What coffee machine to buy $1k-$3k in 2024?
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- If you're ready to up the espresso machine budget somewhere between $1k and $3k then this is the video you've been waiting for.
If last years video of What coffee machine to buy $1-3k is anything to go by, this could be the most popular budget of all!
I also think of all the budgets this might be the hardest because there are just so many great coffee machines that I don't have 1hr to go through everything that I love. So, please, if I've missed any that you feel are super important to feature here, let me know by dropping a comment down below and i'll reevaluate next year and maybe it will be listed!
At the end of the day, these are just my opinions and feedback that I've heard from my customer's experience over the year so it might not be your experience or preference and that's ok. It's always good to have a healthy debate over which coffee machines make your top list within the $1-3k range. I haven't had enough time to use every single machine within this budget range so there are probably better machines that I haven't had the luxury of using yet. This is why I refilm this video each year so that I can update my list.
Below are all the links to the information of the machines listed in this video so feel free to seek the one that you fancy and please let me know which one you decide on and how you found it because it's always great to get other people's feedback and opinions. Each person's experience is unique!
Stay tuned for the next video in the series: What coffee machine to buy in 2024 from $3k-6k
Lelit Anna
www.lelit.com/coffee-machines/
Rancilio Silvia
www.ranciliogroup.com/rancili...
ECM Casa V
www.ecm.de/en/products/detail...
ECM Classika PID
www.ecm.de/en/products/detail...
ECM Puristika
www.ecm.de/en/products/detail...
Breville Dual Boiler
www.breville.com/au/en/produc...
Profitec Pro 400
www.profitec-espresso.com/en/...
Profitec GO
www.profitec-espresso.com/en/...
Wega MiniNova Retro
wega.net.au/wega/coffee-machi...
Quick Mill Pippa (Nera -black with timber)
www.quickmill.it/en/products/...
Profitec Pro 300
www.profitec-espresso.com/en/...
Rancilio Silvia Pro X
www.ranciliogroup.com/rancili...
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Thanks, great video. Really helped me picking my next machine
Thanks Ryde, Happy New Year for 2024.
Thanks so much for the thanks! 🙌🤗 Happy New year to you too @georgcantor8859 wishing you all the best for the year ahead! ❤️
Thanks! Appreciate all the content and information. Also really like that you reply to the comments. Your passion for coffee is very clear. And you are a super-person for not knocking over your coffee mug while filming 😅
Thanks so much!! ❤️❤️ I've had a few years training to hold my cup from spilling. 🤣 Are there any things you'd like to see in my videos? Any areas that you'd like to see me film? If I can, I'll try to do it! 🙏🙌 Thanks again for your support!
I own a Profitec Pro 400 and i love it. Get a lot of use out of it and the fact that it has a slimmer profile for my kitchen is great
Fantastic Review. Really helpful. Cheers guvna.
Very nice video with tons of information
Excellent vid
Really enjoy your videos, helpful and entertaining. I have had my Profitec GO for a year and have found no downside. This is the Subaru of coffee machines, value for money and pick a color you like because you will have it a long time!
Thanks! 🙏
Can you do a review on the Izzo Vivi Flat, I've just bought one so I'd like your option
Great video. Thanks! I've been using a Breville Dual Boiler for 8 years and love it. It's my 2nd with the original being replaced under extended warranty. I have it paired with a Turin DF64 Gen 2 grinder and together they make sensational espresso. I've been looking at the Ascaso Steel Duo PID V2 for my next machine which comes in at just under A$3k. Do you have any thoughts on Ascaso and that particular machine? Thanks!
Thanks! I love the look of the Ascaso and I've had them in my previous years top lists, however they keep letting me down with their quality. In the early 2000s there were lots that were breaking but then they supposedly addressed those issues but I'm still getting complaints from customers. Beautiful looking machines and they are good, but just make sure you load up on extended warranty and get a good supplier so if anything goes wrong they can help. 👌
Wrecking my head for a while trying to find a machine to upgrade to from my Dedica and now i think I've found it. Profitec Go looks like the perfect answer for me, thanks for the video.
I have trodden the Dedica path, twice. I envy your fun of beginning your journey... just go 58mm and you're gonna have a good time!
Bezzara Aria with flow control is what I will be getting this year, fingers crossed 🤞
Hi Ryde,
Great vid, I am totally torn. The BDB makes absolute sense & I would get one in a heartbeat but my wife doesn’t drink coffee & is not up for such a big machine in the kitchen. So with the community behind the Silva it’s the real stand out for me as a 2nd hand machine. Thanks for your thoughts/review
Yeh it's a great machine so just enjoy the learning curve and you'll master it in no time! 👌
Nice video. I currently have a Breville Oracle and the service light has just turned on after nearly two years. It’s essentially useless at the moment. Thinking I might hand it in under product care warranty and get something else. What’s your recommendation around that 2.5k mark (aud)? Thanks
videos that are essentially a list would benefit greatly from chapter markers. Particularly if there are certain machines you are interested in.
Yeh, I do select auto chapters but it doesn't seem to work. It just takes a lot of time and effort to do it manually 😅
Interested what you think of the Ascaso steel duo. I rarely see people bring it up in this range. I have one and am very happy with its style and functionality.
Yes, I think it appeared in my video series last year. I do like it a lot but I fear the company is producing a lot of lemons and not supporting post purchase enough which is why I left it off this year. If I get better reports throughout the year, I'll reassess it for next time.
Great video. I'll be retiring my Via Venezia this year and replacing it with the Profitec Go and the eureka mignon specialita grinder.
Did you get the grinder? I have that model and love it, but if you have not purchased yet then I recommend you get one of the cheaper, simpler models and some scales. I've found I never use the timer display thing because I measure my beans per shot; I'd never leave a lot of beans going stale in the hopper. So if like me you want single shots then I forget the name but they have 2 models with factory bellows (I got mine custom made for the Specialita) and no timer/display, so you save money, get the bellows and have less to go wrong. Win!
@@bigglyguy8429 The single doser version is more expensive than the Silenzio (the cheapest of the line).... and even more expensive than the Specialita. By a lot, actually. At least here in Europe you can get the Silenzio for around 350 EUR, the Specialita for 400 and the single doser for 600 ...
Picked up a Linea Micra!
Wow didn't know Breville bought Lelit. The Bianca is in my opinion one of the best looking single group machines out there, almost as sleek as the Slayer.
As for the Profitec Pro 400 I would still argue PID is still a must if you are spending serious money. I get the Pro 500 is over $3000 but I wouldn't recommend anything at that price that requires temp surfing.
Yeh that was a very silent acquisition. I agree with the Bianca, it's the best looking one at that price point. Interestingly, I used the Gaggia Evo a lot the other month and I was surprised at how stable the temp was compared to previous versions. I only had to purge the group head to bring the temp down a fraction. Sure you don't get the same level of control but it was acceptable temp surfing. Certainly not as bad as the old days.
Have been agonising for ages and haven't let myself by anything for months, but I bit the bullet and got a Breville dual boiler yesterday for the sale price ($999). Would love a higher end machine but I can't justify it when I'm a newbie and I have a bit of a habit of letting new routines and hobbies fade. I'll go a bit lower and easier on the machine while I'm learning, and put more money into a really good high end grinder instead, which I wouldn't have considered until I started watching your vids! If I'm still brewing this time next year, upgrade here we come! Thank you for your channel, it's made the decisions easier.
Thanks! The dual boiler is an excellent machine so you won't be disappointed and since you're upgrading it in a year or two you won't suffer the pain of it dying. 🙌
Its gonna take a while to grow out of the breville/sage dual boiler
Have seen people doing the slayer mod and just...keeping it. Other than steam power and "italian flair", the more expensive models don't offer a lot more. Especially for home use
Went with a Breville Oracle years ago - worst mistake I’ve ever made. Sent it back 3x for service… they replaced it w/ a ‘new’ one. Second unit has already been back for service once and now sits in my garage broken. Hope your experience is better than mine! Stay far away from Oracle!
@@Guy9052m so far so good, having no problems. I'll upgrade it at the end of the year regardless; I splurged on the grinder and that + really good quality beans is making the biggest impact. I've got Bellissimo down the road from me in Brisbane... Zero complaints.
BDB is pretty high end (maybe not as high end appearing) and a well loved machine by espresso enthusiasts. The grinder is the most important part. I run a really good grinder (Eureka silenzio) with my cheap Breville duo temp pro and I pull amazing shots
Great video as always Ryde!
I'm looking to replace my Lelit Anita with something better, my budget is around $2k. Would you suggest the purchase of a used La Cimbali M21 Junior (tanked)? I found one in very good conditions for $1200. That would allow me to also invest in a good grinder an stay within my budget.
Yes the Cimbali is a good enough machine but are there others that you can find second hand? I really prefer some of the other manufacturers like Profitec or ECM etc, but Cimbali is solid enough, I had one for a few years but I just found them a bit chunky.
Still, investing in the grinder is great idea. I highly recommend the Timemore sculptor 78s 🙌
@@Rydecoffeecoach Thank you for the reply Ryde.
I did look at brands like Profitec, ECM, Rocket, etc.. but they are way over $2k.
This Cimbali is a workhorse and if properly looked after, will last a lifetime. I also have a friend that used to be a specialised Cimbali technician and told me that we can do some mods to make it even better.
Lastly, if I get it and find out that it's not as good as I thought, I can resell it for the same price.
Feel free to throw a couple of alternative options if you think they are better built or perform better than this M21 junior.
Thank you.
Getting such a decent shot from a Delonghi Dedica (around USD 100) with modified milk wand & open basket paired with a Baratza Encore finding it tough to justify upgrading. Small profile. Really like that it is quick to warm up. Great in the mornings when no patience waiting for a coffee. Can also switch to milk foam function for few seconds before shot to increase temp. Would like to have commercial sized basket.
Using my modded ec230 and cannot agree more on that) However, I've managed to file the original 51mm portafilter so that 54mm dalla corte IMS basket fits it perfectly with 54.5mm tamper. No chance to put 58mm into it though)) Yes, the shower is still narrow, but if use a puck screen, makes no difference IMHO
Cheers!
Wow, taken it to another level. What weight of shots do you put through it? Puck screens are great. Struggled prior to the Encore grinder as pump did not seem to cope with higher volumes like 18 grams. Now with better grinder no problems at all. Average shot now using around 16 grams, feel easier and cleaner to manage. @@simonshandrinov9079
You have to buy a the Breville/Sage dual boiler used. Found one for 500eur
Ppl that bought one are prbly enthusiasts, because for the same money, most ppl would be an oracle or barista touch
They usually have replaced pumps and upgraded lines at that point
Just one thing about the Casa V recommendation: on all ECM machines I’ve seen, you can’t set the OPV screw lower than 8 bars at the pump. Screw just won’t turn far enough.
I don’t own one so I could be wrong but I don’t think you’ll be able to do 3 bar shots.
Thats concerning, I mean 3 bar shots are not a concern but if it cant get lower than 8 bars, for the beans I like to drink I almost never go over 6 bar.
Yeh that's not good if that's true. Thanks for letting me know!
Interested in thoughts on NS OscarII? 58mm portafilter, preinfusion, programmable shots, powerful steam while pulling shots and OPV. Under 1500 in Oz and made in Italy
Yeh if it's under $1500aud that's a very good price. I'm not a huge fan of NS having worked on their machines in the past but on commercial versions. But at that price it is much better, and it does have really great thermal stability.
@@Rydecoffeecoach Have you seen the Oscar Mood? PID version of Oscar plus other stuff. My wife had a cafe and used my Oscar for half a day when her machine died 🤣
I'd give the Silvia Pro X 10/10, if you don't mind the industrial look (I love it). I've had 2 Brevilles, both broke, and 2 Delonghis, both broke. Finally got the Silvia Pro it it just blows away the competition. PID? Built in. In tests it's spot-on accurate. Regular, reliable ideal 9 bar pressure? Yep, and tests again show they're spot on. Cafe-level steam power? Yep. Twin boiler? Yep. Small footprint? Yep. Built like a tank? Yep. It was only missing 3 things to be the perfect machine - no pressure gauge and no pre-fusion. And no fancy chrome beauty, but I realized in the real world I'd soon get tired of polishing off fingerprints, so I consider the matt stainless steel to be a big bonus actually. Then they came out with the Pro X, with pressure gauge and pre-infusion. It's literally the perfect machine, perfect temp water at the perfect pressure in a square box that just gets out of the way and lets you experiment with the beans and the grind, instead of messing with the machine. I like my Pro so much I'm hoping it will break, so I can buy the Pro X... but I suspect I'll be waiting another 30 years or so...
Lol. That's the problem with these great machines, you'll never get the excuse to buy a new one because the one you have still works perfectly! 🤣
Great recommendations. Its true that the profitec pro 300 and rancilio silvia pro x are top values in this range. Very impressive specs for the price.
Lelit Elisabeth has more advanced features, especially the steam boiler pressure-driven preinfusion
@@OYeahan Silvia Pro X has pre-fusion and you don't want pressure for that, as the point is to moisten the beans before the pressure. The Silvia is also faster to heat up from cold, has stronger steam power and doesn't need polishing every day :P But really at this price point they're all great machines! Apart from the Breville. Had a Bambino die on me, got the twin boiler, that died too. I'll never bug that brand again.
@@bigglyguy8429 BDB also died on me, got a refund instead of repair, decided to upgrade and bought Lelit Bianca (same owner lol). Hope it'll be much more solid and serviceable
@@bigglyguy8429 as for preinfusion, don't know how Silvia's works, but to moisten the beans you need something to push the water at a specific rate, and the only way to move water is using pressure :D. There is little pressure in the grouphead during that moistening as there is almost no backpressure from the puck, but actually you want to moisten the puck pretty quickly, as too long a flow will give more time for initial channeling and preinfusion will have opposite effect than the intended one
@@OYeahan I have the older Silvia twin boiler with no prefusion, and in fairness the accuracy of the temp and pressure (exactly 93C at 9bar, every time) means I can experiment with the grind. As such I just don't need pre-infusion, as I can tweak to perfection... But I'm tempted to buy the newer one... FOMO is real lol
what do you think about BZ13/Crema?
Any reason why you didn't mention the Lelit Mara X? It seems a lot of people really like it, and it's under 2k
Yeh I just forgot to mention it at the time of filming when I was naming the other Lelit 🤦 but yes, it's an excellent machine and beautiful in the white with timber accents. 👌
Your fahrenheit vs centigrade temperatures don't track at all.
Am I the only one constantly worried that he’s gonna knock that coffee cup over with his hand gestures?!
When you work at a tight coffee bar, you kinda gain a superpower called spatial awareness
😅 yes
🤣 don't watch the old videos where I used to hold the cup filled with coffee and make huge gestures. You'll have an anxiety attack! 😅
Yes. You’ve been drinking to much coffee.
Not to worry… the man is a pro.
I used to have the Breville Dual Boiler but it was constantly breaking down and having bought it in Australia and now living in UK the Sage dealers were told by Sage not to service it. So personally would rather have a real espresso machine like Bezzera as the price is not good in comparison.
Your temperature profile of the Profitec is inaccurate, I keep mine at the 202F setting, added a thermometer to gauge temp so you can let off some additional heat if it is too high before pulling a shot. Great machine but am having thermostat tripping issues with mine, working to resolve. Replacing the heating element did not do it think it is more the electronic thermostat, TBD. Had the Rancilio Silvia for 15 years, never had one issue, more gadgets, more failures.
What about The Bezzera machines? Are goods? Thanks for the video.
Yep Bezzera are also great machines too. I think I included some models in my other videos. 👌
Hi there Ryan! I've been enjoying your videos, but I've noticed the audio levels are pretty high and sometimes you can hear some distortion when you are speaking. It might be helpful to look into lowering the overall volume output or use audio normalization during editing. This process balances the sound so it's more consistent and easier on the ears. Keep up the great work and looking forward to your next video with hopefully more balanced audio! 😊👍
Thanks so much for the feedback. I'll lower my recording levels on my mic next time and hopefully that fixes it. 🙌👌
@@Rydecoffeecoach Cool. I think that and the music in the beginning will need to be adjusted as well. Best of luck with your channel! Cheers! 🤘🏼✌🏼
I have a Eureka mignon manuale grinder but I’m looking to upgrade. I really wanted a timed grinder which helped save the hassle of using the scale every time. Any suggestions for next grinder to get that keeps the same quantity of grind?
Why do you want to upgrade? What features are you looking for? The Eureka range is huge so you can possibly find something like the Magnifico or Specialita or XL does what you need.
Otherwise another dosing grinder is the Fiorenzato All ground or F4 electronic are good too.
If you want an amazing grinder and have the budget, I love the Bentwood vertical 63! 👌
Hope this helps.
@@Rydecoffeecoach I have a Specialita and I love it. Timed grind with a screen.
My breville dual boiler makes epic coffee however it has just broken after 2.5 years! Need a new machine! What do I get??
Well, Didn't I just give you enough options 😅? If you want something similar to the Dual boiler I would look at the Profitecs, they are great and you wont have them break every 2 years. 🙌
14:56 248-262f is 92-97c. 248f is screaming hot, btw. If it's under pressure it's possible but still that is crazy hot
Yep that's correct. Definitely hot!
@@Rydecoffeecoach yes but the math doesn't math. 92 to 97 c is like 196 to 205 +/- not 248 to 262
I bought my Rancilio Silvia in 2003. Over the years, new boiler, new OPV. but otherwise still going strong. Just use good quality filtered water and it will go for ever. Nearly.
Great video I’m European who lives in USA so coffee is important for me ..thank you for including prices here as well I lean towards lelit Elizabeth (cause of aesthetics and size,not to deep )but I love a good cappuccino hear and there ,I use to be a barista myself so Which one of those has strongest steam if not close to pro for great creamy micro foam ? And what grinder you pair them with.Thanks
I forgot one more machine that I ended up including in the next video ($3-6k) and that's: Lelit Bianca. It's the most beautiful of the Lelit range (and Bianca too). You'll get endless steam.
As for a grinder, I'd go with a Eureka Mignon (just find the features you desire the most as they have a grinder for literally every budget!). Or if you have the budget, I've been loving the Timemore Sculptor 78s and I highly recommend them. 👌🙌
I appreciate you .Your reply gives me lots of confidence..cause I was thinking eureka grinder and I was between Bianca ,Profitech drive ,synchronica ,La spazziale Vivaldi ,and the beautiful Bezzera duo.
I’ll check your other videos thx
Ah yes, well then: the Synchronika is best build quality, with Profitec almost as good but more features generally.
But I'm asking the wrong questions, sorry. I should be asking you, How many espressos are you making per day? (Include if you're having double or single shot coffees)
What coffees are you mostly making (eg: lattes, long blacks, etc)
What's most important to you in terms of aesthetics, build quality, consistency, ease of use, budget, etc)
Let's start there.
No problem ,you are right
Your questions are very accurate.
My average routine is Two double espressos in the morning .
Two cappuccinos in the afternoon.Excluding gatherings
Aesthetically I prefer Elizabeth compact design and not too deep or bulky (with the exception of the steam knob) ..But I prefer rotary pump and a solid built for better longevity and less rattling noises..besides Elizabeth ,the rest of them are the same category and very similar looks .
I liked Synchronica but I noticed some negative feedback about its steam power and as you mentioned less features
So it narrows between Bianca and “Drive”.(unless there is something else)
I think they have same features..the question is :Which is more quiet solid, reliable of the two?(if it’s a noticeable difference) if the package comes in the smaller possible size even better.
As for the grinder
I liked the eureka Oro but I prefer the anatomy of The timemore sculptor you suggested..If its grinding is better and is as quiet as the eureka ? I’ll definitely purchase it.
Excellent! Thanks for that info.
The Profitec Drive is a bit bigger I believe, I know it's very deep (70cm) and quite wide too so if space is important, then the Bianca is the better bet.
I love the Bianca and it's much nicer aesthetically IMO but Lelit was bought by Breville so I'm worried about the future of that brand as Lelit were always about making high quality products cheaper, Breville is kinda the opposite. Profitec is still Italian/German precision engineering and will always be high quality albeit more expensive.
If I was choosing, I'd get the Drive a custom paint job and go with it.
The grinder level of noise is an interesting topic. I haven't ever worried about noise cos they are all noisy! 🤣 But lately a lot of people have been asking me so I might need to do a test of grinder noise across a bunch. the Timemore isn't super quiet but I don't find it loud either but at low RPM I notice it squeal. But if quiet is what you want, the La Pavoni Cilindro was noticeably quieter to my ears.
You missed the lelit Mara X. brilliant little machine.
You're right! I included it in the next video I did ($3-6k) because I did forget it and that was bad! 😅
I am looking at buying a coffee machine,
I am kinda new getting in to the whole barista coffee world.
I was just looking at the Breville dual boiler just because all the features it has for the price and the convenience.
But I can only find it for around 1499 aud ,
Is it still worth it or should I go for something else.
Thanks
Can you buy it with the grinder for that price? If not keep holding out for a deal as they usually sell together around $1500aud
Another machine that I would possibly wait for is the Turin Legato which should be out in a few months 🤞 it could be a really good entry level machine for around $800aud.
But yeh for ease of use, the Breville dual boiler will be great. 👌
@@Rydecoffeecoach thanks for the quick reply I can get it for $1650 aud with the grinder.
I was looking at the Quick mill pippa and the ECM Casa V which are around the same price as the Breville
@@olivercook4491 both are good machines but don't have all the same features that the Breville does however will last a lot longer and I think the matte black and timber accents on the Quick Mill Pippa look so good. Just make sure you get a grinder as that's more important than the machine anyway.
The Breville will be an easier machine to learn on, but just take as best care you can of it in order to get as many years out of it.
For me, I would buy the Pippa in black and timber, a matching black Eureka Silenzia grinder. But, you need to be prepared to put in the time to hone your craft and learn how to get the best out of your coffee.
So my question to you would be: If you bought the Breville and in
Rocket apartmento?
I own a ECM Synchronika. I love it. But I dislike using it more and more.
Problem is: If you work from home and want a coffee, you cannot switch this behemoth off, since it takes around 30 minutes to be at the correct temperature.
When I bought it, it was for one Cappuccino in the morning and a few Espressi in the afternoon, maybe a few runs on weekend afternoons. But in general it was on fro twice a day, 40 minutes in the morning 1.5 hours in the evening.
Now I am working from home 80% of the time and it is running from morning till evening. The coffee I drink over the day is much better than what I get at the office of course, but it eats power like nothing. Easily 6-7 kWh per day. I can run my entire house on 7 kWh per day without the machine. And a kWh costs 40 ct. I really do not like the costs and I also have to admit: My ecological conscience also screems a bit.
I will probably "downgrade" to a Profitec Pro 300. With its fast heat up PID it can be turned on, make an Espresso within 5 minutes or a Cappuccio within 7, use 0.15 kWh for this and then be turned of again. Even if you do this 10 times a day, it will be less than a quarter of power compared tot he Synchronika on stand-by.
Great advice! Yes this is an issue I hadn't considered for stay at home office workers. The majority of people previously used them one in the morning - maybe once in the arvo. But certainly I see your needs for a quick heat up time. 👌
Is the La Pavini Botticelli Evolution good machine?
It is a good machine, but it's a little pricey in Australia ($2999AUD) and just the EVO without a PID seems a bit much when the Profitec or Lelit gives you a lot more. The Dual boiler with flow control Bottecelli is much better but also costs an extra $1k AUD. If the price is a lot cheaper where you are, this would make it a much more attractive machine.
@@Rydecoffeecoach Thanks, Im asked because the Lelit and the Profitec is our of stock, and i have to get a good machine
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I don’t understand why people always say the Breville/Sage machines aren’t built to last. My Barista Express is used every day and just coming up to its tenth anniversary. Just because the design looks different doesn’t mean the internals are worse quality.
It's not so much the design, it's the way they build the internals. The biggest issue with these machines are the small parts such as the O-rings which disintegrate over time and don't cost much to replace but are so tightly packed in with no care to how the maintenance would look, so the expensive part is the labour of actually pulling it apart and putting it back.
It's great to hear you've gotten 10 years out of it but that's the anomaly. In most cases, tiny powder fine coffee dust eventually makes its way into the machine and what happens when you add heat, moisture, metal and electrics and coffee dust together? Nothing good, that's for sure.
@@Rydecoffeecoach that's fair. I do my own servicing and it is a bit fiddly to work on.
Oh if you can do your own servicing and understand the electrics then these machines awesome. 🙌
I want to add something for the Lelit machines. There is a really downside in those machines if you do milky drinks. The knob it's very poorly designed, you have to be very gentle with them. There is a teflon mechanism to stop the knob. I did broke my "old" machine (Victoria) 3-4 times because the knob was so fragile, that it will broke right away. I got a refund for that reason and after a year I did buy Lelit Bianca V3. But the espresso with the Victoria, was very good. It's a good machine for espresso and will not let you down.
@@GriuGriu64 There is a teflon pin to block the turns of the knob. On Victoria you had to tighten well but not strong, otherwise it broke or began to lose water. I had tried in every way not to break it, but it was impossible given the many cappuccini haha
Thank you :) With the black friday was "cheap" (still crying in my shower where nobody can hear me) to buy from a retailer here in France. But if you drink a lot of coffee like we do, is worthy :) the espresso is amazing. I feel that only the kinu m47 keeps me behind a little bit.
@@GriuGriu64 10 doubles and it keep up? Amazing! I pull 4 cap and around 8 coffee a day. I don't play for the moment with pressure profile because I use dark roasted coffee. But tomorrow I will try some fresh light roast I hope to do well haha. For the Bianca I did get the refund of the Victoria (a 1/3 of the price of the Bianca with black friday discount), did put money in the piggy bank and after 15 months of commercial dark roast with the aeropress, I did had the money (many many sacrifice by the way I am not rich). Happy new year, one day you will have a Bianca don't worry :)
Do you need to be as gentle with the Bianca V3 knobs, as you had to be with the Victoria? Thanks
@@jamesd8458 You don’t have the same problem, because the knob is built as well as many other e61 machines. I haven’t had any problems since I got it. And the difference in cup, it’s considerably better than the Victoria. If you have any more questions, I’ll be happy to answer them.
I like the shape size depth and aesthetic of Elizabeth ..but I m looking for strong steam for pro creamy microfoam I use to be a barista so I’m particular ..
Where I can get the dual boiler for $1200? The price I can see is over 2000bks
It commonly goes on sale for 1000 (without the grinder) I got mine from jbhifi
Yeh, RRP is $2k I think but can get with grinder for $1500 or usually on its own for $1200
Yes nice one! They are awesome machines 🙌👌
No mention of Lelit Mara X?
😅 everyone keeps saying this. I did name a bunch of Lelit machines and for whatever reason the Mara X stuff got missed. It's because Lelit just have so many models and their all good but I thought the Mara X was in my next bracket of pricing so I apologise, I'll cover it in a future video.
Any views on the profitec go?
It's in there, it might be slightly glossed over but I did say good things about it! 🙌👌
Profitec Go review is at 23 min mark roughly. I have had mine for 7 months and it has been consistent in performance. Not flashy, it has everything you need. I like the top loading water tank as my station is compact and I don’t have to move grinder etc. to fill, Solenoid so pucks are dry, large drip tray, built in timer and easy to use PID.
The only things lacking are a float for the drip tray & a slight glass for water level, but at 2.8 liters I don’t refill often. I treat the water and keep it clean, I expect this to be my last machine.
@@user-ge9uz9nn6jdid you mean 23 or another time?
These prices seem pretty crazy for the lack of features, when compared to the Turin Lagato that has PID, pressure gauge, etc all for 500 bucks. Pretty wild.
Yeh, the Turin is cheap and has some good features but is largely untested for longevity and reliability/consistency.
The machines in this range are renowned Italian quality manufacturing (Turin is Chinese) with decades of proof. You can't compare them. Is a car a chassis with a steering wheel, 4 doors and 4 tyres? Yes, but then why is a BMW not the same price as a Great Wall car?
Way too many machines and still I can’t get that sweet balance in my grinding/brewing time settings. So I think I’ll throw away everything and I’ll buy a Rivelia. Brad Pitt will be left inside the box, of course.
Interesting. I do get the ease of use factor, but getting your coffee recipe right isn't too hard and with a bit of practice you'll far exceed the flavours of the De'Longhi.
its weird you're clearly australian, using australia as a reference, and all your dollar amounts are in USD, i get the appeal to everyone factor, but its confusing
Yeh, I might end up making a separate video for both US and AUS, but at the moment only 8% of Aussies watch my videos as opposed to 35% USA. Also, we're used to having to convert USD to AUD so its easier.
14:55. What?
Too much information very hard for beginner to choose. If you are not beginner - you dont need to watch this video. I think suggestions should narrow down to 4 choices. Machine which are not very expansive, machine which makes best espresso from all not expansive machines, machine which is simple enough to use and build quality - most stainless steel parts not cheep plastic or aluminum. So far nobody can separate huge amount of different machines to this small group of 3-4 machines for non professionals users.
ECM Synchronika
Go Decent or pledge for Meticulous.
In other words, buy Breville. 😅
What? I didn't say that! 😅. Oh unless you mean because Breville bought Lelit. Yeh I guess I did say that 🤣🤣
@@Rydecoffeecoach I was kidding. Since you hate Breville
😅 phew! Got me good.
Eck puristika. No more No less. Espresso only. No steam wand. Just espresso.
tv not radio bud, if i wanted to just hear you yapping i would not be on youtube