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- I separated my day 1 video with Bean into two parts to see what the general public would do in my situation with Bean, to get a better grasp of where everyone is at in their knowledge of day one with a new bird. It really took me by surprise with what was said, and so I wanted to offer some insight into WHY I made certain choices I did, in the hopes that it would help people better understand my thought process.
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Bean like “just pet me”
I'm impressed by how comfortable the Grey is around you so soon after his arrival.
@@grandmasmalibu Indeed. I've learned more here than in all the other channels combined.
Me too. I'm so happy for both of them. ❤❤
No that was a day ago.
He's doing so well!!! The result shows you did the right thing, I think that's the best evidence.
Yes maybe include some of this “after” footage along with the “before” scared-on-day-one footage. Provides reassurance and people might not freak out so badly.
@@emm1756 its incredible how many 'people' are professional bird trainers with their own successful business' all the while eating popcorn and and drinking soda watching and critiquing Jamie's videos. 🤭🤷🏼♂️
@Apophis Rock what does that even mean?
@Apophis Rock uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no
@@biggitybaked7017 my thoughts exactly 🙏
I'm glad you took the time to explain the reasoning so everyone can learn from it, instead of just leaving it or acting defensive and pissed that people don't know why you decided to do those things haha
It's a good practice, and much appreciated.
You’re so incredible. I would have never thought about old things that brought him comfort would deter from acclimating and desensitizing in his new surroundings. Definitely learned something. Thanks for the new perspective. As always, I appreciate your experience and wisdom. ❤️
I did a similar thing with my bird when I first brought her home. Granted, she was already bonded to me and still a baby, but she was showing signs of wanting to interact within a few hours. I wasn't going to leave her in the cage for a few days to "settle in" just because that's what other people said to do. She has proven to me just how adaptable she is; she switched from a seed diet to a chop/pellet diet in literally one day and loves exploring anything new. I'm not going to baby her into needing to time to adjust.
i think that is bird dependent. when i took my 17 year old grey home, she would have removed my hand before she allowed me to touch her. but i also don't think jamie-lee chose wrongly here with bean based off of his distinct personality and the fact that she knows how to read his body language. my grey was incredibly isolated and extremely phobic to EVERYTHING. she came from an environment where she did not know what toys were, what perches were, and hadn't been touched by a person in 10-ish years.
Haha you are lucky I had to wait 3 or 4 months to get my cockatiel to want to get out of his cage now its the 4th month I have him I let him out yesterday for the first time he still doesn't let me pet him but we are getting there
very very well said
@@essi4133 theecockatoo i adopted is eastimated to be 50, and aggressive / unhandlable.. i walked u p to the bird, offered my arm and it hoped up and then groomed itself... some birds hate woman due to previous shit but they recognize faces so over time you can get ove this sort of problem but learning hwo to read the body language was the key thing , he noticed the bird WANTED to have interactin, then so be it, with yoursituation u noticed it would rip ur hand off, so its a diff situation buuut you both are reading your birds and thats the point right?
@@itsleaaxyears later, how are things with your cockatiel? i am currently fostering some very stubborn rescue birds, learning everything i can!
I've never had a pet bird. I have worked with horses who have been mishandled, and when you need to reset how they respond you need to be as different as possible from the previous people. If you can keep from reminding the animal of the other people or environment they get curious, they momentarily forget to act on the bad habits as they try to figure you out. That's when you can teach them something.
If the horses aren't mishandled, would you give them space/ some familiarity? genuinely curious here
Interesting perspective from the larger end of the pray animal spectrum.
Our dad was known in town to rehabilitate horses that were considered impossible to handle, most of these were going to slaughter houses (this was back in the 70's). He told us that the only method that worked for him was what you call "breaking" the horse, he would sit on top of it and make it run as fast as it could while it would try and get him off, he did this until the horse would eventually feel tired and stop running. His horses were so tame that they jumped over the fence like dogs as soon as they would hear him in the morning just to be near him. I am aware it sounds terrible but back then it saved them from ending up in a sausage...
Igmajin koharu, if the horse is nervous and your environment is very different from the old one, you can give it a day or so to settle in. With horses that trust people and are properly trained it's not usually a very big issue.
The biggest thing is introducing the new horse to the other livestock. It's best to let horses meet by putting them in separate pens that are near each other rather then putting them in the same pen right away.
@@aza5984 yeah, nowadays ppl hate that method. In my opinion thats not whipping the horse or nun.. its just riding him out🤷🏻♀️
And he got that kind of bond so thats amazing either way :)
🦜All I can say is that I watched those videos yesterday, and I thought you showed real empathy and guidance 👌🏻. I saw some of the comments, too. I think everyone had good intentions, but need to understand that there is a reason someone such as yourself is the one people looked to for expert opinions. I think explaining your choices today, is also great. You’re using this as another teaching tool. Hopefully this will provide additional insight to your viewers. I love your videos, and appreciate the love you show the birds, and YET remember that you’re the leader, not follower. I’m sure the birds appreciate knowing they can lean on you for support. ❤️❤️❤️
Omg For real. I get the good intentions behind those comments (I have not finished this video but I just HAD to say something about them haters) but holy moley, I am pretty sure she knows what she’s doing. I myself thought why didn’t she use the cheese or spongebob to help but watching this and seeing the interactions he has with her now? Obviously what she did worked. And why she did it that way makes even more sense. I never would have thought of that as an option. Totally just learned some animal psych 101 information. But yeah. 10000% agree with you. She knows what she’s doing. Their interaction now shows that it worked.
Patricia Gondeck Absolutely. That’s why I mentioned that I don’t think there was any malice in people’s comments. I think the comments helped, more than anything. I imagine it helped her understand that the viewers don’t automatically understand her reasons, but want to. It gave us the chance to hear her thought process, and comprehensive knowledge. 👍🏻
@@Diana-mc8zk iTs tHoSE dAmN hATeRs
I like how he is just sitting on your knee with one foot!! He seems so calm now!♥️
I love how you handled this :) That you are able to explain your own actions in an educational way so people can potentially use this to learn as well. Plus.. all birds are an individual. Just like people. Its never one size fits all.
Bean is adorable by the way. I look forward to watching his journey.
He wouldn’t get adopted if Spongebob had to be played
Lol so true
Nah.. once you get birds you’ll soon learn that you much prefer it belting out spongebob and 90 dB instead of screaming.. heh.
Ngl that would make me want to adopt him more
Omg yes!! 😂😂😂
Love this video, Jamie! I love the discussion on desensitization, as well as diet!
Hi Mikey😁
I was one of those that suggested SpongeBob and I realize now that it was because I was uncomfortable and I wanted to feel better. I also realized that I didn’t know better than the person, who trains and deals with birds FOR A LIVING, what was best for him. I’m always looking for the ways that I’m wrong so that I can learn what the right way is. I got what I was looking for. Thank you!!
Thanks for your honesty and vulnerability Lori 😊 I found it a hard watch too. This explanation from Jamie was really helpful.
"...it was because I was uncomfortable and I wanted to feel better."
WOW! That's an astute and remarkably self-aware revelation. ♡♡♡
It makes wonder how many of my own opinions, judgements, reactions come from the same place. Thank you for sharing!
I love this and feel the same way. Always room for growth for me and that is ok!! What’s bad about learning new things and growing and sharing information and ideas? Some people get caught up on being right and not growth. Good on ya! Keep it up
They have a video / podcast about projecting our own emotions into the birds. I definitely do this - I project my own anxiety onto my birds.
Tbh but people need to still realize she's human and can make mistakes
The lady Bean came from said you couldn't touch him. Yet he put his head down, asking to be touched. This is a good example of not taking what people say as fact.
Agreed. Also sad that she had him from an egg and they didn't have that kind of relationship 😟
Everybody thinks they are birds experts because they watched youtubes videos so they think they know better. I think you did a great job, you knew exactly what you were doing, you managed differents cases of birds over decades, some more intense than the others, you developped knowledge and experience over the years.
People will literally go to trained expert without any training and think that they know better if they don't like the outcome of the situation. Don't listen to these people. People will be offended no matter what. Keep doing what you do and i would really love to see more updates of your birds and training. Hope you have a nice day!
Many people don’t know any better. So treat them like idiots cuz they don’t know? Be kind
People do this with dogs, too. Many times I’ve explained the root of a dog’s behavior and how to fix it, and the person doesn’t want to hear it because it doesn’t “seem” right or the solution is inconvenient for their lifestyle. To the other commenter: the whole point of this is that people DON’T know better, and when someone who DOES know better tried to help them, they just insist they are right. So I actually do think it’s fair to say that’s idiotic behavior.
doesn’t mean she’s the only bird expert here.
It is sad, she uses people for views and they believe she is an expert just because she proclaims it.
@@luneyia7644 unless you can prove that you're a bird trainer and have more experience, I'm going to trust the youtuber more than randoms
These guys are the experts who use the most gentle, patient methods with their birds. I never saw anything in either video that bothered me in the slightest. I trust Jamie totally.
The funniest part of this is that people don't work that way either. Familiarity is a crutch.
Amen! I was upset at the other comments. I am so happy you uploaded this! I wish you could stitch this to the other video so right after it plays this!
I can't believe how many people are pushing his old lifestyle when he needs a new one! I remember years and years ago reading that new places are your #1 opportunity to change behavior, if he goes to a new home and is allowed to hide away and be comfortable, he's never going to put himself out there.
I think you did exactly the right thing with Bean, he's been coddled his whole life and this is the best way for him to become confident in himself. Great work Jamie!!
Such a calm little puff ball, hard to believe it's the same bird.
I'm not a bird owner but it's similiar with dogs too, you don't want to bring the negative behaviour into a new environment. Jamie did the right thing because if you continued with the negative behaviour 1) it's hard to break 2) it confuses the bird when you obviously "oked" the behaviour then suddenly change it to not being "ok" with it. You have to be consistent.
Bottom line Jamie knows what she's doing - she has a strategy
JIX NIX they are simply saying that breaking negative behaviors in birds is similar to the way they break behaviors in dogs. Obviously a bird is not a dog, but needing to break bad habits is similar.
@@JixNull just stop. As someone that owns and have lots of experience with both, the OP is correct. Stop trying to argue and shut up. You dont know what you are talking about
@@JixNull The OP was just mentioning that basic corrections to negative behaviors has the same undertone no matter the animal... Where owners would not want their pet to maintain an undesirable behavior from their prior home; hence, correcting it immediately or preventing the behavior from triggering until a better bond or a relationship had been formed to maintain the behavior.
Short version of what she is saying...
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💕 yes.
Then why is her speech pressure and defensive? I know she knows she did not do her best. She will not own up because she is an "expert".
@@Ashley-el4wf her speech is not pressured.
Ashley she’s the expert not u, honey
Ashley Oh so apparently your the expert and are more experienced than her now. Ummm no honey you aren’t.
We only see 15-20 minutes out of a full day. You (the viewers) can't assume you know everything that happened in that amount of time. You don't lock up a new dog for the first day or two, so why should you with a bird or any other pet. You start first thing teaching it the ways of your household. If Jamie did it wrong, do you think their business would have lasted as long as it has? Nope. And look at Bean. He looks real traumatized sitting on her knee wanting scratches and with 1 leg up. That bird is content. Great job Jamie. 💖💖
margiemargie5 I totally agree
EXACTLY.
Exactly. As a new bird owner I read a lot online about leaving your bird in its cage for the first week. Thankfully the breeder and your channel told me not to do that. Take the bird out when it wants to come out, socialise and bond with them. Show them early how to 'hangout' with me. I'm glad I trusted my instinct and had you to educate me rather listening to outdated information.
I agree people shouldn't jump to conclusions and I know that Jamie has a ton of experience and I trusted she knew what was best all along.
But I understand why people were worried, for a lot of species of animals stress can cause a ton of health problems very quickly and leaving them alone after moving and making all changes slowly is whats best for them
katie hodgson I agree. I support that overcoming fear is necessary, yes, but it can go the other way just as easily if you miss some behaviour. It depends a lot on the individual. Bean could have been vindictive and ended up with a trauma from fear or stress into plucking (though in this case I doubt this would happen as she seems highly attentive to interpreting its body language
Happy Fourth! I want more Bean
People really think they know more than someone who has been working with birds for years 😂
Plus every bird owner has their way of doing things. I have had people say the same thing to me about food. Why don't you go slow? I say just because someone has eaten McDonald's everyday does NOT mean that they will get that at my house 😉
I don’t think that was it. Jamie asked the question. That is why so many answered what she should do.
People really think someone can't make mistakes just bc they worked on something for long
No one is above critique no matter how long or how well they have been executing a function, and different professionals will have different lines of work. I do know of bird trainers who would not agree to this method but here is the thing, as long as it works and the bird is happy that really is all that matters.
Zukio was it a mistake though? I would’ve done the same thing but like Aza said every trainer has their way of doing things and some don’t agree with this method 🤷🏻♂️
Hi Jamieleigh I am so glad you made this video! I too was shocked when I read some of the comments - I was thinking you have never seen this lady work with birds who have issues! I am so very glad Bean has come to you because I know he now has the very best chance at a happy life going forward. Thank you for the amazing work you do and the love you show birds and people 🥰 I hope your friend does well in her battle with cancer. I know she can take comfort that you will do well by Bean!!
My African grey came from a home where she was kept in a small cage and only fed sunflower seeds. She also got stressed and plucked off all her feathers. My dad felt sorry for it so he brought it home. We got her a new cage and changed her diet. At first she would just fly on us and clime on our heads. Sometimes she would bite us and get angry. She also hated people touching her. Slowly she got used to us and until recently ( had her for about 2 years) she lets us touch her. She’s also not scared and aggressive anymore and dances with all of us and interacts with us. We trained her so that she knows that she can come out of her cage whenever during the day and at night she goes in saying “bedtime” SO CUTE😩She also grew all her feathers back. 😊 we just started getting her used to showering as she loves bathing in her water bowl, but we would rather her do it somewhere bigger. Although it’s a long process that requires patience.
Thats so great! I am so glad that your father decided to take her home!
Good job lucky bird!
Shahara Ajmir Thanks so much for giving this dear bird a good home and a loving owner.
I think you did an amazing job with Bean 🖤 you are the main person aside from my vet who I trust with bird advice. Love your channel and it helped so much in working with my rescue birds especially Pikachu 🤘🏻🖤
You did great, Jamie. For an African Grey he made a lot of progress in a very short time. I expected to take weeks to get where he is now. Your methods work, and you guys are they only ones I would take advice from.
And also I have a one-eyed grey who has a bit of trust issues since he cant see on one side. watching you bee so patient has helped me be open and adjust and bond with him on a newer level. thank you soo much!
I could barely watch when he looked so scared in his carrier. Its so nice seeing him come this far so quick. Ur a bird angel.
He’s doing so great since the first video. I’m glad you decided to do a video on this transition and explain your methods. I wish more viewers would’ve understood instead of randomly judging.
Who would have thought that someone with years of experience knows better than youtube comments
People with years of experience writing comments on CZcams..... just cuz she works with many birds doesn’t mean she cant make mistakes...
@@nike12000haha And yet she didn't. c:
Awesome video! The 'getting through fear' section reminds me of when I went to volunteer at a bird rescue and the birds had been afraid of me so they lashed out when I had to clean their cage but I had given them space after I realized their fear so I had to get them through it and soon they adjusted to me and kept their claws to them self.
This video helped me sooo much!! I am terrified of offending my birds to the point where I am not pushing them to overcome being uncomfortable. When they show fear I tend to overcompensate in the reverse direction, to my own detriment. I am then not getting the results I want or helping to guide my birds to better behaviors. Thank you, Jamie!!
Such a fantastic video! All bird owners or ppl who want to adopt a bird should watch this!
Bean looks so relaxed & happy. Of course he was stressed out day one, Duh! You get put in a carrier, everything familiar is taken away & you're given to a new human you have never seen before. I think if that happened to us we'd be scared too. Imagine waking up one morning, your "mom" comes In & puts you in a box. You don't have any of your things you use to comfort yourself. Your "mom" takes you to another human's home that you don't know & leaves you there. These new humans don't know you & you don't know them. They sound different, smell different & look different. You are scared & confused. Where am I? Why am I here? Where's my "mom"? This new human uses different words, different tones & voice inflections, nothing makes sense. Then the new human opens the carrier & wants you to come out. The new human offers you something you've never seen before but tells you a) it's food & b) good for you. What? Next the new human opens the carrier up completely & there's no longer any place to hide. I could go on with the narrative but I think everyone gets the idea. I would have been more surprised if Bean didn't respond that way. It sounds like he has been passed around a lot. Poor baby. You are doing great & don't let anyone discourage you. Go Bean! You will have a new forever home soon & it won't be scarey. You will be Bean the Brave!
Pamela Mills I liked your comment if most people were able to put themselves in the birds place rehoming would go smoother. I have always been owned by a bird after my severe macaw died suddenly I became depressed. I am an older lady and live alone with no family. A few months later feeling better I adopted a 40 year old Moluccan cockatoo. It took me 3 years for him to be comfortable. He was in a breeding facility and was never taught to step up he was just toweled and held by his neck. With kindness and consistency he now steps up, allows to to preen him and will take limited cuddles. He will always have limitations as do I. I love him so much and hope I have made his life better. Thanks for listening to me stay well
Love how people think they’re avian doctors in the comments 😳😑
You’re awesome, Jamie. Thanks for teaching
lol right?! They were very serious- you need to do this, do that now! I bet half those comments are coming from people who will end up needing consults down the line lol 😂
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Katey Henderson birdtricks arn’t avian doctors either, they are trainers...
Katey Henderson Jennifer P
These communities have a tendency to cyber bully people who express dissenting views. It is not legal not ethical not professional and not OK.
This should be a safe place for people to express their opinions without being bullied into submission.
Most people here are Womach fans but not everyone’s going to like what they do, there’s no minimum level of Womach experience required to express an opinion, and people with opinions that differ from the group or the maker of the video deserve to be heard without being shamed or bullied.
God Bless us all.🙏🏼🕊
#NoCyberBullies #SpeakOut #CivilDiscourse
blue jay ummm your bird shouldn’t tell you when they want the cage cleaned you should know when to clean the cage yourself if your bird has to remind you than...yikes😬😬
I love applying anything I learn from your channel to my job at the shelter, we don't always get birds, but when we do, I know where to start by checking in on your channel. Thank you for continuing to educate and spread such great information on your platform! Looking forward to more bean videos! 💛🦜🐦🐥🕊
I really appreciate how you’ve explained the first day.
When I took in my CAG rescue in 2002, I didn't know anything about "his" ("he" laid an egg in January) past life other than "he" lived in the corner of a dog kennel and was named Jacob. I even changed her name because I wanted to make everything different in her new home. The only reminder of her past life was a bell in her cage. It was one of only 2 things hanging in her cage when I got her and the other toy was almost completely destroyed. She immediately took to her new life and bonded with me very quickly. Unlike Bean, she was basically feral and resisted any training as soon as she realized she was being trained. Thank you for confirming that I wasn't completely off the mark because everybody told me i was wrong. But I was sure her new home needed to be a fresh start.
Same actually. I adopted a breeder Congo who had a disability from a sanctuary. I have had him for about a year now and I wish this video came out earlier because like you, everyone said that I was doing EVERYTHING wrong, and sadly I caved in and listened to them. I was told " you're rushing him to be out of the cage! He needs to come out on his own and bribe with a treat" even though he is not treat responsive and he was feral but at that time he was more responsive. Now, because I listened to these people, I have a parrot that flops around every time I ask him to step up to be part of the family, he now growls and screeches. Now I have an extremely insecure parrot. And I am trying to correct this behavior which is harder now than it would have been for us to bond much earlier. I wish this video was out sooner :(.
People just need to understand - Jamie knows what she is doing :) :) :) Happy 4th of July!
I love your day 1 videos and it's worked with the new birds that I have gotten in the past
I particularly loved listening today to you break down your methods of bird training. I was amazed that you use the same methods as I do when caring for a new client in their home. I have to admit you amazed me with your common sense approach to this.
I so wish there was a way I could take each new person into my home and desensitize them and help them feel free to find themselves in the new space.
I really enjoy your candid evaluations and your heart responses. I also get a kick out of your drive to feed them well to the point of developing a feeding system that is nourishing and appealing. I particularly love the Birdy Bread.
Wishing you a productive and insight-filled Independence Day!
Your psychological aspect of bird training is awesome I find it extremely interesting and has helped me with my GCC☺️😌
I made my birds some carrots brocolli cauliflower chard and peas, chopped up real tiny, it was there first time having it.. they ate it like they had been eating it the whole time. I think it will be easy to get them away from seeds/nuts like the breeder/previous owner was feeding.
I love that you took the time to address the comments from your day one videos. I saw a lot of them and when this video started I was interested to see what it was that guided the decisions on that day and your explanations are brilliant and very insightful. You are thoughtful, direct and your message really translated well. Thanks for taking the time to share your work and reasoning so that we can grow and hopefully implement some of those concepts in our own journeys. Awesome job! Thanks again 😀
You’ve been training birds for so long and you have more knowledge than those people who were commenting!
What the hell about the food?!? his food he was on was crap any knowledgeable bird owner would know that. And you want change for that bird. So glad you’re nicely putting these people in their places with you’re experience and let me say it again knowledge...
Me: Soo bored nothing to watch
*Refreshes youtube page*
CZcams: BirdTricks uploaded 1 min ago
Me: Finally thank you god 😂
I'm glad you addressed these comments! I was so shocked when I saw all of these people critiquing your handling of Bean - you clearly know what is best for Bean!
I think you are 100% spot on with everything you said. Keep up the good work. God Bless.
I would completely recommend your courses ive done a few watching your day one with each bird is explained in them your work is amazing at all times there's always an excellent reason for all you do you set the bird up for success at all times and do as we all should making sure that if the bird out lives us finding a new home for our birds will be easier on both the bird and new owner im so grateful that I will start my bird off on that exact course and will definitely remember not to speak in absolutes was one of the first things I learnt along with good diet and socialisation xx
Thought for the day; When you respectfully criticise an expert then one of you is going to learn something. It's a net positive.
In this case Jamie learned another common bird mistake and we all learned don't do that. The world is better now that people have respectfully criticised and Jamie has respectfully responded.
If only the entire internet worked this way *sigh*
12:40 Capri with the notepad is so adorable
Wow, I am SO glad you made this video! I have had a "day 1" with 5 different birds now, and I've finally come to the same place you have. The first bird I brought home, I was shocked and angry when I found out that the things the previous owner said she liked, she actually had no response to or showed aggressive behavior towards! But as I got new birds, I learned that humans are flawed at understanding their birds perfectly, so its always better to start fresh and see what the bird can handle before reverting to anything told to you by the previous owner.
This is such a great video with such great information! I especially like that you took the information from what others would do in the situation, to better address what needs to be discussed!
I just love him. He actually seems like a really good bird!
Vet tech student here. You still should've given him time to adjust in a quiet and safe environment. Overcoming fear =/= uncontrolled exposure therapy. Desensitization doesn't happen in an hour. Happy to see he's comfortable now, but ultimately you caused way more stress than was necessary, which can cause a myriad of health issues in and of itself.
Couldn't agree more. "She even contradicts herself in this video, saying you have to be patient until they're ready"-- or you could just take the top of the carrier off and force them to come out 🙄
Thank you for update .. great job explaning why .. love bean
Thank you for responding to this! I felt like those comments were eager to correct your technique, but you’ve talked about this in so many of your training videos!
notice how she didn't mention how she talked total shit about the bird's diet as if her friend weren't dying and possibly watching the video lmao.
In my opinion I think Bean having his wings clipped made him more afraid in general. I think if a bird knows they can escape and fly away at any point it gives the bird confidence to try new situations once they trust their human companion.
This really opened my eyes. Thank you!
Super interesting topic, thank you for explaining your way of approaching the training of fearful birds. I feel it mirrors a lot of things I would do in training my mammals. I was really curious to see this reply to all those comments on that previous video as well. Really informative! ❤️
That was such a radically different bird from day 1 I honestly thought it was Cressi until she said it was Bean. Sorry you guys and gals but Jaimie is the boss at this stuff. This one and Morgan kinda prove it to me.
When you guys need a break from bird and magic shows do comedy. 0:43 the intro scroll into this full screen comment snip had me almost crying while laugh.
SpongeBob! Soooo many people said that in the comments.
I hope people learn that treating animals like animals (communicating clearly in a way THEY understand) is much nicer to them than "being nice" and "giving him what he likes" when you're trying to promote new behaviors.
I do think you have a lot of new viewers that don't know what you, Dave, and Capri do with birds or your background and experience.
"Treating animals like animals" thaaaank you! Not even to your kids should be that extremely sensitive. If you want to help any animal, including humans, you need to encourage overcoming their fairs, not pleasing them because you can't handle looking them afraid.
I watched the whole video of Beans first day part A and B.. and I can say he looks so much better physically. His little chest is wider, his neck too. His feathers are so healthy looking now ❤️. He’s so much more relaxed ! The worse thing we can do for our animals is baby them when they are scared. They need to know and feel the person handling them is confident to keep them safe. There’s definitely time for snuggles and loving but not in a time of fear ! Your doing an amazing job with these birds. If you can have them free flight, loving life outside and always coming back to you. You definitely know what your doing 😊
I love how gentle, calm , and consistent you are with Bean. It's remarkable to me how quickly he responded. Thank you for taking him, and others in, working so hard to give them the opportunity to be the best they can be and able to be adopted. It takes a special person to take in and work with animals so they can be adopted.
your day 1 - 7 videos always astound me, people dont need to question your methods rather grab a notepad and pay attention... "knowledge" gets spread like wildfire especially the ones you listed at the start. Dave and YOU are the leading bird trainers, not the commentors
I figured you knew what you were doing, what do I know? I was just curious what his eyes pinning meant. Is his eyes pinning good or bad?
It can be both! Eye pinning while eating is good, eye pinning while speaking is heightened and could go either way. Eye pinning while staring directly at you, approaching quickly with feathers flared up is very, very bad.
I think it's kind of like a dog wagging it's tail. It means arousal or excitement. Which can also be "excited to bite" type thing. Context is everything.
@@locolobos0035 you mean nipping not biting
@@alipetuniashow A dog that wants to bite, really bite, can be excited about it. Check out military and police dogs. Their tails are wagging and they're excited to grab and hold. Not nip.
Excellent video. Appreciate the clarity. 💗
You're amazing! You're just helping me so much with my birds!❤ I love you and your personality💕💕
Short term, versus long term
Your philosophy on birds, is brilliant genius, heart centered , empathy and compassion. So refreshing. Bright Blessings 🕊
Hi I don't normally comment, but I love your channel and appreciate your knowledge.♥️
Good convo! You are such a great teacher. Thanks for taking the time to explain, it really helps. ❤️
She’s like Yoda when it comes to birds stop trying to prove a master that she’s wrong. lol
Right?Dave and Jamie are the best in the world right now and I'm not joking every single serious parrot person knows about them and uses a lot of their methods they have shared
8:25 Say it with me ... an-thro-po-mor-phi-zing. 😉
Much love and respect. Your thought process and strategy were very interesting and listen too. Just to see how he is behaving now is evidence of what at pro you are and how committed are to your craft.
I plan on getting a parrot or two later on in life. I thank you for helping me and others learn how to take good care of birds!
Pfft I wanted to explode when people were telling you what to do I was like ;-; she knowS what's sHEs dOinG :")
nabilamhamdy - Right!? It’s not exactly the first time she’s ever switched a diet, etc..
The Internet is Full of "EXPeRts"..)
We know she knows what she is doing. she requested our input if you watch the first part of when the bird was dropped off. So we gave our input.
Jamie explained the situation really well here. I’m so glad that they continue to share their experiences. It takes a lot of guts to put yourself out there online.
nabilamhamdy Please please be kind to your peers in this community. Jaimeleigh asked for people’s ideas.
Even if she hadn’t isn’t this a bird community where we can come together and talk about ideas, share opinions, learn, be open, FEEL SAFE without being shamed or bullied or embarrassed? I would really like to find a place like that.
I can’t believe that you’ve had to explain yourself! I understood what and why you were doing things, and I don’t have birds!! One of your videos randomly popped up on my feed, and now I am obsessed with watching more! Keep up the good work
Whatever you are doing and feel what is correct, continue doing. You obviously know what is best based on your experience and your results work and speak volumes. Keep up the amazing work, I think this is personally inspiring, I'm loving the methods you are using you really know your birds, what they want, what they don't want, and reading their body language accurately.
YES!! You know what you’re doing all the way :) You do an amazing job! We took your advice about 1st days when we got Kauwaii- no old food, no staying in the cage... and it was a night and day difference from when we got our other birds! We are STILL struggling to get our others on a better diet, while Kauwaii was just like “welp, it is what it is, let me dig in!” Same with the cage- she came with a cage for a budgie- owner said she prefers the small cage. We immediately gave her a cage 4x the size and she loves it. Total flip of her environment all at once on dat one.... Now she pretty much owns the house :) you’re amazing, you definitely know your stuff, THANK YOU!! We’ve learned SO MUCH from you!!
She was very smart to solicit our predictions, imo. Because now we get this in depth video where she explains her rationale.
(Jamie, try to remember that folks who disagreed w what you did on day 1 were much more likely to comment than folks who agreed w you. You're doing a much better job than you sometimes think you are.)
Marie Parsons 100% agreed.
That Jamie had to take time out of her day to assure people who think they know better is so sad. Two major issues with this:
1. Until any of us viewers are flying across the country and even internationally to train people’s birds, guess what, we don’t get to tell them how to do their jobs. We need to show respect.
2. Before being all bad behind the keyboard, maybe ask “hey Jamie, can you share why you made this decision?” I’m going to bet 10/10 times, her decision making is backed by reason, logic, experience, etc. She’s proven over and over that she knows what she’s doing and that also needs to be respected.
Jamie, thank you for allowing us into your world of bird training. Please do not let a few key board commandos deter you from sharing! Nonetheless thank you for explaining your decision making with Bean, I’m sorry that you had to.
Well put! I’ve only just discovered this channel but it’s super obvious to me this woman is super professional and knows what she’s doing ❤️
1. Disagree with your points and think that professionals should not be above critique due to their quality of professionals.
2. People always have opinions this type of platform has a comment section for a reason, she did the right thing by educating her viewers and explaining her points, this leads to education of her viewers
3. Professionals make mistakes too, there is nothing wrong about sharing an opinion it's all about doing it politely
I appreciate her taking the time to educate the viewers and the possibility of viewers voicing their opinion.
Brittany Rose, well said lass, well said indeed. Never a truer word spoken.
Aza, I do agree with you and all your points, especially about doing it politely. Not everyone did that.
For every comment that “told” Jamie what to do, if it was posed as a true seeking to understand inquiry before interjecting their opinion, it would have been a different story. It could have led to a more open, safe, and productive conversation.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and advocating being polite on the internet!
You do realise that she asked for people's opinions as to what she should do next. That request was towards the end of the part one video.
I love this channel & love how educated Jamie is with birds. I also absolutely love how your little girl is also so educated about birds I love love love it ! ♥️
I'm really glad you made this video. Watching the past videos with Bean and seeing those comments, I was really curious why you weren't doing some of the things people were talking about. However, I knew you were a very experienced bird owner, so I trusted that you had reasons behind your actions. This video really put things into context for me. Although I assumed you had good reasons, I had never really thought specifically about how those things from a previous home could really negatively affect a bird in a new one. This was an awesome video that really helped me do some analysis on my own thought process when it comes to dealing with birds. Thank you so much!!
The reason I felt you should have done something familiar is because of empathy, like you would do with a child. Also as a mother I want to comfort especially when I he was shaking, I just wanted him to feel better, as I am sure the other people did. I didn’t comment on those videos, but I thought you should know people were not pissed at you but more upset that Bean was upset. I am so glad you explained yourself though, it was good to know why you did what you did. But PLEASE PLEASE keep original mama in mind. As she is going through a super difficult time in her like.
I got a new bird a few days ago and it makes sense to not give it the same food.
Who knows if it was abused? Idk.
My bird was so I wanted to switch everything.
I don’t do what the comments say- i do what BirdTricks says because she helps me learn and do stuff.
Oh shut up
I honestly dont know why on earth other people would tell you how to handle a bird...??? 🤔🙄
Because she specifically asked them to in the video.
I always learn so much from you!! Many eye opening moments
I absolutely love how beautifully you explain what types of training you do. I've been following for a long time and coming back to watch these videos is always worth it. I apply your type of training to my birds and we always wind up with a super strong bond. I recently lost my little budgie and am looking to adopt an African Grey. I've had many types of birds before and now that I'm a lot older, I feel finally ready for my next step in bird keeping. Love your videos Jamie! You are truly amazing.
I am amazed by how many believe she knows what is best for every bird just because she says she does. Self-proclaimed expert at best and trashes every other bird owner and lover on the regular. It is insulting to listen to.
I trust her a hell of a lot more than radom idiots on youtube, show me a more qualified bird expert who disagrees with everything she did, and maybe I'll think you have a leg to stand on
Thanks for explaining this to us we can definitely see the positive outcome of your methods in your bird's behavior !!! I am so impressed with how well bean has settled he looks really calm and happy with you. Clearly your day one with this bird has really had a great impact on bean. Thanks for making this video you really know what you are doing.
Amazing info! I’m just coming across your channel and these videos of Bean. I was one of those people thinking “just turn on spongebob for the little baby!!” But this makes SO MUCH SENSE! Thank you for educating us ❤️
Look at how calm and resting on one foot! So amazing! You have so much wisdom! Goodness. He is doing so amazing. I think the most touching part on his first day was when he let you pet him for the first time! I cried! Thanks for changing our stinkin’ thinkin’.
exzactly!!! this is a new beginning for bean! dont take any of the negitivity to heart. you know whats best for bean. 😍🥰 you teach us so much 😍🥰
He is so absolutely handsome and so gentle. You’re amazing and I love your love for these birds!
Wow!! He went from shaky and randomly flying around, to a very calm, trusting bird! You did great, and I can see how happy this bird is and will be from now on! 🙌
Oh my goodness! I enjoyed this video so so much 💕 What AMAZING information. This is exactly the method I use for all my rescues. I do it MY way & listen to the bird as to what it wants 💕 We always hit it off this way on day one 💕
FANTASTIC information 💕😘💕