AI will change the Gun Industry | Ian McCollum, Jari Laine, Jordan Flayer [PT Podcast #7]
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2023
- This was just after we successfully finished Lynx Brutality. Everyone was already a bit tipsy before lunch so we sat down and decided to record a podcast.
What is it about?
About everything - a bit of match debrief, some discussions about AI and just having casual talk in general.
This was a blast and we can't wait to do it again soon!
The guests are:
Jari Laine, the CEO of @varusteleka and all-around badass
Ian McCollum, gun jesus from @ForgottenWeapons
and Jordan Flayer, sidekick extraordinaire
Finally someone (Ziga) addressing the elephant in the room: that the current "AI" is in fact just a virtual "intelligence". We are far from real machine self-learning and self-awareness.
I see Gun Jesus I click.
I don't want my rifle or pistol to be sentient enough to tell me how my marksmanship sucks.
AI would design a M-25 40 watt plasma rifle that fits perfectly into a skeletonized metal hand
Good luck Zigas babby.
What is this? Žiga Rogan?
I think what Ziga is missing about 6.5 Creedmoor is that it burns barrels out way too fast. That’s fine for competition and snipers, but not infantry rifles or machine guns. And I say this as a big fan of 6.5 Creedmoor.
Ziga you will not become the next Sarah Connor. It will take us at least an other 50 years. Greetings chatgtp.
Yes ai will change the gun industry. Especially when the ai builds silver skeletons to shoot the guns at us.
The High Council gathers, what a wonderous day!
I'm an American doing a semester abroad in the Czech Republic and it's been a mindblowing experience. I've never been to Europe before and have been amazed by how different everything is. I plan to try to make a trip to Slovenia at some point.
I feel like Ian's point about that we have already tested so many systems and we are left with the ones that worked the best is a bit premature on what has been tested. It kind of draws the conclusion that what has been tested is essentailly every possibility and we are left with a handful of sytems that work well.
Žiga and I must have similar reading interests. I have read that 45,000-50,000 rounds of US ammunition were expended to achieve one enemy killed in WWII and Vietnam. GWOT numbers are supposedly around 250,000.
I think non-intelligent AI shouldn't be underestimated for firearms development:
One thing that no one brings up when talking about development of new firearm technology is powder. The current smokeless powder was a huge technological leap adding more range and cleaner burns so that semi automatic guns could be designed. If we could invent some new propellent that is more powerful and efficient than current powder it would change the design of firearms completely.
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About the issue of armor penetration, there was a level 5 plate tested that was far superior to XSAPI and the only round that penetrated it was 7.92 Mauser SMKH Tungsten rounds (Buffman test on Adept Collosus). Where 300 win mag swiss PAP and 7.62 NATO SLAP failed and custom 300 win mag. The difference is the WW2 tungsten rounds had a much larger core so mass makes a difference for armor penetration as well as velocity. The Germans duting WW2 used a powder (used in SMKH and v-rounds) that could bring greater power without the pressure being too high. The US and Soviet Union were never able to replicate it. The SMKH shoots a 194 grain bullet at 2900 fps which is wicked hot. 6.8 catridges would have too small of a core to do as much damage to level 5 as 8mm. Lethality over range is why 6.5 cartridges were considered insufficient in the World Wars. Honestly a modernized 8mm (even 8mm ball is supersonic past 1000m) or something similar would be way better than a 6.8 for destroying armor at longer ranges. A heavier cartridge would be better for machine guns and DMRs and then most infantry should stick with a lighter cartridge for closer range. Most soldiers won't even shoot at an enemy past 200m. An MG will be far more effective at range than even 10 riflemen.
I work pretty deep in AI/machine learning (happy to prove this) and as a gun guy I actually have some interesting ideas about this. Would be super interested to hear Ian's takes on this especially.
Seeing this podcast is giving me flashbacks already. It was a pleasure to compete with you guys at Lynx Brutality 2023. Can wait to see you guys again.
The pint i think you are missing is that the large military application of the new cartridge doesn't aid the function of a platoon on fire and movement because the less quantity of ammo. There are situations where you have to spend ammo even if you have a precise optic for suppression and "stress". And the other and that at 400-600m, even with the optic, is not easy to spot people that try to hide and shoot at you.