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Hope you enjoyed the video and learned something new about kerning! If you have any questions be sure to leave them below and I'll do my best to answer them :)
If there is a website that tells you what the ideal kerning should be, how come there is no automated process for this in Adobe CC?
@@copypaste3526 A good start would be to change the kerning setting from Metric to Optical in the type panel. I have it set to optical on startup.
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Thanks Will. When you have angleed letters like A Y V etc and/or fancy fonts. What parts of the letters should one be looking to kern off?
Another trick you can use to help you while you kern is to rotate the word 180 degrees so that itâs upside down. This helps your brain to treat each character as an object, focus less on reading them, and increase your ability to identify spacing issues between them.
Had a hard time understanding why you'd fill a joke with water.
Haha, wasn't just me then!
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HAHAHA i got it too
He said Jug of water
Carrots are delicious when cooked in an instapot oh wait, this isnât a cooking channel :) Still kerning is something my brain perceives but doesnât really know about. Nice to learn that when Iâm thinking âwhy do these letters seem a bit offâ there is something real behind it. Happy algorithm accident, me finding this vid.
Glad it's helped :D
Hahaha kudos to you for watching this without being related to the field. đ€đ€đâš
I clicked so fast when I saw the kerning master talking about kerning. LOVE IT.
same tho loll
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Iâve been focusing specifically on my type during my final semesters in school because I recognized it as a weak point. When you kerned Giga correctly it sent shivers down my spine.
I'm a front end dev who's been a dipping toe into the design world. Your videos have really given me a sense of how to approach a project, the common mistakes to avoid, and subtleties like this that can really make the difference in the way a project turns out.
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Oh man! As art director this is a great great video to share with the rest of my team who are not designers but use texts on videos every week.
Thank man! please continue doing great content!
I learned quite a bit about proper kerning having been a graphic designer and sign painter. Awesome stuff!
Never thought bad eyesight was actually helping my design until you asked me to look at Giga. Thanks WillđđŸ
Carrots! Thank you for putting this out; I dabble in design and am 100% self-taught, you're content is the easiest to digest. Please, keep it coming!
Such a great video & it is great to hear your perspective. I find myself naturally going a bit wider with my kerning sometimes so I like to see your narrow balance. I also love carrots đ„
I think you should do a part 2 of this video. Really informative. Thanks for this Will
Glad to see this, so many new graphic designers don't consider type at all. It's too easy to just type and leave it. Maybe some good old, hand drawn text should be brought back for training new designers, it didn't do me any harm about 24 years ago. đ±
Thank you for the video. Your knowledge of kerning is based on your intuition and a rool of thumb. There are at least two very useful practices I use all the time to kern words. The first one is the rule of the middle letter. All you have to do is to split your word into groups of three consecutive letters and then adjust the middle letter in each group.
and the second one is a secret that will remain hidden for the centuries to come
@@thesteaksaignant we were never chosen to know, won't you get it
Carrots! This makes a whole lot of sense and very easy to digest. Im a self taught designer so everything I know is through trial and errors and tons and tons of experience. Thanks a lot for this!
Love this, been trying to find typography tutorials that go super detailed.
Hey Will, I just watched your video on kearning and I dig it! I've never heard of it before but I've been doing it for 40 years. I look forward to learning more and watching my artwork grow. Thank you for the knowledge and I tried the Kerntype game and got a 70, 81 and 100. It's interesting to me how this process gratifies me so much and some folks just think that I'm easily ammused
Carrots. I learned something today. I frequently hear or see designers talking about (criticising) kerning in other's work but never knew there were actual fundamentals to look for - I just thought it was down to opinion and personal preference.
Generally, you kern adjacent curved forms closer to one another (example c and o together) and letterforms with vertical strokes like l, i, j, I, t, etc. further apart. Use the squint test and you can see where the problems lie a bit better.
Carrot! That was most essential basic adjustment in type design and I'm bad at it. Thankyou so much for this. That was really helpful.
This was very helpful for understanding the goals and process of kerning type. I was surprised to see how intuitive/"gut feel"/subjective the process is, although I suppose that makes sense because you are measuring visual balance as perceived by a reader. I'm curious if you could train an AI to do this, even if it just gave you a "score" like the game or a second opinion.
Thanks so much for sharing. I stumbled across your channel recently. I'm a software engineer by trade, but I also have a strong interest in visual design. It's been a great way to level up my game when building user interfaces. It's really cool to see your expertise at work.
I am not typing "carrots." Dammit! You tricked me!
I'm not a typographer, so I'm really happy that my typical method of "push letters around until they look better" is the correct one. đ
Carrots. I always adjusted kerning like this instinctively. Also I've worked with an art director that kerned just like this.
When your video title appeared to me I clicked thinking there was a proper method to calculate the spacing, but it turns out I was doing it the right way all along.
Great video nonetheless, it's a considerable amount of work we do to make type just perfect that is mostly unappreciated.
Ohh Carrots. Watxhing this and knowing a bit about kerning but not actually realising I've been doing just that for a few years now, sort of organically. Thanks for making me actually think about it!
I've been learning so much recently from your videos and logo reviews. Thank you đ.
Thank you so much for this video! Having some hands-on resources is going to help as I make my way through my typography class! đ„đ„đ„
Carrots. I totally love this refresher. One of the most overlooked skill in design :)
Carrots. Love these tips. Great explanations of do's, don'ts and why! Learning lots.
Carrots :3 I can't wait to give that site a go. I've really wanted to improve on my kerning, because I've known its a thing but never really understood it. I started a job a few years ago, and didn't initially go in worrying about typesetting/topography, but over time, between complications with our specialized program (that i hope one day we will move away from honestly) and having to hand-draw in custom lettering (typically from old family headstones), I've really wanted to understand kerning. The person I work with has an eye for it because she's been doing it since before I was born, and even back when they had to use die cut letters by hand. She's great at pinpointing out stuff, but because she was never like specially trained/college trained, she doesn't know like terms and stuff and I'm just an inquisitive person that wants to dive into the "why" of things. I can be very technical and mathematical with spacing on letters but a current project had me rethinking because an A was between a T and i want to say W (but late night brain plus crap memory) when I took a second to step back, printed out what I had done and realized how off the spacing looked and realized my mistake. So, sent me down a rabbit hole. Off to learn more.
Carrots!! A neat trick taught to me by an art director I worked with is to turn the word upside down. Thereâs an interesting science to reading words in that we read the space around the letters and not the letters themselves. So turning the word upside down forces you to examine the space and not the letters. And this shouldnât just be for logos but also larger headlines too, especially where they dominate an ad space. The growing world of reactive creative work for digital/social is killing this level of craft. Thanks for addressing it. Nice vid.
Carrots! Super useful, I absolutely wanted to lean more about kerning. Well-kerned logos and type looks totally different, it's the next level! Thanks Will :D
Thx for the blur tip! Iâm not bad at kerning, but that alone should help raise my game.
If you wanna check your kerning you can also turn your text block upside down, it becomes less about text and more about geometry and spaces between shapes
Great video, thanks for making this.
One method I was taught back in the day to visually check if your kerning is off: is to look at the word upside down. It forces you to look at the negative space more abstractly.
Also, I find certain capital letters at the endings of words (depending on the type style) could sometimes overhang slightly over the next lowercase letter: like T, Y, P and sometimes W.
Great tips!
Carrots. I really enjoyed this lesson about kerning. You broke it down to simple steps. I hope you'll be able to dive deeper into some of these lessons some day. I wouldn't mind watching these lessons broken into parts either. Keep up the good work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I don't know if commenting twice helps with the algorithm but I like how you're asking to comment exactly for that purpose and not faking to want to hear what we think
This topic is really really need to talk about! Thanks mate
The Kern game gets a massive thumbs up from me,,always great to practice properly,,gotta keep your eye in the game... only point you should have made was what your kerning space increment was when shuffling letters around... ;p
Love it. Once I leant this in design school, I get triggered every time I see badly kerned text. It makes such a huge difference. Once you see it - you can't unsee it.
Same here.
Carrots. Nice one, that's helpful stuff. Didn't know the ALT + arrows trick, that's nifty.
Carrots. I am a type designer and it's very difficult at first to adjust the kerning issues. But as you go through the process, the end result is so satisfying.
Again, Well done! I am teaching a typography course and I will direct my students to they channel.
Thank you very much for making it so practical and simple.
Carrots. would love to see more videos on this from such an intelligent mind. would also love to no more about the 'glyphs' programme you was using in this video! and last but not least, thank you for you advice in helping me better my design skills!
Thanks for the tips Will! Great explanation! Iâll have to try out the kerning game. Lol!
Great video. One of the things I always see in my own creative stuff but didnât have the right plan to sort out! Thanks!
Carrots! Absolutely love your videos. It's all the stuff I wish they taught in design school.
You are my hero! Thanks a HUGE CARROT for a âalt+arrowâ shortcut!!!
Alt-arrow - Iâm stealing that! Another tip I picked up is to turn the word upside down. Also (if deadline allows) going back to it after a few hours break (or next day is even better). Sometimes seeing it with fresh eyes (so to speak) you spot things you didnât notice before.đ„đ„đ„
Carrots. Kerning do be a tricky aspect of Typography. Thank you for explaining it more well
Hi Will, thanks for another great video. I'm starting out on my Graphic Design study (at age 55! Too old?) and I find your videos very informative and easy to follow. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching! It's never too late to learn. I hope you find a good home here in the channel :)
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Interesting seeing you doing this video. The other day I think I saw one of your logos with a kerning issue!
Carrots! Great video and very informative! Will certainly be checking out that Kerning game to test myself regularly. Many thanks!
Carrots. Will, enjoyed this video. Kearning seems easy (for a non designer) but can be tricky to really pick up.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Carrots! Thanks for a quality video. There are only a couple of good ones on this topic on CZcams.
Informative... This subject is underrated...
6:16 e goes one step right, then two steps left, then one step right - perfection!
4 years already crossed to know this simple technique.
Carrots, I found this video very helpful sometimes as a new designer I forget how important this lesson is.
Glad it was helpful! :)
Walling looks like Notion, which it's what i use. Good carrots colleague!!
itâs good to revisit the basics from a different perspective. The blur technique is quite interesting and will use it time to time. Thanks bru.
Glad it was helpful!
Trust me, everyone watches your videos to the end. We may skip the square space bit lol but we watch it all. Carrots!
carrots man... great content. I learned a few tricks. Seems I did kern relatively well by myself intuitively, But now I understand the why even better. thank you
Very appealing thumbnail. Props to you!
i really enjoy having your videos on while im working thanks so much for the carrots as well
Carrots! I always wanted to hear you about kerning. So when I saw this video I clicked on the spot. đ
I have been doing design for our family business, Iâve made logos to business cards to shipping inserts to 4x8 signs and all between.. over the past 2 years. Never had trading but picked it up quickly and enjoy it. Letâs say I was designing a little 5.5 x 8.5 and had a few small paragraphs would you go through and kern everything? Or is it more of just logo titles that this applies to? Iâve had to learn pretty fast all these design tools, illustrator photoshop final cut. A bit overwhelming
carrots. thanks for this video. i'm an amateur but i love to dabble, i knew about kerning but this confirmed a lot of things i suspected to be true. great video!
Kerning joke with 5 "ands" in a row. A signwriter was teaching his apprentice to make sure the kerning on the new sign they were making for "Smith & Jones" butchery. When the apprentice finished sign, all the tracking was wrong: SMIT H & JONES! His boss said, "Hey all your gaps are wrong!". "Apart from the word SMITH, the spaces between SMITH and & and & and JONES are not even!". Cheers from this toy deisgner in Australia.
Haha, that's great!
Thanks for your perspective and for the game tip. A good challenge :)
Typeface designer here, Some of your forms look quite top heavy. Like the a, o, and d, and c, take a bit off the top of the curves to make them more subtly bottom-heavy, it is an optical adjustment but works wonders
I honestly didn't know. Thanks Paterson
Yes! Someone else who nerds out about fonts and design.
Thanks mate for all this content, you teach wonderfully.Thanks brav!
Glad you enjoy it!
Isn't there a difference kerning uppercase and lowercase? When there are pieces of the letter like "P/ L / K" do you include the space inside the uppercase letter or start at the vertical?
Just stumbled upon here and the 6yo video of yours paying the kerning game, it was so terreble pretty sure you were faking it,đđ.
Look at you now how you changed and how professional you've become now :)
Thank you for the wonderful advice!!! đ„ đ„ đ„
Hi I wanted to know if kerning is required for script fonts too? What can be done in that case?
Carrots
Great to learn something new - not a designer, but always good to add knowledge as you never know when you need it - cheers
Carrots...love to watch these videos, even it's something I'm already practicing, because it reinforces good practices and reassures my confidence.
đ„đ„đ„đ„ I never was too certain about kerning till now⊠best tutorial ever!
Glad to found this holy grail video! Thanks
How accurate is selecting optical kerning in illustrator? I find that to be pretty accurate
Learned something, and the kerning game is fun to do.
Thank you so much that was very helpful
Carrots does helps me alot, and now I'm editing my fonts kerning
Thank you for this. I learned something I didn't even knew I needed.
You are so welcome!
How much time do you invest into kerning? Do you kern in the whole text or only in headlines?
Carrots. My dad was a signwriter back in the day when that meant drawing boxes to put your letters in and actually painting things on walls. Iâve been fascinated with letters ever since.
Best carrots explanation video!
Carrots! Love it, thanks will!!! đđ»
So good!!!!! Thanks for sharing.
So Alt+arrows ooook! Tnks for the tips!
Thanks, I learned something today :)
Awesome video! Good kerning could be so satisfying. Altough... I hope this was done on purpose, or you need to teach your editor to kern as well lol. The link to the kerning game at 6:30 isn't kerned that well :p
Carrots! Very helpful. Thanks Will đ
Carrots! LOL
Nicely made video about kerning.
You learn something new everyday. Great video! Carrots