JET PLANES, SUPER CARRIERS, WGs WET DREAM - World of Warships
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- čas přidán 22. 02. 2022
- USS United States, it doesn't get more Murican than this I gotta say.
It has 5 sets of planes, from which 3 are kinda special single use.
Special torp and dive bombers are some super fast prop planes but rockets are actual jet planes and super easy to use with 96% fire chance - no joke.
I didn't break any damage records so far, but I usually end up "wasting" few attacks on DDs, just can't help myself, but the speed of these planes is ridiculous.
The only bad aspect of it is that it has literally no armor anywhere so it's 1 CV you can actually kill, and its concealment is horrible.
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Now that we know that T11 is officially cold war era ships
I expect the American Super Battleship to be a 12 barrel Ohio with CIWS and automatic AA rockets.
But that AA will come with 8 flak and 300dps which is not enough to stop 2 strikes. Because it has to be.
wait for the nuclear ammunition
Tier 11 ships are just an excuse for WG to release the Battlecruiser Kirov in the future.
that wouldn't even be able to stop TX carriers, cause reasons.
I frankly expect a italian 20 barrels - from 1936 - on a battleship or cruiser, since WG seems so eager to just put more guns on those things instead of updating their tech.
At 11:55 Witness the most historically accurate landing on an aircraft carrier ever recorded... lmao
Historical accuracy? From WG? But...historical accuracy is hard...
It's mind boggling really, when before the CV rework, the planes actually approached from the rear of the CV before dissapearing into the deck. I mean, they've made it worst somehow.
Dasha Super cv is incoming its gonna be well balanced comrade only found in loot boxes but you can purchase it thru vodka bundle too, art department make it fancy and everyone will love it spreadsheet approve.
Yes, its weakness will be vulnerable citadel 10m below sea level. Also airstrip is at sealevel.
Of course Our Dasha is well balanced.
@@SimonSays- Wow, wargaming really went all in on the weaknesses
I hope WarGaming adds Japanese super carriers into the game because I feel their special squadrons are the MXY-7 Ohka kamikaze planes.
i expect these to kill whoever they hit
Likes Shinano, carrier version of Yamato.
@@Rebellion90s shinano would be it. Or maybe taihou
@@killer19183 I think before the CV rework the IJN tech tree had Taihou at tier 9. I cant remember
If they do that, then I will hear a "Banzai!" each time you go on an attack run XD
Saw a video by another YT who did some digging into the Fighters consumable for the United States. Apparently, if you spec the United States for Air Superiority and you drop a fighter squadron right on top of a tier 10 strike group, the fighter squadron will shoot down almost all of the strike group. Because the fighters have a 3 second "descend from heaven" time and an effective radius of 4.8km when specced for it. The Tier 10 group isn't fast enough to get away before the fighters show up. Combine that with a 5 second reload on the consumable and 25 second loiter time and you can bully the enemy tier 10 carrier. If you're interested in watching this in action look up "Super Carriers Emotional Damage"
Yeah its insane lol. Brings air battles to a whole other level xD
When would supe carrier and tier 10 cv been in the same game?
@@davidb3352 Double CV game.
Thank God for super CV's, is what nobody has or ever will say.
Yeah World of Warplanes was SUCH a success, too.
The new CV kinda sucks anyways. Not much super about it
thank god for super CVs
@@thepittman4g63 still not used to the reworked system :D
Still waiting on WG to figure out Japan had plans for submersible carriers.
Please don't remind them
More than plans - the I400 existed. But if you want silly, they should implement the Surcouf.
Maybe a super-Halland with homing missiles for AA might come as well
And then they'll have 400 dpm...
to be honest, i still find the dmg of a nahkimov to be much more frustrating... dropping skip bombs with at least 1 fire and a ton of dmg on every ship with no cooldown... The spotting of these jets will be the worst thing tho... Spotting the whole map in a heartbeat
Facing these Russian CVs is super toxic and it gets worse the closer you get to them, because the planes always come back in full squadron and they hurt too much. Torps hit hard, bombs hit hard rockets hit hard. The other day I watched a Montana lose 26K of his HP by Nakhimov rockets.. and it was just 90 seconds into the match. Comparatively I'm happiesr to face FDR tbh and happiest to face no CV.
They get a very large initial cooldown period so it's not really that bad
Yeah. Eagle at least feels like an improvement and a proper T10 CV, while United States is pretty much a downgrade from Midway. I'd much rather face United states than any T10/super CV besides Audacious.
Edit: nvm WG overbuffed them. I take my above statement back.
That landing tho! At least they don't just dive into the middle of the carrier deck like they do in Blitz
16:20 "It's just ridiculous": in my opinion this is the "natural evolution" of MMO's if you don't set a final state for the development - just look at WoT or WT.
To generate new cashflow devs bring in new vehicles. In accordance with the inofficial motto of capitalism "faster, higher, further" these need to be more of everything. Bigger guns, more gimmicks, you name it. Do this for a couple of years and you end with silly stuff like this.
Reminds me of whats already happened to war thunder. Was supposed to never go past WW2. Now we have machines from the 80s.
Power creep doesn't even begin to describe it. This is more like a power catapult.
@@erdalguclu We have machines from the 10s dude, I'm pretty sure the PUMA is from like 2012
I've seen some interesting builds where u build into the fighters on these new CVs and u can almost completely lock out the enemy CV.
Flambass, By the end of the war the U.S. Navy was dropping torps from 2500-3000 feet to give the pilots a much better chance to successfully drop and return.
Used the Torpedos 3 Times, and i hit all 3 Runs all Torpedos, has 4 Torpedo Ribbons, AH YES
We need a reprisal of the "Black Clouds" song - actually, a remix
I'm gonna play super CVs just because you can build them into fighters and litteraly grief the other CV.
when Russian get T11 CV it will have Nuclear Torpedoes and SU-25 Frogfoot as the Attack aircraft
and perma regen , WG is so stupid
Last time I was this early, flambass liked WG
Every time I think they have reached the limit of their stupidity, they find new frontiers.
14:46 I legit started singing that song mere seconds before you did. LMAO
I have a feeling that AA cruisers are going to be everywhere now
Super CV's.... Next we get a CV who launches an Arsenal Bird from Ace Combat 7 xD
That Jingles landing tho. 👌
Played them both US is definitely the better CV but can get sniped by Eagles carpet bombers and carpet rockets in the first 8 minutes very easily and can't do anything in return due to Eagles armored deck.
also I recommend going full fighter build in these things, they use Jets as fighters so they arive instantly even with the 50% increased arrival time and will latch on literally instantly.
So you had F4U corsairs, hellcats, F9F panthers (surprised they didnt give you the upgrades cougars instead), and was the twin propeller the F7F tigercat?
11:57 actual spit take lol that was hilarious
My Italian aa will sure gonna love these jet planes. Pray they could shoot anything
The b-25 Mitchell was the biggest plane to take off in ww2 on a Aircraft carrier that dropped bombs
WW2 Airplanes in a 1492 Ship simulation........... awesome !
The thing is that United States is a real ship with a very funny story.
The issue was that at the time the US had a new defence secrary who was a Conveir lawer(at the time it was not considered a conflict of interest). Also a the time US Air force was detached from the army into its own branch. This ment it had to compete for funds with the other branches , they could no longer milk the army for money. Also the Congress reduced the armed forces total budget so 1 of 2 projects had to go. They had to choose between US Navy's United States Supper CV or US Air force Conveir B-36 Peacemaker strategic bomber. Gues which project the Conveir defence secratery chose ... United States begun construction and was cansaled the very next day. They had the offical Ceremony for the construction ,they layed down the keel and the ship was canseled the next day...
To add they also proved that before the construction of the united states that the airforce could refuel in the air and circumnavigate across the globe. Then the navy would have jets that could carry nuclear weapons from a carrier. F-105 thunderchief were the first to destined for that.
11:56 God Tier Landing 😂😂😂
I so want a Star Wars theme for the jet planes X-wings and Tie fighter skins
Go play Star Wars then
"you cant stop the United States ship United States" underated joke
It begins
I play a lot of tier 5 6 ships that are mostly ww1 era, its difficult when up tiered against more modern ship of the 1930's to 1940's and above. I think the game needs splitting to WW1 WW2 and post era levels to make it more fairer?
The game needs a lot of thing. Devs that can read, devs that can open a dictionary and read the definition of balance. Oh double uptiers are fucking stupid
I think the cooldown mechanic should be the standard across all CVs
Imagine they add Shinano as Super Carrier and their aircrafts are not Jet that design as Kamikaze, basically it will be the second bomb and garantee 100% chance to set on fire while at the same time takes 5s longer to take the fire out. And ofcorse due to it is Shinano it will have Yamato’s armor with its citadel while also have the most HP among of all CVs AkA 2K lower than Yamato
So the bomber planes were going 90+ knots on attack runs but the halland was keeping out of range for most of it… I think the speed reading is inaccurate unless they introduced a new NOS boost to ships?
Planes wasn't going in parallel with the horizon.
@@Dyx_DeTcTBa they were still supposedly going 90 knots, compared to a ship that tops out at under half of that (40ish knots) that would suggest that WG sees aerial speeds as being twice as quick even when they’re using the same measurement of speed.
Waiting for german Super Carrier with Me262 :P
Me-262s are terrible for carrier-based aircraft. The landing gear just isn't designed to land on the flight deck.
As much as I hate it, the animation of the jets conducting their rocket strike is amazing to watch.
Can't wait till the PetropaCVlovsk comes out.. with a below water airstrip.
FEAT THE SUPER SOVIET CV, I’d laugh like crazy if they make a Kiev with yak 38s. Balanz comrade
LMAO Trenlass got sank by the dd.
I'm just waiting for missile cruisers at this point :P
Might wanna out super CV fighter build if you haven't. They are actually god tier
Looks like War gaming ready for the trash bin. Did not signed up to play modern invincible CVs. best news is I did not spend a fortune like I did in WOT.
I know Trenlass said they aren't as bad as he was thinking, but my GOD. So when do you think we're going to see Tier XI and XII ships added?
We will joke now but inb4 Kuznetsova "Prototype" Carrier comes into the game with MIG-17s dealing 20k rocket damage
Parking your CV close to an island, gets more planes killed, than using them ,in combat :-D
I guess T12 will have a Covenant Assault Carrier
Super CV’s: Wargaming’s wet dream and the entire player-base’s nightmare.
I wanna see super mvr dev strike an eagle with rocket jets
I didnt know they were adding these, so the first time i saw one in match, i jokingly said, "what the fuck do those have, jets?" and just got a "yes" back, WTF.
Really didn’t want to give this video a thumbs up, but since this is such a meme ship plus Trenlass and you having a funny conversation I did anyway.
Damn WG please nerf Flambas !!
Should Race North Carolina shells across the map
I love wargamings april fools events.
118 k dmg how broken are super CVs ?;)
You can already feel a Kuznetsov's MiG-21 rocket squadron pulling a Nakhimov at 330kt
Just a matter of time...
(yes, i do realize MiG-21s are not carrier-capable, but it's WG so it doesn't matter at all)
Also including a tugboat to pull the Kuznetsov would be perfect 👌
@@vkqtran4721 two if they're Russian tugboats lul
Yeah, for those who haven’t got them yet, US bomber has 3 bombs with 93% chance to cause fire))
Royal Navy should get Buccaneers with Red Beard nukes. Drop in enemy spawn before they can disperse for insta-Kraken or destroy entire team in single hit for new Bananas award. Buccs fly too low to be hit by AA but can be rammed by submarines. Totally realistic and balanced.
omg, dam !those warships stands no chance ...
How can super BBs have more hps than super CVs? Aren't CVs supposed to be more unsinkable?
Good thing about supershits it's now a good time to play your Tier 8 ships.
I wonder why they didn't just go with USS NIMITZ...?
OMG what are the chances you met trenlass XD
pretty high when trenlass was intending to streamsnipe....lol
Im sad that those carriers are at the top tier. It will be fun to play them for shit and giggles, but a pain for me to get into grinding my ass to there. With super ships, I under if we see a Space battleship Yamato as one for IJN tech tree
World of warship blitz landing style :D,
This is just the beginning wait for when american super destroyers get homing torpedoes and tomahawk missiles
Not they just need to AA Sam anti aircraft missile AA ships and we are set. Edit: WOW, your not the only one that saw that landing animation. They arnt even TRYING with that shit.
uhm... official fun limit at t8?
who in the avocado frick decided to add jets! next there gonna add stealth bombers and drones with lasers
Sometimes I'd like to slap every idot upside the head who ever said, "bUt iT's uN aCAde sHOotEr".
These can dodge most flak just with speed. Fdr planes eat halland or petro flack and lose 5 full health planes. I dodge same as everyone else but one flak and boom
What's next USS Forestall and F4 Phantom II's 🤣
what i dont get from WG... if they wanted a WW2 ships game with jets - why not a german CV with Jetplanes? Like ME 262 and Ar 234s?
Because there trying to be loosely realistic. German’s didn’t have carrier’s that were completed.
@@TheSilverwolf1001 WOWs and loosely realisitc? Ooooh thats why the russians and the germans have CVs at all XD And the german Battlecruisers are also real Steel for sure... come on dude. WG left that road ages ago!
@@S2audicoupeS2 i mean.....
you right
Yeah, jsut wait for the Russian CV...
Will probably be able to skip bomb with a nuke xD
I have absolutely zero regret that I left this game
That name though: United States Ship United States.
Can't wait for german Super Carrier with AP rockets that 1pass every Cruiser and super MvR bombs >_>
knowing WG, the german super carrier will get nerfed hard to the point that it gets outclassed by a tier 9 ship
Germany never Intended to have a super carrier. Im pretty sure Graf zeppelin was the Only Carrier Germany Designed and Half built. Correct me if I’m wrong
So WG created the problem ... now we can wait to spend real money for the solution 🤑🤑.
Every "free to play" game ever....
Whoever coined that term, "free to play", was either a fool or a cynical a-hole becasue "free to play" games are the most expensive games on the market. I just play Legends and even there I'm confident it would cost hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars to unlock all the non-tech tree ships, commanders, and content - to experience the full game. A good quarter of the ships are locked behind paywalls. "Premium ships", they say. Some of them, like Hood, which is a historically significant ship they know everyone wants to play, costs like 40 bucks on her own. smh...
f9fs really couldn't they give him f3d of f2h banshee?
Not the first time we had jets in WOWS...
Even though I reached Level X about 3.5 years ago, due to the CV's (and all the fake Russian garbage), I don't play at Level X.
p.s. Now if the surface vessels were to get SSM's, then I might change my mind.
Flambass makes United States so Easy while potatoes complain because it suck (they suck).
03:29 For comparison a P-51 Mustang goes 437 mph, a P-47 Thunderbolt goes 553 mph. I am surprise the jets are slower. I thought the Grumman F9F Panther maximum speed was 503 kts (579 mph, 932 km/h). Why does WG have it so slow?
They gotta balans it
Because the scale of this game is not 1:1, you can already tell boats get to places much faster than they should in this game. 40km traveled in 20 minutes for a 20+ kts bb?
So you can already tell how busted 400kts would be for planes.
@@cleveland2286 yep, you are absolutely correct. Which adds that the WG mechanics is flawed.
I am pretty sure the only reason is limits by the game engine.
That WG does not really care about balance is a well known fact by now.
Thank god we don't have subs at all or carriers beyond the likes of Lexington in Legends although we still have to put up with wall of "skill" torpedo spammers and, even worse, op HE spamming cruisers which are mostly a high teir problem but I don't know why anyone plays high tier anymore. It's the often worst/most boring experience with the least reward.
i whant them to modernize the game so we can play with f-16ns
Trenlass baltantly admitting to streamsniping
Anyone who genuinely thinks playing CV is hard will become first blood with 23% win rate if he plays other class of ships. It can be a good or bad thing depending how you see it. It's a good thing that he can stay alive throughout the match and deal damage even if he's complete potato. But his win rate and damage is going to be at least double than what he deserves with that kind of skill, which is totally unfair for other players who must play well and learn a lot of things to get the same achievement.
At least in Legends, CVs are stupid easy to play but a little more difficult to play well. Most noobs in CVs go for nothing but damage when their role, especially in the early match, is supposed to be almost 100% support, spotting and flushing out destroyers or island campers. I've heard things are different on PC where CVs can rack up ridiculous damage with little to no risk to their ship which is pretty bs. I think that was the same reason everyone hated subs. WG seems really slow to learn from their mistakes sometimes.
Good ,thats what i want to paid for .
not some duke of york that can bought with coal .
Mandatory youtube engagement comment.
After they announced the Super Cvs and other OP ships, I'm done with this game for now. Been playing since 2017 and I make this hard decision to quit Wows.
Well this is truly the end of world of warships
super russian cvs skip ap bombs im calling it or a bomber that only drops 1 tsar bomba no biggie
I think this is EXACTLY what the game has been missing. 😑
Honestly i was dissapointed... this CV doesnt feel Super at all.
What,no Tomcats? ffs smdh
super cv not super
The super CVs made me quit the game.
See you next month :)
Lol thats odd, as trenlass said these are honestly less of an issue to face than some of the t10 cvs. The US is worse than the midway really, and eagle is only slightly better than trash fire that is audacious
Don't even have the common sense to add a REAL supercarrier, which actually existed (and still does). The super carriers look so out of place in WoWS, art department finally made a mistake!