Koio vs Common Projects - (CUT IN HALF) - The Real Difference
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
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Common Projects vs Koio has been a hotly debated topic on almost every style forum and fashion channel. I cut both of them in half to see how each are made and what the real differences are between them.
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I’ve had some questions about what I mean when I say a company sponsored a video so i thought I would clarify.
Companies pay me a set amount for the video that is agreed upon before the video is made.
I don’t get any compensation based on the performance of the video. I also don’t get any form of compensation from the amount of clicks or views or codes used or orders made from the video.
Doing it this way helps keep me as unbiased as possible, though im sure I’m not perfect, as much as I try to be. But the beauty of cutting stuff in half is you can decide for yourself and I can’t hide anything. Also not taking “affiliate money” is the main reason the companies are willing to do discounts for viewers.
Hopefully this clears it up! No one has been rude or accusatory about it, they are mostly just curious. It can be tricky doing sponsored content but I appreciate your support! It makes a huge difference in being able to do these videos. Most people don’t know CZcams is still just my side project, most of my time is spent on the business/product side of Rose Anvil. Thanks again!
If you have any more questions about the sponsorships put them here and I’ll answer them!
@@RoseAnvilhow much is the amount set amount for the video?
Are you provided with any information by the sponsors when they provide the product? Do they see the video before you upload it?
The sponsors occasionally will give me some facts/info about the products but I’m not obligated to talk about anything specifically.
The sponsors do get an early viewing of the video to ensure I didn’t get anything factually wrong. They aren’t involved in the filming or editing process.
You know KOIO had absolute confidence when they sent their shoes to be dissected
well it'd would be less biased to buy KOIO in store instead of having the company sponsor it, as you know they may send something of higher quality than what they sell.
Hoping thats not the case here, I've had my CPs for 3 years and its still 8/10 condition, so im a happy camper nonetheless, don't think ill ever sway away from it, its just too clean of a sihlouette.
@@demolisherOfMoney they suck
and they are still mediocre lmao its honestly pathetic
@@demolisherOfMoney Ye he says he buys the shoes under a friends name every time he's sponsored so as to avoid quality tampering.
@@demolisherOfMoney You think they specifically made a better shoe to send to him??
Oh hell yea this series is going to be on trending for sure.
High fashion brand CEOs be sweating bullets right about now
No need to sweat. People buying sneakers thinking they’re BIFL work boot are misguided anyways
RAAZR no not really as I’d still get cp’s plus we knew from the start we’re paying for the name brand and not so much for the quality. 😅
@@JJ-rr7pc what does BIFL mean
rose anvil single handedly debunking "fashion" influencers
Thank you I was waiting for this
While becoming one himself. How much do you think he got paid for this to promote Koio?
How is he debunking anything? If an instagramer likes/wears the shoes, this doesn't discredit that. Nobody makes you buy anything. All he's doing is making you feel better about not buying them(while making money off of it).
The fact that you can admit your wrongs and you're open to criticism makes you one of my favorite CZcamsrs. Hopefully one day you will be able to make a high end shoe. I'll be there to buy them.
This comment has aged very well.
Hey Weston. I wish you'd go back to completely cutting the shoes in half and THEN going over the details. It was just so satisfying to see that part.
Agreed!
Crown Northamptons would be perfect for this series! They’re advertised as being full grain leather and are handmade. Each pair is made to order
Just leaving a coment here to help to algorithm. This year is going to be big for you, you're growing fast. The other day I was taking to a friend of a friend and we independently knew who you are ( we're both from Bulgaria 😂😂). All I'm trying to say is that your message is traveling the world pretty well and you should keep doing what you do! PS. We totally knew what you mean about the comon projects - they're fine but not at that price point.
I just found his channel out of nowhere from the recommended page !
I love that you're doing a minimalist Saturday series, the Jak shoes is a suggestion to review.
Joey Baseball minimalist in term of design.
Jak shoes suck
946 BIZ I myself own a pair of jak shoes will be nice to watch a review from you
YES ive been wondering about Jak shoes as well as Oliver Cabells
I bought a pair of Jak shoes and returned them for a pair of greats. They seemed noticeably cheaper than Greats. I still haven’t tried Koio but those are on my wishlist
Hey man loved the video. I think I preferred it when you cut the shoe totally in half then dissected it. Think it was abit more satisfying to watch, and allowed you to view the shoe in holistic way. Just a thought. 👍👍👍
Northampton Crowns would be a nice to cut in half sense they’re handmade!
Absolutely! Was thinking the exact same thing. Actually sending them an email right now to do a video with Anvil
Yes! I’ve just DMd them
Hell yes, agreed! Though I'd like to see Church's or Grenson first!
The chrome excel sneakers would be nice to see
I expect those to be the most premium tested, but they are also very expensive.
I have both shoes and the Koio leather definitely feels softer and seems to crease less, at least on my feet.
How is the sizing on the Koio's
@@stringtheoryann I wear 8.5 in Vans, I get 7 in Koio. It is a little snug since they don't have half sizes, but it breaks in and I have no issues now
@@spartanV48 thank you
Would be really interested to see Oliver Cabell
Coming soon!
What about artisan lab
Yo man, just wanna say that your vids are really enjoyable to me. You're one of the few youtubers who just cut straight to the point, and every second is packed with entertaining info. Really love the style, keep it up!
Well done.
I was literally hesitating between the CP and Koio for the past couple of months. Watched a lot of reviews from guys like The Kavalier. This video and the 15% sealed it for me. Just placed my order for Koio. Thanks for doing this bud. Cheers!
There's a sucker born every second
How is it on your heels? I walk 30-40 mins to work and I’m interested but as they are flat soled I wonder about the achilles and also if the back of shoe rubs against the heel
Oliver Cabell has a white leather sneaker!
Does he? Good for him. Though two would be even better.
@@BL-yj2wp Lmao
Oliver Cabell is a brand I assume. So I think Koji is suggesting he compares them. But I guess you all thought you were being hillarious? ...
I've heard about quality control problems with them. The only reason that I would buy their sneaker is to get their GAT sneaker as a cheaper alternative to the Margiela Replica sneakers. Even then I might prefer to just go with the Scarosso GAT sneakers.
Victor Pluntky
Were we not? :(
I can't believe how many people used to go on the sneakers subreddit and post the common projects as their grails and "worth" the money
Flashing Juke School why not? They are still some of the best shoes out
People who buy common projects generally couldn't give a shit about the actual quality. It's about the brand.
It's confirmation bias I agree with you nothing is worst than the frugalmalefashionreddit. I overpay for shoes all the time more than what they are worth the difference is I'm not out here thinking Jordan's make a superior product
I bet they feel a bit silly now throwing their money away when they can have pretty much the same shoes from half the price.
I wouldn't pay that much for sneakers, but worth is subjective and it doesn't bother me if someone else buys Common Projects.
Another great video, I like how you regularly take the time to address any issues from previous videos to clarify or correct yourself.
Great work!
Weston, this is a great channel. I've been watching you videos for a couple of months now and went through a bunch of older videos to catch up. I love what you do and how you explain what you find--you are an educator and entertainer at the same time, with no BS filler stuff. Best wishes for continued success!
Can you do the Gucci Ace's? They have them in all white with a grey heel detail, which I would still categorize as a white sneaker, and they retail for $590.
Yesssss
As cool as they are, they aren't a minimalist white sneaker. It's a brand pop, look at me white sneaker. Different market. Saint laurent's white sneaker might be closer.
@@Oyashio202 still, but they are popular. The quality is the Gucci aces is doubtful, specially the back appliance at the back.
99% of Gucci products are a ripoff. You're paying for the name, not the materials. It's not really worth tearing apart as no materials would warrant that price tag. Hand made shoes wouldn't even cost that much often times.
TheGreatChrisB Gucci isn’t a rip-off in general, it’s just a very certain look. Their high fashion peices are super interesting & if you get the more out there Gucci stuff there really isn’t anything else like it out there. You aren’t paying for the quality you’re paying for the design, which is fine.
Getting white sneakers from Gucci is definitely a “look at me I have cash” move though
This doesn’t surprise me at all. Common projects were about $200 a few years ago before they just went crazy with their pricing.
Edgar Martinez that was 15 years ago....
They didn't go crazy with their pricing, they went smart. People who claim otherwise have no idea about pricing or brand management.
I got mine for $300 a couple of months ago
Most people only buy CP when they’re on sale. Not many would buy CP at full price.
@@deekay13aye, be careful with that acronym mate.
Loved this one Wes! Thank you so much. I own several pairs of Koio’s and am so happy to know that what I am buying is quality for the price point. I was shouting: “Destroy it Wes!!” And you did. As always, thank you for taking the time to help us make the most of our hard earned dollar. Keep up the great work...I am not a cat lover, but I love seeing yours in your videos! Blessings.
@IAmFozzy100 they never said they _disliked_ cats, just that they *weren't a cat lover yet still loved* seeing this cat.
@@Call-me-Al Thanks so much...You are spot on ;0)
@@JASMINEVSMITH Thanks for being such a great Koio supporter!!
I first started watching your channel when i got into leather working. super cool to see you blow up with these CUT IN HALF reviews over the last 6 months. keep up the good and please slip some leather working content in from time to time for us OG's!
The problem with sponsored shoes is they could send you a "modified" shoe with better materials since they know you will tear them apart. Better buy them with your own money you earn from the channel. Keep going.
I guess they could but then that would be fraud...
You really think they're gonna make a custom 1 of 1 sample just to send to a relatively small CZcamsr in order to defraud customers?
If they did send a modified shoe I suspect that it would be noticeable. Often even when people modify things to be taken apart they don't even understand what to upgrade fix so I doubt it would change much
True. Shoemakers can make special shoes like this and we wouldn’t know the difference. I would have bought the shoe instead of receiving it
If that was the case, they’d make them better not the same
That made my mind up, also a very useful discount code, looking forward to them arriving.
The clarifications were really nice, since a lot of us don't know how much leather is really worth. Also, it's really nice to see how you respond to the community around your channel. I'm really enjoying what you do 🔥
Once in a while CZcams drops a gem in front of me. Koio’s sure has nothing to lose letting you cut that in half! I always thought they were pretty much the same quality for half the price. That was super interesting and well done. Subscribed
Really looking forward to the Stan Smiths next week. My pair has held up very well and quite comfortable. Great videos as always
Undoubtedly it's going to be cheaper materials and less build quality, but it's the only one you'd wear out of these in a tennis match, lol.
Common projects CEO left the chat
I definitely love this channel even more. Honest opinions and owning up to your mistake and growing out of them, really inspiring!
This is so cool! I love the comparison where you show the construction and label each part.
I'd love to see a comparison of the Margiela German Army trainers and the original West German shoes. Thanks so much I love your show!
This is actually a good idea
+1
Great suggestion
Yes please
I enjoyed all my Koios when I bought them last year over the CPs but now I know for sure that I made the right decision.
I love the way you did the comparison at the end! Nicely done.
I remember watching some of your content a few months ago. You've been doing great lately by the looks of it, keep it up!
I've been on the fence about getting Koio Sneakers for a long time. I've never really understood the different factors that determined the value of the shoe, especially at such a high price point. It's nice hearing the thoughts and opinions of a shoe expert explained in a way that someone who is mildly interested can understand. I hope that this series will get many views and encourage companies to make fair priced sneakers. I love your content. Keep it up! :)
Thanks for considering Koio, Ronn! Email us at hello@koio.co if you have any questions : )
Studying for the bar exam. But I came here to show my support. Man, your channel is the best
Great video, your tear downs are really helping make better decisions about what footwear to buy!
Mad props !
Love this video, very keen to find out how the Stan smiths and CP/Koio hold up in terms of the differences between the construction and price points.
Looks like you’re blowing the top of all the hype brands that have been ripping the arse out of it
The greats
Artisan lab
Svensson
Oliver cabell
Suit supply (they do an Italian leather minimalist sneaker)
yes please do Greats Royale
H&M 😀
Svensson
for sure!!
Axel Arigatou
Also Pini Parma
Air Force 1 '07. Nike lists the upper material as "Full Grain Leather" so I'd be very interested to know how true this is.
Loving these kinds of no-bullshit reviews. Great work!!!
Great review, was currently looking at both trying to make a decision. Thanks
Wow. The removable insole is particularly surprising; I can see that being a big factor for a lot of people. (I hope some day you start taking on heels and other shoes designed for female-oriented fashion; this channel is going to become an invaluable shopping resource, and it would be awesome if it stretched to that area of shoes.)
Make a video on Artisan Labs. They're almost identical to CP
I have a pair of Artisan Lab essential sneakers incoming. Fantastic price compared to inflated CPs.👍🏻
second this, I own CP and KOIO as well. Still breaking the artisan lab in but would be interested to see if any difference. Also Oliver Cabell or Svennson.
I believe these all are about the same quality. Brand value and design makes the difference.
Very much would like to see an Artisan Lab comparison, thanks!
Agree. Been looking at Artisan Lab as well, wondering how good it actually is compared to KOIO and CP. Actually it'd be great if you could dissect 3-4 different white sneakers and do comparison. That will help a lot of people in deciding which one offers the best quality for the price
Awesome just bought a pair with your discount code! I have common projects too in pink actually, but it's sweet to know that koio is a quality alternative for much lower price point.
Excellent presentation, and so interesting to see what the construction is like, and what one gets for their hard-earned money! I'm waiting for next week... I have a pair of Adidas Stan Smith sneaks that I love... been wearing them on and off for years, as I rotate sneakers the same way I do boots and shoes.
Greats Royale! I’ve heard the leather quality on these is great
I love my pair, so I'd be really curious to see what he thinks.
It's still a Chrome tanned leather with unfinished edges. I got a pair of the white ones to try and all the edges on the outside are unfinished with that blue hue color. I couldn't stand it personally.
They're not.
They’re too chunky
They feel thicker compared to Common Projects.
Oliver Cabell Low 1s would also be a comparison worth! :)
Keep up the nice videos! Really enjoy the x vs. CP format!
This is no joke the exact series of videos I wanted you to make.
Most important videos I’ve seen lately. I have the CP sneakers and thought hard on the KOIO but I wanted “the original”. Next time I’ll shop with my head and not my heart. Thanks for the video
You should check out this Japanese fashion label called Hender Scheme. They are known for their recreation of popular shoes like the Nike Air force 1 or Adidas NMD in premiumn leather. Would love a review on them!
I love this series a lot and enjoy you being honest about everything. It’s crazy how much companies will charge compared to others for the same shoe. I’m glad I didn’t buy the common projects when the KOIO shoe is just as good and cheaper. You saved me $200 😂
You've certainly upped your game since the beginning. Very good and thorough video, this one. Thanks!
Great to watch these vids as it helps us make informed choices
You should do Golden Goose. They have pretty basic models and when I went to buy ones they told me they had this special structure that was meant to protect from cold weather. I don't know if that's true, but it would be great to see you review it!
Yes love to see more designer shoes on your channel- thats where people spend the big bucks so it would be great to see what one is getting for the price! The Balenciaga video was very cool. Thanks for the reviews.
The only channel I IMMEDIATELY watch as soon as I get the notification.
I know I'm late but this is so relaxing to watch and I feel like I'm actually getting a little bit smarter. Thank you!!
One of my favourite CZcams Channels. Doing a great service for consumers! Koio seem very good.
Do a video of you cutting UGG boot and reviewing it !! :)
Veja! It's everywhere, but it feels too expensive for a sneaker...
the logo really kills it :/
I like how he smiles when he says something funny at certain times.
Keep doing what you’re doing, these are fantastic!
Common Projects is going to put out a hit on you
lester's assassination mission update
John Wick 4
Koio quality looks the same but the toe is not as slim
@@JJ-rr7pc Cool. Pay 200 more for this ""not as slim""
Doppler Effect nah I buy mine for $240. 30-40% off is very common
I understand how sponsors are necessary given some shoes like the CP can be expensive but I'm also afraid they might send a better sample (like an early prototype) than what it's available for consumers
He also gets money from each sale, even if he says he doesn't? Doesn't make sense that he has a code and gets no ref money. Very biased in his videos now
@@Undecided_ Kind of hard to be biased when you're literally tearing everything apart and showing it. I guess for people who don't understand the terms it may be biased, but this channel originally started off of artisan products so we all know what he is talking about.
@@Undecided_ he doesnt though. his contracts actually say no to commissions.
Ive been waiting for this, im so excited!!!
Been looking at these vs the common projects for the last couple of month. Finally pulled the trigger on the Koios after watching this video. The discount code definitely helps too!
Thanks for being such a great supporter of Koio, Akhil!
Props for clarifying your points from the CP video! That video certainly got some traction and definitely showed that CP have a loyal following
Btw is Toaster's fur got patchier or something? Not too familiar with devon rex breed
Devon rexes only have one layer of fur (the under layer), which is why it looks all curly, whereas most cats have two layers. Sometimes having only one layer can make it look a bit patchy depending on the angle, because you can see their skin through.
This is so hilarious. Common Projects going from cult to exposed. I'd love to see the Oliver Cabell Low 1's compared next. I just ordered a pair.
Omg!!! It was so long I can’t wait for other of those videos!!! We want one everyday! Hahaha
Wow Weston! Great video yet again!
I like this. I think everyone who buys expensive articles of clothing know that they aren't necessarily buying the full price worth of quality, but rather the brand image/value as well as the prestige and exclusivity that comes along with it.
But for those living right in between those who only buy the expensive or cheap brands-where you're conscious of your style and don't mind paying extra to get the brand name and quality but don't want to pay more than the objective quality just for clout, this type of content is really helpful and great
I took a huge risk buying my Koio's before waiting for you to cut one in half.
Big Snack Cakes I own several pair. I love them, I hope you do too. Wes just solidified it for me. But I cannot see where you will be disappointed. Blessings.
Thank you for doing this! I would love to see Crown Northampton, Oliver Cabell and Svensson teardowns in the coming weeks!
I'm also glad you cleared up the veg-tan vs. chrome tan distinction. Too many people interpreted it as "chrome tan = bad". Common Projects were around the same price as Koio when they first came out, and as you said, chrome tan is absolutely fine at that price range. Their popularity drove prices up over the last 15 years, so they're by no means worth the money in 2020 if we're buying strictly based on value.
Nick from Stridewise also pointed out in his recent video that virtually every minimalist sneaker company except one uses chrome tan in their sneakers. I think it's more of a case where companies are just choosing leathers that are optimal for sneakers than them trying to cheat us. At least now we know that we should avoid $400+ unless we know we're getting veg-tan or if we're going after branding specifically.
Really looking forward to this series as Its hard to differentiate between real quality in the white sneaker craze. In the future maybe trying playing around with the aperture or iso as some of the white parts are blown out in certain scenes.
I'd love to see a video cutting apart some hiking shoes (adidas terrex, Salomon, danner)
Yes! I just got some Salomon hiking boots yesterday and love them, would be very interested in how they are built exactly!
Yes, to Danner. Danner takes the time to describe their materials/build on their site, so it would be interesting to see if it matches up...
Please do
Oliver Cabell Low 1s
Crowns Northampton Overstone Derby
That would be appreciated
Well done, great comparison!
love this channel. you are turning me into a shoe nerd. I love shoes now. I'm running thru all your content to gain insight and an education in footwear. :)
what shirt are you wearing? looks amazing!
You gotta do a Gucci Ace sneaker. I highly doubt they'd sponsor though, but they are so popular and the price has skyrocketed and I suspect they are just so-so in terms of materials.
My top "have-to-see" has got to be the Gucci Ace next to Golden Goose sneakers. I have to know, lol.
So interesting! Love this series
I bought my triple white koios after watching this video. Great video and thanks for the discount
Let do a Christian loubotine “Louis Junior” and the Gucci Ace
I like the branding on the Koio better. Considering how similar they are, I’d definitely go koio over common projects
Me too!
Simply wow. Just shows the power of marketing, word of mouth and cool factor that will have you spend more money when the quality is the same to another brand.
Love this channel so much
Do the Gucci Ace haha please, i’m sure they are waaaay overpriced
FINALLY!!! A comparison video that really goes into the shoes’ literal quality. While I appreciate reviews from bloggers, it’s nice knowing about the shoes’ quality by letting the materials tell the story themselves. Can’t wait ‘till you review a pair of Svensson sneakers.
PS: you just cemented my decision for going for Koios over CPs; nothing justifies the almost $200 premium CP is asking over Koio
Thank you for being such a great Koio supporter!
Amazing video as usual
Oh heck yea. Keep it up with the great content! I hope you can do a comparison of the regular stan smiths vs the Raf Simons stan smiths, which are 3 times more expensive, but don’t seem much noticeably better in quality.
You forgot to cut the grain to determine if it’s truly a full grain leather and compare the grain to the CP to see if your conclusion of top grain leather was correct.
he did when he cut the tongue and separated the panels. just didnt highlight it
What keeps me from getting Koios is
The branding on the heel (a logo could look fine but that huge lettering is too much)
And the 100 bucks shipping to Europe
if it makes you feel better, it's pretty hard to see the branding unless you're up close. but you're right, it is there. i would argue it's less visible than the gold letters on the side of the CP's though
Thanks for doing this. CP's just hyped.
Great comparison! It would be interesting to see the quality of Golden Goose Sneakers given the price point and
distressed look.
You should’ve dissected the opposite side shoes and then tried wearing two different shoes to check for comfort. That would’ve been a neat added comparison. Other than that I enjoyed it.
PS. I’ve bought a few common projects for under $100 when they go on sale. Never the standard white or yearly colors but seasonal ones and for that price they’re great.
I still have no desire to own "luxury" sneakers.
However if I do, Ill take the KOIO over the Common Rip Offs.
Would love to see you take apart a pair of Greats Royales. That’s the pair I have.
was waiting for this