Kids Don't Fly RC Planes. Here's Why.

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  • @oaklep5734
    @oaklep5734 Před 10 měsíci +553

    16 years old and have been a member of a flying club for around 2 years now. Almost everyone else is 55+ and always moaning why there's hardly any youth at the club.
    When I first went was told I had to pass a theory and practical examination, bmfa a certificate and all that. Being 14 and just pursuing an interest sparked from videos I saw on CZcams I was absolutely daunted by this and very nearly didn't go back but I did pursue it. Had to spend about 5 hours with an assigned mentor before they would let me fly on my own, and they wonder why there's only one member of the club under 50

    • @darendth8594
      @darendth8594 Před 10 měsíci +49

      This is a real problem. You have a unique and crucial opportunity to change this club’s mentality on getting youth interested. Please do your best and use that great perseverance to convince the membership what you, as a youth, prioritize to get into and stay in the hobby. I’m guessing it involves more emphasis on the FUN first, then gradually, the theory as you are mentored. Good for you to hang in there. Now pay it forward for other young modelers and mentor your mentors on youth promotion. Good job! Good luck. The ultimate goal should be YOU as a youth, teaching other youth at the club. Make the +55 crowd change their minds. Reach out to your AMA District (region where you live) VP and AVPs for help.

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci +32

      @@darendth8594 As a professional adult educator and job trainer, it's nearly always a fools errand to try to change the attitude or values of an adult. Most refuse to learn anything unless they seek it out themselves, and will reject any advice or suggestion other than their own, as in "who asked for your opinion?"

    • @bluhammer06
      @bluhammer06 Před 10 měsíci +14

      I started as a 50+ adult and learned flying anywhere I could. No club. I met other bootleggers like me and had many years of fun, learning, and friendships. I’ve been in three clubs and none offered the friendliness and fun. I now live away from my old flying buddies and belong to a very large high end club. Not nearly as much fun!

    • @darendth8594
      @darendth8594 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@bluhammer06 Can you please elaborate on any details about your (I’m assuming AMA and in USA) club experiences? This video offers great feedback from members and very well may help direct some positive changes. Thanks in advance. AMA AVP dedicated to advocacy and outreach.

    • @bluhammer06
      @bluhammer06 Před 10 měsíci +7

      @@darendth8594 My club experiences have never been bad or contentious, but neither have they been overly welcoming. I’m a very outgoing personality but there seems to be tight groups of flyers at clubs most who fly the bigger expensive craft. Most have been less then open to welcome you into their world if your just a foamy flyer. We are all AMA/club members but I guess the big boys toys make a distinction. I don’t think I would have ever become the good flyer I am today without the on the edge, walking the line challenging flying my bootlegged friends and I did for many years! So much fun. My extensive videos online show our fun which I’m sure many would criticize. Oh well

  • @samalexander6673
    @samalexander6673 Před 10 měsíci +87

    I'm an 18 year old who got into flying about 4 years ago, one of the biggest engagers to me was flite test and peter stripol and after watching their youtube videos it got me hooked. It also was one of the reasons i'm going to college for aerospace engineering.

    • @ziya4426
      @ziya4426 Před 10 měsíci

      lol same

    • @thespacewhiz
      @thespacewhiz Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yo same but i started in model rockets and came to rc planes and cars

    • @aaronlillard3880
      @aaronlillard3880 Před 2 měsíci

      I love flite test

    • @YoteFisk
      @YoteFisk Před měsícem

      I got into it largely cause of the same channels around early high school as well. By then I already knew I wanted to do it regardless, but it just reinforced my desire to go to college for aerospace engineering. Here I am at the end of my last semester, about to graduate and with a job already lined up. Good luck with your studies!

  • @user-nq5hy7vn9k
    @user-nq5hy7vn9k Před 10 měsíci +289

    As a 20yr old who is cursed with ugliness, this hobby is one of the few things that keep me sane

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 Před 10 měsíci +47

      Trust me, lots of people will find you attractive. Watch what you wish for though…relationships definitely won’t help keep you sane! 😜

    • @pb12echo
      @pb12echo Před 10 měsíci +15

      Don’t sweat it, everybody is beautiful to someone.

    • @dickiewongtk
      @dickiewongtk Před 10 měsíci +1

      That's the problem .

    • @cocainegaming420
      @cocainegaming420 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@dickiewongtkain't know way boy

    • @theoztreecrasher2647
      @theoztreecrasher2647 Před 10 měsíci

      Ah well, most folks get their RC planes sent to them in black plastic bags these days - so you and me are all set up, Kemo Sabe! 😜🙄😂

  • @Sky_Innovations
    @Sky_Innovations Před 10 měsíci +102

    As a 16 year old, I love flying my Rc planes. I started at like 12 years old and I have had so much fun. I consider myself lucky as I started this hobby with a friend and that I live in a fly in community, but now he is always gone to military school so I'm left alone, and I always wonder why none of my other friends want to do Rc. I still fly and I hope to make the best of my skills.

    • @darendth8594
      @darendth8594 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Start your own club with your friends. Come up with ways to get them engaged in the hobby with you. Flexibility is key. Good luck and keep at it if you enjoy it.

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci +3

      Keep at it and congratulations. You probably know by now that RC can give you WAY more skills than just flying, not to mention guts.

    • @TheMilkiestCereal
      @TheMilkiestCereal Před 10 měsíci +1

      same here!

    • @cyclemadness
      @cyclemadness Před 10 měsíci

      Hobbies don't really translate across relationships in my experience. When I was in a local RC club, it was just me coming together with other people that enjoyed that. Currently, I'm into boardgaming and kiteboarding as hobbies. My wife reluctantly humors me from time to time. Otherwise, my interactions are with other people, not in my friend group, that also like those things.

    • @MrHotjag
      @MrHotjag Před 9 měsíci

      Same

  • @dieterweik6858
    @dieterweik6858 Před 10 měsíci +53

    The barrier to entry into R/C aircraft has always been high. Mainly because of the cost and the learning curve. I didn't get into it until I was a senior in HS when I had a job. Crashed my Kadet II and had to wait until I graduated college to be get back into it. That was back in the 1980's. Best chance to get into the hobby at a young age is to have a parent who's already hooked.

    • @aviatoFPV
      @aviatoFPV Před 10 měsíci +4

      I think quads are getting the kids into rc these days. For 150 you have a complete beginner set with charger and goggles.

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci

      @@aviatoFPV for $159 you can get a top quality 17" Pitts Special with a gyro.

    • @cheeseballs3825
      @cheeseballs3825 Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's less than a PlayStation! Learning isn't that hard with all the safe technology. As long as you leave it on. Unlike I did. 😂 My first crash was 5 minutes into flying. Nose first at pretty high speed. Still only cost about 30 bucks to repair.

    • @knoopx
      @knoopx Před 7 měsíci

      me and my father tried to revive an old nitro rc car that was given to us, spent a significant amount of money to fix it but never were able to make it run. back in the 90s we had no knowledge, friends or internet to learn from, so yeah, the barrier was huge.

  • @weeliano
    @weeliano Před 10 měsíci +57

    Everything said here is true! The feeling of building and flying your own creations vs buying off the shelf just doesn't give you the same kind of satisfaction. The maiden flight of your own self built and designed aircraft is simply exhilarating!

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci +1

      The most satisfying part for me is pointing to the sky and saying "I Made That."

    • @jimbo44cc13
      @jimbo44cc13 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I am amazed at the club I belong to now, and its mostly older guys like me, that no one seems to build anything from a kit, except me. They all say the same thing, they would rather spend the time flying instead of building, but I really believe they are missing out.

    • @user-wz9wj8eo8f
      @user-wz9wj8eo8f Před 5 měsíci

      I have been building RV airplanes since I was 9 yrs old and will be celebrating my 67th birthday in a few days. I bought a 40 acre farm to fly on, no regrets. I have almost 100 kits to build and many of the are no longer available. Notany today have the patience or skills to assemble a nice plane today. I lived in Kuwait for years and was told by many that I was the best builder in the country. I could build anything and sell it big bucks. ​@@jimbo44cc13

  • @aviationeli5616
    @aviationeli5616 Před 10 měsíci +170

    And that’s why as a fourteen year old, I fly helicopters so I don’t have to worry about space. Plus helicopters are easier to fly in my opinion.

    • @trumblez
      @trumblez Před 10 měsíci +13

      Im 14 yo too, but i got into FPV Drones 3 years ago, I started flying rc planes 5 years ago

    • @trumblez
      @trumblez Před 10 měsíci +7

      But im getting sick of it right now, every month something of my equipment breaks (I think its because of me only ~30% of the time) and I need to spend 30€-300€ to repair it, im always broke, ive spent 2000€+ on this hobby.
      Im getting into mountainbiking now, its also expensive but my bike doesnt break every month.

    • @saskafrass1985
      @saskafrass1985 Před 10 měsíci +9

      When I was 14 I was only allowed to build planes for my old man, then watch him crash them. The local clubs snubbed my brother and I out too. In my 20s I got back into rc, but with helicopters. I liked the little ones, I could fly them in the house. I started buying bigger ones for more stability. Experimented with early foam electric planes, but they were more fragile than balsa. The new epo foam planes are reasonable in price and very forgiving. I have a small squadron of them. Six months ago I bought my 1st drone. Gotta admit, I kinda regret that was a snob about refusing to try them for so long. Those things are fun and much more forgiving than helicopters.
      But the helicopters were my gateway drug into powered flight.

    • @1985_Honda_CRX_Si
      @1985_Honda_CRX_Si Před 10 měsíci +4

      Same here, and then it evolved into flying fixed wing in state parks

    • @adrianp3098
      @adrianp3098 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I’m looking into rocketry instead and because all rockets are kits it’s very rewarding. When I go to a event I’m one of the few kids who made their rocket and fly it by myself and didn’t come along because I had to.

  • @__-fm5qv
    @__-fm5qv Před 10 měsíci +24

    The lack of hobby stores is definitely a big issue. It's a hobby that I would like to get involved in one day, but hobby stores are all far away, prohibatively expensive, and normally out of stock of many things

    • @gowanturnbull1208
      @gowanturnbull1208 Před 6 měsíci +1

      3D is silly and a waste of time. Why would anyone want to do aerobatics that a real plane can't? They look ridiculous.

    • @__-fm5qv
      @__-fm5qv Před 6 měsíci

      @@gowanturnbull1208 because it's fun

    • @NovaTech1
      @NovaTech1 Před 2 měsíci

      @@gowanturnbull1208because its fun? Ever heard of that?

  • @AerialAdventuresFPV
    @AerialAdventuresFPV Před 10 měsíci +151

    A big thing I've noticed, doing both FPV and the more traditional RC planes, is that the FPV hobby is dominated by people below the age of 30, and fixed wing planes appeal more to older folks. The problem is that the fixed wing folks in my experience push away the FPV guys looking into the plane stuff because they think they're ruining the hobby. If these groups embraced each other more, we'd have so many more younger folks in the hobby

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Před 10 měsíci +11

      Well said!

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci +5

      I've noticed that a lot - I wonder if it's because the younger cohorts tend to have had a heavier video game presence in their lives, and quads seem much more video-game-like to fly? That said, I'm 35, game heavily but only like fixed-wing (no hate for quads, respect the skills, they just don't do it for me) but I gather I'm something of an oddity in that.

    • @johnmills2629
      @johnmills2629 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I hear the same drama. I noticed some pushback/skepticism from the older crowd when a FPV drone pilot joined our club hoping to record their planes in maneuvers. Some were satisfied to hear he changed to only interested in learning fixed wing, not drones. But I and others (older and younger) thought the idea to chase/record would be awesome and would like to learn more about FPV. In the end we learned when he could fly drones when certain club members weren't around.

    • @rckane8394
      @rckane8394 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I try both, have different fun😄

    • @Nathan_Adams
      @Nathan_Adams Před 10 měsíci

      I think this is video and your comment are spot on together. As a drone enthusiast and FPV pilot, I've experienced the gatekeeping first hand. After spending a lot of time at the field in the off hours flying, and slowly meeting and getting to know the local club members, I became accepted and brought into the fold, but if the AMA really wants to bring in new members, they need to be much more aggressive about inclusion of drone and FPV pilot. On top of that, the AMA also needs to be much more aggressive and pursuing regulation that benefits drown in FPV pilots and not just RC aircraft. I think flight test has a much healthier attitude towards bringing in you pilots. I see the same thing happening in BMX and skateboarding, we're kids have the access to scooters, which can be a great gateway to skateboarding or BMX, but a lot of times they're turned off by both communities because of heckling and gatekeeping of spots or skate parks

  • @faequeenapril6921
    @faequeenapril6921 Před 10 měsíci +17

    When i was younger there was next to nowhere to fly and the club was so restrictive where you had to do a full blown safety course that would cost and then after that you were only allowed to fly in a pattern.
    The rules and regulations of the RC hobby in the UK is so restrictive that its basically dead to many people

    • @hx2975
      @hx2975 Před měsícem

      Yep learned when i was 12. could only fly patterns...

  • @andreastz1190
    @andreastz1190 Před 7 měsíci +4

    14 years old and ive been into the hobby for about a year now. From a park flyer to a carbon cub S2, I am trying to get more challenging to fly aircraft in the future, but most importantly i have found a friend (and hopefully more in the future) who i got him into the RC hobby and he is going to purchase his first helicopter. Lastly, i should mention how supportive my father is in this hobby. he doesn't say no when i ask him to go out to the field and practice my flying and do other things. He also financially supports me just enough so i can have a fun time with a decent plane. thank you tailheavy for inspiring me to fly RC.

  • @emersonb5764
    @emersonb5764 Před 10 měsíci +73

    Most of these hit the nail on the head for me. Especially the one about reaching a certain age and stepping away. When I got a job and a car and a girlfriend at 15, my RC hobby ended until I was around 30

    • @julybliss4440
      @julybliss4440 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Same for me besides adding a child in with the gf and car.

    • @S_T_A_R_K_E
      @S_T_A_R_K_E Před 10 měsíci +6

      Exactly the same for me, once I hit 15 flying foamies on the weekend was replaced with going to bars. Now I'm 30 I am diving right back into the hobby and loving it more than ever!

    • @craigcupit1917
      @craigcupit1917 Před 10 měsíci +4

      Same, realizing I wasted all that hobby time on women.

    • @roflman2122
      @roflman2122 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@S_T_A_R_K_Esame I started as a kid - 12 year break but now back at the hobby building my first fpv plane

    • @rodriguezfranco3839
      @rodriguezfranco3839 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Kinda the same , I think I stoped flying at 20 or 19 after a mayor crash hehe , my problem was university taking all my free time and money now I am 26 I hope I can go back to it at 30 I even have a brand new engine and plane all assembled that I never got to fly

  • @samsmith6976
    @samsmith6976 Před 10 měsíci +61

    as someone who started flying in middle school, I believe that all of these points are true. From my standpoint, it is essential to get parents involved to necessitate safety, but to also give the kid confidence while flying. I buddy-boxed for years, and I feel like that was super helpful. One other thing is that it is important to watch and see if your kid is getting better. I flew a sport cub for years as a kid, and it really did just get boring. As soon as I switched to the ArtiZan low wing airplane, my enjoyment skyrocketed. I also feel like a dedicated flying field isn't always necessary, I am lucky enough to have one close by, but I started flying in a parking lot with a used super cub. Some of the most fun I've had is fucking around with a umx timber at a baseball field with some friends. With the use of phones and Ipads, it will be extremely hard to pull younger kids out to fly. there really isn't a good way around it. it seems like if they aren't interested, you can't get them out to try it. but because of this, if you see a kid that is interested, jump on the chance and teach them everything you need to know.

    • @toolbaggers
      @toolbaggers Před 10 měsíci +4

      Parents need to supply $$$. I guess you can make your kid to get a job to buy their own stuff but good luck with that.

    • @chadtunneler7959
      @chadtunneler7959 Před 10 měsíci

      Where you at ?

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci

      not so much the phones as the parents who gave it to them instead of raising them themselves.

    • @samsmith6976
      @samsmith6976 Před 10 měsíci

      @@stevendaleschmitt exactly lol. I'm glad I have great parents

  • @NightFlyyer
    @NightFlyyer Před 10 měsíci +47

    I teach the kids once every year (as you know) in our 7th grade science classes. Did it for 14 years so far. I fly all types of models for them in the gym and explain how they work. Many seem excited at the time, but not many have pursued it. It seems those that fly, fly only drones. Good points in this video, Zack. Now we just have to figure out a solution. I would personally like to see AMA ads on TV, showing flying as you suggest, or even using this video. Fly easy! ~Dave

    • @bwc1976
      @bwc1976 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I wish my school had had someone like you!

    • @NightFlyyer
      @NightFlyyer Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@bwc1976 Thanks very kindly.

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci

      My suggestion is they get trained, qualified, professional educators on it. Good pilots don't always make good teachers.

    • @redryder6987
      @redryder6987 Před 10 měsíci

      @@stevendaleschmitt Depends. If we are talking about an FAA brownshirt using that chance to gatekeep someone? No. If we are talking about actual teachers, well... most don't care as much as you'd like to wish they do about kids and I think the results of that have been showing for the past 20 years. Some don't even deserve to be teachers, but are simply because they have a piece of paper hanging on their wall, and I honestly don't see a lot of professional career pilots getting on board with RC aircraft. Some of them, sure, but there's a lot of them who very much treat flying as if it were an exclusive country club that only career pilots can get into, and anything threatening that hegemony is demonized. Since those same people run the FAA, the FAA subsequently establishes rules preventing undesirable people from flying. There is a reason that depression and other mental health issues are practically never reported by pilots and that is exactly the reason why Germanwings 9525 nose dived into the ground.

    • @knoopx
      @knoopx Před 7 měsíci +1

      by drones you mean flying cameras or the proper thing?

  • @gemfaceter
    @gemfaceter Před 10 měsíci +6

    As a retired person that has flown for years I can tell you it's getting harder to find a place to fly. The cost of materials and rules by the FAA is taking the fun out of the hobby. The regulations will increase each year as the the FAA wants us out of the air.

    • @MS-ig7ku
      @MS-ig7ku Před 10 měsíci

      The FFA is trying to destroy the hobby

  • @austinlangley4539
    @austinlangley4539 Před 10 měsíci +8

    You forgot the part of the drone laws and regulations like the remote id and having to get a drone license here in Canada that all just pushes them away

  • @anatolyodievich7658
    @anatolyodievich7658 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Honestly, gig shout out to Bryan Connely from the video. He has a thriving youth group, and almost every single time I'm at the field with him, a bystander asks to join. He has it nailed to a science.

  • @ThatOtherAndrew
    @ThatOtherAndrew Před 10 měsíci +13

    As member of the hobby in their late 20's, I've noticed that field/club availability and time are my two biggest limiters. The two "nearest" fields to my home are both a 1~2 hour drive oneway and I simply don't have the time in my life to make that trip enough times/week to make it worth the club fee and the gas prices. I'll fly a helicopter in my cul-de-sac or go to a local park to fly a glider or park plane, but it's just not reasonable to me to go to a dedicated field.

    • @williamknox4303
      @williamknox4303 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Depending on where you live, maybe you could start your own field!

    • @kennethrollins843
      @kennethrollins843 Před 10 měsíci +2

      We have same problems at our model rocket club but add "explosions'

  • @droomdronen731
    @droomdronen731 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Here a 15 year old kid. I started woth rc when i was 6 with a 10€ toy drone for inside wich i got for my birthday. I loved it so much that i got a much better one (still a toy) for sinterklaas (sort of Christmas). When i was 12 and now having a big camara drone (no dji allready hated those), I got kinda bored of just hovering a drone so a couple of freinds of my dad introduced me into fpv drones. I got lucky that i have so many supportive people around me, that just help me with every problem i need help for. But then me and my father got a great idea for a plane. Only one problem i couldn't build or fly them. I just bought some foamboard and a 30 dollar electronic set and started building. After a day of building me and my friend who has rolled bassicly the same in this hobby, got a "plane". We bike to a field and trow the thing in the air. It flew left right left right up down to the other side where it "landed". We cheer and go back home to fix it and solve its problems. And after a year of that in repeat we now have a plane with a wingspan of 3 meter that flew first try. I do need to say that i have a lot of really generous people around me who have given me motors and servo's sometimes even planes. I can not thank them anough. By the way i really don't like flying clubs because when i visited them they took littery 3 hours to check my plane and then i could fly in trainer mode :/ yes it flew but would it have flown before those 3 hours yes i think so. And there are just no young people, i am luxky to have 2 friends who are also in this hobby and i just always fly with them in our field.

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci +1

      3 meters? Damn, sounds like whatever approach you've taken it's working for you. 😁

  • @montagdp
    @montagdp Před 7 měsíci +1

    35 year-old here. I've been in the hobby since I was a teenager, just when electric park flyers were becoming a thing. That was lucky for me, because the couple times I've visited a field, I haven't been too thrilled with the experience. I'd rather just go fly by myself and enjoy some peace and quiet without having to deal with the personalities, dues, rules, and waiting your turn to fly. I'm currently enjoying flying my UMX Radian in the backyard and working on a sub-250g 3D printed FPV plane. Hoping to get one or both of my daughters interested in it.

  • @quillmaurer6563
    @quillmaurer6563 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Very good points! I can think of a couple other issues on the "parents" side:
    One is concerns about safety. Back in the day, kids were let loose to go have fun however they pleased. My mom and her brothers played with firecrackers as kids, you never see that now (and that in particular I think is probably a good thing). Some parents might think that R/C planes are dangerous. But more than the planes themselves, it compounds with the issues like the parents having to take the kids to the field. Back in the day, kids rode wherever they wanted on their bicycles, now, in spite of having phones that would let parents keep tabs on their kids at all times or the kids could call for help if needed, very few kids do that, and are entirely reliant on their parents to go anywhere - far less independent. Same goes for riding public transit alone. I'm 28, I actually did ride my bicycle everywhere in middle and high school, but none of my classmates did. A lot of parents would probably want far more vetting of the adults involved as well, far more controlling of who their kids are around.
    Another is the decline of hobbies in general. Kids are far less encouraged to invest effort into things for the fun of it. At one time, kids were told "All ya gotta do is go to school, get okay grades, that will be enough to get you a factory job like daddy's that will give you a secure salary you can buy a house and support a family and stay at home wife with. The rest of your time is to do with as you wish, do something fun!" Then, I get the sense in the '80s, there was the "every kid's gotta become a millionaire or they and their parents are failures" mindset, followed by the more recent "If you don't have two degrees and a million extra-curriculars (and likely even if you do) you'll never make a living wage" reality. Kids are pressured to "excel" in every way, a lot more time spent doing homework, organized extra-curriculars, extra studying, and so on. If something couldn't in some justifyable way contrubte to the kid's eventual career prospects, it's not worth doing. No time or mental capacity left over for any sort of demanding hobby, all kids can do with what's left of their brain is mindlessly consume TikTok videos.
    Solution that might be to provide the hobby in a way that accommodates these concerns: make it into an organized extra-curricular school-sponsored activity. Host it at the school (most schools have fields that would be great for flying foamies) with background-checked teachers. Make a big point made about the vocational and STEM skills it teaches, so that it actually has "value." This would also help the "no other kids" issue the video described. Many schools have robotics clubs, why not an R/C flying club? Or for that matter, some schools have E-sports clubs, I think if that can gain traction R/C flying (or perhaps R/C vehicles in general) ought to have a chance.

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci

      That's a good point around extracurriculars and the expectations attached to them. You see it even in hobbies like visual art or music, there's a lot of pressure nowadays to turn every activity into a "side hustle" rather than have it be something for its own sake, or, unimaginably, just fun. I'm so used to that I assumed it was always the way, but it's interesting to hear that it was less so a generation or two back.

    • @quillmaurer6563
      @quillmaurer6563 Před 10 měsíci

      @@rcbinchicken Yeah, exactly. Everything has to be commodified, somehow productive, either for profit, prestige, or a narrowly-defined sort of "wellness" (so fitness is allowed and encouraged - at least as long as it's tracked in some way). It really sucks, the idea that our entire lives exist to make money, not to, you know, live.
      I'm only 28 years old so I've not known a different time, but I get the sense it was different in past generations. Even just pop culture, movies, anything from past times that showed how kids spent their free time (which existed then). I know it is in different cultures (I'm from the US), I traveled to Amsterdam a couple years ago and was amazed to see so many people chilling in parks. Just ... existing. Happily enjoying themselves, no expectations, no "hustle," no "grind." They looked so blissfully happy, in a way American culture would immediately deride as "lazy."
      The good news is I'm seeing a lot of younger people, totally burned out on life due to this, starting to push back, to say "let's just enjoy activities for their own sake, seek joy rather than profit, work to live rather than live to work." I'm guessing you're part of that simply by noticing and acknowledging this and longing for something different, as am I. So maybe there's hope that this will change eventually. And that if or when we raise our own kids, we'll encourage them to do stuff they enjoy - including building and flying toy planes if that interests them.

    • @matztertaler2777
      @matztertaler2777 Před 5 měsíci

      As a Boyscout Teamleader, i can confirm: it is a nasty Hard wirklich to get todays kids to the point where they do things that last longer then 10 minutes, needs work to be done, are based on a growing expierience, .......we cannot let grow a fire what parents did not lightened up. Most parenta killed their kids phantasy ,m endurance and will to explore by giving them electronic devises. The colatteral damage is out of proportional, but society still praises this as a good thing

  • @snaeb-ps3bd
    @snaeb-ps3bd Před 10 měsíci +5

    I think a lot of kids could be introduced to RC flying if a good RC sim came out on Xbox/Playstation, maybe even included with game pass/playstation plus

  • @lrmorrison999
    @lrmorrison999 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I built free flight and RC aircraft with my father at 14 years of age. I taught my three sons the hobby when they were young as well. My oldest son got his pilots license as soon as he turned 17 and then went to the Air Force Academy. He graduated in 1995 and went on to a career flying the F-15E retiring as a Lt Col. My youngest son went to Washington State University and there joined the Air Force ROTC program and after graduation trained on the F-15E, became a senior fighter pilot and then transferred to the F-35 program and taught new F-35 pilots about air combat.
    My whole family were aviators, my father owned a Stearman in the late 1930’s. He was a flight engineer on a Sikorsky VS-44 flying boat and flew the Atlantic in 1942 and 1943. He couldn’t pilot the VS-44 due to hearing loss in one ear and he was 4F for military service. I took flying lessons when I was 30 years of age after serving in Vietnam. I owned my own Cessna for about 6 years and taught all my children to fly.
    It all started with someone who loved “Flight” and was willing to teach others. Now my flying is mostly RC, I build my own designs. My oldest son has a nice older Mooney that I can fly on occasion! 🙂

  • @Helicopterpilot16
    @Helicopterpilot16 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I was beating myself up the one day. I took my kit made DLG to a church and a child asked to fly it. Of course I said no, but then I had the instant reflection of what it was like being a curious kid around nay-saying adults. Makes me want to get a UMX cub for such moments.
    P.S. Nice touch on the Grinder page on the tablet!

  • @snaeb-ps3bd
    @snaeb-ps3bd Před 10 měsíci +11

    I'm in high school and I'm actually a pretty avid flyer. My parents are supportive about it as long as I spend the money I make, and they'll drive me to the nearest flying field about an hour away as long as I bring my younger brothers with me to play at the nearby park. I mostly use ultra-micro planes as they are cheaper to maintain and I can fly them around in my grandparent's backyard (only a 10 minute drive away). I have dabbled in scratchbuilds and it is a very rewarding experience. I do hope this hobby can survive at least as long as I can live, as this is one of my main hobbies and I really enjoy it.

  • @WindCatcherRC
    @WindCatcherRC Před 10 měsíci +3

    I was talking to the president of one of our local clubs just yesterday about this very issue. I love the idea of having a youth group at the local club.
    Every point you made is spot on. It's great that you suggested solutions to address the issues you brought up.

  • @voyhager3
    @voyhager3 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I always get questions when I’m flying at the park, and I always try to bring some old beater like an arrow, or I used to have a Storch which flew beautifully until the lifecycle happened. I trained 4 people on that plane, 2 were kids. One of which I saw flying his own plane a few weeks ago!
    But a lot of this can be applied to other hobbies, mainly rocketry. Where there isn’t a whole lot of youth involved either (besides littles Estes stuff, which everyone starts somewhere, or they can only go so far). But I’ve always seen the older folks always be welcoming, and helpful to the youth who come to the range. And that’s definitely a reason why I’ve gone so far in that hobby, and I wish the plane community was more like that. And yes, I know it can, but not always.
    And I hope to continue my connection with flying throughout college! Especially since one of the final projects for aerospace engineers is to design and build a plane from scratch! (And I want to have a bit of a leg up on the competition)

  • @JonsRC
    @JonsRC Před 10 měsíci +8

    Yes! These are all great points. It makes me so happy whenever I see new youth at the field, especially when they try the hobby out because they saw one of my videos. As a side note, me and my friends all love building true kits! I’m a free flight nerd, but my friends love making Guillows/Dumas kits RC equipped. Great video!

  • @ignasanchezl
    @ignasanchezl Před 10 měsíci +7

    This is literally my current life goal, thanks to you guys. Getting as many people into the hobby as I can.

    • @scottyh72
      @scottyh72 Před 10 měsíci

      Why? That's why we are in this mess. I have been flying for 35 years. Only recently have I had any issues. It's the new people to the hobby that have messed it up. That and the ARF's. Having to build your aircraft yourself weeds out the people that usually cause trouble.

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl Před 10 měsíci

      @@scottyh72 hahaha

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl Před 10 měsíci

      wait you're not joking?
      oh btw I'm all about building.
      But also if you're serious, shut up. Tower Hobbies didn't die because "there was too many people buying stuff" The complete opposite problem.

    • @scottyh72
      @scottyh72 Před 10 měsíci

      @ignasanchezl Look at every break out activity. It always gets worse with more people. Mtb, snowboarding, 4wheeling, you name it. More people means more rules broken, and then rule makers notice. If you're under 30, this won't make sense to you....

    • @scottyh72
      @scottyh72 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ignasanchezl Who shops at tower hobbies?

  • @Just_AnotherPlayer
    @Just_AnotherPlayer Před 10 měsíci +4

    I'm a teen and I've been wanting to join the RC hobby for a while now but the thing keeping me from it is the cost

  • @peterbrown6382
    @peterbrown6382 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video, as a baby I saw my dad fly rc planes and with my mild Asperger’s I was hooked at the age of 4 when he placed a transmitter in my hands. Now 30 years have gone by and I couldn’t live my life without my precious hobby.

  • @thomasnewton9818
    @thomasnewton9818 Před 10 měsíci +5

    One major things that has changed is that you can't build from a kit or scratch for what an ARF costs. So the loss of building skills is gone. Another problem is the availability of hardware and materials to build a traditional balsa model are difficult to find and are very cost prohibitive.
    I recently visited a club with the intent on joining. I was literally driven out of the place. I went to a different club and joined.

  • @KingBurger4482
    @KingBurger4482 Před 10 měsíci +4

    As a kid. I can confidently say you hit the nail with the hammer. The club I’m a part of actually did advertising and that is the only reason I’m sitting with 4 planes today. I went to that field and I was immediately welcomed warmly and I got my hands on a aeroscout from one of the club members. I did my first flight in one with him. And then went and bought my own aeroscout. Then after that is history. I went again one time when I just got my ultimate 3D and saw this guy do a KE spin. I watched him do that and I worked every day I could to get it down. And now I have it down. And yes, it’s so much easier when your enticed by the planes at the hobby shop.

    • @scaleworksRC
      @scaleworksRC Před 10 měsíci

      I bought an Aerobird 2 on a whim around 2012 and did some crazy things with that little plane. Unforgettable. Great little plane that is now the Scout.

  • @GT0_
    @GT0_ Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a 13 yr old ILOVE to fly my rc airplane I can do it at my house I’m even 3D printing things for it and I would LOVE to get a Cessna 172 Skyhawk rc plane because I want to fly in it when I grow up! I will NEVER stop doing this because I LOVE it don’t worry there are still people out there to keep the hobby growing and going!!!!

  • @MJ-bj1gn
    @MJ-bj1gn Před 10 měsíci +2

    I couldn’t agree more! I started flying in 2019 because there was a local club that had a kids camp where I learned to build and fly an Electro-Glider. In 2020 I stopped with the RC hobby. But 2 years ago I got addicted to FPV and now I’m building new FPV Wings every week and I‘m enjoying Planes more than ever

  • @notsogood4321
    @notsogood4321 Před 10 měsíci +4

    as a recent young adult in the uk my main issue getting into rc planes and drone was regulation the electronics are cheap enough (used to at the very least) and building a quad or rc plane isnt that big of a hurdle its just that i cannot be bothered to check if i am within compliance with the CAA , thankfully most of my neighbours are really nice and I stopped caring if i was complying or not with the CAA because the cops in my area are so overworked and underpaid they cant bring themselves to stop some snotty kid from flying his quad

  • @Donuts_random_stuff
    @Donuts_random_stuff Před 10 měsíci +6

    It’s not only important to get kids into this hobby for the hobby but it’s also important for aviation because a lot of pilots started there interest in aviation with rc planes so if the hobby dies there might be a pilot shortage in the future as well

    • @blake9908
      @blake9908 Před 10 měsíci

      There's already a pilot shortage. But as a pilot, i only know a couple of pilots that care about RC

  • @razorbackbird2142
    @razorbackbird2142 Před 5 měsíci

    42 yrs old and startet the hobby 10yrs ago. Most foam warbirds. I love to weathering and re-camo my birds. What i love the most is: You (usualy) need to look up. Put'n your eyes away from the crap down here. You get another perspective (specially if flying FPV). So refreshing!

  • @malkadewage7042
    @malkadewage7042 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I am a Ten year old child my very first plane was an old beat bixler 2 I fixed that it up and it flew like a dream I had a great madein flight. I really appreciate what you are doing over at tail heavy productions.😊

  • @NicholasRehm
    @NicholasRehm Před 10 měsíci +5

    To add the to “pay to win” point y’all made, the new features and gizmos marketed to beginners (SAFE/fancy transmitters/smart batteries/autopilots) actually make it more frustrating to get airplanes set up in my opinion. There’s so much more procedures & setup you need to mentally buy into with these sorts of things. Sometimes they work first try, but when they don’t, good luck figuring out your problem with no prior experience/context. Did you set up your smart radio? Did you calibrate your magnetometer? Could you figure out the smart battery charger? All things that would get me to give up before even making it out to the field. Getting out to the field and immediately crashing a basic 3ch would get me more amped up than having to learn what SAFE is, why I need it, and how to turn it on with my radio & make sure it’s working correctly

    • @ignasanchezl
      @ignasanchezl Před 10 měsíci +1

      I've been wanting to recommend more basic airplanes for the same reasons.
      Plus I don't want people locked into Spectrum.
      Too bad it's literally impossible to find cheap EPP or EPO trainer airframes anymore, because on the other side, generic electronics are cheaper than they've ever been.

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci

      That stuff would have driven me up the wall, I started the hobby within that era but I'm glad I was too broke to afford any of it! 😛

  • @billc_26
    @billc_26 Před 10 měsíci +3

    As a fellow kid in the RC hobby, I found this video VERY truthful. The only way I'm flying is thanks to my dad, who flew RC long before I was born. He got one of my friends and I into it, and its pretty cool. My friend and I both now fly the Extreme Flight 48" MXS, mine's red and his is green (your MXS video helped with that lol).

  • @crashtestrc7213
    @crashtestrc7213 Před 4 měsíci

    I am a 15 year old pilot. I started flying three years ago. I started with Flite Test videos when I was younger which got me hooked on RC planes. I collected parts for many years, but never built any planes. In 2020 I found a local hobby shop. This was one of many blessings. I got assistance and built my first plane, a FT-22 I wrecked it, and kept building and flying other aircraft. Other blessings that made my journey in to RC possible were my parents supporting me. They gave me a job to help pay for the hobby, and we’re happy to take me to the hobby shop/flying field. Another was the club. There were few requirements to join, and fly, and no one was bothered when my lack of skill sent my plane into the ground. Even more they offered me advice, and even parts, and entire kits. Without the blessings I mentioned here, I may have never joined this great hobby, and I appreciate all the help I received.

  • @userTJ39780
    @userTJ39780 Před 4 měsíci

    I fell down the Flite Test rabbit hole, and my son came along for the ride (Tiny Trainer and Bloody Baron are his favorites). Now he also flies a Flite Test P-40 and Freewing MiG-15. I took him to Edgewater and Flite Fest 4 times in the last 5 years.

  • @Brady_Knifedge
    @Brady_Knifedge Před 10 měsíci +15

    As a 12 year old going into turbine rc I think this is partially correct although as I go to more and more rc events I see more kids wanting to get into the hobby.

    • @jacobingram147
      @jacobingram147 Před 10 měsíci

      I only had 1 rc plane before, and it was for my 12th birthday. I don't want to get another because I don't want to waste my 1 birthday present on something I'm just gonna break in 1 day but I might just get one for my 13 birthday do you have any suggestions on what model I should get?

    • @solarsynapse
      @solarsynapse Před 10 měsíci +4

      You are VERY fortunate to have rich parents that support you.

    • @Brady_Knifedge
      @Brady_Knifedge Před 10 měsíci

      @@jacobingram147 E-Flite apprentice in the Rtf package. It was my first plane and I had a lot of fun with it.

    • @Brady_Knifedge
      @Brady_Knifedge Před 10 měsíci

      @@solarsynapseI agree my parents are very supportive but also very strict. It’s not like my parents just go out and buy me an expensive airplane.

    • @HarrisonHorton99999
      @HarrisonHorton99999 Před 19 dny

      @@Brady_Knifedgeyou fly turbines. When you say strict you probably mean they take your laptop away from you when you buy a $4000 jet engine

  • @Brian_Christensen07RC
    @Brian_Christensen07RC Před 10 měsíci +6

    The parents being involved is right on… my dad and I got into this at the same time and now I fly every day if I can and it wouldn’t happen without him.

  • @jeremysargent5037
    @jeremysargent5037 Před 10 měsíci

    I started when I was 5 years old because my brother who was 9 started. We did everything outdoor free-flight, control line scale & combat, 1/8th stock car racing, rc planes and later on rc helicopters. We did this in the 1970s and we've been doing it ever since. We worked jobs at the local grocers to get the cash. We both did STEM subjects at university later on. It's the best thing kids can do to get ahead in life to learn how to work with their hands and be highly technical. Also it was a great way to bond as a family. Dad just provided transport if he was around otherwise we would get around using our bicycles. You can start your 1/8th scale cars using the back wheel of a bike. We also learnt how to repair our models since there was no such thing as a ready to fly.

  • @ianturvey3894
    @ianturvey3894 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Your video is spot on! It’s not just the RC hobby suffering the same problems getting the young interested. I’ve experienced the same old git attitude in model engineering clubs, model railway/railroad clubs and even in the full size railway preservation societies. And the very same people say that they need more youth involvement!

  • @ralphfrasier2079
    @ralphfrasier2079 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Hey Guys, I.M.O. this by far is the very best video you have posted. Your script is spot on all points. Getting kids interested is by parent participation, and the local C.B.O. actively encouraging and engaging the community at large. Thanks for posting!

  • @darendth8594
    @darendth8594 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Good job Zach and Ben. Being able to hear different ideas and take criticism is important.
    If we had the majority of members and clubs simply embrace no. 1 alone we would see more kids AND adults in this hobby. My motto when anyone shows up to fly anywhere - EVERYONE FLIES! Adults don’t get away with saying “no thanks”. I tell them I want you to experience the challenge yourselves, it will take your support and besides, you may just enjoy it! They are in the air in minutes and we are creating fun and smiles. Leave the “devil is in the details”, aka rules and memberships and theory for later, after the fun and smiles. It’s fun and rewarding. I’d also add getting out into the education community to engage STEAM teachers. Professional development is paid time to work on things like aeromodeling curriculum.
    This will be shared guys. 👍🏻

    • @stevendaleschmitt
      @stevendaleschmitt Před 10 měsíci +1

      Good teachers can make life-long devotees. Bad teachers can drive anyone away from any topic forever, and often do. Good pilots do not necessarily make good trainers.

  • @AviationLiveYT
    @AviationLiveYT Před 10 měsíci +1

    I am 17 and have always wanted to fly RC since I remember. When I was 12, i got my first plane, then learned flying, became better, even did 3D and Pattern Aerobatics. Now I am in aeronautical college, learning the theory of aircraft design, designing my own 3D printed Aircraft and fly gliders.
    The wish to fly RC planes is pretty much the base of my whole life until now and will probably be the base of my carreer.
    Even though spending 100+ hours per week in the workshop almost felt depressing in the end, when I was 15. I am happy I did it that way.

  • @mistgate
    @mistgate Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm a train guy. I don't know how I landed here, but we're seeing a pretty similar issue in trains.
    My club has a mix of problems between old vanguard and new models not offering any learning experience.
    Geezers complain about how kids run their trains without offering any instruction about safe and responsible (doesn't need to be realistic) operation. I'm really hoping our new ops layout and future circle burn rebuild will help with that.
    Kits and undecorated models are falling out of favor these days. Most kids (and even adults) will just grab the fully equipped locomotive with no modifications and run it. If it does need work, most just pawn off the upgrade on the hobby shop or never learn more than plug and play installs. Not too many people are picking up the basic rolling stock kits anymore.
    Fortunately, it's not totally lost. My club has one younger guy who has actually been pretty responsible with his running and has shown to be fairly capable at building basic kits. We're looking at giving him a couple old kits the club recently acquired to rebuild them if he's interested.
    I know I'm guilty of gatekeeping, but there's only so much incorrect Union Pacific trivia I can take from someone who should be capable of learning how to do more than plug and play.

  • @mikefly562
    @mikefly562 Před 10 měsíci +5

    As always Zach, excellent video! Huge thanks to Bryan Connelly as well, he's been such a huge factor in getting youth membership and parents to our field, and is one of the primary reasons why our field is continuing to thrive. I've been to events at other fields in the past and I often been asked how can fields attract younger members. I feel lucky to be part of a field that has a large youth membership and I feel grateful for the all the members that are part of our club, no matter the age.

  • @heatherparmeter8037
    @heatherparmeter8037 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The gate keeping is so true! I cannot stand all the BS the old men talk about how the hobby is dying but then want to be a grumpy butt hole when my kids have questions about something. Heck even when my grown ass 30 year old husband (whose been flying since he was a child) starts talking about things they try and shut him down like he doesn't know anything. I cant go to the field cause I speak my mind 😂

  • @ChrisB...
    @ChrisB... Před 10 měsíci

    I got interested as a 70's kid because my first grade teacher's husband donated all his RC magazines to the class. I read all of them, RC planes were the only thing I cared about for a long time. :) That was back when a 2 channel setup cost $500, didn't get my first RC plane until about 10 years later, but I built gliders and rubber powered models while I waited. Still flying two 3D planes, one electric and one nitro and a fleet of LOS and FP drones.

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Once anything starts costing more than $150 or so, it gets quite a bit harder to convince mom & dad to buy in. The price of everything needed to do it well and also keep things interesting (not too dumbed down or underwhelming) adds up quickly. If you invest in a good controller and enough batteries to keep you at the park more than 10 minutes, it can be disappointing if the kid still gets bored too fast - so that's what makes parents wary of it.
    Regardless of all that, scratch-built foamies which are small and slow enough to be considered park-flyers are probably the best bang-for-the-buck starting out. That reduces the need to go to some designated area and most NIMBY or regulation barriers. And instead of crying about something crashing, foamies made of what amounts to junk tend to be something you can laugh about as long as you can recover the electronics out of it for the next project you come up with.

  • @brookekathryn1980
    @brookekathryn1980 Před 10 měsíci +4

    We fly as a family. My wife and daughter fly often, my baby girl, 21 months is working on a simulator and she surprisingly understands it!

  • @jeremiahjohnson3018
    @jeremiahjohnson3018 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Good morning, I've been waiting all week for this.

  • @Benjaminabasolo
    @Benjaminabasolo Před 10 měsíci +1

    I'm 14, I started flying RC planes between 5-6 and haven't stopped since, my dad flyes from about the same age as me, and we've always loved aviation since we fly full scale as well, I don't plan to stop flying and it's rewarding to see how I started flying a crappy micro from Eflite to fly IMAC with a 60cc Skywing Lazer, I don't have friends who fly rc, they think it's boring but honestly I don't care if it makes me happy I'm fine with it, the people I've to meet and the thing I've learned with this hobby, full scale as well, to me are amazing at this age, definitely something I love and I will not stop doing. I do have to recognize I'm lucky to have been born in a world surrounded by aviation My dad has a flite school in full scale and we have a container full of RC planes in our club which is CACH in Chile, it's probably the reason I'm so into this and I also have him to teach me as well. I also like making Flite test models with not too expensive parts and flying them in random places, which if you don't have any other option is a great way of getting into this hobby, there are some easy to build and fly models and at fields there are always people who are willing to help.

  • @tench745
    @tench745 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I’m teaching my best friend to fly rc planes and she describes it as “The coolest hobby I’ll never have.” The amount of learning and equipment is a turn-off but she’s happy to come out with me and buddy-box on my planes. My goal is to get her confident enough we each fly something together.

  • @mavicminipilot
    @mavicminipilot Před 10 měsíci +3

    0:08 I think that your targeting me 😢

  • @joegroves2517
    @joegroves2517 Před 10 měsíci

    I remember building plastic models as a kid and being in awe of the RC planes in the hobby shop but it was so expensive and my dad and I maxed out our woodworking skills at pinewood derby cars. We actually got one of those Arrows paper and balsa rubber band kits and I didn't know where to start and neither did he. I was stunned by how much more accessible it was to teach myself to fly with youtube and a ready-to-fly Carbon Cub now that I'm an adult that could even be repaired when someone ran me off the runway and I broke the tail off. You're entirely right about the greater investment when you build your own anything, but I think that could be more than balanced out by the lower barrier to entry these days. With the right environment this could be a golden age for the hobby. One of those RTF setups fits an X-mas budget far better than anything I knew of back in the day.

  • @mibnsharpals
    @mibnsharpals Před 10 měsíci +1

    One problem was not addressed : frustration tolerance
    I remember how many models were destroyed by my self, after i spend many hours to build it. Either because of construction errors, construction errors, or just control errors.
    In addition, in the 1970s the remote controls became more reliable, but flying was still very elementary and it took some time before the model was mastered.
    Today I buy the child a drone and it flies (almost) by itself.
    Even the flight maneuvers that are shown in the videos are managed through the massive use of electronics. I don't think more than 1% of users would be able to fly the maneuvers without electronics.

  • @bransonclayton
    @bransonclayton Před 10 měsíci +2

    I gotta say to you guys...your production quality is far beyond some larger rc channels on here fr. Keep it up! Im surprised your subs haven't blown up yet.

  • @OfficialGerman001s
    @OfficialGerman001s Před 21 dnem

    I am actually 13 and love flying RC planes as a hobby.
    I have to thank my friend, who showed me his RC plane, which got me into RC Flying!
    I got a better RC Plane last week and i absolutely love it!
    Most people in this community are very nice, even to me!

  • @conbonesthevoid1448
    @conbonesthevoid1448 Před 10 měsíci +5

    ama is only useful as a insurance company for flying fields

    • @old_coastie
      @old_coastie Před 10 měsíci

      I respectfully disagree...

    • @conbonesthevoid1448
      @conbonesthevoid1448 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@old_coastie You are very much welcome to. Counter arguments are welcome.

  • @ezrarichardson279
    @ezrarichardson279 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I started at about 15 after having watched RC test flight. I was always drawn to the building part of the aircraft and have scratch built all but one of my aircraft (a bixler 2). It wasn’t easy and I still have yet to fly with any other RC pilots at all, but it’s among the coolest things I’ve done.

  • @mjpburke1
    @mjpburke1 Před 10 měsíci

    Our club has been working with the local high school. We have had 2 classes over the past 2 yrs. It is under the school STEM program. We are very fortunate the teacher embraced the ideal when we approached her and the school about it. Club members go to the school over late winter/early spring to assist the teacher/help the kids build there FliteTest kits, the Tiny Trainer. Then they come out to our club field once the weather is decent. IT IS VERY REWARDING. And as expected we've got the members who comment it is not bringing in new young members. Those of us who volunteer/donate to the program (WHICH COSTS THE CLUB NOTHING) pretty much ignore them... It's something we enjoy and don't expect anything from it. We do have 3/4/5 old members (70+) who come out and watch the flying day and the glowing smile on their faces and the faces of the kids is all the reward we need 🤣🤣🤣. It's been pretty much the same both years. 1/2 the kids are all in first thing they get to the field, 1/4 are on the fence and embrace it once we get started, the other 1/4... well they participate. Teacher has told us both times, "its the same in the classroom". However both classes have said the same thing, "best field trip the have ever had for school". Feeding them burgers probably helps 😜😜😜. We do post frequently to Facebook and that is getting us some hits to our club page for older (30's/40's/50's) people interested in getting back in or starting anew in the hobby (so maybe the program is paying off 🤪🤪🤪). We get a lot of kudos from random people when we post the high school STEM program stuff. The biggest benefit so far is it has "opened the door" with the local municipalities (City and County). They are now entertaining the ideal of letting us use a parcel of municipal land for our club field. With the condition that youth programs would be free of course. I think another thing that is going to kill clubs is the cost of their flying site if they lease the property as we do... It is 3/4 of our budget annually. Membership is declining because people are literally passing away... 😕😕😕. If we cannot establish a deal with our local municipality in the next 3/4 years I don't know how we will survive unless we double/triple our dues. Catch 22 there though, dues get to high and members will bail for that as well...

  • @supaoranges1086
    @supaoranges1086 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I gotta say you got that hobby store part right on the head. Literally how I got into the hobby as a kid.

  • @user-mc2um9fv8p
    @user-mc2um9fv8p Před 7 měsíci

    as a thirteen-year-old myself, I love flying RC airplanes, but I always don't have a large place to fly. There are no hobby shops nearby because they all went out of business. All of my friends had RC cars, but they just don't use them. I would love to have a large field to fly in, but the best I have is my school field. Love your work keep going strong.

  • @Wingwalker_aviation
    @Wingwalker_aviation Před 9 měsíci

    Model airplanes is what started my fascination with aviation. I started flying models probably around 8years old, some of my best memories were flying with the guys at the model field. Landing at night for the first time with minimal lights. Flying by myself for the first time, they did the whole solo thing cut the back of my shirt off.
    All the guys were always very supportive and helpful with me teaching me aerodynamics and why different alterations of the models were effective. I’ve always loved the model airplane community and it’s what got me started in flying.

  • @christinawells4160
    @christinawells4160 Před 10 měsíci +1

    36 and started with a guillows balsa kit. Always had an interest in the ww2 warbirds. Mastering the agility of a fighter really helps the enjoyment factor i was surprised when i flew my first Cub as the high wing adds stability but costs you agility. My daughter (12) has flown several cubs and a b-17.

  • @pietersnackaert
    @pietersnackaert Před 10 měsíci +1

    6:10 Had that exact experience when i was a couple years younger, got to a hobby shop originally for model train stuff, found a cheap plane that looked alr. The employee asked if it was the first one and refused to sell it even tho i had experience with racing drones. Well nowadays im still up in the air with racing drones but cant find any budget planes, yes you have flighttest but shipping it to Europe is a no-go for me.

  • @JohanFasth
    @JohanFasth Před 10 měsíci +2

    Nothing beats the fun and educational experience while building from plain balsa and ply planks.

  • @mehmetsaimbasaran1715
    @mehmetsaimbasaran1715 Před 6 měsíci

    Hello, I am 13 years old and I find what you say very true. The people around me say to my father, "Why are you working so hard with this child? They say that the child will fail his classes and let him go and study." And my father gets angry about this. My father is also an RC hobby enthusiast. He instilled in me and now he is the best and smallest child in Turkey.I am an RC airplane pilot and I will never give up this hobby. Yes, it has some difficulties, but the pleasure I get when I build that indoor plane myself and fly it is a great feeling.

  • @PhilTheFrog66
    @PhilTheFrog66 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I (14) built a plane out of foam board with my dad after seeing some CZcams vids. It was a lot of fun to do together, but because of how complicated/confusing getting and understanding the electronics and not many places near me that have people in the hobby I stopped after I crashed the first one cuz of improper servos. I’ve got more free time now tho so I think I’ll give it another shot. Great vid btw

  • @tommymilton3203
    @tommymilton3203 Před 10 měsíci

    Wonderfully done.
    I was reminiscing just today about being around the house on Saturday and hearing the roaring whine of U line airplanes doing "combat" in the vacant lot down the block.
    I sold all occasion cards and earned a Thimbledrone 049 u line plane.
    65 years later, and I still fly an RC airplane.
    Airplanes led to a great time in the Civil Air Patrol, the best kept secret in aviation. Keep up the good work!

  • @sport2175
    @sport2175 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Flying a foamy at a neighbourhood park a kid ran up to me very excited. He was there with his dad they both were interested. Thinking back I should have had a second transmitter and a buddy cord and offered to let them fly my plane. I believe I can teach people to fly RC. That was a missed opportunity for me to maybe bring two people in to the hobby

  • @My2cents860
    @My2cents860 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video! Lots of great points. My club does a excellent job encouraging new members. There are also a few members that hold demonstrations at local schools for STEM programs. Model airplanes really teaches great values. Keep up the great work and love seeing those subs going up so quickly. Proof you guys are doing something right! 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Speedycat
    @Speedycat Před 10 měsíci

    i got into it at age 11 with a Silverlit X-Twin Plane back in 2007 and never stopped from there. My Dad enabled that hobby by buying us all kinds of broken/used stuff of auctions (like Ebay but from my country). Building and fixing Models is half the fun. You don't need the latest and greatest to have fun, especially if you fly or live far enough away from civilisation, an old MHz Transmitter still does a good job and can be obtained for pennies. Brushed Motors also spin and fancy AS3X Stuff is not required to fly.
    i used to have a Hobbyzone Aerobird Xtreme with it's stock radio but a 2S3P Li-Ion Battery that we soldered up from a unused Laptop Battery, surely not the most ideal thing but it increased my flight time to 40 Minutes from a meager 10 Minutes with the original NiCD Brick at the cost of 0$.
    It's more possible than ever, to get into RCing for cheap, but the interest to tinker is required.

  • @deldridg
    @deldridg Před 10 měsíci

    I'm a dad and my son and I scratch built and flew a high wing a few years back. He's a busy lad with school and sports but loves the RC world and doing something "real" - not the virtual world his mates seem to enjoy. It certainly takes a parent to be involved, especially at the 11 to 14yo age range IMHO. Cheers and great to be thinking along these lines. Dave (Sydney)

  • @lamaranderson3048
    @lamaranderson3048 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Another banger my dudes!
    I Juss got this lil kid in my complex into the planes.
    Begged his dad for a month and now he’s gone from the sport cub to the aeroscout 1.2
    We mustn’t stop until every family in America flys rc planes and drives rc cars 😂
    See y’all next week!

  • @ThatGuyWhoFanDubs
    @ThatGuyWhoFanDubs Před 9 měsíci

    I bought my first ARF at age 12. My dad helped me pay for parts and assemble the model. He spent HOURS of his time driving me to the field, teaching me to fly on a buddy box sacrificing his own stick time to help me learn. Without his 100% dedication to see me succeed I wouldn't be in this hobby today. Im 32 and have kids of my own now, I really hope this is a hobby I can pass down to at least one of my children.

  • @smallscalemotoring
    @smallscalemotoring Před 10 měsíci +2

    1. Video content does work and it's true that the AMA should be doing way more. I'm proof because it was this channel that got me interested in RC planes. (great videos btw)
    2. I have the privilege of being the "young guy" at my club. I'm 35 😂😂

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci

      oof, relatable, I'm 35 too and virtually every RCer I've met has been double my age

  • @lawrence.ap28
    @lawrence.ap28 Před 10 měsíci

    I was extremely fortunate as a 13 year old to find almost zero issue entering the hobby aside from pushback from my parents every time I want to buy another plane with my own money. We have a really close field and the rules are simple, just a north boundary we know to avoid and common sense like announce your pattern, takeoffs, landings, etc., don’t fly over the pits and don’t be stupid. The membership is relatively cheap and everyone at the field was really kind and welcoming. A lot of the older guys actually think I fly very well and love to help out.

  • @The_Hofol
    @The_Hofol Před 10 měsíci +1

    I just recently got into the RC Aircraft hobby not too long ago. My first plane was this cheap $40 Chinese white label SU-35 I got off amazon on impulse. No wing control, no rudder, just 2 small props on the back of the wings and a controller the size of a potato. My first time flying it, I went to my local park and my only goal was to throw it, turn it around and fly it back to me. About 10 crashes later (I crashed it about 30 times that day, twice stuck in a tree, and still took it home in one piece, never once did I manage to have a landing that wasn't a crash) I managed to pull the 180.
    Now I'm not a kid, I'm a woman with autism in her early 20s, but I felt like I conquered the world. Just by turning a $40 plane around. I immediately started looking for another, better plane.

    • @rcbinchicken
      @rcbinchicken Před 10 měsíci

      Mad respect to you for staying in the hobby off of one of those horrible 2-channel 2-motor things - trust me, it only gets easier from here. 😆The only ready-to-fly plane I ever bought was one of those and I swear, it was harder to fly than all the inept, tail-heavy, self-designed scratchbuilds I learned on! Did you find a better plane? If so, what kind?

  • @lukeportelli2097
    @lukeportelli2097 Před 10 měsíci

    Around 8 years ago, at the school library, there was a book about aircraft. Being intrested in aircraft and ships was always a thing. What this particular book had, was a page on how to build a glider and another one about a simple rubber powered helicopter. By then I was building static model aircraft out of lamina, tape and markers, but none for flying. That book sparked an intrest into Free Flight. So I started experimenting with whatever materials was around. Of course, having an aircraft made out of cardboard, lamina and tape results in a brick. Gliders made of lamina and in smaller scale fared more better and stronger. Still, I was longing for an aircraft that could fly longer, and higher. So my parents took me to an old Hobby store and bought me an R/C Piper cub, and a gillows rubber powered Jetstream, which I cherished more. The Piper didn't last long before I crashed it and broke the wing. The Jetstream lasted a little longer until the prop bearing broke. After that I continued to build. By 2016, I was building aircraft from your average party foam plates and by the summer of 2017, tape was no longer used in construction. Instead, I went on to use Glue, so to lighten the aircraft. From that moment onward, many aircraft were built, but only a few passed. By 2019, with a fleet of around 30 aircraft, balsa wood was discovered, but it was too late, for after more than 5 years of bad luck, I gave up, and moved on to Free Sailing. The reasons for the change was 1: hobbie stores were I live (Which is Malta) are almost non existent. Sure, there are a shop or two, but none cater for free flight, not even for free sailing. Sourcing materials like Rubber, wheels and props, all had to come from outside. 2: The fields I used to go was in the golf course and another full of rocks. There aren't any areas to go except for two R/C fields, which are too small and certain that only members can enter. And 3: Even after converting to foam and glue, almost all the aircraft I built failed to fly, no matter how hard I tried to build them according to the plans, and countless hours of watching CZcams and browsing the Internet, Bad luck was most of the time around the corner. In the end, I only had a few aircraft to be proud of, but they didn't last. Im 19 now, and now facing the same dilemma on free sailing. I recently moved my "shipyard" from the same place I spent countless hours building those birds. Sometimes, I wonder if I should close up the shop. Just like the lack of fields, only after a fine gale could I ever watch my hard work do its thing. In that sector, I also suffer from bad luck. This video had said about the same things that I had experienced before. I was around 13 when I was interested, and even to this day I am longing to build one more bird.

  • @LucasBraun-wr4tr
    @LucasBraun-wr4tr Před 8 měsíci

    I am a teenager at the moment and have been flying in a park behind my backyard for 4-5 years, i recently have gotten into building and flying bigger models that cant fly in the smaller park behind my house, so I checked out my local flying field, my first impressions were bad when I brought my planes there and someone who I think was the safety officer told me I couldn't fly withought an AMA card even though it was the public flight training night. I got an AMA card and am now a member of the club and most of the people at the club seem to be happy that there is a younger person at the field. They are also interested in my creations that I bring to the field that shouldn't fly but somehow do. This video rang true a couple times but I am now happy that I joined my local flying club and I have so far had a good expierence.

  • @stormcamper3618
    @stormcamper3618 Před 10 měsíci

    Im 17 and I started with the hobby 7 years ago at a local modelling club ,I built my first rc glider and after that I would have probably quited but the thing that kept me in the hobby was the opportunity to compete at local competitions and eventualy I endet up competing in the FAI competitions like F3K (discus launch gliders) and FAI Space modelling so in my opinion the competition would give a lot of kids one more reason to eventually stay in the hobby because it gives a balance between having fun with flying and eventually having the adrenaline that a lot of kids need

  • @possiblytaken7942
    @possiblytaken7942 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love you guys Tail Heavy. Tail Heavy > Flight Test

  • @ethanplaysroblox6253
    @ethanplaysroblox6253 Před 6 dny +1

    I’m a 12 y/o right now, I have a small foam RC F35B and I’m about to get my first cheap 31$ Chengdu J-20 EDF
    Edit:I’m about to be able to get my own kit! My dad has a whole workshop, and loads of foam! I’m gonna print out a plane silhouette and watch some videos on CZcams on how to bind controls, make servos, and how to make EDF planes, then I’m gonna put foam on the printed papers and cut it along the lines, then smooth it out to my shape :D

  • @kentbarnes1955
    @kentbarnes1955 Před 10 měsíci +1

    A nicely balanced, well produced video. Thank you. (FYI, I'm an old geezer that pretty much matches your description of "how a youth gets into RC"). My hope is to inspire my "grand kids" into trying this hobby (alas I failed to do so with my kids...although I did have 1 sone who did some flying and actually soloed after practicing on an RC Simulator for a couple month). Thanks again.

  • @gqp4800
    @gqp4800 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Started on cox string plane. Raced tenth scale cars on road foams carpet ten years. Still have all of it. 27 and 72 Mhz. Drones now. 66 and an faa non complier, mountains,no one here. Master machinist. Build my own everything with the finest Chinese electronics and cheapest 😊

  • @S50Sinner
    @S50Sinner Před 10 měsíci +1

    It doesn't help that the old guard tend to push their way of doing things as the right way. When I started as a middle schooler, the local club told my dad to buy a glow/balsa trainer and it was really intimidating, both in size, power and cost. It could chop my fingers off on startup and do some serious damage if crashed, not to mention that it would splinter into a thousand pieces. I needed an instructor in order to fly it, and wouldn't even dare try a landing approach myself. The worst part is I didn't even get to build the plane, we paid the instructor to do that.
    Result: I flew once, before giving up on ever finding a time that my dad could drive me over an hour to the club+ and the instructor would be available.
    Now in my 20s, I'm trying to reconnect with the hobby through an electric foamy that actually looks like a real plane and it's infinitely easier and more fun. I can fly it alone with confidence that I won't kill anyone, the airframe just bounces when it crashes and the electric motor simply stops if it falls flat on its nose. I've recovered it from a tree with absolutely no functional damage, and bent the landing gear back into shape multiple times.

  • @Jonathan.D
    @Jonathan.D Před 10 měsíci +1

    When I lived in FL I went to the local field because I was in my 20s and finally had enough money to buy an RC airplane. When I got there, I realized that I was the only person under 65 and not retired. They didn't want younger people or adults with kids at their field. I'm in CO now and figured we would check out the local field. It's almost the same story here too. They will let younger people become members and fly. However, younger members and people they don't like have to fly on the side of the field that's in a blackout area caused by the nearby regional airport. I literally watched a new member crash a brandnew plane that literally just fell uncontrollably out of the sky. I went to several hobby stores in the city and they all confirmed what I had already been told. To make matters worse you have to $10 a day at the state park(or $150 per year) plus you have to pay for a membership to fly at the field. The day we were there they actually asked us for a donation to help them with the maintenance of their field. If I want to have a group of people shun me while talking about me behind my back, I'll go back to high school.
    Ended up buying a foamy for my kids to fly at the local soccer fields. That's way more fun. Rules pfffft

    • @TailHeavyProductions
      @TailHeavyProductions  Před 10 měsíci +1

      That’s so frustrating. Sorry to hear it.

    • @Jonathan.D
      @Jonathan.D Před 10 měsíci

      @@TailHeavyProductions Your videos are the reason we didn't give up. My kids are always inspired by the cool creations. I enjoy how you are able to see things as they truly are.
      I'm reminded of that movie Mr Baseball when Tom Selleck's character says "Baseball is a game and games are meant to be fun."
      In your video you basically said RC planes are toys and toys are meant to be played with to have fun. So why are some people trying to keep all the fun for themselves.
      That is the truth!

  • @cedricsiebenaler9517
    @cedricsiebenaler9517 Před 10 měsíci

    22 year old guy here , and i can absolutely agree with every single point in this video.
    during high school i almost lost connection to the hobby but i kept myself in the hobby by trying at least one new rc plane per year.
    At my club all people are old and not really youth friendly. So what i d like most is someone who would go flying with me that is around my age. i have a friend who drives rc cars and , it connects us eventhough planes and cars are 2 completely different things
    so if you are around luxembourg and looking for a flying buddy
    hit me up

  • @Zytron
    @Zytron Před 10 měsíci +1

    I rarely flew my plane until recently because my parents had to take me, and they were always so busy and only getting more busy, and I had less and less opportunities to go. But then I got my driver's license and started going whenever I could, which was still not too often because of school. Then I finished my last year of school and I'm out there flying every day the wind is under 10mph. I've probably gone to the airfield more times in the past 6 months than I had in the 3-4 years before that.

  • @possibleproblem479
    @possibleproblem479 Před 10 měsíci

    when i was a kid i was super into rc anything. i was your typical kid with a bunch of broken airhogs and begging my parents for more to which they would resupply every christmas or birthday.
    one day my dad took me and my brother to an rc airshow not far out of town. i instantly fell in love. there were so many really cool planes from jets to nitro powered WWII to early cold war props to model utility aircraft. I'll never forget the A-1 skyraider they had that used fully functional turboprop engines.
    from then on i wanted a nice rc plane so badly. of course the ones i wanted were hundreds of dollars but i still kept saving my allowance. eventually on my 14th birthday my mom surprised me with a horizon sport cub s. that plane has been through so much; crash after crash and visit after visit to the local hobby shop it still flies today.
    i was never able to really pursue this hobby simply because of how expensive it is. but one day i might be able to afford some nice ones, who knows.

  • @user-wd1vj8dx5w
    @user-wd1vj8dx5w Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a 12 year old kid it's really fun to build your own plane and it really takes a lot of time when I am not doing my homework.

  • @WeekendFPV9876
    @WeekendFPV9876 Před 10 měsíci

    Im 12 and love the hobby, love chatting about models and learning more from people at my flying club! Also learning more skills on aerobatics! I started with a UMX Timber X learned simple aerobatics with is then did lots of work and the neighborhood and at home bought 2 more UMX planes to fly at my local park, then got a deal on a Timber X 1.2m that needed work, got it flying 3 months ago and still fly it to day, also have a Areoscout and a consendo Evo

  • @scottthewaterwarrior
    @scottthewaterwarrior Před 9 měsíci

    Being able to buy a RDF plane off the shelf is actually what was able to get me into the hobby. Though now that it has seen a lot of use I am running into the issue of maintenance and have no idea what I am doing, so I haven't flown for a long time.