Comparing 3 Down Jackets at 3 Different Price Points
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Taking a look at the REI Co-op 650 Down Jacket 2.0, the Patagonia Nano Puff, and the Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisperer 2. I tested each down jacket in the Idaho backcountry and you'll see examples of each jacket being put to the test in all sorts of weather conditions. I found each one had benefits, but one was the clear winner.
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1:17 REI Co-op 650 Down Jacket 2.0
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sold my ghost whisperer....i use a 50$ decathlon down jacket now and love it
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@@JonConti I watched the video and love that jacket and was wanting to know if you could wear it to armwrestle or rub back to back with a guy like you wearing one to
So much supporting footage. Great all round review, thank you!
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I just picked up a Nano Puff a couple of weeks ago. I'm liking it so far. Your outdoors video footage is really nice. Good job.
Thanks!
just picked up the stretch down hoodie from MH. All these are fantastic but man that stretch down is amazing. Also the Alpine design 650 down is incredible. Especially If you have a slightly larger shoulder width! With a price point of 100 USD as well!
Nice! Thanks for the info!
Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Gear review seems like a natural side channel for you and your travels. Would love to see some gear reviews on fuel cells, stoves, meals, sporks, etc...
Thanks Bret, I have a full series on food and meals I’m doing this winter with my Mom. We just got off the trail and we were eating sushi on day 4 I swear! She’s incredible at it. But ya gonna go real in depth with her on how to do food. Martha Stewart style
Just got the Eddie Baur Microthe rm 2.0. It looks good but eh for warmth. That being said I'm an alpine hiker so it's freezing conditions w high winds. It's definitely not bad tho
Decathlon Trek 100 for less than $100 is a much better option in this comparison. One of the warmest down with hood. Warmer than any brand in the Under $200 class all the way to -5c
I'll check it out
Keep the great videos coming :-) Just a quick question. If u had to choose between 225 g of 90/10 duck down with 750 cuin fill power or 115 g 90/10 goose down with 800 cuin fill power from the same brand. which one would u go for to keep u warm leaving everything else aside. Just warmth? What temp do u think the later could withstand? Appreciate a reply mate. Many thanks in advance.
Zippers. It takes extra time and skilled work to install the YKK zippers correctly. Zippers fail on the cheaper coats because they rarely get them installed just right at the beginning of the run where you start it. Poster is absolutely right about Patagonia gear, even if the zipper breaks you can send it in and they have a repair shop. Happy trails!
just got the ghost whisper 2 at the employee store (it was a public week) for $125 I'm so stoked!
Damn for $125!? That’s a steal
@@JonConti right! couldn't pass that up
@@austinoutd00rs what's the difference in the original GW and the new one? They look the same to me.
@@dextermorgan1 I believe it’s just a higher warmth rating
I recently bought a Patagonia down sweater and I have to roll up the sleeves. It's OK though. It's like wearing a little sleeping bag. $157 at Patagonia on sale. LOL
I love my North Face Thermoball, it's warmer and better then the Nano puff believe me!
What would you suggest Patagonia Nano Puff or Hoody?
I got original GW when they were blowing out stock for GW2, and I have been in love!
But yes same mental thing, always worried about damaging it, so been looking for more durable synthetic options to diversify the offerings. Nana puff, Atom, etc. Would have liked to see you do more comparisons apples to apples like all synthetic comparisons are all down comparisons not mixing them together
These things are expensive! Maybe one day when REI sponsors me I can do more apples to apples comparisons but for now I gotta work with what I got!
If my size is S should I take a jacket a size more like M ?
Is your nano puff the adobe color?
The other thing is how does it fare after miles and miles of hiking with the backpack shoulder straps rubbing on the jacket shoulders?
So far so good
Bought a Hugo boss at 70% off at 150$ and I love it.
Hey Jon, I was skeptical about the synthetic but finally convinced. How tall are you and what size do you wear on the Nano Puff? TIA
Hello my friend, does GHOST WHISPERER/2™1000 keep you warm? What kind of jacket is it?
I had to go check out the Patagonia Nano puff after watching this. But, I wasn't sure about the fitting. Should I think about going up or down a size at all? Thank you.
I own one too and it fits me snug, but I prefer it that way for my more fashionable choices. However, having it compress because of its tighter fit is bad for insulation.
I also own a different puffy that is a size up and I prefer to use that one for chillier back-country weather because I can layer underneath as much as needed.
If you want to get more insulation out of your puffy, then sizing up will allow it to expand and attain more of its insulatory properties. But if you live in warmer weather or prefer more snug fits, then not sizing up is fine.
Good video! Quick question. I’m stuck between the nano puff hood and the down sweater hoody. I live in Lake Tahoe so it does snow quite often. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thanks
The Nano Puff is water resistant, I still wear mine. But personally either one you choose I would also get a rain shell for when it's snowing.
@@JonConti Awesome thank you for the reply!
Thanks for the info Jon “REI” Conti.
Hahahaha! I’m trying to get that sponsorship
@@JonConti I was just at REI this morning to pick up an item, didn’t see you there. Prior to going to REI, I met Scott Marchant at the Boise Farmers Market and purchased his Sawtooth book. Last week my wife and I visited Petit and Redfish lakes for the first time. We also hit all the Hemingway spots as you and Chad highlighted in your video.
Nice jacket man! Is the Hardwear Ghost Whisperer 2 jacket as shiny on the surface as it appears in the video? I want to grab the Hardwear Ghost Whisperer 2 Vest. It only comes in black which is fine, but it does appear to have shiny surface on it.
O ya, the Ghost is shiny as hell! Not sure if I like that 😆
You tested the jacket. So you absolutely don’t like shininess of it? It definitely looks very shiny in certain lighting conditions. I found the vest on sale, like at 50% off.
A hood makes a jacket much warmer. Unless your layers have too many hoods, get a hood!
lol, no don't get a hood! Your other jackets will have hoods and a beanie works 100x better! 😀 I'm just teasing, it's all just personal preference.
A bit surprised you did not mention Montbell Plasma 1000 which is the gold standard when it comes to down and light. My Plasma weighs 4.9 ounces and it replaces my Patagonia jacket. If I was going synthetic I would go with the Enlightened Equipment jacket. It’s super light and made in the USA. I am pretty sure the Patagonia jacket is made in some far away place. I am an UL backpacker and weight is king.
dude the montbell is literally 0.4oz lighter than the ghost whisperer for roughly $200 more. he didn't mention it because he's not a sucker with buyers remorse trying to justify an extremely unnecessary purchase.
@@idhatemet00 I have never paid anywhere near full price for any of their products. I will go on their website and wait for them to sell at close out prices. They are still expensive but substantial less. Problem is if you don’t check often enough they have limited sized available. I am older and do a lot of long distance backpacking so weight is very important to me and their products are top notch. I agree I would never pay full price for their products. Take care
had 5 of these so called iron clad nano puffs and returned every one of them. It was getting annoying that the threads always catch on branches and twigs and pull out and not to mention just walking from the office to my car was enough to pull several out on my sleeves. I think somehow they are not well made in the seems. Warm enough for fall maybe but i froze in Midwest winters with this jacket on. For the price of 229 id except a lot more. The down sweater was great but the pockets were not as warm as the nano and left my hands cold always.
I haven't had that problem. There are literally shots in the video of me walking through bramble with it.
which lake is that at 1:45?
That’s the next video 🙂
Goat Lake
Nano Puff is down?!
Hood for me is essential….
To each their own
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Yes Patagonia is the shit
For sure
You are absolutely wrong about the hood all those jackets they need Hood removable or not removable.
4:48 - 4:58 is incorrect. Down fill actually ranges from about 400 to 950. 650 is solidly in the middle.
"Basically down ranges usually from about 650 to 900, 950." We're talking down jackets for backpacking here not down comforters. Type in down jackets for backpacking on google and see what range they fall in.
@@JonContiok.. this is the result I got:
Down Jacket Fill Power Ratings:
Fill PowerRating
400 - 450 Medium
500 - 550 Good
550 - 650 Very Good
700 onwards Great
"When you look at average down jackets you can buy today, you’ll notice that most of them are insulated with 550-650 fill power down. That’s kind of like the best middle ground"
@@silentsir2446 yeah, but who really goes out to get a 500fp jacket? The best synthetics are at the equivalent of around 650fp. For a premium piece 700fp is cutting corners.
@@cannibalmanimal2336 apparently plenty of ppl buy 500 fill jackets, or they wouldnt still be on the market. Unless you live in the antarctic, for reasonable fill power, anything over 800 is overkill.
@@silentsir2446 of course they do, because it’s cheaper. Just like duck down & cheap down/feather blends. Higher quality performs better.
Onzes? When I heard onzes I just stopped watching. Nobody is using onzes in this world, just the Amish. Adieu!
To spend that much just keeps the ceos laughing. My fav puffer was $20