There was no what if. The governor was worse than Negan because his marbles were actually lost. There's a reason the episode is called too far gone. Remember Martinez told him "there's some things you can't come back from", and he was right. The governor did too much to turn back now. We're talking about the same man that slaughtered his own people after they refused him. The governor tried to change, but he couldn't escape his true self. That's why he said "liar" after Rick's speech.
People really think Negan was a better villian, Negan was only a good villian in the last episode of season 6 and the first of season 7. After that Negan was just written like a duce.
@@noexceptions8438 The way he expressed his body language I don't think he was lying in that particular moment. I think he actually meant what he said there remember that this is Season 4 so relatively early in the series and apocalypse for them
@@noexceptions8438 Well yeah virtually everyone on this show has lied hundreds of times I was just pointing out that in this specific scene he seems genuine atleast for the moment.
I mean unless you count Shane as a villain (some do, some don’t ) But Shane and Rick definitely could have worked out. Especially had Rick didn’t lie and made Shane out the gun down and told them they should part ways.
Could you imgaine if the entire show was about the power of friendship and they convinced every "villian" to join them and they kill all the zombies and restore the world.
Loved the what if scenario. It would change a lot of plot elements though. If Hershel didn't die he could've helped Rick through his crazy faze in Season 5 just like he did in Season 3. I feel like The Savior's being killed in their sleep in Season 6 could've been avoided and a stronger reasonable plan could've worked instead of going off one group word. Yes, Abraham, Sasha, and Daryl were attacked in mid Season 6 but I still believe a different route would've been proposed to take care of the saviors instead of shooting up one of the bases. The Saviors were after Dwight not Rick's group in mid-season 6. Most likely had orders to shoot any incoming non Savior vehicles especially if they have a gigantic horde of walkers behind them. However I believe eventually The Savior's would've made their harsh debut in the show. If The Governor somehow came back from his sociopathic ways I believe he would've been a strong minded person to strategize a way to counter The Saviors once they made the forceful deal on Rick's group. His past ideologies of betrayal can be used in this situation, like following Negan's commands then just ambushing the Saviors just like how he did with the army group in Season 3. However though my whole paragraph is too unrealistic for a world like The Walking Dead. The Governor definitely couldn't have come back he shot down his own army just because they were reasonably resisting his orders. The Governor's group didn't even draw on him he drew on them. Unfortunately Hershel's death and the invasion of the Prison was to remind us of the cruel world that the show takes place in. It's messed up but almost realistic.
I love the governor, in fact he’s one of my favorite characters in the series and it would be cool to see the governor and rick take out terminus. But if the Governor joined I bet you he would only do it to take over like what he did to Martinez's group( the governor I don’t think likes being under peoples control so he’d likely try and take over). If the governor were to successfully take over ricks group idk if he would stay at the prison or do a crusade to take as much territory as possible but in the end he'd likely make a group stronger than every group shown aside from the CRM for obvious reasons with a potential member count of between the saviors or the commonwealth due to the fact he made a group with a similar member count to Hilltop in the first year of the apocalypse. Overall The Governor with the extra 11 years that the walking dead timeline lasts would be extremely powerful in every form and maybe too strong for current group to handle
Yeaa governor wins mans was crazy wit the hands destroyed 2 walkers bare handed and took a warehouse full of them on and escaped beat merle beat rick yea governor def beats negan, negan kept struggling against rick and could barely even handle zombie sasha
The ending doesn't make sense. Why would Daryl make him leave, he almost died fighting Negan and even went in head first on the attack of the Sanctuary. Doesn't make much sense. Also this kind of leaves a few unanswered plotholes, where is Hershel, how does the Prison get overrun? Etc.
This is awesome. I wasn't expecting this to be an actual edit, just a discussion, but you pulled it off excellently. If I could suggest an idea, how about "What if Rick killed Negan?".
This is the video I’ve wanted for a long time I asked creators to cover this but you beat them thanks for this 🔥 it’s a topic that needs to be talked about because many tragedies would have been avoided if they had teamed up earlier
If governor did turn it out to be a good guy with our group. There wouldn’t be really Negan arc. Because of his personality and strategy, there would be no chance for Negan to fight back. In my opinion, Governor actually had some part of smart strategies than Rick does. Is just he’s probably easy get lost than Rick…
“The governor would have destroyed Negan, I love them both but that is the truth.” - Lorenzo Feliziani “Nah! Negan still has the numbers. You can’t even get anywhere Negan unless he wants you to. The guy was like the bogeyman. A name whispered in the wind like Candyman, until he wanted you to meet him. Shane was badass, the governor was menacing, Negan in the tv show looked at the group’s muscle(Abraham) and had him on his knees like he wanted head. It would of been the same for Shane. It would of been the same for the governor. Negan had the numbers.” - me
@@Loophole23742 yeah I was saying if the governor would have been against negan on one on one, and if the governor had the same negan's numbers the show would have been over, he wouldn't wait all that time risking is own people, he would have gone to all of the cities and kill them all.
If he joined Rick’s group, and things had worked out like Rick said. Then everyone would tell the Governor’s people what he did and it would contradict everything he had said up until that point. He was too far gone
Never happen. The Governor was a sociopath that stabbed everyone in the back and betrayed them. Rick was a fantastic leader and a good man that tried to do the right thing, despite making mistakes sometimes.
🤷 Don’t think it would of made much difference if the something to fear arc still plays out. Negan still has the numbers. You can’t even get anywhere Negan unless he wants you to. The guy was like the bogeyman. A name whispered in the wind like Candyman, until he wanted you to meet him. Shane was badass, the governor was menacing, Negan in the tv show looked at the group’s muscle(Abraham) and had him on his knees like he wanted head. It would of been the same for Shane. It would of been the same for the governor. Negan had the numbers.
Always wondered what'd happen, and I always fantasized about it considering Gov is my favourite villain and the Prison always has a special place in my heart. Sadly, it obviously was never gonna happen considering The Governor slipped back into his old ways...
Yeah I hate the governor Because I liked Hershel and he just killed him. [edit] also he killed Merle and he was an alright character Negan is my favourite character
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There was no what if. The governor was worse than Negan because his marbles were actually lost. There's a reason the episode is called too far gone. Remember Martinez told him "there's some things you can't come back from", and he was right. The governor did too much to turn back now. We're talking about the same man that slaughtered his own people after they refused him. The governor tried to change, but he couldn't escape his true self. That's why he said "liar" after Rick's speech.
thats cool and all but what if
🤓
People really think Negan was a better villian, Negan was only a good villian in the last episode of season 6 and the first of season 7. After that Negan was just written like a duce.
Jesus Christ dude you have no imagination
This is an absolute "ackchyually ☝🤓 " moment.
Answer: Things would be real awkward between Governor and Maggie
You mean like negan and maggie
@@callumbus7690 Negan didn't almost rape her like governor did...
@@pedobear8071 no Just murdered her husband infront of her
@@callumbus7690 Nah you don't know why lol 🤣
@@miharbi.narmi1 *unzipping noises*
rick was willing to forgive the govenor even after causing Andreas death and Merle, but not negan at first.
Rick was lying as usual
@@noexceptions8438 The way he expressed his body language I don't think he was lying in that particular moment.
I think he actually meant what he said there remember that this is Season 4 so relatively early in the series and apocalypse for them
@@user-bt8xr5si9y Rick still has lied to save his own ass before this happened... Cough cough Shane
@@noexceptions8438 Well yeah virtually everyone on this show has lied hundreds of times I was just pointing out that in this specific scene he seems genuine atleast for the moment.
@@noexceptions8438 i lied then proceeds to shoot them in the head with his revolver. classic rick grimes move lol
The govenor grew his eye back??!!
4:20 i like the governor remembering
Glenn's and abraham's deaths with rage, it's like he truly had a Bond with the group.
That would have been amazing
Damn man this would’ve been great because the governor was actually one of my favorite characters
Probably my favourite aside from maybe Daryl Merle Gabriel and Rick
@@hectorbarbossa4403 Gabes great
I think he should of joined them
Same here.
Concordo com você.
3:40, if The Governor hadn't been completely batshit, I could see this scene happening. A heart to heart from one dictator to another
4:55 rick saving the governor, it's like they're really friends even though he killed some of rick's friends
*Cough* Daryl and Negan *Cough*
This just further demonstrates why Negan is the only villain this ever could have remotely worked with
I mean unless you count Shane as a villain (some do, some don’t ) But Shane and Rick definitely could have worked out. Especially had Rick didn’t lie and made Shane out the gun down and told them they should part ways.
I love the fact that the governor's eye grows back randomly lol
If the governor wasn‘t crazy asf (he kinda is), this would’ve been hella cool.
that would have been cool. the governor and rick would make one hell of a team.
if the governor joined ricks group they would’nt have lost the prison
Could you imgaine if the entire show was about the power of friendship and they convinced every "villian" to join them and they kill all the zombies and restore the world.
"AMC4KIDS"
Nah after whisperer war they learn to tame the zombies and let them roam free
Dragon ball in a nutshell
Negan in a nutshell
Dragon Ball series, even freaking Frieza has been kinda befriended.
Loved the what if scenario. It would change a lot of plot elements though. If Hershel didn't die he could've helped Rick through his crazy faze in Season 5 just like he did in Season 3. I feel like The Savior's being killed in their sleep in Season 6 could've been avoided and a stronger reasonable plan could've worked instead of going off one group word. Yes, Abraham, Sasha, and Daryl were attacked in mid Season 6 but I still believe a different route would've been proposed to take care of the saviors instead of shooting up one of the bases. The Saviors were after Dwight not Rick's group in mid-season 6. Most likely had orders to shoot any incoming non Savior vehicles especially if they have a gigantic horde of walkers behind them. However I believe eventually The Savior's would've made their harsh debut in the show. If The Governor somehow came back from his sociopathic ways I believe he would've been a strong minded person to strategize a way to counter The Saviors once they made the forceful deal on Rick's group. His past ideologies of betrayal can be used in this situation, like following Negan's commands then just ambushing the Saviors just like how he did with the army group in Season 3. However though my whole paragraph is too unrealistic for a world like The Walking Dead. The Governor definitely couldn't have come back he shot down his own army just because they were reasonably resisting his orders. The Governor's group didn't even draw on him he drew on them. Unfortunately Hershel's death and the invasion of the Prison was to remind us of the cruel world that the show takes place in. It's messed up but almost realistic.
I love the governor, in fact he’s one of my favorite characters in the series and it would be cool to see the governor and rick take out terminus. But if the Governor joined I bet you he would only do it to take over like what he did to Martinez's group( the governor I don’t think likes being under peoples control so he’d likely try and take over). If the governor were to successfully take over ricks group idk if he would stay at the prison or do a crusade to take as much territory as possible but in the end he'd likely make a group stronger than every group shown aside from the CRM for obvious reasons with a potential member count of between the saviors or the commonwealth due to the fact he made a group with a similar member count to Hilltop in the first year of the apocalypse. Overall The Governor with the extra 11 years that the walking dead timeline lasts would be extremely powerful in every form and maybe too strong for current group to handle
Carl and Governor (eye patches fighting side by side) would've been great!!!
He would have killed Rick to be in charge or vice versa
I really wish the governor had joined Rick, also in a fair one on one with negan I reckon the governor could take negan
Nah, Negans bigger, badder, and hes got a bat.
Negan has Lucille and his nut sack is made of steel
@@lgcrazygamer6816 David Morrisey is taller than Jeffery Dean Morgan
@@MotherRosie it’s a joke
Yeaa governor wins mans was crazy wit the hands destroyed 2 walkers bare handed and took a warehouse full of them on and escaped beat merle beat rick yea governor def beats negan, negan kept struggling against rick and could barely even handle zombie sasha
People was hating Negan for killing Abraham and Glenn but the real evil here only Governor
True narcissist and psychopath
The ending doesn't make sense. Why would Daryl make him leave, he almost died fighting Negan and even went in head first on the attack of the Sanctuary. Doesn't make much sense. Also this kind of leaves a few unanswered plotholes, where is Hershel, how does the Prison get overrun? Etc.
And we never got went over Maggie’s reaction of having her rapeist Living with them in the same community
Maybe the guy the who made the video should've gotten the entire cast together so they could re-shoot seasons 4-9
@@MotherRosie lmao
This is awesome. I wasn't expecting this to be an actual edit, just a discussion, but you pulled it off excellently. If I could suggest an idea, how about "What if Rick killed Negan?".
This is the video I’ve wanted for a long time I asked creators to cover this but you beat them thanks for this 🔥 it’s a topic that needs to be talked about because many tragedies would have been avoided if they had teamed up earlier
this is crazy good man, keep up the good work!
I literally thought of this and then I found this video. Amazing.
Governor would have possibly joined the council
If governor did turn it out to be a good guy with our group. There wouldn’t be really Negan arc. Because of his personality and strategy, there would be no chance for Negan to fight back. In my opinion, Governor actually had some part of smart strategies than Rick does. Is just he’s probably easy get lost than Rick…
This reminded me of Michonne having her delusion she joined the Saviors and was killed by Rick.
The governor destroy Negan in 1v1
Man I Miss This Show Already. Yeah I Know The Spinoffs Are Coming But Walking Dead Won't Be 100% The Same Again
The reason why the walking dead And prison break are so good is because it shows us enemies can become friends.
It also shows friends can become enemies
Negan would not stand a chance
The governor would have destroyed negan, I love them both but that is the truth
“The governor would have destroyed Negan, I love them both but that is the truth.” - Lorenzo Feliziani
“Nah! Negan still has the numbers. You can’t even get anywhere Negan unless he wants you to. The guy was like the bogeyman. A name whispered in the wind like Candyman, until he wanted you to meet him. Shane was badass, the governor was menacing, Negan in the tv show looked at the group’s muscle(Abraham) and had him on his knees like he wanted head. It would of been the same for Shane. It would of been the same for the governor. Negan had the numbers.” - me
@@Loophole23742 yeah I was saying if the governor would have been against negan on one on one, and if the governor had the same negan's numbers the show would have been over, he wouldn't wait all that time risking is own people, he would have gone to all of the cities and kill them all.
Yeah i agree
That reply was formatted really weird
I think this was a great video I hope to see more like it
This is actually pretty well edited. Kudos to you!
If he joined Rick’s group, and things had worked out like Rick said. Then everyone would tell the Governor’s people what he did and it would contradict everything he had said up until that point. He was too far gone
Deserves a 25th like 👍🏻
very good edit
bro how you only got 38 subs?
I think had this happened Negan would’ve probably picked the governor
Nah would’ve been Abraham then if Daryl punched him it would’ve been him
@@leviwill7Exactly
And they would also have the guy with the tank so Negan would probably be delt with easier
Wow how is this so good?
If only scenarios happened like this
You can't deal with a psychopath!
I Think Rick Grimes and The Governor should work together as brothers
Never happen. The Governor was a sociopath that stabbed everyone in the back and betrayed them. Rick was a fantastic leader and a good man that tried to do the right thing, despite making mistakes sometimes.
Michonne would never allow it .
It would be so nice
Nah u should do what if michonne died instead
🤷 Don’t think it would of made much difference if the something to fear arc still plays out. Negan still has the numbers. You can’t even get anywhere Negan unless he wants you to. The guy was like the bogeyman. A name whispered in the wind like Candyman, until he wanted you to meet him. Shane was badass, the governor was menacing, Negan in the tv show looked at the group’s muscle(Abraham) and had him on his knees like he wanted head. It would of been the same for Shane. It would of been the same for the governor. Negan had the numbers.
Always wondered what'd happen, and I always fantasized about it considering Gov is my favourite villain and the Prison always has a special place in my heart.
Sadly, it obviously was never gonna happen considering The Governor slipped back into his old ways...
God's word is
😂😂😂😂😂😂
what if rick joined woodbury?
It would have been nice
4:58 negan cant wins against governor in hand fight/gun fight
why would they lose the prison?
Umm so how did the prison fall again
Xd
Did anyone realize that when governor went to negans team he magicley got his eye back
unrealistic
I know right, smh. This creator sucks
Yeah I hate the governor
Because I liked Hershel and he just killed him. [edit] also he killed Merle and he was an alright character
Negan is my favourite character
Thanks
Ok
i dont understand the end
Daryl tells the governor to leave
@@C0nscious21 why
@@TvConfusionn for the new governor spin show of course!
No. Just No.