Carnage - Fixing Dad's Ute and Getting It On The Dyno
Vložit
- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- In this episode of Carnage we fix Dad's Ute, and then Scotty runs it on the rollers to set up the new dizzy. Now it's ready to race, will the 318 powered ute runs 12s?
Street Machine Carnage is all about having fun with cars. Sometimes it's serious performance, sometimes it's crazy fun, but it always interesting and done on a budget.
If you wish to send the Carnage team fan mail, mail to:
Street Machine Carnage
Unit 9/3-5 Gilda Ct, Mulgrave VIC 3170
Subscribe to Street Machine for V8-powered good times
secure.whichca....
Street Machine is Australia’s number-one modified car magazine, bringing V8 and six-cylinder powered good times since 1981.
We live for tough street cars, and the guys and girls who use them. Our channel features event coverage from all over Australia, including burnouts, drag racing, dyno competitions, show ’n’ shines and high-quality technical videos.
So follow along as we bring the magazine to life, and remember to check back regularly for new videos. www.streetmachine.com.au
Sign up to our free newsletter: www.whichcar.c....
Facebook | streetma...
Twitter | / streetmachine1
Instagram | / streetmachinemag
TikTok / streetmachinemag
Join the conversation: #streetmachinemag #streetmachinetv
The best sounding and coolest street machine is your Dad's Ute
Scotty, if it we me putting those rocker cover gasket on I'd glue them to the covers, I use contact adhesive glue. That way they stay put when coming off and going on, coz you know it'll be that one time when you just have to quickly rip one off and chuck it back on and it'll piss oil all over the pipes 👌
Oh look, a carb. and dizzy. Like the sighting of a rare animal in the wild...love it!
I love Valiant's. Many decades ago I had two slant six's, a VE and VF. In the mid 70's and early 80's the VF went around Australia 3 times, about a third of it on dirt, station tracks, stock routes, etc. All I did was raise the front one inch by adjusting the torsion bars and whacked on some cheap ($19 at the time) rear overload springs to lift the car an inch and a half and support my mechanics heavy tool box and other gear in the cavernous boot. That car was indestructible.
They just don’t make em like that anymore…
Sad to say
@@FUBAR265 There are many things you can do with a VB can after you've skulled the contents...😄
Not First.
That's how you do it, right? 💁♂
Nice power figure. Torque looks flat and nice area under the curve. Let's see some low 13s with this setup. 🤞 This old school stuff is way more entertaining than 9 second turbo LSs.
such a nice val doing good by it scotty well-done mate ... gotta love the old Valiants
Something right about that ute! Nice and simple and looks like such an honest car! Bet its sweet to eat now! Makes me want to get my VE ute going. Cant wait to see how she does.
Just a tuff street car... who doesn't want that. Well done mate.
I did an experimental 318 build in the early 2000's. We used a 90 over A/polyblock and modified 360 J heads mated to it. It was a somewhat mild for street use build with 10;1 JE custom made pistons. We used a 550 something lift solid lifter mopar performance cam with roller rockers. We put twin 600 holleys on a tunnel ram up top. With just a basic tune it made 292 hp and 272 ft lbs of torque at the rear wheels on 93 octane. It was in a 1964 Dart. It held its own pretty good drag racing. A lot of people were surprised how good it pulled through the RPM range.
Dads ute is probably my favourite car in the carnage fleet, nice figure 👌
Its a sweet noise on the dyno. after you changed the weights in the dizzy . 248 excellent work for ya dads Ute. 🇦🇺👍👍👍👍.
yep, its not always about the final number, its how it gets there thats more important
Thanks Scotty always fun with the oldschool upgrades never had that luxury in the early days it was always spring mods in the dizzy but that mopar sound is worth all the work
Enjoy your drive in your dads ute looking forward to the drag runs
Fully sick bro, that's a lot of spaghetti lol 💪 tuff old rocket
YOU'RE THE BOSS SCOTT👍💥💚LEGEND!!💯❤💛💙
Heck yeah Scotty I LOVED this episode. Bitta old school mixed with modern tuning abilities. 👌 can't wait to see the results
love dad Ute xxxx , But OMG ! taxi lurking in background !!!!
Love the 318. I’m running a mild 318 in my CM. I’m still running stock heads on mine and it made 210hp at the wheels. I’d love to change the heads one day and see what it’ll make?
Fully sik.
Great information on the tuning process. Thanks Scotty. Good luck with your track time.
Man that thing sounds beautiful 😍😍😍
Nice Job Scotty those Morosso blues are good gaskets and last a long time and reusable as long you don’t over tighten them nuts 8 inch pounds only ! Keep your Ryobi away !
Goodluck at the track Scotty 👌🏼
Out of all the cars in your fleet this is my favourite. I may be biased though they are my favourite car!
Scotty in his happy place, nice work, 👍😁
Glad to see dads ute doing the thing again and thanks for the insights on push rods and stuff.
General question (everyone seems to do it), why the tuning on the dyno without airfilter? if youre not chasing a magic number and tuning for general running, wouldn't you prefer to tune as youd drive it (with filter and air-cleaner), potentially picking up any little idiosyncrasies it might create?
Thanks again for the content and showing "how it is", warts and all 🍻
Because I also race it without the filter
Even though she aint a big budget, twin turbo balls out engine- damn if it dont sound nice!
it sounds superb the old man would be proud Scotty well done sir
Shame you couldn’t page up that carby! I love hemi’s beautiful classic ute
Great episode mate. Can relate to those rocker adjustments. I usually ping about an hour into it.
"On today's episode everything doesn't break"
Job mate I would’ve thought it would make more than that to be honest but I bet it’s bloody lovely to drive
It drives great
some nice oldschool tuning tips THX mate
Nothing beats the sound of a old school v8👌
Cool how you change the timing i learn something New there i just love that ute.
Great to see, now with a limited slip for a good high stall launch, mid 12’s should be in reach
That ute sounds so good, would be happy to have that in the garage😀
sounds bloody awesome!!
Your dad would be soooo proud of you !
That thing SOUNDS GREAT !
Sounds great Scotty
Sounds the part bro. Worth the effort.
Awesome as cannot wait to see it run down the quarter
Great work with the pushrods Scotty, and dissy
Dads Ute has inspired me to put a V8 in my own HR Ute… well that and my 186 doesn’t like doing more than 50mph on the highway 😅
I love that model Valiant. It just looks tough!
Crikey!! Just a little bush to change the advance? That's a neat little solution. I remember having to fart arse around with spring rates on the two bob weights to change the curve and bending the stop tab to change max advance on the dizzys for my vehicles.
There are springS as well, but we'll mess with them at the track
Great content, seeing this ute evolve.
I love how you're such a part of Maxx now that you can run your own dyno. Obviously being busy getting turbo taxi together probably doesn't help that!
Saw this cruise past need on the main Rd near your shop earlier this week or late last week. Looks good.
Expensive?
Can't wait to see it run.... Hard
Top work Scotty!! 2 questions ..... How much was the Moroso gasket set and have they lived up to expectation still dry?? And no mexican lap at the end?? You are a tease🤣👍🍻
They were expensive. $50USD I think but so far they have not leaked at all, so worth the money.
Don't know what's wrong, give everything a Wiggle and try again. 🤣 I would be a bit disappointed if I put that much go fast gear into an engine and it didn't put out some decent numbers, all that good gear isn't cheap. If your happy with it that's all that matters. Can't wait to see it back on the track, got some really good results last time so should be interesting.. great work Scotty.
At the end of the day, happiness is what it's about. Big figures are all well and good but all too often people just don't drive big horsepower cars
Nice to see you licked your finger before playing with the Bush Scotty, Better when wet and proves you are a gentleman :-)
Red bush for the win!
Great and apt on Remembrance day . Love the old and new stuff !!
That fuel curve looked 👌
I have a lot of respect for people who mess with distributors. I'm a child of the internet so I binned mine for one that I can map from my phone lol.
It's certainly a dying art. I didn't even get into the advance weight springs, but they're more for the track than the dyno.
No more than 1/2 turn on hydraulic lifter preload… Too much preload may allow the lifter to pump up and hang the valves open. Also, there’s only one way to run the valves. Weather it’s solid or hydraulic. That is, exhaust opening intake closing. Adjust intake right when the exhaust valve begins to open. And adjust the exhaust valve when the intake is about 1/2 to 3/4 closing. 👍
Each engine is different. I'm not having any lifter pump up
The real question is , when will the rest of the underside of the bonnet get the oven cleaner treatment?
Surely a clean bonnet is good for a couple of horse powers? 😂
Thank you Scotty! So few people on YT have the right attitude towards dyno figures. Most people only seem to be interested is some wanker peak power number they are never going to see the moment they close the bonnet. Shits me no end to see these people carry on like clowns, trying to impress you when they are only really lying to themselves. I do however wish you would do dyno runs the way you plan to run it on the street with the air cleaner on. Yes power will be down, but BS power numbers aren't what you get to drive anyway. I would rather see a lower power number and know the AFR is right, than see a higher number and have no clue what the actual AFR is in road trim.
I appreciate in this particular video that you are going backwards and forwards with the dizzy, but you have that really simple click on air cleaner it is only a few seconds to remove each time. Plus dynoing without the air cleaner on you have absolutely no clue whether the air needs are being met or not. It could be running massively lean or rich with the air cleaner in place you are never going to know, it might be gagging for air and you have no clue it has a restriction issue because your not testing the air cleaner as part of the package.
A final pull should be done with the bonnet down. This is the real number you can expect on the street.
I race it with no air cleaner which is why it was off. On the street the power means little
@@STREETMACHINETV and that is a fair point if you race it that way, but don't you want to know what your AFR is the other 99% of the time you drive it on the street?
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering it'll only be richer, so that doesn't worry me
@@STREETMACHINETV it is possible to pick up air flow with an air cleaner on. Granted this is a very rare case, but the shape of the base can sometimes increase flow into the carby neck (like a velocity stack). Have you done runs with and without it on? It may run quicker with it on at lower hp figures. Defusing the air sometimes be beneficial.
This Ute is an awesome thing
It's been fun driving it so much lately
@@STREETMACHINETV yeah for sure it would be
Let's be real, doing skids with an amazing exhaust is all that matter
The big block Chevy Cylinder Head was as if the Lady that made the Coffee was asked to design it on her day off. There was nothing wrong with the smallblock head, they could have just scaled it up like they did with the Chrysler and Ford V8s, but NooOOoo - had to have this Good Port , Bad Port malarky argghh
cool the brapp brapp's are back
Wicked 👍❤️
The engine gremlins thought that they'd play a joke on ya!
I have had good luck gluing the the gasket to the valve cover. with weatherstrip adhesive, applied sparingly just on the cover side. that way when you remove them it stays with the valve cover. I use too use the real thick gaskets on a small block Chevy with solid roller lifters. because of needing to adjust them often.
when I did that I was still getting seepage, the moroso gaskets have worked well.
When are we going to see the lockdown wagon progress Scotty? with the 5.7 Hemi. Great content as usual thanks.
This is the shit I love to watch rather than the cartoon car, will you fix the body and paint eventually?
Fix body and paint on the ute? Eventually. It's a long term goal.
I love this ute series you have done!!! Have to say those Moroso rocker cover gaskets are shit. I was using them on my drag car but the always leak...might the tappet covers but have tired 3 different ones with a range of torque settings and they still leak.
Funny enough they haven't leaked at all, they've been excellent for me.
Great tec and great results scotty
The dyno sounds like my ex boss I’d work OT they would only log and pay me standard hrs
The Ute for drag challenge 🎊 🎉
To the uninitiated, besides Chrysler small block and big Block You can also run adjustable shaft mount rockers on the Ford, Holden, chev, Small Block and Big Block Engines, and possibly a few others.
You can, but you pay extra for the privilege
Need to degrease underneath the bonnet then looks A1 Scotty
Yeah I know
Great work mate! How's your back after leaning over the valvetrain for so long? We would put dad's old 308 Sunbird on ramps then jack the back up to do that, saves you spine and the kids arms aren't long enough to touch anything important...yet!!
Yeah it was painful
@@STREETMACHINETV I offer a large cold drink to getting old my friend! Remember getting old may suck, but it is a privilege denied to many. And to be old and wise, first you must be young and stupid...! My mantra for life!!!
Just thinking, $20 says we could swap stupid adventure stories for hours !!
Nice one I'm looking for old wayfarer atm
hey scotty, i know stuff happens off camera but i didnt se a fuse on the constant 12v for the ignition box. let us know if its an oversight as a fuse in the box wont save you if that wire gets a short.
We used the wire that was originally for the coil. No fuse. The coil now gets power from the ignition box.
@@STREETMACHINETV so the wire direct to the battery though, did you end up removing that?
@@JyveKilla yes
Bit of old school tuning! Not just page up😂
If you could lean the carb out by .3 of an afr I reckon you'd make 250 =]. Are you able to run slightly bigger air correctors? 12.8:1 should be perfectly safe.
It's nice and safe at the moment but we'll see how if goes at the track
Im surprised that for the amount spent, it didn't make even 300hp at the wheels 😢
I've got a similar build. Std 5.2 magnum, mild regrind, china carb intake, 650cfm, EQ heads, to a Getrag 6spd and ranger 8.8/posi 4.10's, 29" tires all in a 88 Dakota.
But now you have me rethinking my cam..
Zane's dyno is a bit of a heart breaker. But yeah I was hoping for a little more. Once I get the auto fixed I'll try a different carry and see if that makes a difference.
@STREETMACHINETV
Thank you Sir for taking the time to respond!
After watching several more episodes on the "Ute", and you winning at the dragstrip, showed me that for you to light up the tires, you must be putting down some good power!
Thanks again. 😊
woohoo
Scotty looks like you were running heavy springs ie advance coming in slower/later, did you try different springs?
It's something I will be experimenting with at the track.
Calling a gasket leak proof is a bit of a leap of faith... It's like calling a computer program unhackable, or a ship unsinkable. You're tempting fate.
I originally thought it was literally a ute built for Scotty's dad... Or someone's dad. Is it?
It was my dad's ute and I building similar to what he would have done
Did the morosso rocker cover gaskets work??
Yes, they're perfect
just needs the salad bowl air cleaner, it'll make more power.
😜👍🇦🇺
That Dyno is just like my ex girlfriend
What it sucks?
😂
Tight?
Scotty did you change retainers at the same time you changed springs? I'm betting it is more likely to be related to a slightly different installed height than the spring pressure. Spring pressure shouldn't alter the range of motion. Although... I am going to have to disagree with myself... If the seat pressure is fairly high and the springs in the hydraulic lifters are on the weak side it could alter the geometry ever so slightly. Not sure on this one. Did you have slightly more pre load on the lifter after the spring change? That would alter geometry.
It’s more to do with the open (compressed) spring pressures and the angles involved with the valve open.
Different springs but same retainers and locks.
@@seanb250 how do you figure that? I think he only changed the springs (no cam change) so total lift should remain the same (unless you run something like Rhodes lifters where they have a tendency to bleed down). When it is on the nose (greatest spring pressure) the likelihood of compressing the lifter is at its greatest (oil pressure dependent) . The only thing this may do is result in lower lift, meaning less angle of momentum / chance of bind.
If it was running without issue before and changing the spring somehow made the problem appear, it could only be something that allows more movement OR the same amount of movement, but starting from a different point. That is what made me wonder about the lifter pre load.
Thinking about it different installed height wouldn't make any difference, because the valve length is the same and the rocker shaft is fixed, unless the rocker was somehow catching the edge of the retainer. But being they are the same retainers and keepers that should mean the same install height anyway. Heavier springs have to be either pushing the spring further into the lifter bucket during operation, or more preload on the lifter to alter the static geometry. Sure is a weird one either way. Must have been so close before.
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering different spring rates, you can compress a spring to the same height and have a lot more pressure “loaded” up pushing back against the rocker, this as well as the pushrod also levering against the adjuster with now more pressure probably broke the adjuster. No extra lift required.
HI SCOTTIE
umm i think it needs a little BLOWER whooop whoooop
If only they still made those kits for Chryslers
@@STREETMACHINETV Ask Harrop for a prototype... 😂
Hey Scotty, did you find BOTH pieces of that broken adjuster???
Yes
Buy a lottery ticket! ;)
It's why my Engines cost so much, and one of the reasons you must Check, and Correct Everything.
Why are you running a Dizzy as opposed to Computer Scotty?
It's an old school car. Sometimes it's nice to leave them old school. Carby and dizzy are a dying art.
What's dad's ute like at the bowser?
13L per 100km or there abouts
@@STREETMACHINETV Well that's the Prius of street machines no point buying a hybrid for the commute. I'm not being a smart arse here that is really good.
@@guyharrison909 except I'm filling up every two days because I have a big commute
Mr Scotty as Chief Pun Officer you are well below your 'thats what she said' quotient for this quarter. Come to my office please.
I'll have to address that, thanks for being it to my attention
You should make 275 shouldn't you???
Different dyno, hi stall converter and bigger tyres all contribute to a lower figure
please Scotty can settle an argument ,town and country and wayfarer ,a fella at work said ones a ute and ones a sedan
Town and country and Wayfarer are both ute models
@@STREETMACHINETV i knew it ,im going to show him so he can jam that into hes pipe and smoke it ,my ol man had a Dodge ute and im sure it said wayfarer on the pillar
You promised us 400 horsepower, way back in part 9! At a conservative estimate, that should be around 320 horsepower at the wheels.
Does it matter what it makes? I could put the stock converter in it, change the wheels and tyres, even put a holley on it. It'll make more power but it won't be as nice to drive. We'll see how it goes on the track.
Shut up Christopher
@@STREETMACHINETV Just put some 13" wheels on the back with some $60 155/70 tires and punch out 500whp to shut him up. 😂👍
A mild 318 was never going to make anywhere near 400hp. But if a number on a page is what you are worried about, then you've completely missed the point of this build.
Uncle tony is building a 318 with the goal of a horse per cube. Except he's only using stock mopar components including the 2 barrel carb. Looking at this build his goals look doubtful.
I am a fellow Australian and I can verify u will never ever reach above 50km
on the next episode of carnage dads ute gets a blow through supercharger....
Mate that’s terrible 😖
What's terrible?
@@STREETMACHINETV the power figure