RAM 1500 4WD LOCK Test (ESC System OFF) | Does It Actually LOCK??

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024

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  • @jakemason9436
    @jakemason9436 Před 3 lety +9

    Thank you sir! This is why I purchased my new in 2016 Ram 1500 with the BW 44-45 as a must have for my truck. Great demonstration.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 3 lety +3

      thanks man. A good buddy of mine has the Bw44-45 in his ram also. he loves it, one of those very under rated features!

    • @Texas12valve
      @Texas12valve Před rokem

      I have the 44-44 I thought I would hate it. But actually it's not as bad as I thought. 4x4 works great in deep snow and mud I can feel the front tires dig. Also I put it in 4x4 low when backing trailers since it won't bind up and it helps a bit.

  • @CaptainKeto-is4mm
    @CaptainKeto-is4mm Před rokem +2

    So I’ve driven Ram trucks or Dodge trucks my whole life. And I’m getting old lol. I currently have a 2018 1500 4x4 hemi. Love it. Just a suggestion when you need true off road performance put in trailer tow mode on the transmission, with traction control completely off this is where it seems to work the best for me. Having a little more torque to keep those wheels spinning is huge. And my truck definitely skips turning corners in 4x4 lock.

  • @DABII71
    @DABII71 Před 2 lety +10

    My 2018 Ram 1500 express crew cab would be jumping and skipping in 4x4 lock. Mine definitely locks up because it hops and skips

    • @JP_Roy96
      @JP_Roy96 Před rokem +1

      same on my classic 2020

    • @anitademanche5453
      @anitademanche5453 Před rokem

      Same on my 2012 ram st 1500

    • @RandomEvents_
      @RandomEvents_ Před rokem +2

      Same with my 2013 1500 4.7L.
      It Is a beast on the trails with good off road tires

    • @DABII71
      @DABII71 Před rokem +1

      @@RandomEvents_ I have the Goodyear Wrangler® All-Terrain Adventure With Kevlar and they are pretty good in snow, mud rain and dry conditions. Love them 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @RandomEvents_
      @RandomEvents_ Před rokem

      @Venum29 I currently have motomaster total terrain A/T3 all seasons and they're an all around great tire.

  • @seanfritz1355
    @seanfritz1355 Před 3 lety +3

    I have the auto 4x4 in my 14. I love it cause in the snow at highway speed or dirt paths. You let off throttle when it gets slick pop on auto never skip a beat. But I think lock function will allow power to front axel but not true 50/50 split. Helping turning. And you never really turned off nanny state with traction button. The computer never really becomes inactive till 4 low. Then the traction and stability control system turns off on it's own. Then the truck will crab in turning situation.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 3 lety

      It is a nice feature to have, I don't honestly find it at all. I'll have to try it in 4 low.

    • @brandenwilliams9079
      @brandenwilliams9079 Před 3 lety

      @@TheGettyAdventures I also can get mine to crab in four low. (I have the awd/4wd option) and if I need more traction I have an available rear diff lock at my disposal thanks to the off road package.

    • @seanfritz1355
      @seanfritz1355 Před 3 lety

      @@brandenwilliams9079 that's something that would have been nice on mine. I have the 3.92 suregrip. But a true locker wasn't an option with 14 outdoorsman.

    • @brandenwilliams9079
      @brandenwilliams9079 Před 3 lety

      @@seanfritz1355 mine is a 2020. I special ordered it. Limited with off road package. Ram boxes. Panoramic moonroof. 3.92 rear end. Air suspension. Split tail gate. And the most important part the third generation eco diesel.
      Maybe you can get an aftermarket locker now.

    • @seanfritz1355
      @seanfritz1355 Před 3 lety +2

      @@brandenwilliams9079 well I'm not an off road kinda person. My Ecodiesel is more for camper and about anything from 480 miles to 1000 miles a week commute/work truck. Most people I know think I treat it better then a Mercedes.

  • @Wootangtw
    @Wootangtw Před 2 lety

    I’ve got a 2017 Ram 1500 4x4… I cut a huge tree one day ..and I hooked a strap to it and the tree ..it was probably 40 feet long and big in diameter .. I put the truck in 4 wheel drive Low ..and I pulled that tree out of the woods all the way to my house.. probably 100 yards.. it cut a trench almost a foot deep in the ground ..and never one time spun a wheel .. I was impressed for sure… thanks for your videos buddy….

  • @RocketVet
    @RocketVet Před 2 lety +3

    Big difference between dry pavement and mud/snow though - if it was actually NEEDED when slippage was happening having ESC off should make a big difference. You don't need it locked on dry pavement anyway.

  • @ramiretz
    @ramiretz Před rokem +1

    i think the ecu for the transfercase senses the steering angle and let the clutch pack slip when the steering angle is over a defined range

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

    Ford has a similar system in some F-150's, but they do also offer two different transfercases. A mechanical locking one, and a clutch pack 4A one. Their clutch pack transfercase is strong enough though to use in the Raptor but not strong enough to use in the Snow Plow Package.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      makes sense like plow trucks just get beat on and are constantly in 4wd. they would just burn those clutches up. but it is interesting the raptor uses the clutch pack system and not the mechanical locking t-case. I know all the outdoor focused model from ram only come with the mechanical locking transfer case for strength and capability

  • @IF9
    @IF9 Před 3 lety +5

    sir, u have open diff on the rear doesn't this effect the result?. I will try it on mine which is the exact same as urs but with 3.21 lsd on the rear

  • @rjhein
    @rjhein Před rokem +1

    It would have been cool to see you attempt this in low range to see if there would be any difference at all in the binding etc... Just for confirmation's sake :)

  • @waynehutchinson1423
    @waynehutchinson1423 Před rokem

    Thanks for using your daily driver,and possibly damaging it to make this video.Look forward to seeing more great vids.

  • @huntsbychainsaw5986
    @huntsbychainsaw5986 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video. I'm planning a truck purchase and I have absolutely no brand bias so the Ram is one of many truck I'm considering.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety +1

      For the price of these trucks they are a good option.

    • @huntsbychainsaw5986
      @huntsbychainsaw5986 Před 2 lety

      @@TheGettyAdventures. I found a 2018 Ram 1500 with the 5.7L hemi a 6 speed automatic (lever not dial) and no cylinder deactivation with the BW44-45 transfer case which im considering strongly.

  • @jasonfalk7696
    @jasonfalk7696 Před 3 lety

    This is exactly why the Rebel has an actual locking transfer case.

  • @tomstarcevich1147
    @tomstarcevich1147 Před 3 lety

    Cool vid I've got a 2021 ram tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 classic I custom ordered mine with a posi rear end and Yokohama all terrain tires plus lots of extras awesome truck so far👍

  • @MultiPartizan1
    @MultiPartizan1 Před 3 lety

    Great point i thinks Ram 1500 clutches locking ability disengage slightly when steering close to fully turned best system ever!!!!

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 3 lety +1

      the best lol But hey it allows the truck to run nice and smoothly down the road at high speed in 4wd so it's not all bad

  • @maithem212
    @maithem212 Před 2 lety

    Love your channel dude. I just got a 2021 Classic Warlock without the 4WD Auto (mechanical front and rear lock). Have you investigated the rear "Anti-spin differential"? I got one in mine but cannot find info on whether it's a clutch-pack type or a Torsen/gear type.
    Also wondering what you're thoughts are on getting an Eaton Tru-Trac differential installed for off-road performance?

  • @lb7144
    @lb7144 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for another awesome and very informative video.

  • @twagn
    @twagn Před 2 lety

    Just bought a 14 Ram 4x4 and thought something was wrong in 4WD lock on dry pavement. Thanks

  • @colestreit1500
    @colestreit1500 Před 2 lety

    I always wondered why my 2014 ram 1500 skipped while I was in 4WD lock.

  • @user-gb8ww7gi2o
    @user-gb8ww7gi2o Před 2 lety +1

    wait... something doesn't add up. I have a 2009 ram 1500 with a 44-44 transfer case and a clutch pack (it has 4wd auto) but in the same test in 2wd and 4wd auto mode, it really drives like your RAM, BUT in 4wd lock mode, the rear wheels slip like on your chevy, what's the matter? maybe because of the LSD differential in the rear? but he is uncontrollable, and has a certain gap, I don’t understand ....
    P.S. it is not Borg Warner. I have NP246 tc

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      that is a very good question! I wonder if maybe because your truck is an older 4th gen if maybe something is different. Maybe those trucks came with less electronic controls on the 4wd system. I'll have to look into that! but regardless it's a good thing your truck fully locks up. better off-road!

    • @johnbrake1571
      @johnbrake1571 Před rokem

      Dodge used a nvg tranfer case up until 2013 in 2014 they went to the piece of shit borg warner

    • @user-gb8ww7gi2o
      @user-gb8ww7gi2o Před rokem

      @@TheGettyAdventures guys... i figured it out... i have NP246 and it has center lock

  • @jw8578
    @jw8578 Před 7 měsíci

    Great review

  • @MotoDeSoto
    @MotoDeSoto Před 2 lety

    Great video. Do the Rams with the BW 44-45 even have ESC? If so, what does it do? Thanks for the info.

    • @octaviohinojos4934
      @octaviohinojos4934 Před rokem

      Mine has a bw 44-45 it helps also if you want to do burn outs and donuts

  • @christopherpawlychyn3146

    I got a 2019 ram classic without the auto 4×4 I like that transfer case better

  • @ryana3679
    @ryana3679 Před 3 lety +1

    What size are your tires?

  • @OuellettePM
    @OuellettePM Před rokem

    mine 2016 ram 4x4 lock work when i turning i hear tire and soound like your chevy and is fully lock with ESC system ON, but i dont have the 4x4 auto on mine .. so ram with 4x4 auto can be never lock for real !

  • @richardhaskell8109
    @richardhaskell8109 Před rokem

    Try it out with the tow haul on esc off plus hold for 5 seconds should lock all 4 wheels spin on my 05 awd with hi n low 4x4 got hung up on a rock tryed every thing to get it to teeter but got it done also have the 06 dogde ram trx4 5.7 hemi 2wd burn out both tires on bridge got that 1 stuck and frozen in the ground over a week had to live went back started up in 3hrs trying crank but nothing it finally started And same esc off hold 5 sec 4x4hi lock And up and out all 4 tires grabbed like it wasn't stuck at all hope that works out better and I don't sound stupid lmao

  • @JRs-guitars
    @JRs-guitars Před rokem

    Looks like your Ram was working fine through the mud...so what's the problem?

  • @danielrydza6024
    @danielrydza6024 Před 3 lety

    @CUnit1981 beat me to but what he said! The lock switch is a game changer and lets the BW 44-44 give you best of both worlds.

  • @levilevi20
    @levilevi20 Před 3 lety

    Do you happen to know where I can get that bug deflector? Looking for chrome just like yours ..

  • @Dort75
    @Dort75 Před 3 lety

    Sick channel man, I found your videos from your eco diesel review. I’m looking to buy a truck but I’m in an odd predicament and want some of your expert input. Do you have a email or a different way of contacting you? If not I understand

  • @skhdjosh
    @skhdjosh Před rokem

    Well I had a 04 Silverado and now I have 17 ram 1500. I would have have say your full shit on everything you said

  • @ttv-dannthemann2316
    @ttv-dannthemann2316 Před 2 lety

    My 2019 locks up on 4wd but if I do 4wd with esc off it doesn’t lock up at all

  • @droski33
    @droski33 Před 2 lety

    My 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 will bind like crazy.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety +1

      you got the good transfer case then!

    • @droski33
      @droski33 Před 2 lety

      @@TheGettyAdventures yep and has a LSD in the rear! It’s a tank !

  • @glencuda
    @glencuda Před 2 lety

    ? Are you sure you don't have 4wd engagement problems? My 2010 locks up all wheels. I can bearly turn on dry dirt.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      Positive. do you have the 4wd auto option? If not then you actually have a true locking transfer case and that's why your truck will bind up on anything other then snow and mud.
      there are two different transfer case options with these trucks and with my ram 1500 I have a clutch pack system that will disengage itself when the wheels are turning to help save from clutch pack wear. the other transfer case option is a more traditional one like my old chevy and is always truly locked and will cause binding on dry surfaces. if that makes sense.

  • @ricardoguerrero2258
    @ricardoguerrero2258 Před 2 lety

    I have a question sir do you have to put the truck in neutral to put it in 4wd lock ?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      Nope, this type of transfer case has a clutch pack inside it and that will take up any speed difference so no internals will clash or get damaged.
      I wouldn't engage it while having wheels spinning though. that could lead to roasting that clutch pack. but normal driving down the road your going to be perfectly fine. In fact the 4wd auto does exactly that is engages and disengages the front driveshaft whenever the truck feels slippage

  • @JT-bk1gp
    @JT-bk1gp Před rokem

    My 2016 Ram Rebel 4x4 definitely does the same thing as your chevy when I put it into 4wd lock...It skips and hops too..Maybe your Ram's transfer case Is messed up brahda!!!

  • @SuperDave-pe1zw
    @SuperDave-pe1zw Před 2 lety

    How does it do in 4L ??

  • @jameslawrence3669
    @jameslawrence3669 Před rokem

    2014 ram 1500 does the same as that chevy

  • @allenbeaulieu6069
    @allenbeaulieu6069 Před 3 lety

    Hi, I've been looking a some of your videos and I like them. Would you please, tell me what's the 4W Low is for? I bought my first truck this year and it is a mistry to my

    • @ArrowItArchery
      @ArrowItArchery Před 2 lety

      4w low is more for pulling power, like a tractor.

    • @allenbeaulieu
      @allenbeaulieu Před 2 lety

      @@ArrowItArchery is it like a locked differential?

  • @jordanmanton5181
    @jordanmanton5181 Před 2 lety

    is your entire channel this same video made over and over at different locations?

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      Yes. lol umm no I get a lot of comments of folks still questioning or better yet not believing what I'm talking about. So the idea of this video was to show how a true locking transfer case binds up vs the bw44-44 in my RAM. and yes I talk about the same major points but I thought it would be a cool comparison between the two trucks and hopefully prove that I'm not full of shit.
      these videos seem to get a lot of attention and questions so that's kind of why I keep touching on the subject.
      Ideally I would love to have 5 or 6 trucks at my disposal with my own shop to make videos with but I don't at this point in time so I apologize if the content seems repetitive. hoping to expand the channel as it grows.

  • @NoSpillsChills
    @NoSpillsChills Před 2 lety

    Some one needs to do this test with a 5gen DT

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety

      do you mean 5 gen drive train (DT) ? Either way my father in law just purchased a 2022 rebel so that will be cool to test out. bottom line is if the truck comes with 4wd auto you have a clutch pack style transfercase. I think RAM rolled alot of the 4th gen driveline into the 5th gen. with a 5.7 hemi it's basically the same

  • @speedwack
    @speedwack Před 2 lety

    Is that Mud Road?

  • @alexmaldonado7521
    @alexmaldonado7521 Před 2 lety +1

    And the locking all pertains to the diffs boss not the transfer case.

  • @DABII71
    @DABII71 Před 2 lety

    Ahh, ok. I don’t have the 4x4 auto in my 8-speed Ram

  • @davidsmiley3774
    @davidsmiley3774 Před 2 lety

    I can hear your case screaming from here

  • @justinthompson3702
    @justinthompson3702 Před 2 lety +1

    You sir just didn't know what the buttons actually mean. You can run any truck in 4hi which is the same thing as the 4wd lock. 4 lo is when they will usually bind. If the truck doesn't have axle lockers then it won't lock at all. That doesn't have anything to do with the transfer case locking. My jeeps have locking differentials which is completely different than what you are even talking about. Do some more research before posting stuff like this when you don't know what you're talking about.

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 2 lety +1

      you sir have actually zero idea what you are talking about, and I mean zero. Thankfully as a heavy duty diesel mechanic I get the pleasure of rebuilding and repairing axles, differentials and transfer cases for a living and thus I can shed some knowledge your way.
      "If the truck doesn't have lockers it won't bind". Common man, calling me out for not knowing my info and you say something as dumb as that. I have a power wagon, it has a front and rear locking diff. guess what? it binds on dry pavement in 4wd high without any diffs locked. I accidently put the truck in 4wd high and I legit thought I hit something, the truck just stopped because the driveline was binding so hard.
      4wd lock means the transfer case is locked (and yes for my RAM 1500 4wd lock is 4wd high, the correct terminology would be 4wd lock high). But anyways, a fully locked transfer case means that no matter what, engine power is split 50/50 between your front and rear differentials. when a vehicle turns your front axle as whole and rear axle as whole rotate and different speeds. If your transfer case is fully locked those axles cannot rotate at different speeds because they are now "locked together" causing a vehicle to bind.
      A true AWD vehicle has 3 differentials for this exact reason. 1 up front, 1 in the rear, and 1 acting as the transfer case. This allows the AWD vehicle to keep giving power to all 4 wheels in any condition without having driveline bind.
      Now if you have a clutch pack transfer case like my RAM 1500 has it doesn't actually truly lock because well the Bw44-44 transfer case doesn't allow the clutch pack to fully lock when steering input is applied. It does this as a safety mechanism so you don't blow up the transfer case when turning on dry surfaces. this makes these transfer cases bad for off road use. that was the whole point of the video. my RAM 1500 didn't bind going around in circle when it should have because the transfer case does fully lock up. the better transfer case is the BW44-45 that uses a chain drive transfer case.
      A normal chain driven transfer case without electronic aids will bind every time in 4wd on dry surfaces, like my power wagon does every time, it will even bind on gravel, you can hear the wheels skipping along when turning.
      4wd low has absolutely no bearing on "locking up your driveline". 4wd low is simply a speed range. when you shift from 1st to 2nd gear that is also a speed range shift. 4wd low just changes your final drive ratio (just like shifting from 1st to 2nd gear). People think 4wd low is the mystical thing. It isn't, it just allows your final drive ratio to be higher thus slowing down wheel speed and delivering more torque. great for wheel control off road or when pulling something heavy. It has absolutely no bearing on what wheels receive power or not. If you have 2 open differentials, 4wd low does not magically turn them into locking differentials.
      Idk man it's a tough look when you call me out for bad info but you don't understand the bare bone basics of how a 4wd driveline works.

    • @4x4.tests.on.rollers
      @4x4.tests.on.rollers Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@TheGettyAdventuresHi. Did you try to turn when low gear is engaged? Not sure but I think it was Nissan Pathfinder I - low gear was omitting the clutch pack and mechanically locking axles together, Another thing is that these systems indeed may be smart, when wheels are fully turned, compression of clutch pack decreases - unless you use a lot of throttle.

  • @realdadtalks4699
    @realdadtalks4699 Před 3 lety +1

    Try it in 4wd low

    • @TheGettyAdventures
      @TheGettyAdventures  Před 3 lety +1

      I'm going to do that as well as get another ram with the bw44-45 transfer case and compare the two. should be interesting

  • @alexmaldonado7521
    @alexmaldonado7521 Před 2 lety

    Do your homework and bit before making a video like this I've owned every generation ram and now have a 5th generation 2020 all.my trucks have always binded it work a bit different now being a it more advanced more power will go to the wheel.tjat needs it most the whole.purpose was to eliminate exactly that the wheel hop its less suttle now but belive me they are working also the gears are not as low amymore the only ram that truly wasn't full locking was a 2005 2500 i had with a hemi for a short amount of time only because it came with a rear diff that wasn't limited slip or pazzi....why in the world they made that teuck like that inahd no idea its why I got rid of it when I got stuck in the snow one winter and I found out why.....my 2020 laramie with the 392's can barely even make a corner in 4 wheel lock.....your truck probably has the 373 and no locking rear diff......

  • @terrycrossley8374
    @terrycrossley8374 Před 2 lety +1

    unfair comparison try a ram without auto 4x4

  • @xterra4hire
    @xterra4hire Před rokem

    You should take down this video since you figured it out and that it does have 4 wheel deivw

  • @lesd2633
    @lesd2633 Před 2 lety

    RAM has LIMITED SLIP diff. Duh.

  • @CUnit1981
    @CUnit1981 Před 3 lety +1

    Contact Brandon at www.blackfoxindustries.net/ he makes a locking switch for the 44-44. It locks the 44-44 clutch so it will bind on dry pavement just like the Chevy. I have one on my truck and it makes the 44-44 a beast.