Scene from "Alexander"
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- In this epic movie, Oliver Stone shows the life of Alexander the Great (Iskander the Accursed in some circles) who put an end to Ancient Persia's Achaemenid Dynasty by crushing its armies. Though relentless in his conquests, Alexander is portrayed as respecting the culture of his new Persian subjects by adapting some of their customs, marrying a Bactrian Noblewoman, and keeping Persians in his company.
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Not a cell phone in sight. Just a crowd of people living in the moment. Pure awesome.
Exactly! I was born in the wrong generation. I wish I was out there… in the field… picking rice and sanding my ass
Lmao
I like you
"You truly are a queen."
"Thank you, noble Alexan--"
"No not you, I was talking about Bagoas."
😂LMAO!!!!
Just a greek thing xD
I'm dying LMAO
Funny!!!! (even though I don't know which one Bagoas is...)
LMAFO
She was his real match. If he wasn't so blinded by the need of glory, he had everything he could have wanted there: a true wife, a true husband and a true lover.
Alexander love interest should be stateira 2 .
Yes
What in world are you on right now ....Alexander was a conquerer, what are saying about marriage and being a husband ...this in not my wife and kids ,, comedy series
Yes and he could of lived a great life in the city of Babylon, they said it had enough riches to sustain 3-4 generations of great armies etc , and the beautiful architecture and infrastructure with everything built into it with strong walls, trade , a port, hanging gardens, ziggurats and agriculture would make it a oasis in the desert
There are plenty of PPL in life who live an amazing life. But someone has to take those huge steps to achieve something bigger than what life demands.
This scene displays how well educated and Great Alexander was ! 🙏🏻 the choice of the actress (French) is amazing
Princess was amazing, innocent yet brave enough to stand infront of Alexander & he's generals alone, if he married her and stopped war he would've been a happy man but Alexander was not unlike most of us, he really wanted to conquer the world at any cost
Your conclusions should be based on history, not through Hollywood movies!!!
In history, Alexander was a military genius, but also completely cruel as well. Because of his ambition, Alexander caused the death of at least 1 million people from Asia and Europe within a decade. Certainly, this event does not make Alexander great. Also, more than 1 million people were taken captive. Many cities were set on fire and destroyed, such as:
-the city of Tyre in Phenicia
-the city of Thebes in Egypte
-the city of Miletus in asia minior
-and Persepolis in Iran
The Princess forgot to request that the Persian cat still be fed its' Fancy Feast cat food. Good taste is so easy to recognize.
Lololol
I feed mine that
That white cat looked miserable
Stateira was 10 or 8 years old when she was captive.
Alexander sent Stateira and her family to Susa with instructions that she should be taught Greek for preparing her as his wife. Stateira became Alexander's wife in 324 BC. In 324 BC she was of marriageable age, probably 18 years old. Stateira was pregnant by Alexander the Great.
Roxana was jealous of Stateira, Plutarch ( an ancient Greek historian) writes " When Alexander died, Stateira and Roxana were pregnant, but Roxana was jealous of Stateira, … At the time Roxana only saw an interest in ridding herself of a woman ( Stateira ) who was a dear friend in Alexander’s complicated social world ”. After Alexander the Great's death, Roxana poisoned Stateira, she killed Stateira with a baby. And Stateira died 1 day after Alexander the Great's death with a baby in her womb. Of course, a few years later, the Macedonians killed Roxana and her son.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateira_II
ummmm... this means that the tradition of marrying underage girls was established by Alexander the minion and you all keep blaming the Arabs.
Aleph Z. Did you even read what he wrote?He married her at an age of about 18 years old.Women in Arab lands are giving birth to the forth child at that age and at the best case.
@@VasilisStefanidis.
I don't want to compare any of the different cultures, or values here, but, to put it another way, girls under the age of eighteen in the European countries, African countries, India, Northern and Southern American countries are giving birth or they are raped and or and there are many many wrong bad things done to them.
Ummm... Let's just pick up the fashion Industry (for example).
@@alephz4889 i can understand you, some peoples just too ashamed to tell the truth about their Nations history but too easy for blaming others
In this movie I love this scene and the Persian Princess Stateira II, Stateira II was Alexander the Great's wife.
in this version she preffers to Hephaestion XDDD than Alexander.
@@barbarablue2571 Hephaestion was much more good looking and handsome than Alexander. Hephaestion was more like a king, not Alexander.
@@laodice_III -__-
@@laodice_III yes, you're right, based on written history, Hephaestion is more handsome, taller, and fit as prince. In fact Alexander married to stateira and at same time Hephaestion with princess stateira sister. A very good and lovely example about friendship and multiculturism
@@Cleeon So true. And yes, Hephaestion married the Persian princess " Drypetis". Drypetis was Stateira's sister.
possibly the most influential man in history and maybe the greatest military commander ever.
but man, Oliver Stone made a shambles of this great story
Every attempt at an alexander movie utterly fails. His life can't be simplified
Jared looks so hoot in this movie!
Yes he was super hawtt 💓
2:29 "you are not wrong he too is Alexander"🥺🥺
Alexandre's true love was hepaistion
İt was a lie from modern history writers Alexander was not in love with any man..
@@alexanderbrandt4046 and you knkw bc?? You were ancient hystorian?💀 Lol i don't give a shit clearly man was queer asf
@@ele9875 , and you are historian ore the historians was there and see this with there eyes... Alexander The Great was not homosexuell, all this was writing by modern historian writes, they make Hitler Homosexuel, the say Alexander the same they are lies. İ'am not like you belive everthing what İ hear.
@@alexanderbrandt4046 how'd you know that? Did you know him?🤨Nope.
@@bglover4628, no and the so true historian don't know him to, the modern historian make Hitler homosexuel, they say Alexander was homesexuell ect... Alexander the great, Cengizkhan and other imortant Lider in History was not Homosexuel the was true powerfull Leaders and have strong mind.
Those were the lines of porus😢
Alexander- how you wish to be treated
Porus- treat me like a king would treat another king
Fake narrative
Persian woman are beautiful indeed. So cultured and exotic. And the accent too.
Thanks!😊
@@laodice_III Bagoas
The city of Babylon was amazing
They are amazing!!! I love there black hair and 🥛 skin!!! Plus they strong morality too!! It’s normal to have 0-2 partners in there life!!!
@@parysatissh6978
You are looking really beautiful; oh my.
This is an amalgamation of two different events. First, after Alexander's first head-to-head victory over Darius, he captured the Great King's family with the rest of his camp. When Alexander went to pay a personal visit on them, Darius' mother assumed Phaestion was the great warlord who had conquered her son and started pleading for her life. When a translator pointed out she was addressing the wrong man, Alexander stepped forward and told her "You weren't mistaken, he is Alexander too," because Phaestion had served as a body-double for him from time to time. The second event was after Alexander's last great battle in his attempted conquest on India; the warlord Porrus was captured and brought before Alexander, and Alexander asked him "How do you wish to be treated?" Porrus replied "As a king," and Alexander not only spared Porrus, but even appointed him his regional commander.
Who cares? He was a mass-murderer. He also failed at keeping Persia together, so they kicked his army's ass out and restored Persian rule.
Iran won.
alexander gay never won india.....he destroyed the greatest history thet was contained in the libraries of persia........
Daniel Ryan porrus was a king not a warlord and that's not even his real name
Daniel Ryan
Alexander never won Porus... It was a stalemate ... Both the armies agreed to mutually disengaged and keep the areas won by each other. Alexander was severely wounded and his army was not confident to even return safely to Persia, because all the tribes whom he decimated on his way to India were waiting for his return to take revenge. Alexander was given humanitarian escape route to sea (via Makran-Baluchistan) to Persia. He could never recover fully from his war-wounds in India and died due to medical complications, shortly after his return to Babylon.
Porus was from Punjab, Indus valley (Pakistan). Alexander may have won the battle but not the war with Porus. Alexander turned back instead of attacking Indians.
peace through kindness.
the persian princess is a better wife to alexander than the insane roxana! she was much more like a queen!
Roxana was Jealous, crazy and evil. Jealous Roxana killed princess Stateira with a baby on her stomach. Oliver Stone in Alexander movie 2004 portraited Roxana's evil and jealous character very well.
Plutarch ( an ancient Greek historian) wrote " When Alexander was in the bed of death, Stateira and Roxana were pregnant, but Roxana was jealous of Stateira, Roxana colluded with Perdiccas and wrote a fake letter from Alexander to Stateira, after her coming, Roxana and Perdiccas killed Stateira, Parysatis, Drypetis, Stateira's teenage brother. And except jealousy, Roxana eliminated the rival of her son by ridding herself of a rival who was pregnant… At the time Roxana only saw an interest in ridding herself of a woman ( Stateira ) who was a dear friend in Alexander’s complicated social world”.
Of course, Roxana took her wish to the grave, for a few years later, the Macedonians killed her and her son. Princess Stateira and Princess Parysatis were quite important in Alexander's life. It is obvious that he used their knowledge in his strategies and plans.
She was, but he preferred drag queen.
Jared leto was a stud long back in those times too omg that guy's been looking so fine 😍
Yes, those historical people used to bathe in crocodile urine and female donkey's milk to maintain their beauty.
If you don't believe then. Read about the first "Cleopatra" or the second "Cleopatra" (second isn't from Cairo Egypt)
Leto got his ass kicked really bad by that crazy guy
If you watch the 2 disc set Alexander director's cut, you will see a lot of behind the scenes footage by Sean Stone the directors cut,...filmed the mountains in Morocco...it clearly shows hours of set-up and artificial snow made, for a few minuets screen time. The making of really gives you a lot of production info.
My ancestor Alexander was an honourable man. In this scene in which he is showing grace to 'Stateira, Princess of Achaemenid Persia' is an example of his magnanimity. A true ruler wants peace, and sometimes will even broker that peace with the family of his fallen foes and rivals. He also mourned the death of Darius knowing how painful it is to see a fellow king and monarch fall. He understood that war is hellish, and any measure of peace that can be won with all peoples is a noble cause. Alexander's (Hellenistic) Graeco-Macedonian empire was achieved 'by right of conquest' and the manners in which he achieved such a great feat are still spoken of today. 'Alexander III the Great, King of Macedon' will not ever be forgotten.
he's probably about as much your ancestor as adolf hitler so good luck with that
After conquering Persia, they gave a precious little chest to Alexander from the treasure of persia. it is said that Alexander took this beautiful little chest everywhere with him. Do you know what was in this chest?
if they wanted peace they should have stayed their asses in Greece and left other people alone. they are nothing but a bunch of thieves and invaders.
Alexander is the ancestor of all of us in Europe! A shining light in the ancient world.
@@bavariancarenthusiast2722- That is absolutely true and I am immensely proud to be begotten of his seed.
Many Kings come & gone since antiquity.....but there is only ONE - we refer him as 'The Great', truly He was
The Persian princess Stateira, Alexander the Great's wife, truly is a Queen, such a magnificent, brave, worthy and amazing princess. Jealous Roxana killed this sweet, beautiful Stateira with a baby on her stomach.
Stateira was royalty, the Persian princess is a better wife to Alexander than the jealous Roxana ! Stateira was much more like a Queen! A king should marry such a lady.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateira_II
Till now, i wonder why Alexander marry Roxanne, but not surprise me much, that Alexander ever get angry to Roxanne and his son, even before his leave this world
@@swood8972 Yes. And Roxana was Sogdian, not Bactrian. Roxana has nothing to do with Afghanistan. She was from Sogdia, modern Uzbekistan.
@@Cleeon Roxana was Sogdian, not Bactrian. Roxana has nothing to do with Afghanistan. She was from Sogdia, modern Uzbekistan.
@@richardfrye7929 yes i know, she is a daughter from a Tribe chief. Please read again, i try to fix his or her miss typo, from bacteria , but I'm sure he or she want to type Baktria
I think part of the reason the dialogue feels so stilted and faux-shakespearean is because they crammed in real quotes from historical sources, such as the whole "treat me like a princess" thing.
Lady: treat me like a princess
Alexander: but this is a democracy
Lady: F@#$
I cant believe that jealous Roxana killed this sweet, beautiful princess with a baby on her stomach
I know right?
Roxana (Roshanak) was Jealous, crazy and evil. Jealous Roxana killed sweet and beautiful princess Stateira with a baby on her stomach. Oliver Stone in Alexander movie 2004 portraited Roxana's evil and jealous character very well.
Plutarch ( an ancient Greek historian) wrote " When Alexander was in the bed of death, Stateira and Roxana were pregnant, but Roxana was jealous of Stateira, Roxana colluded with Perdiccas and wrote a fake letter from Alexander to Stateira, after her coming, Roxana and Perdiccas killed Stateira, Parysatis, Drypetis, Stateira's teenage brother. And except jealousy, Roxana eliminated the rival of her son by ridding herself of a rival who was pregnant… At the time Roxana only saw an interest in ridding herself of a woman ( Stateira ) who was a dear friend in Alexander’s complicated social world”.
Of course, Roxana took her wish to the grave, for a few years later, the Macedonians killed her and her son. Princess Stateira and Princess Parysatis were quite important in Alexander's life. It is obvious that he used their knowledge in his strategies and plans.
@@barbarablue2571 You can love Roxana the monster, but I hate her.
@@EyeLean5280 No, there were great women, kings and emperors at that time such as Cyrus the Great, Buddha, etc.
both of them were persian
Alexander: You shall live in this palace as long you choose.
Alexander: (whispering) but I shall destroy persepolis right now, what do you say.....my......noble....princess.....
No certain. It may have been an accident.
Indian president
Ram Nath kovint 6/2018:
spoke about the "most famous Greek in India," as he described Alexander the Great. "Every student in India knows that Alexander the Great and the King of India Porus were confronted, and then, impressed by both of their courage and value, they became allies
India knows Alexander was greek
And we know stinky gypsies r indians 😂
Alexander is not documented by Indian history he is not considered great here😂@@wankawanka3053
Alexander, apart from being an excellent strategist, brilliant warrior and conqueror per excellence, was a very well-mannered and humane guy! To this day, our lands fondly remember him as Sikandar... regards, an Indian
@Mr Deplox nick well Humane means benevolent or compassionate
@Mr Deplox nick In case you are Iranian, you should know that earlier when that side was Persia, he did grant pardon to the Persian Royal Family even though his army sacked Persepolis: also I meant in general, especially in Ancient India and Greece he committed great acts of kindness too, not only of Valour
@Mr Deplox nick Persepolis was retribution for the same act done by the Persians at Athens, and Darius already offered his daughter in marriage to Alexander, he just didn’t want to accept the other part of the deal which was half the empire, he wanted all of it + his daughter. And which girls specifically did Alexander himself rape and murder?
Can we agree he was "humane" by the standard of that historical period? :)
do we really call him Sikandar tho , it was always Alexander in my text books
Alexander loved Hephaestion so much that he wanted to be reunited with him in the afterline. But Alexander thought himself a god, thus, his afterline would be different to that of mortal men. When Hephaestion died, Alexander wanted him to be proclaimed a god, so that they could be in the same afterline together. The priestess refused to name Hephaestion a god but they named him a demigod instead. Alexander died no long after.
Rebecca GeekGirl , he never was lovers with heph, no proof to that, the theories are that he had brotherly love with heph nothing more
@@AstridAnffinson yes you're right
@@AstridAnffinson thank you. Every woman just seems to want to make the story gay. You are the first to suggest simple brotherly love.
*Afterlife
He became a bit narcisstic didnt he.
It's when History Talks ☝🏼🕊️✌️💜
Well, in his defense, sacking the Persian Empire while it was in economic disarray was a pretty sensible move, for a Greek. Given the history of the Persian Emperors trying to add the Greek colonies in Asia Minor (as well a Greece itself) to the Empire.
LOL, what was "Greece" back then?
Magna grecia (South italy)from roman era
*_Obviously I should not judge a 13 year old comment but your reading of history is very naïve and yourself very gullible_*
Babylon City was worth lol
@@dayangmarikit6860 Greece was a tiny group of weak city states that conquered the most powerful empire the world had ever seen. It shows the potential and the true strength of the European and how we can overcome almost any challenge.
I like how Alexander respects women
Because he was not interested in them
Gayyyy
idiot
@@Plausiblelove except roxanne 😝😝😂
😂he committed r@pes
We don't know if the persian princess asked Alexander to be treated as a princess, but there are evidences to show that the Indian king Paurava after the defeat in the battle of Hydapses, had spoken the words "Treat me as befits a king". But these are all Greek accounts and
there are no surviving Indian books on the battle. Maybe the Indians didn't pay much attention to it as it was a minor battle in the north west frontiers of India and that area was always prone to footfalls of invading armies. Most of it in the form of raids and a few as in the case of muslims during later times to subjugate the native populations.
Pakistani king, not Indian.
India is lucky Alexander died from illness or it would have a few cities called Alexander and bronze statues of the man
@@tirghroub5817 there was no pakistan back then
@@aparichit6204 neither was there India… please search up the day you got independence.
Yeah they stole this dialogue between kings and gave it to the princess.
There was no solid proof Alexander was gay, but it was well-known that he has preference for men (much like many other men back then) It's also believed that his true love was a man. Alexander and Hephaistion were described to be in love in every possible sense of the word (romantic/sexual/family/friendship/brotherhood). Not sure if it's mentioned in this movie since I havent watched it yet, but Alexander and Hephaistion always look up to and compare their relationship to the one of Achilles and Patroclus (which was agreed upon as romantic by many, specifically back in that time by Plato and Aeschylus). Also, the King's favorite eunuchs were males. But then again, it was socially encouraged for men to have sexual relationships with younger males. (Another reason why it's believed Alexander did indeed love Hephaistion above all others till his death and beyond. It was rather strange back then for men of the same age to take sexual interests in each other, therefore Alexander/Hephaistion's love was known to be intensely pure and immensely deep)
Allen Leichmann It was not strange. It was simple in Ancient Times if you were a male of the ruling class having a wife was for heirs , continued power and to unite ruling families, female slaves for needs, a young man for love and goats for pleasure.
It is all revisionist propaganda by the progressives. Yes some Greek men and warriors fucked weaker men in the ass most often slaves or very young men. But Greek code of honor prevented any real man from taking it in the ass. If Alexander liked taking it in the ass, his soldiers would never have respected him as a capable general.
Men who like taking it in the ass can never be classified as masculine. That is about as feminine and submissive as you can get. Stop bullshitting
Alexander was like Allawdin Khiliji , as shown in Padmabat .
@Default User94 Stfu troll!
Default User94 This indeed I have read, many a times it was a power play I read somewhere for these noble men to to fuck another man in the arse but never take up on their own ...
Alexander was indeed a noble ruler and a gentleman!!!!!
Dude was gay af
😂😂😂
What a noble action from Alexander to the princess
This act was done by Cyrus in reality; he respected the defeated people and their religion and culture. He also freed the slaves in Babylon. It is true that Alexander fell in love with Iranian culture. But before that, he burned Persepolis and Pasargadae and enslaved many women. He also stole all the treasures of Persepolis, While Cyrus did not burn the places he conquered, nor did he take anyone as a slave. But both of them were conquerors
@@CyrusPersia-wv7zo Exactly, Even Cyrus was able to create a treaty establishing the sovereignty and autonomy of the conquered peoples.
The movie doesn't show it to focus on his marriage to Roxanna but he would end up marrying her and then some of his key allies and friends would be married to her sisters.
3:14 - Gary Stretch.. `Sonny’ from Dead Man’s Shoes… 😮
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Morals of a Real King 👑
If this is actually accurate , then yes he was both merciful and magnanimous indeed. Sometimes though for politics some can do such evil but why not be magnanimous since he had everything he could hope for ..
Ottomans when they conquered, were considerably tolerant to their new subjects especially in early days as well for example. Most nationalist Turks take it as ''We were so great and such bla bla bla'', but if you're subduing territory that're actually too large for you to manage as they are, you don't want to disrupt the existing order. You don't want to make a mess. For all their violence and gore, even Mongols were tolerant and moderate in most of their conquest. It's when someone resists, they were going berserk
You can't bring death and toil to your new subjects out of revenge or spite, otherwise nobody will ever bow down to you
Valiant Alexander is, it isn't purely out of the kindness of his heart. He's just not stupid, he understands that if he's to rule, he's to take the peoples of Persia as people. Not some bunch of slaves.
@@subutaynoyan5372 it's not quite the same , but I've been watching WW2 videos and while there was such devastation and death , the allies were also very merciful and magnanimous. Sure there were practical pragmatic reasons but also just not to be vindictive . Great interest of mine WW2 since I was very young.
Alexander, the Great King of my Heart ❤
I love this scene
What do you think about Alexandre thé great?for me one of the important things is ...his professeur... Aristoteles...
This is why he would be remembered as Alexander "The Great"
Souvik Das
aaloo Alexander mahaan tha ye baat mante hai par wo Indian king
Purushottam/Poras se haar gaya tha
@@sharmiladas3573 Nope. Porus lost.
@@bryanstark1930 poras lost. Poras was a king of small country ( at that time) of india but the battle was heavy.
@@sharmiladas3573 King Alexander was the winner of that war
@@sharmiladas3573 I am an indian and I am a history researcher... Porus actually lost the war but seeing his bravery Alexander gave back his kingdom...
And don't believe in fake serial in Sony TV...
To all the Indians saying Alexander was scared of Indians, is to say the British didn’t rule your land!!! Absolute crap...
Weren't the Greeks ruled by the Ottomans in that logic
Jared sheepish smile when he was mistaken for Alexander, reminds me of Zac Efron.
A ruler should marry such a lady ..
This actress presented
the princess well
To how princesses suppose to present themselves
Persian Women are the pretiest by far!
Thanks!😊
Parysatis Shahrokhi if you want to ruin your life, get yourself an Iranian wife :)
Yes of course
@@ednan9 Parysatis is a girl, Parysatis is a Persian name for girls. Parysatis was the name of Alexander the Great's wife. Alexander the Great had 3 Persian ( Iranian ) wives
1. The Persian princess Stateira II daughter of Darius III of Persia
2. The Persian princess Parysatis II daughter of Artaxerxes III of Persia
3. The Iranian ( Sogdian Persian ) noblewoman, Roxana
Alexander the Great had a Persian-Greek mistress named Barsine. " Barsine's position was that of a woman of the king, which included special status, prestige and some (political) influence without being the king's wife. That was perfectly acceptable to the conquered Persians. The best short biography of Barsine is in Carney's Women and Monarchy."
By Barsine, Alexander the Great had a son that he called Heracles. The boy would have been Alexander's only child born during his lifetime, Cassander murdered Heracles. Herakles was 17 years of age when he murdered in 309 BC.
The Persian princess Stateira was pregnant by Alexander the Great. Roxana was jealous of Stateira, Plutarch ( an ancient Greek historian ) wrote " Roxana was jealous of Stateira, when Alexander died, Roxana murdered Stateira, Parysatis, Drypetis ( Hephaestion's wife and Stateira's sister ), Stateira's teenage brother ( poor boy ) and threw their bodies into a well, which she filled with earth." At the time Roxana only saw an interest in ridding herself of a woman ( Stateira )who was a dear friend in Alexander’s complicated social world, Stateira and Parysatis were quite important in Alexander's life. It is obvious that he used their knowledge in his strategies and plans.
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Roxana was evil, brutal and jealous. Oliver Stone in Alexander movie 2004 portraited Roxana's evil and jealous character very well.
Of course, Roxana took her wish to the grave, a few years later, the Greek Macedonians killed her.
Amen to that!!!
gotta love how Hephaistion just turns and looks at Alexander like "dude, help, she thinks I'm you"
Good movie 🎬
Doh. Porus the Indian king said this to Alexander. Alexander asked him "How will you like to be treated ?". He said like a king treats a king. Did the writer fail in his history class?
@Sergio Aguero bloody rascal first learn ur barbaric history...
Porus was 'Indian' by true definition "inhabitants of Indus valley" (now Punjab, Pakistan).
Not modern day Indian Republic. Yet in other videos, Indians are fighting over him as if they own him. Lol
@Jonni Fiesta If by some ill fate, pakistan conquered all of india, then will all of the Indian history will be pakistan's history? or will it remain as Indian history?
@@spacecoffee4639 Alexander failed in front of purus
@@spacecoffee4639 czcams.com/video/dThIOJVz6XY/video.html
But, I think this dialogue belongs to the Indian king. He said, "I want to be treated the way I am, like a king."
Yes, Porus the ruler of Taxila said that dialogue.
In reality.... Porus was a winner of Hyde's pies battle...
All historical fact shown
@@user-rairnlrptn What are your sources?
Don't give me indian revisionist sources, those are obviously wrong
Yes. It was the answer of Porus. But in this adaptation is more gallant (to show the Alexander's cultural level) in this context.
@@user-rairnlrptn Porus wasn't the winner. But, we cannot deny that Alexander didn't dare challenge Magadh.
This scene is so amazing ... he was truely "The Great"
"How'd you like to be treated?"...That's a part of a conversation Alexander had with the Indian king Porus...not with her.
nice
Why does alexanders commanders sound like they are from ireland...😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Don't you know that the Alexander conquered Ireland and UK once?
😂😂😂🤣
Do you prefer they speak an ancient form of Greek doric dialect? 🤣
@@marbet2395 That would have been amazing!
@@pitsinokaki Yes and no american would have watched the movie because all americans hate subtitles.
As an Indian i wish we had somekind of writings/historical books about this...But unfortunately we don't have..All these are greek history. Only one side is known that too left with many questions.
History is written by the victors duh
@Akhand Bharat nobody outside of India has heard of that guy where as you seem to know Alexander very well that speaks for itself and the comment started with "as an Indian I wish we had some kind of writings/historical books about this" so you are contradicting it if you claim there are indian accounts of this part of history.
This comment thread is about Alexander the great and if there are indian accounts of his history we do not need more duh moments from Akhand..
I wish we had Indian sources as well. But it’s okay, we have found thousands of Greek Artifacts in Modern Pakistan & India from his Campaigns there !!! 👍
Because Alexander doesn't exist in history
This interaction is based on Alexander's real life interaction with the Indian King Porus. When asked by Alexander how he wished to be treated, Porus replied "Treat me, Alexander, as a king would treat another king". Impressed by his answer, Alexander indeed treated him like a king, allowing him to retain his lands.
Good point
Alexander's idealism was his downfall. His biggest war was with reality.
Idealism and Diversity is what causes the death of many great empires . Kind of where we are headed now .
Idealism or Ego
Without ego ,no glory ,without glory ,no life ,maybe living , but no life.
If possible, you would share the Russian version of this scene
Thanks in advance
bagoas...🙏
What did the ancient Persians look like? I understand that it might be confusing at first look due to their lack of representation, but it will actually become pretty clear upon a second glance. For now as you read this just keep in mind that most contemporary art, even the ones depicted by modern Iranians themselves are based on ancient Persian Royal art, which itself was directly copied from the Assyrians and Babylonians who came before them - a highly symbolic, flat type of art where all faces regardless of which nation was represented, looked almost identical (for more see the last two paragraphs). Some of the modern art also conflates the current Middle-Eastern phenotype with that of the ancient peoples of Iran.
The Persians and Spartans were both Indo-Europeans (Caucasians). But according to Greek historian Herodotus (Father of History), the Medes were blonds and sandy-haired Northern Iranians. Xerxes’s father, Darius, was a Mede, his mother a Persian. That collaborates centuries later with Roman poet and historian Ovid’s analysis when he said Northern Iranians (the Parthians, Scythians, Alans, Sarmatians, etc), were no different in appearance to the Celts and the Germanic tribes. The Roman author Ammianus Marcellinus, centuries earlier had stated the same.
The few realistic art work we have of the Persians themselves done by Greek and Roman artists, depicts them as white, but dissimilar to the Greeks, and far more resembling the French, the Spaniards, and reveals them as Eastern European-like. Herodotus also noted that Xerxes was supposedly one of the most youthful in appearance and handsome men in Asia during his time, whatever that means.
The most life-like depiction of ancient Persians are the “Bishapur art”, the wall and mosaic drawings done by Roman prisoners of war where they put their well-known talents to use and aided with decorating some newly constructed Persian palaces. In those, Persian women specifically and other female courtesans are depicted as almost pale with somewhat thick, flat eyebrows, with brown and black hair, very rarely some, including men, with red hair (as also depicted by Greek artists on the so-called Alexander’s sarcophagus and Sassanian floor fresco). The “Sassanian silver plates art”, also repeat the some of the same type of depictions, but since it was done by Persian artists, again many faces look similar, and have a symbolic quality to them to a certain extent, yet still a very good starting point. Other notable art include, “The Parthian solider” bust, (Greek-based), “The Dying Persian”, and “The Parthian statue”, a remarkable ancient Roman work of art with black marble used as the body, contrasting it with beige and black marble as his clothing and cape. Lastly, of importance are the many Parthian coins still in survival. Clean shaven (or not), and inspired by realistic portrayals unique to Hellenic art, Parthian kings and Princes with their Iranian weapons of choice, the bow and the arrow, look like Scandinavian war-lords, or at the very least are very Robinhood-like (see Arsaces I).
Alexander’s northern Iranian wife who was after his death murdered by his mom or his men, was named Rukhshanaa (Roxana, Roxanne). In ancient Iranian and still today’s Persian, it means, shiny-faced, light-face. Back then, and even today in Iran, the more secluded a tribal group was/is, the “lighter-skinned” in appearance they are, something that again, is Specially true for some reason or the other with Iranian women, signaling lack of intermarriage. The indigenous peoples of the Iranian plateau, the Elamites, had beautiful olive-skin with long braided hairs, whom Persian royals went on to copy, as a form of fashion of the times, as well as borrowing their long robes with wide bejeweled sleeves. Their sophisticated culture was long established before the arrival of the Persians and other Iranian tribes.
THE BOTTOM LINE? Northern Iranians aside, focusing strictly on the Persian tribes (Southern Iranians), THEY, resembled modern Albanians, Romanians, and modern Northern Italians, as well as very strongly, the Medieval Europeans (excluding Northern Europe). When you see an image of a Medieval European, from Hungary, Spain, and above all, France and Portugal, you are most likely coming very close to seeing the face of an ancient Persian. Accordingly, see the rock carving of the Khosrow II, an artistic work and an archeological piece 1000 years before the emergence of the Medieval Europe and the concept of the heavy armored worrier (the Chevalier, or the knight). It is also noteworthy to indicate the remnants of the Northern Iranians (the Alans and the Sarmatians) are still living today on the region of Ossetia-Alania in the Northern Caucasuses. Ancient Iranian tribes hailed from Ukraine by the way, at least that’s as far as we can tell.
As the late Prof. Emeritus Richard Frye of Harvard noted, while the Iranians are not geographically Eastern Europeans, they are however, “The Europeans of the East”. Or according to encyclopedia Brittanica,
“The name Persia derives from Parsa, the name of the Indo-European nomadic people who migrated into southern Iran…in about 1000 BCE”.
It’s important to note that Persian imperial art itself in Persepolis and other places does NOT depict the Persians, or any other groups, realistically, as they all show a flat profile, with most faces looking very similar or almost identical. This was partially borrowed from the Assyrian and Babylonian empires who came before them, to portray a continuity and homogeneity of races. It was also an attempt to legitimize Persian rule, the world’s first Indo-European super power, who replaced thousands of years of semitic kingship (the Egyptians and the aforementioned civilizations). Let me repeat that one more time, ancient Persian art itself is NOT realistic, but more symbolic.
Where the “Indo” suffix of the designation, Indo-European comes from is due to the fact that while some Iranians tribes where settling in their new homeland, in modern Iran, simultaneously other Iranic tribes invaded Northern India. That is why many Indic and ancient Iranian Gods and religious beliefs display similarities. The British scholar who coined the term thought that the related-European groups passed through the Hindu Kush mountains. Although at some point the old Ariana (Iranian tribes) who invaded India were fortunately, eventually absorbed by the indigenous Brahmin population. Otherwise we wouldn’t have the nation of India, as we know it today. Something that for anyone who is a lover of cultures, arts, mathematics and good food would be unimaginable.
To avoid centuries of confusion, the reader should know that the ancient Persians called their new homeland, Eyre-Aan (Iran: The Land of Aryans), cognate with Eire-land (Ireland). The designation, Persia, was a Greek identifier. The Old Celtic Eire-n, is a dialectic variation on the old ethnic designation, Airya (Aryan). The modern name Erin derives from that. Please note that the word “Aria” has no relations to the modern concept of the repugnant Nordic ideology.
That’s ethnicity; linguistically Iranian languages are classified as the aforementioned Indo-European, which can in turn be termed as ancient English.
Words like, mother, father, son, daughter (dokhtar). ponder (pendaar), nice (nik,neekoo, nikki; Greek: Nike), Jasmine (yaasamin), scarlet (saghalaat, see Merriam-Webster), Melchior, art (Old Pers.: arta), mind (manaa), grab (Avestan/Eastern Persian, grab), far (related to fara, ex: faravahar; fra, par-vaaz), being (boodan), is (hast), you, tiger (tighra; Merriam-Webster), it (een), Allan (Alan, Alania; from the Northern Iranian tribes who settled in modern day Scotland), Ariana (Arya, Aria, Eire-aan, ultimately, “Iran”). Amazon (hama-zan; see “Sarmatians” in Brittanica; also Online Etymology Dictionary; also Adrienne Mayor, The National Geographic; also “The Early Amazons, JH Block, 1995), Caucasian (search engine: etymology of Caucasus), etc, are mostly still found in Farsi.
I hope this was helpful.
it could be made in Photoshop but come on..an intire mountain side? Check it out.. itøs the scene where he stand at the Peaks the first time and realized the World is BIG! He talks to this one guy, and as the shot films from his back and forward over the mountain, a perfect symmetry face pops out!
Alexander the Great, the greatest Greek leader of all times!!!
the greatest macedonian leader not greek
Is present greece the same size as the medieval times
Vote Alexander 2024 lol
Alexander the gay
@@stephandokovski6187 you should not speak slav-Bulgarian intruder. Your country FAKEDONIA or FYROM was Greek historical region, is paeonia.
Macedonia=Greece
Greece=Macedonia
Interesting part of that movie
We should fight for peace. For our families.......WE SHOULD RESPECT...LIFE
The concept of sexuality as we know it today did not exist in the ancient Hellenic world. No one was qualified as GLB etc as today. There was only the concept of Love and it was normal for people to love each other regardless of sex, it was customary for Men to marry and have children with women but also to have love affairs with other men in very strong bonds of friendship. In fact, in the Hellenic language there is no distinction phonetically per se of the word "kiss" and the word "friends".
Nope. It was considered humiliating for a man to take it in the ass. Then and now. There was no stigma on being the penetrating partner but the receiving man was humiliated.
thousands of years later in a nation nothing like ours, you all focus on his orientation instead of what he conquered at the age of 25. Wow. Pat on the back for you all.
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Alexander asks her how do you like to be treated and she says As a princess.
Now we have been taught that this was the same question Alexander asked Porus and he replied,As a king treats another king
@Calucifer13
I did not know the mating cat joke he crack, lol.
Could you tell us more about his sense of humor, please?? It's not something we can find in the history book.
كولن فريل ممثل أكثر من رائع 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Certainly the Macedonian dialect was
a very rustic, harsh, rough and broad dialect of Greek
called north-western Greek (Doric Greek).
However the relationship between Southern Greece
and Macedon was more like that between Germany
and Austria than that between Britain and Scotland
or Ireland.
No! 😂
Read Strabo!
There was no "Southern Greece". There were city states that constantly fought each other, as well as confederation/co-polities and some Kingdoms, mostly on the North (Thessaly, Epirus, Macedon) as the North was agrarian and they kept the old Mycenaean traditions.
However they were all speaking a form of ancient Greek, worshipped the same Pantheon and had similar culture. All participated in the Olympic Games and the Amphictyonic Leagues.
Best Alexander's role played in Indian serial Porus
ΜΕγας ΑΛεξανδρος..greetings from macedonia GReece..
LOL, can you people not mark every single video with the Macedonian-Greek problem? This is the 21 century and Westerners are not concerned with absurd identity politics.
@@joviemaco1888 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Identity politics?
Alexander was a Greek and he will remain greek . Despite attempts by the Slavs to paint him as slav
@@abhratalukder8462 I've seen no "attempts" to "paint him" (?) as a Slav. There are people claiming he was a Macedonian in an sense of Macedonian as an ethnicity on it's own. My comment was about boring nationalistic Greeks trying to impose some boring identity politics by writing dumb comments on videos meant for entertainment. Your comment oddly smells of anti-Slavic racism. Should I report that to CZcams?
@@joviemaco1888 Hell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😬
What racist argument did I put forward ?
@@abhratalukder8462 check your comments and remember that we live in 21th century, and some of us aren't used to online trolls with too much time on their hands spewing savage racism online, in search for self validation and meaning of life.
My name's Parysatis and im the third wife of alexander!😂🇮🇷🙆♀️
@@bhaskaromkar7929 .. if Alexander try to destabilize India's Sovereignty
bhaskar amar If these comments already didn’t make any sense yours is the product of smoking too much
I like u
A I'm Alexander
@@viraloracle5151 get some life
Rey, faraón, libertador, conquistador, general, semi dios, el más grande..he inmortal
Spiritually going back and forth with Cleopatra. Short Julius Caesar entering a weakened Egypt
Like it
Power shows a mans true inner self if this was how alexanda conducted himself with the princess with the power he had then it shows what a true honourable man he was !
Big lies and manipulation this whole movie is all about and only fools believe and clap for it
truely"great" in terms of military of cors. This act was done by Cyrus in reality; he respected the defeated people and their religion and culture. He also freed the slaves in Babylon. But about Alexander, It is true that Alexander fell in love with Iranian culture. But before that, he burned Persepolis and Pasargadae and enslaved many women. He also stole all the treasures of Persepolis, While Cyrus did not burn the places he conquered, nor did he take anyone as a slave. This is just a mouvie dude!!!
You can have this kind of life only: on movies and in your dreams.
Soon in virtual reality
@@pl565ter historically this act was done by Cyrus. He respected the defeated people and their religion and culture. He also freed the slaves in Babylon. It is true that Alexander fell in love with Iranian culture. But before that, he burned Persepolis and Pasargadae and enslaved many women. He also stole all the treasures of Persepolis, While Cyrus did not burn the places he conquered, nor did he take anyone as a slave. But both of them were conquerors
THIS SCENE IS SO GEH
Très beau film j adore
@impartial1 He was 20 when he conquered Persia, and yes he was great. Persia was still strong, even though they had just lost a king. Their economy was still 300x better than the Greek economy. Darius could still fund 250,000 man strong armies to oppose him, and Alexander was outnumbered in all of his battles against Persia. Let's not forget that Alexander was benevelent and kind to the Persians, unlike most conquerors would have been.
Not as kind as Persians were to lands they conquered, as they knew the old secret of sharing ownership let’s everyone’s gifts shine, and leads to win win scenarios, economy stimulation for all. Modern society has yet to learn that lesson.
And don’t forget Alexander set humanity back centuries maybe thousands of years in his burning of Persepolis, the city of ancient secrets, soul awakening practices that make the Eleusinian mysteries look like child’s play, and plant medicine formulas for human stimulations we still have no idea about.
At that time when alexandr entered Babylon it used to be under Persia but Babylon built was longer before Iranian came Babylon built by Akkadian not Persian it stunnied Persian before Greeks stop stealing others ppl history
A great conqueror indeed, but far from it as a statesman.
What has been forgotten is that Alexander had tactical knowledge , wisdom , and officers and men devoted to him .
@@williamconto6977 He didn't have time to show what he would have done as a statesman though.
The Hound alert 01:12
the hound before his get burn!..LOL
LOL. I almost missed the Hound..
*FUCK THE KING*
agree.
name of the background music plz
Stateira had a crush with Hephaestion.
There are other stories that he asked the same question "How should you be treated?" to Porus as well... I guess, Plutarch just spinned up a lot of stories around Alexander. According to my study, he lost the battle of Hydaspus....but again, no one knows the truth.
A pyhrric victory, those indians fight hard, bloodies their nose, and gave them a taste of things to come, if that fight was so hard, imagine what awaited them further east armies ten the size with technology they couldn't imagine, missile weapons, crossbows, automatic ones massive, ballistas, hundreds of war elephants, chariots, black powder bombs, and this is before we get past india, then you have what is modern day burma, vietnam, korea, then the big one china, they could field a million men, and not peasants, well trained well armed armies, was definately time to turn back, the next battle they would not of won, i believe a few hundred thousand indians awaited them for the next battle.
And what did you study lol? Considering we know that Alexander kept campaigning for a year after his battle with Porus (He took Multan).
@@GabrielNicho Alexander was a walloper, you are a walloper aswell.
@@GabrielNicho " Considering we know..." ? How do you know it ? Neither you nor me were present.....all you know is based out of a source written by Plutarch who was born 200-300 years after Alexander ( which means he was not present during the campaign as well )..... If you believe the story then :
1. If the army revolted, how did they agree to go south west to Multan from Hydaspes ? They should have gone back to Persia in order to have a safe trip home
2. Alexander defeated Persians and so in the next battle , there were Scythians ( horse-archers ). However, if he had defeated Porus, then why where there no elephants mentioned in the next battle ?
3. Alexander killed almost every one he defeated ( except Darius who ran away from the battlefield ). He killed, according to the story, Porus' 2 sons... Porus damaged his army the most. So how come only Porus was spared ?
Good luck !!
@@redboy6889 What are you even talking about? Porus sons died in battle, they were not executed by Alexander. And I'm pretty sure Alexanders army were still willing to follow him a little bit (such as securing his southern flank aka Multan), I just don't think they wanted to invade India (I'm pretty sure if you had been campaigning for over a decade you would be pretty over it also). And we don't know because of Plutarch we know because of archeological findings and all kinds of reasons. I mean you are saying that Porus won lol, but there are zero Indian accounts. And if Greek historians are such liars, why is the Seleucids loss to Chandragupta recorded lol? EDIT: And we know that Taxiles gave Alexander elephants, so he didn't even need Porus. And, Alexander traveled by river towards Multan, probably hard to bring elephants, also they are probably pretty useless climbing walls, so they probably didn't get a mention.
- - > > > This is Alexander himself talking about “our life “our language “ “ Macedonians are going to judge your case “There is no need for any explanation.
Grks
Slav
Haephaestion's little jealous side eye when Alexander is looking at Bagoas
LGBT
You will find this is a common pattern throughout the course of history. The Persian Empire was founded by Cyrus the Great of noble warrior quality and great martial skill (1). Over the course of its history as it accumulated great wealth and prestige his descendants gradually declined in both aspects whilst exceeding in the pomp and excess depicted here (2). However, the economic strength of the empire and its army was enough to maintain and even grow its power. *Until* someone of noble warrior quality with great martial skill came along and routed that army despite extreme numerical and unit strength disadvantage - czcams.com/video/cNZGNBBmeKY/video.html.
This often repeating pattern has led to the downfall of nations/kingdoms/empires during the course of history. This is why it is critical for any military leader to always consider themselves to be *just a soldier* first and foremost (3). Regardless of whether their individual skill, knowledge, Wisdom in martial activities and noble warrior qualities allows them to rise to the position of King. Because there is just something very special about someone being *just an anything* yet being able to achieve great social change through force of Principle. This also sets the best example for every other soldier to follow and inclines the army towards equality.
This should protect against the pomp and excess depicted here, which just as Aristotle warned is a function of not moderating the senses. Or in more specific terms the build up of sensual greed due to the accumulation of wealth and power. Furthermore, it should prevent the build up of catastrophic levels of military hubris, and ensure the skills necessary to lead *from the front* (instead of far behind as with Darius at Guagamela) are always passed on from noble warrior father to noble warrior son - czcams.com/video/z2JC4BH4vNI/video.html (except the *diabolical* messenger execution depicted in that scene already discussed at length).
As it relates to harems specifically, it’s important to note you’ll *never* bring forth the strongest beings because the *Quality of Love* between King and Queen will be so reduced. Only if the Quality of Love were *unsurpassed* could you bring forth the Greatest Army Commander In History.
1. Such quality in fact that the people of conquered territories often came to refer to him as “Father” - for the *improvements* he made to their lives.
2. That is not to say they didn’t add tremendous value in other respects, because the empire just wouldn’t have *flourished* otherwise.
3. So you should not strive to *aggrandise* yourself, or be aggrandised by others. Because then you will lose sight of your *fundamental purpose.*
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Great content
India can never be conquered... Even today India is 85 percent Hindus.. Alexander failed, Islamic invasions failed, British failed.. we are still here.. the longest continuous civilization in the history of mankind.. and will continue to be so !!!
Lol porus loose even it's Indian textbook lol come out of illutiom
Again dreaming British and Muslim ruled over sub continent so stop blabbering now
Persianate dynasties, Turkic Mamluks and Mughals conquered India.
@Khushal Singh Maurya India was conquered by beggars?
bum ba-bumbum b-b-bum, whenever there's a courtyard full of women, wine and all sorts of exotic stuff, this rhythm is playing
@AyameAmuro Yeah, he DID.
Still can't believe Roxanne was a black actress.. like... BRO why the hell didn't you cast Iranian actresses!!!!
The Princess in the video is the Persian princess Stateira II daughter of Darius III of Persia, Alexander the Great’s wife, not Roxana. Alexander the Great had 3 Persian (Iranian) wives
1. The Persian princess Stateira II daughter of Darius III of Persia
2. The Persian princess Parysatis II daughter of Artaxerxes III of Persia
3. The Iranian (Sogdian Persian) noblewoman, Roxana
Alexander the Great had a Persian-Greek concubine named Barsine. " Barsine's position was that of a woman of the king, which included special status, prestige and some (political) influence without being the king's wife. That was perfectly acceptable to the conquered Persians. The best short biography of Barsine is in Carney's Women and Monarchy."
By Barsine, Alexander the Great had a son that he called Heracles. The boy would have been Alexander's only child born during his lifetime, Cassander murdered Heracles. Herakles was 17 years of age when he murdered in 309 BC.
The Persian princess Stateira was pregnant by Alexander the Great. Roxana was jealous of Stateira, Plutarch ( an ancient Greek historian ) wrote " Roxana was jealous of Stateira, when Alexander died, Roxana murdered Stateira, Parysatis, Drypetis ( Hephaestion's wife and Stateira's sister ), Stateira's teenage brother ( poor boy ) and threw their bodies into a well, which she filled with earth." At the time Roxana only saw an interest in ridding herself of a woman ( Stateira )who was a dear friend in Alexander’s complicated social world, Stateira and Parysatis were quite important in Alexander's life. It is obvious that he used their knowledge in his strategies and plans.
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Roxana was evil, brutal and jealous. Oliver Stone in Alexander movie 2004 portraited Roxana's evil and jealous character very well.
Of course, Roxana took her wish to the grave, a few years later, the Greek Macedonians killed her.
@@laodice_III Yes, I know and I love Persian history :) It is just that I wish they casted Persian actresses.
@@setarehmariposa9571 Your name is Persian, are you half Persian?
@@laodice_III Dorood, No I am not; I am full Persian :) I just go under a different name on youtube :) Sepas
Roxanne was from Afghanistan not Persian!
such a beautiful Princess Stateira , and Alexander he married to bride Roxanne , welcome to Babylon and rest soldiers of Macedon-Greek. for My King Alexander from Egypt.
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Yes
I feel strongly compelled to remind everyone arguing for the "hey, they totally didn't label anyone gay or straight, let's learn from them" argument that the Greeks also did not have labels for pedophiles. In fact, it was customary for a man to choose a child to be his male lover, a relationship that would start around the age of 9 and continue to adulthood. Still think we should be following their example? (I'm not homophobic, I'm just annoyed by the blind arguments here lol)
Source?
Macedonia is the oldest nation in Europe
…. Modern Macedonians are ancient natives on the Balkans, there they existed as a separate Slavic group and for the longer period saved the most Archaic forms of the ancient Slavic language used by the Pelasgians, Veneti, Goths, Sarmathians, Trachians, Trybals…”
(Johann Georg Von Hahn:” Albanesische Studien:”1854)
Johann Georg Von Hahn was Bavarian politician and Philologist .
Ancient Slavic language?!? HAHAHA!!!
@@alexsg870 this is why your a dumba$$, the macedonian language is so old that it dates back to the bible.
How can Slavic tribe be that old? Ever read a book ?
If you ever have a chance watch Alexander from the 50's. The persian princess is drop dead gorgeous she went on to win miss universe for portugal. I feel that movie is better than this one. This one feels too modern..it didnt make me feel like we went back in time like troy and gladiator did.
you mean there is another movie. I will look it up 🥰
I quite like the Lyre Girl.