Harbor Freight Tire Changer with Duckbill Mod
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2021
- Because it was brought to my attention in the comments of the last video I made about this tool that I was mounting the tires with the duck incorrectly I thought I would give it another shot using the advice I was given.
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I bought one of these junker tire changers and after some major modifications I can finally use it. The accessories that come with it is pot metal. Its quicker just to lube the bead and spoon it on than to use the supplied junk.
Yes, you used it correctly. :) I built one just like it for $100. Going to use it tomorrow! Can't wait!
It does make it so much easier! Well done!
Although I made my own attachment, we have very similar setups..... including the bent/flimsy HF bar! Noticed that you were missing the HF anti-rotation pin; I bent & removed mine too.
A couple of other things I found helpful; I bought a cheap hold-down/depressing tool which makes installation even easier. I'm currently building a centering cone, which will also hold the rim to the machine.
Great video-
Thanks for the great video! All meat, no fluff.
When you install the second bead, You need to put lube on the underside of the tire bead, where it contacts the duck head because that's where the friction occurs; not on the top surface of the tire.
That drill job is nice! Good tip!
Leaving the valve core out helps when inflating/ seating the bead. Allows air in quicker 👍🏼
It does. And for those that won't seat...use starting fluid.
@@thepitpatrol use a bead blaster... safer, and works like a charm.
@The Truth Serum now that is a fact. We farm, and are red necks, but the bead blaster is a great invention.
You can.make a.bead blaster out of and old frean tank too
Weld a 1 inch pipe add a ball valve and another pipe that you flatten the one end down . Easy project
I like the way you mounted it to your garage floor. I might do that so it can be moved away and stored when not in use! Good Video!
It's a great option, would do it again in a new shop. I'm glad you like the video!
Well done and thanks for sharing
Thnx for your video much appreciated 🙏
Great video, thank you!
A little bit of soap water in the bead when your breaking it really helps I found
I found that as well, push the bead down, spray it in, work in it, give it a hard push and *pop* it comes off the bead.
Thanks for making this video, I'm currently building this setup ,for my tire changer. Best regards to you and your channel.
I'm glad this video could help a little. This was a great addition to the garage, you won't regret it!
We are all learning, and learning together! I think I am buying me one. Thanks!
This is the most helpful video on YT on the correct position (5:21) of the duck head and the tire when mounting.. You saved me hours of trying to figure this part out. Thanks a million! Folks: If you're doing it right, manual tire removal and installation using the duckbill adapter should almost be as smooth as butter and it should not be a struggle.
Now if he would use the bead breaker correctly, he would be all set. @1:10 you see him pushing on the side wall of the tire, the tire should be pulled away a few inches so the wedge part of the breaker pushes on the bead and under the lip of the rim more.
@@cheetahpro didn't he correct that by repositioning the tire right after that?
Yes he did, hope others take notice. Just pointing out tire positioning. Most of these helpful videos on CZcams start out doing it the wrong way. Happy New Year @@AR-mb3id
@@cheetahpro Yep, there's always a better way to do things. HNY to you as well!
Outstanding sir .
I use a large clamp to hold it down when putting it on keeping it from popping back off that frees your hands to pull the bar so much simpler
Helps if you put a clamp on the rim so the tire can't wiggle off just as fast as you can put it on. Also, for really stiff or reluctant tires, you have to make sure the opposite side of the tire is down in the channel so it gives enough room so the bead can fit over the rim on the other side. Sometimes a big C-clamp on the sidewall can help with that.
I need to get a set of rim protectors and a nice solid clamp to help stop exactly what you described.
Great video thanks
Good job
I love how you did not edit out the part where you were having problems. I'm glad you showed that. About 10 years ago on Craigslist somebody was giving away one of these and the motorcycle part to it for absolutely no money. Ever since I've had it I've never used it. My problem was I did not want something that big sitting in the middle of my garage floor bolted to the floor. A month or so ago I saw someone using the floor anchors like you have. It looks like it worked pretty well for you and watching this video is perfect timing I have to run to Lowe's today so I'm going to pick up some of these fasteners and try breaking down some tires.
Thank you for sharing your experience with this. Do you happen to have a link to where to buy the top part of the tool? I'm really not even sure what that would be called so it wouldn't help me to Google it.
I left that part in on purpose, I try to be as real as possible. I do actually have the link for the arm www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Tire-Changer-Swing-Arm-Mod-with-Duck-Head-Duckbill-Demount-2-Models-/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
Thank you for your kind words
for others wondering about these anchors, they are known as "flush shell" anchors. if they get debris in them, blow them out with compressed air before threading in the bolts. I like them a lot for temporarily or occasionally securing things in the middle of the garage.
Looks like another good mod to that would be in the area of the bead breaker. Make a tube with a round plate at the bottom - like the top where the tire mounts. Put lug bolts thru the plate. Weld that to a piece of 1x3 tube and bolt it down.
Maybe make it adjustable fir different size tires. Then the tire stays flat while you push down to break the bead with a longer bar.
Good idea
cool vid
When you went to put the top bead back on make sure you start away from the valve stem especially if it has the air pressure sensors , & push the bead down below the rim flange . That's the reason it slipped back off the first time you tried . 50yrs. in the tire business. & still going at 70yrs. Young
I agree. Always start taking it off starting at the valve stem and put it back on ending at the valve stem. That way the valve stem and especially the pressure sensor do not use up the precious slack you need to get the tire off and back on.
Get a “rim clamp drop center tool”. It’ll help hold the tire into the drop center portion of the rim when you mount it back onto the rim. Helps a lot!
I forgot about those. I'll have to pick one up!
@@HardAngle you don't need a clamp just push the tire down on the opposite site of your duck head
Just you see clams and or vice grips put some protection at the teeth and you're done cost you a couple dollars or spend 20 or just do like the other guy said press down on the tire as you go around
Mr. Obvious here, what they said, knee, vice grip, clamp on whatever you use; get 180 from the duck head in the drop center. I may be using it wrong but I use the Esco Drop Center Wedge.
Wat is de afmeting van de koker en buis?
BRAVO👍
That bead breaker doohickey looks like it could use some extra meat on its Bones. Beats the hell out of using a screwdriver and a hammer
Thanks
How did you make the stand removable from the concrete? What did you use? Concrete threads
I used steel drop in concrete anchors, they essentially act just like a nut in the concrete.
Move your bead breaker to the hole closest to the pivot point according to the tires profile size it will give you more leverage to help with the bead breaking
I just drilled a new hole on the pivot bar the other day to move the bead breaker out so it is pushing more downward instead of being at an angle and it has made a huge difference!
Remove tire start at valve stem. Install tire end at valve stem. Tube or tubeless you will damage stem or sensor eventually.
on the back of your wheels spray this and scrub with a brush than rinse with water, it will take the caked on rust and grime off like magic, I'm not advertising this, I used it and was shocked it actually worked like magic, Eagle One Etching Mag Cleaner
when breaking have the arm pointed so its pushing inward, and reinforce the arms as they crumple easy my cousin said.
Definately went much quicker. How is it with big truck tires? Or is there a diffrent model for that?
Same tool does the big tires but the small and big tires are a similar experience
Where did you get that duck head attachment ?
Ebay www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Tire-Changer-Swing-Arm-Mod-with-Duck-Head-Duckbill-Demount-2-Models-/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
What size is the bolt that you mount to the floor, there are 2 parts, 1 is the bolt and the things you drill to the floor and inserted what do you call that, thanks
I can't remember the size of the bolt, probably 7/16" or 1/2", but they thread into "drop in anchors", that's what I'm using at least, they work really well, haven't had any issues with them coming loose or anything yet and I've changed probably 15 full sets of tires now
Where did you get the duck attachment.
I got it on Ebay from a company called Roundabout Tools. These attachments recently became available again as they were out of stock for some time.
You doing good job but I see some mistakes you doing great 👍
What type/brand of tire lube did you use? I couldn't make out the brand name.
I purchased a liquid version that seems to dry up before I can even start mounting. I've been looking on Amazon but most come in these large pails that would last me ten lifetimes and cost more than I'm willing to spend.
I really enjoyed the video. In particular the part about placing the tire the wrong way on the duckbill. I did the same thing many many times before figuring it out.
I try to be as honest as I can even about my mistakes just in case it helps someone else out. The tire lube I use is called "Bead Don", it was about 20 bucks for the container and I'm about halfway through the container and I've mounted easily 100 tires so far.
I did the same mistake during mounting stage and tore the beed. Watched similar videos a long time ago and forgot about this small detail regarding positioning of the tire on the duckbill - it's crusual.
Absolutely crucial
where did you get the attachment. I can't find it on the Harbor Freight website
The tire machine itself is from Harbor Freight but the attachment is an aftermarket product. I just went and searched them up and it looks like the seller in Canada I got mine from no longer has them in stock and I can't find anything similar for sale anywhere. I'm sure something will pop up again soon in the future
Roundabout tools
Where to buy the part?
where do you buy duckbill mod set ? I need that one.
Ebay, if you search for a manual tire changer swing arm mod you'll see a few different versions to choose from.
Basically, by using your body weight, you can step on the tire to press it into the rim - try it.
don't forget to lube it when you break the bead... Also, static friction is greater than kinetic friction, so get it in motion.
WD40 is GREAT for breaking the bead especially if there is lots of corrosion, but usually I'll just shoot some soap water in there
What's the name of the product and where can you buy one
They call it a swing arm mod, I bought mine on Ebay from this seller. www.ebay.com/itm/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ughzyp_7q_u&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=pvOiQn_wS42&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Were did you get your duck bill add on iv look for one harber freigth dont care it
Ebay, look up manual tire changer swing arm mod
Have you done 18" wheels with this?
Yes I did! Did a set of 18x8.5 wheels and had about 3 more inches of travel left of the duckbill arm, needless to say it'll do some pretty big wheels.
Drop carriage bolts into the anchor holes to keep crap out
Where can U purchase that top adapter to the tire changer ?
I quick Ebay search for Manual tire machine swing arm should make something like this pop up.
Go ahead and reenforce the bead breaker before it bends, as it surely will. It's easier to seat the beards with out the valve core in place.
I'm going to work on stiffening it up as it does bend a lot on really stiff tires.
Where do you buy the attachment
Ebay, you can look up "manual tire machine swing arm mod" and it should come up
Good enuff....Yes always at an angle cross the duck bill....And plenty of lube.
So where did you get the duck bill parts for the tire changer
I got them on Ebay, just search for "manual tire changer swing arm mod" and you should see a few options pop up exactly like the one I have
@@HardAngle ok great thank you sir
Do you have any pointers on keeping the valve stem aligned with the yellow dot on the tire. I make a best effort then twist the tire against the rim with it mounted but prior to airing up. It is a bit much for me to do a 245/45 17 tire on a 7.5 inch rim. It takes all my strength. I feel fine at the time but can't bare the thought of out sourcing to a pimply faced kid at a shop who doesn't care and who I will have to see many times due to slow leaks. I have alot of money invested in this due to situations like this. That one detail is causing me back pain for a month. I am going to be 50 soon so anything that I can do to mitigate that one issue would be helpful. The other parts of the process are cakewalk using the duckbill. Any ideas? Thanks.
I use some tire bead clamps (just specifically shaped rubber blocks not literal clamps) that help mitigate the tire spinning and I'll move the tire back just a bit so the tiny bit the tire will rotate before pinching the block will actually align the tire with the dot, other than that, I don't have any other special tricks that I've found yet.
After you install the tire it will rotate on the rim, line it up after the mount. before you add the air lol
If you soap water around the frame before you try to break it, it comes off a lot easier just a thought
I do, that just may not have been shown for the sake of keeping the video moving. But yes that does help a ton.
Where did you get the tool for $200 at is it at Harbor freight and if so can you give me the part number
Ebay, if you search for "manual tire changer swing arm attachment" you should be able to find it.
I NOTICED THE TIRE MACHINE WAS MOVING TOO MUCH ... I MOUNTED MINE ON A HEAVY WOODEN PALLET ,,, NOW IT DOESNT MOVE AT ALL ... PLUS IM STANDING ON THE PALLET.. AND I CAN MOVE THE WHOLE THING AROUND IF IN THE WAY....
This is cool tool.for tyire sweet
Just changed a full set with it yesterday, it's very cool to have!
@@HardAngle I would love to buy but I don't how to bolt this on concrete bolt
can u post where u bought The adaptor at?
www.ebay.com/itm/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ughzyp_7q_u&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=pvOiQn_wS42&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hey now! This is the internet. NEVER admit you were wrong. You're supposed to simply dig in your heels and insult those that pointed it out.
No!!! You!!!
nice tool. i want to make the same. is the duckhead tool plastic?
I believe it is made from Nylon, so yes it is technically within the family of plastics.
do you have the link to the tool please?
www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Tire-Changer-Swing-Arm-Mod-with-Duck-Head-Duckbill-Demount-2-Models-/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
Amigo cuánto cuesta la modificación de esa herramienta o ya viene todo incluido Gracias por tu video
La compro por $200 .
Skip the lube if you're using sticky rubber, making power, or have big brakes. Use hairspray when popping the beads in place.
I have often worried about using lube on the bead knowing it stays there and it's the only contact area between the rim and the tire to transmit power to the road.
@@HardAngle yup, I can't get tire shops to even line up the yellow dot with the valve stem, when I ask them to use hairspray instead of lube, they look at me like I have a dick growing out of my forehead. I guess tire shop dudes can't afford actual hotrods, so they don't understand when someone is spinning rims inside of their tires...
This might be a very useful and headache relieving investment for you then. Since I was taught by some viewers how to use it right it is quite easy to change tires, I honestly don't think I'll ever buy a pneumatic, bolt this into the bed of the truck and I have a tire changer I can use at the track.
@@HardAngle where did you purchase the manual duckhead?
I got the duckbill arm on Ebay if you don't want to make your own and you can get new ducks on Amazon or Ebay.
Thanks. Good video. A piece of cake. right?
Once I started using it right it was a piece of cake!
Ive been doing it wrong too. No wonder its been a struggle.
Glad I could help, the first time I tried the correct method I could not believe how easy it was, hopefully it will be the same for you.
I don’t know why HF doesn’t sell that adapter…
Right!? Can't get the motorcycle tire adapter they used to make anymore either
Please send me the EBay link for the swing arm
www.ebay.com/itm/Manual-Tire-Changer-Swing-Arm-Mod-with-Duck-Head-Duckbill-Demount-2-Models-/373624493594?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=706-127636-26712-0
Byt, did he repair the leak?
I did
Do you have a link or model number to the black duck bill?
I THINK, it is this one, I haven't ordered a replacement in a while but this looks correct.
www.ebay.com/itm/195005320751?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=d0pC_VVLRm6&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=pvOiQn_wS42&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@@HardAngle Thanks this one fits. the other one that i bought were too big.
Awesome, glad to hear it, I ordered one that was too big once too and had to redrill it and it never worked quite right.
Where i can buy the duckbill mod?
I got mine from Ebay, from a company named TP Tools
So if u put a little gas around that bead when trying to pop off the bead it will pop MUCH EASIER... just FYI
WD40 works really well too, plus the little straw on the can makes it easy to get right in between the wheel and tire before pushing the tire off the bead.
I wish Amazon sold it all like this
It would be nice if you could get this whole setup right out of the box
What about some 225/40-18 summer tires?
If you're asking if it will put them on, yes it will! I did a full set of 225-40R18s a few weeks ago.
@@HardAngle Would u be able to make a video on that? I have a set of Michelin PSS’s and would like to see it in action if possible. Are you having any problems with scratching the wheels or installation?
If you're super careful you won't scratch your wheels, the duckbill doesn't scratch anything because its nylon, its mainly breaking the bead that risks scratching the rim the most.
@@HardAngle What centering cone did u use? and how’d u keep it the whole wheel from spinning? I have that tire changer just without the mod. The little red rod broke that kept the wheel from spinning sadly.
I drilled holes in the plate the wheel sits on and I use bolts and lugnuts to bolt it down, I only have to use 2 lugnuts but it makes the wheel very solid on the machine and makes your life a whole lot easier. That way I also don't need a centering cone, I just made sure the holes were equal lengths from the center post when I drilled them, I hope that helps!
one thing I never see anyone do is clean the rim where the bead of the tire sits ., especially on steel rims .you'll never see a shop do this
I guess it's more profitable to slap a new tire on as fast as possible. I don't want to take it off later to fix a dirty leaky bead so I like to scrub them clean or use the wire wheel in extreme cases of rust or corrosion.
Clean the lip of rim of debris and stuck rubber while tire off Good job though
Why are you mounting a worn out tire, for practice?
Correct, just for practice
You need a holder makes it much easier
Holder? Like something to hold the tire in place when mounting? What do you mean?
After watching this, I believe it’s just best for me to have a technician charge me $30/wheel for my motorcycle. $60 every 3 years isn’t worth doing all this for my case I guess
For some people it's not worth it for sure, I have a habit of running over nails somehow and find myself removing a tire monthly to do a patch so for me its completely worth the investment. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Will this remove Run Flat Tyres?
I haven't come across any to try but I have a feeling it probably wouldn't since there are special tire machines for run flats. If I ever come across any I'll be sure to make a video on it.
Harbor freight don't sell that product anymore 😕😔, someone made them stop selling them
That is a bummer, such a useful tool for so cheap.
What about balancing?
I have an old school bubble balancer for that and so far with all the people I've done tires for they have all said they feel great
@@HardAngle awesome! Where did you get the bubble machine? Thanks for replying
I got it at harbor freight, as long as you make sure you adjust the glass so the bubble reads center before you use it it will do a pretty good job.
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easy peasy ??? Do that on a 30 series tire and see how easy it is LOL
Make it easy on yourself and spray plenty of soapy water on bead.
WD40 works great too for popping the tire off the bead
Jesus, help this man...
Not sure even he could help me lol
Where is the balancer lol
I've got one of those too lol
Put some soap on it
Now balance it. You can get just as good of a balance with a bubble balancer
I have a bubble balancer. And I've done a full tire change for pretty much every one of my family members and not one has ever complained of a vibration.
@@HardAngle I have done the same . They work great just slower and may have to move some weight around. Or even spin the tire on the rim .
Thanks