Cheap & DIY Guitar Fretting Tools, Tips & Tricks
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My 5th year elementary teacher once told us "knowledge is useless unless it's shared with others". Keep doing what you're doing; your videos are so inspiring.
that's not true, what your teacher taught you i quess.
@@BigEdWo ?
I love that!
@@carterevanroust i meant, if you know something others don't could your own benefit. it is not useless for you.
i hope that makes sense.
@@BigEdWo What he meant is what Tim said in this video. Yeah, it benefits me, but if I die and don't share it, that knowledge goes with me and that's why it's useless. For example, my aunt passed away last year and she was the only one who knew all the family recipes but she never wrote them down cause she didn't need to. I got her to tell me a couple and I wrote them down but all the rest died with her. Now nobody knows how to make them.
Finally, a man after my own heart. A good tip I can pass on for a fret leveling bar is. Visit a local stonemasons yard and ask for a leveled granite cut off from a gravestone etc. I got a 22" x 2"x 1" piece of polished granite for the princely sum of £5. Just add double sided tape and an appropriate grade of sandpaper and Bob's your uncle as we say over here.
For me, making tools that do a special task is just as gratifying as building the guitar itself. Especially if those tools can be made with scraps. Thanks and keep it going.
indeed!
Dear friend, I am writing to you from Argentina, an underdeveloped country where there are really very few things to make instruments, and the few that arrive are priced in dollars, but our currency is very devalued and it is impossible to buy anything, your video was inspiring, thank you very much Tim!!! I follow your channel
Greetings Joseph
Wow! 18 minutes and I saved over hundred dollars. I was about to do a fret dressing and it looked like I needed a dozen special files and all kinds of abrasives. (After 18 minutes on CZcams.) So I went to the Dollar Store and bought finger nail emery boards and foam nail polishing blocks and a big rubber eraser. -Thanks!
Way back in 1976 I was building my first real dulcimer (the prototype had 12 gauge steel wire glued on top of sawcuts for frets). I managed to buy fret wire somehow but I had no specialized tools. To saw the slots, I ran an oil stone down each side of a hacksaw blade until it cut the right kerf.
It worked, and I'm still playing that instrument. 😅
I started building my own solid body electric in 1984. I would go to two different wood shops who sold maple and alder or ash mahogany. I used old hand planes to make two piece bodies to get two edges flat and didn't have pipe clamps so I used 4 2x4's with one edge flat a 1/4" bolt to hold them then 3 press in flange nuts and 3/8" bolts to clamp the 2 sections. I used hand planes for all truing the finger board neck . An old router to cut the truss rod slot and binding . Spoke shaves and files to shape the neck and a set of chiz to fit the neck pocket . Used feeler gauges with filed teeth to slot the nut. I even built 4 strats still have 3 with the same tools except I bought C lamps and pipe clamps and still used the same 1/4" D handle porter cable router to do all the neck pockets and truss rod slot but I made templates for the body routing neck pocket and pu's and so on. Round over bits for the body. Better truss rods mine were home made single action when I started. A small bench top drill press for tuner holes and to sand the body to the line I marked from the template using a sanding drum from sears . I even used a hand saw to cut finger boards , placed one side flat then drew a line sawed then planed the other side. Exacto saw for a fret saw files to fit the tang after I measured it's width. Just filed the saws blade to match the tang.
Only the last 2 I built I bought a fret saw from Stew Mac and a 12" radius block and fret hammer. Never did buy nut files. Always wanted to build an acoustic yet bought those and do my own set ups and level and dress frets . I used a 8" mill file to level , this time I made a 1"x2"x11" oak block cut with my table saw and trued the 1" edges sand paper on the saws cast iron top and plan to use my nickleson slim taper triangle files with safe edges to re-crown the frets . Wanted to get one on amazon for $60 plus but I can get by. Using the masking tape super glue to fix the sand paper to my new oak leveling beam.
Finally bought a 3 degree reamer to ream pin holes in a few acoustic that are recording King parlor size because they use cheap pins that are close to 3 degree the reamer is from a seller on Ebay who makes 3 and 5 and are $57 and just as good as Stew Mac perfect. All sorts of small files and assorted mirrors and pin vices which I use for all tuning key screw holes and added strap buttons.
Now that I am 74 I just have 5 acoustics to maintain and since the 3 strats I built were made here from wood here they never changed with humidity. I sold at least 15 electrics I built by hand and all the buyers were impressed how well they play no fret buzz at all. Even compared to $4000 electrics they have.
Wow nice man
To add a few more tips: Those little 6-inch stainless steel rulers that we all have are perfect for cleaning out fret slots, and you need those rulers anyway, so. . . . Razor blades of course make useful scrappers, but so, I've found, do microscope slides (cheap and disposable). A regular ol' claw hammer works just fine for hammering frets. Grind the face of your hardware store end-nippers flush on a grinder. They'll work a lot better that way. I think polishing frets is overly prissy, I don't do it. But I do use #0000 (4-ought) steel wool. It's indispensable, in particular, for smoothing fret ends.
I learned a philosophy Tim embodies. "All teach, all learn." Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us DIYers. I'm a bit too new to have anything to share. I'm still in the all learn phase.
Cheers. you'd be surprised how much you could help the person a day behind you! I used to teach guitar and bass lessons and the joke among the teachers was that we only had to be one page ahead of our students in the book :)
You can get blocks of wood cut to radius for guitar necks for cheap. They work as a fret level for those same radius frets. This trick saves a lot of time, a little sharpy on the frets, and run down the frets once or twice rapped in 600grit. You can see every fret that isn't level. Keeps your frets to a perfect radius also. I used a fret level for my first few guitars before i tried it this way. Saved me a lot of time, and the guitars came out playing better
You can also take an unfretted, radiused fingerboard blank, cover it with wax paper and slather on Bondo to mold your own radiused blocks.
Great video Tim! Another tip is to hook up with a local Luthier in your area. When I made my first Acoustic I didn't want to fool with the final fretting routine and set up of the guitar. So, for a nominal fee, I let him do all of that. Well worth the expense in my opinion. He was also very willing to share his knowledge and had many items that he no longer used or needed. I offered to purchase a few of the items but he wound up giving them to me just because I brought my guitar for him to work on. We became good friends after that. 👍👍🎸🎸😉😉
Awesome
80+ USD per hour with 1 hour minimums in my city. Final cost is normally more than the guitar cost new, so I do my own. Now I am up against my first acoustic and a saddle that is far too high and the tool for that (to keep it parallel and flat) is 52-200 USD which is so costly for what it is. I am wondering if there is anything else for that that is less expensive?
@@generalawareness101 If you were talking about taking some height off the bridge, you could use sandpaper on a piece of marble or other machined flat stone.
I love the way you present this information! Thanks for staying humble, helpful, open to learning, and being someone to look up to! These are all fantastic tips.
Great video!! You're so genuine as you talk about things and some great ideas too. The nail buffer, game changer. Cheers!
Im starting my project soon and this video is a blessing, thank you so much Tim!
Thanks for sharing ! This is very helpful and inspiring for a lot of people that do this as a hobby.
Hi Tim, this video is extraordinary ! Thanks for sharing, wishing you all the best life can offer 😊
Side note.... I bought a pair of Irwin end Nippers, then I just ground down the front to where it was flush enough to cut frets..
But a radius sanding block can be made very easily by running a scrap 2x4 SIDEWAYS through a 12" table saw. Works great
I use an old level too and double-stick-tape emery cloth to it for fret leveling, since it comes in narrow long strips. I love the nail-block tip and the setup jig from cheap rulers!
Just started watching you...what a blessing! I like your advice and knowledge. Thanks for sharing Tim!!
Thanks Tim, retired auto machinist and tech here, delving into this luthier stuff currently. Building a fret crowning device as we speak. An african blackwood i found is dense and hard. Hope it works! Worst case, ill need new frets
Nice share on tips, tricks, secrets & hacks. Your advice is more than helpful along with explainations & reasons WHY as well with HOW. Being a inventor as well as builder, it all validates your teaching skills on luthiery.
Thanks Tim! I'm just getting started and building my collection of tools. I appreciate you sharing your experiences and taking the time to make this extremely informative video. Thanks again!
Thank you very much for all the knowledge you sharing with us, greetings from Greece!
Great points Tim, there are so many tools... just keep an open mind and You be presently surprised with what is already available! Great videos!
Thanks for this great video Tim! The high end tools are great if you are doing a large volume of work, especially professionally on fine and expensive instruments. Your tips are perfect for most of my needs where I am working on my own gear and don't expect perfection.
Tim, thank you for all the wonderful words and also thank you for all the info you share while building your guitars. I've learned so much from watching your experiments over the years.
thanks man, and thanks for making awesome tools for the community.
Thanks for putting all of these in one place. It will be easier for me to find later. Thanks for sharing!
I love your brain Tim.
Oh I forgot...
AND... your giving heart of service.
You understand that wisdom is gained only by applying knowledge.
And you understand giving and receiving.
And you know that the teacher usually learns more than the students... via teaching.
Keep it coming please.
Thank you!
You're my brother.
Love you man.
Happy holidays to you and the fam.
Great tip on the use of the beam level, to level the frets. Thanks.
What an absolutely fantastic little video, Thank you !! Subscribed
Thanks for sharing. Bookmarked this video. I actually said rasp before you pulled them out lol, which I took as a sign that I'm going to be trying this soon. I have most of the tools, or access to them, and some old wood that's been left for dead, so-to-speak. Thanks for all the inspiration! My first goal is to make a body blank with a weathered fence plank top, I think it will look really cool.
Wow! I soooo loved this video. I have mad respect for you and anyone who uses their noodle, as well as the elbow grease to avoid spending the big bucks. I have just completed my 20th solidbody guitar, and i still use many of my home built tools. thanks for your work and sharing is caring. I have a couple of videos on my channel, incidentally playing #13 of my home builds. Thanks again, Rooster
Thanks for letting me know about skyscraper products, have been tempted to check them out.
Great vid. I just bought a small set of harbor freight nippers ($4.00) to mod into a fret puller. I filed the face flat and used an old chainsaw file on the interior of the closed nippers to create a nice interior sharp edge. Worked like a charm on my 76' FG165s. New frets going on soon...after I clean up the fret board.
I was always so worried about redressing the frets on my classical guitar, but now with some knowledge on the subject, I can do the job myself.
Thank you.
That slot in the sanding block is genius!
I have no clue how to build instruments and never will but I would love to learn how to mod my basses, and I come to your channel to watch you bass build videos! I would love to have a custom 6 string acoustic bass built like the one you did! Absolutely beautiful bass!!! Maybe one day!! Great content Tim!!!🙏
Thank you very much, Tim! Loved the video! I live in Brazil - we don't find every tool here, or they are quite expensive. I will surely use several tips from this video.
Not a guitar builder, but I have learned a lot of things from your videos.. you're never to old to learn, And you will never run out of things to learn..
This is amazing, extremely helpful and interesting! Thank you and keep up the great work!
I am very thankful the algorithm put your video in my feed.
I’m slowly amassing the tools to do my first fret job on a Strat. I recognize the DIY or alternate routes possible for the tools chosen. I know I get intimidated by guitar techs who do it professionally and have the pricy tools I can’t simply afford with doing it once every few years, if that. It’s good to see it’s possible to do a great job without the specialized stuff.
Thanks so much man ! I love learning tips and tricks from legends .
I used a small machinist square for a fret rocker, it did all the frets for most instruments! Thanks Tim!
nice and exactly! :)
Nice job sir ! So much knowledge in a small amount of time. Thanks!
It is a pity that you do not have a Spanish translation in the subtitles , you work is amazing !
Awesome, thanks for looking out! Is helpful 🤘
Great stuff Tim! I'll be making a few of these tools myself too. I probably need to bookmark this and come back to it later when I'm ready to build some of these.
I did find a video on YT somewhere on how to make a DIY radius block using a band saw and a simple radius jig. It came out good enough, not perfect, but it got me through that step, cost nothing because I used a scrap 2x4.
Regarding the tubing as a sanding block, if you have a belt sander you can true it up on that and get it level, that's what I did. 😎 Same method can be used for truing up the surface of the DIY notched straight edge too.
For polishing frets just always used green scotch brite & 0000 steel wool.
Yes 0000 steel wool, I tape off the pickups and use a magnet to clean up the dust.
Interesting video.
I had a screw broken in the headstock. Stewmac sells a retraction tool for that.
I used a scrap piece of brass tube. Cut teeth in it with my dremel and saved a lot of money (retractertool, shipping, tax and clearance)
Works like a charm.
I used a normal file for frets for a long time. Nailfiles too.
Just bought a rocker. Improvised for a long time.
Crownfile is very useful but a lot can be done with standard tools.
I use a level too.
Great video. I'm a hobby CBG maker, I've been at the hobby for about 5 years. I like the idea of using the Stanley knife blade as a fret rocker! I have just progressed on to adding frets so thanks for that. I just bought a soldering iron and I'm going to have a go at wiring a humbucker. Wish me luck folks!
wiring is not too hard, at least the simple, passive stuff I usually do like adding humbuckers and tone knobs. just carefully follow the diagrams and you'll be fine.
Thank you Tim.. i make cigar boox guitars but sometimes i have to use some tricks too.. your's are always handy .. thank you from italy
The nail buffing blocks are great. Less than 2 dollars, and the ones I use have four different grits. They are also good to raise the strings for spot leveling. Great video.
I just ordered some of the 4-sided ones as I'm down to my last 2-sided one :)
Super awesome video! What started out as a joke idea for a guitar that turned into me wanting to build it and lead to some discussion about how its hard to make a guitar this has me excited for the challenge without worrying about spending a ton of specialist tools since I already own al to of the alternative tools here. Super excited to give it a try here soon in the future!
glad to help! Your screen name is the right idea :)
I use an autobody hand sander from HF for fret leveling. works a treat
Thanks for the motivation. I glued up some old finger grooved pine for body over a month ago.
Just can't seem to find inspiration
for moving forward. Hoping to find some old wood for a kinda thick veneer top.
Well maybe next week anyway.
Love the neck layout tool you made!
Very nice video...and I'm happy to see someone else that can think outside the box....👍👍
I love this no-nonsense presentation and approach. At no point you're really saying "don't buy this, it's pointless", but more like "sure, you can get this if you want and it will work well, but if you don't want to commit to that, you can also do this and it will work". To quote a certain show, "this is the way" :)
Hi. I just want to thank you for this brilliant and very helpful video.
cheers!
Great video Tim
Tim!!! Thank you thank you thank you!
AWESOME video!
I don't think I would never attempt to build a guitar or fret a guitar from scratch but always appreciate someone showing a cheaper option to do anything. Great video dude!
Ha! I thought it was just me, glad to hear that other people just like to watch and learn $h*+ with absolutely zero intention of ever actually trying to build a guitar from scratch. I mean I can’t imagine... Anyway, kudos to you brave souls who do, and thanks for the reality check for the rest of us voyeurs out here! I really enjoyed watching this guy, besides being very knowledgeable, he seems like a good egg! Good vibes all around, ha ha! Hey, who knows, maybe one day I’ll break down and build a guitar? Later all - JD, Montréal
Awesome video!!! For the fret end cutter I took one of those rounded cutters from Harbor Freight and ground the curve flat on my 5 dollar bench grinder.
I started out using a discarded gift card or fake credit card with corners cut off as a fret rocker before upgrading to dedicated ones.
This is great information Tim. Thank You! 🙂
Thanks for the tips. very helpful.
Thank you Tim you’re awesome.
Wow, so many tools😳
I am neither a hobbiest nor a full time guitar maker, although I do play a little here and there.
I subbed to your chanel years ago to watch all your reclaimed builds, and have just stick around for the ride.😉
So glad I did.👍🏽
cheers. I've seen your name around here a long time for sure!
Thanks for the tip on the pole saw, I found one on Amazon for $20 that looks very nice
Hi Tim, I'm known locally as Mr.Fixit...and I'm the only musician at my church and do all my own Luthier Work. I've been using one of the four sided diamond grit honing blocks for knives to do my Fret board leveling. I usually use some sand paper that's got adhesive on the back to start off with then I use the block itself to finish em off. There was a local landscaper that was giving away pallets last year and we picked up a bunch...I just cut and sanded some small blocks frome these and then laid some sandpaper rough side up on a fret board and ran the wood back and forth to get the groove Goin. ...the use either double adhesive tape or trim adhesive and attach sandpaper to it. Then either use the bench grinder or a sander or mount sandpaper to the bench and sand the edges down to where the wooden block isn't quite as wide as the frets or as deep from the edge. I then back cut em or sand them to make for a usable handle built in to it. For my fret nippers I just took a flush cut plier and ground the end closer on the bench grinder. If a guy has a caliper set he can take hacksaw blades and bench grind them thinner to have nut slot files. I thought about spray adhesive on a real thin Guage guitar string and dipping them in a real fine sand. But the hacksaw blades ground thin work real well. I got a hold of an old junk guitar and I use a small saw or sand paper on its fret board so I have extra rosewood which I've mixed with a little bit of cinnamon for drop and fill superglue repairs on fretboard. The Cinnamon has a pretty violent reaction with superglue. A very small amount of brasso or the old Zenith wood touch up sticks work well for me as well. If a person can get hold of gel coat paint they can use tape and dam up any heavy cosmetic damage and fill it with the gel coat. Or using powdered wood putty they can mix a little acrylic paint in it to color a bigger fill. I've notched out cheap metal rulers for checking truss rods. I cut a small notch In the end of a digital caliper and this let's me measure how high the top of a fret is off the fret board and can instantly tell me how far off I am if I've got a fret buzz. I have a spark plug feeler Guage set for technical measuring but I generally just stack some coins. Something you never hear about is the bushings between. The post of the tuner heads and the screw on ends to turn the tuner keys. . . I personally like these tight and not to move real easily. But they will split and fall apart so I basically make my own out of just whatever plastic I can find and trace some small washers around them then cut em out and sand them. And they work awesome. I also take the gear off of thr cheaper opened faced tuners and I sand that inner post that bolts onto down just a tad and the screw as well and this takes out any play there. And I like to take channel locks and squeeze on the hooks that hold those spiraled shafts in so there's no play there either. Lately I've been taking needle files to the bridge and slotting it so I take the bridge pins and turn them around backwards but slotted and the pins reversed givesore sustain and a deeper tone I believe. Soon I'm going to experiment with either a porcelain or a glass saddle for an acoustic. If a guy just uses a few guitar necks to trace the end of for radius ,he can then make his own radius gages or find tubing and hold sandpaper on the tuning and then run the material you want to make the calls out of over the sandpaper . I've gotten a hold of an old sewing table and modified it to be a fold away Luther's center. Mounted a small vice and corner vice holes drilled for screw drivers and pens and fret wire. Places for straps . I'm going to mount an arbor press on a board with a hinge to fold under the bench. I'm thinking I want to put some slots in and make it so the pieces that support my neck while I'm working can lock in place and be tie downs for straps. I love making my own specialty tools and I've noticed recently a guy can hold his Lazer level from the side of the neck to easily see if it's level.
Awesome tips and tools!
side note: I almost learned the hard way, but when you print a pdf template for your fret board, make sure to do a large scale print at like a Staples or Office Depot, or anywhere that is capable. I printed mine off the computer and realized the fret lines were off enough that by the end of the board it was almost a 1/4" off. Large format printing was perfect.
woah.
You've got to be really careful printing. Printers cannot print right to the edge of the paper so they have a size setting, sometimes buried in the print driver advanced settings. The default is usually "fit to page" which reduces an 8.5x11 page to about 94 to 96% of true size. Set it at 100% and still check a vertical and horizontal line for accuracy!
Thank you so much for this. It was very helpful and of course you now have a new subscriber
I've made some great fret slotting, fret board cloning jigs with plywood and some pinch clamps. I made a fret press from an aluminum can crusher. I do as much on the cheap as I can.
Thank you, great video. I'm that person that likes to do my own fixes to my guitar. This really helps.
Love the drumstick hammer!
Very helpful video, thanks! 👍👍👍
Thank you, Tim!! A suggestion with the bull nose pliers. Reshape the end to fit closer to the neck. Just be careful to grind slowly and cool with compressed air or water. If you get to blue coloration while grinding you lose the temper/hardening. I'm still not comfortable enough to make my own necks but I really want to try now.
I'm not comfortable enough to grind the end of my pliers without screwing up the metal temper! lol
Great video! Been wanting to get into feet work on my basses one day ima own one of your killer fretless basses! Glad I found you
cheers. I'd love if you owned one, too. lol :)
My friend, your are a Eco hero. Thanx
You can also use the handle of a small combination square as a fret rocker.
Tim... Yes Hey notch a aluminum 40" ruler... alright great idea.
Razor blade rocker...
God bless you for sharing your discoveries and knowledge...
Thankyou so much Mr. Tim
Tool talk is very cool. Thanks.
Thanks for the great ideas and information...✈️✈️
I use a 3D printer to make various things around the shop, including sanding blocks with whatever radius I need. I've also made miter boxes, with slots at a slight angle for sawing fret slots, after the fretboard is cut to size. These are pretty easy things to design yourself using one of the free 3D design tools (I use Onshape). Oh, I've also 3D printed CAM clamps adding some aluminum bar stock from the hardware store. If you don't have a 3D printer, you may have a friend who will be happy to print some stuff, as long as you provide a spool of filament.
My local library has a 3d printer. I made a knob puller tool and a couple of skull shaped knobs to get my 3d printer certification.
Great stuff! Thanks Tim👍🏼✌🏼
Thanks for the tips!
Phenomenal video!
Thanks man... This helps. Im a wood shop living room guy. Everyone thinks I should buy this or that.. I love you speak to us little guys...
SCREW THE ESTABLISHMENT.
I'm a 'little guy,' too!
Great information. Thanks a million
Good stuff! Keep it up!
The drumstick hammer is my favorite, I'm going to make that, I've got a fat brass slug waiting for it.
Great stuff ! Thanks !
I’ve had some of the same ideas ..
THANKS a lot for the tips!! This video taught me a few tricks! :-)
A brass hammer is good because since brass is softer than steel you won't damage the frets by beating on them
Great video 👍
Thanks for the share to clean fretslots its possible to use the tip of a Japanese saw too by angling the saw and running the ✓tip level on pushstroke you can check the cut is clean if not it is possible to go over it and clean the cut by pushing it through it cleans aswel the fretslot
To the point information. Thank you!
Great video!
Handy info with another hobby I have... blacksmithing.