What parts of the law are still relevant to us today?
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- Which parts of the Old Testament law are still relevant to Christians today? From Ligonier’s 2015 National Conference, R.C. Sproul explains the difference between the ceremonial law, the civil law, and the moral law.
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These preachers have taught me the truth! I was a Mormon. Left the church because God showed me the truth!! I didn't know the full gospel and now I do!! God is good!!!
ivy thank you for your comment
@@regardtdebruin3180 I must edit my comment. These men were my foundation. Now I know the truth. And unfortunately these men don't preach the truth! They teach u can't lose your salvation yet the Bible says otherwise! They say faith alone the Bible says otherwise.... Yeah I don't follow these men anymore!
Sounds like you’ve changed theologies often and drastically .?
@@regardtdebruin3180 no just read the Bible and found out it's blanaced doesn't go all the right right and all the way left. That it is god but it's also us by are choices! How we pray and choose to live are lives.. if I pray and repent but keep doing a sin am I truly forgiven? Furthermore grace isn't unmerited kindness God gives. The Bible says it is merited that he only gives it to the humble. These men say the opposite. So these men have a different Doctrine then that of the Bible!!
seeker for gods heart, we do have different understandings and there are many reasons for that. We should keep studying and it sounds like that’s what you are doing. That’s great, nice talking with you, all the best...
Yeshua said , "if you love me you will obey my commandments".
And His command was to love
@@dahelmang love God and love your neighbour, and by keeping the first 4 laws you show your love to God, and by keeping the other 6 Commandments you show love to your neighbor
@@themasterking4186 you know there are more than 10 commandments right?
@@dahelmang No, there are only 10 commandments that are resumed in loving God and your neighbour. The other so called commands are laws given to Israel, they are usually called the sacrificial laws. Which just were a representation of what would Christ do for us in the cross.
@@themasterking4186 I don't know where you got that from. The 10 commandments were given to Israel to obey while Moses went up on Mount Sinai to receive the rest of the Torah. They agreed to obey but made a golden calf while Moses was gone and worshipped it.
Psalm 40:8. Thy law is within my heart.
Love God and love your neighbours...on these hang the Law and the Prophets...
This is the love of God ( 1 John 5:3-5 ) THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you love the Lord you will keep his commandments, if you love your neighbour you will keep his commandments. Why is it so hard for people to grasp this law the first 4 are your service to God and the remaining 6 are your service to your fellow man simple
@@opportunix Because man hath twisted words , and people say things without meaning . Most people who call themselves Christians , would say that you are to obey the ten commandments , but they transgress the Sabbath day , create idols as their symbol to depict their faith in the God of Israel ; and they will use the same line of : Love God and love neighbours ... on these hang the law and the prophets ...
In other words, the ten commandments.
I wish you elaborated on that. It might give the impression that loving your neighbours is distinct from the command not to steal, or that loving God is distinct from observing the shabbath. If one loves God, they ought to do what God says. If one loves their neighbours, they ought not steal their neighbours, not give false testimonies about them.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. Matt.5:17-18 (continue through verse 20)
The relevance of the law has changed between the Old & New Covenant. In the OT, they worked from outside forcing man to keep it, in order to receive from God (expectation).
In the NT, however the laws have come inside the born-again child. Today the working of these laws are a natural outcome of a redeemed, Holy Spirit filled life. Because the indwelling Spirit works from within as a result of having received Jesus Christ (there's no more expectation).
🛡️Philippians 2:13
"[Not in your own strength] for it is God Who is all the while effectually at work in you [energizing and creating in you the power and desire], both to will and to work for His good pleasure and satisfaction and delight"
In the OT it has also been done from the inside. The Lord doesn't change. People in the OT are saved the same way as people in the NT/today.... By faith in Jesus-Christ(God)!
@@famousdomo0716
God doesn't change. But the way He works is different in before & after the advent of the Messiah. What was going to happen under the New Covenant was already prophesied in the Old Covenant.
🔸Ezekiel 36
26) I will also give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit within you. I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. 27) I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes. You will keep my ordinances and do them.
28) You will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers. You will be my people, and I will be your God.
29) I will save you from all your uncleanness.
Under the Old Covenant, there was no universal Spirit of God. He would come at times when He needed to act. It was not a permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
🔸Jn 14:16
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever"
The law no longer exists in a written format. God has written it into the hearts of His born-again (unlike the Torah carrying Old Covenant people).
🔸Heb 10
15) The Holy Spirit also testifies to us, for after saying,
16) “This is the covenant that I will make with them
after those days,” says the Lord,
“I will put my laws on their heart,
I will also write them on their mind;”
Under the Old Covenant we couldn't go near to God.
🔸Exo3:5
Do not come any closer,” God said. “Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.”
Under the New Covenant however
🔸Heb 10
19) Having therefore, brothers, boldness to enter into the holy place by the blood of Jesus,
20) by the way which he dedicated for us, a new and living way, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh,
21) and having a great priest over God’s house,
22) let’s draw near with a true heart in fullness of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and having our body washed with pure water,
23) let’s hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering; for he who promised is faithful.
🔸Heb4:16
So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.
This is possible because our Savior has become our Holiness (Jn17:19, 1Cor1:30) & we have been imputed His Holiness.
But most importantly:
Under the Old Covenant, His people were called servants (Job 1:8, Ps 89:20) but under the Covenant of the Savior's blood His redeemed have become His children.
🔸Rom 8:15
For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”
Jesus has redeemed us from this fear causing spirit of slavery to become His own children.
God is the same.
The Son has given His blood washed a privilege different from those who were justified through faith in a promise (under the Old Covenant).
🔸Mt 11:11
“I tell you the truth, of all who have ever lived, none is greater than John the Baptist. Yet even the least person in the Kingdom of Heaven is greater than he is!"
Very well put. This is the truth. I tried to explain this to my uncle because he believes in following the law
@@edwardgeorge8232
🙋🏻♂️ Amen!
Amen God bless u so beautiful put
Miss you RC! Glad you have moved on to your reward and rest. Just need the teaching here to keep going and not stay in the middle space. Another wise man once said "There is only Theonomy or Autonomy" so which one are we to abide in as faithful Christians?
A whole theology packed into one short answer. Amazing.
Hahahaha
Theres a lot more to it than that cupcake haha
Dr.R.C Sproul was great help for me(I studied Systematic Theology)
This is a wonderful answer to the question of tithing. I don't understand why all the church hasn't accepted it as it is so clearly scriptural. Cain and Abel gave the first fruits, Abraham and Jacob clearly gave tithes to God, or 10%. All of this existed before the law of Moses and therefore it stsnfs to reason, will exist after the law Moses has been fulfilled by the Lord Jesus Christ. I think most Christians are afraid to tithe. But they would be amazed at the ongoing blessings on their life and finances if they did. When you first start tithing you will be tested with it. But if you choose to be faithful you will begin to see the blessings that never end your entire life. In fact they increase. God be praised.
AMEN, Oh How I Love Your Law Lord God
Not bad!! Not the most complete way of looking at it, but pretty good answer. And the concern being confronted is very real and this is an excellent cause to discuss.
There's no way to read the New Testament without noticing its reliance on the law of Moses. Jesus did not abolish the law but fulfilled it.
Indeed the Law of the God is the Transcription of God's character. But let us remember His Sabbath day, the fourth commandment, that He sanctified and made holy, the law that is forgotten it is why God said to us "Remember".
I LOVE THIS!!! THANK YOU!!
Christ is my righteousness he fulfilled the law because he knew we would break it The just for the unjust this is Good news the Gospel.
"Since we live by the Spirit let us also walk by the Spirit." "What possesses you to turn back to bondage?" "Does a dog return to its own vomit?"
We are not judged and condemned by the power of the law anymore, because all of us fail and leads us to death. Jesus fulfilled the whole Law perfectly, imputed us His perfect righteousness and reconciled us to the Father. Thats the theme of the Good News.
The Law will stand until the time is fulfilled because it still has a job to do. Not to save, but to bring condemnation that leads to repentance and true salvation in Jesus Christ. Let us not trample on the Law of God because it has a holy use and some of it (as RC stated here) is a revelation of Gods character!
Amen.
Yeah, but if you truly believe in Jesus then you would truly obey the laws of God the way He wants it; not legalistic obedience but in spirit and truth. Romans 5,6
So you dont sin?
I do not change, sums it up pretty well
1:10 correct, God's moral character are the ten commandments. Unfortunately, this group of theologians believe the Sabbath can be changed based on their own authority...
There are a lot more than ten and you have no clue what they are talking about cultboy
The sabbath is rest IN JESUS
Interesting fact...NO WHERE in the Bible (KJV) are the terms, "ceremonial", "ritual" or "moral" law ever used. So one must ask themselves from where did these classification come??? Because they surely were never made by The Most High. This is a man made classification/distinction, or as the Messiah would call it, "tradition of men", so as to negate any and/or all obligation to obey The Law of The Most High. This is what is know as leaning on one's own understanding which we are told not to do.
Mark 7:7-9 KJV
"7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
Proverbs 3:5-6 KJV
"5 Trust in יהוה with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight."
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Do you believe in the trinity? The hypostatic union? The great exchange? None of these words in the Bible and all true doctrine.
@@crystalhaataja304 that doesn't make other things that aren't in the bible also true, just because they are also not in the bible.
Do you know what is in the Bible and undeniable? Is that 10 Commandments are covered by the blood of the sacrifice. The Ten Commandments is the testimony of the moral character of God.
Now I'm more confused
Thank God for that!
Read the old testament through the new testament the law is not done away with the penalty of transgressing the law which is death is this is what grace is the hebrew concept of believe is believe and obey obey what? God's laws.
@@draxthedestroyer2442 please proofread and add punctuation if you are hoping to adequately explain a concept to someone on the internet. I don’t know what you said or meant.
Confused, because a Sunday keeper, is saying to obey the ten commandments?
No need to be confused. Maybe this will help.
The End of the Sabbath Law
- What law of commandments separated Jews from Gentiles? The Law of Moses! One of those commandments was to observe the Sabbath. Ephesians 2:11-15
- Today we are dead to the Law of Moses. That is the same law that said, 'You shall not covet' and also said, 'Remember the Sabbath day; to keep it holy.' The entire Law of Moses was nailed to the cross. Romans 7:4-7
- The only reason that we are not to covet today is because the Law of Christ commands us! Romans 13:9, Hebrews 10:1, 9
- Those who appeal to the old law make make themselves a debtor to do the whole old law. Galatians 5:2-3
Where in the scriptures can I find the distinction between moral law, civil law, and ceremonial law and where is it that God said we don’t have to follow one or the other?
Nowhere. Praise yah we know the truth
The only distinction is the difference between the Ten Commandments and the book of law. The Ten Commandments is moral law, we know this because it's covered with blood over the mercy seat. The book of law is kept outside of the Ark of the testimony and is not covered with blood.
@@michaelstaggs1880 yeah, you sound like the arbiter of God's covenant. Meanwhile in reality, the blood covered the ten commandments, NOT the book of law.
@@michaelstaggs1880 the levitical ritual of the Tabernacle is not dogma. The blood covers the moral law that condemns us, covered by The Mercy Seat on the ark of the testimony. That is a fact, and you're just going to have to deal with it.
@@jonnbobo ok, so if what you’re saying is true, the 4th Commandment, Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy, is moral law. Why do some call it ceremonial law?
I wish he would use examples and address common confusions and misconceptions. Like, go down to a 10 foot view.
For instance, a 10-foot-view question he could have answered was, “can we eat pork?” or “can we wear clothes of multiple materials?”.
Does eating pork not glorify God? Does the wearing of clothes of multiple materials not glorifying God? Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all things for the glory of God. - 1 Corinthians 10:31
@@wetlandweasel
So going against the commandments of God bring glory to him? Wow makes perfect sense.
Right, I agree, that was as clear as mud.
What did God do to the animals in Peters vision? Hint: Written in the Bible. I totally respect people that dont eat pork. I do wonder they believe in the new testment? Or if they are offended of people that do? 1corinthians 10 is clear. But we all fail at one time or another at this perfect respect and love. We have all fallen
Yes you can eat Pork God the angel of the Lord said do not call unclean what God have made clean in the NT when God sent the angel to tell one of the disciples to eat things that they commanded unclean and
Jesus said it's not what goes into ur belly that makes u unclean but what comes out of her heart through ur mouth and yes u can wear clothes just be modest
We follow, not an external marker, but an internal Life.
Answer:
Just about all of them.
Exodus 12:49
One law shall be for the native-born and for the stranger who dwells among you.”
Yah says there is one Law, churches today say there is the “moral law, dietary law, ceremonial law, ect.”
God was speaking to a specific people (Israel)
@@agirl8313 and Isaiah 11:11 and Roman’s 11 both speak of us being grafted in to Israel. We are no longer gentiles we are Israel.
Keep the Sabbath holy, a Law that people don’t remember
The same God who inspired Moses in Old Testament times to command Israel to 'Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy..later inspired Paul to command Christians in these New Testament times to 'let no one judge you regarding sabbaths.'" The Pauline commandment was given after the Mosaic commandment, and therefore clearly has precedence over it. Consequently, those who today would require Christians to observe Sabbaths, or who would judge them for not doing so, are clearly violating the New Testament commandment of God. God approves the Christian who "esteems every day alike" (Rom 14:5) and commands him to "let no one judge you regarding sabbaths."
Here is a glorious explanation: "sabbaths are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ." The substance or body of Christ belongs to these New Testament times, the days of the gospel. These New Testament times began when He was incarnate in human flesh, when "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14) as "God manifested in the flesh" (1 Tim 3:16; 1 John 1:1). The body of Christ is here presented as having cast a shadow into the previous Old Testament times, the days of the law. His shadow included the Old Testament Sabbaths, which are here called "a shadow of things to come."
Note the contrast between Sabbaths and Christ. They are but shadows, but He is the substance (or body) who cast them. A shadow is but an imperfect representation of the one who casts it.
Accordingly, the rests which were enjoyed in Sabbaths were but imperfect types of the rest which is enjoyed in Christ.
1) Sabbath rests were physical rests, for the body; Christ's rest is spiritual rest, for the soul. He accordingly invites us to "Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.... you will find rest for your souls" (Matt 11:28).
2) Sabbath rests were observed for only one day of the week (after which the observer had to go back to work) and had to be constantly repeated; Christ's rest is observed once for all. We are therefore taught that "he who has entered [Christ's] rest has himself also ceased [forever] from his works as God did from His" (Heb 4:10).
3) Sabbath rests were observed by many who died in unbelief even by many of the worst enemies of Christ (see Mark 3:1-6); Christ's rest is enjoyed only by those who believe in Him (Heb 4:3): "For we who have believed do enter that rest." God says to the former, "So I swore in My wrath, they shall not enter My rest" (Heb 4:3). But He says to the latter, "I will give you rest" (Matt 11:28).
The shadow cast by a coming loved one may be considered very dear. But when that loved one has himself arrived, his shadow is forsaken and his body is embraced. In like manner, the Sabbaths in Old Testament times were to be considered "a delight" (Isa 58:13). But when the One who cast those shadows has Himself arrived, His shadow is forsaken and His body is embraced, for He is far more delightful. Believers today have accordingly forsaken Sabbath-keeping and commenced Christ-keeping.
Have your forsaken Sabbath-keeping and found that far greater rest in Jesus Christ. If you have:
"Therefore let no one judge you regarding sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.
@@terrygreenman1540 What translation are you using sir?
@@doyoy2498 I am used to KJV/NIV and or... Does it matter? I'm not a KJV onlyist, or a RED LETTER Bible onlyist.
@@terrygreenman1540
_The problem of doing away with the law_
If we can do away then we contradict what the Lord Jesus Christ says.
Matthew 24:20 GNT
Pray to God that you will not have to run away during the winter or on a Sabbath!
Our Lord is talking about the last days here. It is after his resurrection. If it was done away why would he forbid us to run on the last days?
It would also contradict what he said in Matthew 5:17-20 GNT
“Do not think that I have come to do away with the Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets. I have not come to do away with them, but to make their teachings come true. Remember that as long as heaven and earth last, not the least point nor the smallest detail of the Law will be done away with-not until the end of all things. So then, whoever disobeys even the least important of the commandments and teaches others to do the same, will be least in the Kingdom of heaven. On the other hand, whoever obeys the Law and teaches others to do the same, will be great in the Kingdom of heaven. I tell you, then, that you will be able to enter the Kingdom of heaven only if you are more faithful than the teachers of the Law and the Pharisees in doing what God requires.
Those teachers of the Law and Pharisees legalized it to the point that what they say is not even commanded in the scripture, they have forgotten the true meaning, which is the Lord God Jesus Christ. As it is said in Colossians 2:16-17 but it is not done away with. I will explain below.
It would also contradict on what Paul did.
Acts 16:13 GNT
On the Sabbath we went out of the city to the riverside, where we thought there would be a place where Jews gathered for prayer. We sat down and talked to the women who gathered there.
Acts 18:4 GNT
He held discussions in the synagogue every Sabbath, trying to convince both Jews and Greeks.
Luke 23:56 GNT
Then they went back home and prepared the spices and perfumes for the body. *On the Sabbath they rested, as the Law commanded.*
"As the Law commanded."
Argument: it was only for Israelites
Answer:
Genesis 2:2-3 GNT
By the seventh day God finished what he had been doing and stopped working. He blessed the seventh day and set it apart as a special day, because by that day he had completed his creation and stopped working.
This was the time of Adam and Eve. There already was a Sabbath since the beginning. Were Adam and Eve Israelites? I dont think so.
1 Corinthians 11:1 GNT
Imitate me, then, just as I imitate Christ.
We are to imitate what the Apostles did. And they obeyed the Lord's command. The difference is that back then its by fear and legalism. Not of love. Now its written on our hearts not done away with. Because it would also contradict what the Lord says in Hebrews 8:10 GNT
Now, this is the covenant that I will make with the people of Israel in the days to come, says the Lord: *I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts.* I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Where did the law go then if we done away the Sabbath. Its not in our minds then.
James 2:10-11 GNT
Whoever breaks one commandment is guilty of breaking them all. For the same one who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Even if you do not commit adultery, you have become a lawbreaker if you commit murder.
So if you break the least like the Sabbath because the one who said "Do not commit adultery" also wrote the Sabbath.
Proof that God predicted that a lot of his people will forget about it.
Exodus 20:8 GNT
*“Observe* the Sabbath and keep it holy.
Exodus 20:8 KJV
*Remember* the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exodus 20:8-11 NIV
*“Remember* the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.
In most translations its the only commandment that starts with "Remember"
_Verses used to justify sin_
Colossians 2:16-17 GNT
*So let no one make rules about what you eat or drink* or about holy days or the New Moon Festival or the Sabbath. All such things are only a shadow of things in the future; the reality is Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17 NASB1995
*Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink* or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17 NIV
*Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink,* or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.
Colossians 2:16-17 KJV
*Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink,* or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Its saying that no one should judge you on a Holy Day or a religious festival on what you eat. It stands! If it was done away with, why would he say *Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink* _Not Let no man therefore judge you for not obeying Holy Days._ I believe what he was saying is that the rules about eating only bread without no yeast in unleavened bread is now in the spirit, not of the flesh.(1 Corinthians 5:8) The Lamb in passover is now our Lord God Jesus Christ instead of physical animal Lamb.(1 Corinthians 5:7)
_we are to keep the Holy Days because the Bible says so_ The shadow part says that we should not focus on the Holy Days or rely on them to the point that we will forget the meaning, the substance, which is our Lord God Jesus Christ. _Remember that salvation is not to be earned_ but a gift. *The Holy Days remind us of our sins and help get closer to God, at the same time we are loving him because he commanded it.* Instead of us keeping pagan days like Christmas, Birthday, Halloween, Easter(which is a mistranslation of the word "Passover" in Acts 12:4 KJV or "pascha" in Strong's G3957 in the New King James Version NKJV they fixed it.) with the eggs, bunnies and etc, any festivals that are not in the Bible is dangerous. The Sabbath is also proof that God is the authority of our lives not us. *Note that even if you keep these this will not save you. Its how you show love for God. The one who saves you is faith in the Lord God Jesus Christ.*
Jesus answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ *This is the greatest and the most important commandment.* The second most important commandment is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as you love yourself.’ *The whole Law of Moses and the teachings of the prophets depend on these two commandments.”*
Nowhere does it say that the Sabbath is done away with nor are the Holy Days. It is summarized in 2 commands. The rest you find it in the Bible.
*Paul kept the Holy Days and commanded us to keep it.(Passover, Pentecost etc.* In a new way. The way of the spirit. Not in the way of the flesh.
Colossians 2:16-17 GNT
*So let no one make rules about what you eat or drink* or about holy days or the New Moon Festival or the Sabbath. All such things are only a shadow of things in the future; the reality is Christ.
1 Corinthians 5:7-8 GNT
You must remove the old yeast of sin so that you will be entirely pure. Then you will be like a new batch of dough without any yeast, as indeed I know you actually are. For our Passover Festival is ready, now that Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us celebrate our Passover, then, not with bread having the old yeast of sin and wickedness, but with the bread that has no yeast, the bread of purity and truth.
Acts 20:16 GNT
Paul had decided to sail on by Ephesus, so as not to lose any time in the province of Asia. He was in a hurry to arrive in Jerusalem by the day of Pentecost, if at all possible.
If you do not agree let me know. And prove it or test it.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 GNT
Put all things to the test: keep what is good
1 Thessalonians 5:21 KJV
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
2 Timothy 3:16-17 GNT
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching the truth, rebuking error, correcting faults, and giving instruction for right living, so that the person who serves God may be fully qualified and equipped to do every kind of good deed.
TL;DR there is way too many proof that supports the Holy Days are not done away with. Than it is to be done away with.
May God's grace, mercy, peace be with us all!
@@doyoy2498 Oh BOY do you play Scripture HOP SCOTCH to make an invalid and an excuse may I add, to point out of mis interpretation of Scripture. Whew...
Secondly....As Job in Chapter 38:2 says "Who is this who darkens counsel, By words without knowledge? "
Taking you one point at a time.
Matthew 24:20 GNT
Pray to God that you will not have to run away during the winter or on a Sabbath!
Why would Jesus say such a thing if Christians are not obligated to keep the Sabbath anymore? I have to admit it sounds like a convincing piece of evidence. No wonder this is a favorite verse used by Sabbath keepers to prove their point.
Let’s examine the text. Jesus is answering direct question asked by His disciples: "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Matthew 24:3. Jesus answers, talking about His second coming, but He’s mixing it with another event, which is to come first - the destruction of Jerusalem. "So when you see standing in the holy place 'the abomination that causes desolation,' spoken of through the prophet Daniel-let the reader understand- then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down to take anything out of the house. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath.” Note in verse 15, Jesus makes reference to the Daniel’s prophecy (Daniel 11:31, Daniel 12:11), which we know points to the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. History tells us, this took place in 70 AD.
Since we know which event Jesus is talking about, let’s look at the three things He mentions and let us try to understand why:
1. Pregnant women and nursing mothers - I think it’s quite obvious why it would be difficult or even impossible for them to flee the city.
2. Winter conditions - again it is obvious cold and snow would make the evacuation and survival difficult.
3. Sabbath - Jerusalem was predominantly Jewish city, which kept the Law. All inhabitants of the city and this includes all Christians, were subject to certain rules. In Nehemiah 13:19-22 we see that the gates of the city were closed on the Sabbath. How can the Christians or anyone for that matter escape if the gates are closed? It would certainly be a difficult thing to do. This is why Jesus told His disciples to pray so that their flight will not be on the Sabbath.
Those readers who still think that in Matthew 24:20, Jesus wanted to emphasize on the importance of the Sabbath, must also believe that our Lord expected His followers to sacrifice their lives in order to keep the Sabbath. This is rather illogical conclusion when we know this same Jesus said “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” (Mark 2:27), this is the same Jesus who will not condemn a man for taking his farm animal out of the ditch on Sabbath. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe Christ would allow Sabbath breaking in order to save the life of a goat or a donkey, but at the same time would condemn men for running to save their lives on Sabbath.
Christ fulfilled all the law, even the moral law of the 10 commandments
To be under the law of Christ is to be under the law of love, which by the Holy Spirit you are led to imitate Jesus with His self sacrificial love for God and others
I don’t think we can say Jesus fulfilled this but not that, he either fulfilled all of it or none of it. Might I note though that not murdering your neighbor is obviously the loving thing to do. But there is a greater degree to which the Holy Spirit empowers us to love. Murder begins with anger in the heart. And this is what Jesus talks about in Matthew when He expands upon the law and goes deeper into what it truly means to love God and your neighbor
For this is the love of Elohiym, that we guard his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. YOCHANON RI'SHON (1 John) 5:3
“For this commandments that I am commanding you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it far off.
- Deuteronomy 30:11
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. YOCHANON SHENIY ( 2 John )1:-6
If ye love me, guard my commandments. YOCHANON (John) 14:15
Think not that I am come to destroy the Torah, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For amein I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one yod or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the Torah, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these LEAST commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven: but whosoever shall DO and TEACH them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Parashiym, ye shall in no case enter into the Kingdom of YAH.
MATTITHYAHU (Matthew) 5:17-20
L HOW DID THE LAW COVENANT BECOME "OBSOLETE"?
However, the Law covenant became in a sense "obsolete" when God announced by means of the prophet Jeremiah that there would be a new covenant. (Jer. 31:31-34; Heb.8:13) In 33 C.E. the Law covenant was canceled on the basis of Christ's death on the torture stake (Col; 2:14), the new covenant replacing it.---Heb. 7:12; 9:15; Ac 2:1-4.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them , the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:17-19 KJV
Miss you dr sproul
Only the aspects of the Ceremonial Law that related to the Temple sacrifice have been abolished (which we Jews recognize in the T'filah "Adonai open up my lips that my mouth may declare your praise") we see the animal sacrifice as having been replaced by the "fruit of lips" which the new Testament mentions in the book of Hebrews. But we still think that God commands and blesses us in keeping the dietary, purity laws and other rituals (as Jews live longer on average, have lower crime rates/lower divorce rates)
Abolished by whom?
All the law has been fulfilled and is DONE.
@@macumus Have Heaven and Earth past away yet? ( Matt. 5:17-19 and Luke 16:17)
What are dietary law considered in which of the 3 laws
Wake up Leave Babylon!!!! While there still a Time!!!!
I can’t tell if it’s Babylon or the 2nd exodus from Egypt
Paul recognised no such distinction in the law
John Goodwin so do you understand Paul to enforce circumcision and dietary laws?
@@regardtdebruin3180 Paul neither enforced so called moral or ceremonial law
He absolutely did, Colossians 2
He distinguished between the law of Christ and the law of Moses.
@@johnalbent can you clarify what you mean because it sounds like a contradiction to say its authoritative and at the same time say we aren't bound by it
Everybody must keep God's LAWS STATUTES & COMMANDMENTS period... All of them. Not just the decalogue.
Most of the 613 laws of Halakha are rabbinic, takannah, or gezeirah,_ of which Jesus stated:
"Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." (Mark 7:7)
The practice of Judaism is not required for salvation, which is why gentile believers do not have to be circumcised, as Paul states clearly in Romans 3:30. Jesus taught we must be baptized and keep the ten Commandments (Mark 10:19) to inherit eternal life. Are you asserting that gentiles must be circumcised to be saved?
@@PETERJOHN101 Exactly Halakha are based on tulmud man made B.S not the laws statutes and commandments found in the scriptures. So why are you infering I'm saying to keep them is beyond me and perhaps you must reread what I typed in ALL CAPS again
Never mind, I now see you are from the "lost" tribe of "Black Israelites" preaching your false racist gospel.
@@PETERJOHN101 how is it false when you just agreed with me that we must keep the mosaic commandments to receive eternal life 🤦🏿♂️
@@PETERJOHN101 Jesus never taught to keep only the 10 commandments. He clearly said even the least of the commandments. (Matthew 5:17-20) don't make Jesus a transgressor of the law or a hypocrite by saying that He was lighter on the law than the Lawgiver. He is the Lawgiver. nobody is claiming that the law should be observed for salvation and in the NT there are over a thousand commands, not a mere 613 of which are split between men, priests, women, farmers, judicial instructions, feast details, punishments etc etc.
I don't like the way this guy is putting it. Doesn't ligonier ministries invite John MacArthur to their pulpit? Don't they listen to John MacArthur teach on the law? We are not under the law of Moses as believers.
If the word is “Torah”, translated as law, means God’s instructions, it seems wrong to say , “I’m a Christian, so I’m not under God’s instruction”.
@@ctreycook1971 We are not under the penalty of the law, which means the law has no jurisdiction over us. We are not outside of the realm of Gods instructions but our instructions have changed under the new covenant. Everything we need to know about to follow Christ is found in the new testament. There are things within the OT that can help us to understand the NT but ultimately, in the end it comes down to what is written in the NT.
@@ctreycook1971 also in the new Testament we are called to follow the Holy Spirit, who leads us and empowers us into living a holy life before God. Not follow after the law.
Christ the only hope I see the truth in this. I was actually just thinking of the devotion to God’s Word shown in Psalm 119 (law, commands, statutes, precepts). I am glad to recognize “the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus” and to be free from old law of sin and death. Amen.
You are in grave error if you believe the Law of Moses is the same as the Law of YHWH... HIS 10 COMMANDMENTS! They are totally distinct. YHWH wrote the 10 Commands with His own finger, in STONE! The Bible clearly teaches that Moses wrote the Law of Moses in a book. Modern Christians are also blind and/or deceived to the truth that there are 2 types of Sabbaths! The Ceremonial Sabbaths of Leviticus 23, which were shadows and temporal. And the 7th Day Sabbath, the 4th Commandment, that almost all Christians break all their lives! WHAT A SHAME THAT SATAN HAS ACHIEVED THIS TRAVESTY!
All
Of the laws!
Please watch on CZcams "Who Changed the Sabbath" by Pastor CD Brooks
The unrighteous say in thier mouth by way of self righteousness, "We do not want your truth! We pay much to our pophets to give us these lies. Give us that which we demand and not of what The Lord commands! For now we can trample our wicked dances upon the blood of righteousness in freedom! No more do ye have the right to uphold that old way unto us! Speak our tongue and dance our dance, lest ye be a blasphemer of our new religeon. For our numbers are many, and in solitude and praise will our traditions abolish the written grieviance our hearts reject. Though He is the Author of religeon, it now belongs to us to cultivate as we deem. Go away ye demon, and impose ye not upon our made up light! For we shall bombard thee with the arrows of our hypocracy, that ye may be slandard of our own holy way."
Dr Sproul was a true Bible detective 🙏
Brothers and Sisters,
Please watch "What was nailed to the Cross" by Pastor CD Brooks
I have great faith that I will see this man in Heaven or New Earth should I make it in.
I hope you have great Faith in Christ that he'll bring you there.
Otherwise how could I have made my previous statement?
@@SherrickDuncan You said "Should I make it there".
You sounded more sure of him than you did yourself.
Is that Russell Moore on stage in the middle? My....how times have changed. 1 John 2:19
R.C. Sprouls contradicts him self many times here.
Clayton Lenhart this is the true gospel that they are representing. Not under the Law means not having to answer to it. If we have not committed a crime we are not under the Law. We will not have to defend ourself. It does not mean that there is no more Law that we have to be obedient to. It is very good, because the person sitting next to you in church might be a murderer or a thief or a pedophile and he still need to come to the conclusion that the law is trying to show him the right way. Towards Christ. And if we condemn the Law....how will he start believing that he has to obey it and furthermore, why do you want to be protected by it if you hate it?
If you think he's bad here, read his book, "Chosen by God." It is entirely full of contradictions, but old RC is help up to be such a brain and so godly. He's actually a phony and a pompous ARSE.
ANTI-Torah preachers will the LEAST in the Kingdom of HEAVEN. ( Matt. 5:17-19)
The ceremonial laws were special sabbaths apart from the 7th day sabbath they coincided with the feast which were nailed to the cross hence the curtain in the most holy was rent from the top to bottom not the other way round
Why were the Jews exiled from the promised land in 70 AD?
@@jacksoncorp124 what does this have to do with anything?
@@raygunn965 It means everything. Can you answer the question, or do you have no idea why?
This moral/ceremonial law distinction that some suggest is not Biblical. Romans 10:4 says, “Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.” He is not merely its termination; He is the one who offers righteousness, the goal or aim which the law intended. Righteousness cannot be achieved by keeping laws. It requires forgiveness, and that is obtained in Christ (Ephesians 1:7). Are you in Him?
@@kac0404 But if we love Him, we will keep His commandments
Can I break the law on Saturday and make up for it by talking about it on Sunday?... 🤔 Why do we even keep Sunday as sacred when there's no 'scriptural' instruction to, in contrast to what there is scriptural instructions to follow especially from our Saviors own example. Luke 4:16
It's not a case of whether the Law is still active or not, we are created according to the Law, the Law God gave us was before we were, how dare we quesion it's purpose. The Law is written in our hearts, and in our conciousness. You can have any opinion you want, but not respecting the Law means you transgress the first and second commandment. People who do not respect the Law (which also means the preaching of the Law in its Biblical truth, but quote some verse and put it out of contex) , also lie through preaching a faulty Gospel, another commandment transgressed, not to mention all the hatred and violence they show towards people who ask questions to test them if they're really good people according to the Law. Often people think they're good people, little do they know God's standard are far higher. God demands moral EXCELLENCE which is impossible for any human to achieve as we ALL have a sinful nature. The LAW shows us we can NEVER live up to this standard. It humbles us before God. This realisation will draw someone towards Christ. Because without him WE ARE ALL FILTHY AN CORRUPT, anyone who denies this is not a follower of Jesus PERIOD. So please church stop rationalizing your cowardness through putting the Word out of context, or even leaving essential parts out (like the Commandments). This will just add to the wrath of God, which you will experience if you do not commit to the TRUTH.
Absolutely brother. But then majority of Protestant churches believe and claim that there is no need of the OT law, how wrong they are! I used to think the same also! But God revealed it to me! Praise be to God always!
We should teach the Mosaic Law but it is impossible to follow as there is no temple to bring sacrifices to. Remember that we are called to obey the Law of Christ as Gentile believers.
God gave the Law to Moses for guiding the children of Israel. He didn’t give it to Adam, Noah, or even Abraham. He gave it to the Hebrews, the nation of Israel. Today however, God’s people are known as Christians - those who are of Christ, His Son. We are not Hebrews, or Jewish, nor Israelites. Therefore, we are not obligated or subject to that law - their law - in any way. The Old Testament (Covenant) was given specifically for them. Why then, would anyone want to use and apply things from that old law, such as tithing, or priestly clothing, or anything else that is not commanded of the Christian?
Thank you! 🙏🏻☝🏻
I am a Gentile. 1. The gentleman starts by saying that to the Jew all the laws are moral. I would suggest that, if the protestant distinction (between moral and ceremonial) is actually significant, then the (protestant identification of) so-called OT ceremonial law would be more important than the the so-called moral aspects of the law... because ceremonial law signifies redemption from so-called moral corruption, and, even in the distortions of protestantism, redemption defines the ultimate and original righteousness of grace. 2. Simply put, "What the law could not do..." does not mean its intentions were bad but that it was in no way a capable medium of obedience or conformity in religious attempts to conform to the Image of God/Christ. One is not anti-law in any corrupt sense; one simple knows from the Bible and from experience, before and after "conversion", that the objective moral mandates of Moses are utterly impotent; in fact there righteous intention is utterly damning and, in the circumstances of the constitution of humanity, downright counter productive to the righteousness of God in Christ (Roman 7). 3. As I said, I am a Gentile. The contortions the gentleman goes through to establish or sustain Moses (despite 2 Cor 3:7-11) make a lawyer class in religion essential, i.e., experts who can sort out all these distinctions and their implications and then apply "the protestant 3 uses of the law" in burdensome sermons and catechism classes. For an understanding of the historical doctrine of the three uses of (Moses) Law, see (You Tube: "The Three Uses of the Law" (in 90 seconds). Dr. Reeves short presentation of this incorrect dogma is accurate as a report of the reformation teaching, but I say that it is, nevertheless, a flawed set of propositions. In the practice of preaching and exhortation, I do not object to preaching Christ from the Decalogue, or from the inscriptions on the devil's gravestone for that matter, I object to the psychology of prescription-prohibition urging as implied in far too many sermons and exhortations as if it were not the vision of Christ that makes all the differences in Christianity. Even if you don't like Christianity, THAT is the theory! If there is a lack in outworking, it is not for want of law, it is because of the shadow of law; it is not for the lack of brilliant in Christ but the abundance of shadowy clouds surviving the discontinuity between Old and New Testaments and Commandments. Behold! A new commandment I give unto you...! The old stone administration and all its particulars are powerless except for their capacity to condemn, discourage and stir up the flesh! holy though it may be (Rom 7). Saul was not turned around by the law as a mirror to reveal sin to become Paul! It took a vision of Christ the King. The letter kills but the Spirit enlivens. We are "perfect in Christ". The Old was a ministry of death and condemnation (2Cor3), it faded with the glory of Christ. As He walked with a couple of disciples on the road to Emmaus he taught them from all the law and the prophets about himself... etc... These dogmas regarding Moses and Christians, especially Gentiles Christians, are necessary where the Spirit is also merely a dogma and when faith is merely tough believing, i.e., when the Christian walk is not based in the "seeing" of Christ which is a real assurance of the Spirit of the Son. Dogmaticians try to close gaps in dogma with scripture based logic because they are people of "the letter", even if that letter is the New Testament... they leave no space for the Living Spirit. Nevertheless, we are loved. "Beginning with Moses and all the prophets, He interpreted to them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself" (Luke:24:27), "You search the scriptures because in them you think you have life, but it is they that testify of me." (John 5:39ff). The reference to the "schoolmaster" is wrong. The "we" and the "us" in Galatians (schoolmaster to drive US to Christ) is an exclusive reference to the Nation of Israel. The preposition ("to Christ") is best translated as "until Christ" i.e., he purpose of the law was not about a personal existential guilt trip, it was a constitutional bondage, identifying or marking off a nation (Israelites/Jews if you like) "until" the Messiah... it's a date in history... long past! The "until" indicates and ending, not a continuation of that jurisdiction, especially not for Gentiles. Many theologians from the reformation era and evangelical commentators and preachers abuse this text (and their congregations) in the same way that the gentleman here abuses it and them. As I noted, Saul did not repent because the law mirrored sin and become Paul ... he says in Philippians, "as to the law [I was, or I considered myself] perfect". Sin is not adequately defined by objective moral codes; it is defined as the rejection of Christ.
I love R.C but I disagree with him here.... Christ fulfilled the whole law, as a unit, not part of it Mt 5:17-18! Christians are not under the law of Moses, but are under the law of Christ, 1Cor 9:20-21!!
@John Bennett Many thanks for the link John, it provided additional clarification for me!! Thanks again!
Christ = God
God's Law = Christ's Law
He's talking about the ten commandments. I believe.
@@nichill7474 obedience!
The law of Moses was given to him by God. And if Christ is God in the flesh, then He would uphold his own law. It says that Jesus came to fulfill the law, not abolish it. All the dietary and ceremonial sacrifices that the people under the old law had to do was fulfilled by Jesus, therefore, those practices are not needed any longer. So by the logic, the moral laws would also be fulfilled and upheld because Jesus did not come to abolish them.
with this answer I see the door opening for the 7th Day Adventists and Judaizers...
What's up with that antisemitism
What law were/are non-israelites under?
Please provide scripture.
Levitico 24:22
22 "Habra una misma Ley para vosotros, sera tanto para el forastero como para el nativo, porque Yo Soy El Senor vuestro Dios."
@abcdefg no Christianity today is a man made pagan originated religion and not based on Bible truths.
How to minimise sin? Say that we can keep the law.
The law only condemns. In Christ, there is no condemnation because we are not under law but under grace. Those who split the law up into different categories have no Biblical basis for doing so. They add to the Word of God. Christ came to fulfil the law. If that did not include the 10Cs then it is up to us to keep them. So we then have to serve God by our effort. "Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law or by believing what you heard? Are you so foolish after beginning with the Spirit are you now being perfected by the flesh?... Does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you because you observe the law or because you believe what you heard?" "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse for it is written: Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. (That includes the 10Cs) Clearly, no one is justified by the law because the righteous will live by faith. The law is not based on faith..." "Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes." "If you are led by the Spirit you are not under law." "The righteous will live by faith." "But now by dying to what once bound us we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit and not in the old way of the written code." "Through the law, I died to the law so that I might live to God." "These things may be taken figuratively for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mt Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves." "It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm then and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery." "Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law." "For in it (the gospel) the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith. As it is written the righteous will live by faith." "The Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come we are no longer under a tutor." (Oh, he forgot that last bit!) Of course, the way around that is to reinterpret the Word of God by imposing an interpretation on it that the Scripture never says let alone never clearly says.
Now what must be recognised is that there is nothing wrong with the law but it does not bring life only death which is replaced with the new ministry of the Spirit which brings life. It is Christ who brings life. All but the Sabbath are mentioned in NT teaching as good ways to live and so they are. Murder is wrong etc. But we are no longer righteous through keeping the law. We are righteous by faith. Since we live by the Spirit let us then also walk with the Spirit. If we walk by the Spirit we will not gratify the desires of the flesh. If you live in the flesh you will not enter the Kingdom of God. How on Earth (or in Heaven for that matter) can Galatians have any meaning at all if we are still under the 10 Commandments? You have to redefine what the word "law" means and in so doing you may as well tear the letter out of your Bible as it becomes meaningless. If Jesus fulfilled the law including the 10Cs then it's meaning takes on a totally different characteristic. We are free. Free to walk with God and to walk away from sin. If you are under the law you are just condemned but in Christ, there is no condemnation.
🤔🤔🤔 fulfill means to do or complete. Basically show it can be done. What Yahshua did was sacrifice himself for us so:
1. We don't need to sacrifice animals (sacrifice law)
2. Sin then die instantly after sinning
(Judgement law)
The commandments and dietary laws are still in existence. The New covenant doesn't say anything about abolishing the law but to write them in our hearts. Hebrew 8:8-12. He forgives us BUT we still are suppose to follow the commandments. Preachers (mainly christians) don't bring this verse up and instead preach around and about it.
@@sambeezy007 then what justifies you? The Law or Christ?
@@jyzon4him nothing justifies me/us. We shouldn't sin at all.
You wrote a term paper, bypassing, a simple truth, and difference, between the law of God, (10 commandments), and all other laws. From the very beginning of Jesus's ministry, he said Mt.4:4.
Why?
Because when God gave the ten commandments, he gave them to the 12 tribes of Israel, in person, with his voice, and they HEARD him. All other laws were given to Moses and prophets, in private. It makes the Sabbath, impossible to be Jewish, as, only one of the 12 tribes were Jews.
Explain Isaiah 66 when Yah says he will return to destroy those who eat unclean meats
Wow I’m surprised by the quoted Psalm - does Paul love the law? - he’s clearly no antinomian, God forbid - but he sees the law as a prison of sorts
Brothers and Sisters,
Please watch "The Coming Sunday Law" by Hope Through Prophecy
But what about the forth commandment?
- Isn't the seventh day Sabbath keeping as important as idol worship prohibition from the second commandment?
- If the ten commandments are the moral law, why then the gran majority of christians, including mister R.C. Sproul, is breaking one of the moral commandments of the law?
- Why it is not biblically correct for Catholics and Orthodox christians to worship God through idols and images and so breaking the second commandment but it is wright for the rest of christians (protestants and neoprotestants) to put the first day of the week in the place of the seventh day Sabbath for regular church official worship service?
Wasn't both commandments spoken by God Himself together with the rest of them on Mount Sinai?
- Not eating pork or the other unclean animals from Leviticus 11... aren't they the same unclean animals today as in the past, even in the times of Noah?
Wasn't those people in the past as humans as we are today?
- Leviticus 11 is not ceremonial law, but health law for the happiness of man...all living people on Earth.
Great confusion between christians regarding the teachings and interpretation of the Bible.
There's no old or new testament but the Bible.
The whole Bible for every time and every generation till the end of times.
- If someone wants to be a real Christian he or her must obey and submit to God's Holy Word as Jesus Christ did.
And Jesus affirmed He is the Lord of the Sabbath( the seventh day shabbath not the pagan first day week sabbath... )
- And Jesus Christ did not eat pork nor any other unclean animals from Leviticus 11, nor the Apostles.
One was moral law, the other one health law.
- Like it or not, believe it or not, know it or not, both are holy laws still in force today as always.
Because..." do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?
For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's."
1 Corinthians 6:19,20
- So, don't but into your body what the Holy Spirit inspired Moses in Leviticus 11 to not eat!
Or you're insulting the Holy Spirit and that is a very dangerous act.
"All Scripture ( including Leviticus 11 and the forth commandment in Exodus 20:8-11) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16,17
May all of you who read this message be very much and abundantly blessed in every way 🙏🙏🙏
It's true that the 10 commandments are a bad example. The New Testament gives us liberty in regards to days of the week so you can't just use the 10 commandments as an example.
@@dahelmang
False and wrong
@@sf3207
"One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. - Romans 14:5-6
@@dahelmang read and understand this text having in mind the entire Bible context about the Lord's day issue.
Do not take a vers of the Bible to make a doctrine. Ok?
Who he said "I am the Lord of the Sabbath" is the same "I AM" revealed to Moses and the same who spoke in Isaiah 56 and 58.
Jesus has never ever ceased to be the Lord of the Sabbath for the past 2000 years.
@@sf3207 Jesus said He was Lord of the Sabbath because He was breaking it. I understand the context. Do you?
Jesus said in Mark 10:19 we *_must_* keep the 10 Commandments to inherit eternal life, and Paul said the "law of faith" *_establishes_* the law (meaning God's laws) in Romans 3:31. You cannot live in violation of the commandments with impunity and be saved. OSAS is a false doctrine that denies the apostasia, or falling away (Matt 24:48-51)
This is a problem, where people make theological distinctions between God’s Word in order not to walk according to His instructions for His people.
All of it
Which day is the Lord's day/Sabbath day from the bible? Mark 2:27,28
Saturday
@@jonnbobo Thanks a lot for confirming that it is really Saturday that is the Lord's Day. Which bible texts or research led you to your conclusion?
@@drwn1791 Genesis 2:3, it was created as such.
@@jonnbobo Thanks a lot for sharing. I found this in the New Testament :28 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
It shows that God's Sabbath is the day before Sunday.
@@drwn1791 very true
The 10 commandments that were literally written by God on stone with His finger are still relevant today Exodus 31:18 Revelation 22:14- including the 7th day sabbath (Saturday) according to Exodus 20:8-11.
He IS an antinomian despite his claim. The easiest way to detect a modern Pharisee is their heresy related to LAW.
The goal for Christians is to follow Jesus as an example. How does the Sabbath help to follow moral laws rather than just a rememberence.
God did NOT send the Messiah to FREE people from the God of Israel.
Preachers who BASH the Commandments of God are just as bad- if not WORSE- than those on TBN.
@@---zc4qt Of course the law wasn't destroyed, but there's no good reason to have to go to church on Saturday instead of Sunday because most Christians view that Sunday was when the early church started (sort of like a trademark). They also believe Jesus rose from the dead on Sunday, whether or not you think it's true, they DO think it's true. Also, who says we have to go to Church on Saturday? The Sabbath is when you rest and recognize God, but not necessarily to go to church on. Back then, there was no reason for the Jews to go to church on Sunday unlike most Christians today. Think of it this way, If Sunday-Christians are convinced wrongly, let them be convinced and please the Lord by their faith, not for having Church on Saturday or Sunday.
Sabbath does NOT = Church Gathering
WHERE does it say that the apostles COMMANDED that people MUST worship God on Sunday?
@@---zc4qt I didn't say that!! You seem to be very ignorant towards any sort of genuine reasons why to not associate the Sabbath with Church.
Can anyone give me any scriptural evidence that the three-fold distinction exists in the Word? If so, I would change my view. Currently, I believe we are only under the New Testament commandments. The reason I believe this is because the New Testament clearly teaches this:
2 Corinthians 3:7-11
Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.
How about?:
Romans 7:12 So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
Matthew 5:17-18 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.
Romans 3:31 Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.
Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified
@@bestbest91 I've actually become Covenantal in the last few months haha
@@vesselsofmercypodcast6655 When you say "Covenantal", do you mean Messianic?
@@bestbest91 No, I have become a Covenantalist, Reformed Baptist.
@@vesselsofmercypodcast6655 ok
„All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” … means All Scripture, which even in this context means the so called Old Testament
The bottom line - by what authority do “you” determine how you interpret God’s word the way you do?
If you want to be true to Christianity you will want your flesh to serve God in the "old way" of the law of ancient Israel. But if you are true to your higher soul self as a Son of God, you will know you are being led by the "new way" of your Spirit. (Romans 7:4-5)
All sin is still unlawful.
And yet Mr Sproul don't keep His Law...
Are you implying one of the first four?
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Yes. But at the same time I can agree that only once you are convicted you have to obey. The problem I have with most of these preachers are that they spend decades teaching the word of God yet fail to be convicted. Fortunately that's not my concern, it's up to God.
I do like Mr. Sproul's teachings in general. I believe he is sincere.
@@Stefan-X24 I agree with you.
It is for the ungodly.
law keepers for rightousness wont enter heaven,,,,,,only those who trusted JESUS TO FILL IT,
Josephus was a Jewish historian who witnessed the execution of the Jews by the Roman onslaught.
I have been telling people that ” heaven and earth” is the Old Temple and that we are the new. Yet many will still chose to consider the words “heaven and earth” to be a literal Heaven and literal earth.
Hence when the book of Revelation tells us that there is no more sea, they would chose to understand as no more sea.
It does not mean that. Let’s look at what he wrote.
“However, this proportion of the measures of the tabernacle proved to be an imitation of the system of the world: for that third part thereof which was within the four pillars, to which the priests were not admitted, is, as it were, a Heaven peculiar to God…” Josephus, Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 6, Paragraph 4, Section 123).
“When Moses distinguished the tabernacle into three parts, and allowed two of them to the priests as a place accessible to the common, he denoted the land and the sea, these being of general access to all; but he set apart the third division for God, because heaven is inaccessible to men” Josephus, Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 7, Paragraph 7, Section 181).
Josephus is portraying the first century Jewish understanding of “heaven and earth” in these writings.
He is describing how the Jews looked upon their place of worship in the Mosaic Tabernacle and later in the Temple as “a heaven and earth.”
They believed that their Temple was at the very center of the earth, and saw it as the place where heaven and earth came together, and where God met man. In the quotes just made from Josephus, he calls the outer part of the tabernacle “an imitation of the system of the world” and the “sea and land, on which men live.”
By contrast, the inner Holy of Holies he terms “heaven peculiar to God.” There was a fabric veil that separated these two compartments in the Tabernacle and the Temple, which he describes as being “very ornamental, and embroidered with all sorts of flowers which the earth produces.” This last quote is found in Antiquities, Book 3, Chapter 6, Paragraph 4, Section 126.
C.H. Spurgeon (1834-1892) in a message he once delivered (Metropolitan Tabernacle Pulpit, Volume 37, Page 354), made the following statement about “heaven and earth” as used in the Scriptures: “Did you ever regret the absence of the burnt-offering, or the red heifer, of any one of the sacrifices and rites of the Jews?
Did you ever pine for the feast of tabernacle, or the dedication? No, because, though these were like the old heavens and earth to the Jewish believers, they have passed away, and now we live under the new heavens and a new earth, so far as the dispensation of divine teaching is concerned. The substance is come, and the shadow has gone: and we do not remember it.”
Jessie E. Mills, Jr., Ph.D., writes in his work entitled, Revelation Survey and Research, “Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words shall not pass away,” Matt. 24:35. Thus the heaven and earth here represented the fall of Jewish power, so also in Matt. 24:29, where the symbols of the sun, moon, and stars is used to denote the rulers of Israel. Note this fall would occur at the advent of Christ.”
Hence when the Bible speaks about there being “no more sea” it is actually saying there is no more “outer court” for the common people to come. This is because we all have been made royal priests.
This is because we are now the new Temple. We are the “new heaven and new earth”.
9. A failure to understand apocalyptic language.
We don’t interpret poetry the way we interpret factual statements. Similarly imagine putting a statue or a piece of legislation in music form.
Why?
Because poetry is the language of the heart and factual statements is the language of the mind.
Hence when you read the prophecy of the “end days” there is a need to understand there are pictures and codes involved.
When people read Peter’s account of how the heavens will be consumed by fire they think that the world will be destroyed by fire.
Then after this God will restore a new heaven and earth. Like a reset button.
That’s not true. I found this interesting note. This clearly shows us what it really is talking about.
“Continuing our study of the 2 Peter 3:10-13 passage, verse twelve reads, “Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?”
Aside from this being a great example of “prophetic language,” we must pay close attention to the Greek words that Peter uses as they are of utmost importance in understanding what it is he is saying.
“Looking” is the word “prosdokao” which means fervent, expecting and anticipating, while the word “hasting” is “speudo” meaning speeding, or eagerness.
Both of these words apply to the coming of the day of God (the Parousia or so-called Second Coming or advent of Christ) which is the Greek word “parousia” meaning presence, coming or advent. Peter uses “prosdokao” three times in this chapter in verses twelve, thirteen and fourteen.
Peter is declaring that the believers to whom he was writing were looking (expecting) and hastening the day of the Lord in their lifetime, for the end of all Jewish things (the Old Covenant) was at hand! “But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer” (1 Peter 4:7).
In 2 Peter 3:13 (part of our passage under consideration), Peter writes, “Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
Many of you who are reading this verse are more than likely thinking, O.K. explain your way out of that statement! There are two keys to understanding this verse. Peter is stating that the Christians to whom he is writing expected a new heaven and a new earth. But let us look closely at the Greek word he uses which is translated “new.”
There are two words translated “new” in the New Testament. Those words are “neos” and “kainos.” “Neos” means new in time, something that has never been before, or that which has recently come into existence/what has only just now arisen or appeared.
“Kainos” means new in quality/nature, not in time, different from what is old/distinctive as compared with other things different from the usual, better than the old, superior in value or attraction. The word Peter uses in this verse is “kainos.”
If Peter meant that God was going to physically destroy the physical heavens and earth and create a replacement, Peter would have used the word “neos!”
The new heavens and new earth Peter writes about are an echo from Isaiah sixty-five and sixty-six. In those chapters we read where God will pour out His wrath on Jerusalem (which fact happened in AD 70) and on His rebellious people before He creates (spiritually, not physically) the new heavens and new earth.
In the New Jerusalem of the new heavens and new earth, physical death will remain (Isa.65:20; 66:24) home building and agriculture will continue (Isa.65:21-22) there will be descendants (Isa.65:23; 66:22), there will be a new priestly group (Isa.65:24 which is describing the believer church - which we believing Christians are! (see 1 Peter 2:9).
10. We think there is hence nothing to look forward to.
This is usually the reaction of believers when you tell them the “end times” are behind you.
They will say then “what is there to look forward to?”
My answer is simple. The rapture is not the hope of glory. Christ is and you are his new abode. He came back in AD70 and he never left. He is in you.
John 14:18-21
I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.”
John 14:23
Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.”
Without a temple we can’t correctly observe any of the appointed times. There are Torah only for Levites, some only for the Levitical priests, some for just the land Israel. We follow and trust Zechariah 14:16, Eze.43-45 and Micah 4:1-4 that all these will be restored in the Messianic Kingdom. Torah was never for salvation and many people have a misunderstanding of what all the purposes of the sacrifices are for. Yeshua said it best in Mat.5:17,18 but the problem is the Christian religion has separated Torah into 3 parts when all these are the one and only Torah given (including The Torah of Jesus).
I was wondering that. I'm reading through Leviticus now and I'm hearing all of the laws that require a temple. I see a lot of people on here saying that the Law of Moses must be observed, but how can Gentiles do that without a temple or the appointed priests?
xTwilightWolvesx we do what we can but one day we will do all of it correctly , Jew and Gentiles together
3:25... The law never means The Promise of God, but The WORD does mean the Promise. Thus, the law and the word are not always the same, as he failed to point out.
2 Timothy 3:14-17
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the letter of the law kills
The pharisees shout, "These are the ways of the LORD!" Our stature precedes us and our proclomation proves us! Let us show you a secret thing."
Yet their heart is not of the LORD, nor be thier ways. They scurry to and fro seeking the knowledge of men teaching it as the ways of God. They confound the people with the elegance of double speak; convincing men that what is Holy is not necessary, and the power of slavation is no longer dictated of God, but of themselves. Like snake oil merchants, do they lure the hungry to starvation with the promises of abundance. Woe to those who seek the faith of the LORD by way of men. Faith comes by hearing and hearing comes from the Word of the LORD. For faith in the world is not faith at all
The Ten Commandments in the OT and Jesus commandments in the Sermon on the Mount are the Only Laws "Ever" Relevant. The rest of the laws are the "commandments of men" as Jesus called them. He corrected the Pharisees for "teaching for doctrine the commandments of men." Pay no attention to pastors and churches who teach you otherwise.
A.k.a ceramonial law
Why the Devil and his Agents hate the Sabbath command? Read Revelation 12v17 and Exodus 20v8-11
Exactly.
The pastor RC Sproul said
“We recite part of the 10 commandments”
I wonder which commandment they took out”. ….. devil hates the shabbat.
The Law was a 'demand' for righteousness which could not be met by the sinner. Those who put themselves under Law, put themselves under the curse of a broken Law. The Christian is not under Law now, he or she is under grace. Grace is the unmerited favour of God and is a ministration of righteousness to the believing sinner. 2 Corinthians ch. 5 tells us that He who knew no sin, was made sin for us that we might be made the 'righteousness of God' in Him. In Christ Jesus we are seen by God as a new creation and have the righteousness of God, not of man.
Everybody still must keep God's laws period. Christ came to become the new sacrifice which for a lack of better words replaced animal sacrifice. Other than that, the rest of the laws still stand.
The Law of Moses was for Israel not for others.
The law of Moses was the sin sacrifice of atonement , when you break the laws of the Father . This law also came from the Father , but since Moses was the intercessor ( protector ) for the people , the sin sacrifice came under the mediator , through a priesthood ( Leviticus ) . Shalom !
@@johnalbent is your comment toward me , and your reason ?
Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and your Torah is the Truth. TEHILLIYM 119:142-142 את CEPHER
Your word is true from the beginning: and every one of your righteous judgments endures forever. TEHILLIYM 119:160-160 את CEPHER
Great peace have they which love your Torah: and nothing shall offend them. TEHILLIYM 119:165 את CEPHER
My tongue shall speak of your word: for all your commandments are righteousness. TEHILLIYM 119:172 את CEPHER
Our help is in the name of Yahuah, who made heaven and earth. TEHILLIYM 124:8 את CEPHER
Search me, O El, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. TEHILLIYM 139:23-24 את CEPHER
Cause me to hear your lovingkindness in the morning; for in you do I trust: cause me to know the way wherein I should walk; for I lift up my soul unto you. TEHILLIYM 143:8-8 את CEPHER
Man is like to vanity: his days are as a shadow that passes away. TEHILLIYM 144:4-4 את CEPHER
It is time for you to act lord they consider your law void
I was pretty much following him at first until he seemed to turn into a legalist. Maybe I took this the wrong way but he seems to be very old testament laws based. Ever heard of grace? Ephesians 2:8,9
Steve Parks The Law is also grace. Without the Law the grace that we found in Jesus can also be " stolen" from us by satan who walks around like a roaring lion......so the Law is still doing a great thing in restricting criminality and punish disobedience. If we break the law we are under it and have to answer to it.
@@IamHeisAdonai "the law is also grace"????
Prove it. Find a scripture in the bible that says the law is grace. I'm only interested in what scripture says.
@@IamHeisAdonai and grace, btw, cannot be stolen from us.
Steve Parks Don't you see being protected by the Law as Grace? Grace did not start in the New Covenant....Adam and Eve already received grace and mercy from God because He only expelled them and gave them another chance to serve Him better....
This is the problem....we are on the same side and we fight each other....we should be able to talk with the assumption that we can learn something....
What abt feeding ur pet?
Ummmm what?
Psalms 119: it is time for you to act lord they regard your law as void. It was also prophesied that yeshua would magnify the law and make it holy. To those who say the law was gave because it was to show we couldn’t keep it and needed a savior.. that’s not true. God never asked for perfection. He asked for righteousness. David was a man after Gods own heart. Read psalms 119 and say the law is not for today.
Not everyone who calls me lord lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but those who do the will of my father in heaven.Many will say lord have we not prophesied in your name cast out demons in your name and done many good works in your name and I shall declare unto them depart from me you who practice lawlessness.lawlessness is sin and sin is transgression of the Torah.
And yet Galatians tells us that we are not to obey the Torah. For reliance on the Torah instead of on Christ undermines our faith.
@@dahelmang you clearly do not understand the Torah nor Galatians I highly recommend you to stop reading,commentarys, listening to Pastors,and youtube videos read from genesis to revelation.The whole point of Galatians was to clarify that we are not justified be keeping the Torah we are justified by belief in Yahusha.If you rely on the Torah to save you and not on Yahusha than you are under a curse HOWEVER the Torah is not against YAHUAH'S promises do we nullify the Torah so that grace may abound GOD FORBID. Do we get rid of the Torah so that grace may abound NOOOO! Those were Paul's words be not decieved by man.
@@draxthedestroyer2442 I don't need a pastor to tell me what Galatians says. It is quite plain that you are wrong. It is condemning people who hold your beliefs.
@@dahelmang Paul is condemning jews and gentiles who are trying to justify themselves with Torah and not with belief in Yahusha.Hebrews also discusses that we are no longer under the Levitical preisthood in the old testament you know the priesthood where you need to constantly atone for sin because Yahusha became the ultimate offering by dying on a stake for us.And as i said before brother Lawlessness is sin and sin is transgression of the Law we cannot be lawless if we claim to have belief on the messiah we cannot throw out the Torah.
@@draxthedestroyer2442 the only law that matters is Jesus' law of love.
"Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope.For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. - Galatians 5:2-6
Paul says that if a man is circumcised Jesus will be of no value to him. You cannot approach the Mosaic Law at all without being circumcised first. But there were Jewish converts telling the Gentile converts they must obey the Mosaic Law in addition to faith. These men were condemned. Do not repeat their error. If you wish to obey aspects of the Law as an act of worship no one can object to that. But if you teach a person must obey the Law to be saved you preach a false gospel.
we are justify by faith in Christ not by the works of the law.In Christ WE NATURALLY ACCOMPLISH GOD LAW R.C.Sproul is definitely strange in is teaching. PHD is not being conduct by the Spirit.
WHAT IS TO BE JUSTIFIED ? TO BE FORGIVEN OR REDEEMED OF YOUR SINS . WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR FORGIVENESS ? A SIN SACRIFICE FOR ATONEMENT , THROUGH A PRIESTHOOD . WHAT PUT YOU IN SIN ? THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW ( 1 JOHN 3:4 ) . WHAT SIN SACRIFICE ATONEMENT REDEEMS YOU FROM SIN ? EPHESIANS 2:8-9 , " FOR BY GRACE ARE WE SAVED THROUGH FAITH ; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES : IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD : NOT OF WORKS , LEST ANY MANSHOULD BOAST " . SINCE WE KNOW THAT TO BE FORGIVE REQUIRES A SIN SACRIFICE FOR THE ATONEMENT OF THE SIN ; THEN THE GRACE IS THE BLOOD OF CHRIST , THROUGH FAITH . WHAT IS FAITH ? ROMANS 10:17 , " SO THE FAITH COMETH BY HEARING , AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD " . WHAT DID JESUS SAY WHEN HE BEGAN HIS MINISTRY IN MARK 1:14-15 , REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL . REPENT IS ASKING GOD FOR FORGIVENESS OF THE SINS THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST HIM ; AND BELIEVE MEANS TO TAKE ACTIONS TO BE THE THINGS THAT HE TELS YOU TO DO ; WHICH IS KEEPING HIS COMMANDMENTS ( JOHN 14:15 ) . ARE THESE JESUS COMMANDMENTS , OR DID HE BRING YOU THE WORDS FROM ANOTHER ( DEUTERONOMY 18:15-19 , JOHN 7:16-17 , JOHN 12:44-50 ) ? THE WORKS IN EPHESIANS 2:9 IS A SIN SACRIFICE FOR THE ATONEMENT OF THE SIN THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST THE LAWS OF GOD . THIS SIN SACRIFICE WAS OF WORKS , OR THE LAW OF ANIMAL SACRIFICE , NOT OF FAITH . THE SIN SACRIFICES GO THROUGH THE TWO MEDIATORS ( MOSES AND JESUS ) ; ONE IS BY WORKS ( BLOOD OF THE ANIMALS AND OBLATIONS ) , AND THE OTHER IS BY FAITH ( BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST BY OBEDIENCE ) . THE WORKS IN EPHESIANS 2:10 IS THE LAWS OF THE FATHERS , THE SAME LAWS THAT YOU DID NOT OBEY ; WHICH CAUSED YOU TO BE ATONED THROUGH THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST . SHALOM !
My take away is that the 9 commands dealing with morality have been magnified into the 2 greatest commands (Mat 22:36-40) and that these Christians should be grateful for. Apostle Paul called most of the old covenant a prison sentence which is exactly what it was - Galatians 3:23. Its only purpose was to convict peoples' hearts of sin and to point toward Christ - Gal 3:23-25. Luke 16:16 confirms this. Salvation through repentance and faith in Christ (Mark 1:15; Romans 10:9,13) and the 2 greatest commands replaces all the law of Moses!!!. This new covenant is the Law of Liberty - James 2:12.
That is not true. The law is still for today
All Ten Commandments are moral, we know this because the Ten Commandments is covered by the blood of the sacrifice in Leviticus 16, which is what Jesus fulfilled for eternal atonement. You are confusing the book of law which is not covered by the blood.
@@codyalexander3290 Really so u sacrifice animals according to the law?
@@christophercoupe5006 did Daniel sacrifice animals when he was in exile?
@@jonnbobo Keeping the sabbath (4th command) is not moral! If it was God would have made the church keep it as well. The church has been keeping the 1st day of the week for 2000 yrs because that is God's will. If you read Acts 2 you will learn the Holy Spirit was given to the desciples and believers on Pentecost. What day is pentecost? It always is the 1st day of the week. Sunday worship wasn't started by the catholic cult it was started by God Himself!!!!!
NOWHERE in all of the scripture do we read we areas free from a specific law. It simply teaches us we are free from the law. The ENTIRE law.
Sadly this man doesn’t understand the new covenant.
It’s honestly kind of silly to make the analogy of a Christian man worshiping idols. Christians have a spirit of God dwelling in them. They are new creations. They have new hearts in new desires. The last thing God is worried about is a Christian man worshiping a false god.
This guy wants us to buy into the lie that we are free from the law, but not the 10 commandments.
How would he explain Paul description of the law:
[2 Corinthians 3:7] But if the ministry of DEATH, written and engraved on stones.
I found it interesting that he referred to the law as a schoolmaster. Obviously, he would pick this up from Galatians 3:23. But apparently, he’s not willing to read the very next 2 verses that finish that thought.
[Galatians 3:24-25] Therefore the Law has become our guardian to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. 25 BUT NOW that faith has come, we are NO LONGER under a guardian.
So which is it?
There is not ONE human that is qualified to push the law.
James warned us about this. He said if someone keeps the ENTIRE LAW but stumbles at just ONE POINT he is guilty of it ALL - James 2:10.
So why would anyone push a law that is a ministry of death, and makes every person under it guilty of it all?
Have we not all looked with lust? Jesus calls that adultery.
Have we not all been guilty of coveting?
Have we not all violated the Sabbath?
Have we not all told a lie?
You see this guy wants to pick and choose just how firm God is on the standard of law. The standard of the law is perfection. You get 100% or death. You pass or fail. There is no middle ground.
The law is indeed perfect and holy. The problem is not the law, but rather you under it. If Christians were still under the 10 Commandments we would all get death. No one can do it. And who respects the law more, the guy who is pushing this as you can do it, Or the guy who recognizes its total perfection and our need to be rescued from it?
Jesus is the only answer.
We do not obey Jesus from an attempt to justify ourselves. We know that is not possible. We obey Jesus out of gratitude. We love because He first loved us. So we want to know what Jesus wants us to do. His law is love, and we want to have something more specific. So we try to figure out which of the Judaic laws are specific to Israel and which are part of God's moral law.
@@dahelmang I think this is where Christians often times have a disconnect. You talk about obeying Jesus, but then we have to ask do you mean by walking in the spirit or obeying the Mosaic law? Jesus never called you to obey the moral law. Nor did he calls to pick and choose which ones we thought or specific to Israel or anything else.
We can't say Jesus is the end of the law for all who believe, and then turn around and say "yes but you need to be obedient to the law". And on the surface the wrong way of thinking would be to suggest I'm saying we should murder, steal, lie, etc. But that is not what I'm saying. I don't do those things because it's not who I am. But I don't avoid them because I'm trying to convince Jesus that that's the way of being obedient.
We have a human law that says I cannot go into someone's house and rob them. But that law or to suddenly go away I would not suddenly start stealing from my neighbors. That's because it was never the law that stopped me from doing it. I never did it because that's not my identity. I do not need the human law to be my measure of being obedient to goodness. Human law has one purpose. That purpose is not to stop you from evil acts. The purpose is to define what the punishment is if you break it. In the same way the moral law serves up the standard of punishment to anyone who's under it and breaks that command. The wages of sin is death. So your standard should not be a set of Israel laws, ceremonial law, or Mosaic laws. You do not obey Jesus by placing affections towards a system that he freed you from. When Jesus talks about obeying him he's referring to two things.
1-BELIEVE that he is indeed the Son of God
2-LOVE others as he has loved you.
I know this might sound like semantics but it's not. The Scriptures are abundantly clear that we should not be chasing after the law as a means of righteousness or daily living. Let's just chase after Jesus, and strangely enough, he will not lead us to a life of ungodliness.
@@jesuswithoutreligion yeah that does sound like semantics because I said we don't obey the law to try to justify ourselves. I don't really understand what you are saying though.
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I was referring to your comment about our obligation to figure out which laws we are supposed to be obedient to.
You wrote: So we try to figure out which of the Judaic laws are specific to Israel and which are part of God's moral law.
Which tells me in one way or the other you are chasing after rules and regulations as a means of showing gratitude. Which I assume is why you wrote “We obey Jesus out of gratitude”.
All I’m saying is there’s no amount of obedience to any form of a law that is going to show gratitude to God.
Jesus came to free you from the law. Gal 3:13
The law arouses our passions for sin. Romans 5:1
The long actually causes more sin. It caused Paul to commit every kind of coveting. Romans 7:7-8
God said when speaking about our new covenant he made the first one obsolete. Hebrews 8:13
Paul called the law of Moses (the moral law) a ministry of condemnation and death. 2 Corinthians 3:7
The law is weak and useless for a perfect nothing. Hebrews 7:18-19
Jesus is the end of the law for all who believe - Romans 10:4
Now some might say that Jesus did not come to abolish the law, and I’m not making that argument. The law is still there but no believer is under it. God tells us that the law is becoming obsolete and ready to vanish away- Hebrews 8:13
So you see this is not semantics. You should not be looking to the law for daily living or as a means of showing gratitude to God.
God sent his son to rescue us from this ministry of condemnation in death. How can we be showing gratitude by encouraging people to look to the very thing that God freed us from?
The way we show God gratitude is by showing him that we believe that Jesus saved us eternally as he fully and completely took away our sins. That’s the believing part. The other way of showing gratitude is by loving others just as he liked us. That’s the loving part.
Where we go wrong is when we think the way of accomplishing belief in love is by chasing after an old covenant law that made no one righteous but only points its finger in our face and condemning us. I realize you’re not suggesting we do this for salvation. But it’s not honoring Jesus when this is our method of showing gratitude.
Please understand I totally get why so many people struggle to follow this logic. The church has been infiltrated by people who do not understand the separation of the new covenant and the old one. They see this is not for salvation, but they turn right around and directly or indirectly have other believers putting their eyes right back on the Law, when our eyes should be on Jesus alone.
@@jesuswithoutreligion of course we show gratitude through obedience. As I John says we love because He first loved us. And Jesus says
"Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. - John 14:23-24
Did you catch that? We keep PART, of the ten commandments, when Christ said to keep them.
Mt. 4:4, 19:17, 22:36-40.
Sunday Christianity says they are seeking justification by law, while Jesus himself says they are how to love God, and LO, and behold, not just salvation, but blessed sainthood for those who keep them......at the very end of the Bible.
Rev. 14:12, 22:14.
Sunday Christianity.
Can't even get the gospel right.
God does not change. Everyone who thinks they no longer need to follow the dietary and moral law are lost in a fake gospel. God forgive them for they know not what they do.
That's not accurate, we are of the priesthood, we do have discretion on following the book of law. However, we do not have discretion on what is on the ten commandments. The Ten Commandments is the written word of god, that is God's moral character, that is what we cover with blood in the ark of the testimony. The book of law is not covered with blood, it's kept on the side of the Ark of the testimony. So we should use the book of law as guidance, but it is our discretion, but God's moral character is not up to our discretion.
A Protestant is jus a Renegade Catholic !!! Shema Israel !!! Yehoshua HaMashiach is one Shema !
Every dot every iota curse yourself break the law bless yerself follow it
613 laws,,,,we were delivered from,,,,,,,JESUS SAID, I wont condemn you but Moses will,,,,,,,,,,the law kills,,,,mosiac too,,,,,,its all law,,,,,,we of the spirit, and life,,,beware false teachers,,,,,,,,,JESUS WILL SAY HE NEVER KNEW THEM,,,,,,,cuz its all of JESUS,,,,and none are holy as the Lord,
Amen ❤!
Considering Jesus was, is and will return as a Jew, I think He’d disagree with your gentile classification and theology of the Law and it’s application. “Get away from me you workers of lawlessness, I never knew you”” Matt 7:23
Well that's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
@@dahelmang
Isaiah 66 states that he will return and destroy eaters of unclean meats with fire
@@hosea4660 that passage is specifically talking about Israel. They were not obeying the Law. But in the New Testament we see this:
"I am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. - Romans 14:14
So you maybe shouldn't eat pigs and chickens but don't push your extra traditions on other believers.
@@dahelmang
That prophecy hasn’t been fulfilled yet, and as for Romans 14 The entire context of the chapter is about fasting. The word Eat is used nine times in the KJV. There was a debate what day was the best day to fast. It has nothing to do with unclean meat. It also speaks on the topic of of eating meat and only eating vegetables. Some believers said that we could eat clean meat that are sanctified by the word of Yah, while others said that we should only eat vegetables like People did before the flood. The biblical definition of sin is transgression of the law(1 John 3:4) if it was a sin then, it’s still a sin today.
Furthermore chicken is a clean animal, have you even read Leviticus?
@@hosea4660 Romans 14 is not talking about fasting. The word fasting does not not appear at all. It is talking about the same thing I Corinthians 8 is talking about: meat that has been sacrificed to idols.
Leviticus never mentions chickens. Have you ever been around chickens? They are just as unclean as pigs.
The Law of Moses was a covenant with the Jews, but I am a Gentile.
"Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.” - Acts 15:10-11
What a terrible and short answer that is only leading to confusion and more arguments. RC needs to provide more context here. Especially since there are a lot of laws like being circumcised that seem to be universally agreed upon that that doesn’t matter.
It's really straightforward, anything that's in the book of law, is kept outside of the Ark of the covenant. Any of those things are discretionary because we are of the priesthood. The ten commandments, however, are in the ark of the testimony and are covered by the blood of the sacrifice. Therefore, all Ten Commandments are moral issues and are not negotiable. That is the basic moral standard that we live by, and Jesus made that moral standard far more difficult, because now the law is written in our heart.
Read Galatians.
Perhaps you should. God's moral character, his Expectations never change.
Yahshua says you must keep the Ten commandments and the most important are the first 3. The Bible is a Law book so understand what words mean in law dictionaries.
Where did He say this? He said the most important is to Love God and the second is to love your neighbor.
@@dahelmang It is the ten commandments. Sit down and write a list of the ways to love God, and neighbor. It is the ten commandments.
@@eltonron1558 Jesus did not emphasize the 10 commandments. He expanded on them.
@@dahelmang He identified the ten commandments, as how to love God, and fellow humanity. Please explain the expansion.
P.S. He also said to keep the commandments.
Matthew 19:17
The law of Moses is revealing the mysteries of the kingdom never was a mandate it was always one own free will therefore if you think the law of Moses is done away with you’re never going to be fulfilled
IF YOU NEED HELL
TO SELL JESUS,
YOU REALLYDON'T KNOW
YOUR PRODUCT VERY WELL.
I prefer to "sell" it by talking of Forgiveness Grace Mercy Redemption and Salvation.
Math 5:17-18
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Has heaven and earth passed yet? Hmm
Matthew 9:1-7
1 Jesus stepped into a boat, crossed over and came to his own town. 2 Some men brought to him a paralyzed man, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the man, “Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven.”
3 At this, some of the teachers of the law said to themselves, “This fellow is blaspheming!”
4 Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said, “Why do you entertain evil thoughts in your hearts?5 Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up and walk’? 6 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, take your mat and go home.” 7 Then the man got up and went home. 8 When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God,who had given such authority to man.
When the scribes challenged Jesus about his ability to forgive sins by saying only God can forgive sins, they were actually saying they had the monopoly to do so. This is because forgiveness of sins was only available to the Jews from the temple. Since they were scribes, they knew the Law and how the whole process of bringing a lamb or bull was to be carried out.
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As such, to the teachers of the Law, forgiveness is only attainable in the temple. That is what the Jews meant by “heaven”. The temple was “heaven” on earth where God dwelt.
When Jesus said “the Son of Man has power to forgive sins, ON EARTH”, he meant that God does not live in that temple anymore and He was in Jesus. Jesus said “destroy this temple and I will build it in 3 days”.
When Jesus said “he had power to forgive sins on earth”, he meant he has power to forgive sins in Israel. That is what he meant by “on earth”. When the temple was destroyed in AD 70, Israel also ceased to be a nation. As such “heaven and earth passed away”.
When that happened, righteousness through the law was replaced by righteousness by the law in Jesus Christ.
Matthew 5: 18
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
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Jesus said these words thereafter:
Matthew 24: 34
Truly I say to you, this [x] generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.
The things he said regarding what will happen in the generation then was:
15 “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains. 17 [h]Whoever is on the housetop must not go down to get the things out that are in his house. 18 [i]Whoever is in the field must not turn back to get his cloak. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 But pray that your flight will not be in the winter, or on a Sabbath. 21 For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. 22 Unless those days had been cut short, no [j]life would have been saved; but for the sake of the [k]elect those days will be cut short.
The abomination of the desolation came in the form a man by the name of Nero, who offered a pig in the temple and persecuted the Jews. Josephus writes about Christians escaping and fleeing to the mountains.
It was the end of the Law and the practice thereof.
Thus,
Ephesians 2:14-15
14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the [a]barrier of the dividing wall, 15 [b]by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might [c]make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace.
Dear friends, that is how Jesus became the end of the Law. Now we live in a new heaven and new earth. The heaven is us, the new temple of God. The earth is the Kingdom of God on this earth, while we await his glorious return to transform us and bring us back to his Father’s house.
indo Can Christians excuse themselves from obeying the Law of Moses? Jesus plainly said, “Until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law” (Matthew 5:18). Surely that would mean all 613 commandments in the Pentateuch must be followed until some cataclysmic events take place.
If “heaven and earth” haven't passed away, we have a backlog of Jubilee years to celebrate, “cities of refuge” to resurrect, and bleeding lambs to burn on an altar. Forget Sunday. We got to go back to the Sabbath rest on Saturday. Throw out your clothes that mix linen and cotton and kill your rebellious children. The Law of Moses has some serious instructions.
So why don't Christians obey every letter of the Law if Jesus said it all applies “until heaven and earth pass away”?
Before all you Theonomists who want to enforce Mosaic Law today start saying “I told you so” to Dispensationalists who dismiss the Law's applicability (is that even a word?), let’s make sure we hear what Jesus meant. The historical background is going to blow your mind. It will require you to put down your apocalyptic imaginations of meteors hitting earth and start seeing the world Jesus talked about.
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Where Heaven and Earth Was for First-Century Jews
Jews did not always mean “the physical universe” when they spoke of heaven and earth together. In Jewish literature, the Temple was a portal connecting heaven and earth. They called it the “navel of the earth” and the “gateway to heaven” (Jub 8:19; 1 Enoch 26:1). Just like the Mesopotamian Tower in Genesis 11, the Temple connected God’s realm to where humans lived.
To reflect this belief, the Jerusalem Temple had been built to look like a microcosm of the universe. We typically overlook how literally true the Temple hymn preserved in Psalm 78:69 is: "He built his sanctuary like the high heavens, like the earth, which he has founded for ever." The actual holy place and most holy place inside the Temple building were constructed like earth and heaven. The courts outside represented the sea. I am not making this stuff up.
According to Josephus, two parts of the tabernacle were "approachable and open to all“ but one was not. He explains that in so doing Moses "signifies the earth and the sea, since these two are accessible to all; but the third portion he reserved for God alone because heaven is inaccessible to men" (Ant. 3:181, cf. 3:123). The veil between’ the accessible and inaccessible parts of the Temple was designed to represent the entire material world during Jesus’ day. Josephus and Philo agree that the veil was composed of four materials representing the four elements-earth, water, air, and fire (War 5:212-213; Ant. 3:138-144; Quaestiones in Exodum 2:85, cf. Mos 2:88). Heaven was beyond this material world. It was behind the curtain.
Outside the Temple’s microcosm of “heaven and earth,” the courts looked like the sea. Numbers Rabbah 13:19 records, "The court surrounds the temple just as the sea surrounds the world." In Talmudic tradition, Rabbis described how the inner walls of the Temple looked like waves of the sea (b. Sukk. 51b, b.B.Bat. 4a). From heaven and earth inside the temple, you looked out at the sea surrounding the world. Why? Ancients believed the earth had one giant land mass surrounded by sea. The temple reflected that cosmology. The accessible section of the Temple and the surrounding courts embodied both the land mass and sea believed to comprise the earth. The Most Holy Place was heaven where God's presence resided.
Jesus’ Prophecy of the Temple’s Destruction
If we listen to Jesus in First-Century Israel, his prediction of “heaven and earth” passing away sounds like the destruction of Jerusalem and her Temple. The contemporary songs, writers, and architecture all make the connection between Jerusalem’s Temple and “heaven and earth.” Isaiah used the same language of “heaven and earth” to depict Jerusalem and her citizens in Isaiah 65:17-18.
“For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth and the former things will not be remembered or come to mind. But be glad and rejoice forever in what I create; For behold, I create Jerusalem for rejoicing and her people for gladness.”
Isaiah is predicting the eventual reconstruction of Jerusalem after its destruction at the hands of invaders. He uses Hebrew parallelism to equate the creation of “new heavens and a new earth” with the restoration of Jerusalem. So Jesus isn't the first prophet to describe Jerusalem and her temple with grand language describing its theological significance. Jerusalem was the place where people encountered the presence of God on earth. The Temple is where heaven met earth.
Interpreting Jesus’ language of “heaven and earth passing away” in Matthew 5:18 as the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple fits with the rest of Jesus’ prophetic message. Like Jeremiah smashing a pot outside the city to predict Jerusalem’s fall to Babylonian invaders (Jeremiah 19), Jesus symbolically acted out God’s judgment on the Jerusalem Temple and verbally condemned it (Mark 11). Remember all those tables he flipped over as he yelled, “You have turned God’s house of prayer into a den of thieves!” In Luke 21:20-24 Jesus gave a graphic picture of how Jerusalem will be surrounded by armies and the Temple destroyed.
Jesus knew that Jerusalem and her Temple were about to be destroyed, and he gave it great significance in his teaching. The entire Torah would be set aside once the Temple crumbled. What would replace it? Jesus’ words according to Matthew 7:24. The entire Sermon on the Mount with its blessings, curses, and instructions given from a mountain (sound like Moses' law given on Mount Sinai!?!) are designed to be the new giving of God’s instructions. Jesus is redefining Torah in the same teaching where he says, “Until heaven and earth pass away not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law.” The Torah will remain in force as long as the Temple stands, but Jesus gave a new Torah for when it fell.
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Modern Assumptions Mess Up the Bible
If you listen to Jesus with modern astronomy in mind, you will be responsible to obey the Mosaic Law. You're still waiting for the physical space-time universe to collapse so you can stop your ritual purifications and celebration of Succoth. But “heaven and earth” for Jesus wasn't a planet in a galaxy. He was obsessed with where heaven met earth in Jerusalem not the physical universe.
When we mix our assumptions with Jesus’ message, we mess everything up. We create confusion and contradictions of thought in the Bible. We have to conclude that the Mosaic Law reigns until the meteors incinerate our world. Or we just have to ignore Matthew 5:18 along with all the other sayings that make no sense outside their original context.
So hear what Jesus said in First-Century Israel. And relax. You don't have to switch your Sabbath back to Saturday or kill your rebellious kids. You can keep eating bacon (Hallelujah!). “Heaven and earth” passed away when the Romans sacked Jerusalem in 70AD and everything changed. No need to wait for the meteoric destruction of planet earth to stop sacrificing animals and avoiding shellfish in your diet.
Excerpt from my next book redefining what Jesus really meant in many misunderstood statements where the original context has been missed or ignored. Tentative title is Listening to Jesus in First-Century Israel: so we don't westernize his message and follow the wrong directions
Jesus talked about hell a lot. If we do the same we are following in our Master's footsteps.