Play Outside Using This simple Minor Chord Method

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • Why playing outside is not complicated.
    Boiling the idea of playing outside down to adding one minor chord.
    And why Coltrane, Brecker and Potter sound amazing when they play outside.
    They do it the simple way.
    In this tutorial
    00:00 COLTRANE, BRECKER AND POTTER ALL DO IT.
    01:09 The simple minor chord
    01:51 First alteration - backdoor dominant
    03:42 Second alteration - tritone substituted dominant
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Komentáře • 607

  • @sorenballegaardmusic
    @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety +4

    🎷WHICH PLAYER HAS THE BEST OUTSIDE PLAYING?
    ✅czcams.com/video/PHkae8CZxM4/video.html
    ✅www.patreon.com/posts/39140131

    • @pelonete5000
      @pelonete5000 Před rokem +1

      Bunky Green, Greg Osby. The masters of playing "outside"

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Před rokem +2

      Nobody plays outside like Claude B. RazzlePod

    • @pelonete5000
      @pelonete5000 Před rokem +2

      @@ChromaticHarp Well , that guy should be known only in his house because I do not find him anywhere in CZcams. Do you have any link to check him out?

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Před rokem +3

      McCoy

    • @Arborwaychet
      @Arborwaychet Před rokem +1

      Thanks for your great work

  • @persistence_of_vision
    @persistence_of_vision Před rokem +634

    This is so important. My mother always used to tell me to go play outside, but she never told me how.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +6

      Hi Man!
      True True - one of the aspects of playing music is add your creativity to everything.
      These amazing musicians found the way - how we can be creative is taking their music and add this to our own playing.
      When you look you will find something!
      TIP: You are welcome to check out the 1000+ pages on the Patreon channel:
      www.patreon.com/sorenballegaardsaxophonelessons

    • @08waltew
      @08waltew Před rokem +7

      Hahaha nice

    • @qddk9545
      @qddk9545 Před rokem +9

      But she did say: "Close the door when you are out" 🙂

    • @SUPERSAMPLES1
      @SUPERSAMPLES1 Před rokem +1

      Watch out for dogman, thou!!!

    • @a.nonnamuss21
      @a.nonnamuss21 Před rokem +1

      Put on a sweater and your winter coat! It's COLD outside!

  • @olanrewajuadagba1291
    @olanrewajuadagba1291 Před rokem +1

    This video is like a dictionary of knowledge. You were straight to the point too!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much for your positive comment. You inspire me. And thank you for commenting on the build up of the video. Then I can bring the information better.

  • @TheDavidmachin
    @TheDavidmachin Před rokem +4

    very nice video thanks. For me many familiar concepts, but here put in a very nice way to give you something that you can immediately go away and use. Less information, more focus on doing. Fantastic work. Thank you

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you. Well if you do not do nothing will be done. I'll go practice right away.
      Have a great practice yourself ☺️

  • @Bubdiddly
    @Bubdiddly Před 11 měsíci +3

    Wow. Youre a phenomenal teacher, ive never understood these concepts and i think it finally just clicked

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for the appreciation. Really inspiring. I really hope you get everything out that you need. You are welcome to ask questions if you have any. all the best and have a great practice

  • @hack-ta-guitare
    @hack-ta-guitare Před rokem +4

    Wow, excellent work here ! It’s the first video that I watch on your channel. Impressive editing skills, can’t imagine the hours / days to achieve that. It deserve success.

  • @Ikaros4-10
    @Ikaros4-10 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Clear, short, simple. Invaluable. Thank you, Soren !

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you so much, actually what I aim for. Great feedback too. Thanks

  • @krolrys123
    @krolrys123 Před 2 lety +3

    OMG is that really that simple? You are the best Soren

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you so much! Yes it is this simple. getting it fully into your playing is what takes the effort and the hours of practice :)
      How are you practicing this?

  • @personalwatching9312
    @personalwatching9312 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Holy heck ive never felt so stared at.

  • @leroybrim2955
    @leroybrim2955 Před 9 měsíci +3

    You have reawakened my creative juices, opened the doors to the universe of sounds of exploration. Music imitates life in a big way and Life imitates music in a small way. Awesome stuff!!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you so muh - so positive - inspiring!
      You inspire me to do more!

  • @eliasricano7170
    @eliasricano7170 Před rokem +1

    Useful, straight to the point information. Thanks man

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you, the best way, get going. it's like practicing, if you don't do it you do not get better. Have a great one

  • @Len_J_
    @Len_J_ Před rokem +2

    You CRUSHED IT! great video, I tried it and 💥

  • @_left_eye
    @_left_eye Před rokem +1

    When you can make sophisticated things look so simple, well you deserve some gratitude!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much.
      I am so happy you say this. i really do my best to make it clear and understandable.
      All education should be plain and simple - because there is no matter that cannot be explained like this!

    • @_left_eye
      @_left_eye Před rokem +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic you shiny soul.. I know dozen of music teachers who carefully teach as slow as they can so they guarantee themselves some long term students

  • @JeffJacobsonMusic
    @JeffJacobsonMusic Před rokem +26

    Pure gold, Søren; I never knew this. It's like they're all related in a diminished kind of way - a minor 3rd apart: Dm7 - Fm7 - Abm7... So Bm7 must work too!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +5

      Thank You So Much Jeff!
      This is amazing.
      Yes this is a part of the diminished dominants and their minor chords.
      Bm7 - E7 is great too - goves this very new sound.
      Not many uses this sound!

    • @JeffJacobsonMusic
      @JeffJacobsonMusic Před rokem +1

      ​@@sorenballegaardmusic Ah, that all makes sense. Awesome :)

    • @Len_J_
      @Len_J_ Před rokem +2

      Best comment and reply on YT 💥

    • @JeffJacobsonMusic
      @JeffJacobsonMusic Před rokem

      @@Len_J_ Ah, thanks :)

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      Everybody should go play outside - I tell my kids constantly - they just sit and listen to dad making videos on how to play outside! LOL

  • @juangtr._
    @juangtr._ Před rokem +3

    Great explanation! opened up more ways to play over a iiVI. thanks!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you, yes the II-V-I keeps being the most played progression in jazz.
      And when practicing it just opens up more ways to go in all directions.
      Thank you for commenting!

  • @mrjazzer9904
    @mrjazzer9904 Před rokem +2

    Thanks so much for the simplicity of this very valuable tool!! 🙏🎶😁

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      You are very welcome. It does not have to be complicated. But it needs a certain attention to get around and learn. Can be very heavy material

  • @obus4186
    @obus4186 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for laying this out clearly and not cryptically or partially

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you. I think understanding is very important for the implementation.
      Have fun practicing

  • @thomassawicki2065
    @thomassawicki2065 Před rokem +5

    A mazing ! ! You just made me sound 50% hipper !
    This works so good.
    I was using a pedal G bass note against the Fm7 substitution .
    Sounded sooo hip.
    It is much easier than to think of an altered G7 scale, it works like a Charm
    Thank you 100 times ! !

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      I am so glad to help, means a lot.
      Yes it is so much easier. And you are thinking the function. Not only a mode.
      It is an amazing tool. For you too keep

  • @bobblues1158
    @bobblues1158 Před rokem +1

    Excellent Søren! Keep it simple is a good mantra!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Simple all the way. Always work on your basics. And simple is just so much easier. All steps should be simple, if not the steps are too big....
      Thank you so much for pitching in, love it.
      Have a great practice:)

  • @AnthonyShaw-ty9pi
    @AnthonyShaw-ty9pi Před měsícem +2

    👍🎩👍
    Simply, the Barry Harris concept. The family of dominants!!😄

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před měsícem +1

      I enjoyed lots of Barry Harris workshops and learned so much from him.
      Amazing energy and amazing teacher. So grateful.

  • @image30p
    @image30p Před rokem +2

    Very nice! I love the tone on that horn. Awesome!

  • @steelplayer811
    @steelplayer811 Před 2 lety +1

    Beautiful. Thank you!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      Yeah this video I am really happy with too!
      the simplicity in this super advanced matrerial!
      have a great practice!

  • @pallhe
    @pallhe Před rokem +1

    Really well explained. Cool sounds!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you, yes get them going in your playing and play those amazing sounds.
      I love this sound

  • @thomasrudolfhansel
    @thomasrudolfhansel Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the great video, Søren! That's exactly what I'm looking for right now to make my too-harmonic solos as a bassist more interesting. Greetings from Germany to Denmark! :-)

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +2

      Thank you so much Thomas.
      yeah - these harmonic ways counts for all instruments.
      What barry Harris once said at a workshop I attended - the more knowledge you are able to expres on your instrument the bette player you are!
      have a great practice,
      Maybe we play together one day!

  • @superdupes987
    @superdupes987 Před rokem +2

    Hi Soren, I've ventured out of my usual guitar channels and happy I did! This sounds great, looking forward to playing around with it. Thanks for the content

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +2

      Thank you for getting out there.
      One big inspiration for me is guitar players.
      That is so different and so amazing what you guys can do with the fretboard and the different build of the instrument.
      Try the minor chords - they are fun :)

  • @mrcatfishjohnson
    @mrcatfishjohnson Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent video! Lots to work on from this one. (On any instrument)

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      Hi Ed, thank you.
      Yes getting to this point in some different keys demands a certain amount of hours practice, but you can do it.
      Let me know - what is your biggest struggle when it comes to practice? Practicing this?
      All the bes - Søren

  • @jhazeyhazey
    @jhazeyhazey Před rokem +1

    Thank you so helpful!!

  • @michaeldean9338
    @michaeldean9338 Před rokem

    Soren...you're the man! Thank you, friend.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much for the positive comment. Inspires me to keep going

  • @rickmorales2113
    @rickmorales2113 Před rokem +7

    I have always struggled with bop, now this channel comes along and makes things clear. It's going to make a positive difference. Thank you!!

    • @davidjordan3744
      @davidjordan3744 Před rokem +2

      This is all baked into the repertoire.ladybird stable mates etc .

    • @rickmorales2113
      @rickmorales2113 Před rokem +1

      @@davidjordan3744 Thanks!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you, i love to help.
      Thank you so much for compliments.
      Follow subscribe and if you want to go all in go to Patreon and download all lesson transcripts and 1000+pages of licks and exercises.
      www.patreon.com/sorenballegaardsaxophonelessons

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +2

      True that. It is all there.
      Great tunes

  • @beneficjenci
    @beneficjenci Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thanks Man - love the simple down to the bones approach! Tasty bits!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you. Bite sized chunks are always easier to work with. That's the way I practice and learn myself

  • @tomgross1953
    @tomgross1953 Před rokem +1

    Really good stuff, and really well explained

  • @BRSQ
    @BRSQ Před rokem +2

    These are great ideas! These short little passages will work anywhere. But longer "outside" playing works best with a bass being the only chordal instrument so there aren't conflicting notes.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Totally true.
      But you can also just play over the chords of the guitar/piano. Hahhaha.
      Hopefully they brought the good ears. Joke
      Mostly when you know the musicians you play with they also know your sounds :)
      But true, long outside lines demands the space

  • @zahiircruz9178
    @zahiircruz9178 Před rokem +1

    Excellent explanation.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      This easy method can really help you playing this sound much faster.
      I love that funny minor chord short cut

  • @haikel527
    @haikel527 Před rokem +1

    Great Tuto. thx

  • @davekana8388
    @davekana8388 Před rokem +1

    Great video!

  • @anthonysilva5312
    @anthonysilva5312 Před rokem +23

    A simple hack is:
    When playing a ii V I, play the same minor phrase up a minor 3rd (or even a tritone) then resolve to a chord tone on the I chord.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +4

      Yes in the same concept. Diatonic dominant, Backdoor dominant, tritone dominant and the last dominant going to the parallel minor or maj6 chord.
      Have a Great practice

  • @michaeleaster1815
    @michaeleaster1815 Před rokem +1

    very clear explanation (at least for someone who as intermediate theory knowledge) ... thank you!

  • @davidsummerville351
    @davidsummerville351 Před rokem +1

    Good info so I subscribed. Thanks

  • @fernandof.2743
    @fernandof.2743 Před 9 měsíci

    Fantastic lesson !! Thanks !

  • @calaquintero4682
    @calaquintero4682 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you

  • @yxcv789
    @yxcv789 Před rokem +1

    Very cool! THX!

  • @eddawson3154
    @eddawson3154 Před rokem +1

    Thank you mate

  • @Martian128
    @Martian128 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this - i hadn't heard of the "back door" substitution before (will check it out)
    The tritone sub, of course. And that's not a long complicated explanation. Simply that they share the same tritone (the 3rd and 7th of one are the 7th and 3rd of the other; and coincidentally their roots are also a tritone apart).
    You spent some time suggesting to take the V out of the ii V I and just use the ii. Interesting! I try to get my students to think in terms of "local" key signatures instead sequences of chords. Very helpful in a tune like All The Things You Are for example ...
    Thanks!

  • @geneh.smalley-px4kr
    @geneh.smalley-px4kr Před rokem

    All these years of using the same sounds on the guitar..now to find the simple solution that opens up everything jazz...from a sax player.. Better late than never...thnx...

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci +1

      You are so inspiring. This is a really nice comment. It means so much to me when I make a difference. Thank you so much for commenting. I love guitar players and playing with guitar players. There is so much power in guitar. All the rock music....have a super nice practice

  • @bill18286
    @bill18286 Před rokem +2

    I always learned this as playing an Ab melodic minor on that G7alt.

    • @abilialibi
      @abilialibi Před rokem

      Yeah this way you have an F natural instead of F#, which seems more like a clash to my ears.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Totally true, a great way to think this.

  • @HenriqueMessias
    @HenriqueMessias Před rokem +1

    Very good!!

  • @musicas4812
    @musicas4812 Před rokem +1

    Muchas gracias!

  • @gustavoramirez-onna65
    @gustavoramirez-onna65 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Thank man for shearing amazing ❤❤❤❤ 🎹💯🎵🙏good Healt continues working hard

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks a billion. Means a lot to me!
      I will keep sharing - keep tuned in!
      All the best!

  • @williamwalsh6282
    @williamwalsh6282 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I heard this before… great explanation

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      It is a common thing to do, and it works amazingly.
      Love that sound!

  • @brucegoode1263
    @brucegoode1263 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your videos, thanks 👍💖👌

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Bruce, thank you so much. This means a lot to me.
      Keep the love going :)
      Any of the three players which is your favorite?
      maybe all?

    • @brucegoode1263
      @brucegoode1263 Před 2 lety

      @@sorenballegaardmusic Worship them all! 🙏🏼 But Trane, for me, has that deeply spiritual quality, which penetrates my soul 💘

  • @PepperWilliamsMusicBlend
    @PepperWilliamsMusicBlend Před rokem +28

    Out of all three players, John Coltrane stands out! The G.O.A.T.

    • @imagine07018
      @imagine07018 Před rokem +2

      Thank you for that.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +7

      Both Brecker and Potter are of course post Coltrane. Both learned from the master.

    • @victoza9232
      @victoza9232 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic ...and surpassed him.

    • @Oi-mj6dv
      @Oi-mj6dv Před 2 měsíci +1

      Brecket was a beast himself man, dont disrespect the guys

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Not a single player played the same. Not sure Brecker or Chris Potter would say they surpassed Coltrane. They all keep and kept developing through their lives and always aimed, aimes for the highest standard. If you say that it is a matter of taste then everyone have their own taste and that is alright. But if Breaker and Potter surpassed Coltrane. Think about all the stuff Coltrane played as the first ever. I will def not conclude in this except say that they are all three of the top saxophonists ever.

  • @sheddybhulji8196
    @sheddybhulji8196 Před rokem +1

    Great video thanks

  • @w.jordanrobson2962
    @w.jordanrobson2962 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I love Tucker Antell's outside playing!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      Do you have a link with some of his best outside playing - wI do not know him - love to hear it!
      Thank you so much!

  • @bintang_sakti
    @bintang_sakti Před 3 měsíci +1

    oh wow , that's easy to understand

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 3 měsíci

      thank you so much - that the purpose of teaching.
      Thank you so much for commenting!

  • @brockbah2048
    @brockbah2048 Před 2 lety +12

    Good info but has limited impact without hearing chords under what you're playing

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety +4

      Thank you so much!
      Indeed - I am working on a way to easily add the chords to the examples I play.
      It is a work in progress for connecting the keyboard to an interface etc.
      It is a nice motivation for me to fix this when I
      hear from you that you miss this in the videos.
      :)

  • @johncale9912
    @johncale9912 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for my next 30 days of practice, never ‘‘twas quite sure how that worked, jc

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Every video of mine I have the same thing. I release just about 4 videos a week....ever week 120 days of practice. Nice perspective lol

  • @CarlosNaranjoMUSICCHANNEL

    One of my favs is half step/chromatic progression in 2-5-1 which is (in C): D-7/D#-7/E-7. Pretty simple and sounds great!

    • @ti08287
      @ti08287 Před rokem +2

      love that one too.... because it's goin up up up

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Great sound. Would you then see the D#m7 as an upper structure of G#m7 the tritone II (G#m7-C#7) going to Em7 the 3rd of Cmaj7?
      That is what I would do :)
      Love to hear.
      Maybe a video for Powerful Upper structure chord progressions

    • @robertolopez5186
      @robertolopez5186 Před 11 měsíci +2

      G#m7 - C#7 = is the 2 - 5 for F#Maj7.... so the minor phrases and scale you are using over G#minor 7 as an example in this video belongs to F#Maj7... with that in mind, we can use F#Maj7 scale or relative minor = D#minor 7 ... some People prefer minor colors others like more Maj7 sounds... and the choices go on.. altered, whole tone, diminished, etc

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@robertolopez5186 you got it. Yes , sticking to the major scale modes in the beginning and evolve to the melodic and harmonic minor, then pentatonic and diminished scales

  • @tommysaxman
    @tommysaxman Před rokem +1

    Great video with ideas I can use today. Tak!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much, please ask questions if any.
      :)

    • @tommysaxman
      @tommysaxman Před rokem +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic I’m working on going outside the changes and back in order to create some tension and release in solos while also keeping the melodic and harmonic flow moving forward. Just scratching the surface so far. I’ll be checking out more of your videos. Thanks again.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      @@tommysaxman that will get you there. And you are very welcome

  • @togotraining6621
    @togotraining6621 Před rokem +1

    Wow, this is cool

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      This is a really cool way of thinking these chords!
      Thank you for taking the time to comment!

  • @davidbaise5137
    @davidbaise5137 Před rokem +1

    The Tin Pan Alley tunesmiths of the early 20th used this all the time (eg “Whispering” ), Ragtime also. Sounds so cool.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      This sound is really amazing. And when you know it it's there and really useable

  • @latinkeys1
    @latinkeys1 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 9 měsíci

      Thank you so much for your support. Really means so much to me.
      This makes it possible for me to make these videos!

  • @Tetasha
    @Tetasha Před rokem +1

    This is giving me huge Jens Larsen vibes.
    Great vid!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      He is one of my best friend's and one of my favorite musicians. We talk weekly about the material and the how to's.
      Learned so much from him.
      Pls ask questions if you have any:)

  • @trombonemunroe
    @trombonemunroe Před měsícem +1

    You can use any minor subdominant for that: the iiø, the iv6, the bVI7, and the bVII7 will all work. Likewise, the Neapolitan chord VII∆7.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před měsícem

      All in the family of chords borrowed from the Minor IV indeed.
      One thing! You write IV6 - in C major this would be Fmaj6 or Dm7 - how do you see this belonging to the IVm scale?
      Just curious to if you see something I dont?

  • @inflatedear7131
    @inflatedear7131 Před rokem +1

    Very informative.👍🎷🎶

  • @schipmusic
    @schipmusic Před rokem +5

    Man, you are the Jens Larsen of Saxophone!

    • @Xenozenomusic
      @Xenozenomusic Před rokem +1

      Hahahahha

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +2

      I showed Jens this comment, and he said - wow that is maybe not a good thing LOL
      Jens is one of my best frinds - we go way back.
      So yes im very inspired by Jens!
      Thank you - I see it as a compliment!

  • @mariorichter
    @mariorichter Před rokem +1

    Very good school. Bravo

  • @sofiaeisen3758
    @sofiaeisen3758 Před 8 měsíci +1

    thanks a lot!

  • @juanxooo
    @juanxooo Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video!! Me as a guitar player was kind of weird reading in treble clef, but listening one tone below, since the sax tunning goes like this.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 4 měsíci

      Thank you so much Juan. I can understand - on patreon I have all examples written out in all clefs for all instruments.
      + a bunch more exercises and licks in all 12 keys.
      I upload +60 pages of lesson material every week.
      This might help you :)
      www.patreon.com/sorenballegaardsaxophonelessons

  • @jzgtr100
    @jzgtr100 Před rokem +2

    I loved this lesson. I’m a guitar player. I like playing outside on jazz blues. Say we’re playing F blues. On the IV chord(Bb7), I play F- pentatonic, slip into F#- pentatonic and back into F-. It sounds a little too formulated. Going to give your ideas some tries. The second idea was more dissonant. I like that! Thanks for the great lesson.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +3

      On the Bb7 back to F7 you could use the alteration Dbm pentatonic!
      Super cool that I can help.
      Have a great practice!

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca Před rokem +1

    I loved the edition of this video, snd incidental sounds and images, including the classic original "Twilight zone"... excellent 👌

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much for noticing. I love this video, but this is also a lot of work. But I will start making more videos in this editing direction!
      :)

    • @DihelsonMendonca
      @DihelsonMendonca Před rokem +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic It's because you're like me: Perfectionist. I did videos before, for a news channel I had. And I was very very perfectionist. This gave me much trouble and dissatisfaction, because I worked so hard, and few people watched the videos, and no recognition. Then, I got burned out, and after hundreds of videos, I can't do a single one more. I got disgusted about editing videos, and I was and am partially blind. 👍

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      @@DihelsonMendonca maybe we can do something together?
      It's fun.
      Greets Søren

  • @BellEndBrass
    @BellEndBrass Před rokem +1

    Excellent

  • @tonyr.4778
    @tonyr.4778 Před rokem +1

    Wow. I'm impressed how complicated and confusing you made this simple thing to

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      hahahha - yeah you can look at stuff in many ways. I am approaching this in a rather theoretical way.
      You can also just say - play the minor a half step above the dominant.
      But some would ask - how does that connect to the wholed western tonal system?
      different approaches for everything!
      Have fun and have a great practice!

  • @user-rp4bz8sq2e
    @user-rp4bz8sq2e Před rokem +4

    Great video, thank you! As a pianist I would have to say Kenny Kirkland as No1. His balance between in and out was just perfect in my opinion❤

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for commenting. Yes indeed some of the Piano players have these amazing outside lines. I guess it has also something to do with the overview of the instrument. Love getting inspired by guitar and piano.

    • @personalwatching9312
      @personalwatching9312 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yep. My hero

  • @pabloochoa5455
    @pabloochoa5455 Před 2 lety +1

    Máster!!! Now I have a new thing to practice...

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      I am really glad I could inspire!
      How are you practicing this?
      All the best to you and have a good practice :)

  • @tomashguitar638
    @tomashguitar638 Před rokem +2

    Very informative. I’ve always thought that Ab min works over G7(5+) by G5+ superlocrian being the 7th mode of Ab melodic minor. Or to put it another way, seeing G5+ as a Ab min maj7 over G bass. I never thought of approaching II-V-I in this fashion. You blew open a big door for me. Thanks a lot!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      You can use the Abm maj on Galtered too, but then you get an altered dominant.
      This is a slightly other sound and is I think also a great way to play other harmonics. Thinking a more inside therotical chord function approach and not so much thinking a mode which to play.
      I am really glad that this opened up ways to see more music.
      Thank you so much for sharing. Means a lot. Love when these things happen.

  • @tradingwithwill7214
    @tradingwithwill7214 Před rokem +1

    bonus if you noticed each shift is a minor 3rd up...Dm, Fm, Abm and even Bm(Cbm) a whole lesson on why you can substitute in minor 3rds (hint think diminished chord)

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      True that, then we are into interchangeable diminished progressions. Nice one too. I'll do that in another video

  • @jackwilloughby239
    @jackwilloughby239 Před 2 lety +2

    Another great video Mate! To answer the Question of the Day: Lenny Tristano, Line-Up/East Thirty Second St. His use of Substitute Pentatonics & Chromaticism are about the most Muscular & Lucid inside/out playing I've come across. Teach me to play piano. Please!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      They are amazing - and there are so many great players - would love to be able to give it all attention, but time is too short :)
      Love your remarks. Thank you so much!

  • @toddmcdaniels1567
    @toddmcdaniels1567 Před 2 měsíci +1

    For me I see dominant chord and the II chord going up by a minor 3rd in the first case and two minor thirds in the second case. I could see this as a key change that reverts back to the original key for the one chord, since the dominant defines the diatonic key, since there is only one dominant per key in the major scale. However, since the dominant is being skipped, it is the II chord going up either one or two minor thirds. This happens straight forwardly in a half diminished scale, encompassing both substitutions, which are now no longer substitutions at, but just a couple minor chords from the half diminished scale. So, one could envision this as half diminished leading to the diatonic I chord.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 měsíci +1

      But is this not a very difficult detour to think instead of just thinking backdoor dominant, learn this term and get used to it. Train it like training any other dominant.
      The backdoor dominant and the 2nd degree in front of it is a part of the functions in the key. Not going off key into weird harmonic non existing key changes and functions. I think you make it very much more difficult than what it actually is.
      I do not want to sound condescending, sorry for the direct approach.

    • @toddmcdaniels1567
      @toddmcdaniels1567 Před 2 měsíci

      I’m all about scales. I create motion in a solo through key changes or scale changes. I don’t think in chords. Even arpeggios are just itty bitty scales to me. But I found this video very enlightening. Minor 3rd key changes are something I work on a lot, so this all funnels into that for me.

  • @musiceducationvideo4111
    @musiceducationvideo4111 Před rokem +1

    Fantastic

  • @morganhernandez297
    @morganhernandez297 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Every horn player mentioned followers the stephen of Coltrane. The Greatest. I wonder what Jazz would sound like without him, Biird, Miles, Monk, and those two generations of másters. Humanity has an eternal debt with afroamerican music. The progresión from classical Music through so many creative, inventive, music, from classical, popular, techno, rock and its many variants, jazz, hip hop makes me think that art and leading art MUSIC is the biggest legacy human being has left on Earth and Beyond.
    I dont include mainstream "music" happening nowadays in the words I've said. No way.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I wish we had more time a day, maybe just prioritize different, listening to all the music out there. There is so much amazing music out there which inspires. You notice them all. Thank you so much for commenting. Love it

    • @morganhernandez297
      @morganhernandez297 Před 10 měsíci

      @@sorenballegaardmusic thank u for such a good post . Tack sa mycket

    • @morganhernandez297
      @morganhernandez297 Před 10 měsíci

      Follow the steps. Ooops !The Google "corrector " let me down.

  • @wrtoomes600
    @wrtoomes600 Před rokem +1

    Backdoor dominate exploration would be good. Thank you.

  • @keithridenhour7033
    @keithridenhour7033 Před rokem +1

    greatvideoK

  • @bennewman5154
    @bennewman5154 Před rokem +2

    I always just thought of this as minor triads build one half step above either the third or the fifth of the major scale you are going towards (f minor to e and Ab minor to G in the case of C major). Using the upper extensions of the minor chords doesn't work as well in my experience so keep it simple with the triad notes (maybe some passing notes like the 2 or 4) but really nail that strong semitone resolution to the three or five. Nice explanation of the theory as to why this works!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you so much for the positive comment. I strongly believe that the more ways you see these connections the better you will be able to navigate them. What you say is so true, simplicity is great and we find simplicity in all forms as we advance in knowledge. Have a great practice.

  • @saschah4999
    @saschah4999 Před rokem +1

    tbh you could easily explain what these concepts are in full depth within 6 minutes, if people are looking to play outside jazz they probably already know what a tritone sub is

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Yes easily, to people knowing what it is. Play the 2nd degree minor to the tritone substituted dominant and resolve to the Tonic of the original key. There you go. Like 15 secs of reading tops:)
      But not all understand I believe.
      When I make these videos I learn so much, because I take a lot stuff out of context and study it. So I explain a lot too :)
      Have a great practice

  • @uryic000
    @uryic000 Před rokem +1

    Excellent video. Your video came up in my suggested videos list. I will be watching more and will subscribe. Oh yes I would like to know the full explanation of the back door dominant. cheers

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you so much.
      I will get on making a video on Backdoor dominants!
      Interesting way to play dominants using the subdominant!

  • @percyvolnar8010
    @percyvolnar8010 Před rokem +1

    Most profound players who blow my mind are : Steve Coleman & Greg Osby - Steve Coleman is the Alan Holdsworth of Sax players. This is the first video of yours i saw and I subbed right away!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      Thank you so much for your input.
      I am going to check Steven and greg out.
      Do you have any favorite albums to check?
      Thank you for the sub!
      have a great Practice

    • @percyvolnar8010
      @percyvolnar8010 Před rokem

      @@sorenballegaardmusic With Greg Osby the album 'Banned in New York" is a great starting point. With Steve Coleman, there is too much to listen to. A good starting place with Coleman is here watch?v=Yy5YwyLysV4

  • @wemustbecomemachines2012

    thumbs up for great content and your facial expression

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you, my face says it all - love saxophone, the player's and the music

  • @davidperezgonzalez1839
    @davidperezgonzalez1839 Před rokem +1

    Another guitarist here giving thanks 🙏🙏🙏

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Love that man. Played with Jens Larsen for most of my life, learned so much from him, love how guitar is comping and soloing at the same time. Small nifty rhythms. Piano is often more all over the place. Love guitar

  • @LydianLunch
    @LydianLunch Před 2 lety +26

    Hi. This is the first of your lessons I’ve watched. Very good. Thank you. I’m a guitarist. Barry Greene had a similar lesson - the “back door ii V” as he called it. Mind blowing stuff that quadruples what you can play over a iiV. I subscribed and I’ll be watching. Cheers.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      Thank you so much!
      Yes these guys are amazing - knowing these tricks are so usefull - then it is a matter of getting into the practice room and get cracking!
      have a great practice!
      All the best

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Před rokem +1

      Backdoor 2 5 is subdominant minor cadence…

    • @Aerlioz
      @Aerlioz Před rokem +1

      Totally came here as a guitarrist into what hidden secrets the sax players have up their sleeve. This is mind blowing

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      true - minor key interchange!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 10 měsíci

      Welcome - love you are here!

  • @nenadd
    @nenadd Před rokem +1

    Nice work thank you. What is the explanation behind back door dominant please?

  • @LTLBIGMAN2
    @LTLBIGMAN2 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The notation at 3:16 is the wrong lick, but the idea still comes across. It's much easier to think about the minor-ii from the "relative major" key (I think what @OpenStudioJazz calls "cush chords") than working out, on the spot, the notes from the lydian dominant of the tritone sub. (Not sure if I have this terminology right, but essentially doing a transposition of ie C->Eb, then using the ii from that key.) You can borrow other chord progressions from this relative key before resolving to the tonic, ie IV-iii-ii-I -> Ab-Gm-Fm-C, lots of fun to be had there.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 11 měsíci

      Yes I noticed the notation. Wrong file in the edit....sorry man. But you get it. En to C sounds amazing - backdoor dominant Fm7 Bb7, Dø7, AbM7 upper structures of the same function. That's a nice playground, true. Amazing sounds. Just do thirds or triads up or down the scale and you are golden.

  • @darz3829
    @darz3829 Před rokem +1

    Terrific. Now everyone can sound just like everyone else. And isn't that what jazz is all about? (sarc)

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Hahahaha amazing.
      Well then there is the way we use it and how you use it and how you brain works and how your inspiration is and who you listened to. Hahahaha
      Just give me 1/10 of the vocabulary og these three masters.
      Love it and love the sarc.

    • @darz3829
      @darz3829 Před rokem +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic There are quite few young modern players out there. Listen to them and see if you can tell any difference. It's kind of like discussing the difference between McDonalds and Wendys by counting the sesame seeds on the buns. At the end of the day, they're still hamburgers.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      @@darz3829 there are a lot of them. But true, old players made more difference, but only the ones we hear because they recorded and only a few had the opportunity.
      Now everybody can listen to everything because of internet. It is a mad World

  • @kangs3751
    @kangs3751 Před rokem +1

    반갑습니다 🌻 색소폰 강의를 듣고 연주 에 큰 도움됩니다. 스케일 코드 👍함께합니다

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you so much, nice to meet you too. I am glad this helps you to take good steps in the right direction

  • @j.r.goldman3279
    @j.r.goldman3279 Před rokem +1

    Thanks I a guitarist . but works

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you Goldman!
      In the lesson manual on Patreon all examples + a bunck more licks and exercises are transposed into all 12 keys if you need it!
      sorenballegaard.dk/play-outside-using-this-simple-minor-chord-method/
      sorenballegaard.dk/saxophonetopics/tier-5/
      Only if you are in need :)
      Thank you so much for your comment!
      Have a great practice!

  • @bensen3325
    @bensen3325 Před 2 lety +1

    Dear Soren,you must have 100.000 subscribers.I dont understand this you tube at all...regards and love from Istanbul.🎷✌🎷❤🎷

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      Yes I wish there were 100K subscribers.
      Glad you are one of them.
      Maybe one day :)
      Hopefully I can keep up the level and the videos.
      What is it you do not understand about this video?
      What material would you like to hear more about?

    • @bensen3325
      @bensen3325 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sorenballegaardmusic Wrong translation because i use google translate, i mean i dont understand You tube ranging system.You have to be 100K.Also,all your videos are very understandable.Thank you sir.❤

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 2 lety

      @@bensen3325 aha thank you Ben Sen. I am really happy that you get inspired by the videos.
      And still you are always welcome to ask questions about stuff 🙂.
      Thank you so much for the friendly comment.

  • @marike1100
    @marike1100 Před rokem +8

    The Fm7 and Abm7 to C work well because they contain many of the same notes as G7 altered (V7). Beautiful tension notes.

    • @ChromaticHarp
      @ChromaticHarp Před rokem +1

      Not Abm7, Abm6 is a better choice, you don’t want the natural 7 of Ab (Gb) in the scale.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem +1

      True that :) The Fm7 is a part of the backdoor dominant in C and the Abm7 could be the II to the Db7 the tritone substituted dominant

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      If you want the II-V sound Abm7 - Db7 to C I would argue that you could use the Abm7

    • @jazzdorefree194
      @jazzdorefree194 Před rokem +1

      @@ChromaticHarp The 7th is the 3rd of the preceding V chord.
      Parker played Gb G Bb D F etc etc for a C7.
      Gb/F# is the 3rd of D7.
      D7 Gm etc.

    • @jazzdorefree194
      @jazzdorefree194 Před rokem

      @@ChromaticHarp BERKLEE school of scales BS.
      D F# A C = D7 , the V of G, G maj , G minor , G7.
      Its BACH Mr "Graduate".
      Referred to as the "Backcycle"".
      Unlike most people I back up my claims with proof.
      Measure 62. Parker's overused favorite motif for C7 in many of his tunes/solos.
      Albeit if transposed to concert key from Alto, that's Gb to G ( D# to E ).
      00:50
      czcams.com/video/PAe-M6RcVJ4/video.html
      You want to play something really sharp for Gm. OK, let's go for the back-cycle substitute chord....let's see, back cycle for Gm, that makes it D7....so let me see, I can play the D+, D7, D7b9 for Gm, OK, you can start on one of the D chordal notes: D, F# or A. So anyone of those notes you can start on to play whatever variation of D and the corresponding notes for the various chords of D. i.e "the V of the ii chord which then is the V of the 7th chord ( ii V Gm C7)
      But then you know all this shit because you say you went to BERKLEE.
      I'd keep that a secret.
      That's like saying now I'm Chinese because I went to China. Has no value, just lip service.

  • @pekkanattinen907
    @pekkanattinen907 Před rokem +1

    Kiitos!

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Thank you So much Pekka!
      I really appreciate your tribute.
      I do not want to push, but on Patreon you get all my lesson transcriptions for €5,- per month.
      that is 1000+ pages of learning material.
      This weeks video on blues is here:
      www.patreon.com/posts/70375715
      All the best and thank you again!

  • @TheDesertRat31
    @TheDesertRat31 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Cool video. Im glad i found your channel. Regarding the tritone sub, I would say it doesn't need a long drawn out theoretical explanation. The guide tones of the origin dominant and the tritone sub are the exact same. Since the 3 and the 7 are the 2 most important tones in a chord, the other notes which differ between them are basically just color tones. Once you het used to hearing tritone subs, you soon realize they are everywhere in jazz.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you so much BobC and totally true.
      i does not have to be complicated. But there are so many layers of how people understand stuff...I think I have explained it in 4-5 videos now - all different :) Music keeps being exiciting

  • @isoEH
    @isoEH Před rokem +1

    Since we're dabbling on the diminished's minor third intervals, also consider the Bm7.. really close to the Bm7flat5.

    • @sorenballegaardmusic
      @sorenballegaardmusic  Před rokem

      Yes - there are so much great content and still just 12 notes.
      I love the amzingness of this !

  • @jdguitar1040
    @jdguitar1040 Před rokem +1

    Sweet :)