I'll call your bluff and raise you a comfort I will start with the flash 55 Followed by the Lanshan3 Pay the extra get the seams sealed. naturehike -3 Snowbird.. Sawyer Minnie. Zeepair sleeping pad I got one of these airpads and founded to be as comfortable as my Big Agnes UL. .I'll go with the Comtai 750ml Deeper lip on the pot lid doesn't slide off .. the BRS Stove It's hard to beat however there are a lot of Chinese white label stoves that are Identical. I would stay with the Cnoc vector 2L Great product for the price.. Don't think I would change the light either, That's a great light. Personally I have a strong dislike for frog togs And carry a lightweight poncho If I'm concerned about whether has more than one use.. Quality and comfort are often subjective Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. www.rei.com/product/216571/rei-co-op-flash-55-pack-mens www.amazon.com/MIER-Ultralight-3-Season-Backpacking-1-Person/dp/B08PYZ3LG7/ref=asc_df_B08PYZ3LG7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647205140334&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14221874757966470712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033130&hvtargid=pla-1404897847338&psc=1&mcid=14c6b2348f1730e0a60fcaf8179dbe1e www.amazon.com/Zeepair-Sleeping-Pad-Camping-Backpacking/dp/B09Y34K6SG/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=1XNWLIH306H2T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yrYM7NYL3RpLAvXRSF-fqfiCJFLJMUodwhFfVGjqIsVf0jD4aCuAL8RqcIv57qa2bQBsrzXAIhG06MFwRWzkjA.A0aYcopSVu6rds8t_QWs4TfBmNnu9w-IqwmRS5zDKoE&dib_tag=se&keywords=zeepair+sleeping+pad&qid=1709584291&sprefix=zeepair+%2Caps%2C281&sr=8-8 www.naturehike.com/products/naturehike-outdoor-ultra-light-snowbird-mummy-duck-down-sleeping-bag www.amazon.com/COMTAI-Titanium-Foldable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B0BYMPHL9Y/ref=sxin_26_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f%3Aamzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&crid=1EA5HZNJI7Y1P&cv_ct_cx=750ml+titanium+pot&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JIt90ocNlFtjod-_2jZQ26G-WPjeopqWBe5PlduTUN_OzlpvwvcUUodH3vy9n7B_3EbihVpzkaacpflxyBxRxg.Qkfj3FtDYV30oIfJp2cZLEL0CVRQIzChYli_Y07Fd70&dib_tag=se&keywords=750ml+titanium+pot&pd_rd_i=B0BYMPHL9Y&pd_rd_r=e499f3b0-13aa-442f-b3d9-39ee1554e366&pd_rd_w=TRMty&pd_rd_wg=0LjMi&pf_rd_p=3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&pf_rd_r=TXQ390VXKT64N19N56C7&qid=1709584883&sprefix=750ml+t%2Caps%2C226&sr=1-2-364cf978-ce2a-480a-9bb0-bdb96faa0f61-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1 www.amazon.com/DESERT-FOX-Ultralight-Titanium-Automatic/dp/B07R3SWC4B/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=3PARHFA03GL8N&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Oc97NksrlRRBPRMKa48YaLpxM2A8mSidScJk1e9L4DnGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.uNhpwC8xwK9mhvSlClRC8o4eEsWRREruGwm4CRuyPOU&dib_tag=se&keywords=Desert+Walker+stove&qid=1709586435&sprefix=desert+walker+stove%2Caps%2C331&sr=8-2 www.amazon.com/Anyoo-Waterproof-Military-Lightweight-Reusable/dp/B0C5CHFCGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3S9T1HMA7BFHQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.exJmOwNxaYuebbY8ycZ1Rx-sZZcG3L46v1GZXdOfQq2lhczh4GT5JtV_n24sQ10O-g5tzqzQ_ZXUN0XW-9C6WI6oCihpAqd621iiY6erk0YKLrOONI1YfRamAIix2_Rn3dnWUX2s0kW1ZeebrzridcA2ZOQ1EuPVSBl2817zDKOxp6B49Bhgtud02LAFDA5GnkqHe5iWEoH9RqCkxdP_b-Oe94ZgjJYE2qhSKkB7eBUaElNC6lk-txuL6OLrgpLTmpzc2-y5MpdNpplZQwvXiUxjXLMyigIN4EIogO9TGOE.hrJgPgQnsfweUbnHl5N6dq68DZUZ8ILOcXz4ohLGSac&dib_tag=se&keywords=Snow%2Bcamo%2Bhiking%2Bponcho%2Bwaterproof%2Blightweight&qid=1709587365&sprefix=snow%2Bcamo%2Bhiking%2Bponcho%2Bwaterproof%2Blightweight%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-8&th=1&psc=1
I'll call your bluff and raise you a comfort I will start with the flash 55 Followed by the Lanshan3 Pay the extra get the seams sealed. naturehike -3 Snowbird.. Sawyer Minnie. Zeepair sleeping pad I got one of these airpads and founded to be as comfortable as my Big Agnes UL. .I'll go with the Comtai 750ml Deeper lip on the pot lid doesn't slide off .. the BRS Stove It's hard to beat however there are a lot of Chinese white label stoves that are Identical. I would stay with the Cnoc vector 2L Great product for the price.. Don't think I would change the light either, That's a great light. Personally I have a strong dislike for frog togs And carry a lightweight poncho If I'm concerned about Bad weather. It has more than one use.. Quality and comfort are often subjective Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. ((Yes I understand I'm helping the commies With some of my options Garage Grown Gear Are American companies)) www.rei.com/product/216571/rei-co-op-flash-55-pack-mens www.amazon.com/MIER-Ultralight-3-Season-Backpacking-1-Person/dp/B08PYZ3LG7/ref=asc_df_B08PYZ3LG7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647205140334&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14221874757966470712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033130&hvtargid=pla-1404897847338&psc=1&mcid=14c6b2348f1730e0a60fcaf8179dbe1e www.amazon.com/Zeepair-Sleeping-Pad-Camping-Backpacking/dp/B09Y34K6SG/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=1XNWLIH306H2T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yrYM7NYL3RpLAvXRSF-fqfiCJFLJMUodwhFfVGjqIsVf0jD4aCuAL8RqcIv57qa2bQBsrzXAIhG06MFwRWzkjA.A0aYcopSVu6rds8t_QWs4TfBmNnu9w-IqwmRS5zDKoE&dib_tag=se&keywords=zeepair+sleeping+pad&qid=1709584291&sprefix=zeepair+%2Caps%2C281&sr=8-8 www.naturehike.com/products/naturehike-outdoor-ultra-light-snowbird-mummy-duck-down-sleeping-bag www.amazon.com/COMTAI-Titanium-Foldable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B0BYMPHL9Y/ref=sxin_26_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f%3Aamzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&crid=1EA5HZNJI7Y1P&cv_ct_cx=750ml+titanium+pot&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JIt90ocNlFtjod-_2jZQ26G-WPjeopqWBe5PlduTUN_OzlpvwvcUUodH3vy9n7B_3EbihVpzkaacpflxyBxRxg.Qkfj3FtDYV30oIfJp2cZLEL0CVRQIzChYli_Y07Fd70&dib_tag=se&keywords=750ml+titanium+pot&pd_rd_i=B0BYMPHL9Y&pd_rd_r=e499f3b0-13aa-442f-b3d9-39ee1554e366&pd_rd_w=TRMty&pd_rd_wg=0LjMi&pf_rd_p=3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&pf_rd_r=TXQ390VXKT64N19N56C7&qid=1709584883&sprefix=750ml+t%2Caps%2C226&sr=1-2-364cf978-ce2a-480a-9bb0-bdb96faa0f61-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1 www.amazon.com/DESERT-FOX-Ultralight-Titanium-Automatic/dp/B07R3SWC4B/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?crid=3PARHFA03GL8N&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Oc97NksrlRRBPRMKa48YaLpxM2A8mSidScJk1e9L4DnGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.uNhpwC8xwK9mhvSlClRC8o4eEsWRREruGwm4CRuyPOU&dib_tag=se&keywords=Desert+Walker+stove&qid=1709586435&sprefix=desert+walker+stove%2Caps%2C331&sr=8-2 www.amazon.com/Anyoo-Waterproof-Military-Lightweight-Reusable/dp/B0C5CHFCGM/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=3S9T1HMA7BFHQ&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.exJmOwNxaYuebbY8ycZ1Rx-sZZcG3L46v1GZXdOfQq2lhczh4GT5JtV_n24sQ10O-g5tzqzQ_ZXUN0XW-9C6WI6oCihpAqd621iiY6erk0YKLrOONI1YfRamAIix2_Rn3dnWUX2s0kW1ZeebrzridcA2ZOQ1EuPVSBl2817zDKOxp6B49Bhgtud02LAFDA5GnkqHe5iWEoH9RqCkxdP_b-Oe94ZgjJYE2qhSKkB7eBUaElNC6lk-txuL6OLrgpLTmpzc2-y5MpdNpplZQwvXiUxjXLMyigIN4EIogO9TGOE.hrJgPgQnsfweUbnHl5N6dq68DZUZ8ILOcXz4ohLGSac&dib_tag=se&keywords=Snow%2Bcamo%2Bhiking%2Bponcho%2Bwaterproof%2Blightweight&qid=1709587365&sprefix=snow%2Bcamo%2Bhiking%2Bponcho%2Bwaterproof%2Blightweight%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-8&th=1&psc=1
Great video as always Steven! I’ll take you up on the challenge! -Backpack - Saccus 48L by Bonfus - 15.5 oz. - $279 -Tent- Lanshan 1 - 2.2 lbs - $130 -Sleeping pad- PARIA XL Insulated - 26 oz. -$100 -Quilt- Featherstone Moondance 23 oz. - $220 -Filter- Katadyn b Free - 2 oz. - $45 -Stove- BRS - 28 grams -$16 -Pot- Toaks 550 - 2.6 oz (72 grams) $30 -NU25 - 28g - $36 (same) -Frog toggs jacket - 5.8 oz - $20 (same) Total Price = $876 Total Weight= 112.1 Ounces or 7.006 lbs. I also used GGG because they are awesome but made some personal changes obviously!
Good list but don’t get discouraged by the prices. Find what you want and wait for sales like on Black Friday. Got all my gear over a period of time by buying when they’re on sale. Got some items on marketplace as well. Sign up for all the email newsletters from the companies you like and they’ll notify you when there’s a sale. There’s good deals out there but you have to be patient and shop smart, you’ll save hundreds on high quality gear.
Agreed. Honestly, whenever I'm helping someone build out a gear kit at least 1-2 items are on discount. I tried to do my best using retail prices though.
For the quilt one could go for cumulus quilt 350 or cumulus taiga 360. Similar price, fill, and temps. Not much better, just another option, although I know for a fact that as a polish brand cumulus down is top notch.
I pointed this out too, but he clearly doesnt care. In fact, the prices he listed for the tent and backpack arent even accurate because ggg doesnt honor discoumts for those brands. This whole thing is just an arrogant way for him to tell his audience that he knows everything.
I mentioned it in my gear list too, though I double it's a malicious exclusion. Often there's an assumption that people have certain things; he also didn't include footwear but I'm assuming he didn't think folks would hike barefoot. It's a list for the purpose of making a list :)
He also ignored others things, like the weight of the gastank for his stove. And infaced the weight of the tent he listed is not correct. Or at least the weight in gramm. but I still was able to beat his price by 140$ and still having 600g less.. So his list is not very competitiv.
I think the only change I'd throw in is swapping the tent for a freestanding or semi-freestanding option. Often times when folks are looking for the "budget" option, they're new to something. As much as I like my Lanshan 2 that weighs nothing, setting up trekking pole tents is a pain, even with practice, particularly at the end of a long walk. The frustration of finicky tents for people wanting to go the budget route to try things out could be a determining factor in their enjoyment. My Taga 2 (similar to the Tarptent Double Rainbow) is my preferred tent as it's easier to set up and isn't heavy. If I had an REI Quarterdome i'd probably end up using that. Macon's shoestring list has been around forever and I think that's always been at a $500 price point. Also, if you've got access to a fully stocked Decathlon there is great value to be had here. The MT100 50L is a bit heavier than the UL stuff sack style bags, but it's half the price, has more adjustability, and is relatively bomb proof. They also have some cool ultra light gear, like their new tents, but they haven't made it to the states. It kinda sucks Deacthlon is imploding in the United States, there was so much promise.
@@brentperron6914 Yeah Decathlon in the US has had almost nothing in stock compared to Canada and Mexico for the past few years. A few months ago they announced they're reducing operations, which is funny when I consider them barely operational in the first place.
I've gotten several things from decathlon including my 55L pack, backpacking chair, trekking poles, and my rain shell. Ordered all from their website and very happy with price and quality.
OK my list (4rd try without links): Backpack $100 NatureHike 40+5L Tarptent $120 Jurek Tarp 2 UL Tyvek $7 Sleeping pad 2,8R $52 Zulu Moonlight confort Sleeping bag $225 Warmpeace Viking 600 Stove EMO alcohol $38 Pot $28 titanium pot 600ml Headlamp $13 Decathlon onnigtht 100 3xAAA and rest is are yours items: VersaFlow Filter Cnoc Vecto 2L Frogg Toggs Suit
You are right about one thing. The quilts are fricking impossible to get a cheap and good one. There might be some good US ones out there. But I am not paying $80 for cross Atlantic shipping.
Ok so im really excited for this video as i just put together my first ultralight pack ive always been a traditional backpacker but recently i decided to make the change i was curious to see what items that was choosen that i also picked for my setup ,,,,this is my loadout ,,,, Mariposa 60L Xmid-1 solid Nemo tensor wide regular Nemo fillow pillow HG burrow 30° Hummingbird hammock w/ straps Outdoorresearch helium rainjacket Decathlon forclaz mt100 Cnoc 2L bladder Sawyer squeeze Hydropack 1L Pocket rocket 2 Toaks 750 Toaks spoon Petzl bindi headlamp NB10000 gen 2 Tushy towel Culoclean bidet Then my diddy bag and med bag Coming in at base weight of. 15lbs 3oz $1,600 give or take few
This is a fantastic idea and a great list for people to get started with ultralight backpacking. Seriously impressed with the balance of UL, affordability and quality here. However, I think I'll take you up on your offer to beat it ;) PACK: Granite Gear Virga 2 is $149, or $105 right now on sale (Granite Gear is pretty much permanently on sale) and wieghs 19oz. I consider this pack to be pretty much the best deal in backpacking that no one talks about. Granite Gear are reputable and make great packs, and myself and others have completed thrus with this pack. If a framed pack is required, I'd go with one of Pilgrim UL's off-the-shelf "Highline" packs ($250, 21oz), but the Virga 2 works just as well if you know what to do with your pad. TENT: Has to be the X-Mid 1p, sorry. This tent is just so good and so simple to use, I don't regard this as a tradeoff or sacrifice in any way. $240, 30.8oz PAD: Exped 3R is great, no notes: except I would add a 1/8 Thinlight ($22, +2.7oz). This bumps up the R-value a bit for the beginner ULer and also helps provide structure for your pack. QUILT/BAG: Cumulus 350 (22.4oz, $269). The El Coyote is a great pick but for an extra 3.5oz (compared to the 30*Reg El Coyote) you get a truly world-class quilt from one of the great unsong manufacturers in ultralight backpacking, and you save $50. Cumulus make great stuff. STOVE: BRS-3000 is such a great pick. I could nitpick here and go with a UL alcohol stove, but I don't think it's worth the hassle. POT: IMUSA 0.7Q Al is roughly the size of the Toaks, but it's $7 and 2.5oz. In other words, it's cheaper and lighter (and it cooks better because it's not Ti). This is an old UL favorite but for some reason I don't see it talked about as much these days? I think people just forgot it existed. FILTER: If you're hardcore, a little dropper bottle of bleach will be cheaper, lighter, and simpler than any filter. It is completely safe; you only need to use 1-2 drops per liter, and then you shake it up and wait a bit (much like Potable Aqua, which is chlorine dioxide). If you'd prefer to go with a filter option here, though, I agree with the Versa Flow. HEADLAMP: The old Nitecore NU25 was perfect, but alas they had to tweak it (the new version is actually heavier than the stock old one even though it has the UL mod standard now). Anyway, I'd go with the Rovyvon A5, which is reputable, cheap (same price as the new NU25), and only 0.6 oz. Anyone who isn't familiar with using Rovyvon lights for UL backpacking should now that they've gotten plenty of use and work extremely well for what they are -- they clip onto your hat brim rather than coming with a headband. Justin Outdoors has a couple videos where he uses his. RAINWEAR: Let's face it -- waterproof breathable rainwear is a lie. I've switched to a poncho for most of my on-trail backpacking these days, and the best one under $10 is the "Cosowe" rain poncho (off of Amazon). $10/5-pack and 1.5oz each, the plastic is just a touch thicker (i.e. more durable) than your typical cheap disposable poncho and it comes with elasticated wrists and a cinch-down hood. I took one of these on the Wind River High Route and it worked great. If you absolutely need a jacket... then yeah, I'd go Frogg Toggs. So to sum up, my list will save you net $152 and 12oz, and that's being conservative (assuming you refuse the alcohol stove, bleach and poncho). Looking forward to your video on this list! Thanks Steven :)
I should be clear and say that I used the higher price, not the sale price, for the backpack. I also didn't include a bag, but I would just stick with the CNOC Vecto -- nothing much to say there.
Agree with you on Granite Gear. I got the Crown 60 last year and love it. Not quite as light as the Virga, but very reasonable price when you catch them on sale. Their adjustable hip belt is fantastic for those of us that don't fit the usual hip belt/torso length combinations.
I’m using a big Agnes fly creek UL2 Enlightened equipment 30 revelation Same exped sleeping pad as in video A exped lightning 45 that i stripped down so it’s only about 750grams. Amicus stove, taoks 650, NU25, the lightweight powerbank at 150g, same frogg togg rain jacket, senchi 60 without hood, toaks spoon, zero pump l, befree with a cnoc 2L. And some other small stuff. This is my first ever outdoor gear load out, tried it out 3 times at just around freezing temperatures and was all fine. All from watching many videos from you and other creators. If it wasn’t for that I got a big discount for the bag,tent and sleeping pad I’ve probably went with something else. But I was lucky enough and haven’t regret buying any of it yet!
Love the vid! This gear list is less expensive when converted into $ I think, and it is only a little bit heavier but still it fits well into the ultralight category. Platypus Quickdraw Filter £40-2oz 3F ul gear Quidian Pro Backpack £73-31oz Kelty Cosmic Down 40 Sleeping Bag £120-26oz Lanshan 1 Tent £110-27.5oz 3F ul Gear Foldable Sleeping Mat £20-14.5 oz Toaks Light Titanium 550lm Pot £30-2.5oz BRS 3000 Mini Camping Stove £16-1oz Frog Tog Rain Jacket £25-5.5oz Trek Budy Hiking Poles £30-19.4oz Total Price:£458.50 (excluding any discounts) Total Weight:8lbs
I concede when it comes to the cook system and jacket (and the headlamp), but here's an alternative loadout based on your list in the video: Backpack: Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight 60L - $235, 31.5oz Tent: Durston X-mid 1 - $240, 30.8oz * Alternative Tent: MIER Lanshan Pro 1 person Tent - $235, 27.84oz Sleeping Pad: REI Helix Regular Wide - $169 (often goes on sale), 26 oz, 4.9 R-value Quilt: Outdoor Vitals Stormloft 30 Degree Quilt - $300, 20oz Cook system (cant beat it): BRS 3000T + Toaks Pot - $20 + $26, 0.88oz + 3oz * Alternative cook system: Soto Amicus Stove + Pot w/ lifter - $45 + $42, 2.5oz + 3.2oz Filter: Katadyn BeFree 1L - $45, 2.3oz (saves having to buy the Vecto separately) "Headlamp": Aurora A5 (G4) Flashlight - $37, 0.6oz (nothing passes the NU25 for the features, weight, and price) Jacket (cant beat it): Frogg Toggs - $30, 5.8oz (for just the jacket) Not including alternatives, total before any discounts = $1,102, 120.88oz (7.55lbs). If there was a similar 11% discount applied to the full list, it would be $980.78.
I'm assuming that Lanshan gear doesn't count as "good". Right now the Pro 1 is 24.3 ounces and $180 on Ali Express. If Lanshan is good, keep his exact list and just swap the tent for cheaper and lighter. 🤷♂️
@@umaiaradmittedly ive never used it, which is partly why I marked it as an alternative to the Durston. The Xmid 1 is definitely better for quality but costs and weighs more. His list is great don't get me wrong, but there's still other items I'd much prefer from my list such as the Shadowlight backpack, Stormloft quilt, Helix sleeping pad, and Katadyn filter
I can probably do it, just give me a couple days please. Edit, I'm done Basic Hiking Gear: Kumo 36 Superlight Backpack: 574g, $149.60 Lunar Solo: 728g, $233.99 Oblivion Sleeping Pad ®: 532g, $115.00 20f Bandit 850: 852g, $293.21 PocketRocket 2 Stove: 73g, $59.95 Light Titanium 650ml Pot: 78g, $36.95 Squeeze Water Filter System: 84g, $40.95 1L Water Bottle: 38g, Free Nikore nu25: 1.98oz, $35.00 Frogg toggs jacket: 5.8oz, $27.00 Total Cost: $991.65 Total Weight: 7.01 lb Full gear list for Serious Hiking: BIG 3: Virga 2 (54L): 532g, $149.99 Trekology 2.0 Pillow: 90g, $18.00 Revelation Apex Quilt (30F): 675g, $200.00 LANSHAN 1 PRO: 690g, $170.00 Oblivion Sleeping Pad ®: 632g, $115.00 Nylofume® Pack Liner: 25g, $1.87 Mini GroundHog Stake: 10g, $4.50 Cook System: TOAKS Titanium 750ml Pot: 101g, $26.95 BRS-3000T Ultralight Burner: 28g, $19.99 TOAKS Titanium Long Handle Spoon with Polished Bowl: 20g, $10.95 Platypus QuickDraw Microfilter System: 95g, $49.95 Bic Mini Lighter: 11g, $1.99 Smartwater 1L (Qty:2): 40g, $2.00 Fuel container: 100g, Free Fuel: 109g, Free Utilities: Nitecore NU25 400 Lumen Rechargeable Headlamp: 45g, $32.89 10,000 mAh Power Bank: 165g, $25.00 3in1 Cable: 6g, $15.00 Clothing: Socks: 50g, Free Frogg Toggs Ultralight: 170g, $20.00 $1043.04 Decathlon Trek 100 Down Jacket: 280g, $90.00 Camp Shirt: 200g, Free Camp Pants: 200g, Free Camp Socks: 30g, Free Ditty Bag: Toothbrush: 10g, Free Travel pack Toothpaste Tablets by Huppy: .1 oz, $0.99 .5 Medical Kit by Adventure Medical Kits: 2.32oz, $10.49 BoglerCo Ultralight Trowel: 14g, $15.98 Hand Sanitizer: 28g, $2.50 Toilet Paper: 30g, Free Total Cost: $1,006.04 Total Weight: 9.98 lb The total weight is just under 10 pounds, keeping it ultralight while still being useable in some colder temperatures. Without the wearables and consumables, it would cost $872.55 and weigh 7.26 lbs. The pack is frameless, but it features nicely padded shoulder straps and a belt with padded sides for added comfort without excessive weight. This is already over budget, but some poles are necessary for the tent. The Cascade Mountain Tech Trekking Poles - Carbon Fiber Walking or Hiking Sticks with Quick Adjustable Locks are suggested, not because I have them but because they are cheap, light, and seem to be great quality from all of the reviews. I would also personally ditch the down jacket and hat as most people who are near these climates already have a coat, and if they don’t they probably should not be getting into ultralight backpacking, With this extra money I would get either the coop flash 55, or the Osprey Exos 48 which from what I’ve heard and tried from my friends it's an amazing and comfy backpack with the only large drawback being the compression strap being on the inside, but with this load and a 48L capacity, it should all fit in the pack without the need of the compression strap. The other thing that might be needed are some bags for some of these items and maybe more creature comforts. I would also love to try and make another loadout that fits specific needs like certain weight, cost, or temperature as i have tinkered with it and with certain drawbacks you could get a loadout thay suits different peoples needs.
Been wanting to upgrade from my old headlamp to the NU25 for my upcoming AT section hike and this was right on time! Thanks for helpin me save a couple bucks :)
The price tag is one reason I don’t go ultralight. The durability (or lack thereof) is another. But it’s good gear to know about. I’d include some of it in my kit. Not the tent. Maybe the blanket. Definitely not the pack. Frog Togs are already on my list. Need to check out the water filter. Price sounds real good. But that’s not one to save weight or money on. I feel I could put together a great kit for much less. But some might say it’s just a little heavy! Bag and basic gear is 12#. Add 5# for additional advanced gear. Food and clothes not in that list. Four day hike, im running 30-32# minimum. 34# is my current not-to-exceed weight. I use 20% of body weight as my NTE. In my younger years 25% was commonly discussed. (Rarely listened to! But, it got air time!) my bestie is an ultra light guy. He regularly gives me grief about my “rock collection.” But my repair list is shorter and cheaper after any trip. Bent pegs, broken tent poles, ripped tents and bags…I’ll take the extra 15# for the confidence boost of sturdy gear. There’s always a trade off.
Ok , as a hobo , i want you to do this. With a large 42 x 42 red bandana, make a bindle and live.out of that. I done it for years on and off and even do it with my dogs
MEC Pace Serratus 40L is $189.95 CAD (140 USD) and has load lifters, framed, vest style straps, Dyneema fabric and all that good stuff. With the exchange rate, it is a steal for you guys. TaigaWorks Ronin HyperQuilt is another Canadian option that ships internationally. $309.50 CAD (228 USD). RDS certified goosedown, 850 fill power, draft tube, or they have a slightly cheaper version if you don't want a sewn footbox. That saves a couple hundred bucks off your load out and I honestly like the pack better and both are what I use personally. I also use a Lanshan tent, but that's tough to stack against a Stratospire! I do think they are a good value and a perfectly reasonable option though and a whole lot cheaper internationally.
As a Canadian the MEC Serratus Pace is very interesting pack that I wasn't aware of. I have a Lanshan too, its decent. I feel the Six Moons Scout is the best budget tent. It's 40oz and only $160 USD.
I'm not a hiker (not multi day hikes) but a backpacker, and there's a crossover in gear requirements I find. I've also been quite annoyed with all the packs for backpackers being sold lately - really cater to digital nomads rather than straight up backpackers (imo sleeves for laptops just add weight to the bag cos no way am I taking my laptop). So I found the Gorilla pack very interesting - glad the frame is removable (I don't require) and the weight + comfort + durability are impressive. I just wish it was in basic black - I prefer to not stand out as much as I possibly can when I travel
Nice video. I have used the froggtoggs stuff quite a bit, and highly recommend it. I was very hard on it and had to do some gorilla tape repairs along the way. But for the money, you can't beat their products. That headlamp looks interesting. Thanks for showing that.
Outdoor Vitals Shadow light 45 L & 60 L backpacks..weighs 30.5 oz (45) &31.5 oz (60) ,cost $212 if your a member..non member $ 239 ..high quality and has "load lifters"..what you call "magic straps" ..and honestly load lifters make a difference even on packs this light
Definitely a good gear list - but I will nitpick a little on requirements for the pack and tent. People have different needs and will optimize the load out differently. For this wide audience, it isn't only about optimizing cost vs weight. In my case, I want a pack that is highly water resistant so that I don't have to fuss with a pack cover. A DCF pack is a little higher cost than the pack on this list but I think more water resistant - certainly better than a pack cover. Same with the tent - I want it quick drying among other benefits. And as an older backpacker, weight savings is very important and I will pay a little more for additional weight savings so that I can better enjoy the trail. The loadout in this clip looks to target a price limit and then picks items that have "good" functionality, including a reasonable weight. This is definitely a good target for beginners or those who may have limited funds.
This really is a fantastic loadout! In the event that no one is able to produce a gear list that meets the qualifications, it would be cool if you published the one or two lists that came the closest, and indicated where they fell short.
I went with Hammock Gear economy burrow top quilt, very nice and reasonably priced, 850fp treated down. They run sales often, and sometimes have quilts in stock that are discounted.
My military issue Molle 2 pack cost me $25 in mint condition. Try to find a pack in the size range which is better made and super comfortable . Nice video .
Here's my list that I used on the AT: Backpack: Gossamer gear kumo 36 Tent: Lanshan 1 pro Pad: Nemo switchback torso lenght (I've cut a few panels and I can fit it in the pocket of the kumo where the sit pad is. Sleeping bag: the Aegismax sleeping bag Stove: brs... I mean come on, it's the best for the price Filter: The platypus quickdraw with the waterbag Pot: boundless voyage titanium, basically the same as the toaks but a bit cheaper Headlamp: Nu25 too, but the older model Rainjacket: frogg toggs too
Great video. I would say the RovyVon A5 mini flashlight beats that headlamp. It weights in at half the weight of the headlamp and has way more features. It’s glow in the dark, USBC, multiple modes, and less expensive. Sorry, but I think I win on this one. I love your videos. Kind regards…. Btw for your readers….I made my own quilt for less than half the price. It made it through two thru hikes. PCT and PNT.
@@Andy-MesaHe’s sponsored by the store, not the gear brands. He has an open challenge to provide a better list of gear within the criteria. I believe he has integrity that would prevent him from promoting gear he doesn’t agree with. In prior videos he’s challenged gear claims from company’s selling their items on garage grown gear and he’s had honest reviews and opinions.
Challenge accepted! Only thing I might challenge this list on is the tent, pack and pad. Pack contenders... granite gear crown 3 60. Lighter and cheaper and magic straps.. at $115. Slight step up might be durston kakwa at $240. New rei flash 50 on sale as well. Tent... gossamer gear the 1 or durston xmid 1p Pad, rei helix but wait for the sale....
I just got my custom El Coyote Alphalite 900+ 20° quilt with an extra 2 oz overfill (on top of El Coyote’s standard 30% overfill). The fabric feels AMAZING and it’s so lightweight. I’m used to using a Nemo Disco, which is great, but I wanted more warmth and to shave off a bit more weight.
The EMS anamoly quilts are on sale rn (I got a 30° that was $260 for $125). 850 fill power, ultralight (I think the regular is 20oz) and an zippered foot box for extra ventilation in the summer months.
I felt a little crazy when you said the prices of the sleeping pad and quilt, but I have to assume you're focused on the options available at GGG. It's also been a while since I shopped for gear and prices are going up everywhere. My REI Helix, while heavier at 26oz, is warmer, more comfortable and cheaper at $119 on sale (for any size btw). I've bought three Hammock Gear Economy Burrow's (looks like they call them the Burrow and Burrow UL now). I don't think I paid more than $200 for any of them since I bought them on sale and they've been amazing. This is a fun challenge, though, and a great idea for a video. Thanks for making it happen!
Garage Grown Gear in Canada quilts have prices starting at $400, not including shipping….. Crazy. If you’re looking to stay warm at night look into a higher R-value sleeping pad Something like a big Agnes divide 4 R-Value for $200 CAD
Tent: either 3FUL lanshan or Featherstone Backbone 2P trekkingpole tent. Both cheaper and similar stats. Backpack: I have no experience with your backpack, but I like these cheaper ones: mountainsmith Zerk40, granite gear crown3 60, Mountain Equipment Company Serratus Pace 40L, and mountainsmith scream 55. Pad: Forclaz MT900 air at 134,99 euros in Europe; no clue for the US. R value listed at 5.4, 675grams, and 195x63 P.s. When did including links become illegal?
Gear lists are very subjective. I find an upgrade to a MSR PocketRocket 2 Deluxe, or a Soto Windmaster is worth it for the ability to handle cooking on a windy day; some people think it doesn't matter because they can engineer a windbreak. Some people could go with a thinlite pad, not me because I will get very poor sleep. Sometimes cheap gear works just fine. Sometimes a person needs an upgrade due to specific needs of one's body or the conditions of the place you are going.
I think it's a great list, but I would swap out the pack for a Flash 55 and the pad for an REI Helix. That would save at least $50, but obviously not available at GGG.
Tarptent is a great tent maker, quality, and light weight. I have a Silnylon Tarptent Protrail for simplicity and weight. Fast easy set-up and take down, dries out in five minutes during lunch break.
Another great video! Especially for those just getting into backpacking. I don’t think anyone is going to beat this list for quality, weight and price. However, I would go with the Toaks 550ml not the 750ml pot. Saves an ounce and while the lid won’t close tightly with everything inside it closes enough if held in place with a sack or strap. Another lightweight, inexpensive piece of gear is a Gerber LST Knife. Fixed blade for safety and only .6 ounces.
Tent.lanshan 2 (double wall) or lanshan 2 pro (single wall) are a cheaper and just as good. even more so for lanshan 1 and landahn 1 pro. Many online have tested it and like like it. Paria is very popular for freestanding, but I went with lanshan. different brands mier or 3f ul. Speaking of 3f ul, their packs are cheap and well rated and yours autmoatically loses with no load lifter straps. that is a deal breaker for me. The Yue 45 has a frame their other UL does not. my sleeping bag is the naturehike. works great, cheap and lite. frog toggs is a winner. I also have the toaks, BRS, nitecore so agree with you there...water filter is swayer mini. My total cost is less, but since there are duplicates, not sure if it counts. I like the way you are thinking though!
I believe there is a catch in the challenge since there is no absolute metric. Something could be a little heavier, but more than pay for its weight on quality, comfort and price. Also, what's the point of being light if it's uncomfortable, more expensive and doesn't last as long? I really liked your list, so I'd mainly keep it. My only 2 changes would be: Backpack: decathlon forclaz 500 air 50+10 L (US$ 140) sleeping pad: Paria outdoors XL insulated (US$ 100) The backpack is heavier, but I'd say it is still on the light side, but it adds a lot more in comfort and durability. This backpack might be one of the most underrated backpacks in the market. It's also almost US$ 100 cheaper than yours. For the sleeping pad, it adds 7 ounces. But it's a big one and R-value 4.7. This makes it much more versatile as you can use a higher R-value pad in summer, but can't use a low one in winter. So specially if we are considering someone trying to save money (which is the part of being cheap), a more versatile kit should be considered as it will also add the economy of not having to buy another item for a different weather. I believe my kit to be better as it suits me better, is more versatile, adds a lot more comfort, is cheaper, it's as good or better in quality (materials) and the weight penalty isn't big, specially with the weight savings on other itens.
Dump the tent, ground pad, and trekking poles and use a hammock like the (WintMing Hammock with Mosquito Net and Rain Fly Cover 3 in 1 Camping Hammock Tent 440lbs Load). I like the keychain flashlight like the (Keychain Flashlights,EDC Portable Pocket Bright Flashlight High lumens,USB Rechargeable Mini Keychain Flashlight 600 Lumen,for Daily Using,Backpacking,Camping and Hiking(Fluorescent White)” ). I have never been a fan of quilts as they are just half a bag.
While I agree with you in theory (am always recommending hammock tents to people - fantastic idea!) some of us can't sleep in hammocks (for a whole variety of reasons)
But quilts being half bags is what saves weight, plus you don't really utilize the material you're sleeping on because it gets crushed on the bottom in a sleeping bag (you need loft for warmth) js
I HATE every cubic inch and every oz of stuff that I have to lug around. This is especially true if I only need it at night. I try very hard to make all of my stuff serve at least 2 purposes. Other than my cammies and shoes, my gear and clothing total 9 lbs. That's to be able to handle sleeping ok at 34F in wind and rain. The bivy is $95. I fold over and tape the bottom corners of both the bivy and the envelope, creating a mummy configuration. This mod, of course, reduces the heat-loss from my legs. You dont want the regular-sized bivy. It's sized for little asian guys, altho it's bigger than the ridiculously small SOL Escape bivy. Cut-off the rain flaps on the zippers, cause they WILL jam with you inside of the bivy!
In Europe we have Decathlon 😀 -Backpack in the video is 238 euros. I counter with: Decathlon MT900 backpack -> 150 euros - 1.4kg -Tent in the video is 223 euros. I counter with: Decathlon MT900 tent ->150 euros - 0.9kg -Sleeping pad in the video is 149 euros, I counter with: Decathlon MT500 pad-> 75 euros - R Value of 3.3 - 0.6kg If you guys have time to compare more Decathlon gear with the list in the video you’ll find the same pattern. And it’s good quality gear. Source: I’m tired of paying for overpriced things and I’ve been backpacking and bikepacking for the better part of my life.
@@linguishlanguageschool it's because it's probably closer to the elven cloaks, woven by Galadriel the Lady of the Wood herself. Hence the crazy prices.
Great content and load out! I've been replenishing my backpacking gear lately and just picked up the Gregory Focal 58, MH Strato UL2 tent, ant Nemo Riff 15 sleeping bag, all of which are great alternatives to your choices and are currently on sale.
LOADOUT: Weight: 8.6 - 9.6lbs, Cost: $775 - $976 without discounts. My top choice on left, alternatives follow. Six Moon Skyscape Scout - 40oz - $160 - OR - Six Moon Lunar Solo - 26oz - $260 - OR - Durston 1P - 28oz - $240 Six Moon Minimalist V2 - 41oz - $260 Exped Ultra 3R MW - 19oz - $150 Marmot Nanowave 35F - 27oz - $100 Petzl Tikkina - 3oz - $25 Aquatabs - 0.1oz - $15 - OR - Sawyer Mini - $25 2x Pop Bottles - Free - OR - Platypus 2L Bottle - 1.5oz - $15 Coghlans Emergency Stove +Fuel Tabs (ie Esbit-like) - 6oz - $6 Toaks 750 Pot - 3.6oz - $35 Frogg Toggs Suit - 13oz - $42 - OR - Marmot Precip - 11oz - $100 I believe my list comes in cheaper and slightly lighter, without loss of quality and includes stove fuel. The Six Moon Scout is a great 1P budget starter thats been around for a while. I run a similar setup to above, just with a tarp and a cheaper frameless 30L bag for my weekend/multi-day hiking, but that wasn't in the spirit of this video. I have a bigger Zpacks myself, but Six Moon Minimalist V2 would be my pick if I had to buy a Framed 50L+ right now. I have the BRS3000, its cool but I prefer fuel tabs + folding emergency stove (works out lighter and cheaper), nothing to break, know how much you have left, turn it on side as windscreen/stand and use twigs in a pinch. The Frogg Toggs suit is good but delicate, I prefer the Marmot Precip Jacket (or North Face equiv) for about $100. I think it's a better investment on the rainy east coast. Buy a size too big and get that bellows going to help vent heat/moisture.
Obviously wouldn't meet the requirements of the challenge by having links to buy everything, but all these things you can get SOOO much cheaper by buying used. Backpackers are notorious for always looking for that next new piece of gear, which means the old stuff is always popping up online for resale. There's a gossamer gear gorilla pack on my local FB marketplace for $120 right now. Obviously, it's harder and has some drawbacks. You don't want to commit to buying until you've seen the gear first and verified it isn't falling apart, and buying local is gonna be so much easier and cheaper (and less likely to encounter scammers) than paying for shipping. But it means you'll have to be patient if you want specific gear, especially if you live in an area with fewer trails (I'm in Texas, which...isn't great). But for anyone intimidated by the massive price tag even on the "cheapest" quality gear, know that you can pretty easily cut that price tag in half by shopping around on local resale sites.
Cheaper for less: The Tomshoo and Lixada 750ml titanium pots off Ali are actually identical (to the Toaks pot), most likely same factory, and costs 15-16 ish with shipping.
"Better" is totally subjective but this is the loadout I would buy based on my research and what I think would work for me. OV Shadowlight 45 $235 30.5oz Paria Recharge XL $100 26oz Paria Thermodown 15 Quilt $180 35oz Lanshan 1p tent $139 27oz Toaks 750 $26 3.6oz BRS Stove $16 1.6oz Katadyn BeFree 3l $60 6.8oz Black Diamond Cosmo 350 $35 2.8oz Frogg Togg UL2 Jacket$25 5.5oz $816 and about 8.7lbs Trekking poles should also be listed in the cost of your loadout because the are necessary for the tent setup. I left them off my list to keep it the same.
Another great option for a lightweight, high quality pack at a fantastic price point is the Granite Gear Crown 60. It's 60 liters instead of 50 and weighs 2 ounces more than the 50l Goss Gear
Hey Stephen! I’ve worked as a backcountry guide up in Ontario for quite a few years now and I think I might have a list that can beat your own;) I’d love to make a video on my loadout but I’m curious what the timeline for this challenge is. Great vid btw:)
AMEN the Mariposa layout and everything else is unmatched - I just grew out of it. I will give you the one to review. The GG frameless G4-20...very similar. Always start at Gossamer Gear thru GGG. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Looks like a good kit. You could consider the REI 55 backpack, Nemo hornet 2P, Paria 20 degree quilt, MSR pocket rocket 2 or Soto wind master, REI helix sleep pad which is 4R, Soto Pot, paria water bag and filter combination.
What pack would you suggest for someone 6'2" with a long torso? I need a new pack, all I have is really heavy freighters. I used to get my gear under 30lbs for hunting season, but I don't hunt anymore, and I often hammock camp, so I think I can do with a really ultralight bag. But I would like to have a lot of volume so I am not feeling like I am always cramming everything in there.
What is this black jacket you have at 1:48? I've seen it in a few of your videos, and I feel like you've talked about it before, but I can't find any reference to it.
For a budget pack, I'd use the GG Kumo 36 Fastpack instead. You lose some internal room and the frame, but moving a lot of the load to the front of the running-vest style straps really helps with how heavy the load feels. The Durston 1P for a whole $1 more feels like a lot better choice to me, mostly due to the ease of pitching. If someone is buying their first ultralight kit, the gear being easy to use is essential. Swap the Quilt for a Cumulus Quilt 350, it has a limit rating of 25 and a comfort rating of 35, so it should compare reasonably to the El Coyote 30 degree quilt. You sacrifice 4 ounces of weight, but save $50 (assuming regular length and width for both quilts)
Got the Gossamer gear bag last year and... it fucked up my back. Turns out if you do long days (I was doing 50km days), and have a particularly sweaty back, then it just rubs me up the wrong way (pun intended). So as well as prioritising equipment that is cheap/light make sure that your equipment suits your individual needs. I'm much happier hiking with a Gregory Optic with the gap between the back and the pack, even if it does weigh a few extra pounds/grams.
Best lightweight budget gear load out *Granit gear crown 2 60L 35.2oz $200 *Featherstone backbone 1p 22oz $180 *Outdoor Vitals Ultralight Insulated Sleeping Pad $70 16oz & 4 R value *Featherstone moon dance quilt 23oz $220 *LIXADA Camping Cup Pot,750ml Stainless Steel 7oz $15 *Potable Aqua Iodine Tablets 1oz $10 *Foxelli LED Headlamp Rechargeable 2.4oz $18 *Rain rider ultra light rain coat and pants 10oz $20 All better quality and cheaper at full price and a lot you can get on sale only backpack with extra 10 liter and pot is heavier
My list includes: Montane trailblazer 44l Durston x-mid Outdoor vitals stormloft 30° long REI Helix Brs 3000t Toaks 650ml Frogg toggs ul Trekology 2.0 pillow Sawyer squeeze and 2 smartwater bottles The total price came out to be about 975$ and the weight 3,93kg=8lb 10oz
my set-up is cheaper and more lightweight... [for example my single layer/person tent fits in the leg pocket of my cargo pants... it's frameless, and I make 4 pegs on the spot using sticks... in my other pocket I carry a poncho, that can double as a second layer over my tent...] I already have my carefully selected set... so I don't need a second as a gift... why would I share it with ''the world?''... I will just say one thing and that's all... DON'T PAY FOR ''BRANDS''... I shop from cheap Chinese knock-offs... but I'm very selective... if you want cheap, you must cheat!... because cheap is cheat... or you get to be cheated... or better yet...'' branded''... lol I'm all about ''shopping local''.... and it doesn't get more ''local'' than my pocket...my own wallet!
Is there a difference in space between a backpacking tent and a regular heavy tent? I’ve only owned a backpacking and I have a 2 person for me because it feels nicer to have some room. So does a 2 person heavy tent have the same room for me to put another in and have space or would I have to get a 3-4 person tent?
In general, tents of the same design and "person size" all run roughly the same regardless of their weight, so while there's some variance from tent to tent you're usually not going to get a significantly larger tent unless you go from something like a 3-6 pound 2 person backpacking tent to a 15-20 pound 2 person cabin tent. Tunnel tents often run a little larger than average, though, and while they might be heavier than a typical dome style tent of the same materials it's usually nothing approaching the weight of a cabin tent you'd have to pull down the trail in a wagon. Basically, if you want a tent that will fit two people with any breathing room at all, you're going to have to buy a 3 person tent. To actually be comfortable you're going to want a 4 person, but if you split the weight it's not so bad.
That's a bold challenge Steven. Find a better, cheaper, lighter load out. Challenge ...not accepted! lol I think you did a fantastic job with your load out!
Does someone in the comments have a good recommendation on a new backpack? Im not into extreme ultralight hiking. But im starting to slowly upgrade my gear so I would like something in between and not to expensive. Also I like it minimal. Not too many rings and bells. ✌️ thanks (Im hiking the PCT this year)
Ive a problem! Its severe difficult to find a sleep system, and tent that i can afford and fits my body ( 191cm; 6 foot 25) with Hulk Hogan shoulders! Yes i can have a supplement weekend job But then no weekend hikes So i switch to a Dutch M65 modular sleep system, incl goretex heavy duty bivy, a savotta PDF sleeppad and a Berghaus crusader II backpack Yes i have a weightlifter body I do 2 dayhikes a week ( 8 & 20 Km, whats that in miles? Have to calculate it) 3 times a week jazz dance! ( Balance, mobility & flex, incl planks, push ups squats and core, dudes dont forget your backmussles and feet/ ankle exerzizes Who have extreme strong feet/ankles!? Ballerina's Is it an idiot idea to do those exercises!? It doesnt turn you gay or trans! And if so, no problem! I live on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean! Maybe i sell you my baby brother his pleaser high heels in size 16! For the girls,
Ok, here's your list: Backpack: granite gear crown 3 60 technically costs less because ggg states they dont do discounts on gossamer gear products so his price is inaccurate. My bag also has more capacity and features for only an additional 6oz. Tent: paria bryce 1p (trail weight of 2lbs 15 oz, but since you left out the trekking poles required for yours and they typically weigh 1lb and cost well over $100, that makes this freestanding tent both lighter and vastly cheaper than yours.) Pad: klymit static v2 Quilt: enlightened equipment enigma apex 40 (not quite as warm as his but very high quality and can manage moisture better.) Stove: the brs is great for canister fuel, but the pill bottle stove ends up being lighter and cheaper due to the acohol fuel. Pot: toaks 550. Totally big enough and even lighter. Water filter: same as your selection for conventional filter, but aquamira tabs are even lighter. Bladder: smart water bottle Light: duracell headlamp is cheaper but the rovyvon a8 is the ultimate for weight savings. Rain coat/suit: frogg toggs are a good option here due to cost and weight, but an ultralight umbrella like the gossamer gear lighttrek is even better thanks to the breathability. I would add links to this, but i already added links to my gear choices in one comment and its now gone, so idk if youtube got rid of it or if he just didnt like that i answered his dare.
Not a bad list but you've got some big trade-offs (using aquatabs instead of filtering means you've got to wait longer to drink water). Also alcohol stoves are less flexible (banned in many places).
@@spicy_mintthats why I gave options for those. It seems like he might prioritize weight over everything so I wanted some lighter options, but i agree that a conventional stove and water filter are better for most people. His criteria is very subjective...
@mylifeoutdoors are you not gonna live up to your word? That's pretty dishonest of you. I did what you asked. Should I contact a lawyer about this? You made a promise and I fulfilled it. You can't set out a challenge with a prize and then refuse to follow through with it.
Full backpacking gear list on Amazon for under 1000 and will last over 2000 miles Clothes Darn tough socks - 21.95 Mier running shorts- $21.99 Willit sun hoodie- $23.99 32 Degree base layer tights-$12.99 32 Degree base layer crew top-$12.99 Outdoor Ventures puffer jacket- $59.99 Frog Toggs-$19.90 Cook system/ bear hang Sawyer mini-$22.40 Tito titanium long spork-$7.99 Toaks 750ml pot-26.24 BRS stove-$16.95 Selkirk Design Ultralight Food Bag Hanging System-$32.95 Sleep/shelter Featherstone backbone 1p-$159.99 Featherstone moon dance quilt-$229.99 SleepNgo air pad - $25.99 Cascade aluminum trekking poles-$24.86 Electronics Foxelli rechargeable headlamp-$14.97 Anker 10,000 Mah power bank -$16.19 Trowel Coghlans Trowel-$2.99 Total cost $999.06 All at great weight cost and durability
Here is my list. All high-quality gear, for less. No discount codes. No repeats from your list. Pack: Granite Gear Virga3 55L: $200 Tent: Tarp Tent Protrail: $239 Pad: Klymit Static V2: $75 Quilt: Warbonnet 30 long wide: $252 Stove: Zelphs Fancee Feest: $17 Pot: Imusa .7 qt: $7 (make own lid or buy one at dutchware for $8) Water Filter: Platypus quick draw w/ 1liter bag: $42 Optional additional waterbag: Evernew 2000ml: $15 Light source: Olight 15R EOS 350: $36 Rain jacket: Warbonnet Stash Jacket: $100 Total cost: $968 - $991 Weight: Around 105oz
I can’t get the discount code to work, and also am wondering about the 2 person version of the tent, and the tall/wide versions of the quilt and sleeping pad, will the code work for those (if it works at all?) - thanks for all your work, I enjoy your videos and trust your advice.
For your water system you have versa filter $22.95 and 2.0 oz plus CNoc vecto bag 2.8oz $23.95 total is $46.90 and 4.8oz A BeFree filter and bag is $44.95 and 2.3oz both lighter and cheaper and no sale needed.
I have a nitecore NU33 and gave a HA11 to my gf. I think the HA11 would fit even better in this list, it has the same cord strap and uses a single AA battery, its also much cheaper
Mountain Warehouse Inca 90L backpack £99 (Though I got mine cheaper) Best backpack I've owned. Its also the best looking. NatureHike Cloud Peak 2-3 Person £169, (though I got mine on sale) For the price this Tent is ahead of it self, its so easy to pack and put up, someone said to me its basically a pop up Tent, two doors, extraordinary useful and roomy. My stove from Go Outdoors £15, more expensive but it has 3 legs and a tube making life much easier, and compacts down inside a tiny box, infinetly useful And admittedly I don't own proper versions of the rest, but those 3 I've mentioned all looked way better in most aspects that's what you showed for wayy more money.
Thanks for this great video! I have been looking at tents that use trekking poles for support, but as a short person, I use poles that are only 110cm tall and that is not tall enough for the StratoSpire tent. Is there a lightweight alternative to use in pitching the tent? Or something I can use to adapt my poles?
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I'll call your bluff and raise you a comfort I will start with the flash 55 Followed by the Lanshan3 Pay the extra get the seams sealed. naturehike -3 Snowbird.. Sawyer Minnie. Zeepair sleeping pad I got one of these airpads and founded to be as comfortable as my Big Agnes UL. .I'll go with the Comtai 750ml Deeper lip on the pot lid doesn't slide off .. the BRS Stove It's hard to beat however there are a lot of Chinese white label stoves that are Identical. I would stay with the Cnoc vector 2L Great product for the price.. Don't think I would change the light either, That's a great light. Personally I have a strong dislike for frog togs And carry a lightweight poncho If I'm concerned about whether has more than one use.. Quality and comfort are often subjective Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
www.rei.com/product/216571/rei-co-op-flash-55-pack-mens
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www.naturehike.com/products/naturehike-outdoor-ultra-light-snowbird-mummy-duck-down-sleeping-bag
www.amazon.com/COMTAI-Titanium-Foldable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B0BYMPHL9Y/ref=sxin_26_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f%3Aamzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&crid=1EA5HZNJI7Y1P&cv_ct_cx=750ml+titanium+pot&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JIt90ocNlFtjod-_2jZQ26G-WPjeopqWBe5PlduTUN_OzlpvwvcUUodH3vy9n7B_3EbihVpzkaacpflxyBxRxg.Qkfj3FtDYV30oIfJp2cZLEL0CVRQIzChYli_Y07Fd70&dib_tag=se&keywords=750ml+titanium+pot&pd_rd_i=B0BYMPHL9Y&pd_rd_r=e499f3b0-13aa-442f-b3d9-39ee1554e366&pd_rd_w=TRMty&pd_rd_wg=0LjMi&pf_rd_p=3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&pf_rd_r=TXQ390VXKT64N19N56C7&qid=1709584883&sprefix=750ml+t%2Caps%2C226&sr=1-2-364cf978-ce2a-480a-9bb0-bdb96faa0f61-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1
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I'll call your bluff and raise you a comfort I will start with the flash 55 Followed by the Lanshan3 Pay the extra get the seams sealed. naturehike -3 Snowbird.. Sawyer Minnie. Zeepair sleeping pad I got one of these airpads and founded to be as comfortable as my Big Agnes UL. .I'll go with the Comtai 750ml Deeper lip on the pot lid doesn't slide off .. the BRS Stove It's hard to beat however there are a lot of Chinese white label stoves that are Identical. I would stay with the Cnoc vector 2L Great product for the price.. Don't think I would change the light either, That's a great light. Personally I have a strong dislike for frog togs And carry a lightweight poncho If I'm concerned about Bad weather. It has more than one use.. Quality and comfort are often subjective Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..
((Yes I understand I'm helping the commies With some of my options Garage Grown Gear Are American companies))
www.rei.com/product/216571/rei-co-op-flash-55-pack-mens
www.amazon.com/MIER-Ultralight-3-Season-Backpacking-1-Person/dp/B08PYZ3LG7/ref=asc_df_B08PYZ3LG7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647205140334&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14221874757966470712&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033130&hvtargid=pla-1404897847338&psc=1&mcid=14c6b2348f1730e0a60fcaf8179dbe1e
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www.naturehike.com/products/naturehike-outdoor-ultra-light-snowbird-mummy-duck-down-sleeping-bag
www.amazon.com/COMTAI-Titanium-Foldable-Backpacking-Cookware/dp/B0BYMPHL9Y/ref=sxin_26_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f%3Aamzn1.sym.3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&crid=1EA5HZNJI7Y1P&cv_ct_cx=750ml+titanium+pot&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.JIt90ocNlFtjod-_2jZQ26G-WPjeopqWBe5PlduTUN_OzlpvwvcUUodH3vy9n7B_3EbihVpzkaacpflxyBxRxg.Qkfj3FtDYV30oIfJp2cZLEL0CVRQIzChYli_Y07Fd70&dib_tag=se&keywords=750ml+titanium+pot&pd_rd_i=B0BYMPHL9Y&pd_rd_r=e499f3b0-13aa-442f-b3d9-39ee1554e366&pd_rd_w=TRMty&pd_rd_wg=0LjMi&pf_rd_p=3bce4b9c-ab81-4c84-a30e-ebb927eb0d4f&pf_rd_r=TXQ390VXKT64N19N56C7&qid=1709584883&sprefix=750ml+t%2Caps%2C226&sr=1-2-364cf978-ce2a-480a-9bb0-bdb96faa0f61-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1
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Challenges expected I committed all the same feat but cheaper items in which most are lighter
How about you follow through with your promise and give people free gear who managed to do what you asked? Are you a liar?
What about using a Mylar blanket instead your sleeping bag?
Great video as always Steven! I’ll take you up on the challenge!
-Backpack - Saccus 48L by Bonfus - 15.5 oz. - $279
-Tent- Lanshan 1 - 2.2 lbs - $130
-Sleeping pad- PARIA XL Insulated - 26 oz. -$100
-Quilt- Featherstone Moondance 23 oz. - $220
-Filter- Katadyn b Free - 2 oz. - $45
-Stove- BRS - 28 grams -$16
-Pot- Toaks 550 - 2.6 oz (72 grams) $30
-NU25 - 28g - $36 (same)
-Frog toggs jacket - 5.8 oz - $20 (same)
Total Price = $876
Total Weight= 112.1 Ounces or 7.006 lbs.
I also used GGG because they are awesome but made some personal changes obviously!
I like this list, especially since it gives you more cash room to upgrade the quilt if needed.
I beat you in price and weight.
Good list but don’t get discouraged by the prices. Find what you want and wait for sales like on Black Friday. Got all my gear over a period of time by buying when they’re on sale. Got some items on marketplace as well. Sign up for all the email newsletters from the companies you like and they’ll notify you when there’s a sale. There’s good deals out there but you have to be patient and shop smart, you’ll save hundreds on high quality gear.
This is a very good point. And the best way to get light/high quality stuff for cheap
Agreed. Honestly, whenever I'm helping someone build out a gear kit at least 1-2 items are on discount. I tried to do my best using retail prices though.
For the quilt one could go for cumulus quilt 350 or cumulus taiga 360. Similar price, fill, and temps. Not much better, just another option, although I know for a fact that as a polish brand cumulus down is top notch.
Am I the only one who noticed this list includes a trekking pole tent but doesn’t include trekking poles ?
I pointed this out too, but he clearly doesnt care. In fact, the prices he listed for the tent and backpack arent even accurate because ggg doesnt honor discoumts for those brands. This whole thing is just an arrogant way for him to tell his audience that he knows everything.
If you use the code it will still discount it there cowboy. @@flybyguy1450
I mentioned it in my gear list too, though I double it's a malicious exclusion. Often there's an assumption that people have certain things; he also didn't include footwear but I'm assuming he didn't think folks would hike barefoot. It's a list for the purpose of making a list :)
Trekking poles isn't considered a part of the "Big three" plus it's most likely assumed that most backpackers would already have trekking poles.
He also ignored others things, like the weight of the gastank for his stove. And infaced the weight of the tent he listed is not correct. Or at least the weight in gramm.
but I still was able to beat his price by 140$ and still having 600g less.. So his list is not very competitiv.
I think the only change I'd throw in is swapping the tent for a freestanding or semi-freestanding option. Often times when folks are looking for the "budget" option, they're new to something. As much as I like my Lanshan 2 that weighs nothing, setting up trekking pole tents is a pain, even with practice, particularly at the end of a long walk. The frustration of finicky tents for people wanting to go the budget route to try things out could be a determining factor in their enjoyment. My Taga 2 (similar to the Tarptent Double Rainbow) is my preferred tent as it's easier to set up and isn't heavy. If I had an REI Quarterdome i'd probably end up using that.
Macon's shoestring list has been around forever and I think that's always been at a $500 price point.
Also, if you've got access to a fully stocked Decathlon there is great value to be had here. The MT100 50L is a bit heavier than the UL stuff sack style bags, but it's half the price, has more adjustability, and is relatively bomb proof. They also have some cool ultra light gear, like their new tents, but they haven't made it to the states. It kinda sucks Deacthlon is imploding in the United States, there was so much promise.
We have decathlon starting to expand in Canada here and wish they had the European selection! Even as is, they are great value for what you get!
He also exlcuded the cost and weight of trekking poles needed to setup his tent.
@@brentperron6914 Yeah Decathlon in the US has had almost nothing in stock compared to Canada and Mexico for the past few years. A few months ago they announced they're reducing operations, which is funny when I consider them barely operational in the first place.
I've gotten several things from decathlon including my 55L pack, backpacking chair, trekking poles, and my rain shell. Ordered all from their website and very happy with price and quality.
OK my list (4rd try without links):
Backpack $100 NatureHike 40+5L
Tarptent $120 Jurek Tarp 2 UL
Tyvek $7
Sleeping pad 2,8R $52 Zulu Moonlight confort
Sleeping bag $225 Warmpeace Viking 600
Stove EMO alcohol $38
Pot $28 titanium pot 600ml
Headlamp $13 Decathlon onnigtht 100 3xAAA
and rest is are yours items:
VersaFlow Filter
Cnoc Vecto 2L
Frogg Toggs Suit
You are right about one thing. The quilts are fricking impossible to get a cheap and good one. There might be some good US ones out there. But I am not paying $80 for cross Atlantic shipping.
I’m not sure how much they are these days, but a friend of mine swears by his Aegismax bag from AliExpress
Get a poncho liner Woobie. $30-40 or less. 1lb.
Ok so im really excited for this video as i just put together my first ultralight pack ive always been a traditional backpacker but recently i decided to make the change i was curious to see what items that was choosen that i also picked for my setup ,,,,this is my loadout ,,,,
Mariposa 60L
Xmid-1 solid
Nemo tensor wide regular
Nemo fillow pillow
HG burrow 30°
Hummingbird hammock w/ straps
Outdoorresearch helium rainjacket
Decathlon forclaz mt100
Cnoc 2L bladder
Sawyer squeeze
Hydropack 1L
Pocket rocket 2
Toaks 750
Toaks spoon
Petzl bindi headlamp
NB10000 gen 2
Tushy towel
Culoclean bidet
Then my diddy bag and med bag
Coming in at base weight of. 15lbs 3oz
$1,600 give or take few
I love the forclaz mt100 👍🏾
@jonathanv.8298 same ! After I used mine I went and got 2 for my dad and brother lol
This is a fantastic idea and a great list for people to get started with ultralight backpacking. Seriously impressed with the balance of UL, affordability and quality here. However, I think I'll take you up on your offer to beat it ;)
PACK: Granite Gear Virga 2 is $149, or $105 right now on sale (Granite Gear is pretty much permanently on sale) and wieghs 19oz. I consider this pack to be pretty much the best deal in backpacking that no one talks about. Granite Gear are reputable and make great packs, and myself and others have completed thrus with this pack. If a framed pack is required, I'd go with one of Pilgrim UL's off-the-shelf "Highline" packs ($250, 21oz), but the Virga 2 works just as well if you know what to do with your pad.
TENT: Has to be the X-Mid 1p, sorry. This tent is just so good and so simple to use, I don't regard this as a tradeoff or sacrifice in any way. $240, 30.8oz
PAD: Exped 3R is great, no notes: except I would add a 1/8 Thinlight ($22, +2.7oz). This bumps up the R-value a bit for the beginner ULer and also helps provide structure for your pack.
QUILT/BAG: Cumulus 350 (22.4oz, $269). The El Coyote is a great pick but for an extra 3.5oz (compared to the 30*Reg El Coyote) you get a truly world-class quilt from one of the great unsong manufacturers in ultralight backpacking, and you save $50. Cumulus make great stuff.
STOVE: BRS-3000 is such a great pick. I could nitpick here and go with a UL alcohol stove, but I don't think it's worth the hassle.
POT: IMUSA 0.7Q Al is roughly the size of the Toaks, but it's $7 and 2.5oz. In other words, it's cheaper and lighter (and it cooks better because it's not Ti). This is an old UL favorite but for some reason I don't see it talked about as much these days? I think people just forgot it existed.
FILTER: If you're hardcore, a little dropper bottle of bleach will be cheaper, lighter, and simpler than any filter. It is completely safe; you only need to use 1-2 drops per liter, and then you shake it up and wait a bit (much like Potable Aqua, which is chlorine dioxide). If you'd prefer to go with a filter option here, though, I agree with the Versa Flow.
HEADLAMP: The old Nitecore NU25 was perfect, but alas they had to tweak it (the new version is actually heavier than the stock old one even though it has the UL mod standard now). Anyway, I'd go with the Rovyvon A5, which is reputable, cheap (same price as the new NU25), and only 0.6 oz. Anyone who isn't familiar with using Rovyvon lights for UL backpacking should now that they've gotten plenty of use and work extremely well for what they are -- they clip onto your hat brim rather than coming with a headband. Justin Outdoors has a couple videos where he uses his.
RAINWEAR: Let's face it -- waterproof breathable rainwear is a lie. I've switched to a poncho for most of my on-trail backpacking these days, and the best one under $10 is the "Cosowe" rain poncho (off of Amazon). $10/5-pack and 1.5oz each, the plastic is just a touch thicker (i.e. more durable) than your typical cheap disposable poncho and it comes with elasticated wrists and a cinch-down hood. I took one of these on the Wind River High Route and it worked great. If you absolutely need a jacket... then yeah, I'd go Frogg Toggs.
So to sum up, my list will save you net $152 and 12oz, and that's being conservative (assuming you refuse the alcohol stove, bleach and poncho).
Looking forward to your video on this list! Thanks Steven :)
I should be clear and say that I used the higher price, not the sale price, for the backpack. I also didn't include a bag, but I would just stick with the CNOC Vecto -- nothing much to say there.
Agree with you on Granite Gear. I got the Crown 60 last year and love it. Not quite as light as the Virga, but very reasonable price when you catch them on sale. Their adjustable hip belt is fantastic for those of us that don't fit the usual hip belt/torso length combinations.
Hey @maxwellerickson7066 This is Steven. Will you shoot me an email at info@mylifeoutdoors.com
I’m using a big Agnes fly creek UL2
Enlightened equipment 30 revelation
Same exped sleeping pad as in video
A exped lightning 45 that i stripped down so it’s only about 750grams. Amicus stove, taoks 650, NU25, the lightweight powerbank at 150g, same frogg togg rain jacket, senchi 60 without hood, toaks spoon, zero pump l, befree with a cnoc 2L. And some other small stuff. This is my first ever outdoor gear load out, tried it out 3 times at just around freezing temperatures and was all fine. All from watching many videos from you and other creators. If it wasn’t for that I got a big discount for the bag,tent and sleeping pad I’ve probably went with something else. But I was lucky enough and haven’t regret buying any of it yet!
Love the vid!
This gear list is less expensive when converted into $ I think, and it is only a little bit heavier but still it fits well into the ultralight category.
Platypus Quickdraw Filter £40-2oz
3F ul gear Quidian Pro Backpack £73-31oz
Kelty Cosmic Down 40 Sleeping Bag £120-26oz
Lanshan 1 Tent £110-27.5oz
3F ul Gear Foldable Sleeping Mat £20-14.5 oz
Toaks Light Titanium 550lm Pot £30-2.5oz
BRS 3000 Mini Camping Stove £16-1oz
Frog Tog Rain Jacket £25-5.5oz
Trek Budy Hiking Poles £30-19.4oz
Total Price:£458.50 (excluding any discounts)
Total Weight:8lbs
Lost me with the sleeping mat and not an inflatable pad.
If you put two sleeping pads on top of each other the R values stack so you can put an inflatable sleeping pad on top.
I concede when it comes to the cook system and jacket (and the headlamp), but here's an alternative loadout based on your list in the video:
Backpack: Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight 60L - $235, 31.5oz
Tent: Durston X-mid 1 - $240, 30.8oz
* Alternative Tent: MIER Lanshan Pro 1 person Tent - $235, 27.84oz
Sleeping Pad: REI Helix Regular Wide - $169 (often goes on sale), 26 oz, 4.9 R-value
Quilt: Outdoor Vitals Stormloft 30 Degree Quilt - $300, 20oz
Cook system (cant beat it): BRS 3000T + Toaks Pot - $20 + $26, 0.88oz + 3oz
* Alternative cook system: Soto Amicus Stove + Pot w/ lifter - $45 + $42, 2.5oz + 3.2oz
Filter: Katadyn BeFree 1L - $45, 2.3oz (saves having to buy the Vecto separately)
"Headlamp": Aurora A5 (G4) Flashlight - $37, 0.6oz (nothing passes the NU25 for the features, weight, and price)
Jacket (cant beat it): Frogg Toggs - $30, 5.8oz (for just the jacket)
Not including alternatives, total before any discounts = $1,102, 120.88oz (7.55lbs). If there was a similar 11% discount applied to the full list, it would be $980.78.
I'm assuming that Lanshan gear doesn't count as "good". Right now the Pro 1 is 24.3 ounces and $180 on Ali Express.
If Lanshan is good, keep his exact list and just swap the tent for cheaper and lighter. 🤷♂️
@@umaiaradmittedly ive never used it, which is partly why I marked it as an alternative to the Durston. The Xmid 1 is definitely better for quality but costs and weighs more.
His list is great don't get me wrong, but there's still other items I'd much prefer from my list such as the Shadowlight backpack, Stormloft quilt, Helix sleeping pad, and Katadyn filter
I can probably do it, just give me a couple days please.
Edit, I'm done
Basic Hiking Gear:
Kumo 36 Superlight Backpack: 574g, $149.60
Lunar Solo: 728g, $233.99
Oblivion Sleeping Pad ®: 532g, $115.00
20f Bandit 850: 852g, $293.21
PocketRocket 2 Stove: 73g, $59.95
Light Titanium 650ml Pot: 78g, $36.95
Squeeze Water Filter System: 84g, $40.95
1L Water Bottle: 38g, Free
Nikore nu25: 1.98oz, $35.00
Frogg toggs jacket: 5.8oz, $27.00
Total Cost: $991.65 Total Weight: 7.01 lb
Full gear list for Serious Hiking:
BIG 3:
Virga 2 (54L): 532g, $149.99
Trekology 2.0 Pillow: 90g, $18.00
Revelation Apex Quilt (30F): 675g, $200.00
LANSHAN 1 PRO: 690g, $170.00
Oblivion Sleeping Pad ®: 632g, $115.00
Nylofume® Pack Liner: 25g, $1.87
Mini GroundHog Stake: 10g, $4.50
Cook System:
TOAKS Titanium 750ml Pot: 101g, $26.95
BRS-3000T Ultralight Burner: 28g, $19.99
TOAKS Titanium Long Handle Spoon with Polished Bowl: 20g, $10.95
Platypus QuickDraw Microfilter System: 95g, $49.95
Bic Mini Lighter: 11g, $1.99
Smartwater 1L (Qty:2): 40g, $2.00
Fuel container: 100g, Free
Fuel: 109g, Free
Utilities:
Nitecore NU25 400 Lumen Rechargeable Headlamp: 45g, $32.89
10,000 mAh Power Bank: 165g, $25.00
3in1 Cable: 6g, $15.00
Clothing:
Socks: 50g, Free
Frogg Toggs Ultralight: 170g, $20.00
$1043.04
Decathlon Trek 100 Down Jacket: 280g, $90.00
Camp Shirt: 200g, Free
Camp Pants: 200g, Free
Camp Socks: 30g, Free
Ditty Bag:
Toothbrush: 10g, Free
Travel pack Toothpaste Tablets by Huppy: .1 oz, $0.99
.5 Medical Kit by Adventure Medical Kits: 2.32oz, $10.49
BoglerCo Ultralight Trowel: 14g, $15.98
Hand Sanitizer: 28g, $2.50
Toilet Paper: 30g, Free
Total Cost: $1,006.04 Total Weight: 9.98 lb
The total weight is just under 10 pounds, keeping it ultralight while still being useable in some colder temperatures. Without the wearables and consumables, it would cost $872.55 and weigh 7.26 lbs. The pack is frameless, but it features nicely padded shoulder straps and a belt with padded sides for added comfort without excessive weight. This is already over budget, but some poles are necessary for the tent. The Cascade Mountain Tech Trekking Poles - Carbon Fiber Walking or Hiking Sticks with Quick Adjustable Locks are suggested, not because I have them but because they are cheap, light, and seem to be great quality from all of the reviews. I would also personally ditch the down jacket and hat as most people who are near these climates already have a coat, and if they don’t they probably should not be getting into ultralight backpacking, With this extra money I would get either the coop flash 55, or the Osprey Exos 48 which from what I’ve heard and tried from my friends it's an amazing and comfy backpack with the only large drawback being the compression strap being on the inside, but with this load and a 48L capacity, it should all fit in the pack without the need of the compression strap. The other thing that might be needed are some bags for some of these items and maybe more creature comforts. I would also love to try and make another loadout that fits specific needs like certain weight, cost, or temperature as i have tinkered with it and with certain drawbacks you could get a loadout thay suits different peoples needs.
Been wanting to upgrade from my old headlamp to the NU25 for my upcoming AT section hike and this was right on time! Thanks for helpin me save a couple bucks :)
The price tag is one reason I don’t go ultralight. The durability (or lack thereof) is another. But it’s good gear to know about. I’d include some of it in my kit. Not the tent. Maybe the blanket. Definitely not the pack. Frog Togs are already on my list. Need to check out the water filter. Price sounds real good. But that’s not one to save weight or money on. I feel I could put together a great kit for much less. But some might say it’s just a little heavy! Bag and basic gear is 12#. Add 5# for additional advanced gear. Food and clothes not in that list. Four day hike, im running 30-32# minimum. 34# is my current not-to-exceed weight. I use 20% of body weight as my NTE. In my younger years 25% was commonly discussed. (Rarely listened to! But, it got air time!) my bestie is an ultra light guy. He regularly gives me grief about my “rock collection.” But my repair list is shorter and cheaper after any trip. Bent pegs, broken tent poles, ripped tents and bags…I’ll take the extra 15# for the confidence boost of sturdy gear. There’s always a trade off.
Ok , as a hobo , i want you to do this. With a large 42 x 42 red bandana, make a bindle and live.out of that. I done it for years on and off and even do it with my dogs
MEC Pace Serratus 40L is $189.95 CAD (140 USD) and has load lifters, framed, vest style straps, Dyneema fabric and all that good stuff. With the exchange rate, it is a steal for you guys.
TaigaWorks Ronin HyperQuilt is another Canadian option that ships internationally. $309.50 CAD (228 USD). RDS certified goosedown, 850 fill power, draft tube, or they have a slightly cheaper version if you don't want a sewn footbox.
That saves a couple hundred bucks off your load out and I honestly like the pack better and both are what I use personally. I also use a Lanshan tent, but that's tough to stack against a Stratospire! I do think they are a good value and a perfectly reasonable option though and a whole lot cheaper internationally.
As a Canadian the MEC Serratus Pace is very interesting pack that I wasn't aware of. I have a Lanshan too, its decent. I feel the Six Moons Scout is the best budget tent. It's 40oz and only $160 USD.
I'm not a hiker (not multi day hikes) but a backpacker, and there's a crossover in gear requirements I find.
I've also been quite annoyed with all the packs for backpackers being sold lately - really cater to digital nomads rather than straight up backpackers (imo sleeves for laptops just add weight to the bag cos no way am I taking my laptop).
So I found the Gorilla pack very interesting - glad the frame is removable (I don't require) and the weight + comfort + durability are impressive. I just wish it was in basic black - I prefer to not stand out as much as I possibly can when I travel
Nice video. I have used the froggtoggs stuff quite a bit, and highly recommend it. I was very hard on it and had to do some gorilla tape repairs along the way. But for the money, you can't beat their products. That headlamp looks interesting. Thanks for showing that.
Outdoor Vitals Shadow light 45 L & 60 L backpacks..weighs 30.5 oz (45) &31.5 oz (60) ,cost $212 if your a member..non member $ 239 ..high quality and has "load lifters"..what you call "magic straps" ..and honestly load lifters make a difference even on packs this light
Definitely a good gear list - but I will nitpick a little on requirements for the pack and tent.
People have different needs and will optimize the load out differently. For this wide audience, it isn't only about optimizing cost vs weight.
In my case, I want a pack that is highly water resistant so that I don't have to fuss with a pack cover. A DCF pack is a little higher cost than the pack on this list but I think more water resistant - certainly better than a pack cover. Same with the tent - I want it quick drying among other benefits. And as an older backpacker, weight savings is very important and I will pay a little more for additional weight savings so that I can better enjoy the trail.
The loadout in this clip looks to target a price limit and then picks items that have "good" functionality, including a reasonable weight. This is definitely a good target for beginners or those who may have limited funds.
This really is a fantastic loadout! In the event that no one is able to produce a gear list that meets the qualifications, it would be cool if you published the one or two lists that came the closest, and indicated where they fell short.
That’s a good idea. I’ll consider it based on what gets submitted
I went with Hammock Gear economy burrow top quilt, very nice and reasonably priced, 850fp treated down. They run sales often, and sometimes have quilts in stock that are discounted.
It's really too bad they discontinued the econo :(
@@JustinOutdoors Aahhh! I didn't know they had... I was going to get another quilt set for spring and summer
My military issue Molle 2 pack cost me $25 in mint condition. Try to find a pack in the size range which is better made and super comfortable . Nice video .
Here's my list that I used on the AT:
Backpack: Gossamer gear kumo 36
Tent: Lanshan 1 pro
Pad: Nemo switchback torso lenght (I've cut a few panels and I can fit it in the pocket of the kumo where the sit pad is.
Sleeping bag: the Aegismax sleeping bag
Stove: brs... I mean come on, it's the best for the price
Filter: The platypus quickdraw with the waterbag
Pot: boundless voyage titanium, basically the same as the toaks but a bit cheaper
Headlamp: Nu25 too, but the older model
Rainjacket: frogg toggs too
Great video. I would say the RovyVon A5 mini flashlight beats that headlamp. It weights in at half the weight of the headlamp and has way more features. It’s glow in the dark, USBC, multiple modes, and less expensive. Sorry, but I think I win on this one. I love your videos. Kind regards…. Btw for your readers….I made my own quilt for less than half the price. It made it through two thru hikes. PCT and PNT.
Been watching every video for a few years now. This guy has got to be the most trusted name in backpacking gear reviews. Keep up the good work!
Why do you think any sponsored content creator can be trusted to make unbiased reviews? This whole video is an ad.
@@Andy-MesaHe’s sponsored by the store, not the gear brands. He has an open challenge to provide a better list of gear within the criteria. I believe he has integrity that would prevent him from promoting gear he doesn’t agree with. In prior videos he’s challenged gear claims from company’s selling their items on garage grown gear and he’s had honest reviews and opinions.
@@WGYT321 Cool, it's just a wild coincidence that all of the gear he recommends is available at that store.
@@WGYT321 Cool, and it just so happens everything he recommends is available at that store. What an amazing coincidence.
@@WGYT321 And it just so happens all the gear is available at that store. Amazing coincidence.
Challenge accepted! Only thing I might challenge this list on is the tent, pack and pad.
Pack contenders... granite gear crown 3 60. Lighter and cheaper and magic straps.. at $115. Slight step up might be durston kakwa at $240. New rei flash 50 on sale as well.
Tent... gossamer gear the 1 or durston xmid 1p
Pad, rei helix but wait for the sale....
Love my El Coyote! (I have a 20*) The fabric is softer and less clammy than a lot of its competitors
I just got my custom El Coyote Alphalite 900+ 20° quilt with an extra 2 oz overfill (on top of El Coyote’s standard 30% overfill). The fabric feels AMAZING and it’s so lightweight. I’m used to using a Nemo Disco, which is great, but I wanted more warmth and to shave off a bit more weight.
The EMS anamoly quilts are on sale rn (I got a 30° that was $260 for $125). 850 fill power, ultralight (I think the regular is 20oz) and an zippered foot box for extra ventilation in the summer months.
I felt a little crazy when you said the prices of the sleeping pad and quilt, but I have to assume you're focused on the options available at GGG. It's also been a while since I shopped for gear and prices are going up everywhere.
My REI Helix, while heavier at 26oz, is warmer, more comfortable and cheaper at $119 on sale (for any size btw). I've bought three Hammock Gear Economy Burrow's (looks like they call them the Burrow and Burrow UL now). I don't think I paid more than $200 for any of them since I bought them on sale and they've been amazing.
This is a fun challenge, though, and a great idea for a video. Thanks for making it happen!
Great gear list. I would be interested to see a comparison video with that water filter vs the Sawyer and the BeFree.
Garage Grown Gear in Canada quilts have prices starting at $400, not including shipping….. Crazy. If you’re looking to stay warm at night look into a higher R-value sleeping pad
Something like a big Agnes divide 4 R-Value for $200 CAD
I've been pushing HydroBlu filters for years. The activated charcoal add on is amazing.
Tent: either 3FUL lanshan or Featherstone Backbone 2P trekkingpole tent. Both cheaper and similar stats.
Backpack: I have no experience with your backpack, but I like these cheaper ones: mountainsmith Zerk40, granite gear crown3 60, Mountain Equipment Company Serratus Pace 40L, and mountainsmith scream 55.
Pad: Forclaz MT900 air at 134,99 euros in Europe; no clue for the US. R value listed at 5.4, 675grams, and 195x63
P.s.
When did including links become illegal?
New addition for tents:
Paria Zion 2p; freestanding tent, min. Weight of 1.3 KG and that for only 179 dollars.
Gear lists are very subjective. I find an upgrade to a MSR PocketRocket 2 Deluxe, or a Soto Windmaster is worth it for the ability to handle cooking on a windy day; some people think it doesn't matter because they can engineer a windbreak. Some people could go with a thinlite pad, not me because I will get very poor sleep. Sometimes cheap gear works just fine. Sometimes a person needs an upgrade due to specific needs of one's body or the conditions of the place you are going.
What a great deal and a great kit! It's a very cool discount that you and GGG have put together to get people UL and on the trail. Way to go.
I think it's a great list, but I would swap out the pack for a Flash 55 and the pad for an REI Helix. That would save at least $50, but obviously not available at GGG.
What an awesome challenge! Good luck,, hikers! Nice video. I'm intrigued to see any responses.
Had to get my wife and I quilt with the discount. Too good to pass up. You da man!
Tarptent is a great tent maker, quality, and light weight. I have a Silnylon Tarptent Protrail for simplicity and weight. Fast easy set-up and take down, dries out in five minutes during lunch break.
Another great video! Especially for those just getting into backpacking.
I don’t think anyone is going to beat this list for quality, weight and price.
However, I would go with the Toaks 550ml not the 750ml pot. Saves an ounce and while the lid won’t close tightly with everything inside it closes enough if held in place with a sack or strap.
Another lightweight, inexpensive piece of gear is a Gerber LST Knife. Fixed blade for safety and only .6 ounces.
Tent.lanshan 2 (double wall) or lanshan 2 pro (single wall) are a cheaper and just as good. even more so for lanshan 1 and landahn 1 pro. Many online have tested it and like like it. Paria is very popular for freestanding, but I went with lanshan. different brands mier or 3f ul. Speaking of 3f ul, their packs are cheap and well rated and yours autmoatically loses with no load lifter straps. that is a deal breaker for me. The Yue 45 has a frame their other UL does not. my sleeping bag is the naturehike. works great, cheap and lite. frog toggs is a winner. I also have the toaks, BRS, nitecore so agree with you there...water filter is swayer mini. My total cost is less, but since there are duplicates, not sure if it counts. I like the way you are thinking though!
Does the list need to be for tent camping?
I believe a hammock camping setup would be lighter and cheaper (barely) but same quality or so
Well done and good stuff. Nice job GGG.
I have the El Coyote quilt, and I love it, it's very well built and warm.
Wow! What a beauty, I love those white gas stoves, I have a small collection myself
Nobody can make a better list!
*Gandalf voice* "There are few who can..."
I believe there is a catch in the challenge since there is no absolute metric.
Something could be a little heavier, but more than pay for its weight on quality, comfort and price.
Also, what's the point of being light if it's uncomfortable, more expensive and doesn't last as long?
I really liked your list, so I'd mainly keep it.
My only 2 changes would be:
Backpack: decathlon forclaz 500 air 50+10 L (US$ 140)
sleeping pad: Paria outdoors XL insulated (US$ 100)
The backpack is heavier, but I'd say it is still on the light side, but it adds a lot more in comfort and durability.
This backpack might be one of the most underrated backpacks in the market.
It's also almost US$ 100 cheaper than yours.
For the sleeping pad, it adds 7 ounces. But it's a big one and R-value 4.7. This makes it much more versatile as you can use a higher R-value pad in summer, but can't use a low one in winter.
So specially if we are considering someone trying to save money (which is the part of being cheap), a more versatile kit should be considered as it will also add the economy of not having to buy another item for a different weather.
I believe my kit to be better as it suits me better, is more versatile, adds a lot more comfort, is cheaper, it's as good or better in quality (materials) and the weight penalty isn't big, specially with the weight savings on other itens.
Dump the tent, ground pad, and trekking poles and use a hammock like the (WintMing Hammock with Mosquito Net and Rain Fly Cover 3 in 1 Camping Hammock Tent 440lbs Load). I like the keychain flashlight like the (Keychain Flashlights,EDC Portable Pocket Bright Flashlight High lumens,USB Rechargeable Mini Keychain Flashlight 600 Lumen,for Daily Using,Backpacking,Camping and Hiking(Fluorescent White)” ). I have never been a fan of quilts as they are just half a bag.
While I agree with you in theory (am always recommending hammock tents to people - fantastic idea!) some of us can't sleep in hammocks (for a whole variety of reasons)
But quilts being half bags is what saves weight, plus you don't really utilize the material you're sleeping on because it gets crushed on the bottom in a sleeping bag (you need loft for warmth) js
I HATE every cubic inch and every oz of stuff that I have to lug around. This is especially true if I only need it at night. I try very hard to make all of my stuff serve at least 2 purposes. Other than my cammies and shoes, my gear and clothing total 9 lbs. That's to be able to handle sleeping ok at 34F in wind and rain. The bivy is $95. I fold over and tape the bottom corners of both the bivy and the envelope, creating a mummy configuration. This mod, of course, reduces the heat-loss from my legs. You dont want the regular-sized bivy. It's sized for little asian guys, altho it's bigger than the ridiculously small SOL Escape bivy. Cut-off the rain flaps on the zippers, cause they WILL jam with you inside of the bivy!
In Europe we have Decathlon 😀
-Backpack in the video is 238 euros. I counter with: Decathlon MT900 backpack -> 150 euros - 1.4kg
-Tent in the video is 223 euros. I counter with:
Decathlon MT900 tent ->150 euros - 0.9kg
-Sleeping pad in the video is 149 euros, I counter with:
Decathlon MT500 pad-> 75 euros - R Value of 3.3 - 0.6kg
If you guys have time to compare more Decathlon gear with the list in the video you’ll find the same pattern. And it’s good quality gear. Source: I’m tired of paying for overpriced things and I’ve been backpacking and bikepacking for the better part of my life.
Why is outdoor gear so expensive in the US??
@@linguishlanguageschool it's because it's probably closer to the elven cloaks, woven by Galadriel the Lady of the Wood herself. Hence the crazy prices.
@@northdiver62 😂
Great content and load out! I've been replenishing my backpacking gear lately and just picked up the Gregory Focal 58, MH Strato UL2 tent, ant Nemo Riff 15 sleeping bag, all of which are great alternatives to your choices and are currently on sale.
LOADOUT: Weight: 8.6 - 9.6lbs, Cost: $775 - $976 without discounts.
My top choice on left, alternatives follow.
Six Moon Skyscape Scout - 40oz - $160 - OR - Six Moon Lunar Solo - 26oz - $260 - OR - Durston 1P - 28oz - $240
Six Moon Minimalist V2 - 41oz - $260
Exped Ultra 3R MW - 19oz - $150
Marmot Nanowave 35F - 27oz - $100
Petzl Tikkina - 3oz - $25
Aquatabs - 0.1oz - $15 - OR - Sawyer Mini - $25
2x Pop Bottles - Free - OR - Platypus 2L Bottle - 1.5oz - $15
Coghlans Emergency Stove +Fuel Tabs (ie Esbit-like) - 6oz - $6
Toaks 750 Pot - 3.6oz - $35
Frogg Toggs Suit - 13oz - $42 - OR - Marmot Precip - 11oz - $100
I believe my list comes in cheaper and slightly lighter, without loss of quality and includes stove fuel. The Six Moon Scout is a great 1P budget starter thats been around for a while.
I run a similar setup to above, just with a tarp and a cheaper frameless 30L bag for my weekend/multi-day hiking, but that wasn't in the spirit of this video. I have a bigger Zpacks myself, but Six Moon Minimalist V2 would be my pick if I had to buy a Framed 50L+ right now. I have the BRS3000, its cool but I prefer fuel tabs + folding emergency stove (works out lighter and cheaper), nothing to break, know how much you have left, turn it on side as windscreen/stand and use twigs in a pinch. The Frogg Toggs suit is good but delicate, I prefer the Marmot Precip Jacket (or North Face equiv) for about $100. I think it's a better investment on the rainy east coast. Buy a size too big and get that bellows going to help vent heat/moisture.
Obviously wouldn't meet the requirements of the challenge by having links to buy everything, but all these things you can get SOOO much cheaper by buying used. Backpackers are notorious for always looking for that next new piece of gear, which means the old stuff is always popping up online for resale. There's a gossamer gear gorilla pack on my local FB marketplace for $120 right now.
Obviously, it's harder and has some drawbacks. You don't want to commit to buying until you've seen the gear first and verified it isn't falling apart, and buying local is gonna be so much easier and cheaper (and less likely to encounter scammers) than paying for shipping. But it means you'll have to be patient if you want specific gear, especially if you live in an area with fewer trails (I'm in Texas, which...isn't great).
But for anyone intimidated by the massive price tag even on the "cheapest" quality gear, know that you can pretty easily cut that price tag in half by shopping around on local resale sites.
Cheaper for less: The Tomshoo and Lixada 750ml titanium pots off Ali are actually identical (to the Toaks pot), most likely same factory, and costs 15-16 ish with shipping.
"Better" is totally subjective but this is the loadout I would buy based on my research and what I think would work for me.
OV Shadowlight 45 $235 30.5oz
Paria Recharge XL $100 26oz
Paria Thermodown 15 Quilt $180 35oz
Lanshan 1p tent $139 27oz
Toaks 750 $26 3.6oz
BRS Stove $16 1.6oz
Katadyn BeFree 3l $60 6.8oz
Black Diamond Cosmo 350 $35 2.8oz
Frogg Togg UL2 Jacket$25 5.5oz
$816 and about 8.7lbs
Trekking poles should also be listed in the cost of your loadout because the are necessary for the tent setup. I left them off my list to keep it the same.
Another great option for a lightweight, high quality pack at a fantastic price point is the Granite Gear Crown 60. It's 60 liters instead of 50 and weighs 2 ounces more than the 50l Goss Gear
Finding something this nice for less is much different than finding something for less but still works
Hey Stephen!
I’ve worked as a backcountry guide up in Ontario for quite a few years now and I think I might have a list that can beat your own;) I’d love to make a video on my loadout but I’m curious what the timeline for this challenge is.
Great vid btw:)
AMEN the Mariposa layout and everything else is unmatched - I just grew out of it. I will give you the one to review. The GG frameless G4-20...very similar. Always start at Gossamer Gear thru GGG. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Thule Alltrail 55L - My all-time favorite backpack for medium sized loads.
DD Hammocks - DD Tarp 3.5 x 3.5 MC - Waterproof Camouflage Camping Tarp For Lightweight Hammock Camping And Bushcraft Shelters
is there any decathlon gear worth mentioning? is the MT100 jacket is the only item with a good value for money?
I'm hesitating in answering this video with all Decathlon gear. They're about a third of the price. Actually hold my beer imma do it
Liteway Biggie or elementum line is interesting. I'd like to see you review these 👍
Looks like a good kit. You could consider the REI 55 backpack, Nemo hornet 2P, Paria 20 degree quilt, MSR pocket rocket 2 or Soto wind master, REI helix sleep pad which is 4R, Soto Pot, paria water bag and filter combination.
What pack would you suggest for someone 6'2" with a long torso? I need a new pack, all I have is really heavy freighters. I used to get my gear under 30lbs for hunting season, but I don't hunt anymore, and I often hammock camp, so I think I can do with a really ultralight bag. But I would like to have a lot of volume so I am not feeling like I am always cramming everything in there.
What is this black jacket you have at 1:48? I've seen it in a few of your videos, and I feel like you've talked about it before, but I can't find any reference to it.
Does the garagegrowngear deliver internationaly? I wanted to buy a threaded water filter but here in Brazil i cant see to find any reputable brands.
For a budget pack, I'd use the GG Kumo 36 Fastpack instead. You lose some internal room and the frame, but moving a lot of the load to the front of the running-vest style straps really helps with how heavy the load feels. The Durston 1P for a whole $1 more feels like a lot better choice to me, mostly due to the ease of pitching. If someone is buying their first ultralight kit, the gear being easy to use is essential.
Swap the Quilt for a Cumulus Quilt 350, it has a limit rating of 25 and a comfort rating of 35, so it should compare reasonably to the El Coyote 30 degree quilt. You sacrifice 4 ounces of weight, but save $50 (assuming regular length and width for both quilts)
I have the Stratospire Li 2 person - it is an absolutely magnificent tent.
Got the Gossamer gear bag last year and... it fucked up my back. Turns out if you do long days (I was doing 50km days), and have a particularly sweaty back, then it just rubs me up the wrong way (pun intended). So as well as prioritising equipment that is cheap/light make sure that your equipment suits your individual needs. I'm much happier hiking with a Gregory Optic with the gap between the back and the pack, even if it does weigh a few extra pounds/grams.
Switching to a hammock saves over 2 lbs, packs smaller and lets me sleep like a baby.
Gg fast kumo $169
Hummingbird single hammock $74 148g
Hummingbird straps $45 44g
Dutchware Falcon tarp $273 155g
Alpha 30 quilt $265
Gg thinlite $20 76g
Brs 3000 $18
Toaks 750 $22
Sawyer mini $20
Smart water x2 $4
Nitecore tiki $20 11g
Frogg toggs $27
Best lightweight budget gear load out
*Granit gear crown 2 60L 35.2oz $200
*Featherstone backbone 1p 22oz $180
*Outdoor Vitals Ultralight Insulated Sleeping Pad $70 16oz & 4 R value
*Featherstone moon dance quilt 23oz $220
*LIXADA Camping Cup Pot,750ml Stainless Steel 7oz $15
*Potable Aqua Iodine Tablets 1oz $10
*Foxelli LED Headlamp Rechargeable 2.4oz $18
*Rain rider ultra light rain coat and pants 10oz $20
All better quality and cheaper at full price and a lot you can get on sale only backpack with extra 10 liter and pot is heavier
My list includes:
Montane trailblazer 44l
Durston x-mid
Outdoor vitals stormloft 30° long
REI Helix
Brs 3000t
Toaks 650ml
Frogg toggs ul
Trekology 2.0 pillow
Sawyer squeeze and 2 smartwater bottles
The total price came out to be about 975$ and the weight 3,93kg=8lb 10oz
my set-up is cheaper and more lightweight... [for example my single layer/person tent fits in the leg pocket of my cargo pants... it's frameless, and I make 4 pegs on the spot using sticks... in my other pocket I carry a poncho, that can double as a second layer over my tent...] I already have my carefully selected set... so I don't need a second as a gift... why would I share it with ''the world?''...
I will just say one thing and that's all... DON'T PAY FOR ''BRANDS''... I shop from cheap Chinese knock-offs... but I'm very selective... if you want cheap, you must cheat!... because cheap is cheat... or you get to be cheated... or better yet...'' branded''... lol
I'm all about ''shopping local''.... and it doesn't get more ''local'' than my pocket...my own wallet!
Great content ! 🙌
Is there a difference in space between a backpacking tent and a regular heavy tent? I’ve only owned a backpacking and I have a 2 person for me because it feels nicer to have some room. So does a 2 person heavy tent have the same room for me to put another in and have space or would I have to get a 3-4 person tent?
In general, tents of the same design and "person size" all run roughly the same regardless of their weight, so while there's some variance from tent to tent you're usually not going to get a significantly larger tent unless you go from something like a 3-6 pound 2 person backpacking tent to a 15-20 pound 2 person cabin tent. Tunnel tents often run a little larger than average, though, and while they might be heavier than a typical dome style tent of the same materials it's usually nothing approaching the weight of a cabin tent you'd have to pull down the trail in a wagon.
Basically, if you want a tent that will fit two people with any breathing room at all, you're going to have to buy a 3 person tent. To actually be comfortable you're going to want a 4 person, but if you split the weight it's not so bad.
That's a bold challenge Steven. Find a better, cheaper, lighter load out. Challenge ...not accepted! lol I think you did a fantastic job with your load out!
Does someone in the comments have a good recommendation on a new backpack? Im not into extreme ultralight hiking. But im starting to slowly upgrade my gear so I would like something in between and not to expensive. Also I like it minimal. Not too many rings and bells. ✌️ thanks (Im hiking the PCT this year)
I like the 3FUL backpack, it's super cheap and ultralight
Ive a problem! Its severe difficult to find a sleep system, and tent that i can afford and fits my body ( 191cm; 6 foot 25) with Hulk Hogan shoulders!
Yes i can have a supplement weekend job
But then no weekend hikes
So i switch to a Dutch M65 modular sleep system, incl goretex heavy duty bivy, a savotta PDF sleeppad and a Berghaus crusader II backpack
Yes i have a weightlifter body
I do 2 dayhikes a week ( 8 & 20 Km, whats that in miles? Have to calculate it)
3 times a week jazz dance!
( Balance, mobility & flex, incl planks, push ups squats and core, dudes dont forget your backmussles and feet/ ankle exerzizes
Who have extreme strong feet/ankles!? Ballerina's
Is it an idiot idea to do those exercises!?
It doesnt turn you gay or trans!
And if so, no problem! I live on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean!
Maybe i sell you my baby brother his pleaser high heels in size 16!
For the girls,
Loved the video. Thank youi always cheer up when I see a new video from you!
The list rocks.
Ok, here's your list:
Backpack: granite gear crown 3 60 technically costs less because ggg states they dont do discounts on gossamer gear products so his price is inaccurate. My bag also has more capacity and features for only an additional 6oz.
Tent: paria bryce 1p (trail weight of 2lbs 15 oz, but since you left out the trekking poles required for yours and they typically weigh 1lb and cost well over $100, that makes this freestanding tent both lighter and vastly cheaper than yours.)
Pad: klymit static v2
Quilt: enlightened equipment enigma apex 40 (not quite as warm as his but very high quality and can manage moisture better.)
Stove: the brs is great for canister fuel, but the pill bottle stove ends up being lighter and cheaper due to the acohol fuel.
Pot: toaks 550. Totally big enough and even lighter.
Water filter: same as your selection for conventional filter, but aquamira tabs are even lighter.
Bladder: smart water bottle
Light: duracell headlamp is cheaper but the rovyvon a8 is the ultimate for weight savings.
Rain coat/suit: frogg toggs are a good option here due to cost and weight, but an ultralight umbrella like the gossamer gear lighttrek is even better thanks to the breathability.
I would add links to this, but i already added links to my gear choices in one comment and its now gone, so idk if youtube got rid of it or if he just didnt like that i answered his dare.
Not a bad list but you've got some big trade-offs (using aquatabs instead of filtering means you've got to wait longer to drink water). Also alcohol stoves are less flexible (banned in many places).
@@spicy_mintthats why I gave options for those. It seems like he might prioritize weight over everything so I wanted some lighter options, but i agree that a conventional stove and water filter are better for most people. His criteria is very subjective...
u know paria also makes a trekking pole tent that's like 60 bucks cheaper than the tarp tent. and i think it's about the same weight.
Still waiting on my free stuff... Surely he wouldn't lie for views...
@mylifeoutdoors are you not gonna live up to your word? That's pretty dishonest of you. I did what you asked. Should I contact a lawyer about this? You made a promise and I fulfilled it. You can't set out a challenge with a prize and then refuse to follow through with it.
Full backpacking gear list on Amazon for under 1000 and will last over 2000 miles
Clothes
Darn tough socks - 21.95
Mier running shorts- $21.99
Willit sun hoodie- $23.99
32 Degree base layer tights-$12.99
32 Degree base layer crew top-$12.99
Outdoor Ventures puffer jacket- $59.99
Frog Toggs-$19.90
Cook system/ bear hang
Sawyer mini-$22.40
Tito titanium long spork-$7.99
Toaks 750ml pot-26.24
BRS stove-$16.95
Selkirk Design Ultralight Food Bag Hanging System-$32.95
Sleep/shelter
Featherstone backbone 1p-$159.99
Featherstone moon dance quilt-$229.99
SleepNgo air pad - $25.99
Cascade aluminum trekking poles-$24.86
Electronics
Foxelli rechargeable headlamp-$14.97
Anker 10,000 Mah power bank -$16.19
Trowel
Coghlans Trowel-$2.99
Total cost $999.06
All at great weight cost and durability
227 usd (cheap?!) for 50gbp you can get a 55 litre bag that will equally fill the requirements
Cheers interesting vid! I've seen the stratosphere fail in not very high winds tho 😉
Here is my list. All high-quality gear, for less. No discount codes. No repeats from your list.
Pack: Granite Gear Virga3 55L: $200
Tent: Tarp Tent Protrail: $239
Pad: Klymit Static V2: $75
Quilt: Warbonnet 30 long wide: $252
Stove: Zelphs Fancee Feest: $17
Pot: Imusa .7 qt: $7 (make own lid or buy one at dutchware for $8)
Water Filter: Platypus quick draw w/ 1liter bag: $42
Optional additional waterbag: Evernew 2000ml: $15
Light source: Olight 15R EOS 350: $36
Rain jacket: Warbonnet Stash Jacket: $100
Total cost: $968 - $991
Weight: Around 105oz
I can’t get the discount code to work, and also am wondering about the 2 person version of the tent, and the tall/wide versions of the quilt and sleeping pad, will the code work for those (if it works at all?) - thanks for all your work, I enjoy your videos and trust your advice.
The code should be back on now. Let me know if it’s not. I think the code is only for the 1person tent. But the tall/wide should still be included
Really surprised the my tent, cook kit, and headlamp are on this list. My Kakwa 40 may have been cheaper than this backpack.
Insane how expensive ultra light backpacking is
I’m interested in high quality but affordable lists even if they aren’t ultralight
Does the tarptent stratospire 1 need to be seam sealed or does it come sealed from Garage Grown Gear
You could also layer another summer inflatable sleeping pad on top of you really wanted to in colder conditions.
Thats easy. I will send u a list this week.
This guys a great salesman
For your water system you have versa filter $22.95 and 2.0 oz plus CNoc vecto bag 2.8oz $23.95 total is $46.90 and 4.8oz
A BeFree filter and bag is $44.95 and 2.3oz both lighter and cheaper and no sale needed.
I have a nitecore NU33 and gave a HA11 to my gf. I think the HA11 would fit even better in this list, it has the same cord strap and uses a single AA battery, its also much cheaper
Mountain Warehouse Inca 90L backpack £99 (Though I got mine cheaper) Best backpack I've owned. Its also the best looking.
NatureHike Cloud Peak 2-3 Person £169, (though I got mine on sale) For the price this Tent is ahead of it self, its so easy to pack and put up, someone said to me its basically a pop up Tent, two doors, extraordinary useful and roomy.
My stove from Go Outdoors £15, more expensive but it has 3 legs and a tube making life much easier, and compacts down inside a tiny box, infinetly useful
And admittedly I don't own proper versions of the rest, but those 3 I've mentioned all looked way better in most aspects that's what you showed for wayy more money.
Thanks for this great video! I have been looking at tents that use trekking poles for support, but as a short person, I use poles that are only 110cm tall and that is not tall enough for the StratoSpire tent. Is there a lightweight alternative to use in pitching the tent? Or something I can use to adapt my poles?
Look into the Durston adjustable carbon fiber poles. I don’t carry trekking poles so I take those anytime I have a tent that needs some