Metamorphosis Should've Been EVEN MORE Depressing

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Komentáře • 820

  • @zy_gote
    @zy_gote Před 2 lety +4045

    I can't believe they got THE man himself

    • @lakamokolaka
      @lakamokolaka Před 2 lety +118

      Well Joey did interview him before on his channel a few years ago so it isn't surprising he managed to contact him again

    • @theskullboy8700
      @theskullboy8700 Před 2 lety +14

      The notorious M

    • @JukiCombo
      @JukiCombo Před 2 lety +4

      The legend

    • @zyuunii3479
      @zyuunii3479 Před rokem +29

      the fact that he can speak fluent english was so much wins too

    • @wi0.24se
      @wi0.24se Před rokem +7

      @@zyuunii3479 because he's born in the us duh...

  • @bigalmou2261
    @bigalmou2261 Před 2 lety +4426

    I like how down to earth, almost 9-to-5 he sounds. Like people saying Metamorphosis was the craziest ero they've seen, but for him it was tuesday lol

    • @monoq_
      @monoq_ Před 2 lety +101

      true. I don't expect how simple he is.

    • @solsticeequinox8688
      @solsticeequinox8688 Před 2 lety +179

      I mean the world is full of stories like his, some are even crazier. As we don’t see it a lot in daily basis or daily news, we see it a new experience.

    • @rockydeleon5746
      @rockydeleon5746 Před 2 lety +188

      It's honestly the kindest and most down to earth people who write the most f'd up things. Asanagi and Junji ito are good examples.

    • @naniwo4438
      @naniwo4438 Před 2 lety +11

      @@rockydeleon5746 is there like an asanagi interview?

    • @elio6361
      @elio6361 Před 2 lety +12

      What does 9-to-5 mean ?

  • @lakamokolaka
    @lakamokolaka Před 2 lety +2414

    We can show a girl's life getting destroyed and outright being murdered but we aren't allowed to show a syringe.
    Censorship in japan is so werid

    • @kyotra
      @kyotra Před 2 lety +247

      Drugs are bad kids, m'kay.

    • @mardshima2070
      @mardshima2070 Před 2 lety

      Afaik it was the crack that got censored, I've seen many eromanga with syringe.

    • @IIAndersII
      @IIAndersII Před 2 lety +5

      @@kyotra hahaha

    • @sanny8716
      @sanny8716 Před 2 lety +196

      That's like everywhere though, once you start thinking about it
      A hero in a movie can murder dozens of bad guys, but god forbid there's a visible female nipple

    • @lakamokolaka
      @lakamokolaka Před 2 lety +88

      @@sanny8716 Yeah true but it's even stranger in japan because it showed her getting assautled by her own dad but the drugs were too far?

  • @lonewolf9578
    @lonewolf9578 Před 2 lety +5094

    Let’s all agree, the JoJo ending is canon

    • @Jpow5734
      @Jpow5734 Před 2 lety +539

      What do you mean? that’s the ONLY ending.

    • @A.W000
      @A.W000 Před 2 lety +86

      🤝

    • @floatingduck6232
      @floatingduck6232 Před 2 lety +189

      There's other endings?

    • @TATACAW69
      @TATACAW69 Před 2 lety +142

      Bro that's the only ending which exists

    • @28kingofkings
      @28kingofkings Před 2 lety +126

      wasn't there a rumor that the author himself approves of the JoJo ending?

  • @pentagon1208
    @pentagon1208 Před 2 lety +1168

    Metamorphosis just raised the bar for the “wrong route” type of choose in video game. Plus it is literal representation of how these choices could destroy the life of a person.

    • @tenyearsinthejoint1
      @tenyearsinthejoint1 Před rokem +49

      Its a concept that would never fly in a film/series. Thats why i like it...youre supposed to feel awful after reading it. Its extreme and disgusting much like the world we live in. Id say it was very effective in doing what it wanted to convey

    • @owenc.q8514
      @owenc.q8514 Před rokem +9

      ​@@tenyearsinthejoint1 like Oyasumi pun pun

    • @suicidalbomber8048
      @suicidalbomber8048 Před 8 měsíci +2

      ​@@tenyearsinthejoint1You should watch more films and series because there is definitely much more risque and gutwreching stuff in them than Metamorphosis. Start with the film Salo.

    • @HelloOnepiece
      @HelloOnepiece Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@suicidalbomber8048 Yeah I have to agree, the more corect way would be that this is a concept that would never fly in mainstream cinema, especially since the 2000s . (80s were wild)

    • @Kattlarv
      @Kattlarv Před 6 měsíci

      Not really. You're still ONLY allowed to do the socially acceptable "wrong".
      They could NEVER allow a genderbent version of this.

  • @silis_pap8473
    @silis_pap8473 Před 2 lety +2244

    Dude after reading Metamorphosis I had to binge a whole season of Kaguya-Sama in order to cleanse my soul lol

    • @cydthemanic
      @cydthemanic Před 2 lety +185

      Bro, I had to indulge myself in Slice of Life anime for nearly a week in order to forget it and even then the memories of the reading experience still haunt me to this day....

    • @isthatbraised
      @isthatbraised Před 2 lety +82

      I actually kind of enjoyed it, not because I'm into the tags tho. But it's because it's a well written dark story, those back then were pretty uncommon
      Edit, I did however have one which required to surf myanime for the most wholesome story yet(fuck those ntr who bait using wholesome shit, went into it blind and I almost took a shit because I was so pissed)

    • @IrvinMenezes
      @IrvinMenezes Před 2 lety +23

      @@isthatbraised I agree, like I enjoyed the manga as a story but not as an experience. The fact that it broke me that much says how masterful it is

    • @diavolojaegar
      @diavolojaegar Před 2 lety +7

      Ironically, I read dungeon seeker(cool by the way) and redo of the healer after which was a fucking adventure for my mind. Thankfully i have read berserk if not i would have been mentally deranged

    • @corryjamieson3909
      @corryjamieson3909 Před 2 lety +4

      @@diavolojaegar I recommend 21 jump street to soften the pain.

  • @billy1998vn
    @billy1998vn Před 2 lety +2002

    What a humble dude, dismissing that the story had any deeper meaning and saying it was only for entertainment purposes. I believe the author of Monster had also said the exact same thing about his works as well.

    • @marcodragneel8035
      @marcodragneel8035 Před 2 lety +178

      Art is subjective, we all heard of that. So its up to us to give it meaning in our own perception. The author's intent is that, but that doesn't mean we can't give our own take on what has been presented to us. Such a bittersweet ending to a depressing,sad, yet eye opening story. Just hope people will see the beauty of the story itself and not just slander it for the more profane things shown

    • @isthatbraised
      @isthatbraised Před 2 lety +228

      @@marcodragneel8035 And to me, Josuke and Okuyasu appearing and saving the girl is canon

    • @Elfengarde.
      @Elfengarde. Před 2 lety +23

      But In joey channel he said it have a meaning...., And now it didn't? This guy is totally crack in the head, and btw this guy said something like "i want to inform people,and make them realize" something like that,but it's kinda funny this come from a person who make a story about Chicken rape a girls....

    • @dinliner08
      @dinliner08 Před 2 lety +2

      @@isthatbraised i agree

    • @iPervy
      @iPervy Před 2 lety +13

      Mmm monster. No joke one of the best animes out there. Dub may even be better than the sub (or atleast more fitting due to the setting).

  • @chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266

    *Reads title*
    Thanos: "Impossible."

    • @nitroexsplosion
      @nitroexsplosion Před 11 měsíci +1

      MCU Thanos taking pity on Saki and coming to her rescue

  • @usmansubhani7482
    @usmansubhani7482 Před 2 lety +2490

    I refuse to believe this. I’m sure the canon ending is with Crazy Diamond healing her.
    YOU CAN’T MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE!!!

  • @MissPoplarLeaf
    @MissPoplarLeaf Před 2 lety +527

    When I first watched the Trash Taste ep where they talked about Metamorphosis, my friends and I found it funny that Connor thought it was unrealistic for the mom to blame her daughter for what happened. He's too innocent for this world. Also clearly he has a fairly healthy relationship with his parents. So it's cool to see him admitting he was mistaken about that lol

    • @kagura7107
      @kagura7107 Před rokem +40

      Connor has clearly been fed the silver spoon. I always knew him as someone trying to be humble to justify being weird. That's one way to live a life I suppose.

    • @flyingorange2482
      @flyingorange2482 Před rokem +2

      Can you tive the timestamp when he said that?

    • @strawberrymins
      @strawberrymins Před 10 měsíci +6

      So true unfortunately yes, my own mother had that happened to her, and I’ve heard it from all my female friends who had gone through something like that it happens so often it’s honestly heartbreaking.

    • @DominantBtch
      @DominantBtch Před 8 měsíci +7

      ​@@kagura7107yall people just love naking shit to put down others huh

    • @lixon30fps
      @lixon30fps Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@kagura7107 why making sound like its bad to be silver spooned?

  • @hypergiantstar1834
    @hypergiantstar1834 Před 2 lety +1194

    I was wondering why y’all were talking about Saki “dying”. I didn’t know Saki ACTUALLY *DIED* in the fucking bathroom. I guess cuz I hard coped with the “future” her panels that I saw years ago on the first readthrough, cuz i didn’t see the very last panel. All these years I thought she had the kid and grew up. I just went back, and checked the last page, and saw that she was indeed, actually just dying/dead in the bathroom.. while the future her& her kid was actually just the drug induced dream….
    ishould have stuck with the head canon ending I had years ago.

    • @penny9107
      @penny9107 Před 2 lety +96

      WHAT. SO IT WAS A DREAM/HALLUCINATIONS????? I...THIS WHOLE TIME I THOUGHT,,,, THAT WAS REAL......

    • @ghekor
      @ghekor Před 2 lety +176

      @@penny9107 Yes she ODs on hard drugs and as she's laying there dying her mind goes into full illusion/delusion mode like a final coping mechanism before death...

    • @penny9107
      @penny9107 Před 2 lety +36

      @@ghekor damn... Okei now im sad.... And kinda depressed

    • @ghekor
      @ghekor Před 2 lety +136

      @@penny9107 this is why someone drew 2 of the guys from JoJo appearing out of nowhere and saving her life and she ends up eventually fixing herself and living a happier life xd

    • @Fenek591
      @Fenek591 Před 2 lety

      Guys... Same...

  • @mitacestalia7532
    @mitacestalia7532 Před 2 lety +881

    Honestly, there are more fucked up hentai out there, but Metamorphosis hold higher value simply because it shows touch of realism. What happen with Saki surprisingly happen in real life, maybe not common but it's out there.
    I mean, when you finish reading fucked up disgusting hentai your reaction probably be like, "Oh okay" then you continue living your life. You know that shit won't happen in real life. When I finish reading Metarmophosis, I cried at the ending and felt depressed for 3 days.

    • @silver_stone6510
      @silver_stone6510 Před 2 lety +130

      Tbh
      It didn't feel like a hentai when I first read it
      It felt like I was reading an actual publicized manga with a fucked up train wreck of a character's life that get progressively worse and worse every page
      Its also a kind of a good case study of what drug addiction can affect your life

    • @ahsank.
      @ahsank. Před 2 lety +15

      Likewise it has stayed with me, I just cannot get rid of it. It was so depressing.

    • @jonglopez5400
      @jonglopez5400 Před 2 lety +12

      Infortunately, t*rture and snu*f does happen also in reality. But I guess the concrete or raw info/material to make a compelling story about these were pretty much hard to find specially through normal methods.

    • @felyndiira
      @felyndiira Před 2 lety +32

      It's not just that it happens in real life. A lot of the stuff depicted in more fucked up hentai happens somewhere in the world, too. Metamorphosis's claim to fame, though, is that it ernestly makes us emphasize with Saki. It focuses more on her development and slow spiral downward than the s**, which makes it feel more real than many other mangas with drugs and messed up parents.
      An example I like to use is Eisei no Zen. The premise of that manga is entirely unrealistic - it's about an immortal woman being tortured by an emperor who wants to unlock the secrets of immortality, and the karma exacted as a consequence. Obviously fantastical, but it's portrayed in such a philosophical way that you can't help but relate it to real life.

    • @bebopobama4686
      @bebopobama4686 Před 2 lety +28

      The part that fucked with me the most was the mother blaming her for “seducing” the father. I’ve heard of that happening irl way too much, it’s depressing.

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale Před 2 lety +553

    I remember a transfer student in college was Japanese and he was so eager for us to show him around NYC. We all had to temper his expectations because this city is a shithole that tourists will only like if they're visiting for like a week once every 5 years. He loved Central Park but when we walked in any place that wasn't Midtown he was just like "this place reeks of garbage"

    • @yammoto148
      @yammoto148 Před 2 lety +30

      I mean a lot of cities smell that way or pee. They are not known for being clean.

    • @animetoonshd3889
      @animetoonshd3889 Před 2 lety +20

      @@yammoto148 well except for where he was from ofc. If he even came from the city

    • @yammoto148
      @yammoto148 Před 2 lety +7

      @@animetoonshd3889 Well I do hear that Japan does clean up more often so who knows.

    • @GDIGhostStalker
      @GDIGhostStalker Před 2 lety +4

      So in NYC, we do leave our garbage out in bags on the street instead of inside of in containers, so yes, if it was the middle of summer, it would reek of garbage. Doubly so if you were in a place with a lot of restaurants and fish markets like Chinatown.
      That being said, I do love living here and have all my life. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t see myself living anywhere else (any place I’d move would need to have a comparable mass transit system since I don’t drive at all, and that narrows my options quite a bit, especially in the US).

    • @ApexGale
      @ApexGale Před 2 lety +6

      @@GDIGhostStalker The convenience is nice but I'm not a fan of the trash and dirty air, the large amounts of homeless and/or insane people in public (thanks, healthcare system), the rising level of crime recently, and the high cost of living.
      Owning a home in NYC is virtually impossible if your household isn't making 6 figures a year, too. So you will have to rent your whole life

  • @ArtyI
    @ArtyI Před 2 lety +325

    I’m surprised that he didn’t intend for Metamorphosis to send a message, because for me it sent the message of how easy it is to fall. The girl went from normal life to destitute in less than a year just because of a few bad choices. It helped me think about my job in pharmacy, about just how many people get suboxone, which is a drug that helps with opioid withdrawal, and about how any of them could have just made that one bad choice that sent them down the wrong path. It’s scuffed because it’s realistic.

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 Před 2 lety +46

      More than not having a message, it doesnt have a moral message at the end, sure, but it just shows a facade of humanity. There is little to nothing that Saki couldve done different, it just happened. She wanted to try something new and it sent her down a spiral with no one to go to.

    • @liamerasmus8592
      @liamerasmus8592 Před 2 lety +20

      I mean...it's an ero-manga. So...at the end of the day. He made it for people to get off to it. I don’t think he makes stuff to make a statement. I think he just says "How fucked up can I go?" Lmfao

    • @Reletr
      @Reletr Před rokem +20

      @@liamerasmus8592 That's the beautiful thing with art though, the reader/viewer can extrapolate meaning out of art as it relates to themselves, without any intention from the creator, even if it's hentai.

    • @keps_ksk
      @keps_ksk Před rokem +20

      Any story will have a message IMO. Even if the writer never intended to make one by creating a story they will inevitably give a message of some kind-whether it'll be "good will triumph over evil", or "love is good". I guess for this story was that life's absolutely fucked and this could happen to someone in real life

    • @TheMockingjay74
      @TheMockingjay74 Před rokem +1

      I know plenty of fucked up erotica that has some realistic themes and it makes it seem like... is it possible to do these things irl

  • @HolligaMan
    @HolligaMan Před 2 lety +259

    Jojo ending for me is like a band aid over outrageous gash wound in my soul. But im still glad it exists.

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 Před 2 lety +391

    Remember kids there even more f-ed up doujins than Metamorphosis :)

    • @shingosshojiopoulos6608
      @shingosshojiopoulos6608 Před 2 lety +72

      *cough* euphoria *cough*

    • @skelebro9999
      @skelebro9999 Před 2 lety +46

      @@shingosshojiopoulos6608 *couth* eroguro vol 2 *cough*

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před 2 lety +36

      Euphoria isn't that bad either comparatively to some stuff out there.

    • @twilight625
      @twilight625 Před 2 lety +175

      there really aren't the other stuff is literally just guro for pure shock factor, the only reason metamorphosis is one of the most f-ed up doujins is because the character spirals in a more realistic fashion than just getting sh*t on or having their heads cut off

    • @user-fg3dz5kv7q
      @user-fg3dz5kv7q Před 2 lety +13

      @@twilight625 Exactly

  • @praaathaaamesh
    @praaathaaamesh Před 2 lety +352

    I cant forgive my brother for introducing me to this manga.

    • @nepstruesom5100
      @nepstruesom5100 Před 2 lety +31

      Bro 💀

    • @lonewolf9578
      @lonewolf9578 Před 2 lety +76

      I can’t forgive my friends for tricking me into watching Boku No Pico

    • @hopeatlast9617
      @hopeatlast9617 Před 2 lety

      @@lonewolf9578 Me 5 years ago : OH MY GOD, THAT'S NOT GOOD!
      Me now : ...I've seen so much worse that I do not even feel anything about these little boys except for "Heh, I prefer Milfs anyway"

    • @nepstruesom5100
      @nepstruesom5100 Před 2 lety +27

      @@lonewolf9578 that's a treat fym

    • @connor48880
      @connor48880 Před 2 lety +4

      What about Eiken?

  • @johnfrancisterne1072
    @johnfrancisterne1072 Před 2 lety +121

    Gotta hand it to ShindoL. His doujins may be depressing, outrageous, and at times, disgusting for some people, we can all agree that his art style is pretty fire

  • @gajspalt
    @gajspalt Před 2 lety +145

    I read through Metamorphosis, stopped 1/3 of the way through before finishing it completely.
    What makes it most disturbing and depressing, is that it's grounded in reality.
    The things that happen in it, can and probably have happened to people in real life, which makes it even more depressing.

    • @Acrylescent
      @Acrylescent Před 8 měsíci +3

      That's also what fucked me up with it. Usually you have some very outrageous element to the manga that allows that full disconnect from reality, but Meta was a story you hear pretty often of young impressionable girls being manipulated by predators and wind up addicted to drugs and reliant on the abusers. While this one was a very hard read for me, it is kind of a warning call.

    • @sultanprawiro3069
      @sultanprawiro3069 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I read it when I was in middle school and after finishing it was just "that's scary but okay".
      But yesterday I read again and I really couldn't continue after her mother accused her of seducing her father

    • @godspeed_smc401
      @godspeed_smc401 Před 3 měsíci

      I can't even find it lol

  • @Kiradeit
    @Kiradeit Před 2 lety +98

    So that's why metamorphosis didn't hit me that much because I thought she was alive and happy with her daughter in the end but when I found out that it was a delusion after all and she dies holy shit it just hit me like a fucking truck

  • @autumntrash3029
    @autumntrash3029 Před rokem +35

    Saki's downward spiral was a really sad read for me, I found myself unintentionally skipping a few pages everytime I knew something bad was gonna happen to her. Watching her get abandoned and taken advantaged of by the world made me think of how fortunate I am that I can live my life peacefully. AND THIS IS A HENTAI???

  • @Enterperse
    @Enterperse Před rokem +53

    I finished reading this a few days ago and can't stop thinking about the ending. Porn is not supposed to be like this. I wasn't even focusing on the spicy bits. The pure depression and bad feels about this work is something special. I feel touched. Something about this hits too close to reality. Hats off to the artist for creating this mess of awfulness.

    • @shinobifrog5519
      @shinobifrog5519 Před rokem +1

      ​@@alias4795 pretty easy to understand what the op meant

  • @midiagain828
    @midiagain828 Před 2 lety +50

    Metamorphosis Director's Cut - Now with 30% more drugs

  • @ea_naseer
    @ea_naseer Před 2 lety +402

    Hold on so the part where the mom blames the daughter happens in real life... when I read the manga I thought that part was pure bullshit... damn...
    Edit: wait she actually died? What about the mom at the end telling her kid she just remembered something bad... shit.

    • @rinylvinyl
      @rinylvinyl Před 2 lety +130

      Welcome to Earth.

    • @acctrsh
      @acctrsh Před 2 lety +174

      Most likely a case of having a last moment of clarity and her her life flash before her and wishing things could have been different.

    • @licklack6763
      @licklack6763 Před 2 lety +162

      There are some moms who see their daughters as competition depending on the circumstance

    • @adrichiii839
      @adrichiii839 Před 2 lety +167

      Yes, sadly there are some “moms” that would rather believe their husbands, boyfriends or male relatives than their own children. It’s a sad reality.

    • @rinylvinyl
      @rinylvinyl Před 2 lety +69

      Should we tell him about instances where the mother not only a blames them for it, but actually takes part in their abuse? Too soon?

  • @whoppermelt
    @whoppermelt Před 8 měsíci +8

    The saddest part to me is that Saki never got to be happy. Most tragedies start with a character in a happy place, or a relatively good place, and then slow fall. Saki's entire life is *just the fall.* Even in the beginning, Saki's life is boring, sterile, and miserable. No friends, no fun, nothing real. By the end her life is raw hedonism - sex, drugs, and attention - but all empty. She just goes from one kind of deeply miserable to the *opposite* kind of deeply miserable, and then *dies.*
    She never even got the chance to save herself.

    • @IMMA_MINER
      @IMMA_MINER Před 6 měsíci

      Not all stories have a happy ending bro

    • @whoppermelt
      @whoppermelt Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@IMMA_MINER dude i'm saying it's sad. that's all

  • @VacadoRay
    @VacadoRay Před 2 lety +93

    The jojo ending is so wholesome

    • @ItsShaz1
      @ItsShaz1 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed

    • @KariIzumi1
      @KariIzumi1 Před rokem

      If Diavolo dies in that universe, it’s canon

  • @pedro15305
    @pedro15305 Před 2 lety +54

    Metamorphosis would be an incredible dark tragedy story if it wasn't a hentai. The sex scenes are drawn in hentai style, that means they are drawn to be hot, but that takes away so much from the tragedy of the situation. If it was another hentai with generic story and rape tropes I wouldn't care, but because this had such big potential the sex scenes make it actually disgusting.

    • @childrenofscarlet6164
      @childrenofscarlet6164 Před 2 lety +19

      Yeah, i read metamorphosis for the first time yesterday and i feel the pornographic element to it somewhat downplays how grippingly depressing the story is. Even today that ending page still latches to my brain.

    • @pedro15305
      @pedro15305 Před 2 lety

      @@childrenofscarlet6164 Exactly!

    • @liamerasmus8592
      @liamerasmus8592 Před 2 lety +25

      This, yeah. I heard Shindo L in another interview say something along the lines of "Showing rape in hentai can help you empathize more with the victim". That already made me kind of sick to my stomach, and it kind of sums up the weird justifications people come up with for this doujin.
      "It's supposed to be disturbing!" "It's realistic!" Idk about you, but I don't think women who are getting raped make ahegao faces and have heart eyes.
      At the end of the day, it's fiction so I don't really care if you like it or not, or if you appreciate it or not. But I certainly don't agree with the high praise for it being this really incredible, thought-provoking work. Especially since most of the conversation surrounding it doesn’t have anything to do with the themes, but the graphic and disturbing content.
      Anyway, if you want something that's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum (mostly) I'd recommend Jorori's works.

    • @pedro15305
      @pedro15305 Před 2 lety +24

      @@liamerasmus8592 I also agree with you. It's not even only the first few times, its always drawn like that, with ahegao faces and whatnot. I'm not against depicting disturbing themes like rape in media and entertainment, but I am against glorification and banalization of those themes. It should be depicted as it is, a horrible act with no positives. It can be raw, but it shouldn't be long nor super sexualised. Because by doing so you undermine its impact. And case in point, people only talk about it for being disturbing and graphic like you said.

    • @starkillersithstalker6723
      @starkillersithstalker6723 Před 2 lety

      @@pedro15305 this, i agree tho i read somewhere that when ppl get raped you yourself dont emjoy it it feels good bcuz its a stimulation of your body but not to a extend to make lewd faces and heart eyes

  • @love-hammer
    @love-hammer Před rokem +22

    As dark as it could have been, ending on the line "you were the seed of my rebirth" was goddamn beautiful. After like 15 years of reading doujins, it's probably the only line of dialogue I remember.

    • @BalterBlack
      @BalterBlack Před rokem

      But depressing as hell still as it was just a vision before death for her, of her perfect reality

    • @IMMA_MINER
      @IMMA_MINER Před 6 měsíci

      But she's dead bro😔

    • @itsusi3259
      @itsusi3259 Před 6 měsíci +2

      15 years! You OK bro

  • @justsomeguywholosthismusta8495

    Knowing how Saki died made the story more good. Seeing how she off'ed herself made it worth the read for me. It shows how even the most innocent of all innocent human beings can be contaminated with just one single vile of shit(Hayato)... It's always fun to see stories like that where you see a main character who's well dignified and well presented slowly crumble and destroy themselves. Makes it more interesting (At least for me)

  • @THEKNOK
    @THEKNOK Před 2 lety +80

    BASED MAN DOING BASED THINGS IN A BASED PODCAST

  • @vonxiasin8160
    @vonxiasin8160 Před 2 lety +67

    The execution of Metamorphosis is nicely done that you had that one moment asking yourself about life after reading it. Imo if you have a message & idea to tell, just go with it.
    I have this one doujin to share which has the same depressing vibe as Metamorphosis. It's "Renjo no Hokorobi | Love Coming Apart " by Betty. It's not dark but just depressing

  • @b.r.52
    @b.r.52 Před 2 lety +50

    Dang. This guy has some series that helped me get through a few dark times of suicidal tendencies.
    Had friction burns on my Johnson instead.

  • @Dragnil2005
    @Dragnil2005 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Thanks for this Manga, It gave me reality check about how addiction can really destroy one's life.
    I was depressed about the ending but at the end this gave me a lesson to turn my life to a better way now.

  • @nanonato6619
    @nanonato6619 Před 2 lety +29

    i did not expect such a kind wholesome looking man made the absolute hellfire that is metamorphisis

  • @rpamungkas13
    @rpamungkas13 Před 2 lety +94

    The entire podcast can be summed by connor making wtf face.

  • @solanumtuberosa
    @solanumtuberosa Před 2 lety +21

    This is why shit like metamorphosis and punpun (Or NGE to an extent) is memoriable. Most stories try to scare you with gore or edgy downward spiral, but real adult horror is inescapable depression.

  • @mschored487
    @mschored487 Před 2 lety +50

    I feel like Shindo watched the OG episode and heard Garnt's Requiem description and was like "perfect. I'm gonna go with that now."

  • @MyAdam4321
    @MyAdam4321 Před 2 lety +43

    Connor’s expression showed he already knew what Shindo L was gonna say since the moment shindo said “I did some homework…”

  • @skriichi
    @skriichi Před 2 lety +17

    I was like, "I wonder what mangas he's made" and it quickly turned into "Oh, I've read all of them"

  • @-gj3nu
    @-gj3nu Před rokem +8

    Bro wanted it to be more depressing 💀💀💀💀

  • @kowalgd7079
    @kowalgd7079 Před rokem +25

    I just found out about this and it really upset me, mostly because I know 2 girls (1 was a friend) who basically went down the same road, just take out the incest and suicide and it’s exactly the same. It makes me so sad man, so much sin in this world

    • @Titanic_shirohige
      @Titanic_shirohige Před rokem

      there wasn't any incest

    • @kei-lc6tt
      @kei-lc6tt Před rokem +3

      ​@@Titanic_shirohige there was, her father did it with her twice and when her mother found it she got kicked out of the house and started living with hayato

    • @Titanic_shirohige
      @Titanic_shirohige Před rokem

      @@kei-lc6tt sorry i must have misread something

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Titanic_shirohigethere is no BUG & SPIDER in the story, you mean

  • @primexample8912
    @primexample8912 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Funny thing is metamorphosis isnt he's ONLY Depressing Manga...

  • @user-wu8qc9bb3e
    @user-wu8qc9bb3e Před rokem +7

    When she get beats up by random strangers at the end, it makes me feel so bad.

    • @ElfGodd3ss
      @ElfGodd3ss Před rokem +11

      They weren't strangers they were students from her former high school she dropped out though

  • @sdbzfan1
    @sdbzfan1 Před 2 lety +117

    Metamorphosis was the first hentai that got me interested in story outside of rpgs, now i love reading hentai more for the stories because i already know there is gonna be sex, i wanna see the world your mind comes up with and some are better than most ecchi anime and ever more wholesome

  • @sozius0
    @sozius0 Před 2 lety +13

    I didn't really get the ending to it apparently, when I read it I interpretted the glasses as symbolism for her leaving her past behind her but no it apparently meant death and that 'happy ending' was a hallucination she had in her last breaths but it does leave it for interprettation so if I can interpret it the way I want to I will.

  • @childrenofscarlet6164
    @childrenofscarlet6164 Před 2 lety +17

    I read metamorphosis for the first time yesterday and it still latches to my mind like a facehugger. I need a detox.

  • @nichtstern5147
    @nichtstern5147 Před rokem +5

    That legend also drew how Josuke saved her by Crazy Diamond-ing her back in time.

  • @jamesd5532
    @jamesd5532 Před 2 lety +24

    Here's the real ending: You follow the blood trail to the bathroom and find her. You call the ambulance. Then later on you check on her at the hospital. You become very good friends with her and kind of protect her. Now the ending with her and her daughter is real because you basically rescued her.

  • @colonelpopcorn7702
    @colonelpopcorn7702 Před 2 lety +16

    Man I have no idea why people read metamorphosis. That shit basically made me asexual for a week

  • @IzuruIZG
    @IzuruIZG Před 2 lety +5

    I think the one where she has a kid is the canon one because its just too precious seeing saki actually happy

  • @blinded6502
    @blinded6502 Před 2 lety +7

    Oooh, I've read all of his stuff!
    Never been so ashamed of myself in my life

  • @ariannanightingale4054
    @ariannanightingale4054 Před rokem +6

    To be fair, I don't like Metamorphosis being meme'd on as much as it is because the speed of descent is surreal, too fast for feeling anything. I would say "unrealistic" and that's why I don't understand what everyone is so sad about.

    • @nicholasdudkiewicz5153
      @nicholasdudkiewicz5153 Před rokem

      Not at all unfortunately. Been around drugs my entire adult life and can say that its not at all uncommon to see someone get heroin addicted and be working as a prostitute or stripper or both in a short time span

  • @c-lao
    @c-lao Před 5 měsíci +3

    I've only read the plot on Wikipedia. How can it possibly get any bleaker than that?

  • @dominickaldape7719
    @dominickaldape7719 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm not an avid watcher of Trash Taste and I know Joey's talked about it before in his personal channel but have they ever talked about the Daily Life of Mai-Chan? Cuz I remember that that was the peak of bizarre/guro eromanga for a long time and I would love to see Garnt and Connor's reaction to it.

    • @fakeemail4005
      @fakeemail4005 Před rokem +1

      Daily Life was the most fucked up thing I've ever read, to this day. Particularly because despite it being so crazy, it WAS a somewhat logical conclusion of what would happen if an immortal young girl got caught up in human trafficking. And it was particularly inspiring how Mai-Chan, somehow, stayed optimistic despite all the shit she went through

  • @sandilemlambo5701
    @sandilemlambo5701 Před 2 lety +5

    Legend has it that Saki now has a Josuke haircut

  • @spongeyspikes09
    @spongeyspikes09 Před rokem +3

    to quote: One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind those eyes...
    What dreams of chronic and sustained *cruelty* ?

  • @zillauniverse7208
    @zillauniverse7208 Před 2 lety +10

    Can’t wait to meet him at AX

  • @amegalodonwithinternetacce5863

    The story of Metamorphosis is such a common thing where I’m from and I feel that’s the most horrifying part.

  • @kendricklogan5661
    @kendricklogan5661 Před 2 lety +1

    Metamorphism was crushing to read all those years back but that is what marks its quality I suppose. Like a car accident that gets worse and you just can't look away for some reason.

  • @nabongobong9155
    @nabongobong9155 Před 2 lety +4

    Metamorphosis: *hella depressing*
    Shindo L: "Oh you havent seen anything yet"

  • @randomttm5038
    @randomttm5038 Před 2 lety +6

    I love these videos :)

  • @IanM..
    @IanM.. Před rokem +4

    I recently bought a physical copy of metamorphosis and when it arrived i took it out of the package and saw the cover art i have never rushed something into a drawer so fast 😆

  • @goonily1
    @goonily1 Před rokem +5

    Metamorphosis is literally just failing all of the qtes in a telltale game but there's no gameover

  • @fade2716
    @fade2716 Před rokem +6

    ShindoL's work is a blessing and a curse.Also metamorphosis has some message to it that i think can relate irl

  • @apostleofninomaeinais3578

    I've read his Dog doujin and it was so good that I reread it in some occasion

  • @ringadingding7667
    @ringadingding7667 Před rokem +4

    The ending was the the hardest hitting part. The reason why the josuke ending is such a good remedy is because it makes the hallucination be true.

  • @VacadoRay
    @VacadoRay Před 2 lety +9

    I've kept my friend from reading this.. But some days I want to let them do it

  • @OJSRT24565
    @OJSRT24565 Před 2 lety

    Holly shit this is legendary interview

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Před rokem

    so cool they got this guy I can't wait to see what else he reveals about his manga

  • @pokemondude45
    @pokemondude45 Před 2 lety +8

    10:25 just for the entertainment. And yeah, despite how morbid that sounded, car crashes are indeed entertaining

  • @sadaomao7425
    @sadaomao7425 Před rokem +1

    "idon't think about puting out a massage whem i write a story"
    can we have have more of this please?!

  • @ItsShaz1
    @ItsShaz1 Před 2 lety +5

    Jojo ending coming in clutch to make us feel some happiness.

  • @Eupator5
    @Eupator5 Před 2 lety +16

    A more depressing version of Metamorphosis already exists. It's called Tristia. See also Epistulae ex Ponto.

    • @aznotfound5204
      @aznotfound5204 Před rokem +1

      code?

    • @ablackbunny3149
      @ablackbunny3149 Před rokem +4

      @@aznotfound5204 I don't think it's doujin. I think they're poems from a Roman poet named Ovid.

  • @licklack6763
    @licklack6763 Před 2 lety +3

    THE ABSOLUTE LEGEND

  • @KaiUndMoritz
    @KaiUndMoritz Před rokem

    This guy scared me for life like bridge to terabithia

  • @mrm0nty550
    @mrm0nty550 Před 2 lety +6

    Thank god Josuke and Okuyasu came in and saved her.

  • @yyonn7966
    @yyonn7966 Před 2 lety +2

    In this case, Connor was literally caught in 4k.

  • @gn4918
    @gn4918 Před 2 lety +3

    Now i need to do some homework before watching this

  • @SUPERSMASHTV177O13
    @SUPERSMASHTV177O13 Před 4 měsíci +3

    177013/Metamorphosis has been deleted from Nhentai

  • @TheSonBC0
    @TheSonBC0 Před rokem

    Seen that "smartphone app" oneshot

  • @OBIIIIIIIII
    @OBIIIIIIIII Před 2 lety +5

    It was about effing time you got our lord and saviour on the podcast

  • @marverak
    @marverak Před 2 lety

    Wonder if we'll ever get a director's cut

  • @Amuro1X
    @Amuro1X Před 2 lety +1

    my intro to Shindo L was TSF Monogatari. I recently finally purchased a physical Eng copy of it and my favorite part of it is the comic under the dust cover talking about how Ero Manga has become popular in the west but western pigs never buy it, lol

  • @carlosgarza400
    @carlosgarza400 Před 2 lety +9

    Honestly I didn't think she died the first time but after reading it multiple times I got it

    • @pajvarma
      @pajvarma Před 2 lety +2

      Same , i thought she survived and had a kid.

  • @xaina222
    @xaina222 Před 2 lety +6

    Wait his penname is Shindo L ?
    Ive always been calling him Shindol
    This is Gold Roger all over again.

  • @the697king
    @the697king Před 2 lety +1

    Thee doujin is the most original work to date. Almost seems like a story based on a real, life events.

  • @leogazebo5290
    @leogazebo5290 Před 2 lety +5

    Yoo I low key wanna read an even more depressing Metamorphosis 100/10

  • @genzkie2082
    @genzkie2082 Před rokem +1

    Now they Got Shindo On the Studio Wow😮

  • @nineclouds5689
    @nineclouds5689 Před 2 lety +40

    177013, I'll just leave the code for people who are curious about it here. Well, the majority of people knew about the code already. Warning: You'll get either depressed, shocked, or disgusted.

    • @4gamestetra117
      @4gamestetra117 Před 2 lety +2

      I think most people feel all 3

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 Před 2 lety

      @@4gamestetra117 Yah, definetly all three at the same time

    • @tman1669
      @tman1669 Před 2 lety +3

      Depressed: you know why
      Shocked: Honestly I feel more depressed
      Disgusted: DADDY NO!!! (Among other moments that make me question humanity as a whole. I know we were f*cked before going in and afterwards. I learned we are irredeemable.)

    • @randomguy2402
      @randomguy2402 Před 2 lety

      Or all 3 lol

  • @SumeaBizarro
    @SumeaBizarro Před 6 měsíci +2

    "Turns out people are fucked." -Shindo L

  • @herospeedy3174
    @herospeedy3174 Před rokem

    i saw the title and went: ooooooohhhh noooooooo.

  • @shadowfox6276
    @shadowfox6276 Před 2 lety +2

    The legend himself :]

  • @undary0u
    @undary0u Před rokem +7

    Unironicly a masterpiece with how it's convays the true depths of depravity that occur everyday without a majority of us even knowing and the ending was so masterfully done that when I read it for the first time I thought she was still alive and was filled with hope that her life would be turn around until I realized what happened and was depressed more then usual for about a week or 2 . It's written like a great shien but with alot and more detailed intercourse .

    • @zzxp1
      @zzxp1 Před rokem +2

      This is sarcasm right?

    • @alias4795
      @alias4795 Před rokem

      🤓

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u Před rokem

      @@alias4795 Imagine calling others needs cause your illiterate 🤧

  • @joshthelena
    @joshthelena Před 2 lety +2

    Greatest Podcast Ever!

  • @cybersurfer3d837
    @cybersurfer3d837 Před rokem +1

    5:30 dang, I just spoiled it for myself

  • @rimurusthegoat
    @rimurusthegoat Před 2 lety +2

    Man I hate how I got drawn into reading metamorphosis I thought it was about Ayame kajou from A Boring world where the concept of dirty doesn't exist

  • @arminfaramarzpoor1007
    @arminfaramarzpoor1007 Před 2 lety +2

    Bruh i just realised this is a new upload😂😂😂

    • @PrograError
      @PrograError Před 2 lety

      Timeline is a bit messy right now ...

  • @kosuzu_
    @kosuzu_ Před rokem

    If I had to describe, the story was like “Requiem for a Dream”

  • @joebin3106
    @joebin3106 Před rokem +2

    The Man, The Myth, The Legend

  • @WishGender
    @WishGender Před rokem

    i just read metamorphosis so i could understand this episode better. i don't know if i regret it, but i cleared my search history afterward