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A temple like this is something that Yoda should’ve told Luke as a force ghost when he was older
Too bad Yoda is not all knowing. Yoda wasn’t exactly a history buff or anywhere close to studious.
I think that librarian Jedi would’ve known.
David Benioff and DB Weiss moment.
The Council: "We sorta forgot."
If I could just point out something very important; The title says UNKNOWN REGIONS and the video narrated says OUTTER Rim Territories.
You’re very right, but mind you the outer rim isn’t to far from the unknown region it’s also known for mysterious things from
The unknown regions to sometimes interact with the outer rim, but yeah good pointing out he probably made a title mistake.
@@dribblingdavid547i just mean, the outer rim is the entire outer area around the mid rim and the inner core, the unknown regions are just a big area on the left side of the galaxy.
Like in the game KOTOR were the Jedi council Wiped Revans mind and replaced it or tried too. "They say the Force can do terrible things to a mind. It can wipe away your memories and destroy your very identity." - Carth Onasi
Fun fact, the curator whose robes were made "entirely of silvery blue light" was later forced to undergo a training seminar himself at the Dawn Temple over repeated complaints of indecent exposure. Turns out "robes made out of light" aren't part of the company dress code.
that's pretty hilarious. Now I'm stuck trying to imagine jedi Karen's.
I suppose if the light faded even breifly it could be embarrassing
Yeah... Sounds like something many might say.. dunno what sorta drugs the Order likes to use but apparently they got some of the best
@@mtk064 aren't all jedi Karens?
If this was canon, I can see Barris Offee being secreted away to this place
I think Palpatine would have taken her into custody and trained her as an inquisitor rather than turn her over to a Jedi prison
I mean, we kinda see traces of this with Dagan Gera in Jedi Survivor. He’s been locked in stasis and forced to live in a simulation for several thousand years, though it seems that by that point he figured out how to manipulate the outside world somewhat. It’s not a direct 1:1, since there wasn’t any direct pressure to repent, but it’s still a similarity I noticed
Along with some like Dipa, Mace's old student an former Council Member
What if… Ezra found it
That’s a crazy good theory.. what if Ezra were to find it???
I swear pressing a Stupendous Wave video is like actually docking at a space station meant to lecture about the history of the galaxy and you just sit there and listen to the knowledgable teacher fill you in on all the lore. It's honestly very relaxing during any activity. Work, working out, or just doing whatever
A hidden temple, away from the Empire? You'd think Yoda would've utilized this. Or that one guy from Jedi Survivor who found (Tanalor?) And the Council didn't bother using it as a backup Temple place to hide if $hit hit the fan.
For a bunch of force users... the Jedi Councils often have very little foresight
One of many ways the whole Council not just Yoda failed. Along with whom knew other key Jedi, basically anyone whom knew about this an was still alive while 66 was happening an/or it started.
An really depends on which era "survivor" as several times a different survivor was sometimes about ALL their was left to pick up the pieces. I get the impression from the context your probably referring to Kal Kestis. Whom only sorta had aid too
I dont think it would be a good idea for Yoda to hide there, it was a place for healing, not somewhere you want to trouble those recovering with the problems outside the temple, especially if they are in any danger of falling.
Cal simply wouldn't have a way to know about it unless they discovered some old reference to it, but if he did find them, I'd wager he would make a similar decision to leave them be like with the force sensitive holocron i.
The Jedi Council making poor or the wrong decisions is par for the course, has been for thousands of years
I will say with the yoda part it makes sense that he'd want to be somewhat accessible for Luke and Leia one day. The other Jedi idk how many knew but any who knew but didn't try it were pretty dumb or just really didn't want the empire to track them there but still.
They wouldn't have been able to hide there. A bunch of highly recognizable force signatures in the same area is a great way to lose any hiding spot. Pretty basic and common starwars logic. Thats one of the reasons Yoda stayed on Dagoba. Was to hide his force signature through the dark side nexus within the cave on the planet.
I can imagine if Pong Krell survived his execution on Umbara he’d be imprisoned at the Dawn Temple. And after Order 66, he’d be free and free the many dark Jedi in stasis forming his own army making the Dawn Temple his fortress and even the whole planet his dominion.
There had to be Jedi running that place, even after order 66.
Wow! I’ve never heard of the Dawn Temple. Awesome!!
So the Jailer calmly and gently puts you into stasis and activates electroshock therapy.
I hate that my notifications aren't working for your channel, but I'm glad the force brings me here when I need it most.
I find this place valuable. In regard to it being kept secret: that was probably good in case one of these Dark Jedi were to find a Sith who could attack the place. Although, it does seem like it should've been used more, but wasn't to actually keep it a secret.
Hey I thought I'd comment this here to see if you think this idea has any merit.
I think that one of the reasons that Anakin was so powerful in the light side of the force, was also because of his emotions. When he leans into his fear and anger it's obviously the dark side, but when he's thinking of the people hes helping and his loved ones (when they're not the ones in danger) he's actually leaning more into the light. His love for his mother and wife gave him the ability to look into the future for warnings, but he did not respond to them properly (not saying I know what the proper way would be). We know that Luke Skywalker had a wife and found that if the light emotions are used to fuel the power, then their abilities in the light side of the force will be greater.
This is a random thought from my brain that I turned into a comment. Hope it's not completely idiotic.
Thanks for reading :)
I agree, it has mereit and I also believe it works that way. Thank you for sharing, yes you are onto something
Interestingly male Cerean Jedi were given special privileges when it came to families as the male to female ratio was very low the species as a whole had far more females than males and due to this male cereans we're allowed to marry and have several wives and children. I am sure a few other species also had similar societal obligations within their species and had special privileges within the order. So no reason other Jedi should be banned from having families either
It was also the thinking of Revan that the force was best served in the light side by acknowledging feelings like he did when he returned to the light
My theory is that Palpatine sent him visions of Padme in pain. He let him see his mother suffer. He threw it up to him about killing the sand people so he knew what he did. I don't think he could see into the future. I think Palpatine sent him visions to manipulate him just because his emotional attachment would lead him to the dark side.
@@jimmypickett2449 it's definitely true that Sidious did this, but I believe that it is canonical true that foresight was a very prevalent ability that anakin had.
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Great video! It's so interesting that this place was only known about by masters and high ranking personnel in the jedi order.
Thank you for the continued content , your dedication to the lore is most admirable
So the other Jedi didnt question or notice that a bunch of jedi during the clone wars just disappeared off of Coruscant? Also, they could have been let out after Order 66 and could help fight the Empire
I'm sure they noticed, but what about it? It was probably a natural occurrence for Jedi to be dispatched on covert operations for weeks, months, or even years at a time. Plus, when a Jedi is showing signs of waning towards the Dark side, their peers likely notice it to some degree too and are aware that it's something that needs to be handled by their seniors. I'd imagine they're not all privy to how they go about that "cleansing/alignment" process.
As for letting them out to help fight during Order 66? That was a surprise attack. This Temple was hidden and isolated for the benefit of those Jedi who were falling towards the Dark side. The Light side was at its weakest during Order 66. Releasing people who are tempted by the Dark side to go and engage in that situation would've exacerbated the demise of the Jedi. They'd either have been killed by clones or corrupted by Darth Sidious and brought over to the Dark side as pawns. However, there was no situation in which these struggling Jedi needing rehabilitation were going to be able to stop Sidious, Vader, and the clones.
@@techfu582 I said after Order 66. Yea I agree about Order 66. But I should have clarified that I meant once the rebellion was underway. These jedi could have helped in the rebellion if they were in the dark side but not hating the republic. Or at least those 3 jedi still in the light side guarding/running it could have helped in the rebellion.
@@HumanitarianTeam I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. When you said "after Order 66" I thought of the period right after Sidious executed the plan and so I took "after" a little too literally. lol
I still question how reliable the Jedi in stasis would've been, but I too wondered about the three Jedi stationed there. I imagine they were very powerful (but probably no match for Vader). It was said in the video they abandoned the temple, but then what? It really seems like they threw up the deuces, found a peaceful planet to live on, and lived the rest of their lives in hiding.
Vader spent a while hunting down the surviving Jedi, but because the Temple was hidden, I imagine the existence of those three Jedi was also hidden. So without knowledge of them, all Vader would have to go by would be his connection with the Force somehow leading him to them. But they spent all that time hidden on that rehab planet, so I'd imagine they're quite good at evading being detected using the Force. I really think they just abandoned everyone and everything.
@@techfu582 Yea if they met up with the others or Ahsoka (assuming they knew each other. If those 3 jedi had never met other jedi in the order it would be harder) and trained Ezra and others
@@techfu582woulda made for QUITE an interesting storyline arc though... A bunch of "damaged" struggling to recover Jedi get released an go various ways an doing various things... Including quite a number both understanding things like just HOW bad 66 is an the severity of the Galaxy an the VERY real dangers not just the rest of the verse but then too are in an trying to help fix things an renew the Jedi Order, learn from their darker mistakes, etc.. sounds like a scifi soap opera.. can imagine what a Holo show in they verse with a plot like this would be named an go..
Where do you get this info, I would like to read more about this. Great video!
This gives new Canon to the old saying “The road to hell is paved by good intentions”
There needs to be a "What if Anakin was brought to this temple?"
best episode in a while. very interesting
I wish we could see this in live action.
We may get Our wish...
S. Wave was definitely friends with Master Cordova before he died
This gave me vibes from the Mandalirian arc wirh the scientist who worked for Gideon. I imagine that the Jedi were using a similar machine, which is sort of horrifying. This also gives me yet another reason I would like to punt Yoda, since he was always so dismissive of salvation, and said once you started down the Dark path, there was never a coming back.
Very interesting video 👍
Sounds like excellent material for a new book. Jedi leads a strike team to snatch and grab a Jedi who has fallen so they can take them to this secret temple. 😎
At 0:57 I swear to God you said sphincter 😂.
I heard it too.
I can see the limited knowledge of this place started as a security measure against dark Jedi or Sith that wanted to free those on world. It could all too easily turn into a kind of gatekeeping and elitism
The knowledge that a place existed, somehwere, should have been more widely shared. The planet doesn't even need to be named, let alone its location. But the wider order should now this sort of place exists if they need it.
Interesting idea
I can't help but point out that on paper, the purpose of this temple bears MUCH more than a passing resemblance in concept to conversion therapy at its worst. Do I even need to explain how messed up that is?
3:32 what kind of lightsaber IS that?!
REVAN vs SIDIOUS pls
I’m surprised they didn’t send Quinlan Vos there before order 66.
This would have been the easiest way to survive Order 66 and the Empire. Wait everything out and wake up and just keep going.
Okay...why haven't I heard about this place before? I personally want to see this place depicted in The Old Republic, The High Republic, The Cal Kestis/JEDI trilogy, The New Republic/The Mandoverse, and in the future. I wonder what The Sith, The Nihil/Marchion Ro, and The Acolytes Of The Beyond would think of this very special, remote planet and temple? This would also make a nice place to hide some significant Jedi/Force-users, during the time of both The Empire and The First Order.
Was it wrong to keep the temple so secret, yes. There's nothing wrong with having such a temple, as for wanting to keep what happens inside a secret is understandable to a certain degree. Not everything that goes on with the jedi needs to be known by everyone. It doesn't affect everyone outside of the jedi order. The only way they went wrong was getting involved with the galactic senate.
this is just part that shows how corrupt the jedi are
If it were well known, I’m sure corruption from the Dark side would’ve found its way there. War, corruption, and other issues that would have interfered with the rehabilitation process.
Just as with the hidden Sith temples, untouched by the Light, they’re able to become significantly more in tune with the Dark side.
The knowledge that this place existed, somehwere in the galaxy, should have been widely shared. The planet doesn't even need to be named, let alone its location given out. But the order at large should now this exists if they or someone they know needs it.
@@kingofhearts3185 If a Jedi was suspicious of a comrade, believing that they may be falling towards the dark side, and they shared that with their superiors (the Jedi Council), the superiors would make the decision to send them there or not. Why would the hidden temple be something that should be shared among everyone? Its purpose was to be completed isolated so that the Jedi there could realign with the Light side of the Force undisturbed. By making the existence of that Temple well known, it would’ve inevitably led to its demise sooner due to conflict eventually making its way there. That wouldve made it harder to rehabilitate the waning Jedi who were already struggling with not succumbing to the Dark side.
@@techfu582 As I said, the name and location can, and probably should, be kept secret.
It's the knowledge that there is a place, somewhere in the galaxy, that jedi struggling with the dark side can go for help that should be more well known.
Don't forget how dismissive the masters are in aotc that dooku was responsible for the assassination attempt, it's very likely other jedi would give their close friends the benefit of the doubt or keep concerns to themselves if they think there's a severe punishment.
Damn I'd watch this show. This is wild!
Well, I think there's kind of an obvious reason to keep such a place secret, namely, you don't want it to be getting out that a bunch of dark-side troubled Jedi are in one place, that's practically hanging out a 'Vulnerable Dark Side Recruits Here' to any actually-Dark Sidey/Sithey people out there.
Obi-Wan could've easily ordered Rex & Cody to bring Pong Krell here had the Jedi Counsel intervened
You actually liked pong krell?
I never said that. I said if the Jedi counsel did not call Anakin back to Coruscant, in an alternative scenario, & Krell lied to him about it, Obi-Wan may very well have helped the clones in defeating him without the number of casualties he caused for himself
This is disgusting! What they did. People should have known this. They should have treat their Jedi brothers and sisters with every dignity. To show love and care. I understand it's abandoned during Order 66 and hidden. But they just left them there. It's terrible. i don't agree with this. At all. May the Force be with you too,always 😊
The Dawn temple does sound interesting.
I’ve always felt after playing the Star Wars games that the force was meant to be gray… neither light or dark and that true balance in the force was gray.
It's a blessing that the Empire never found this temple, otherwise, Sidious would have used the truth of the Dawn Temple to further demonize the Jedi.
I don’t find this that disturbing, they don’t want too much people knowing their business… “Never show your good hand too early”
War messes up people in general that is why many Jedi fell to the dark side
Day 199 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Disney: We need a reason to explain all these Order 66 survivors, and why we made a bacta soup with Dagan Gera. Yeah, we can really skew the dogma of the Republic age Jedi Council, but this is just stupid... and way too far.
You new fans never would've survived through legends lol
WHAT
I like to know what’s top speed on r2 d2,hmmm,wheels
what comic (assuming comic) was this mentioned in?
or was it in fallen order?
It sounds like they tried to do the two moons thing from the older order but forgot about the second one.
The order forgot about the second one a long time ago, that was their downfall.
Mace windu wanted ventress executed, glad obi wan stepped in
Would you let everyone know then a jedi turn sith can go there and free them and have a dark side army it's obvious to keep it secret
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
A good idea in theory. But in practice this place leaves plenty to be desired. That's what I think.
You need to harness both light and dark to be whole
Is this reminding anyone about a certain place or someone from the Earth Kingdom in ATLA ?? 🤔
Remember: There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
Form the sound of it, the admitted jedi patients are far more likely to go crazy there.
i can see why the force wanted the Jedi order gone , it was no longer order of balance but destruction
Dagen Gera was in need of more help
Guess who could use some recovery time on Dawn Temple... 🙃
Keanu reeves going play lord Vader father Luke skywalker grandfather in show then last movies 🎥
You mixed up Daegen Lok (from the end of the Je'daii era) and Dagan Gera (of Jedi Survivor). Also, to be fair, with people as powerful as Jedi, containing the rogue ones is a necessity. We see how much havoc they can cause if they fall. And that kind of approach did more or less work on Revan.
Day 1 of realizing Rey has exar kuns lightsaber. "Double bladed Saber not saff"
A society secret or not WILL have secrets of its own. It would seem some more investigation is warranted into why mind rearranging is totally acceptable to the Jedi, and yet we NEVER hear talk about " imposing your WILL upon another is forbidden"? Shouldn't invading another's mind be considered a dark power from the start? Makes a little more sense why they wave their hands around like a traffic cop on overtime. 😅😂
Sounds Like a Very Sith Thing to do! The Jedi were Hypocrites! The Ends Don't Always Justify the Means!
If one goes into the books (especially) an some of the games if one really digs an some vague references in the shows an alot of the movies.. there's ACTUALLY quite a few things the Jedi did an had secretly. An that was just an ass thing to do NOT leading with this temple. HOWEVER it was pretty seriously a Sith thing to do Force "brainwashing" an imprisonment... Basically, one of the Dark inner secrets of this sect an one of many things not apparently sanctioned or Force Approved. Beginning question just HOW MANY There REALLY was an what was capable of as well as numbers of secret branches an sites like THIS. One wouldn't think they could be dropped into oblivion THAT easy then. Maybe at worst crippled by someone like Sideous an things like 66.
I guess the Dawn Temple was where they sent Revan
It was at that moment that I realized the Jedi were actually the Chinese government
I think it was a good place to have available but because of 66 it was forgotten as well as those inside. 😮
The planet Sphincter?
I love legends stuff but this is one of those things I feel has way too many holes in it to be kept or made canon.
9:51 much like how Dagan who?
this couldve been the last refuge for the the jedi during order 66
sometimes i think the jedi at certain points of time are very much just like the sith.
What if this was the plot to the Yoda Movie
Is this what happened to Revan?
It's definately the same process, but looking at the wiki this is from a 2015 rpg that doesn't mention him.
Is this legends?
Joras C'baoth should have been sent there. Is Not wrong place to make. I can think of a lot of Jedi that should have go gone there. Pong Krell.
Does this temple still exist ?
maybe the Jedi took Revan to this place when they reprogrammed his mind
Hmm, a bunch of monks living on a planet called sphincter…
Why does the Jailer sound more Akin to Fully Sentient Artificial intelligence
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
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All i know is that big cross lightsaber is about as stupid as possible and completely rediculous
Jedi and sith are two sides of the same coin
What if you take light and dark side simeltaniesly.
Some need to be imprisoned for the betterment of all.
No one tried to use this as a trap for Vader
To be honest, I kinda saw the red flags when you mentioned how peaceful it was. Also please put trigger warning on this next time, there are a lot of kids who went through a lot because of places like this
(Trigger Warning Mental Institution abuse mentioned below)
I was in a Mental Institution like that (not as extreme mind but the core concepts were there). Staff would through you into a "quite room" for the slightest slip up. Throw you into a "hold" (a very extreme police officer restraint hold actually).
How are the Jedi the good guys again
So they had this….and never sent anakin there ever. 😂
Tanalorr IS MINE!
I think the construction of the Dawn Temple was correct and should not have been kept a secret
Sounds almost sith like
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Not too shocking. Look at how the Council treated Revan
LOL who tf is Dagan Locke 😂
I think you maybe need to find compassion and balance in your pots
Once again the jedi are the creation of their own problem...