This archeological dig site in Miami is uncovering 7,000-year-old history
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An archaeological dig site in Miami's Brickell district has uncovered artifacts going back 7,000 years, along with postholes, gravesites, human remains and other evidence of substantial settlement by the Tequesta Native American tribe.
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"Boss, I found an arrowhead!" "No, you didn't."
About one percent anctient stone point shape rest are way different shapes.long inthe ground are cover w soil no color shows you all miss spot soil dries you may spot some pieces, screen it.
Famous bridge project in Washington State near Port Angeles.... worker says "boss, I found some pottery", later they found bones and more but kept working on the multi-million dollar state project. Word got out, project shut down ENTIRE PROJECT delayed for over a year and moved to a different location. Much bones found and each bone required a convoy of police escorts and archiologists to the Native Culture center 3 hours south. $50 million dollars, and as a state employee all of us had to attend Cultural Awareness courses to identify the arrowheads, bones, even bumps in the ground where tribes once dried huckleberries. Turns out the bridge site was a centuries old Indian burial site.
Lol
Say arrowhead again see what happens. Lol.
😭😭😭
Oh yeah... another high-rise building. Just what the world needed.
Better than any crap built 7000 years ago.
A high rise that you’ll need a boat to get to in 50 years. 😂
Wait till all those condo owners and dwellers realize they are in an unsafe, stack and pack, Smart City ppl kennel. Not where you want to be that close to the water. Can you imagine all individual WiFi’s from all those units blanketing and frying everyone in those buildings? Forget the crap coming off the ugly ominous “cell” towers everywhere. Ugh
Exactly. Their overpopulating small areas of nuts. For one that’s to close to waters edge, especially when heavy hitting storms next one might be the killer.
@@timhinchcliffe5372 Ahhh no not with the cheap chinese crap used to build these buildings of today, that site was built with real stone that is why they can still find the remains. The condo will be a rusted skeleton only 500 years from now if not a lot less.
A building houses a department store in Bologna, where the ground floor has a sturdy see-through floor where excavations of an earlier culture can be seen. I think the building also includes access to the archeological site for archeologists. It seems to me that the developers in Miami when they start building, could preserve some of the sites in that way, and maybe have it as a museum on the ground level that the public can visit once the building is open. Just a thought.
The same should be considered at this Miami site.
They could but this is america, where we know no law but money, so they won't.
@@mojrimibnharb4584 Lol! Sadly, I'm sure you're right!
Yeah that sounds rasonable for this site too.
I am originally from Miami but live in Europe now and you find the preservation of archeological sites in many big cities. It can even be advantageous for money-hungry developers if they have a little imagination.
Sounds like a very significant find! It’s also important to remember that ocean levels were 200 feet lower during the ice age. That puts the site much further from the ocean than today’s shoreline.
Yeah, but this us Florida, so... no matter how "significant", no one who counts in the situation will _ever_ see it as being at all _important._
Yup, and the sea level will keep rising, this is our best chance.
It’s an ancient homeless shelter site, keep moving.
What does this site have to do with the last ice age?
@@wyomarine6341
Sounds interesting!! I grew up with The Bay in my life. Beautiful.
My great great grandmother used to live and hid in a mud hut in Florida’s Everglades in the late 1800’s. Her people had been there for generations. I’m certain other developers have overlooked similar findings.
It's all about $$ 😔 😔
Overlooked? Or buried before anyone else found out? Not the same thing. We’ve GOT to stop pandering to the infinitely greedy in this country. It’s killing America.
Yeah and they're still dead.
@@321FlaKeys Perfect. I would build over it too.
Something to be proud of ❤
Archeological investigation should always come first, the contractors can wait! This dig shows an indigenous people from 7,000 years ago. Our history books contain very few details of past civilizations and most are hidden so our history looks perfect according to those in power.
Then the contractors should be given a break by the city, like massive taxes they have to pay, etc etc. I’ve known some go broke because of legal battles like this dragging on for years. Thousands out of jobs for projects like this.
@@jenniferfitzgerald1796 yes, preservation of such findings is important. The investors and contractors need to get paid for the down time, and it needs to be done expeditiously and move on. Better than what people in 1800s did when they find dinosaurs bones and just use the marrows to shine their leather shoes and then discard the bones. Or when farmers flatten down ancient small pyramid sites and find skeletons of giants and just discard them.
William Gallant, How long should the contractors wait? months? years? It’s easy to dismiss financial loss …… as long as it’s not your own.
@@jenniferfitzgerald1796 I agree.
@@stuartstuart866 Tie up some of these archeologists property, investment, contractual obligations, liquidity etc. and see how they cry. This is a branch of academia. These are the people who know so much better than the rest of us. So they say.
In England they preserve the ancient sites by making them the basement of the new structure and keep working on them. Some become museums, in themselves. Way to enhance value of building.
I grew up in Miami during the 1950's thru to late 60's and the developers almost without fail bulldozed through historic sites with little government regulatory pushback except for a very few sites
like Fort Dallas, still remember important sites being given little notice of their historic importance until years after the ultimate demise when it's to late learn their place in a historic content.
If anything europeans did everything in their power to destroy any evidence of Native Life.
Same thing happened in the UK when building the HS2 line. They found hundreds of Anglo-Saxon burials, with weapons, jewellery and pottery in the graves. They found the remains of Roman houses and roads and lost medieval villages and churches. They excavated an entire 18-19th century graveyard in central London, where they discovered the coffin, with its brass plate still attached, of Mathew Flinders. He was a Royal Navy officer that circumnavigated Australia. Anything that can't be removed will be documented and built over. The treasure trove of goods they recovered was excellent.
And you know, in Sweden they've given the order to start melting down viking artifacts. The absolute state of abuses being committed against history is quite striking.
No that's not the same thing. Are you confused? This is a "7,000" year old site. Not 2-700 years.
@@whoyounome I'm not confused, I just value European history significantly more than any indigenous American one.
@Max Hall Oh, so you just don't know. I value European history as well. However, unlike you, I value all of 🌎's history, not just a small portion. I recommend you start to "value" more than Anglo Saxon/white history and open your mind to the whole picture and not just a little corner of it. That way, the world can continue to grow and humanity can ascend and not descend.
Good. I say get all the "artifacts" dug up, document it, and put it in a museum, and then build new stuff on the dirt.
I’ve often heard it was fairly common for construction bosses to toss bones and things aside when they were found, because having to call in archaeologists and historical societies slows down the work for weeks at a time and I can imagine how that would mean many workers end up not getting paid, so the bosses just push along like nothing was there to meet deadlines and keep everybody paid.
You heard the truth. That’s what they do.
@@crawwwfishh3284 the delay is usually in YEARS.!! Though if you're a smart landholder/developer you'd be advised holding a piece in DOWNTOWN worth tens of millions to do a preliminary excavation YEARS before development to get your information on track.
It’s not just weeks but years or decades depending on the find. And archeologists don’t move fast nor car about schedules of construction. I’d rather it be preserved by not touching it and covered over it than it getting destroyed because they don’t want to be inconvenienced by the gov. …
A lot of times the bodies aren’t even studied but reburied in the closest modern tribes graveyard… it’s weird that it’s not treated the same , just depends on the state and who’s called I guess.
Happens in Canada all the time. The Transmountain pipeline twining took 12 years. The original pipeline in 1953 took 2. Archaeology is a hobby, not a job. It’s a field of predominantly white woke women from wealthy families.
It's almost like business requires some sort of profit while archaeology can ignore it like it doesn't exist.
Leave the space below open and available to archeologists and eventually tourists.
The developers can build their building several stories above the dig site, the underside can have observation balconies and also light up the dig site.
The building's main business can go on whilst discoveries are being made.
Yeah it would be an architectural challenge but I believe it would be worth the effort.
I think for $200 million, some one can come up with something, with hurricanes an all.
When you effort to collect the money to pay for it, you just let us know. Until then, you don't get to spend other people's money.
There is a viking site discovered in Dublin in a similar fashion. It has been used as an educational resource and tour venue and research continues.
Europeans tend to respect archeology more than the USA. ITS ALL ABOUT GREED😪
They can create a river walk and pay tribute to the Tequesta. Like most of those sites across the nation, there’s just fragments from the past.
Yes,my people,I'm Irish and Norwegian
Yeah, and while they still built over it, they had the massive amount of decency to put little glass panels in the floor so people could view the historical sites.
@@shirleyandrews1152true,and archeologists from the US have to travel somewhere else in the world if they are ever to get any real field experience. Shameful.
Money vs History.
Regional Merchandiser: This should be the official motto of archaeology.
You would think that they would let it be for archaeology and let archaeologists keep finding and studying. There'll be stuff there but will have to go in the water beneath to get to it. Maybe special submarine. 👀🙂
There’s really no shortage of sites like this one. Archeological digs are super expensive and take decades
More like the brainwashed narrative vs true history of our realm.
The Old World Florida channel on YT is full of amazing esoteric history of Florida
I can't believe the world we live in, where a piece of paper, iis more important than learning about ancient history and perhaps finding extremely valuable artifacts.
Well, you tell me, are you willing to live your entire life with absolutely nothing to "learn about ancient history"? Lots of people who will never lose a dime in this sure have a lot of opinions of the people who have everything riding on it.
No more High Rises Please
No more Suburbs, no more high rises, NO MORE HOUSING!
*sponsored by boomers, realtors, and the bulk of the cash buyers in the US*
on the plus side there's almost no demand for land with nothing on it and no utilities
Dumb idea when having trouble with housing
I know some developers overlook certain things like arrowheads and bones because it can cause a huge delay, but when something so significant is found its a shame when they are covered up
You can find arrowheads on every inch of FL. I used to have a bag of them I collected from Tampa northward
Have you watched today's culture? Nobody cares about history and traditions it's progressivism and destroying the past
I can see both sides of it. I'm no fan of high-rise buildings or unlimited development, but bones and arrowheads don't really seem all that significant. I think it's worse when a species faces extinction because of loss of habitat.
@@downsouthhustla not 7,000 year old ones
Better dig them bone up quick pretty sure Florida will be under water 🌊 give or take 20 years
I hope they can examine the artifacts and take the time they need. Understanding the history (right under our feet in this case) is more important than another building.
Right under my feet is a slab of concrete in Illinois.
I'm sure there are artifacts here.
I'll sell you my home so you can destroy it to MAYBE find priceless "artifacts" (old junk).
How much are you willing to invest?
PRICELESS ARTIFACTS...
@@mikeries8549 Wow
Fascinating. They should definitely preserve those finds somehow.
In London, roman forts have been found in the city of London, when developers have been digging out the foundations for some of the skyscrapers. The developers, in conjunction with the British government change their plans and managed to incorporate the roman ruins into the new building. You can visit these sites today. They have managed to build these sites with a museum underneath these buildings, which are free to the public to visit. Everyone says the USA I a young country without history. Well obviously that is not the case and every effort should be made to preserve what history you have. It would be a scandal if developers were allowed to trash this, purely for profit.
I agree but that hasn’t happened in every case. I know there was a big development right across the street from Saint Paul’s and they only delayed the construction of it so then a full archaeological dig and survey could be done but then the building was eventually built, destroying the site with the buildings foundations
Not sure why people say there is no history here there are sites here that date back thousands of years
@@JamesThomas-dn6ee Because we all think in the past North America was all nomadic indian tribes. We've heard of the great ancient city ruins in South America and seen them on tv documentaries, but nothing springs to mind for North America. I've often found this strange.
Americans rebuilt Europe after WW2. On our money, not yours. Look up the Marshall Plan.
@@jasminespencer3992 Good. Time to move on.
One often thinks of North America as devoid of archaeological significance, I mean there are very few grand ancient ruins or remains of cities and civilisations compared to South America let alone Europe and Asia, I've never found out the reason for this and find it strange , so to find a 7000 year old site in Florida of all places is like hitting an archaeological jackpot.
The archaeological paradigm that there isn't any architectural significance going back that far is exactly why research to challenge that doesn't get funding or support. When it was asserted by Spanish explorers of there being a city of gold in the Amazon, it was chalked up to myth because the assumption was that the rain forest was inhibitable. The likely truth is that whatever civilization existed there was wiped out from diseases from Europe and the amazon's extreme biodiversity covered up all traces. Well it turns out there were millions of people living there now that deforestation is uncovering the secrets of the jungle floor. Lidar technology has confirmed this and has shown thousands of building foot prints, streets, and irrigation systems. What we've been taught about the Americas is a fraction of the truth I believe.
Look again- they're everywhere in North America! Things are not what they seem when it comes to previous living conditions......
Most of the pre-Roman artifacts,
buildings, sites in Europe itself
have been destroyed. The only
things that have remained are a
few stone megaliths that were
not located when early European
cities sprang up.
Check out the Great Serpent
Mound in Ohio, USA. There
are several other paleo-
Indian (Native American)
sites that have survived
the post-building return
of forestation and the
subsequent erosion.
It is obvious that, prior to the
arrival of Europeans in North
America, that the Mississippi
valley and other sites from
Florida, northward (most
sites near Mississippi river
tributaries) that societies
existed that were civilized
enough to organize themselves
to build large earthen mounds
with elevated platforms.
Those civilizations had ceased
to exist by the time of the
Europeans' arrival; with the
Native Americans living in
those areas knowing nothing
about those who built the
sites (They did have a few
myths) The sites were often
overgrown with trees and the
size as well as configuration
not realized until deforestation
had taken place.
@@silentnot4812
Nobody knows who
built these stone and
earthen mounds.
Some of them have
been excavated.
This fellow's channel
has a lot of videos
about these sites
(as well as other
sites worldwide):
www.youtube.com/@cfapps7865
"The 2,300 Y.O. Stone Pyramid Mound & Fort
Glenford Fort Preserve, Ohio, USA"
czcams.com/video/qh4P8M3U0Mw/video.html
I watched the above today,
I didn't know about the site.
But you can see from that
map at the above video that
there are many sites.
Don't forget, prior to the end
of the last ice age, ocean
levels were much lower.
Many ancient sites are
now 400 - 500 feet (i.e.
121.92m. - 152.4m)
underwater and covered
with silt.
there's a podcast called Kosmographia that has a hypothesis on what happened to north America - worth watching.
I find it really hard to believe that the mouth of the river is in the same place it was 7,000 years ago.
I know
7000 years is nothing in geologic time
@@MrGriff305 7,000 years is infinity to a flowing river. Rivers meander especially in places with no mountains or cliffs. Even more so in areas with sand or that can be affected by hurricane force storms
Whether the river location has remained constant or not, the buildings they build will not last as long as the artifacts they are finding.
@@RandomRoulett3 don’t spread chat ai answers to something that don’t address my point. I don’t care how must it carves in. I am skeptical because all rivers on flat terrain meander. In 7,000 years a river can move hundreds of miles
This kind of archaeological site is of importance not just to Miami and Florida, but to the world, and should be studied properly.
Why? What difference does it make?
Then you pay for it.
Should preserve the site and open a museum.
Which will probably receive, what? maybe …six or seven visitors a year?
#becauseSouthernFlorida
At the very exact time, in Columbus, Ohio there an archeological "dig" being done on a site, in a historic neighborhood. The developers are poised to build a 32 story, mega condominium and retail complex. But beneath the ground is a burial site, consisting of the earliest citizens of Columbus, Ohio. ( So not as old as the site in Miami, but significant to the current inhabitants of Columbus.) This grave site was built in the late 1700s to early 1800s. Columbus was settled in 1804. Columbus, has for the last 40 years, been trying to preserve as many historic sites, as are known about. Columbus is the home to the state of Ohio's historic museum, which has been tasked with saving all historic sites all over Ohio. Many which are older burial sites related to Native or Indigenous peoples who occupied the lands all over the region. Similarly, tents are set up all around the land, which had been a large parking lot. Archeologists are digging and sifting the soil daily, weather permitting. This time of year, it is still winter, and rain and snow, are expected to continue to fall until mid May. The Columbus burial site has been well known about since the 1950s. However back then, there little or no interest in seeing what was under the ground. Discoveries of human bones, are being documented, and will eventually be re-buried in a graveyard south of the city. Students of archeology will be conducting DNA testing of the remains, to try establish the identity of the people buried there.
Davett53...if the people who occupied the site predated the establishment of Columbus (1804), why do you refer to them as “earliest citizens of Columbus, Ohio”. This sort of purposely emotive twaddle characterizes so much communication in America. Hyperbole, inaccuracy, superficiality all combine to obscure the true facts, which should speak for themselves.
Davett53 - I should add that your spelling needs attention. You mean “indigenous peoples”, not “people’s “.
@@judeirwin2222 I'm not a not an expert and I don't think I understand your point. The bones are from people who were living in Columbus, before it was officially known as Columbus, is how I understand it. Or were the early inhabitants,....not the earliest ones, though. Do you look to every person's post for complete and thorough information? I just wanted to point out archeological digs are happening in lots of cities. It is a fascinating topic, others are welcome to dig deeper,...(pun intended). Thank you for your comments.
@@judeirwin2222 I will have to fix that, my spell check, didn't catch that. What are you? The comment police? or a troll?
@@Davett53 what I look at, ignore or respond to is my choice and requires no justification. I didn't expect you to be "an expert", just capable of separating fact from fancy. And to count people whose lives preceded the foundation of a town among "its earliest citizens" is clearly fanciful.
As someone who labored then surveyed in the dirt for over 20 years I can tell you that history, including pottery, wood, stone, and other artifacts of archeological significance exists almost everywhere. I have dug in the middle of forests and found pottery. I have dug under original buildings to find stone foundation walls. My uncle Larry dug under downtown salt lake city and found entire ancient rooms. I am not trying to downplay the historical significance of this sight but only point out that we live and build amongst the rubble of many ancient civilizations. While we must be diligent to preserve and learn what we can, we must also live, build and be free to construct civilizations of our own. It's a balance.
Way too reasonable buddy!
In the Middle East everywhere you stand you have 20 layers of ancient civilizations under your feet. Does it mean we can't build there anything? These guys should curb their enthusiasm:)
What you really mean is that the developer's right to get even richer trumps every other aspect of human existence......
@@larrymartin858, emanate domain it or let them be. If it’s not worth it, it’s not worth it.
@@larrymartin858 The developer has the same right to get rich as you? Do you realise you’re house could be standing on an ancient site of historical importance? Better move out and tear it down, just in case.
incredible, i've stayed at a hotel adjacent to that site and never would have imagined.
Anywhere along Florida's coast or rivers you will find artifacts, and evidence of settlements. I've been a native Floridian my entire life, and can say for certain that along any coastline, or waterway, if you know what your looking for, a person can find artifacts and evidence of ancient cultures within a few hours at most. Usually it doesn't take more than about half an hour.
About 40 miles north of me there is a place on a small river that Texas A+M's archeology dept. has been diving for the last several years, and they claim they have evidence that dates the site back 14,000 years. There is a few videos they made here on CZcams somewhere, but I can't remember what they are named.
Can I ask what you would be looking for along the waterway?
Why so vague what’s the place dummy?
This is an amazing find for the history of the region. I hope that the community can be rallied to preserve and study this site.
Yeah, well, it's in Florida, so... shows you the real point of hope...
nobody cares. They're all dead. Document the stuff and build the site.
@@seand.g423 10 million ex New Yorkers agree.
@@wyomarine6341 Exactly right.
@@wyomarine6341. Very well put and I agree with you 100%.
The best thing to happen in that situation is to take a look, have a con-flag with the bosses, keep it contained (quiet) and then proceed to build your high rise imo. Don’t let anyone try to be a hero. It’s just vanity anyways and all sorts of weirdo’s are going to come out of nowhere as experts and shut you down.
After it’s all built up you have a secret story to tell your grand kids.
Truth be known your house is probably built on a historical site if you go back far enough.
1st floor of building should be a museum.
It's such a contrast of native and natural history with modern metropolitan skyscrapers. Very interesting.
Every new discovery re-writes our history and there are so many people in power that don't want it changed.
Love archeology ❤
I'm pretty old, let's get together.
@@DaveTan65 Hahaha...
@@DaveTan65 lol
Man said corporate citizens...because the u.s. is a corporation and we are citizens of a corporation, not a country.
Ruled by the new kings of the Capitalist Corporate Industrial Complex.
Yes, we the corporations of America and the only value is $. Sure this will end well.
I'm going to take a long ride in my vessel and think about this
I currently live on a Civil War battleground, underneath that is Indian Village, underneath that who knows.
There’s always remnants of a civilization before, that doesn’t mean that you stop progress.
And if it had been a family owned business, you'd be screaming for imminent domain.
America needs a "Time Team". This site is amazing. Thanks so much for posting.
It would be nice to show some of the artifacts they have found there.
The two people unearthed in the Bradenton area inside a shell mound were carbon dated to be 7000 years old. DNA tested to be caucasian. Who knew?
I'm interested in this, do you have a name for a video or an article on it?
I'm sure universities would be reluctant publish this information for political reasons.
This could be an amazing opportunity for some brilliant creative design and construction of the building mounted over the site. It would be more expensive and trickier so the State should offset the extra expense...Ultimately the site would be a ground-floor museum.
They should just invoke eminent domain and take the land.
I agree with the creative design . That would be a win-win for everyone.
Agreed! The entire site covered with a glass ceiling that can be walked on by the occupants of the building, or tourist, while the work can continue. The dig would never be hindered by the weather and the city and/or state could give the owners a tax break. Where to place utilities for the building would probably be the most expensive engineering.
@@weebermannsfolly2580 WOW. Oh, yes!
If whatever they built over it had a glass floor, people could watch them actually working...could be really fascinating.......
Beautiful Advanced Native Civilization.... THANK YOUUUU 💞 ♥️
The developers don't even have to sacrifice their building, just devote part of the bottom floor to being an archeological dig site/museum.
It works as a tourist attraction, you don't dig up problems - you dig up opportunities!
You have experience with doing this? Nah, didn't think so.
It’s all always about $$$$ no matter what the subject is🤦🏻♀️
Zuzu's Petals: Jimmy Stewart fan?
Yes. Does money have no significance in your day to day life? Like if you had none, everything in your life would stay exactly the same? You have no bills, your life costs nothing, no home, etc? I somehow doubt it.
now they can say their condo is built on an ancient burial ground
Just plain wrong that stuff like this is happening on sacred grounds in Florida. Too much development and should not be for sale.
Sacrilege. We live in a time in society where history is being destroyed on the altar of "progress". Developers build these soulless cookie cutter condos. Despicable!
Thinking of the movie Poltergeist now
It’s happened in Hawaii, like, a lot. One would think restrictions like those under NAGPRA would prevent this but money talks I guess.
@@ajeezy8775 Especially in a place like Miami.
There is so much incredible, very ancient history to be discovered in North America.
So sad that this history is being lost to corporate greed. This history is soooooo important!
It's called private property. It's the same right you have to your property.
This was an incredible discovery. Right at the Southern mouth of the river. The huge Indian mounds of burials & quahog (now extinct) shells were bulldozed to make Dixie Highway so the Flagler RR could be built from West Palm Beach. I've located many of the mounds in S. Florida. I can always tell when I'm on a burial mound. An overwhelming feeling of get off comes over me. Most are midden (kitchen waste) mounds. I don't tell people about those. From the keys to Dade the Tequesta, Further north in Boca the Jeaga, then the big tribe the Ais aka Jece aka Ays on Prang Island and near a Spanish Galleon silver fleet wreck site in 1715. 1 of 11 that year. 🐥
sounds pretty cool
What is “feeling of get off”? Since when are quahogs “extinct”? Do you mean a species related to the quahogs of New England that once thrived in what is now Florida, but have since gone extinct? Your entire comment is so incomprehensible that it should be held up as an example of how poor communication by an educated person may work against them and their goals when dealing with the general public. Consider that. Refresh your command of the English language. That might help you in your battles against apathy and corporate resistance.
Wow, that sounds so cool love this kind of stuff
@@judeirwin2222your attitude is horrendous
@@TheDogGoesWoof69 ... when we forget the past, we're destined to repeat it.
I’m with you on saving this site best they can it’s important to have physical history. And it should be respected. Build around it or incorporate it like other cities have done. I mean if they must have this piece of land and I get the want to live right there. I’ve been to Miami and that part of the city, it’s rather nice. However this historical find isn’t something one comes across often. And it could Be important. Hope they can work together on a good solution for this
You think this area (or any area) of Miami is “rather nice”? The entire urban sprawl is a festering pustule.
I agree that it would be nice if the archaeologists could work with the builders to find a solution. It's unfortunate to see archaeologists who are smug, entitled, and arrogant that see builders as 'the enemy'.
@@judeirwin2222
Agreed, as a native floridian I am enraged at how much natural beauty they've paved over, at least there's the irony of all the hotels, resorts, malls, and golf courses getting battered by climate change strengthened hurricanes over the coming century.
@@judeirwin2222it was nice 20-25 years ago and since then the population has exploded and turned the whole city into a cesspool.
Yeah document it, take pictures, show the relics and say wow...this is neat. Now, let's build new stuff.
Im glad we’re learning about the ancient culture of Miami and the Tequetsa tribe. Can’t believe they put a septic tank there
The Miami Circle was an important site apparently to seafarers in the ancient past. It sheds light on archeoastronomy that we haven’t seen in modern times. Sites like this are all over the Earth. The creatures depicted there are unique to the astronomical record.
Have to wonder how much was destroyed or lost from previous building Downtown. It's getting way to crowded here! Been here since 1970! I've seen it when we had farming just outside our neighborhood and pine trees as far as you could see! I miss how it used to be!
One day it was a nice sunny 75°F day low humidity and my wife commented I wish it could be like this all the time. My comment was, "yah, but then everybody would want to live here".
People are moving to FL instead of staying put and bringing back their constitutional Republic.
Miami is not even Florida anymore
They should make observation platforms of the dig, where people are able to talk with archeology students about some of the newest things being found. Maybe this way, having the Dig is more profitable or at least, net positive in the meantime.
What "BANK" do You represent...always about the "Money" ... for the Tribe.
That's wonderful!
Sooooo freaking AWESOME!!
"Pave a paradise, and put up a parking lot". 🎵
Where do you live? In a teepee in the woods?
Just imagine how much of such cites is lost in all U.S. last 200 years. 😓
I was in construction for 40 years, anytime we found an arrow head or a bone, we would throw it in the trash. We found an old skull once, we dug a hole with the excavator, threw it in the bottom and crushed it. Not holding up living people for dead ones.
What a beautiful area!
This site is a treasure and should be treated as such
The Governor of the State needs to step in and build up the archeological site like that of Egypt and other countries. If you build it, the tourists will come. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
DeSantis? Don't hold your breath.
This is mind blowing 🤯
Currently cutting edge archeology agrees that the Americas we settled up to 22,000 years ago. We can potentially double that date but the majority of the older sites are underwater because back then the shore line was around 2 miles out from where it is now.
This is another example that the United States was built ignoring the cultures that existed before the anglos arrival, if they came across traces of previous civilizations in
Their Solutrean ancestors were here on the East before the Clovis arrived through Alaska on the west and killed all of them...Windover Pond holds the proof...
Did you know Florida was Spanish territory until 1819?
@@Dee0336 And the Colonial Governors were also the Governors of Cuba...And that before the Clovis crossed in through Alaska the Solutreans were already here...In windover Pond...
That has been happening all over the world for 10 thousand years. Civilization built on top of the previous Civilization.
It's nothing new.
America is the true Old World
If that tiny portion have such sites, why wouldn't the entire Miami area have them too? The entire United States are filled with history that if the artifacts, skelletons of giants, lost technology, stories and traditions passed down generations are to be taken seriously, our current understanding of antropology would have to be rewritten. Those things should be studies and preserved, but have equal compensation to the current investors of the property to be fair.
This is fantastic.
7000 years is amazing Blow my mind
I was digging in my back yard and I swear - every shovel full had billions of years of history in it!
Thanks!
Yw
They shouldn't be allowed to build there at all! It looks so nice open and should be preserved!
That close to sea level, may as well build on stilts over the site and let the dig continue. It'll be necessary soon enough.
The earth is only 6000 years old but that's a cool find. It's a learning journey and a record of what once was.
you sound worried your bible stories dont add up , archaeology destroys your silly old book of fantasy stories.
It is a rare opportunity that must be taken advantage of
I've never been to Miami and have no plans ever to go. There's absolutely nothing left there to see, anyway. Nothing but buildings and concrete. Might as well be Dubai. Very sad to have such ancient history in North America right there to study but society places more value on The Money.
You’re confused… 😂 Dubai wish it was Miami. 🇺🇸
Isn't Miami named after the Miami tribe. It was a native American tribe that lived there and when Spain settled Miami; they moved all the MIami tribe up north.
Miami, FL was named tribe related to the Tequesta, who in turn were named after the Miami River, which actually derives from the Tequesta name for Lake Okeechobee (literally meaning "big water"). It's just a coincidence that an unrelated tribe in the Midwest (primarily present-day Ohio) was also called Miami, though one wonders if the spelling of the Florida city was influenced by Midwestern immigrants (an alternate spelling for the Florida Miami people is "Mayaimi").
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayaimi
@@andyjay729 thanks for letting me know
That’s amazing, I hope the developers do the right thing.
On the other hand, the worst nightmare for a contractor...an archaeological site!
The whole area was built over. Now they are delaying this build. There probably is not much left given the previous construction in that area over decades.
Interesting history in this region. As long ago , there are still some that do not want that history known real well.
To them it is just old nonsense, there is money to be made today.
Heart breaking..
Glorious!!
Forget the contract with the developer when it comes to finding archaeological sites. These archaeological sites should be preserved.
This is fascinating. I had no idea. It's sad to see it all covered back up. I know some has to be, but there should be some balance. It would be nice to see the analysis funded to completion.
How do You expect (((THEM))) to properly write History for the Public Schools if they let people investigate..sheesh.....The ones that write History control the future...
This is not only history of that small space it is history of the world. This is why we can't have nice things.
Why couldn't they make the ground floor a public museum with see-through floors for people to look at the archeological building foundations and view the artifacts. An admission fee could even fund research into researching it further.
The city should propose a bond to pay the developer to properly study the site. Put it up to a vote and let the citizens decide. That will determine if society wants to know more about this ancient civilization or if they want the immediate revenue of another high rise complex.
Just invoke eminent domain.
Oh please, new civilizations have always built atop old ones. The layers and layers of archeology you can find anywhere in the Mediterranean is astounding.
You have the privilege of blaming people in modern times because you have a tiny microphone to do so.
Not everybody instantly thinks of the past while building the future, especially people on this page.
@@vladimirofsvalbard9477 Wow, I didn't know luxury hotels were the future. I guess the past really is stupid and should be ignored for the sake of the convenience of the 1%.
@@vladimirofsvalbard9477 We have the privilege of blaming modern people because archaeology is a modern science. People in the past thought all of mankind's history was in books. It took a special few to go looking for the truth behind the legends and find our history in the ground. For a young science, it has taught us important things about ourselves and our history.
This rewrites our history books.
Yeah, I think DeSatan already did that all on his own.
@@matthewmcinnis4565 probably a bunch of Freemasons. History is just a collection of lies agreed upon.
Don't tell DeSantis!
@@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence 👈🤡
@@Annie-xh2dt no doubt good thing the Bible wasn't printed on hundred-dollar bills. You'd have to be a republican to be allowed to be Christian. Well it's kind of that way where I live now.
This is amazing!!! What a find!!!! Exciting news!!! Imagine what we will learn!!! This man is correct, this should be preserved!! Would it possible to build elevated and not a high rise??? How about naming this site after the builder???? They would go down in history...
In Miami less than 20 yrs ago a corporation was raising a building and found remains of Mayan civilization, the news attracted media attention and mathematicians from a university predicted where exactly to find more remains, time passed and no more was heard about the matter
Love visiting archaeological sites but only if there is something to see. Even hardly visited and little known sites in Mexico offer so much more. Remember when the Miami Circle was left abandoned for just a couple of weeks, the grass and weeds covered everything.
How does the City of Miami and the State of Florida allow the development of this site that should be designated a world historical site ?
Good question for the ignorant governor, If he ban books, he gonna ban our ancient history too.
A couple boxes of broken pottery and shells doesn't amount to a world historical site.
@@nobodyspecial4702 it’s older than the pyramids which are considered one of the greatest wonders of the world
Real history is TOO WOKE. We all have to pretend that a bunch of top heavy rich dudes with man titties are the best of the best. The Woke Crusades!!!!!
@@nobodyspecial4702even a few antique objects mean something.
I've stayed in amazing high rises with Roman structures underneath. You can build just 1 floor above this and have a cool attraction underneath
This history is of great importance to America. The developers could benefit greatly if this history was incorporated into their construction. Museum restaurant area for instance , could be a big attraction.
Its ridiculous the corruption down here in Miami just let's the rich do whatever they want. I am telling everyone about this since I heard about it only a couple of weeks ago, when this should be a discovery that should have been documented and celebrated as a find completely changing the way we thought Miami was inhabited. This city is completely different from when I was a kid and has only changed for the worse.
I agree 💯
Yes. Let's take all the money from the productive people. Without recompense, so we can do whatever we want. Don't give the productive people any say in what happens with their land, their money, their productivity.
@@glennnile7918be honest. By "productive" you mean the money-addicted, power-addicted exploiters and sociopaths. They "produce" pollution, and monuments to their egos, destroy the cultures that nurtured them, and lead lives of gluttony and self-absorption.
Thank Republicans!
@@Cheeseburger.Launch.Sequence For what? Erecting buildings?
One ounce of historic artifact is worth more than any high rise.
I noticed my cat would only use the front side of the litter box. Upon a closer look, she was preserving the ancient clumps from a previous society. The clumps were aligned with the Orions Belt star system 😮The site is now occupied by a team of researchers from all over the world. I took a photo of what seems to be a set of crop circles no human could recreate with its bare paws.
One solution I have seeen in Germany and Cancun is to build over the dig, where it remains accessible through the basement.
Yeah. as a builder myself, they should have just moved the new construction down the road. Your not building anything that has to be on this piece of land. Finding out true history of our country is more important than the next hotel with three layers of parking. State should have stepped in on this.
Such a shame that the people go for profit than history…this can be sorted out by building a makeshift museum inside the development site and make it a place of significant importance…it can be a feature of this place and could draw thousands of people to the place…hopefully they could get into an agreement with this…such a great find
Is there any way to build up and around the dig where the owners have their building but the ground floor remains an archeological dig?
The city does not have to buy it back from the developer. They can claim eminent domain, meaning if the government needs this land for "x" reason, it does not matter what reason, they can claim the land theirs.
Pave the planet
Why can't they elevate the building so that the archeologists can continue at the right pace?