Yamaha YSL-448G Tenor Trombone Review
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2020
- Yamaha offers a wide range of tenor trombone options from beginning student to top-end professional. While the pro horns get discussed more often sometimes intermediate-level offerings, like the YSL-448G, sometimes get missed but deserve more attention; while it is built with a different player in mind it still has the Yamaha quality, consistency and playability that many trombonists have grown to love! Check out my full review of the YSL-448G and let me know what you think!
Find out more about the YSL-448G at usa.yamaha.com/products/music... - Hudba
I think Keith sounds amazing in this video. Could be the horn, but I attribute it to the gloves.
A little of both I think! Just trying to be as hygienic as possible during these times!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShopI assumed that the gloves were to keep acid and sweat from getting all over a new horn.
I played a Bach 42B until I was a junior in high school, then I asked my parents to buy me a custom-built Edwards with a Thayer valve and all the bells and whistles. A completely wide-open horn. That thing was basically a tuba, and really never gave me the kind of feel I liked. And I played that into college. Lol. More open is not always better. I could have saved my parents a bunch of money and just bought a Yamaha pro horn in 7th grade. Lol. They play absolutely beautifully. So consistent, so homogenous in sound, all the resistance you need (or lack thereof, if you want). In hindsight, I’d have bought a Yamaha horn and stuck with it. They play like a dream. I was always really opposed to playing a Yamaha horn because I felt like they were “cheap” horns. That was dumb. Really dumb. Lol. Also, hats off on your tone and playing ability!
Thanks for watching! We have found that many players are moving in this same direction, "more open is not always better." For us it is always about what the right fit is for the individual and more and more lately huge, wide-open instruments are not always the fit...
I bought one for my 31st birthday present to myself. I was playing on a King 605 Small Bore Tenor Trombone with F attachment. I also double on bass trombone. I have a Conn 83H Bass Trombone with an Elkhart Indiana Bell Swap. I also own a knock-off of a King 7B Bass Trombone. My new Yamaha YSL-448G should be here sometime next week. I'm beyond excited.
I hope you enjoy it!
Looks and sounds like a great horn and you play beautifully Keith! I've always played on Yamahas but on standard tenor trombones without an F attachment though! I currently play on a YSL 630 trombone which has a .525 bore
WOW!! beautiful sounds
Thank you very much for watching!
Thank you too
I’ve got one for those times I need a .547. I added a Greenhoe Brace to the lower slide bow and it fixed a lot of those projection and centering issues.
Very interesting; thank you for sharing!
Nice review! How about YSL620? Im insterested in that instrument too. Would you like to make some opinion abou How different between 448G and YSL620. Thank you😁
would it be possible to do a review solely on the YSL-882O?
Hi Keith,What era is your 5G? , I have one with Large Capital lettering,I feel it's is bigger than the corp.5Gs and also the latest ones ,I think the large letter Bachs were made with new machines before the factory fire 🔥 do you know what I mean ?
I think you got the different wraps mixed up, I saw videos of this exact horn and a pro horn similar to this one and they had the exact same style of wrap. I think that specific wrap is known as a semi-open wrap where it's just not as tight as the closed wrap that you see on a standard conn 88h or Bach 42b, so a semi-open wrap is somewhere in between a fully closed and fully open wrap. Not to get confused between a closed wrap and a semi open wrap
I'm considering getting this or the 446 as my first trombone. (Finally, in my mid-40s, after wanting to start playing the instrument at the age of eight but being told my arms were too short... smh... grrr....) I have experience in trumpet and my alto saxophone is an intermediate level horn. Is this (or the 446) a good one to start with?
The 446G has a .525" bore and the 448G has a .547 (both have the F attachment). These models are intermediate trombones. If you have good air control go with the 448G. Also it depends what you want to play, for example jazz, classical, etc... If you want to play jazz I'd recommend you the 446G or even a smaller bore. If you don't want to break the bank I'd recommend you the Yamaha YSL-354 which is a student model but is a great horn, very well built and with a great sound. Or if you want a pro trombone consider the YSL-620/640. Check on Reverb if you want to buy it used. Good luck 👍🎵🎶
How did you record the playing? Where was the microphone, and what was it?
Since ITF 2020 was cancelled this year, is ITF 2021 still going to be held in Osaka?
That's a great question! I know they were already planning on 2021 in Nashville and I haven't heard yet if they are making alternate plans. I will keep watching and put the word out if I see updates!
Is the 445 slide(525) avaliable on 447 bell? I have a 447 and need to play it also with a 525 slide. Can I buy only the slide ? Thank you so much. Hallo
Hello!
I had a schilke 50. What do you recommend for this trombone, a bach 5g or 5gs?
I am looking for a dark sound but one that I can play hight easily😬
I await your response, I love your videos!
Thanks for your comment! My recommendation would depend on instrument you are playing on, what settings you are playing in and what you are experiencing with your Schilke. The 5G is going to be more similar to your 50 but with a slightly different air compression (Schilkes tend to be relatively open in their throat and back bore) while the 5GS is going to have a more compact throat/backbone from the 5G, which may aid the upper register but could have an impact on timbre and overall response…
Can you do a review on a King 607/608F if you have one?
Thanks for the suggesting! I don't typically have the King 607/608's in the shop but if I have one cross my path I will absolutely grab of review of it!
So I have listened to several reviews of this trombone and in some cases I think it sounds better than its big brother the YSL-882, and chance of a blindfolded test to see if there is any placebo effect going on?
The next time we have this model come through I'll see what I can do! Thanks for watching!
Any chance of doing a review of the Pro-Model Yamaha Bass Trombone??
He has one for the xeno 830 but not the 822g sadly
The YBL-822G is unfortunately not one we typically have in the shop; I actually spoke with Yamaha about this model a few months ago and they said that it seems to be a popular show horn (ATW, ITF, TMEA, etc.) but they never seem to sell in stores...With that said, if I can ever put hands on one you can bet a review will follow!
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop Would love to see and hear a review of this model. I have been fascinated by the model for years, but have yet to see one in person in any place I have been. I don't even know anyone who has played one either much less own one. They must be Yamaha's best kept secret.
I play with a ysl640 in my band
I’ve played trombone for almost 8 years but I’ve only ever used a small bore trombone. Would this trombone be a good idea to get as a junior in high school, or should I save some more money and get something else?
The YSL - 448G could certainly be an option depending on how you play and what your future playing aspirations are; what are you hoping to do with your Trombone playing in high school and beyond? Depending on your thoughts I may have some other insights; feel free to reply here or email the shop at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com :)
@@SchmittMusicTromboneShop in high school I’m going to keep doing jazz and concert band, but I also am now joining another jazz band and I go to a symphonic band camp every summer, after high school I hope to do more jazz stuff mostly, or what ever can get me some money and is available
Faça o Review do Yamaha 446G ou do YSL-640 por favor.
The next time I have one of these in the shop I will make sure to grab a video!
Is there any maintenance required on the trigger or valve?
While valves don't need a ton of maintenance there is some regular oiling that helps significantly with overall performance and longevity. We have a number of maintenance videos on our channel, such as czcams.com/video/WKO-bWUJYaw/video.html...
What’s a good price for one of these in 2024?
Brand new these are priced at $2352; if you can find one used I would expect something in the $1200 range to be reasonable if in good condition. Just in case you were interested we don’t have this exact model in stock at the moment but would always be able to talk about possibilities…
I have a Yamaha 356g, I’m gonna get a 448g or a Yamaha Zeno series 882go
I think they are both good options for different reasons! While budget is of course something to consider I would also think about your current and future playing needs and, of course, highly recommend getting to try both if possible. Feel free to email me at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com and I am happy to discuss options further if you like!
Schmitt Music Trombone Shop do you plan on reviewing the trombone model I currently have anytime soon?
Does this take a large shank or small shank?
large one
I have a conn 88HKCL that’s over 4K and there isn’t any difference between this horn and that. If you want a new horn for a good price I would go with this.
I would agree that it is a great value for the price! With that said, I would have to confess that for me personally I might take the 88HKCL but every players approach and needs are different!
This is actually so weird lol, I open up youtube and see this as I was unboxing the one I just got
That's amazing! How is your 448G playing for you thus far?
I am an idiot. It took me 30 minutes to figure out that he was still playing the Yamaha, not a Bach. “ i’m going to be playing all of this on a Bach 5G,” means the mouthpiece, not the trombone! 🤦🏻♂️
I played the instrument myself for the better time of 5 years. I think that when I first got it it was a good instrument, but today I don't like much anymore. I think that the sound is a little small and doesn't has the thickness that I'm searching. All in all I think the instrument is well build but doesn't sound verry good!
It certainly has a place but your experience also makes sense; is there a particular sound or response you were looking for now?