for those who are saying that I stole someone's video, come on. first of all, this video is not from anyone but from Dragonforce. if someone posted the video earlier than me, that person has no rights over the video, even because it was not that person who recorded it. unless that person owns dragonforce, i will continue to post the videos that i find on CZcams here on my channel. if you don't like bite your back :)
truth. the guy commented below: thanks for stealing MT video. "hahahahah the only job he had was to download the video on his channel, he didn't record anything, I doubt if he participated in the show in any way. he doesn't own the video, therefore, he cannot impose who can or cannot download on CZcams, period. very well commented @Edgar Varão
The reason I'm angry about this, is because I'm a trader of rare dragonforce shows. I put around 10 hours a week in searching for other traders with rare recordings, even investing money in obtaining some of them etc. It kind of stings if you just take a video I put a lot of effort in to get by building a network of people and trading stuff. It's a really big fuck you to all the effort put in, and you get all the credit for it, which in my opinion isn't fair. That's all. But thank all of you for the very mature and insightful comments. I will continue trading and actually working for my content
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use??? There's not copyright there is no problem!
Don't lie to anyone, I don't mind reuploads as long as credits are given but there were not. Rayman was the one to actually find it after the longest time, and your entire god damned channel is just reuploads and I particularly remember that because I watched your channel for a couple years now. Where else did you get the video, and do you actually have the masterfile?
Wait. Clicktrack is a bad thing now? I'm pretty sure they've been playing to a click for many many years. At those BPM's you really don't wanna fall or rise in tempo. It's absolutely essential. And don't hate on backingtracks because "iTs nOt rEaL mEtAl". That excuse is so tired and dead
@@passionoflovers Its not that it isn't real metal... its just that it is bullsht music. People have talked sht about milly vanilly for decades because of how weak it is to fake your music live.
@@passionoflovers They started playing to a click in 2008. It's more of a vibe thing. When you play without a click, everyone is playing together as a band to stay in sync. With a click, everyone is following the computer to stay in sync
@HalfDuck and just how terrible were their live performances before 2008, again? Dragonforce is not about groove and feeling. It's not a blues band. They're about precision and playing as accurately and tight as possible. There is so much stuff going on at all times, and if they're not locked down to a click, everything goes to shit. Again.. pre-2008 Dragonforce was called Studioforce for a reason.
@@passionoflovers Yeah I 100% agree, for a band like this the click works great. DragonForce absolutely kinda suck without click guidance, and it's hilarious, I could watch it all day. Dream Theater were way better without a click though
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use??? There's not copyright there is no problem!
@@Derrick-1209Ive talked to Rayman myself he literally bootlegs a lot of DF concerts and Rayman uploaded it on his channel but got taken down by DF. This guy never bootleged crap and all he did was just use an mp4 and steal it from him like the thug he is
He is not bad he is just no match for Marc. I mean especially in this performance ZPs voice breaks away several times. In other ones where he is sober it is oc not THAT bad like in this. But Marc got a lot more power in his voice and he can nail and hold the high notes for ages which ZP just simply can't. It's not like ZP is hated he is just not as good as Marc
@@kuroikaelric120agreed that Marc is a better vocalist but you just cant beat ZPs stage presance and generall vibe. Marc often feels kina bland on stage even though he sings very well while if ZP was on stage all eyes were on him
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use??? There's not copyright there is no problem!
@@Derrick-1209 I am not looking for attention. My upload got taken down by the band about 4 months ago, which is their full right to do. But when it was still up, he took it from my channel. Before I uploaded it, no one had it because it was just in select metal traders circles. The uploader even admitted to it earlier, so I don't know why you are only now commenting on me. And yes, I don't own the copyright. In that regard I was about as wrong as this person is. What stung me was, when I uploaded it, he immediately uploaded it to leach views, while he had put 0 effort in obtaining this video I and a few other traders worked hard for to get.
@@israelgomez5722 Have you heard of this little thing called a pandemic? Life has been good for me, so no need to worry. But hey, without people doing this, not just me, you would have never seen this material yourself. You don't have to respect me for it, not at all, but please think before typing. This and a lot of videos wouldn't have been online for the masspublic to see if it weren't for traders like GenericDragonForceFan. And the fact that you commented clearly means you are as interested in this stuff as we are.
@@kardia.1714 Still think the same, I think his voice was unique for power metal, it was just not like all the others, still think that he doesn't have such a technique as marc has, Still love them both, I wouldn't be able to choose one of them even if I needed to
@@paradoxolli3010 I believe that if he went into some less melodic sub-genre of metal, he would do much better! I like his voice on the albums but live leaves a lot to be desired. Now Marc has a clean voice and super high, perfect for power metal
@@kardia.1714 But, it depends, there are a lot of live shows were he really sings amazingly, sounds really similar to studio without loosing a natural sound, like the 2005 fury of the storm, he sounds amazing, he ruined his voice, well, at least he started sounding worse when he started really having a less controled voice care, smoking, drinking, probably partying a lot, there's where the problem started
They sound great, tf yo mean Batman profile pic lmao. Yeah it's not perfect but this song is fucking nuts, of course it's not gonna sound exactly like the studio recording
Back when DragonForce was a real metal band. Now they're just making cheesy songs about video games. Warp Speed Warrior sucks so much, it does'nt even sounds like DF anymore. Really disappointing...
i could get over the guitarists not being capable of playing their sped up record, but the singer just phoning it in like that? nah fam. yall lost so many fans during this period for a good reason.
for those who are saying that I stole someone's video, come on. first of all, this video is not from anyone but from Dragonforce. if someone posted the video earlier than me, that person has no rights over the video, even because it was not that person who recorded it. unless that person owns dragonforce, i will continue to post the videos that i find on CZcams here on my channel. if you don't like bite your back :)
VERY WELL COMMENTED, NO RETARDED INTERNET HAS THE RIGHTS ON DRAGONFORCE'S VIDEOS IF NOT THE BAND AND THE RECORDER, THAT'S IT 👏👏👏✋
truth. the guy commented below: thanks for stealing MT video. "hahahahah the only job he had was to download the video on his channel, he didn't record anything, I doubt if he participated in the show in any way. he doesn't own the video, therefore, he cannot impose who can or cannot download on CZcams, period. very well commented @Edgar Varão
The reason I'm angry about this, is because I'm a trader of rare dragonforce shows. I put around 10 hours a week in searching for other traders with rare recordings, even investing money in obtaining some of them etc. It kind of stings if you just take a video I put a lot of effort in to get by building a network of people and trading stuff. It's a really big fuck you to all the effort put in, and you get all the credit for it, which in my opinion isn't fair. That's all. But thank all of you for the very mature and insightful comments. I will continue trading and actually working for my content
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention
Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use???
There's not copyright there is no problem!
Don't lie to anyone, I don't mind reuploads as long as credits are given but there were not. Rayman was the one to actually find it after the longest time, and your entire god damned channel is just reuploads and I particularly remember that because I watched your channel for a couple years now.
Where else did you get the video, and do you actually have the masterfile?
This was the real DragonForce :")
@@WhoAmI-ff5pf vocal dah ganti katanya?
Not gonna lie, his vocals sound like shit and are weak as fuck
@@muhammadmuhlisinhalid351 udah ganti lama awal2 tahun 2012 an, si drummer dave juga udah keluar lama, baru2 ini bassis nya si fred juga resign
They were too drunk and sounded like shit live. They are way better live now
kalo herman li keluar. bubar udah wkwk
Not his best performance but that dude has a wonderful voice when he's at his best.
Dragon Force's new singer is always more on point life.
@@franktranks9445 Yeah but his voice sucks
@@cole6122 ig it's just down to personal preference. I like his voice
So glad they got so much better after this tour
Damn, can't believe that Rayman actually went to Brazil
Br
No backing tracks, no click track, real live keyboards :)
Wait. Clicktrack is a bad thing now?
I'm pretty sure they've been playing to a click for many many years. At those BPM's you really don't wanna fall or rise in tempo. It's absolutely essential.
And don't hate on backingtracks because "iTs nOt rEaL mEtAl". That excuse is so tired and dead
@@passionoflovers Its not that it isn't real metal... its just that it is bullsht music. People have talked sht about milly vanilly for decades because of how weak it is to fake your music live.
@@passionoflovers They started playing to a click in 2008. It's more of a vibe thing. When you play without a click, everyone is playing together as a band to stay in sync. With a click, everyone is following the computer to stay in sync
@HalfDuck and just how terrible were their live performances before 2008, again?
Dragonforce is not about groove and feeling. It's not a blues band. They're about precision and playing as accurately and tight as possible. There is so much stuff going on at all times, and if they're not locked down to a click, everything goes to shit. Again.. pre-2008 Dragonforce was called Studioforce for a reason.
@@passionoflovers Yeah I 100% agree, for a band like this the click works great. DragonForce absolutely kinda suck without click guidance, and it's hilarious, I could watch it all day.
Dream Theater were way better without a click though
Everything is just better with Dragonforce nowadays. Sounds better live with Marc Hudson and they aren't drunk
Que pena que ele saiu da banda...faz falta😢
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Drunken forceeee full poweeeeeer 🤩👽🤯
do you have Loud Park 08 Vol. 1 CD? they have Heroes Of Our Time live version here :O
He doesn’t as he had to steal this video from me aswell😂
That also is not a live version. It’s the single edit of Heroes of our Time🙂
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention
Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use???
There's not copyright there is no problem!
@@Derrick-1209Ive talked to Rayman myself he literally bootlegs a lot of DF concerts and Rayman uploaded it on his channel but got taken down by DF. This guy never bootleged crap and all he did was just use an mp4 and steal it from him like the thug he is
The drummer is like a fucking raging bull in a China shop hahaha
3:09 i spoted a Children of Bodom shirt lol
I didn't knew @raymanlegend had a brasilian account
😂😂😂
The lack of ability for ZP to hold a long note like in the studio version of the song hurts to listen to ngl
Where does the hate against ZP comes from that he can't sing live? I think he sounds great.
I haven't found a single video where ZP sounds bad
This this sounds like shit maybe if he didn't smoke he'd sound better live in fact he sounds better nowadays but Jesus marc was the right replacement
He is not bad he is just no match for Marc. I mean especially in this performance ZPs voice breaks away several times. In other ones where he is sober it is oc not THAT bad like in this. But Marc got a lot more power in his voice and he can nail and hold the high notes for ages which ZP just simply can't. It's not like ZP is hated he is just not as good as Marc
@@kuroikaelric120agreed that Marc is a better vocalist but you just cant beat ZPs stage presance and generall vibe. Marc often feels kina bland on stage even though he sings very well while if ZP was on stage all eyes were on him
esses cara são agressivo... aí sim meu patrão
sem efeito de estúdio na guitarra e na voz do frontman fica uma merda
@@Ryan_Oliveira01 o cara q trocaram no meu gosto ficou muito melhor no vocal
ZP🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Grande grupo esse vocalista um dos melhores nao sei porque saiu
I prefer ZP Theart in the vocals than Hudson
When MTV was cool
Rayman is Brazilian confirmed??!?!?!??!!
Brazilian RaymanLegend be like
Guitars out of tune
entire band is out of tune.
This video is a gold mine.
Shows how the band was just Marketing for Guitar Hero.
1:53 why do the guitars sound so sharp
@@randyyaqhdan5008?
Might have been cold
Pena que ele saiu
I love DF but Every members was sucks back then honestly not only ZP.
kecepeten
where did you get this?
Stole it from my channel
@@raymanlegend8563 No he didn't you're just looking for attention
Also how the hell do you steal a video that's all over the place and it's free to use???
There's not copyright there is no problem!
@@Derrick-1209 I am not looking for attention. My upload got taken down by the band about 4 months ago, which is their full right to do. But when it was still up, he took it from my channel. Before I uploaded it, no one had it because it was just in select metal traders circles. The uploader even admitted to it earlier, so I don't know why you are only now commenting on me.
And yes, I don't own the copyright. In that regard I was about as wrong as this person is. What stung me was, when I uploaded it, he immediately uploaded it to leach views, while he had put 0 effort in obtaining this video I and a few other traders worked hard for to get.
@@raymanlegend8563 how bad does life have to be to become a trader/collector of underground Dragonforce material?
@@israelgomez5722 Have you heard of this little thing called a pandemic? Life has been good for me, so no need to worry. But hey, without people doing this, not just me, you would have never seen this material yourself. You don't have to respect me for it, not at all, but please think before typing. This and a lot of videos wouldn't have been online for the masspublic to see if it weren't for traders like GenericDragonForceFan. And the fact that you commented clearly means you are as interested in this stuff as we are.
I prefer the new singer also because he has a beauty voice.
i agree
Whenever someone tells me that ZP was better, I send them this video.
Better voice, worse technique
@@paradoxolli3010 not even this, his voice is too bad for power metal
@@kardia.1714 Still think the same, I think his voice was unique for power metal, it was just not like all the others, still think that he doesn't have such a technique as marc has, Still love them both, I wouldn't be able to choose one of them even if I needed to
@@paradoxolli3010 I believe that if he went into some less melodic sub-genre of metal, he would do much better! I like his voice on the albums but live leaves a lot to be desired. Now Marc has a clean voice and super high, perfect for power metal
@@kardia.1714 But, it depends, there are a lot of live shows were he really sings amazingly, sounds really similar to studio without loosing a natural sound, like the 2005 fury of the storm, he sounds amazing, he ruined his voice, well, at least he started sounding worse when he started really having a less controled voice care, smoking, drinking, probably partying a lot, there's where the problem started
Guitar without computer program in the studio and vocalist without auto tune
This sounds so bad compared to the new versions
Honestly, this is a very bad live :/
Guitars out of tune , drumming rushing out of coke and vocalist with his thoath about to explode trying to reach the higher notes, great show 😂👌
LMAOOOO facts. I saw them around this time with BTBAM and they were TERRRRRIBLE. Super sloppy the whole time. Glad they've gotten significantly better
A singer he ain't!
Jesus christ they sounded so horrible! From guitars to the singer wtf
@Michigan Nav there's a live posted on their channel, Idk if it's edited or not btw. But it's really good, even the new vocalist sounded better for me
They're so much better live now, I saw them earlier this year and they were really good.
At least they don't fake.
@@chillchill2779 They were always really good live...
As long as they weren't drunk.
And ZP wasn't smoking.
They sound great, tf yo mean Batman profile pic lmao. Yeah it's not perfect but this song is fucking nuts, of course it's not gonna sound exactly like the studio recording
Back when DragonForce was a real metal band. Now they're just making cheesy songs about video games. Warp Speed Warrior sucks so much, it does'nt even sounds like DF anymore. Really disappointing...
i could get over the guitarists not being capable of playing their sped up record, but the singer just phoning it in like that? nah fam. yall lost so many fans during this period for a good reason.