@@willieeasley2811 you’re right if cardboard was bad manufacturer wouldn’t put it in cardboard. It’s not like it sits on the shelf for years before you buy it? I got cardboard box demo from the 90s in my ammo cans ….no problem…
It's probably for idiots that leave their Ammo out in moist conditions, or people that store them outside in like say a garage, or shed something, where the cardboard might possibly hold some moisture. But yeah, I can't stand those guntubers just pour it all into the box where it dings and scratches the shit out of it, and Causes a type of electrolysis where the metal on metal contact makes little black spots all over the ammo.
Really nothing crazy… folks should have at minimum 1k for each caliber that they own. I only have a 9mm pistol and 2 rifles in 556. I keep at least 2k stockpiles of each. Ammo is pricy right now at around .45c a round for 556 and .23c a round for 9mm but I can go get 1k of 9mm shipped to my door for 229$ free shipping. It’s always a good investment in your security, financially and in case anything happens you’re gonna be set for a little while.
I leave mine in my ammo can with boxes of bullets so the shine of my bullets don’t go away over time my boxes rounds are 4 years old an there still brand new because I take good care of them in a box crate an in a dry cold space too store them in my gun cabinet
After 40 years of stockpiling ammo, I can say leave them in the box or don’t. It doesn’t matter as long as the environment they are stored in is consistent and not humid or too hot. Ammo lasts a surprisingly long time. I’ve had ammo from the late 80’s to early 90’s that worked just last week. Of course cheaper stuff may corrode but , feel free to store them as they come in their original boxes or cans.
@@leodoingthings1706actually, metal prices correlate to ammo prices. Also a surge of new firearms owners due to the multitude failures by our beloved government has historically made prices skyrocket and supply scarce every-single-time. Pay attention to the world around you or get left behind. You are the only one responsible for your safety.
@@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- i only have few hundred rounds at my home, and i dont see a point of owning more. I own more at range storage to not carry ammo when i go to range. But i see no point of stockpiling for 40 years. Preparing for what? i have enough ammo for everyday carry and few range trips. So what can happen tha i will need 10k rounds?
If you have good ammo cans, then everything should stay dry and won’t damage the ammo. I think the cardboard boxes help keep them organized and help me remember what brand, grain, etc i have in my cans
@@izaicslinux6961that's why I only buy one brand and shoot the same grain of bullet. I prefer to take the ammo out cuz I can store more ammo. Plus I don't have to unpack it comes in handy if you need ammo fast to reload mags. If you want to store deferent grain of bullets just buy more ammo cans. That's my opinion on the matter.
This. Loose ammo in the can is way cooler but less convenient to actually shoot most of the time, plus in boxes it’s easier to keep track of how much you shot
@@bryantbutlermfas in asthetically more pleasing to look at m8. its kinda not as impactful to see a ammo box full of smaller boxes than a ammo box filled with golden brass lol
Have had mine in the box for over 5 years and the cardboard is still crisp and dry. If you store it right then you won't have to worry about cardboard causing corrosion from moisture.
@@MrLandslide84 that's actually a great strategy. Rice is used for our electronics all the time, but ammo which would need that increase in moisture draw would really benefit.
@@MrLandslide84 dont use rice use those moisture wicking pads or silicone beads. rice doesn't really absorb moisture even if it does now you have a bunch of rice starch over your shit and it attracts bugs which will eat the cardboard
If you have a batch of ammo that is defective and ends up hurting you and or damaging your weapon knowing the batch number and manufacturer is very useful
I leave in them in the boxes. Easier to see the grain weight and bullet type. Also helps if my gun happens to like a certain ammo that way I know which brand to buy again.
@@johnfisher8401 I could but I like to store several types of ammo in one can. That way I dont have 50 cans just for one caliber. For example both my M1As like Atomic .308 ammo 168 gr HPBT but they also like other types of .308 but dont want to put all the atomic in one can and then all the others they like in to their own cans cause then I'd run out of storage space. I keep it all on designated .308 cans and then short it out inside each can by grain weight and brand.
That's basically how I shop for dog treats. I keep the box in case my picky little shit of a dog decides he likes something. Doesn't mean he'll like it next time I get it, though....
it all depends, i wouldn't exactly rely on it but yeah I've gotten old boxes of buckshot out of the barn where they had been for probably 15 years and they fired better than brand new shells . but that's not always gonna be the case. if you are storing large amounts of ammo I'd recommend a little more care
Leave them in boxes, it's an extra layer of protection, plus if you need to sell any people would rather buy ammo in original boxes than just loose. I keep all mine in boxes
Normally i agree but during covid I had for me what I considered a crap ton that I got for about $9-10 of 9mm and like $18-20 for 22lr and easily sold them for doubled what I paid for and now that ammo is back to reasonable prices I slowly buy some more to replenish
@@jarthe3 You have the disposition of a wise trader. I hope I can do business with you someday after the bombs fall and you don't end up having your skin worn by a drug addled cannibal.
I’m thinking they will get dented if they are in the back of a truck going down a rough road they go bouncing everywhere I’m for leaving them in the box.
@@Chris-fc7xk I can squish brass with my fingers, regardless the correct answer is to dump them all and put some foam filler on top of it, just to take up all the space
Depends on if the seal on those ammo cans are good and where you store them. i just switched from metal surplus style cans to plastic ones, and got rid of the cardboard boxes so I can fit more rounds per can. Also keep a reusable silica pack in each one.
The rubber gaskets on surplus USGI cans can be revived with silicone spray lube. They plump back up with a good wet coat absorbed into them over night. Just use a q-tip soaked in lube to clean the dirt off and leave a decent puddle all over the gasket without having to spray all over the lid. I'd also recommend cleaning the entire can and then appling a very light coat of oil over all the metal. Doing this has made my surplus cans last 20 years so far without a problem. Plastic boxes tend to flex the lid and lose the seal when lifted while full. You should also check to see how the handle is put into the lid of plastic boxes. Many of them I've seen go through the lid making the seal pointless for stopping moisture infiltration over time. I learned this from using some as storage on my boat. The tools inside them corroded like crazy.
Leave them in original packaging. Less chance of a mixup if you keep more than 1 type of ammo. They're also marked with lot numbers in case of a recall or bad batch.
If hygroscopic cardboard damages ammo, that ammo is probably terrible quality. Ammo stored in cardboard since the 40s will still shoot. I've seen it right here on the tube of U's.
They're in air tight, waterproof containers. Have also seen ammo carried in boxed for several decades with no issues. The cardboard will never have a higher humidity rating than the air around it unless there is some kind of water being sprayed on or soaked into it. Have seen ammo not in boxes corrode while ammo in boxed inches away remain almost new looking after several years too. (from oxidizing lead, copper and brass). We use things to control humidity in out safe though... and of course, our ammo boxed are water proof like these. I'm not sure if it would be different in just regular open air, except that I don't think the cardboard would ever be more "wet" than the air around it.
agree. a cartridge is just gunpowder sealed in a metal can with a projectile for a lid. if its got such a bad seal that lets moisture in its not going to perform well anyway.
Leave them in the boxes. #1 if you have an AR in 556 and one in 300 blk I think this drastically reduces the chances of accidentally packing a 300 blk into a 556 mag. #2 If you have any sort of issue with ammo it might be contained to a specific batch which can then be easily eliminated or possibly sent beck to manufacturer. #3 Also having them in a box greatly increases chances or value of resale. I myself would never buy someone’s loose ammo but boxed ammo is a much different story, at least if it’s in a factory box the buyer knows they aren’t gonna end up with one of bubbas pissing hot hand loads. Some of the now import banned Norinco ammo can fetch a pretty high dollar, and I’m sure there are countless more examples.
Yes all my cans are marked what caliber what make of ammo type of brass and if you reload how many times the brass has been reloaded is a matter of fact I write all my ballistic information down also I do reload different calibers not a problem just keep them organized as long as I have Been doing this I pretty much have it figured out 👍💯
Without the lot number and IF the rifle explodes because if they put 89gr of powder when it should have been only 44.5 gr of powder (double charge of power) and your rifle explodes. The manufacturer of the ammunition would demand a product lot and product code to prove it's theirs. Otherwise they will state "without the requested information, the manufacturer is limited in ability to assist in this matter." Basically "this is not ours, we are not liable for any damages" basically tough luck
Each case of LOOSE ammo(in the can) I keep a tab from the box with batch and lot # right on top of the ammo. Yeah you'll never know... Been doing this for over 25 years.
I store them in the cardboard box inside ammo cans, also toss in oxygen absorbers. The oxygen absorber keeps the cardboard from absorbing moisture which is the concern.
@@MilitaryAV yes we all have made cringy playlists in our past, now, what else am I going to call it? “Duty” encompasses everything from military to private security and organizations. If you carry a gun for reasons other than conceal carry it’s probably a duty gun with duty ammo.
@@illeagle9560 False. Direct from the TSA website - "Small arms ammunitions must be securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition." Imagine being so authoritative but so easily proven wrong...
@@ShaggyRogers1 he means inside of the container. I carry my Ammo in a ziplock baggie when I fly and put the baggie in locked box separate from my firearm
The advantages of leaving them in the boxes is that you know the production dates of those particular bullets and if anything happens that might be a manufacturing defect you also have the lot number. These are two important pieces of information. Personally, I think the ammo is better protected if left in the box, but that’s just my opinion.
Yeah, but the reason is the govt buys ammo by the truck load and they only open the individual ammo cans when they're ready to use them. Some of us buy ammo in boxes and then put them into cans. That being said, I usually keep mine in the boxes, but not because that's how the military does it.
Ammo handler here when I was in the USMC. We kept them in boxes because they were already on stripper clips and inside the prepackaged bandoleers. In every single unit I’ve been in and seen during range ops, they have taken the remaining unfired rounds and dumped them into 5.56 ammo cans, labeled them, then sealed them for return
Fair enough but our military isn’t exactly immune to wasting money. Exhibit A would be the $300,000 piece of equipment I personally helped bury in Iraqi sand in ‘03 because “what the F is this thing doing taking up space in our truck?”… So I’m sure our military is capable of playing fast and free with taxpayer dollars when it comes to ammo storage. After all if they ain’t keeping the military industrial complex fat cats in their G5s then who’s gonna, right?
I had 8mm Mauser ammunition from ‘56, it was packaged in cardboard boxes inside a wooden crate. No duds out of 100s I fired. I’ve also had corrosive 7.62 from the ‘70s, it was cardboard wrapped on stripper clips inside plastic, fired fine. Cool, dry stored ammo will last several decades no problem.
Common sense ... the ammo in sealed cans have been around for years ... the cardboard can act as an absobent if there is any moisture present ... unless the cans seal or integrity is damaged ... what were you thinking??? Emply all the ammo in to the bare metal can without cardboard??? 😳😲🤯🤮🤔🤔🤔🤔
Personally I would leave them in the box, one it’s an added layer of protection for the ammo and two it’s let’s you know exactly what that ammo is and where is came from
I keep them in their boxes. Makes it easier to take a few boxes to the range instead of having to dig through the cans. Plus I know which type of ammo I'm using when they're in their boxes.
if you trust the supply and are ok with the ammo.. dump them out.. i used to keep my 9mm all in boxes however having over 3 or 4 thousands rounds boxes are a pain in the ass.. so i got some ammo cans and just dumped the out in the can...and now i have ALOT more space
@@jim726You're wrong, UNLESS the individual ammo boxes fit perfectly in the metal cans. That's hardly the case. In all other cases, loose = more space.
Anyone who said to take the ammo out of cardboard is either living underwater or doesn't maintain their can! you can fix it with some silicon and some anti-oxygen packets!
Leave them in the box because it will absorb some of the moisture. I know this is a little off subject but when I store my motorcycle during off season in order to keep it pristine, I put a cardboard underneath it and cover it with a cotton bed sheet and then a water resistant tarp. This will prevent a lot of moisture from causing the seat and plastics to crack or get brittle. Back to ammo. If you can put in a couple of those moisture resistant packets you get when you buy a new set of shoes or buy some.
I recommend you do what you want. Cardboard will only hurt if it's in a high moisture environment then it will wick moisture and cause the brass to oxidize. But that the only thing that I can see cardboard causing a problem.
@@ryanespinoza7297 seen a few pulled from rivers ... water most definitely gets in , I've also seen Masons crack massive Stones by putting water into a crack . Water always finds a way
Through some silica packets in there to help with any possible moisture. I actually got bored the other day and vacuum sealed like 500 loose rounds for the hell of it. No worries of moisture for those 😂
@Thicc Nick Again buddy Silica gel packets. Carboard is only a moisture wick if it's the only thing available. Regularly change your packets as you need to and the ammo will last indefinitely. Really moisture getting in should be stopped by a proper rubber seal anyway.
@reaperundergroundexplorati2232 Brass most certainly has moisture corrosion. Plastic shells have moisture degradation, non jacketed lead bullets have moisture corrosion, and steel cased ammo (very common for x39, x54, and 5.45x39) most certainly rusts by the dictionary definition.
If you dump all your ammo out of the boxes into your can you can probably get more bullets in there than what you have now but the boxes in my opinion makes it pretty convenient to be able to grab a 40 rounds😮😮
Yeah that's my opinion as well, and it's less trash to take off the range too. I keep all my ammo loose in sealed and labeled containers with a wad of silica packs in each, I've never once had an issue after decades of storage. Everybody else seems to be jumping on the "save the lot number" bandwagon, but in my opinion you're more likely to find the winning lotto ticket in a fortune cookie than find a defective lot of ammo and need that number.
I do both my 9mm I have 3 different ammo cans I have 1000 rounds of federal in 1 dumped in out of the boxes. In the other one I have a 1000 rounds of Remington. My 3rd one is almost empty I need to buy some!!! My 40 and 380 are stored still in the manufacture packaging tho.
the cardboard serves more than insulation / desiccant. It also serves as padding to protect the primers. Keeping it in the box as opposed to loose in a can takes away one more chance for Mr. Murphy to mess with you. Dropping a box of ammo is sketchy enough on it's own, dropping it with fairly decent odds of a round going off inside the box is just asking for a frag grenade.
Always. It includes lot numbers too in the event the manufacturer comes out and says it’s bad. Not to mention if SHTF, it’s much easier to grab and go. When I run to the range, I take them out of the boxes at home, throw them into my bag, and take that. Much easier than fumbling around.
I was gifted 3 bushel baskets full of WWII dated USGI ammo in 2010. Pistol and rifle, in the original cardboard boxes.. Every round still shot fine. They were not even in Ammo cans.
I've got a couple of cans of .303 British that's WW1 surplus I got from my Grandpa that runs fine. If its stored in a consistent temperature and out of the humidity it lasts forever.
Cardboard adds volume to your can and it can absorb moisture leading to corrosion. But in an ac house it’s not too big of a concern. I’d say leave it in the boxes just for batch ID and so you don’t mix it up with other manufacturers ammo since you’re POI will shift between ammo weights and manufactures.
Yeah, in a temperature and humidity controlled environment, you can keep quite a few things borderline indefinitely with minimal effort. Everything from ammo to energy drinks, if it's been kept inside and is observably okay, it's probably alright.
I've pulled pre WWII -06 out of boxes stored in ammo canns. Looked like new. Leave in original packaging. Seen more corrosive finger prints from handling bare cartridges
I keep my ammo in a plastic ammo box. Same thing, but plastic. It has a recessed rubber seal. I'm thinking about buying some military box like this one. I don't know. What do you guys think?
@midwestbd7144 I manage a gun store and yes, I buy ammo from people all the time....... if it's in a retail condition box. For instance, these Winchester 5.56 boxes in this video are glued shut from the factory, pretty safe bet. I also have a "make an offer" shelf that we'll throw stuff like that on. People gobble that shit up. I'm telling you, as a guy that sells ammo for a living, your ammo is worth twice as much if it's in a good condition box. You might not plan on selling your ammo, but you never know.
I've stock piled ammo for YEARS. I never take them out of the cardboard boxes. Your dealing with factory manufactured ammo, that's mass produced. You never know when you are going to get a bad box of ammo.
From experience, cardboard wicks moisture over time, and not only do the shell casings oxidize but they also get stuck to the cardboard. It may or may not wick moisture in the can… I guess it depends on your can and the environment. Personally I wouldn’t keep it in the cardboard if you think it will be in there several years. Probably a year or two is fine. Also as others have said you fit significantly more in the can if it’s not in cardboard.
Keeping in cardboard with silica gel packets is what i found to work best. I could see how just carboard would sort of take the place of the silica gel and trap moisture. But the boxes are good so that if dirt, debris, or water spills into your can, most of the laminated carboard will do a good job of keeping them ammo dry and clean till you figure out what to do.
There are many reasons to leave them in the box, mostly I hate when people dump ammo then run their hand through the ammo in the can like its sand. The second you touch the brass your skin oils will begin to oxidize the brass, about 6 months till your ammo looks dark brown. I usually change out the ammo in my mags every 3-4 months just incase
you have some fucking disgusting hands if your brass is changing colors from you touching it. i have the same self defense ammo in 3 of my handguns for about 5 years and still looks factory new. with me rotating mags every few months so the springs dont wear out
I leave them as they come then vacuum seal each box and stack in an ammo box, milk crate or plastic tub. For bulk, loose ammo, I bag it up in 25 or 50 round lots in ziplocks, label,then place in a silica gel packet or two and vacuum seal the ziplock and stack in ammo boxes other sturdy containers. I've got ammo from the 70s and 80s and vacuum sealed. Every so often I'll open a bag and test fire some and have yet to have any go bad or even tarnish except for where my bare fingers touched it. As long as it's sealed and kept free of moisture in a realatively climate controlled environment without extreme temprature exposure or variations, it will last practically forever. Extreme heat, moisture and oxygen are what will cause your cases to corrode and powder to break down. I also vacuum seal my powder, primers, bullets and shot for reloading to keep them fresh and in good condition. I also have a small stock of ferro rods and matches that are individually vacuum sealed with silica gel packs for long term stoage.
I dump them and been that for 20 years. Ive never had defective ammo by lot number issues for M193 or 9mm . I buy all my ammo from the exact same manufacturer for range ammo so its 100% consistent every single time . People who dont shoot a lot will say leave them in the box . For long term storage i still dump them out and throw desiccant pack in there . Precision and Defensive ammo yes i do keep in the box . Range ammo nope .
@@gunsforevery1 because one is Match grade ammo . The other is range ammo . Range ammo I'm gonna go through quickly. Match ammo might take me year or two
But you said in your comment “for long term storage I still dump them out”. What makes match ammo and self defense ammo special enough that you will keep it in its box? You also say “people who don’t shoot a lot will say leave them in them in the box”. For someone who sounds like they’d shoot a lot, why do you keep them in the box? If range ammo will not go bad or get damaged, neither will match ammo or self defense ammo.
I personally keep my ammo in their boxes inside ammo cans. It’s much easier to grab a few boxes from a couple of different cans than to bring 4 cans of 500+ rounds each to the range.
I keep them in the box. I like to put a purchase date on my ammo. When i go to the range or competitions i will always use my oldest ammo. Especially shotgun shells. I got a safe that i use for an ammo can.
Two things keep them in the original packaging and also invest in a dehumidifier device. Separate training from SHTF ammo. If finances allow rotate ammo and you should be OK
I would leave em in the box especially if it came like that since it keeps them nice and organized so you can easily keep track of exactly how many rounds you have, not to mention you have the manuacturing info just in case anything goes kablooey. also much easier to just grab a box or two instead of loose rounds if you just wanna go for a quick range trip to sight in your gun and dont wanna lug the entire can with you. I did this with my can of 720 7.62x39mm tula steel cased rounds that I bought. also for long term protection against moisture just throw a couple silica bead packets in there and you should be good, that was how my can was sold to me.
Those little silica packets don’t last that long really. I bought a bunch of tiny color indicating packets off Amazon. They turn from blue(dry) to pink(fully moisturized). I put multiple in every ammo can. They turned pink within a month but you can re-dry them in microwave or oven. So, I then got some big Hornady Snap Safe plug in dehumidifiers and keep them in the same space with all of my ammo cans as well. You can’t always keep all moisture out though. I’ve been told as long as its kept in climate controlled conditions, no extremes in temperatures and humidity, than it will last a very long time.
I have guns and ammo that I inherited when my grandfather passed. Some of the ammo, from the 1950s, is still in its factory cardboard. The ammo is still in good shape and works just fine.
US spec military ammo has sealed primers & bullets. Keep it in the boxes inside of US GI ammo cans, along with good silica gel packets. Keep the filled ammo cans in a climate-controlled environment.
Always leave them in the original box unless it’s loaded for magazines. You need to retain the lot integrity in the event of recalls. Several recalls are out now
You’re honestly thinking too hard about it. If you dump them out, you probably can get more ammo in each can. Also, when you go to use your ammo, you don’t have to mess with all the damn cardboard. Also, by dumping them out you can quickly inspect the ammo for defects.
I have 9mm ammo that is 30 years old. Been in the cardboard box the whole time. It's a little tarnished but otherwise fine. I took some out a few months back and fired it through my new Beretta model 92. It cycled with no issues.
I vacuum sealed mine I bought several thousand rounds when I turned 21 before Obama got elected. Went to different walmarts and kept clearing them out. They are still shiny brass when I open one up.
Keep in the box. Put maxipad or grocery store food grade moisture absorbers .wrap in the brown paper they send with your ammo order! That is what is is for.. most people toss it! Wrap your ammo box with the moisture absorber and then right what it is on paper. 9mm +P or whatever you have. Label them witj color like mags. If its is regular, defense, body droppers like Liam defense rounds 😊 tickle tickle
Definitely keep them in the boxes for a multitude of reasons…the big one being that it’s easy to keep track of usage, but also they’re much better organized like that. And like everyone’s mentioning having a silica packet inside them will definitely be the way to store them in their original cardboard boxes.
Yup. Just to adsorb the water molecules that are in the air. If the ammo is kept in humidity controlled enviroments it should be okay as long as the chemical primer and propellant remain stable. Which is nearly indefinite for modern ammo. So the silica gel packets are dessicants. Inedible but inert otherwise. Passively making hydrated silica crystals. If one of those packets gets soaked in water and then left to dry, there will be telltales like stains but the silica gel bags found in so many products are useful and I keep a jar of them. Put em in with a laptop in storage. Anything that doesnt like water. Cardboard is a fine way to store this stuff
Hamo is completely fine in cardboard boxes, as long as it didn't get wet or something, storing it in a sealed container like you do is the best, my dad's old boss had 50-60 year old .22lr ammo, a few brands, and some probably 30 year old .223 ammo, just sitting in the boxes, he kept them in his closet, moved and left them in his attic, last month every single round fired just fine. Was never kept in a bag or sealed box.
I recommend putting them in a box and address the address to me.
Lol good one
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I was an Ammo Tech in the Marine Corps. We had ammo in boxes from the 50's. Definitely leave them in the manufacturer packaging.
WTH is an ammo tech? That was your whole job?
We have a military expert here. All others are now void.
@powerbychevy
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@@Miniscapes515military is no nonsense with Ammunition. Do your homework!
@91foxbody oh I know. They are the end all be all experts on anything firearm related. Anyone else is well, just wrong.
Why would you say "NEVER leave ammo in the cardboard" if you're the one asking the question? Clickbait much?
Nailed it.
Click bait my dood
@@willieeasley2811 you’re right if cardboard was bad manufacturer wouldn’t put it in cardboard. It’s not like it sits on the shelf for years before you buy it? I got cardboard box demo from the 90s in my ammo cans ….no problem…
It's probably for idiots that leave their Ammo out in moist conditions, or people that store them outside in like say a garage, or shed something, where the cardboard might possibly hold some moisture. But yeah, I can't stand those guntubers just pour it all into the box where it dings and scratches the shit out of it, and Causes a type of electrolysis where the metal on metal contact makes little black spots all over the ammo.
It's only bad if it's humid because the paper absorbs it over time.. where as if it's dry the paper wicks away any humidity from the ammo.
This guy just wanted a reason to show off his ammo supply.
Really nothing crazy… folks should have at minimum 1k for each caliber that they own. I only have a 9mm pistol and 2 rifles in 556. I keep at least 2k stockpiles of each. Ammo is pricy right now at around .45c a round for 556 and .23c a round for 9mm but I can go get 1k of 9mm shipped to my door for 229$ free shipping. It’s always a good investment in your security, financially and in case anything happens you’re gonna be set for a little while.
@@kevinshipwreck7867 Oh yeah, I have the same.
@@kevinshipwreck7867 you just make up some kind of spec in your brain on how much ammo someone should have lol.
Not a lot of ammo there, I’d have to disagree with the ammo flex statement
winny white box is far from a flex..
cardboard acts as a dehumidifier, cardboard is good.
fill it with poop and the poop is like a added bonus when you open it up decade later
cardboard absorbs moisture, you're ammo will be moisture locked
I leave mine in my ammo can with boxes of bullets so the shine of my bullets don’t go away over time my boxes rounds are 4 years old an there still brand new because I take good care of them in a box crate an in a dry cold space too store them in my gun cabinet
@@Phosgene1917 unless you're storing your ammunition high humidity, I don't think it's much of a problem.
Yeah it traps all the moisture in the can and touches the rounds.
After 40 years of stockpiling ammo, I can say leave them in the box or don’t. It doesn’t matter as long as the environment they are stored in is consistent and not humid or too hot.
Ammo lasts a surprisingly long time.
I’ve had ammo from the late 80’s to early 90’s that worked just last week.
Of course cheaper stuff may corrode but , feel free to store them as they come in their original boxes or cans.
We’re always open to charitable donations from that 40 yr stockpile lol
you guys are the ones that ruin prices for buying all the time. Man the preppers are the worst
@@leodoingthings1706actually, metal prices correlate to ammo prices. Also a surge of new firearms owners due to the multitude failures by our beloved government has historically made prices skyrocket and supply scarce every-single-time. Pay attention to the world around you or get left behind. You are the only one responsible for your safety.
@@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- i only have few hundred rounds at my home, and i dont see a point of owning more. I own more at range storage to not carry ammo when i go to range. But i see no point of stockpiling for 40 years. Preparing for what? i have enough ammo for everyday carry and few range trips. So what can happen tha i will need 10k rounds?
@@leodoingthings1706 lol I’ve never seen a man mad at another man for having too much ammo. That must not make you a Man, ha ha😂😂
If you have good ammo cans, then everything should stay dry and won’t damage the ammo. I think the cardboard boxes help keep them organized and help me remember what brand, grain, etc i have in my cans
It's all preferance! Just keep it dry!!!
The boxes also help keep the rounds separated which helps protect them
@@izaicslinux6961that's why I only buy one brand and shoot the same grain of bullet. I prefer to take the ammo out cuz I can store more ammo. Plus I don't have to unpack it comes in handy if you need ammo fast to reload mags. If you want to store deferent grain of bullets just buy more ammo cans. That's my opinion on the matter.
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Yes and throw some silica packs in
@@chrismcknight8925that’s why I only buy one bullet at a time
I leave them in the box because it's easier to grab a few for a range trip
This. Loose ammo in the can is way cooler but less convenient to actually shoot most of the time, plus in boxes it’s easier to keep track of how much you shot
You could just take loaded mags to the range. Sometimes those loose cases are cheaper.
@@drstevenbrule4406 cooler?
@@bryantbutlermfas in asthetically more pleasing to look at m8. its kinda not as impactful to see a ammo box full of smaller boxes than a ammo box filled with golden brass lol
this is the only comment that makes sense to me. thanks man!
Have had mine in the box for over 5 years and the cardboard is still crisp and dry. If you store it right then you won't have to worry about cardboard causing corrosion from moisture.
Corrosion?? Old military ammo was prone tocorrison new stuff anti corrosion our ammo never went bad in VN😂😂😅🇺🇲🇺🇲🪖63 69
Besides that, just some rice will do if your not opening the can all the time.
@@MrLandslide84 that's actually a great strategy. Rice is used for our electronics all the time, but ammo which would need that increase in moisture draw would really benefit.
@@MrLandslide84that’s a good idea. I’m going to try that instead of buying moisture packets
@@MrLandslide84 dont use rice use those moisture wicking pads or silicone beads. rice doesn't really absorb moisture even if it does now you have a bunch of rice starch over your shit and it attracts bugs which will eat the cardboard
If you have a batch of ammo that is defective and ends up hurting you and or damaging your weapon knowing the batch number and manufacturer is very useful
Stole it out of my mouth!! Once you have a squib you'll want to know what batch it came from or your gonna be throwing away ALL your ammo.
Yeah and especially with winchester anymore
Good point..
Cut those parts of the box and tape them to the inside of the lid, if it’s all the same lot, that is.
Vacuume seal them with the serial of each box in each bag who doesn't have a knife when shooting boom you got them open and easily separated
It's winchester white box. It ain't gonna shoot anyways
Dump em all out for a video and then load them all buck up the packages again... you KNOW you wanna play with ammo...
Good to have the box for defective ammo, also much easier to count when it’s already been counted.
damn straight
This. It’s just so much more convenient being able to quickly count your ammo
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Dump ammo but not in a jumbled mess. Stack, get rid of the moisture keeping cardboard. Don’t think for a second that ammo can is air tight.
I leave in them in the boxes. Easier to see the grain weight and bullet type. Also helps if my gun happens to like a certain ammo that way I know which brand to buy again.
couldnt you just put a label on the ammo can? that sounds like a pretty simple fix. You do you fellow slinger
@@johnfisher8401 I could but I like to store several types of ammo in one can. That way I dont have 50 cans just for one caliber. For example both my M1As like Atomic .308 ammo 168 gr HPBT but they also like other types of .308 but dont want to put all the atomic in one can and then all the others they like in to their own cans cause then I'd run out of storage space. I keep it all on designated .308 cans and then short it out inside each can by grain weight and brand.
That's basically how I shop for dog treats. I keep the box in case my picky little shit of a dog decides he likes something. Doesn't mean he'll like it next time I get it, though....
@@since1876 Damn someone's cranky.
@@pliskenx51mm83 I could only afford the bad side of the bed, so I don't get the choice you rich people who could also afford the good side get... 😭
Nice clickbait title when you don’t even know the answer yourself. Blocking this channel from vids being recommended to me.
My grandpa kept ammo in old cardboard boxes in a leaky shed in his backyard. Still functioned and fired fine.
😂 got me dying over here
That solves it
it all depends, i wouldn't exactly rely on it but yeah I've gotten old boxes of buckshot out of the barn where they had been for probably 15 years and they fired better than brand new shells . but that's not always gonna be the case. if you are storing large amounts of ammo I'd recommend a little more care
Leave them in boxes, it's an extra layer of protection, plus if you need to sell any people would rather buy ammo in original boxes than just loose. I keep all mine in boxes
Ammo should never be sold.. it’s supposed to be spent! 😂
If I've learned anything from fallout it's that ammo will be the most valuable thing in the event of a societal breakdown
Normally i agree but during covid I had for me what I considered a crap ton that I got for about $9-10 of 9mm and like $18-20 for 22lr and easily sold them for doubled what I paid for and now that ammo is back to reasonable prices I slowly buy some more to replenish
@@jarthe3 You have the disposition of a wise trader. I hope I can do business with you someday after the bombs fall and you don't end up having your skin worn by a drug addled cannibal.
@@kevinmonahan2820You have clearly not played New Vegas. My Courier has no less than an entire Reserve on him at all times.
I would leave them in the cardboard. No chance of them getting dented while being jostled around in a can.
They would have to be hit pretty hard to dent them. It's not as if they are gonna get dented by bumping into each other.
I’m thinking they will get dented if they are in the back of a truck going down a rough road they go bouncing everywhere I’m for leaving them in the box.
@@Chop1818 your bullets are really weak or you have no concept of material strength
@@Chris-fc7xk correct, brass has always been known for its dent resistance 🙄
@@Chris-fc7xk I can squish brass with my fingers, regardless the correct answer is to dump them all and put some foam filler on top of it, just to take up all the space
Depends on if the seal on those ammo cans are good and where you store them.
i just switched from metal surplus style cans to plastic ones, and got rid of the cardboard boxes so I can fit more rounds per can. Also keep a reusable silica pack in each one.
I favor the metal cans. In a bug out situation if you drop a plastic one, it could break.
The rubber gaskets on surplus USGI cans can be revived with silicone spray lube. They plump back up with a good wet coat absorbed into them over night. Just use a q-tip soaked in lube to clean the dirt off and leave a decent puddle all over the gasket without having to spray all over the lid. I'd also recommend cleaning the entire can and then appling a very light coat of oil over all the metal. Doing this has made my surplus cans last 20 years so far without a problem.
Plastic boxes tend to flex the lid and lose the seal when lifted while full. You should also check to see how the handle is put into the lid of plastic boxes. Many of them I've seen go through the lid making the seal pointless for stopping moisture infiltration over time. I learned this from using some as storage on my boat. The tools inside them corroded like crazy.
Leave them in original packaging. Less chance of a mixup if you keep more than 1 type of ammo. They're also marked with lot numbers in case of a recall or bad batch.
leave them in the box's with the silica packs like you have them
If hygroscopic cardboard damages ammo, that ammo is probably terrible quality. Ammo stored in cardboard since the 40s will still shoot. I've seen it right here on the tube of U's.
They're in air tight, waterproof containers. Have also seen ammo carried in boxed for several decades with no issues. The cardboard will never have a higher humidity rating than the air around it unless there is some kind of water being sprayed on or soaked into it. Have seen ammo not in boxes corrode while ammo in boxed inches away remain almost new looking after several years too. (from oxidizing lead, copper and brass). We use things to control humidity in out safe though... and of course, our ammo boxed are water proof like these. I'm not sure if it would be different in just regular open air, except that I don't think the cardboard would ever be more "wet" than the air around it.
Hygroscopic not hydroscopic.
@@gregoryhaines6084 Thanks. I fixed it.
This video was made to produce comments. Imagine how the world got by without the tubes of u.
agree. a cartridge is just gunpowder sealed in a metal can with a projectile for a lid. if its got such a bad seal that lets moisture in its not going to perform well anyway.
Who lied to you and said leaving ammo in cardboard boxes is bad for ammo? It's not. Acts as a dehumidifier if anything.
Leave them in the boxes.
#1 if you have an AR in 556 and one in 300 blk I think this drastically reduces the chances of accidentally packing a 300 blk into a 556 mag.
#2 If you have any sort of issue with ammo it might be contained to a specific batch which can then be easily eliminated or possibly sent beck to manufacturer.
#3 Also having them in a box greatly increases chances or value of resale. I myself would never buy someone’s loose ammo but boxed ammo is a much different story, at least if it’s in a factory box the buyer knows they aren’t gonna end up with one of bubbas pissing hot hand loads. Some of the now import banned Norinco ammo can fetch a pretty high dollar, and I’m sure there are countless more examples.
That was a horrible comparison no way u could confuse a 300 blackout for a 556
Yes all my cans are marked what caliber what make of ammo type of brass and if you reload how many times the brass has been reloaded is a matter of fact I write all my ballistic information down also I do reload different calibers not a problem just keep them organized as long as I have Been doing this I pretty much have it figured out 👍💯
its a felony to sell ammo without proper licensing. never try to sell or buy ammo from someone.
Always keep it in boxes! If you have an issue with a round or rounds you will have the lot #'s.
Without the lot number and IF the rifle explodes because if they put 89gr of powder when it should have been only 44.5 gr of powder (double charge of power) and your rifle explodes. The manufacturer of the ammunition would demand a product lot and product code to prove it's theirs. Otherwise they will state "without the requested information, the manufacturer is limited in ability to assist in this matter." Basically "this is not ours, we are not liable for any damages" basically tough luck
Each case of LOOSE ammo(in the can) I keep a tab from the box with batch and lot # right on top of the ammo.
Yeah you'll never know... Been doing this for over 25 years.
@@RemoteCamperand in your 25 years how many guns have you had explode due to bad ammunition?
@@SzymczykProductions Never one. I've been shooting for over 40 years.
@@SzymczykProductionsand you'd never win a lawsuit against a gun manufacturer or ammo manufacturer either.
I store them in the cardboard box inside ammo cans, also toss in oxygen absorbers.
The oxygen absorber keeps the cardboard from absorbing moisture which is the concern.
A oxygen absorber wouldnt help much in a ammo can any air leak at all and its useless.
@@DamnitBobbyHill.then its the can thats the problem, technically are air sealed unless they ripped you off lol.
Do you mean desiccant silica bags?
@@joncareyyes
Use desiccant bags...not only absorption ones😊
It's cardboard. IT doesn't do anything. And it makes handling easier.
Why would you remove them from the boxes? They obviously don’t damage the ammunition.😵💫
In order to get more in the can
For range ammo, I’ll dump it into the can. Duty use/storage, I’ll leave them in the box and stack them in the can.
“Duty use” 😂😂😂😂😂
Nice trap music playlist mr duty
@@MilitaryAV why tf are you stalking him bro youre weird asf
@@MilitaryAV yes we all have made cringy playlists in our past, now, what else am I going to call it? “Duty” encompasses everything from military to private security and organizations. If you carry a gun for reasons other than conceal carry it’s probably a duty gun with duty ammo.
This is the most sensible take, IMHO.
Leave them in the boxes. You'll need them if you fly and want to check in ammo with TSA.
Or if you want/need to sell or barter with it at a later date.
Sounds like fuddlore
@@arm6075 it is. You can store it in a plastic baggie if you want
@@illeagle9560 False. Direct from the TSA website - "Small arms ammunitions must be securely packed in fiber, wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition." Imagine being so authoritative but so easily proven wrong...
@@ShaggyRogers1 he means inside of the container. I carry my Ammo in a ziplock baggie when I fly and put the baggie in locked box separate from my firearm
The advantages of leaving them in the boxes is that you know the production dates of those particular bullets and if anything happens that might be a manufacturing defect you also have the lot number. These are two important pieces of information.
Personally, I think the ammo is better protected if left in the box, but that’s just my opinion.
I don't think it makes much of a difference as long as they're stored in a dry area. It's alot easier loading mags when they're out of the box though.
I always leave mine in the cardboard box, I think it just preference
The military leaves them in the cardboard boxes. There is likely a reason for this.
Yeah, but the reason is the govt buys ammo by the truck load and they only open the individual ammo cans when they're ready to use them. Some of us buy ammo in boxes and then put them into cans.
That being said, I usually keep mine in the boxes, but not because that's how the military does it.
Ammo handler here when I was in the USMC. We kept them in boxes because they were already on stripper clips and inside the prepackaged bandoleers. In every single unit I’ve been in and seen during range ops, they have taken the remaining unfired rounds and dumped them into 5.56 ammo cans, labeled them, then sealed them for return
@@redacted_platypus I was a PMI but never knew this. Thanks for the info!
@@redacted_platypusunfired, meaning the box has been open. When they are originally stored, they are kept in boxes.
Fair enough but our military isn’t exactly immune to wasting money. Exhibit A would be the $300,000 piece of equipment I personally helped bury in Iraqi sand in ‘03 because “what the F is this thing doing taking up space in our truck?”… So I’m sure our military is capable of playing fast and free with taxpayer dollars when it comes to ammo storage. After all if they ain’t keeping the military industrial complex fat cats in their G5s then who’s gonna, right?
I had 8mm Mauser ammunition from ‘56, it was packaged in cardboard boxes inside a wooden crate. No duds out of 100s I fired.
I’ve also had corrosive 7.62 from the ‘70s, it was cardboard wrapped on stripper clips inside plastic, fired fine.
Cool, dry stored ammo will last several decades no problem.
Common sense ... the ammo in sealed cans have been around for years ... the cardboard can act as an absobent if there is any moisture present ... unless the cans seal or integrity is damaged ... what were you thinking??? Emply all the ammo in to the bare metal can without cardboard???
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Personally I would leave them in the box, one it’s an added layer of protection for the ammo and two it’s let’s you know exactly what that ammo is and where is came from
Especially with the silica. He good to go. Lol
I keep them in their boxes. Makes it easier to take a few boxes to the range instead of having to dig through the cans. Plus I know which type of ammo I'm using when they're in their boxes.
100 years later, ammo wrapped in paper seems to be just fine.
Just keep it dry. For most all intents and purposes, quality ammo kept dry doesnt degrade.
As long as you leave your ammo in a dry place cardboard boxes are fine to leave ammo in..
if you trust the supply and are ok with the ammo.. dump them out.. i used to keep my 9mm all in boxes however having over 3 or 4 thousands rounds boxes are a pain in the ass.. so i got some ammo cans and just dumped the out in the can...and now i have ALOT more space
Impossible. Loose ammo in any given space absolutely will consume more space than if the same number of rounds are packed in boxes in the same space.
@@jim726 I have to disagree sir. I saved room by keeping them loose over the box but both ways are fine.
That's a feat of physics I'd love to know how to do! Congrats!
@@jim726You're wrong, UNLESS the individual ammo boxes fit perfectly in the metal cans. That's hardly the case. In all other cases, loose = more space.
you also have ALOT more exposed primers...
Take away the cardboard, leave it in the plastic
Leave them in their original box but put those boxes in an air tight water proof box.
The military leaves its ammo in the original packaging for decades, and it still works...for the most part...sometimes
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That’s reassuring. 🤪
It doesn't matter if you get ammo cans with a seal.
What if it comes with a walrus instead?
Your local baker gets donut glaze/frosting in 2-5gal buckets with rubber o-ring lids. They throw these away daily. I asked and got several for free.
Anyone who said to take the ammo out of cardboard is either living underwater or doesn't maintain their can! you can fix it with some silicon and some anti-oxygen packets!
Leave them in the box because it will absorb some of the moisture. I know this is a little off subject but when I store my motorcycle during off season in order to keep it pristine, I put a cardboard underneath it and cover it with a cotton bed sheet and then a water resistant tarp. This will prevent a lot of moisture from causing the seat and plastics to crack or get brittle. Back to ammo. If you can put in a couple of those moisture resistant packets you get when you buy a new set of shoes or buy some.
I recommend you do what you want. Cardboard will only hurt if it's in a high moisture environment then it will wick moisture and cause the brass to oxidize. But that the only thing that I can see cardboard causing a problem.
Even then, aren’t those ammo cans waterproof? Or maybe just some? Mine have a rubber gasket around the edges
It’s a sealed ammo can with a gasket, you can dump it in a river and moisture won’t get in
@@ryanespinoza7297 seen a few pulled from rivers ... water most definitely gets in , I've also seen Masons crack massive Stones by putting water into a crack . Water always finds a way
Through some silica packets in there to help with any possible moisture.
I actually got bored the other day and vacuum sealed like 500 loose rounds for the hell of it. No worries of moisture for those 😂
Leave in boxes, silica gel packets. Loose are more likely to rust. The box is a layer of dry protection itself.
The cardboard contains moisture, you’re more likely to get rust with the cardboard. Dump them
@Thicc Nick Again buddy Silica gel packets. Carboard is only a moisture wick if it's the only thing available. Regularly change your packets as you need to and the ammo will last indefinitely. Really moisture getting in should be stopped by a proper rubber seal anyway.
Ok that's good to hear cause I have mine in plastic Ziploc bags with that silicone gel packet
Brass doesn’t rust , neither does copper.
@reaperundergroundexplorati2232 Brass most certainly has moisture corrosion. Plastic shells have moisture degradation, non jacketed lead bullets have moisture corrosion, and steel cased ammo (very common for x39, x54, and 5.45x39) most certainly rusts by the dictionary definition.
anytime you have two dis-similar metals in contact, they can run the risk of corrosion if sitting long enough.
I have 400 year old ammo still in cardboard boxes, still works great.
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I have some that is 10000 years old just storing them out laying on my driveway . Lol
I have ammo from the Romans, still in the box.
I leave my ammo in the magazines
But after that... what do I do with the other 2k rounds?
@@Poverty-PonyTonyFind more mags to feed.
Buy more mags...@@Poverty-PonyTony
Your lack of ammo is disturbing.
@@Poverty-PonyTonyonly 2k? Those are rookie shoot twice a year numbers
In the box. Easier to keep track of how many. Although you can probably fit more by dumping them in!
Leave them just like you gottm' WITH the selica moisture packet.
In the house, out of the sun light, away from heat, and cold concrete floor.........
If you dump all your ammo out of the boxes into your can you can probably get more bullets in there than what you have now but the boxes in my opinion makes it pretty convenient to be able to grab a 40 rounds😮😮
I personally just have caliber and ammo types sorted and dumb into cans. You can fit more and it saves later time not messing with packaging.
Yeah that's my opinion as well, and it's less trash to take off the range too. I keep all my ammo loose in sealed and labeled containers with a wad of silica packs in each, I've never once had an issue after decades of storage. Everybody else seems to be jumping on the "save the lot number" bandwagon, but in my opinion you're more likely to find the winning lotto ticket in a fortune cookie than find a defective lot of ammo and need that number.
I do both my 9mm I have 3 different ammo cans I have 1000 rounds of federal in 1 dumped in out of the boxes. In the other one I have a 1000 rounds of Remington. My 3rd one is almost empty I need to buy some!!! My 40 and 380 are stored still in the manufacture packaging tho.
You only got 600 rounds packed into a 820 round can... So that's one problem with cardboard.
stack extra in a gun cabinet keep the ammo cans stocked in rotation
the cardboard serves more than insulation / desiccant. It also serves as padding to protect the primers. Keeping it in the box as opposed to loose in a can takes away one more chance for Mr. Murphy to mess with you. Dropping a box of ammo is sketchy enough on it's own, dropping it with fairly decent odds of a round going off inside the box is just asking for a frag grenade.
Always. It includes lot numbers too in the event the manufacturer comes out and says it’s bad.
Not to mention if SHTF, it’s much easier to grab and go.
When I run to the range, I take them out of the boxes at home, throw them into my bag, and take that. Much easier than fumbling around.
I was gifted 3 bushel baskets full of WWII dated USGI ammo in 2010. Pistol and rifle, in the original cardboard boxes.. Every round still shot fine. They were not even in Ammo cans.
I've got a couple of cans of .303 British that's WW1 surplus I got from my Grandpa that runs fine. If its stored in a consistent temperature and out of the humidity it lasts forever.
Cardboard adds volume to your can and it can absorb moisture leading to corrosion. But in an ac house it’s not too big of a concern. I’d say leave it in the boxes just for batch ID and so you don’t mix it up with other manufacturers ammo since you’re POI will shift between ammo weights and manufactures.
Yeah, in a temperature and humidity controlled environment, you can keep quite a few things borderline indefinitely with minimal effort.
Everything from ammo to energy drinks, if it's been kept inside and is observably okay, it's probably alright.
I usually take mine out of cardboard boxes and store in a mixture of chicken blood, orange juice and sand.
@@tigeratlas ever heard of Jihawg rounds?
I've pulled pre WWII -06 out of boxes stored in ammo canns. Looked like new. Leave in original packaging. Seen more corrosive finger prints from handling bare cartridges
I keep my ammo in a plastic ammo box. Same thing, but plastic. It has a recessed rubber seal. I'm thinking about buying some military box like this one. I don't know. What do you guys think?
The box helps resale or barter value. Absolutely leave it in the box. Most shops won't buy it back for much unless it's in the box
Is that even a thing? All the ammo I’ve bought has a no return policy
I’m not selling any of my ammo, you crazy man lol
@midwestbd7144 I manage a gun store and yes, I buy ammo from people all the time....... if it's in a retail condition box. For instance, these Winchester 5.56 boxes in this video are glued shut from the factory, pretty safe bet. I also have a "make an offer" shelf that we'll throw stuff like that on. People gobble that shit up. I'm telling you, as a guy that sells ammo for a living, your ammo is worth twice as much if it's in a good condition box. You might not plan on selling your ammo, but you never know.
I've stock piled ammo for YEARS. I never take them out of the cardboard boxes. Your dealing with factory manufactured ammo, that's mass produced. You never know when you are going to get a bad box of ammo.
As long as you have a good seal on your ammunition case, and keep it dry due to proper packing or oxygen packs you should be good for quite some time.
leave them in the boxes but leave enough space to fill it with rice that way the rice keeps the cardboard dry and the ammo rust and moisture free
From experience, cardboard wicks moisture over time, and not only do the shell casings oxidize but they also get stuck to the cardboard. It may or may not wick moisture in the can… I guess it depends on your can and the environment. Personally I wouldn’t keep it in the cardboard if you think it will be in there several years. Probably a year or two is fine. Also as others have said you fit significantly more in the can if it’s not in cardboard.
Keeping in cardboard with silica gel packets is what i found to work best. I could see how just carboard would sort of take the place of the silica gel and trap moisture. But the boxes are good so that if dirt, debris, or water spills into your can, most of the laminated carboard will do a good job of keeping them ammo dry and clean till you figure out what to do.
Yes i put silica packs too they dry out moisture
it dosnt really matter , its more of a case of do you want the convenience of grabbing a neat box of 20 or do you want to mess around with loose ammo
And if a case blows up your gun you wont be able to prove what lot number you had
@@fishlife1013 while that is a point , what if its old warsaw pact ammo ? or chinese ? have fun getting a refund ,
i recommend you send all your ammunition to me for proper storage
Store them underwater. That way the air can't get to them!! 😮
The same way you get out of the pool when it rains so you dont get wet ...
There are many reasons to leave them in the box, mostly I hate when people dump ammo then run their hand through the ammo in the can like its sand. The second you touch the brass your skin oils will begin to oxidize the brass, about 6 months till your ammo looks dark brown. I usually change out the ammo in my mags every 3-4 months just incase
I thought only silicon based life forms put that flag in their usernames
This is the most soy comment on the internet
@@Thehorse49I’ll be sure to dip my sushi in it.
you have some fucking disgusting hands if your brass is changing colors from you touching it. i have the same self defense ammo in 3 of my handguns for about 5 years and still looks factory new. with me rotating mags every few months so the springs dont wear out
Um, what? Dude I find brass casings in the woods from 6 months + ago still shiny and usable and no brown color
One of the gun shop owners told me that we’re still using up ammo from WW2 days.
I leave them as they come then vacuum seal each box and stack in an ammo box, milk crate or plastic tub. For bulk, loose ammo, I bag it up in 25 or 50 round lots in ziplocks, label,then place in a silica gel packet or two and vacuum seal the ziplock and stack in ammo boxes other sturdy containers. I've got ammo from the 70s and 80s and vacuum sealed. Every so often I'll open a bag and test fire some and have yet to have any go bad or even tarnish except for where my bare fingers touched it. As long as it's sealed and kept free of moisture in a realatively climate controlled environment without extreme temprature exposure or variations, it will last practically forever. Extreme heat, moisture and oxygen are what will cause your cases to corrode and powder to break down. I also vacuum seal my powder, primers, bullets and shot for reloading to keep them fresh and in good condition. I also have a small stock of ferro rods and matches that are individually vacuum sealed with silica gel packs for long term stoage.
I dump them out, but with those silica packs in there you will be fine.
That's right. I have mine in plastic Ziploc bags with the silicone gel packet
I dump them and been that for 20 years.
Ive never had defective ammo by lot number issues for M193 or 9mm .
I buy all my ammo from the exact same manufacturer for range ammo so its 100% consistent every single time .
People who dont shoot a lot will say leave them in the box .
For long term storage i still dump them out and throw desiccant pack in there .
Precision and Defensive ammo yes i do keep in the box . Range ammo nope .
Same
Why treat different types of ammo differently?
@@gunsforevery1 because one is Match grade ammo . The other is range ammo . Range ammo I'm gonna go through quickly. Match ammo might take me year or two
But you said in your comment “for long term storage I still dump them out”. What makes match ammo and self defense ammo special enough that you will keep it in its box?
You also say “people who don’t shoot a lot will say leave them in them in the box”. For someone who sounds like they’d shoot a lot, why do you keep them in the box?
If range ammo will not go bad or get damaged, neither will match ammo or self defense ammo.
I personally keep my ammo in their boxes inside ammo cans. It’s much easier to grab a few boxes from a couple of different cans than to bring 4 cans of 500+ rounds each to the range.
Was this a question or a flex 😂
The cardboard will act as a desiccant and help keep the ammo dry from excessive humidity
Fuddlore. That ammo is also well sealed. After years and a bad storage location that's a different story.
I keep them in the box. I like to put a purchase date on my ammo. When i go to the range or competitions i will always use my oldest ammo. Especially shotgun shells. I got a safe that i use for an ammo can.
Dump them out and put them in a vacuum sealed plastic bag with oxygen absorbing packs first, then into deep metal storage.
If ammo cans with poison packs were gods intended way of storing ammo… cardboard is fine. Only you can ruin your shit
Two things keep them in the original packaging and also invest in a dehumidifier device. Separate training from SHTF ammo. If finances allow rotate ammo and you should be OK
I would leave em in the box especially if it came like that since it keeps them nice and organized so you can easily keep track of exactly how many rounds you have, not to mention you have the manuacturing info just in case anything goes kablooey. also much easier to just grab a box or two instead of loose rounds if you just wanna go for a quick range trip to sight in your gun and dont wanna lug the entire can with you. I did this with my can of 720 7.62x39mm tula steel cased rounds that I bought.
also for long term protection against moisture just throw a couple silica bead packets in there and you should be good, that was how my can was sold to me.
Those little silica packets don’t last that long really. I bought a bunch of tiny color indicating packets off Amazon. They turn from blue(dry) to pink(fully moisturized). I put multiple in every ammo can. They turned pink within a month but you can re-dry them in microwave or oven. So, I then got some big Hornady Snap Safe plug in dehumidifiers and keep them in the same space with all of my ammo cans as well. You can’t always keep all moisture out though. I’ve been told as long as its kept in climate controlled conditions, no extremes in temperatures and humidity, than it will last a very long time.
I have guns and ammo that I inherited when my grandfather passed. Some of the ammo, from the 1950s, is still in its factory cardboard. The ammo is still in good shape and works just fine.
Why would you dumb them if you have an issue with some you wont know what lot it came out of the boxes have numbers printed on them for a reason
US spec military ammo has sealed primers & bullets. Keep it in the boxes inside of US GI ammo cans, along with good silica gel packets. Keep the filled ammo cans in a climate-controlled environment.
Always leave them in the original box unless it’s loaded for magazines. You need to retain the lot integrity in the event of recalls. Several recalls are out now
The correct answer is to keep them in mags. Don’t wanna be loading mags when SHTF
In some cases, that would be a LOT of mags The question is about long term storage, not quickly accessible ammo stocks.
You’re honestly thinking too hard about it. If you dump them out, you probably can get more ammo in each can. Also, when you go to use your ammo, you don’t have to mess with all the damn cardboard.
Also, by dumping them out you can quickly inspect the ammo for defects.
Loaded mags>Anything else
I can only load so much on all 35 mags that I got for my AR.
I’ve got lots of storage cans full of my loaded magazines. About 50 mags all together but I have thousands more rounds just loose in ammo cans also.
@@gemineyes6160 buy more mags, they’re cheap
I have 9mm ammo that is 30 years old. Been in the cardboard box the whole time. It's a little tarnished but otherwise fine. I took some out a few months back and fired it through my new Beretta model 92. It cycled with no issues.
I vacuum sealed mine I bought several thousand rounds when I turned 21 before Obama got elected. Went to different walmarts and kept clearing them out. They are still shiny brass when I open one up.
And they'll work fine when 100 yrs ago, provided they're kept dry
Keep in the box. Put maxipad or grocery store food grade moisture absorbers .wrap in the brown paper they send with your ammo order! That is what is is for.. most people toss it! Wrap your ammo box with the moisture absorber and then right what it is on paper. 9mm +P or whatever you have. Label them witj color like mags. If its is regular, defense, body droppers like Liam defense rounds 😊 tickle tickle
I have ammo that has been in its original packaging for forty years with no problem.
Definitely keep them in the boxes for a multitude of reasons…the big one being that it’s easy to keep track of usage, but also they’re much better organized like that. And like everyone’s mentioning having a silica packet inside them will definitely be the way to store them in their original cardboard boxes.
Yup. Just to adsorb the water molecules that are in the air. If the ammo is kept in humidity controlled enviroments it should be okay as long as the chemical primer and propellant remain stable. Which is nearly indefinite for modern ammo.
So the silica gel packets are dessicants. Inedible but inert otherwise. Passively making hydrated silica crystals. If one of those packets gets soaked in water and then left to dry, there will be telltales like stains but the silica gel bags found in so many products are useful and I keep a jar of them. Put em in with a laptop in storage. Anything that doesnt like water.
Cardboard is a fine way to store this stuff
Dump them out because it's so beautiful to see all that brass staring back at you.
Amen
right
Bury you ammo loose in the ground to keep it safe:) or just let the rounds roll around the floorboard until you need it. All great ideas:)
i think you should keep them in your mouth like sunflower 🌻 seeds
Hamo is completely fine in cardboard boxes, as long as it didn't get wet or something, storing it in a sealed container like you do is the best, my dad's old boss had 50-60 year old .22lr ammo, a few brands, and some probably 30 year old .223 ammo, just sitting in the boxes, he kept them in his closet, moved and left them in his attic, last month every single round fired just fine. Was never kept in a bag or sealed box.
I always dump them out. You can hold more ammo that way and the cardboard absorbs water.
@Souwth-bawston-is-fuh-luvahs If my gun blows up, knowing the lot number and purchase date are the least of my concerns.