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  • čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
  • World ending disasters are common place in science fiction, and usually an inventive plan is required to save the day. In the new Chinese film, The Wandering Earth, a truly unique solution is presented when the human race discovers that the Sun is dying and will soon expand, destroying the Earth-- turn the planet into it's own spaceship by building thrusters along the surface and moving it out of the Solar System. Kyle takes a closer look to find out just what it would take to pull off such a plan in this week's Because Science!
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  • @becausescience
    @becausescience  Před 4 lety +830

    Thanks for watching Super Nerds! It turns out that orbital mechanics is really hard when you haven't really studied it. Who knew! See you in Footnotes -- kH

    • @gamingjose2960
      @gamingjose2960 Před 4 lety +1

      🤙

    • @zaczane
      @zaczane Před 4 lety +10

      Question
      What about Massive ION Engines the size of Everest?
      Would they start slow, but start climbing to an eventual useful speed?

    • @CC-oj5qf
      @CC-oj5qf Před 4 lety +14

      It was a wonderful video, but an idea that wasn't addressed was using the moon to fuel the nuclear engines, somehow harnessing it's mass in order to lessen the amount of mass taken from Earth significantly. It's still implausible, but doing that again and again over the course of the time taken to get out of the solar system using other planets and their moons could potentially work. Only theoretically of course, as the technology required to absorb the other astral bodies is not technology we necessarily currently have, but the first step to reaching the stars could potentially be destroying Mars rather than walking on it. I'm not nearly as smart as you though, so I'm sure that there's a fault in the plan that you'd see that I don't, other than just current limitations in technology, but either way, keep up the good work.

    • @adamwitt7788
      @adamwitt7788 Před 4 lety +9

      So what you're saying is the Chinese equivalent of Hollywood isn't spinning out movies with complete garbage science? Examples of garbage movie plot points: you only use 10% of your brain, Dark Side of the Moon, "physics". Facts: you use 100% of your brain just not all of it at once because it doesn't all do the same thing, it's more accurate to call it The Far Side of the Moon because the Moon is in a locked orbit but still receives the same amount of light from the sun as Earth we just only see one side of the moon, this channel would be finished if Hollywood was more accurate according to science.

    • @Crabomax
      @Crabomax Před 4 lety +5

      So, our planet is a prison. Great video again!

  • @alphaxalex1634
    @alphaxalex1634 Před 4 lety +714

    Anyone getting a Patrick vibe from this?
    ‘We need to take the *Earth* and push it somewhere else!’

    • @darthvader0219
      @darthvader0219 Před 4 lety +80

      Patrick: Push!!
      People of Earth: (grunting)

    • @PaleGhost69
      @PaleGhost69 Před 4 lety +13

      I thought that when we got the sneak peak

    • @Nmethyltransferase
      @Nmethyltransferase Před 4 lety +16

      I can imagine the Republicans trying to suggest this solution in the near future, when climate change becomes unbearable.

    • @rickbautista2504
      @rickbautista2504 Před 4 lety +8

      I instantly remembered that Patrick idea when he said that

    • @augustuswayne9676
      @augustuswayne9676 Před 4 lety +3

      I love sponge Bob square pants !!

  • @moonboogien8908
    @moonboogien8908 Před 4 lety +390

    Mars: "hey earth, where you headed off to?"
    Earth: "cant talk, still thrusting"

  • @Adahn99
    @Adahn99 Před 4 lety +900

    Because Science: "You can't turn the Earth in a spacecraft"
    Kurzgesagt: "How to make your own Solar System spaceship at home"

    • @Adam-yu1dv
      @Adam-yu1dv Před 4 lety +19

      System

    • @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917
      @jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 Před 4 lety +63

      To be fair, Because Science explored what it would take to move only the earth with the goal of escaping a dying sun. Kurzgesagt's Stellar Engines video was about moving the whole solar system using the sun (even if it's partly for moving earth out of dangers like asteroids).

    • @sphee4149
      @sphee4149 Před 4 lety +61

      @@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 The stellar engine also extends the suns lifetime

    • @killkick177
      @killkick177 Před 3 lety +1

      Hahahaha ein deutscher haha :D

    • @Lokitellus
      @Lokitellus Před 3 lety +5

      @@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917 it’s about moving the sun to escape stars and black holes

  • @abdurrahmanf.a.5624
    @abdurrahmanf.a.5624 Před 4 lety +70

    People when Earth is close to Uranus :
    "Look at that, Uranus is so big"

  • @germandragoon6p108
    @germandragoon6p108 Před 4 lety +1123

    Alien: “WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!”
    Other Alien: “IT’S A FREAKING PLANET SPEEDING TOWARDS US!”

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 Před 4 lety +62

      XD they would be scared for their lives lol. Especialy when earth would get in the range of their planets gravity

    • @GrexTheCrabasitor
      @GrexTheCrabasitor Před 4 lety +67

      Other other alien liberated from area 51: "yo just me flexin on yall"

    • @shlang23
      @shlang23 Před 4 lety +47

      That's no moon

    • @daniellee8162
      @daniellee8162 Před 4 lety +48

      Independence day: we have spaceships nearly the size of your Moon
      Us:...ummm, ok. Don't bother coming, well just bring our home to you...literally.

    • @ArkaSaurusRex218
      @ArkaSaurusRex218 Před 4 lety +21

      Earth: Omae wae, Mo Sinderu
      Alien race: NANI!

  • @DreadtheMadSmith
    @DreadtheMadSmith Před 4 lety +142

    Getting Invader Zim flashbacks.
    Also those rockets would burn off the atmosphere when used.

    • @xbleaksquidx
      @xbleaksquidx Před 4 lety +25

      Hologram: My people worked themselves into extinction making our planet a working vessel!
      Zim: Why would you do that?
      Hologram: Because it's cool.

    • @pankajranga7611
      @pankajranga7611 Před 4 lety +3

      And create earthquakes and tsunami also

    • @theAraAra
      @theAraAra Před 4 lety +6

      That's mentioned in the story and alluded to in the film. That's why humans end up staying underground

    • @YeviCoulson
      @YeviCoulson Před 4 lety +2

      lmao i mean at least global warming isn't a problem since your leaving the sun but what would a hole in the atmosphere really do

    • @josephburchanowski4636
      @josephburchanowski4636 Před 4 lety +2

      "Also those rockets would burn off the atmosphere when used."
      Preferably those rockets are burning beyond the atmosphere. Since they are taller than mountains, it isn't a completely unfeasible at least with active support.

  • @ilikegamestoo9
    @ilikegamestoo9 Před 4 lety +268

    Today: “We did surgery on a grape.”
    3000: “We turned Africa into a jet engine!”

    • @alamdaali8776
      @alamdaali8776 Před 4 lety +3

      😠racist fuck. turn america into that

    • @lixzx007
      @lixzx007 Před 4 lety +21

      @@alamdaali8776actually in the movie the entire north hemisphere was covered with engine due to more land coverage if it makes you feel better.

    • @2dark_4fortnite88
      @2dark_4fortnite88 Před 4 lety +18

      @@alamdaali8776 awwwwe did you get butthurt

    • @sireducky8123
      @sireducky8123 Před 4 lety +5

      Alamda Ali wat? Are relly that sensitive 2019 relly hit u smh

    • @adwans1491
      @adwans1491 Před 4 lety +4

      @@alamdaali8776 african would be better because its in the center

  • @digitalis2977
    @digitalis2977 Před 4 lety +50

    Didn't even mention everyone suffocating after 2 days as the thrust nozzles blow all of the atmosphere off the planet in a giant rooster-tail wake of sadness and sparkly ice.

    • @Apersonfromasia
      @Apersonfromasia Před 3 lety +3

      If all the rockets was activated at once. Imagine the super loud boom it would make enough to kill some living organisms.

    • @sunflu
      @sunflu Před 2 lety +6

      In that case. We have to cancel all Hollywood productions. 😂

    • @Ariel_emerald
      @Ariel_emerald Před 2 lety +5

      this happened in the movie bro

    • @rollinghippo2940
      @rollinghippo2940 Před rokem

      @@Apersonfromasia not just some but completely lol

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy Před rokem +5

      Yeah. It's already established that most of earth's atmosphere is gone, and it's even less considering jupiter ate a bigger chunk of it.

  • @cjzyx1354
    @cjzyx1354 Před 4 lety +82

    Kyle: "earth orbits the sun more or less in a circle"
    Kepler: am I a joke to you?

    • @DwarfInBlues
      @DwarfInBlues Před 4 lety +15

      Meh, eccentricity of our orbit is a puny 0.017, technically still an ellipse, but really basically a circle.

    • @rajeshdas6539
      @rajeshdas6539 Před 4 lety +8

      @@DwarfInBlues *keppler triggered*

    • @jackielinde7568
      @jackielinde7568 Před 4 lety +6

      @@DwarfInBlues That puny 0.017 is 5 million kilometers. Also, our orbit deforms and springs back over the course of eons. That's how you get ice ages.

    • @balintkeszthelyi1293
      @balintkeszthelyi1293 Před 4 lety +2

      Also it is not elliptic the way people after Middleschool think (perihelion precession). In reality newtonian mechanics is not what you need to use in space since it is not true in bended space.

    • @peterhacke6317
      @peterhacke6317 Před 4 lety +2

      @@jackielinde7568 Iceages are almost entirely based on reasons comming from earth itself. After all the time of year earth is closest to the sun is the depth of winter for the mayority of people (around 3rd january).

  • @gekoultima6668
    @gekoultima6668 Před 4 lety +101

    In the great words of an even greater scientist
    “We should take it and push it over there”

  • @alphadragonn3685
    @alphadragonn3685 Před 4 lety +237

    The first thing I thought of was, once we leave our sun, wouldn't we have a HUGE problem of not HAVING a sun until we arrive at Alpha Centauri?

    • @jacob.rausch
      @jacob.rausch Před rokem +16

      Exactly what I was thinking!!!

    • @Rosawww
      @Rosawww Před rokem +79

      well in the movie is literally iceage everywhere

    • @jacob.rausch
      @jacob.rausch Před rokem +3

      @Michael Skinner i do not know what that means

    • @toddboyce3599
      @toddboyce3599 Před rokem +8

      What about running nuclear reactors? They provide warmth. We can still keep the atmosphere not frozen if we take huge chunks of frozen nitrogen and oxygen over to the reactor, where it will evaporate, go up into space, and go into orbit around earth again, and repeat. We can either survive in a (frozen over) submarine (Horrible idea.) or get the required infrastructure to build all those reactors. "what about cost?" It would be the end of the world. We could tell the companies that inflate the prices "Either you give us those building blocks for reactors for free, or we all die together."

    • @tuoshiwan5046
      @tuoshiwan5046 Před rokem +33

      In the movie, they put everyone in underground cities that are built under the thrusters, since they provide hear. The rest of the planet does indeed completely freeze over.

  • @Justicar333
    @Justicar333 Před 2 lety +36

    Just a few things to point out here. First off they aren't using the engines they entire way. Their getting up to speed and then coasting. Second they are also using gravity assist to reach speed. First from the sun and then followed by Jupiter where as the trailer reveals, problems arise. I wish you would have addressed those two factors in your video.

    • @AncientEvilSaiyan
      @AncientEvilSaiyan Před rokem +2

      most lack simple common sense, especially these CZcamsRS.

    • @doritoboi3504
      @doritoboi3504 Před rokem +1

      nerd explains give a great video on why no one would survive it

    • @villager736
      @villager736 Před rokem +1

      Another problem, what happens if you get off course or need to slow down, what then?

    • @thecomentingcat6280
      @thecomentingcat6280 Před rokem +2

      ​@@AncientEvilSaiyanUnreasonable hatred

    • @man-tb6xu
      @man-tb6xu Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@villager736turn off the engine on the back then turn on the front engine

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 4 lety +2076

    _CAN WE TURN EARTH INTO SPACESHIP?_
    *Elon Musk:* _Don't do that. Don't give me hope._

    • @sepalmq1229
      @sepalmq1229 Před 4 lety +15

      XD

    • @RyujinNoKami
      @RyujinNoKami Před 4 lety +11

      Bruh

    • @thecountalucard666
      @thecountalucard666 Před 4 lety +29

      Considering Musk baselessly called a man a pedophile for not endorsing his submarine… yeah, we probably shouldn’t give Musk hope.

    • @metalspider7735
      @metalspider7735 Před 4 lety +6

      Bro how many channels are u subbed to, i see u everywhere

    • @GaloreInfernoLionGaming
      @GaloreInfernoLionGaming Před 4 lety +9

      Oh don't worry sir we're not exactly giving you hope we're giving future man kind hope *I say in a deep movie trailer like voice*

  • @farklegriffen2624
    @farklegriffen2624 Před 4 lety +75

    “Why don’t we take Bikini Bottom and push it somewhere else...”
    -Patrick Star (Oct. 12, 2001)

    • @caru93
      @caru93 Před 4 lety +4

      Pretty sure that was way before 2012.

    • @xeth9074
      @xeth9074 Před 4 lety

      Why don’t we take our problems, and push it somewhere else.....

    • @farklegriffen2624
      @farklegriffen2624 Před 4 lety

      Joey Robinson, just checked and it’s 2001!

  • @emhgarlyyeung
    @emhgarlyyeung Před rokem +12

    The Wandering Earth ll is out there now! The movie is awesome! Blow my mind!
    Please also review and make some science video about it!

    • @M85331
      @M85331 Před rokem

      I like the first one better

    • @MWU8639
      @MWU8639 Před rokem +2

      @@M85331 The second one is prequel of the Original movie

  • @CryptoJordanVR
    @CryptoJordanVR Před 4 lety +131

    This is legitimately a strategy that Patrick Star would come up with! 😂

  • @kerbonaut2059
    @kerbonaut2059 Před 4 lety +182

    Now that you've done moving the earth part, can you PLEASE do the 'igniting jupiter' part?

    • @tarrantwolf
      @tarrantwolf Před 4 lety +20

      And how badly would earth be ripped apart by that ignition.

    • @bigdump8206
      @bigdump8206 Před 4 lety

      @@tarrantwolf agree

    • @dariondavis2488
      @dariondavis2488 Před 4 lety +15

      Let me save you the time
      Long story short
      R E A L L Y B I G B O O M

    • @AnthonySomes
      @AnthonySomes Před 4 lety +1

      @Owen Yin Jupiter... Possibly a great source of fusion fuel?

    • @joshchu
      @joshchu Před 4 lety +4

      we've already hit the science wall before that, some people did the math, roche limit for earth and jupiter is actually inside the jupiter radius.

  • @Jak_Nobody
    @Jak_Nobody Před 4 lety +148

    Kyle: Do you feel like you're moving right now? Probably not.
    California: Am I a joke to you?

    • @MachineRot
      @MachineRot Před 4 lety +4

      Keith Campbell fuck earthquakes man that shit shook my house

    • @InvntdXNEWROMAN
      @InvntdXNEWROMAN Před 4 lety +3

      Legit thought I was about to live the San Andreas movies.

    • @michaelkeith4322
      @michaelkeith4322 Před 4 lety +4

      Keith Campbell California is a joke. So many stupid politicians.

    • @Jak_Nobody
      @Jak_Nobody Před 4 lety +2

      @@michaelkeith4322 I don't disagree with that part, for sure!

    • @xBrabus76
      @xBrabus76 Před 4 lety +2

      And do I amuse you?
      - Homie the clown!

  • @mr.cschaosworkshop4100
    @mr.cschaosworkshop4100 Před rokem +3

    Kyle you scared the hell out of me at the end there with the “thank you so much for watching, Tedy” and I applaud you for it. I dont know the odds of me coming across a video where my name was randomly said, but I was happy to see it!

  • @Rosawww
    @Rosawww Před rokem +12

    if yall thinking why not build a space ship. watch the upcoming second movie.

  • @ZeeengMicro
    @ZeeengMicro Před 4 lety +198

    Imagine that you turn on the thruster while the earth still spinning.
    You could make the largest beyblade in the universe.

    • @dboot8886
      @dboot8886 Před 4 lety +8

      hans kris God forgive me... LET IT RIP!!

    • @humblesoldier5474
      @humblesoldier5474 Před 4 lety +1

      That would be so awesome until the forces atomized... asteroidized the planet. I used the universe sim, and upped Earths rpm... it doesn't look to good when we go super fast.

    • @KainaX122
      @KainaX122 Před 4 lety +1

      You're welcome
      czcams.com/video/zjXohtL7CP4/video.html

    • @NeP516
      @NeP516 Před 4 lety +1

      No, that's a quasar

    • @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982
      @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982 Před 4 lety

      You have to do it anyway in order to get the required tangential velocity . You need some wheelocity to it as well

  • @Canadian_Ry
    @Canadian_Ry Před 4 lety +39

    No-no-no, light speed is too slow!... we're gonna have to go right to... Ludicrous speed!

  • @Zulisian
    @Zulisian Před 4 lety

    I knew this youtube video was from The Wandering Earth film. Absolutely loved that film too, I put it on one night because it was a chinese with english dub thinking it'd put me to sleep, ended up watching it all.
    Such a fantastic movie.

  • @WORLDPEACE2628
    @WORLDPEACE2628 Před rokem +2

    This is, after all, a movie where everything is possible.

  • @HayderAbdulridha
    @HayderAbdulridha Před 4 lety +89

    But Kyle, you forgot about our friendly surrounding neighbors. We can use them for everything needed.

    • @Falcodrin
      @Falcodrin Před 4 lety +9

      We would definitely have time to set up massive operations pulling fuel from other planets.

    • @donalddavenport5224
      @donalddavenport5224 Před 4 lety +19

      We could easily move the earth to a safe place before or while it's becoming a red giant and gather fuel from asteroids to not deplete resources from earth. We are talking billions of years from now. We'll probably be visiting other planets or be dead from religious/political ideas by that time

    • @FelipeKana1
      @FelipeKana1 Před 4 lety +4

      True, but the rockets still look unfeaseble. And I think so much trust would possibly break the planet apart.

    • @kylefortner8709
      @kylefortner8709 Před 4 lety

      @@donalddavenport5224 not even considering what type of technology we would likely have developed. We're talking about a civilization that would be a few rungs (if not three) on the Kardeshev scale. There exists the possibility that conventional fuel types would be irrelevant as that we would be using some sort of magic-esque engine/thrust device. Perhaps something that runs on mini blackholes?

    • @aronious291
      @aronious291 Před 4 lety +1

      We wouldnt need to go to alpha centauri. Lets just go to the new goldilocks zone. K mr. Goldilocks?

  • @Y0uWinY
    @Y0uWinY Před 4 lety +277

    Can the earth crust even withstand the pressure from the rocket engine even if we can reach that amount of force?

    • @STartist.
      @STartist. Před 4 lety +9

      @@gb6710 haha yo mama joke funny

    • @myguychris7739
      @myguychris7739 Před 4 lety +4

      @@gb6710 Damn 😂

    • @darrekworkman8685
      @darrekworkman8685 Před 4 lety +22

      No, it would be a matter of distributing the force across the surface and not concentrating it all at a single point. That is for the case of 'breaking' or 'puncturing' the Earth's crust. There would be another concern with 'deforming' the Earth's surface. There would need to be some method of compensation to prevent this from happening.

    • @darrekworkman8685
      @darrekworkman8685 Před 4 lety +4

      @Rose arias Jenna prieto If the ground under them is soft enough they do.

    • @devlinmcbane7255
      @devlinmcbane7255 Před 4 lety +2

      You Win Yeap good question! If the physics was sound and it did shear; I imagine the solution would be a quad pillared dyson sphere anchored in four points to the earth’s more stable upper crust points... though these pillars would need a lot of geologists and physics majors to watch over due to the drifting tectonic plates... its a huge undertaking to even make a model of.

  • @astrochef7766
    @astrochef7766 Před 2 lety

    Ive been asking this questions for years that’s awesome this video exist thank you so much !

  • @eamonia
    @eamonia Před rokem

    You're great, dude. If I had kids I would insist they check your channel out. Thanks for being so cool. You're a great inspiration to young minds everywhere. I mean, I'm 37 and I love watching your stuff. Keep up the great work.

  • @bologna32
    @bologna32 Před 4 lety +185

    We should throw the water on earth but first dont forget to have 2 water bucket to make infinite source again

    • @gumedrop5214
      @gumedrop5214 Před 4 lety +1

      Clever thought😉😅

    • @silentdrew7636
      @silentdrew7636 Před 4 lety +1

      *3 water buckets.

    • @CharlesBalester
      @CharlesBalester Před 4 lety +5

      @@silentdrew7636 you can use 2, if you have a 2x2 hole in the ground and put water at 2 opposite corners the other corners fill themselves!

    • @Warfrog101
      @Warfrog101 Před 4 lety

      **snickers**

    • @silentdrew7636
      @silentdrew7636 Před 4 lety

      @@CharlesBalester last I checked that didn't work.

  • @David-yy6hp
    @David-yy6hp Před 4 lety +43

    Great video, but you missed a very big point. The gravity of earth would reduce the rocket engine's efficiency quite a bit, so depending on the height of the rocket, it may not even make a difference. In the case that it did have enough force to push its exhaust out of Earth's SOI(Sphere of Influence), unless the exhaust didn't collide with any large amount of gas on its way out, the force of the exhaust would slowly strip earth of its atmosphere.

    • @ninjahombrepalito1721
      @ninjahombrepalito1721 Před 4 lety +2

      The tzar bomba moved the Earth..

    • @David-yy6hp
      @David-yy6hp Před 4 lety +9

      @@ninjahombrepalito1721 Newton's third law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, proves that nothing could move the earth in relation to space unless something is ejected from earth. The bomb may have shaken the earth or possibly(I haven't done any research) changed the earths rotation, but if nothing is ejected from earth, how could the earth move in a certain direction.

    • @prestonc1483
      @prestonc1483 Před 4 lety +6

      There is also if the earth was used to power the rockets( by sacrificing the earth's mass for fuel) the earth would become easier to move over time with less and less mass making it possible to use some mass and need less fuel

    • @vincenoname
      @vincenoname Před 4 lety

      This will probably be on Because Science Footnotes

    • @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982
      @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982 Před 4 lety

      That is basically the rocket equation on a nutshell

  • @juanmillonschik3945
    @juanmillonschik3945 Před 10 měsíci +1

    12:06 ...and that's why i've always thought of this movie as a prequel to The Little Prince

  • @johnny_roots
    @johnny_roots Před 2 lety +3

    Cool video bro. In the movie mentioned in the beggining, they push Earth out of its orbit and use Jupiter's gravity to slingshot Earth away from the Solar System. But still I guess it wouldn't be nearly feasible lol

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
    @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache Před 4 lety +98

    I don't know Thor... Can we?
    *Let's turn real life into a real movie, Asguardians of the Galaxy.*

    • @ceptor699
      @ceptor699 Před 4 lety +3

      Speaking about Thor.....
      Why Asgard is flat?

    • @SkyRecruit18
      @SkyRecruit18 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ceptor699 because the author probably thought earth was flat

    • @DrD0000M
      @DrD0000M Před 4 lety +1

      @@SkyRecruit18 The au-Thor?

    • @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982
      @patnaikunidivijprithvime6982 Před 4 lety

      @@ceptor699 Asgard is not flat its basically a floating island above some kind of spherical portal

  • @conqiucius
    @conqiucius Před 4 lety +628

    Aliens earth invasion strike group halfway heading to earth...
    Aliens: What the hell is that thing in front of us?
    Aliens captain: WTF, who are they? they are on a collision course with us!
    Earthlings UEG: Please divert your course 15 degrees to your right side to avoid a collision.
    Aliens captain: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to your right side to avoid a collision.
    Earthlings UEG: Negative. You will have to divert your course 15 degrees to your right side to avoid a collision.
    Aliens captain: This is the Captain of HMS krypton lance. I say again, divert YOUR course.
    Earthlings UEG: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course.
    Aliens captain: THIS IS THE HMS KRYPTON LANCE, THE FASTEST AND SECOND LARGEST STAR BATTLE SHIP IN THE KRYPTONIC EMPIRE INTERSTELLAR FLEET. WE ARE ACCOMPANIED BY 1000 STAR DESTROYERS, 5000 GALAXY CRUISERS AND ONE MILLION SUPPORT STAR SHIPS. I DEMAND THAT YOU CHANGE YOUR COURSE 15 DEGREES TO YOUR RIGHT SIDE, I SAY AGAIN, THAT'S ONE FIVE DEGREES TO YOUR RIGHT, OR COUNTER-MEASURES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR FLEET.
    Earthlings UEG: This is a planet, over...

  • @Gabdube
    @Gabdube Před 4 lety +15

    It also really important that the exhaust begin higher than mt Everest, because otherwise it would eject a lot of the Earth's atmosphere along with it. The thruster's exhaust needs to be higher in altitude than most of the atmosphere, and preferably higher than the ozone layer even, 'cause we kinda need that too. Keeping the planet's atmosphere along with us is kinda the whole point of making the planet itself our seedship.

    • @edward3190
      @edward3190 Před rokem +2

      I don't think we would care much about atmosphere at that stage. The plan is to save the maximum number of people possible, not protecting the Earth.

    • @doggy101
      @doggy101 Před rokem +3

      @@edward3190 then how would they live without an atmosphere

    • @edward3190
      @edward3190 Před rokem +2

      @@doggy101 they live underground, the atmosphere underground and the atmosphere below the thrusters are not gone

    • @doggy101
      @doggy101 Před rokem +3

      @@edward3190 Without it, life as we know it wouldn’t exist. Not only does it contain the oxygen we need to live, but it also protects us from harmful ultraviolet solar radiation. It creates the pressure without which liquid water couldn’t exist on our planet’s surface. - nasa
      how are you gonna get water without water???

    • @edward3190
      @edward3190 Před rokem +1

      @@doggy101 did you not read my last comment? a significant amount atmosphere is not lost. the atmosphere underground and the atmosphere below the thrusters are not gone

  • @RedMenace446
    @RedMenace446 Před rokem +2

    love how he tries not to laugh when he starts explaining the crazy premise

  • @baconboy1547
    @baconboy1547 Před 4 lety +64

    I'm no scientist. But my gut tells me all those rockets would destroy our atmosphere, right? Wrong?

    • @seekertosecrets
      @seekertosecrets Před 4 lety +35

      Depending on the source of fuel. Destroying it? Maybe. Creating enough heat to cook everyone else? Most likely.

    • @peterhacke6317
      @peterhacke6317 Před 4 lety +7

      Depends on what exactly comes out of them, but yes we should probably put their tips out of the atmosphere.

    • @stewartleslie3292
      @stewartleslie3292 Před 4 lety +3

      To be fair, I think that's the plan of the CCP all along.

    • @badrequest5596
      @badrequest5596 Před 4 lety +2

      well if you made the rockets big enough so they'd go way beyond the edge of our atmosphere and ignite in space, i think we'd be okay. maybe. but it's firing inside our atmosphere, say goodbye to all that oxygen

    • @bengoodwin2141
      @bengoodwin2141 Před 4 lety +1

      If they were short enough to still be in the atmosphere, yes

  • @ArthurEKing8472
    @ArthurEKing8472 Před 4 lety +39

    Hey Kyle, love the show, and in total, I want to say that I actually really thoroughly agree with your assessment in the end, but yeah, there's a lot more I think that can be said on the subject.
    First of all, I think that the whole "fusion-engine" would be mandatory yes, but for more reasons than would be immediately apparent. A very large portion of the mass ejected through fusion-reactions would be ionized gasses and free-floating electrons. In other words, plasma. This is MANDATORY, as the only conceivable way to get the kinds of thrusts you'd need to have in order to produce the kinds of isp (Specific Impulse, or the level of efficiency of a rocket-engine) required would be to use a magnetic acceleration, much like ion-drives in the New Horizons mission. Basically you'd be turning the rocket-nozzles (Already the size of mount Everest) into massive particle-accelerators, accelerating the exhaust to a sizeable fraction of the speed of light to be able to get the highest isp-value possible.
    with isp's in the 15k+ range it IS doable. Unlikely, but do-able. Even the best ion drives today do reach somewhere close to 15k isp. So it's not impossible.
    Also, with the kinds of course, or trajectory you're talking about, the slow-spiral method, it makes it actually MORE efficient than a lot of other possible options. Also, you could use the slow-spiral to slow down the heating-up of the planet, as you'd be farther away from the sun. Lastly on that same subject, you could time your acceleration and vectors to sling past massive objects in the solar-system like Jupiter in a sling-shot maneuver, stealing some of their angular momentum on your way out of the solar system, to accelerate Earth fast-enough that it's feasible. This way you don't have to provide all the thrust yourself. And if you can (Like the voyager probes) can get to multiple gas-giants on your way out, it's actually a lot easier to get the velocity needed to escape the solar system.
    That said, there are LOTS of other problems that exist afterwards. Firstly, the atmosphere, and biosphere aren't static. So you'd need to take ALL of that below the surface. Seal off things like the volcanos and other things that spew matter out onto the surface of the planet, as almost none of that is going to survive. Also, even getting to Alpha-Centauri at 42 km/s is still going to take centuries. And then there's the problem of slowing down once you get there.
    Not only all of that, but you need to continue a lot of those fusion-reactors to be able to provide enough heat and power to supply the Earth with the energy it's entire bio-system needs to survive the several centuries in space. Also the Magnetosphere isn't static either, and would need to be maintained, or else the only thing keeping us safe from cosmic rays goes away...
    There are SO many logistical problems that need to be resolved, I don't think it's necessarily feasible, practical, or plausible. Possible? Well, nothing's impossible, lol. But highly unlikely.
    If you want to save a significant portion of the life on Earth there are lots of other methods. You're probably better off doing things like using a ground-based linear accelerator to accelerator generational ships out of the Solar System, leaving the planet itself to die. It's harsh, but it's a lot more likely to succeed. And if you can send enough of those ships, giving them all the technology to set up first an asteroid-based culture, I mean, you wouldn't even have to leave the solar system for that one! Start setting up shop around Jupiter, Saturn, etc. Titan, and Europa would have a pretty good chance of being liveable for at least a few million if not billion years. Giving you lots more time to spread farther, out to Alpha Centauri and beyond. Heck, visit places like Trappist, or Teagarden's Star, both close with possibly Earth-Like candidates, that would take far LESS work setting up a new Earth 2.0 than rebuilding Earth into a starship.
    In the end, it's just a question of what's more feasible. And this option, I think is one of the least feasible. You do manage to touch on a lot of the key points, and I'm just trying to bring to light a few of the others.

    • @torgrimmyt3549
      @torgrimmyt3549 Před 4 lety +3

      Worthwhile read; thanks. :)

    • @ArthurEKing8472
      @ArthurEKing8472 Před 4 lety +1

      @@torgrimmyt3549 Glad I could give you some food for thought, lol.

    • @ArthurEKing8472
      @ArthurEKing8472 Před 4 lety

      @@SapioiT Well thanks for that. Never heard of it. But What's SFIA stand-for?

  • @stevenkaeser8583
    @stevenkaeser8583 Před 4 lety +1

    The concept of flying Cities, carrying manufacturing to resources in the Cosmos. Thank you, James Blish.

  • @angelofhell3701
    @angelofhell3701 Před 4 lety +7

    2:12 “how much energy would be needed to FLING it out of it’s orbit?”
    Me: _Sees the Earth smash into a random Star Nearby._
    Well, shit.

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 Před 4 lety +107

    This is like if cavemen 40,000 years ago thought: _Hey, one day we will go to the moon. Shouldn't we be working on that now?_

    • @sid6280
      @sid6280 Před 4 lety +12

      they were its just we procrastinated 40,000 years :P

    • @Handles_Are_Bad.Phuk-them-off
      @Handles_Are_Bad.Phuk-them-off Před 4 lety +6

      the problems that had to solve 40k years ago towards that end were domestication and agriculture, they managed those in a mere 25-30k. What total mad lad's, i'd have thunk i'd take twice that.

    • @sid6280
      @sid6280 Před 4 lety +7

      @@Handles_Are_Bad.Phuk-them-off they wanted to go to the moon to get away from agriculture

    • @joevenespineli6389
      @joevenespineli6389 Před 4 lety

      Probably worried about what to eat and not getting eaten

    • @LandeTLSgPlus
      @LandeTLSgPlus Před 4 lety +1

      Warhammer 40k is set roughly 40,000 years i the future. Id say we are working our way towards that now:-P

  • @empireempire3545
    @empireempire3545 Před 4 lety +28

    Because Science: Can we turn earth into a spaceship?
    Isaac Arthur: that's level 1. Next thing: the entire solar system.

    • @SashaMinkh
      @SashaMinkh Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, little bit of SFIA lite today.

    • @jejcnsjdndjskdjrn8329
      @jejcnsjdndjskdjrn8329 Před 4 lety +1

      No, The whole galaxy

    • @humblesoldier5474
      @humblesoldier5474 Před 4 lety +1

      Today we're going to be discussing how to deconstruct the entirety of the Sol system to move it to another system while the Sun enters the Red Giant stage of it's life, so get a drink, and some snacks...

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle Před 4 lety +3

      Naw. We'll star-mine the Sun to extend its lifespan. Remove the iron and helium and put hydrogen back into it. By doing so, we can use the sun as the engine to push us to a new solar system.

    • @3moirai
      @3moirai Před 4 lety +1

      I am surprised he didn't reference Isaac Arthur's discussions on this.

  • @onichow4313
    @onichow4313 Před 2 lety +1

    'Beautiful, isn't it. The only home we've ever known' That the reason why in the movie humans take the earth with them.Just because it's The only home we've ever known

  • @mariebcfhs9491
    @mariebcfhs9491 Před 4 lety +36

    "Earth is so dang heavy"
    Earth-chan: duck you I'm not heavy~!

  • @ryanlange6766
    @ryanlange6766 Před 4 lety +17

    Arthur Issac's "Planet Ships" video sums it up and goes beyond, he should be the supernerd :) great vid tho

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila Před 4 lety +2

      OH my another fan of Issac here

    • @becausescience
      @becausescience  Před 4 lety +4

      He does good work. Just talking about this movie specifically though, because so many of you asked about it! -- kH

    • @ryandoesstuffapparently1540
      @ryandoesstuffapparently1540 Před 4 lety +1

      I think in one of Isaac’s episodes he mentions parking gravitational body opposite our point from the sun and using the gravitational attraction to slowly pull our orbit outward. At least enough to survive the red giant expansion, and then reversing the process to get closer to the white dwarf stage of the sun. This could extend the life of the earth by billions of years.

  • @jacobv3396
    @jacobv3396 Před 4 lety +37

    Sounds like a problem for Isaac Arthur! Isaac Arthur has a video called Planet Ships that delves into this topic.

    • @RevantheBlack
      @RevantheBlack Před 4 lety +1

      Jacob V exactly! moon- based Gravity Tractor

    • @Sherool
      @Sherool Před 4 lety

      I believe those would theoretically require a fully functional Dyson Sphere and some artificial blank holes. Sure once you have that kind of tech and resources moving planets around become more feasible, but strapping rockets to a planet, fusion or otherwise I don't think will ever be a thing.

  • @MeowAbout
    @MeowAbout Před 3 lety +1

    Asteroids as fuel? There. I've made "completely implausible" into "mostly implausible."

  • @TheAndrewWorleyable
    @TheAndrewWorleyable Před 4 lety

    What's that thing that looks like a scar around your neck? Thank you for this video, the perfect compliment to an original idea. I really enjoyed the movie, and was excited to find a video like this as soon as It was over. Much love from Oregon!

  • @BlankPicketSign
    @BlankPicketSign Před 4 lety +46

    how does the math change if we just raise Earth's orbit out of the surface of the new sun, and into the NEW Goldielocks' Zone?
    Why leave the solarsystem when we can just move to a higher, more comfortable orbit? (As if that even helps the math of this ridiculous idea XD) By the way love the show *Fistbump!

    • @Falcodrin
      @Falcodrin Před 4 lety +3

      That would require much more difficult math. You would have to map a trajectory and figure out where the new orbit should be. Predicting that new orbit accurately would be difficult and if you missed you wouldn't have time to correct your error

    • @Handles_Are_Bad.Phuk-them-off
      @Handles_Are_Bad.Phuk-them-off Před 4 lety +2

      @@Falcodrin its not like the expansion of the sun will be an overnight event, it will happen imperceptibly over the course of millennia as such you totally could just start out in about 5 million year's from now and course correct as you go/need

    • @BigGoronSword
      @BigGoronSword Před 4 lety

      That may buy us a little more time, but it'll be best we move out before then sun goes supernova.

    • @BlankPicketSign
      @BlankPicketSign Před 4 lety +4

      @@BigGoronSword Uuuuuh I HIGHLY DOUBT our sun has enough mass to go super nova... like.. at all

    • @jnawk83
      @jnawk83 Před 4 lety +2

      @@BlankPicketSign given the limit is defined in terms of.solar masses and is greater than 1.....

  • @Enzo-pr1mj
    @Enzo-pr1mj Před 4 lety +41

    but if we escape the solar system, we'll die stone cold

    • @mitochondria794
      @mitochondria794 Před 4 lety +10

      Can I get a "hell yeah"

    • @ScorpSt
      @ScorpSt Před 4 lety +2

      We'll be able to survive with cybernetic enhancements. We'll become a sort of "Cybermen" if you will.

    • @DwarfInBlues
      @DwarfInBlues Před 4 lety

      That is assuming 100% efficiency of thrusters. I think the opposite is much more rlevant. We'd liquefy our planet long before we move sufficient distance away. (Same applies to vast energies from the actual planet rotation that needs to be dissipated)

    • @96ace96
      @96ace96 Před 4 lety +4

      We can make our own sun. We'd just need some really big lamps.

    • @ziggy78eog
      @ziggy78eog Před 4 lety +2

      And that's the bottom line, 'cause Stone Cold said so!

  • @BattGaming
    @BattGaming Před 4 lety +20

    My question: what happens to the earth's core in this scenario? Wouldn't forcing the rotation of the earth to stop also effect the fluid dynamics happening in the core? If so how would that effect everything we depend on, even the magnetic field generated by the movement of core and mantle material?

    • @hanneswiggenhorn2023
      @hanneswiggenhorn2023 Před rokem +3

      The earthquakes would probably be devastating and having winds with 1000km/h of speed all around the equator wouldn't make it any better. The magnetic field could also suffer. The thing is, we don't stop the core from rotating, we "just" stop the crust, so the magnetic field might even stay unchanged for a good amount of time

    • @gorilladisco9108
      @gorilladisco9108 Před rokem

      Also what will happen to the earth's crust? Earth currently is like egg, with hard shell and gooey insides. The shell (crust) may not be able to sustain that much force, and the rockets will sink or worse, pierce through to the other side.

    • @Rippleman5974
      @Rippleman5974 Před rokem

      Somebody been smokin some weed man.

  • @xxlordbelxx1368
    @xxlordbelxx1368 Před 4 lety +1

    Tidal force equations argue that stopping the spinning of the earth would also cause it to draw into the sun. Increasing the rate of spin however would cause us to drift away as the spin resists gravity per gyroscopic flux.

  • @toryunaminosaki1022
    @toryunaminosaki1022 Před 4 lety +1523

    I'm pretty sure it would be easier to just build an actual spaceship

    • @Neonsilver13
      @Neonsilver13 Před 4 lety +176

      Agreed, the movie is quite good, but I did wonder why they didn't just build a fleet of spaceships and put as many people as possible into cryo and send them off. Considering the time and resources all this engines must have taken, I'm sure they could have easily built as many spaceships as they needed to take in the people they allowed to live in their underground cities. Besides, even if all this works, there is still the question wether or not the planet could be integrated in a new solar system once they arrived in a viable system or if the planet could be made hospitable again after the voyage, just looking for a new viable planet seems far more practical.
      And a bunch of spaceships would have decentralized the humans and lowered the chance of a single event wiping out humanity as a whole.

    • @ionsilver557
      @ionsilver557 Před 4 lety +351

      @@Neonsilver13 In the original sci-fi novel , human civilization actually splits up to two parties: the spaceship party and the Earth party. And the Earth party finally wins because spaceship party admits that they cannot build real "generation spaceship fleet" that can support a whole civilization. In my opinion it's just not a very convincing reason. But the author himself once told the truth in an interview: he called himself a solid spaceship party member, and believe that generation spaceship fleet is the form of a higher level civilization, but "the planet spaceship" is an absolutely epic sci-fi scene, so epic and thrilling that he cannot just let it go. So... it's there.

    • @meteorbullet3474
      @meteorbullet3474 Před 4 lety +134

      think of it in another way, if it's just building spaceships, it will be just another common scifi movie without any new ideas and lack creativity. we've seen hundreds of spaceship migration films.

    • @apopirate
      @apopirate Před 4 lety +32

      @@meteorbullet3474 was there really hundreds of "spaceship migration films"? Can you name some? I would like to watch them. Or, you know, one or two will do...

    • @toryunaminosaki1022
      @toryunaminosaki1022 Před 4 lety +33

      If you're gonna move the planet, it would seem like more sense to push Earth further out as the sun expands, rather than kicking it out completely.
      But I admit, haven't watched the movie, so I'm not sure what the issue with the sun is, exactly

  • @nil981
    @nil981 Před 4 lety +11

    The most impressive feat of engineering ever?
    Isaac Arthur: hold my coffee.

    • @becausescience
      @becausescience  Před 4 lety

      Meaning if it actually happened -- kH

    • @nil981
      @nil981 Před 4 lety

      @@becausescience then yes, it would be supremely impressive. Like how Kyle can convince everyone that he isnt thor from the mcu.

  • @ClimberD-tn3xl
    @ClimberD-tn3xl Před 4 lety +5

    When he said "push it somewhere else" did anyone else think of the spongebob episode when they pushed bikini bottom somewhere else to save it from the Alaskan bull worm?

  • @daniel.u.thibault
    @daniel.u.thibault Před 3 lety +1

    4:00 Energetically, increasing the Earth's velocity from 30 to 42 km/s is the same (in magnitude) as slowing it all the way down to zero.

  • @1whoDoesSimply
    @1whoDoesSimply Před 4 lety +50

    8:57
    I just started laughing because of how damn overkill this is conceptually

  • @Chazulu2
    @Chazulu2 Před 8 měsíci +1

    So, the difference between 0.3% and 98+% is fairly significant, and I think a large portion of the difference could be addressed by considering more specifically the type of engine and portion of the earth, comets and asteroids used.
    If we picture the engine as reaching up into the high atmosphere where heat loss and inefficiencies are less, then it's plausible that the lower .3% figure could be more relevant.
    Specifically, if the crust and tectonic plates of earth were solidified and made more solid, for example by using shale oil in the crust to expand and create concrete throughout the crust of the earth closing the ring of fire, then not only could humanity prevent earthquakes and volcanoes, but we could build a large engine on a volcanic mountain, like the mountains near Argentina Chile, Bolivia, and Paraguay, that could act as a much more efficient type of rocket due to the scale, while adding water to lava which would sink to the core when solidified. The water could be refueled using comets and asteroids, and moving the planet to the orbit of Jupiter, and then using a particle accelerator built near mt Everest could induce fusion deep in Jupiters great red spot allowing us to push it towards the sun, and use star lifting to make the sun last longer, while giving us another star.

  • @stefanhoffmann5281
    @stefanhoffmann5281 Před rokem +1

    Sorry but the Galactic Handbook for Developed Civilizations has a whole chapter dedicated to the problem. Namely Chapter 3: Preparations and Strategies for the Red Giant Problem. Including pictuered solution!
    It describes the weak and the strong strategy.
    The weak strategy for underdeveloped species goes like this: We provide 20k larger asteroids with ion engines, and harvest with the help of swing by maneuvers from planets in higher orbit kinetic energy which we supply to the earth. After 15 million years already first successes are measurable. But it is only about staying the earth in the habitable zone of the sun.
    The journey to another star is the strong strategy - if e.g. a supernova is pending.
    For this we need a Dyson sphere / Dyson swarm to collect energy in form of antimatter. Having enough together ( I think it was 10 ^ 8 tons) we can start: We need only 1-100 thrusters. There we accelerate the masses to 99,995 % of the speed of light. Changes 1 kg to 100 kg. Some civilizations have alternatively chosen photon engines. This is also possible. Before, of course, the lithosphere must be adapted: At least 30% of the liquid lava must solidify otherwise we have an hupty dumpty scenario. And of course the journey must to be short in time. The earth surface is uninhabitable from the very start. The goal is always that the oceans do not freeze to the bottom.

  • @julianroth326
    @julianroth326 Před 4 lety +184

    Reads title: How d'you solve the icing problem?

    • @raincloud5259
      @raincloud5259 Před 4 lety +10

      Elon: the earth is advance in any waay

    • @Videosv135
      @Videosv135 Před 4 lety +11

      Might wanna look into it

    • @AnjanaBSubba
      @AnjanaBSubba Před 4 lety +4

      Watch the movie...it has an explanation.

    • @roberthicks1612
      @roberthicks1612 Před 4 lety +10

      IF we were to use Mercury as a gravity engine (i.e. use it to accelerate the earth and moon gradually) the moon would still be orbiting the earth. We could build huge Fusion plants on the moon and build huge infrared radiators that would heat the earth was it orbited the earth.

    • @davidbosch7061
      @davidbosch7061 Před 4 lety +7

      OMG I love you 3000 julian

  • @nekowerewolf9769
    @nekowerewolf9769 Před 4 lety +82

    "do you feel like youre moving right now?"
    Me: *starts shaking violently* "YES"

  • @donk5058
    @donk5058 Před rokem +1

    Idk where or when but I remember hearing about slowly pushing the Earth out of orbit wit mirrors and the power of the sun

  • @rath3715
    @rath3715 Před 4 lety

    Honestly, this video makes it more convincing not less. With the caveat of those insane nuclear engine speeds that 0.3% total mass of the Earth number is way better than I was expecting. Yes, we only have access currently to 1% of the Earth at the moment but like, if we are building mountain-sized engines I don't see why we wouldn't be able to overcome the engineering difficulties of pumping liquid rock directly from the mantle instead of using crust material. Heck, imagine just slapping one of your engines overtop a volcano which is already basically a hole to the mantle (I'm a chemist, not a geologist don't quote me on this.) 0.003 reduction in volume would probably be a manageable surface area loss since the earth is huge something like 2% which is a lot, but probably a similar sacrifice to building the rockets in the first place. Actually, now that I think about it we might actually GAIN useable landmass since the tectonic plates splitting under the oceans would start shrinking together instead, creating new mountain ranges and maybe even new continents. (again not a geologist)

  • @runefaustblack
    @runefaustblack Před 4 lety +22

    Now please adress the consequences of stopping the Earth on its tracks and/or taking it out of the Sun's gravitational influence and heat zone.

  • @rammuertoanimations4664
    @rammuertoanimations4664 Před 4 lety +31

    I freakin KNEW you couldn't resist doing an episode on this movie/book! :D

  • @ivosarak959
    @ivosarak959 Před 4 lety +1

    Gravitational pushing by using some close passing asteroid has been proposed as a solution for planet moving, but there are other bodies (like Jupiter) what may throw wrench into the mix to prevent safe voyage to much higher orbit around the Sun.

  • @100iloff
    @100iloff Před 4 lety

    I don't see this being a better idea than just jumping on a few thousand spaceships, take a big nap and arrive at Pandora in time for dinner.

  • @helloanb
    @helloanb Před 4 lety +56

    Hi Kyle! Love your videos (and envy your hair).
    Lets say a few thousand years from now we develop those fusion engines and that reduces the fuel and space requirements and we find a way to use the magma inside earth as a propellant.
    Is the earth structurally strong enough to undertake such a journey or will it fall apart like a dried lump of clay?

    • @MoraFermi
      @MoraFermi Před 4 lety +1

      In that aspect, the Earth is mostly a balloon filled with (wery hot) goo. It would get completely torn apart.

    • @ninjahombrepalito1721
      @ninjahombrepalito1721 Před 4 lety +4

      Anythibg can be pushed if accelerated gently.

    • @jeremybrimmer1990
      @jeremybrimmer1990 Před 4 lety

      There is possibility, and then there is probability

    • @JustSayingitslore
      @JustSayingitslore Před 4 lety

      @@jeremybrimmer1990 What if we just use mars and other planets and bodies in the solar system

    • @jeremybrimmer1990
      @jeremybrimmer1990 Před 4 lety

      @@JustSayingitslore a kinetic chain of planets magnetically and gravitationally balanced making their way thru the universe; a super cool slinky.

  • @PyroMancer2k
    @PyroMancer2k Před 4 lety +71

    It would be easier to just stop the sun from going Red Giant with Star Lifting.
    EDIT: Because people ask about star lifting check out Isaac Arthur's vid on it. czcams.com/video/pzuHxL5FD5U/video.html

    • @ChemoshKamos
      @ChemoshKamos Před 4 lety +5

      What is Star Lifting?

    • @alexyadayada4487
      @alexyadayada4487 Před 4 lety +7

      xenodorian en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_lifting

    • @EnragedPlatypus
      @EnragedPlatypus Před 4 lety +27

      ​@@ChemoshKamos It's a term for extracting the matter from stars. Changing how much matter a star has, would allow us to control how quickly it's burning through its fuel, but that's like "We created a solar system from scratch" levels of tech.

    • @Falcodrin
      @Falcodrin Před 4 lety +18

      Arthurians represent!

    • @Nukepositive
      @Nukepositive Před 4 lety +11

      It would be even easier to just build colony ships totaling the volume of earth's biosphere and roam around from there.

  • @kiritosharem2461
    @kiritosharem2461 Před 2 lety

    Thank youu🙆‍♀️🤗

  • @Wolfen443
    @Wolfen443 Před 2 lety +1

    Is just simpler to build large Space Stations like the Death Star to carry large numbers of people out of the solar system.

  • @niels8096
    @niels8096 Před 4 lety +59

    Hi Kyle,
    Question: would the earths crust also be able to handle the pressure of the earth rockets thrusters? Or would the tectonic plates warp so much that the rockets will end up in giant Volcano's?
    Love your show,
    Niels

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před 4 lety +6

      Well, the mantle, while being rock, is plastic and mobile on geologic timescales. The thing is, Kyle set the timescale to be but 15 years, which is ridiculously fast for how large of an engineering project he is proposing. Knowing the sun will explode in 5 _billion_ years gives you some heads-up for preparing for and implementing the solution to the problem.

    • @SunflowerSpotlight
      @SunflowerSpotlight Před 4 lety

      I wondered as well!

    • @ArmoredNeko
      @ArmoredNeko Před 4 lety +4

      @@kindlin But in the story the sun is exploding, like right now? I didn't watch the show but I remember the sun exploded when they get to the edge of the solar system.

    • @lordundeadrat
      @lordundeadrat Před 4 lety +12

      Oh wow, if that was the only problem this would create. The earths crust couldn't really put up with this kind of abuse, no. But you wouldn't have to worry about that because the rocket exhaust would heat the atmosphere to boiling in no time flat. You'd have to build the rockets tall enough to prevent that. Like sub orbital height. No measly little mountain sized rocket is gonna be tall enough to avoid that.
      Then there's the little problem of the earth quickly freezing solid as the sun becomes more distant. This would happen alarmingly fast and result in the surface becoming totally uninhabitable after just a tiny fraction of the trip.
      Tectonic activity would skyrocket the globe over, though. It might not shove the crust in to the mantel right away. But it wouldn't be a pleasant ride on the safe side of the planet ether.
      There is a safer way of ejecting the earth from the solar system. Instead of using the rockets to push the Earth. We could, instead, push much smaller (relatively speaking) objects along Earths orbit. This would require a deep time scale and countless billions of flybys. But would could eventually gravity assist the whole planet out of the solar system. We save lots of energy doing this too. As we don't have to push these other objects nearly as hard. We're just sort of redirecting them to Earth and robbing them of their orbital velocity.
      Do not do this. This is an awful idea. The longer you think about it. The worse it gets.

    • @Knight-Bishop
      @Knight-Bishop Před 4 lety +6

      @@lordundeadrat Oh, it gets better. Or worse, I should say. I haven't seen it but I've heard and seen a bit about it. Stopping the rotation causes the oceans to wipe out a huge chunk of the population but they let it happen because they'll only be able to support a much smaller one. The planet does freeze almost right away, and it looks like most of the time anyone is outside of anything pressurized on the surface they are in environment suits; the visual effects show the planet leaving a trail behind so I'm assuming that is supposed to depict the atmosphere being blown off but I would've figured it would've been gone so quick that there wouldn't be anything left.
      Yet, they don't mention tectonic stuff until the main drama of the plot occurs. Get this: they decided the best place to put most of the people was in underground shelter cities adjacent to the thrusters, not in the leading hemisphere. I'm assuming to be support and repair laborers the for the systems. The rest are probably constantly mining out fuel. So, clearly they weren't thinking about pushing down on the crust. If that's where they put everyone. But, that's not all by far: they plan to use a cliché slingshot around Jupiter for an assist (and Jupiter's horrific radiation belt just seems to have been completely ignored); but apparently only NOW is when everyone suddenly remembers the Earth's tectonic system, not when coming up with the engines. The tidal effects of Jupiter start causing massive gravity-driven quakes that, among other massive issues, take some of the engines offline. Offline though, not collapsed, I think that and surface displacement are part of the explanation for why they have all that mountain's width of superstructure built around them (again not talking realism but I guess that's the idea). So... With several of the engines down, while everyone rushes to repair them, Earth starts to approach Jupiter's Roche Limit; which I believe they put faaaar too close to the visible atmosphere. You know what their big idea is? Use some of the bigger engines facing Jupiter's atmosphere to ignite the hydrogen with a particularly large, focused blast from the exhaust. Yeah. Igniting Jupiter's atmosphere with the fusion engines will simply blow the Earth away. 🤦‍♂️
      This movie makes Mortal Engines look like a logical, reasonable approach to the end of the world. Also, like Mortal Engines, the original written story doesn't focus on the mechanics or feasibility of the setting, rather the political and personal effects the situation creates. In the novella, they don't get so close to Jupiter to have all that additional drama; rather people start to wonder if the sun is actually going to have the event predicted, and talks of the unrest and distrust that creates within the remaining population.

  • @Moxxuren
    @Moxxuren Před 4 lety +34

    Scientists from the year 3019 watching this: just use a tractor beam lol

    • @fruz1378
      @fruz1378 Před 2 lety

      If there are any humans left in 3019, which is really not a given already lol

  • @dak3278
    @dak3278 Před rokem

    Good explanation for a great underrated movie

  • @jpvibe
    @jpvibe Před 4 lety

    This is Awesome !!!

  • @olafim299
    @olafim299 Před 4 lety +51

    You didn't account for the earth's loss of mass while escaping the solar system, like when we throw away 1% of earth as fuel the rest of the journey will be 1% easier because the pull of the sun is now 1% weaker.

    • @aaron670
      @aaron670 Před 4 lety +11

      I could be mistaken but I believe he used the Classic rocket equation which takes into account starting mas and ending mass.

    • @jamesburleson1916
      @jamesburleson1916 Před 4 lety +15

      Actually the rocket equation does take that into account.

    • @becausescience
      @becausescience  Před 4 lety +12

      @@jamesburleson1916 Correcting the corrections! -- kH

    • @jonbuchan1930
      @jonbuchan1930 Před 4 lety +2

      However wouldn't r in the gravitational potential energy equation increase thus reducing (very slightly) the amount of fuel needed?

    • @TheMarshmellowLife
      @TheMarshmellowLife Před 4 lety +2

      If you are going to be that picky, then you should look at how much mass the sun looses per year through the solar wind and stuff. Which I read was enough to widen the earth's orbit 1.5 centimeters per year as of now.

  • @hanneswiggenhorn2023
    @hanneswiggenhorn2023 Před rokem +1

    What also shouldn't be forgotten: once you accelerate, you also need to decelerate at the destination

  • @mathdantastav2496
    @mathdantastav2496 Před 2 lety +1

    we can go hunting for asteroids as we pass by the asteroid belt, and later the kuiper belt for fuel

  • @mycool8980
    @mycool8980 Před 4 lety +27

    What about a gravity tractor? Rather than stopping the rotation and covering half the earth in engines

    • @CarFreeSegnitz
      @CarFreeSegnitz Před 4 lety +7

      Correct. A gravity tractor would take the form of a swarm of asteroids. These asteroids would be aimed to just in front of Earth in its orbit around the sun. The asteroids' orbit would be much closer to the sun and the Earth's would be shifted outward slightly.
      And the asteroids could be reused repeatedly. Rigged with solar sails these asteroids would build their orbits up again then made to pass in front of the Earth again.
      But this scheme would take millions of years to have a significant effect on Earth. Attempting to fling the Earth into interstellar space inside of 15 years would inflict the Earth with massive catastrophe likely liquifying the Earth's crust.

    • @simonwinn8757
      @simonwinn8757 Před 4 lety +2

      If we talking futuristic technology, we would make a swarm of satellites around the sun to power some Nicoll-Dyson lasers, that would be aimed at the Moon to push it, in turn dragging Earth with it gravity.

    • @gandalftheantlion
      @gandalftheantlion Před 4 lety +1

      Simon Winn it will be negligible because the sun is bigger and the moon a thousand times smaller.

  • @LunarDelta
    @LunarDelta Před 4 lety +33

    There's an old science fiction story called "With Friends Like These" by Alan Dean Foster where humanity *does* convert all of Earth into a giant factory/spaceship. The effects this Earthship exerts are powerful enough to not only fly the Earth around space, but to bring the moon along with it.

  • @williamschnl
    @williamschnl Před rokem

    I think we can do it (theoritically on sci-fi), in 5 steps:
    1. Space mining, we mine planets, gather resources.
    2. Use the resources to build extremely huge batteries and extremely huge solar panels.
    3. We store solar energies for years before starting the expedition.
    4. Build huge electric propulsion systems while we're waiting for the batteries to be fully charged.
    5. Once it is built, and the batteries are fully charged, we can start the expedition.

  • @matthewsmith4075
    @matthewsmith4075 Před rokem

    This video makes Pearson's Puppeteers look themselves in the eyes.

  • @rachparov
    @rachparov Před 4 lety +23

    Humans : We might expect huge asteroids passing by.
    Aliens : We might expect flying earth passing by.

  • @sinamehdizadeh1433
    @sinamehdizadeh1433 Před 4 lety +10

    Hey Kyle
    You can use solar sails to accelrate earth away from the sun.
    But in this scenario you would need a sail with the surface area of about 4 × 10¹⁹ m² which is about 600,000 the surface area of one hemisphere of earth!
    You would need a circular sail with a radius of 3.6 millione kilometers! That is nearly 600 times the radius of the earth!
    So it doesn't matter what method you are going to use, it is really really improbable.
    Thnx for the video. It is so cool

    • @aurigo_tech
      @aurigo_tech Před 4 lety +2

      Yes, quite a lot, but still way easier to do than moving the earth using rockets.

    • @Mastermind8908
      @Mastermind8908 Před 4 lety

      You had my attention with your professional calculations until you used "witch" instead of "which".

    • @sinamehdizadeh1433
      @sinamehdizadeh1433 Před 4 lety

      @@Mastermind8908
      Thnx for the corrction

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy Před rokem

      @@aurigo_tech that's just wrong. a solar sail that size is 100% infeasible

  • @abhinavavenkatakrishnamarr6929

    This channel is seriously underrated

  • @simbaking6338
    @simbaking6338 Před 4 lety +1

    It works for the movie because its a movie....but in real life,the whole concept is totally nuts!!!!!

  • @eldritchangel4058
    @eldritchangel4058 Před 4 lety +35

    Patrick: We should take the Earth, and PUSH it somewhere else!
    Squidward: That idea may be just crazy enough...TO GET US ALL KILLED!
    Me: We'll never know till we try.

    • @Dan-rw2dq
      @Dan-rw2dq Před 4 lety

      I was thinking of that episode.

    • @logantidwell7698
      @logantidwell7698 Před 4 lety

      I think we could know.... But let's just say screw it and go anyway

  • @quincytheodore
    @quincytheodore Před 4 lety +41

    The movie has this guy shooting machinegun to Jupiter while shouting "Screwww you jupiter!", how can you argue with that lol?

    • @Lucivius27
      @Lucivius27 Před 4 lety +2

      It was epically stupid and hilarious scene

    • @thassalantekreskel5742
      @thassalantekreskel5742 Před 4 lety

      May I just say I love your icon? Okami was definitely one of the most stylistically iconic games of all time, not to mention just a load of fun.

    • @quincytheodore
      @quincytheodore Před 4 lety

      oh ty, yeah it's so underrated. I had fun with it, and it'd be nice to see Okami franchise with current gen power. Too bad it didn't sell well.

    • @ChengHooSew
      @ChengHooSew Před 4 lety

      I don't even know why he's carrying a gatling gun to begin with

    • @jonathonpolk3592
      @jonathonpolk3592 Před 4 lety +3

      Yeah, the gatling gun scene was a bit unnecessary, but it wasnt really funny. It was sad; he was shooting at jupiter out of despair because they were all going to die. Nothing funny about that.

  • @EliteFireSaint
    @EliteFireSaint Před 2 lety +1

    Disappointed that no one mentioned SHADOW RAIDERS in the comments. Each world in Shadow Raiders is discovered to be equipped with "World Engines", massive drive systems which can propel the planets through space.

  • @blackmage-89
    @blackmage-89 Před 3 lety +2

    I wonder if a warp field (or mass effect field) that gradually allowed to change the Earth's orbit until leaving the solar system would necessitate the same crazy energy requirements?

    • @cerruti1881au
      @cerruti1881au Před rokem +1

      Warp field would be more effective if we could invent.

  • @neoblackheart746
    @neoblackheart746 Před 4 lety +83

    If we used the earth as fuel we would be reducing the mass of earth so over time it would take less and less to actually push us.

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 Před 4 lety +3

      Until our ONLY home burns up lol

    • @tristanbackup2536
      @tristanbackup2536 Před 4 lety +5

      & by the time you get to the new star system, you can add the mass back to the planet with asteroids & re-terrorform the planet.

    • @cabellones
      @cabellones Před 4 lety

      why the sun? we could use the moon... not that she will tag along anyway

    • @tristanmorris5646
      @tristanmorris5646 Před 4 lety +4

      I'm fairly sure the rocket equation takes that into account.

    • @wilkinlow
      @wilkinlow Před 4 lety +1

      Only works if its non renewable energy

  • @anthonyrangel7239
    @anthonyrangel7239 Před 4 lety +280

    WE SHOULD TAKE BIKINI BOTTOM AND PUSH IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

    • @seekertosecrets
      @seekertosecrets Před 4 lety +2

      6th person to mention it!

    • @Sketch_XR
      @Sketch_XR Před 4 lety +15

      "That idea... might just be crazy enough... TO GET US ALL KILLED!"
      Man who knew that quote was such a truth bomb.

    • @insertmemorableusernameher6795
      @insertmemorableusernameher6795 Před 4 lety +3

      Thats wandering earth in a nutshell

    • @anthonyrangel7239
      @anthonyrangel7239 Před 4 lety

      @@Sketch_XR ikr literal foreshadowing when worm drops on them a literal truth bomb XD

    • @DrPonk
      @DrPonk Před 4 lety

      seekertosecrets
      Even made almost this exact comment in Footnotes

  • @user-yl2hd7tg1b
    @user-yl2hd7tg1b Před 4 lety +4

    How are we supposed to build those rockets?
    China: Yes.
    Elon Musk: aight imma head out

  • @MuhammadKHuda
    @MuhammadKHuda Před rokem +1

    We may also need a crash test for this scenario. 🥶🥶

  • @93razzmatazz
    @93razzmatazz Před 4 lety +15

    didn't they say in the movie that they planned to use Jupiter as a slingshot to escape the suns gravity well?

  • @attila535
    @attila535 Před 4 lety +19

    "You can't crusade with a planet. Believe me, we tried."-High Marshal Helbrecht

    • @rippspeck
      @rippspeck Před 4 lety

      Do you know /tg/'s The Ship Moves? Big E decides to ditch the Milky May, instructs mankind to build an enormous ship and even invites some xenos along for the ride.
      You can find it on 1d4chan, it's a great read.

  • @derrenmarcusturner408
    @derrenmarcusturner408 Před 4 lety +2

    13:50 Proof Kyle is a Super Villain

  • @RewindOGTeeHee
    @RewindOGTeeHee Před 2 lety

    The movie version of this concept was really cool.

  • @justinsims7935
    @justinsims7935 Před 4 lety +192

    What if instead of all of us escaping we just sent one baby to another planet, this would of course result in the baby gaining super powers because its a different sun.

    • @ThisBoiDraws
      @ThisBoiDraws Před 4 lety +15

      🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @mariosuarez6656
      @mariosuarez6656 Před 4 lety +15

      we are not kryptonians hahaha

    • @nickm6751
      @nickm6751 Před 4 lety +9

      @@mariosuarez6656 what if we are? All other life could be alot weaker so if it was a cool sun u know if weather was always nice on a planet a human could be pretty strong if the other sentient life is like small or something

    • @swanclipper
      @swanclipper Před 4 lety +10

      joking or not. how sick would it be if it was true.
      there's no reason to think it is true, but anything is possible. a red sun should do it. or a dwarf star.
      you know what, i'm starting to think this might be plausible.

    • @bjrabang3111
      @bjrabang3111 Před 4 lety +6

      I was thinking of goku, then I saw different sun.