Les Paul vs SG Which Guitar Do You Like More?

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  • @MartyMusic
    @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety +577

    Thanks for supporting me with "MartyMusic!" which guitar is right for you?

    • @labbarak62
      @labbarak62 Před 7 lety +14

      Marty Music Les Paul !

    • @jamiemcminn6017
      @jamiemcminn6017 Před 7 lety +12

      Marty Music More than a Feeling solo by Boston?

    • @rayross997
      @rayross997 Před 7 lety +23

      Like choosing between a blond & a brunette, too hard Marty, double the fun, and double the rock & roll! Both rock big time.

    • @Mikewiings
      @Mikewiings Před 7 lety +7

      Marty Music Strats /:

    • @luketollett9850
      @luketollett9850 Před 7 lety +3

      nice shirt marty

  • @mwerock
    @mwerock Před 4 lety +1014

    Marty when doing tone comparisons it would be more effective and helpful if you played the same chords and riffs.

    • @malta9726
      @malta9726 Před 4 lety +43

      Off course lol
      Wonder why he doesnt do it

    • @joedavis8481
      @joedavis8481 Před 4 lety +9

      I was about to say that .... read a few comments first 🤣🎸🤟🍻

    • @leapsabove5660
      @leapsabove5660 Před 4 lety +6

      Yes marty they need to be compared with the same songs/ riffs melodies

    • @TheRPGentleman
      @TheRPGentleman Před 3 lety +11

      I thought he must be stupid in a special kind of way.

    • @someone1111
      @someone1111 Před 3 lety +2

      I can't compare completely different songs. I'm with M Rock here

  • @wilhelmtheconquerer6214
    @wilhelmtheconquerer6214 Před 5 lety +857

    Angus Young and Tony Iommi VS Slash and Jimmy Page
    EDIT:
    To all the butthurt fanboys that's says something along the following lines:
    "slash isn't on the same level as the others" (maybe not, but he's one of the most famous Les Paul players)
    "Jimmy Page used a Tele in the studio" (I know, but most picture him with a Les Paul or his EDS-1275)
    "Slash and Jimmy Page used double neck SGs" (no, that guitar model is named EDS-1275 (EDS=Electric Double Spanish) has nothing in common with an SG except for the shape. The tone is even more similar to a Les Paul due to the increased mass)
    Please remember that I just named two of the most famous/legendary users of each model just for fun. Don't get your panties in a twist

    • @mainstreetband622
      @mainstreetband622 Před 5 lety +105

      Tony and Angus would eat Jimmy Page and Slash for lunch.

    • @ohyes3147
      @ohyes3147 Před 5 lety +51

      @@mainstreetband622 angus by himself would

    • @jimmymash6863
      @jimmymash6863 Před 5 lety +258

      Page is a better guitar player and songwriter than Young, Iommi, and Slash put together

    • @chechenwojak5671
      @chechenwojak5671 Před 5 lety +43

      @@jimmymash6863 Exactly

    • @ianfrancisledesma4431
      @ianfrancisledesma4431 Před 5 lety +69

      Wait..I thought I saw Page play The Rain Song in a double-necked SG..so there goes that argument.

  • @coolguy2873
    @coolguy2873 Před 4 lety +117

    Tbh, the SG kinda has a more killer sound on distorted bridge pickup. And I love that kind of sound.

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun Před 5 lety +264

    Not a very good comparison, unfortunately- he didn't play the same material, which disrupts continuity. Switching pickups midway through only makes that worse.

    • @winstonchurchill624
      @winstonchurchill624 Před 4 lety +13

      siriusisastar I’m pretty sure these videos are just for him to show off.

    • @richardpictures
      @richardpictures Před 4 lety +5

      Yeah this is a brutal comparison. Not to mention his tone makes my ears scream

    • @route66kicks55
      @route66kicks55 Před 4 lety +11

      Winston Churchill- if you want to see him “show off” go watch his hardest guitar tutorials. Dude has every right to show off. Besides this is a very helpful comparison for people deciding between the two

    • @SwanseaTitanFan
      @SwanseaTitanFan Před 4 lety

      I agree, remember the original SG was a Les Paul. Biggest difference is the amount of wood used. I also agree he should have played the same tunes at the same settings.

    • @kimsechrist4139
      @kimsechrist4139 Před 4 lety

      @@route66kicks55 No it isn't. All he explained were the bodies and the prices, and then went 'Did you hear tonal differences?' Obviously, yes, but if that were all an SG could do, only people into heavy metal would ever use it, but of course that's not the case. Same for Les Paul. Both have multiple genres they can play, so why not play and explain them?

  • @RTOneZer0
    @RTOneZer0 Před 7 lety +1600

    SG. It's a versatile guitar, a bit underrated to me.

    • @luissanders7907
      @luissanders7907 Před 5 lety +9

      So true

    • @vicrattlehead8665
      @vicrattlehead8665 Před 5 lety +11

      N Wibawa real shit

    • @diggestbik3238
      @diggestbik3238 Před 5 lety +31

      It's more popular overtime than the les Paul

    • @budheavy5462
      @budheavy5462 Před 5 lety +22

      William Wingo yeah I read somewhere it was the most purchased guitar over the les Paul in 2016

    • @diggestbik3238
      @diggestbik3238 Před 5 lety +27

      @@budheavy5462 I like them better myself solely because of the neck and how easy it is to reach the last frets

  • @seanjacques5274
    @seanjacques5274 Před 7 lety +358

    these thumbnails are getting out of hand

  • @razifraship
    @razifraship Před 3 lety +44

    I can afford half a SG or quarter of a LP, so I go with pedals then with invisible Gibson...

  • @neilthomas9365
    @neilthomas9365 Před 4 lety +161

    May the shwarts be with you!

    • @neilthomas9365
      @neilthomas9365 Před 4 lety +2

      Learned to play guitar with you and papastash,ND still going strong,thank you for your time and help.

    • @gradyamick4126
      @gradyamick4126 Před 4 lety +1

      haha

  • @christian1409
    @christian1409 Před 6 lety +724

    1:43 it looks like the guy in his shirt is strumming the guitar

    • @gamespecies
      @gamespecies Před 6 lety +20

      Lmfao funniest shit ever

    • @Shortiess0627
      @Shortiess0627 Před 5 lety +23

      I thank you for showing this, could've never noticed, this is amazing, I can die in peace now😂😂

    • @concur9450
      @concur9450 Před 5 lety +2

      Lmao

    • @86F350
      @86F350 Před 5 lety +2

      Thats amazing

    • @blink-918
      @blink-918 Před 5 lety +3

      You mean Bob Dylan?

  • @RoachDoggJr2112
    @RoachDoggJr2112 Před 7 lety +1038

    >Has an SG
    >Doesn't play any Black Sabbath
    .....boi.....
    Still subbed tho

  • @nathanieltaylor8004
    @nathanieltaylor8004 Před 4 lety +57

    I’m a fat AC/DC fan so I’m biased but the SG is just iconic and it has a really thick and dense rock tone

  • @sebastiankenel3282
    @sebastiankenel3282 Před 2 lety +10

    I have both: a Gibson Les Paul Custom and an SG Maestro Vibrola 61. Until the end of 2020, I was playing non-stop with my Les Paul; however, when I bought an SG in October 2020, I immediately fell in love with that piece of Mahogany/Rosewood. It sounds so direct and into your face and on top of that, I prefer its clean sound way more than on the Les Paul. My opinion. :-)

  • @DoctorRimfire_PhD
    @DoctorRimfire_PhD Před 7 lety +562

    I prefer the SG more. I have longer arms and the neck is set farther forward and that makes it more comfortable for me to play. Plus, the SG costs about an arm and a leg less, weighs a shit ton less, and still sounds pretty much identical to a Les Paul.

    • @WayneMandible
      @WayneMandible Před 4 lety +39

      I can totally agree on all points except that it doesn't sound identical at all in my experience... unless you can point me to a particular SG that does? My Les Paul is a beast to lug around anymore, so I'd be willing to give another SG a try. I tried making the switch years ago and ended up eating the restocking fee to return the SG after comparing it to the sound of my Les Paul.

    • @JakobSeidl
      @JakobSeidl Před 4 lety +18

      WayneMandible all guitars with humbuckers sound the same. Grow up

    • @WayneMandible
      @WayneMandible Před 4 lety +84

      @@JakobSeidl I am grown up son. Your comment indicates you obviously have no clue. Every guitar is different and has unique sound quality, even same models can vary! If you can't hear the difference then go slap some humbuckers on an old Kay plywood guitar and enjoy your awesome sound :).

    • @TerracedMckenna
      @TerracedMckenna Před 4 lety +7

      Well, the cheapest les paul is cheaper than the cheapest sg im pretty sure

    • @WayneMandible
      @WayneMandible Před 4 lety +1

      @@TerracedMckenna I think you are right... but both are pricey.

  • @matthewlebish6787
    @matthewlebish6787 Před 7 lety +104

    I prefer the sg because I play a lot of heavy blues (ZZ Top, and cream) to hard rock with Black Sabbath and AC DC. You have a lot of options with the sg i love it, I have a black one, and it sounds kick ass with distortion.

    • @roseoneal3196
      @roseoneal3196 Před 5 lety +3

      It can sound kick ass with clean tone too! They are such magnificent guitars. I LOVE mine with the gain up and a bit of reverb. The great thing about SGs also is that they sound great with a variety of amps whereas the Les Paul only sounds good with select few and doesn't pair well with Fender amps.

    • @emily_the_studd
      @emily_the_studd Před 2 lety

      I’m coming from my first strat and loving my HSS because of the humbucker. I’m looking at a better quality fender strat but SG and one of those double cut PRS in the lower price range are the two others I’m choosing between for an intermediate guitarist who needs one guitar for blues, rock, funk, and your old fashioned harder but not metal rock. Which of these three would you consider?

  • @joey.h14
    @joey.h14 Před 3 lety +31

    The SG is so universally versatile. I’ve seen blues players play SG’s, and I’ve seen death metal players use the SG. Such a beautiful tone, and Guitar.

  • @PipeCat1965
    @PipeCat1965 Před 4 lety +38

    My conundrum is that the SG is so light and easy on the back (and looks so cool), but the richer tone of the LP almost makes up for its weight. I think the SG would benefit from a slightly more substantial body, but that would change its character. The LP is almost perfect except that it wears me out after a set. Tough choice. So I alternate 'em. The LP is better for clean stuff, though, so for jazzier stuff I pull up a chair.

    • @jkf9167
      @jkf9167 Před 2 lety +1

      A Les Paul Special (with humbuckers) splits the difference.

  • @Dagger_323
    @Dagger_323 Před 7 lety +151

    SG for comfortability and ergonomics, Les Paul for tone.

    • @rorysstuff5129
      @rorysstuff5129 Před 6 lety +1

      Dagger 323 Get a sg and put your fav pups there

    • @foxv.6454
      @foxv.6454 Před 5 lety

      Unless we talkin’ the Tony Iommi sig SG, in which case we got the best of both worlds

  • @A_Noid
    @A_Noid Před 2 lety +7

    The difference in tone has about 95% to do with the location of the pickups on the two guitars, not the amount of wood.

  • @gabrieledomingosjardim5358
    @gabrieledomingosjardim5358 Před 4 lety +30

    SG because it's very good looking and sounds badass, also it's Iommi's fault

  • @AstonM1965
    @AstonM1965 Před 7 lety +189

    Always liked and preferred the SG! Pretty versatile, comfortable and a good tone too xD

    • @NachoManRandySandwich
      @NachoManRandySandwich Před 7 lety +9

      CharlesScaleModelling I find the SG a lot more comfortable to play than my old Les Paul. I don't understand why people are always complaining about neck dive. I don't have that problem at all with mine. Maybe I just have a good strap, I dunno but its never been an issue for me

    • @wildbill2122
      @wildbill2122 Před 7 lety +2

      I own 4 'SG's and none of them have 'NECK-DIVE' and never did. The new 'SG' HP'ss with the G-FARCE tuners have NECK-DIVE-itis but not the Trads.

    • @maxhowse5421
      @maxhowse5421 Před 6 lety +2

      Both are great guitars its just i like the sg's tone.

    • @AnthonyCool
      @AnthonyCool Před 6 lety +3

      Just bought a 2018 Gibson SG Standard and is just perfection in guitar form. Not neck heavy. Works awesome.

    • @MrMetz2112
      @MrMetz2112 Před 6 lety +5

      Anthony Cool
      I just picked up a 2018 SG also. It’s my first guitar. Now all I have to do learn how to play it. I’m 54 and always wanted to learn.

  • @cam1924
    @cam1924 Před 7 lety +400

    Stratocaster vs Telecaster next!

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety +80

      are you psychic? he he

    • @Sam-w9des
      @Sam-w9des Před 7 lety +18

      THATS EASY STRAT FOR BLUES AND TELE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE : )

    • @kaziiqbal7257
      @kaziiqbal7257 Před 7 lety +1

      DOUG SHELTON JR. But which tele though?

    • @davidosler1999
      @davidosler1999 Před 7 lety +8

      I know what you're trying to say. But actually, I think Teles have the edge for blues, too. ;-)

    • @user-ck8xm5oj5h
      @user-ck8xm5oj5h Před 6 lety

      Marty Music 😂 he might be I'm late but good vid 😊

  • @abc-me9ic
    @abc-me9ic Před 4 lety +11

    [Clean]
    0:42 bridge
    [Overdrive]
    1:43 bridge
    [Clean]
    1:10 bridge
    1:20 middle
    [Overdrive]
    2:08 bridge

  • @Adam-mn1bh
    @Adam-mn1bh Před 3 lety +5

    I might be getting a black sg for my 17th birthday, very stoked and excited

  • @ronnieo.6647
    @ronnieo.6647 Před 7 lety +278

    That Les Paul is beautiful!

  • @dejct
    @dejct Před 7 lety +49

    I thought I liked everything more than an SG until I actually played one, so comfortable, so versatile, i love it. A lot better than Les Paul to me :)

    • @SaxJockey
      @SaxJockey Před 5 lety +2

      Likewise I never thought too much about the SG, until I tried one. I like the attack/bite, weight, balance, neck attachment and fret access. Although my Les Paul is better for some musical styles (where a warmer/richer/fuller tone is beneficial), overall I prefer the SG. At nearly 10lbs, my LP feels like a boat anchor compared to my SG at around 7lb.

    • @MikeAndersonvinyloldies
      @MikeAndersonvinyloldies Před 5 lety

      @@SaxJockey I'm at the doorstep now. Never had a desire to play an SG...now I def want one. I had this same relaization with strats/teles awhile back. Just own one of each....LP, SG, Tele, Strat, Jazz/Jag style

    • @duffman18
      @duffman18 Před 2 lety +1

      Yep. I always thought the SG was just an uglier, worse version of a les Paul. But I recently got a brand new Epiphone SG Muse for Christmas a few weeks ago. And it just blew me away. I went to the guitar shop not having anything in specific in mind. I had an idea of trying a few metal guitars like ibanez and Jackson because I always wanted to get a super fast playing metal guitar but then switch the metal pickups in them for something that's more vintage, like some Gibson PAFs or the Seymour Duncan seth lovers (which are also PAFs, they just don't have the rights to the name "PAF" so they name em after the guy who invented them). I still want to do that one day, get a metal guitar and make it sound vintage, even better if I can get one with a humbucker and 2 single coils so as to get the strat tone that's still my favourite tone
      But yeah I got there and tried everything. And surprisingly, the Epiphone SG Muse was by far the most playable guitar there. It just felt as smooth as butter. Everything comes easy on it. Maybe it's because I spent years and years not caring about gear anymore and just playing on my dad's old acoustic he got in the 60s with its big thicc ass neck. The Epiphone doesn't have a fat neck particularly, but it's certainly not anywhere near as thin as the ibanez and Jackson and schechter kind of guitars. It's like a modern thick neck. Which is probably the equivalent of what a "thin" neck was in the 50s and 60s. But either way, it just works. It works so well. I haven't ever owned a guitar as playable to me as this one.
      It has the best fret access of _ANY_ guitar I've ever played. I was really really shocked by that. I always thought they'd be very clunky guitars because they come from 1961. But no. They have more fret access than any strat or super strat I've ever played, certainly much much more than any les Paul. It's astonishing. You get up to like the 16th/17th fret and it still feels like you're at the 1st fret, there's no added bulk or anything, it's just as easy to play up there as down in the lower frets. It's gonna change the way I play guitar completely. Normally I rarely play above the 12th fret that much because it was just always a chore with the guitars I had already. But now I'll be able to play much much higher. It sounds so fantastic playing up there. No wonder Les Paul himself liked this feature of the SG, even though he disliked the SG overall (or really he just hated the first ones because they had very weak necks that could be bent backwards too easily and he preferred more solid guitars, and by 1963 Gibson had already solved the weak neck problem, but he always praised how good the fret access was, it was like nothing else that had ever existed before in the world of guitars, when it came out in 1961)
      And I chose it also because it's _WAAAAY_ more versatile than all the metal guitars there at this shop. Because it has coil splitting. I forgot that the Muse line had that feature until we got there. It means you get like, what, 8 or 9 different tones in one guitar? Lemme work it out. Cos you got the 2 humbuckers separate, and the 2 humbuckers together in the middle position. That's 3. Then you have both humbuckers coil split. So that's 3 more tones. And you have neck humbucker plus single coil bridge together, and vice versa bridge humbucker plus single coil neck together, so that's 2 more. So 8 in total so far.
      But it's also got another pullable knob on it, a third one, that's on the bridge tone knob I think, I can't remember which one, it doesn't really matter. But it makes it so the pickups go out of phase or something. I dunno. It just makes it sound super super twangy like a tele or strat. With the 2 humbuckers both coil split into single coils it already sounds like a tele. But then when you add this phase shift feature too, it gets even more like that. It only seems to do anything when the pickups aren't coil split, when they're coil split it makes no difference. But yeah so it has 3 extra tones, bridge middle and neck, because of this out-of-phase thing it does. So that's 11 tones in total so far.
      And it has a treble bleed circuit, or whatever it's called. So when you reduce the volume, the tone doesn't get muddy at all. It stays sharp. So that adds even more tones.
      And of course like on every SG and LP, you can make even more tones by doing things like go in the middle possition but have one pickup at full volume and the other at say 2 or 3, so you can get say a tone that's mainly the bridge pickup but with a little bit of neck to make it sound warmer and fatter. Or you could have the middle position with one pick up at max tone level and the other at min tone level for even more unique sounds
      But yeah even just playing it normally with no coil splitting or any other funny business, it's just a joy to play and it sounds gorgeous. I don't think I'll ever replace the pickups in it. They're already great.

  • @kingoffunelvispresley261
    @kingoffunelvispresley261 Před 6 lety +308

    SG ALL THE WAY BROTHER THICKER TONE I LIKE .BUT i also like peavey guitar's too all i ever bought.but some day I'm getting a SG before i die !!!!!!! P.s. I'm 51 not long to go !!!

    • @jazzhandsdan
      @jazzhandsdan Před 6 lety +8

      I saved up for an SG and bought it 2 months ago

    • @nickguitarhd8441
      @nickguitarhd8441 Před 6 lety +4

      Haha once I went on a website for a pawn shop that I visit often, they had a Epiphone SG I've saved up a lot of money to get it, so I walk in the shop the other day and find out it's been sold haha so instead I bought a Les Paul Junior

    • @AnthonyCool
      @AnthonyCool Před 6 lety +6

      Let's see here... Just bought my first electric 2 months ago. Guess what it was? A 2018 Gibson SG Standard in Autumn Shade. 😎👍 🎸🎶 Love. It.

    • @nickguitarhd8441
      @nickguitarhd8441 Před 6 lety +1

      oh my junior has a humbucker instead of a p90, I more of a humbucker person

    • @joeldavidssonparodies670
      @joeldavidssonparodies670 Před 6 lety +3

      51? Most people live to 85...

  • @luci_0975
    @luci_0975 Před 4 lety +95

    Basically Guns N’ Roses vs AC/DC

    • @cryptickrypton1885
      @cryptickrypton1885 Před 4 lety +7

      Blud 2soon And you have Nirvana logo as your channel pic

    • @luci_0975
      @luci_0975 Před 4 lety +2

      Shiny Hardc0re ik 👌

    • @lauriestrodestudios8670
      @lauriestrodestudios8670 Před 4 lety +3

      Blud 2soon obviously there lead guitarist isn’t a hard drinker and has more talent has more purpose so sg would win

    • @pistachiomustachio1465
      @pistachiomustachio1465 Před 4 lety +3

      Gideonnicochase Ps4friends lmao no, slash is more influential, has better compositions and has a more complex play style, dont get me wrong i love angus young but slash is the better guitarist

    • @bernardthehaster2016
      @bernardthehaster2016 Před 4 lety

      Both are good

  • @charlescampbell5894
    @charlescampbell5894 Před 7 lety +70

    1:20 that sounds amazing! You should do a lesson video on that.

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety +18

      OK! Thanks for the request! I dig, I dig,

    • @jadipeperzak4034
      @jadipeperzak4034 Před 7 lety

      Marty Music that does sound amazing... What kind of music is it???

    • @sb_seth
      @sb_seth Před 7 lety +2

      Jadi Peperzak bluuuuuuuuuuuues

    • @jadipeperzak4034
      @jadipeperzak4034 Před 7 lety +4

      x sb_seth x it sounds kinda jazzy too

    • @sinisarfti
      @sinisarfti Před 7 lety

      DereMemo it is in fact....

  • @fostervalle2483
    @fostervalle2483 Před 7 lety +436

    SG!!

  • @stratplayr6997
    @stratplayr6997 Před 6 lety +14

    Les Paul gets my vote. I've owned both, the LP is far superior, IMO

  • @carsonc3314
    @carsonc3314 Před 3 lety +7

    My Grandfather made me a custom SG w/ gold hardware & a two-tone natural wood finish. Something I'll always treasure. I've always loved the symmetry of its design.

  • @AndyInTheUK
    @AndyInTheUK Před 7 lety +18

    I only have a cheap strat, so I will need a humbucker some time. This was a really cool test. SG is the clear winner it for me. Lighter, cheaper, higher notes more easily reachable. Thanks Marty!

  • @avelinopereira9773
    @avelinopereira9773 Před 7 lety +52

    I used to like the les Paul better but know I think I like the SG better, thanks Marty!!

  • @invisiblerob5926
    @invisiblerob5926 Před 5 lety +8

    Marty's playing a Les Paul Standard, which is my favorite type of LP. I love the biting tone and aggressive look of the SG. It's a win win as far as choices go.

  • @evanmurphy6640
    @evanmurphy6640 Před 4 lety +16

    Never realized just how popular the sg is. Always thought the lp was way ahead

    • @nonnone7060
      @nonnone7060 Před 4 lety

      Lp is definitely more popular but SG is famous too

    • @nonnone7060
      @nonnone7060 Před 4 lety

      Lp is definitely more popular but SG is famous too

  • @kevinhunt5362
    @kevinhunt5362 Před 7 lety +92

    I love my Epiphone Les Paul. I know its not a Gibson, but love the sound I can get for rock. Its easy to play, fun to blast away for metal. I dont own a SG, but want to someday just because of the sweet crispness of solos and blues.
    Marty you are sick! Enjoyed listening and watching you play.

    • @bonannop
      @bonannop Před 7 lety +1

      Kevin Hunt put dimarzios in my epi l.p. and it kicks butt, fraction of the price and the tone is killer.

    • @kevinhunt5362
      @kevinhunt5362 Před 7 lety +5

      bonannop Thanks! Appreciate that. I love mine. Bought it used for 75.00 lol! just walked in this guitar store with new and used and found it. Nothing wrong with it when I bought it, just put new strings on it, ploished it up, and it is fun to play. Those commercials of abused animals, well there should be one for forgotten and lonely guitars! I love it!

    • @sabruhbruhzthatguitardude6629
      @sabruhbruhzthatguitardude6629 Před 7 lety

      The Universe i have a 1988 gibson studio with a ebony fretboard it kicks ass my god i have emgs in it it sounds so good

    • @nanuco106
      @nanuco106 Před 7 lety +10

      Same here with my Epiphone SG. I'm very happy with that guitar

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety

      Thanks again Kevin!

  • @akeeperofoddknowledge4956
    @akeeperofoddknowledge4956 Před 6 lety +59

    I've always preferred the more vibrant tones of the SG. Its all Tony Iommi's fault and Angus Young hasn't helped matters any.
    So yeah, SG.

  • @ednaheiman1736
    @ednaheiman1736 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Very good video thanks so much. I was always a Les Paul girl but when u get into ur 50’s that SG feels a little bit better on the back after standing awhile playing.

  • @JA-re8gi
    @JA-re8gi Před 4 lety +5

    SG, my name is Lucifer please take my hand.
    But, from personal experience (bought both yesterday off Craigslist) the Les Paul has very rich tone, but the neck is huge, it feels like I'm playing an acoustic with electric strings and it's such a heavy, beautiful block of wood. The SG is what the devil would chose. (He told me so).

  • @nythrye
    @nythrye Před 7 lety +21

    A few months ago, I went to the guitar store to buy a Les Paul studio and left with a PRS Custom 22. But, I really like that Les Paul.

  • @charliesdad2782
    @charliesdad2782 Před 7 lety +178

    Your videos always bring a smile to my face!

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety +34

      That's very kind of you charlie's dad!!! Thanks for supporting my new platform "MartyMusic"

    • @farazzza4344
      @farazzza4344 Před 6 lety

      He needs a smile on his face

    • @Name-md7my
      @Name-md7my Před 6 lety +1

      Are you coming on the podcast?

  • @liamvr8511
    @liamvr8511 Před 5 lety +24

    I like Les Paul but i like SG more (i’m an AC/DC fan)

    • @gigachad2276
      @gigachad2276 Před 4 lety

      I like acdc tooooo much!!!

    • @truthfinder4973
      @truthfinder4973 Před 3 lety

      sg all the way for me case the god fathers of metal black sabbath and angus young that use no fx all the years just all tube amp

  • @MrDussek
    @MrDussek Před 4 lety +14

    the SG is the most versatile guitar. it plays almost every genre like the guitar was made for it. the les paul is legendary but doesn’t have the same versatility an SG has

    • @tishian3088
      @tishian3088 Před 4 lety +1

      Is this a joke? With the same pickups, they sound identical

    • @Mikey-yb3go
      @Mikey-yb3go Před 4 lety +1

      Tishian are you joking? Same pickups doesn’t mean the same sound. Oh and they don’t have the exact same pickups. Wood matters, tuners matter, shape matters, and the hardware and gear are different and matter very much!

  • @Beulzabob
    @Beulzabob Před 7 lety +169

    Each guitar has it's own strengths over the other. If you're on a tight budget, an Epi SG is a great choice.

    • @iwannaleavenow1456
      @iwannaleavenow1456 Před 6 lety +5

      Robert Van Housen thinking about getting an epiphone sg have you had one?

    • @WH0R3mones1
      @WH0R3mones1 Před 6 lety +12

      SuitAndTy89 R if you're still thinking of it, go for it. You can't go wrong with any iteration of the G400. They end up being the cheapest "high end" Epiphone and Gibson, too, for that matter. All a matter of personal taste and most people's tastes tend to stray from SGs these days it would seem.

    • @grog5564
      @grog5564 Před 5 lety +8

      @@iwannaleavenow1456 I own a Les Paul Traditional, A Fender Strat, American Standard, and a Mod Shop Telecaster along with my SG-400 from Epiphone. The SG is one well built guitar. It is sturdy and solid. I can go out and hit batting practice with this mother and then go play music. The PUPs can get a bit muddy some times, but all in all, I play it in my rotation, the same amount as my other guitars. I love it. I'lllove it more when I get my Seymore Duncan Antiquity PUPs for it.

    • @nicaeladavies9475
      @nicaeladavies9475 Před 5 lety +1

      i got an epi sg cost me $700

    • @matthewtayloryowieresearch1912
      @matthewtayloryowieresearch1912 Před 4 lety +5

      I agree Robert, I have an Epiphone SG & it plays & sounds awesome.
      Les Paul's whether Customs Standards what have you, are harder to play for me personally, SG all the way.

  • @bluerock5351
    @bluerock5351 Před 7 lety +65

    As you may have already guessed it is a personal preference. For me, probably because of the era I grew up in I like the SG (love AC/DC) however It the Les Paul for me.

  • @Zoso981
    @Zoso981 Před 4 lety +23

    Les Paul, It's the original.

    • @supernerdklb8613
      @supernerdklb8613 Před 4 lety +1

      Finally, someone who agrees with me!

    • @joshuahuf9747
      @joshuahuf9747 Před 4 lety +1

      Damn right

    • @jaydanbowland4933
      @jaydanbowland4933 Před 4 lety +1

      Original doesn't mean better I would take my pc any day than the first pc created.

    • @Zoso981
      @Zoso981 Před 4 lety

      @FalconerPhoto Calm down, I only meant that the Les Paul was built before the SG was. Geeez....

    • @Zoso981
      @Zoso981 Před 4 lety

      @@jaydanbowland4933 Okay.

  • @pyecia
    @pyecia Před 2 lety +4

    Awesome comparison Marty! The truth is that ... you need to get both. Les Paul and SG is just a must have in your musical arsenal. The tough decision is just - which to get first but there are no wrong answers here

  • @loganparker8342
    @loganparker8342 Před 7 lety +352

    les paul vs sg the winner is ..........a stratocaster
    yeah Tough decision

    • @MartyMusic
      @MartyMusic  Před 7 lety +43

      drum hit!!!

    • @amyleigh02
      @amyleigh02 Před 7 lety +7

      i also have a strat but i far prefer the gigson sg for the blues, you cant beat them for sustain and sheer mass.

    • @TheTrollMastah
      @TheTrollMastah Před 7 lety +20

      Strat sounds are too thin.. I like that fat vintage Humbucker tone. But, in the hands of Hendrix or Stevie Ray the Strat is a good guitar too, but the Les Paul.. yas

    • @fezzes428
      @fezzes428 Před 6 lety +4

      TheTroll Mastah floyd picture and doesnt like strats? fuck's wrongs with you

    • @Klang4evre
      @Klang4evre Před 6 lety +1

      You could have all 3.

  • @marumba2002
    @marumba2002 Před 7 lety +20

    I love SG. I have got epiphone g400. I love it but your SG is my dream! SG for life

    • @shtzweak
      @shtzweak Před 5 lety

      Michał Śliwiński a cherry Red sg has been my dream guitar since I was a young boy, and last year that dream came true when I found a sg standard used for $750

  • @floopk8036
    @floopk8036 Před 4 lety +2

    idk why people say SGs look ugly. it think it looks awesome

  • @babyyoda3467
    @babyyoda3467 Před 4 lety +5

    Personally I like the Sg more, although I don’t own one they pretty much play the same as a les paul, personally I think they look cooler and feel better when holding them, also they have easy access to the higher frets.

  • @bobboitt3126
    @bobboitt3126 Před 7 lety +11

    Les Paul its my Favorite but having a light guitar that is easy to play high on the neck sounds great too and the SG is Classic.

  • @hardluckharris
    @hardluckharris Před 7 lety +10

    I like the sg. Im 5'7. Angus Young summed it up. He said the les paul felt too big and heavy. I agree. I do have a les paul junior. Les Pauls are great. for me it's about comfort.

    • @nanuco106
      @nanuco106 Před 7 lety +2

      Same here, I'm a small guy, so the light weight and the scale of the fretboard makes it a lot better for me.
      And I like SGs too because the tone.

    • @Dagger_323
      @Dagger_323 Před 7 lety +2

      hardluck 1995 different strokes for different folks I guess... Paul Kossoff was only 5'3" and only played Les Pauls. For me it's all about tone

    • @hardluckharris
      @hardluckharris Před 7 lety

      Dagger 323 I also play slide in standard tuning. SG is built for that

    • @Dagger_323
      @Dagger_323 Před 7 lety

      hardluck 1995 don't get me wrong. I love the SG. I've got an SG and a Les Paul both. You're right the SG is the perfect guitar for slide. I find myself playing my SG sometimes instead just because of its ergonomics. But I always end up going back to my Les Paul mainly because of its tone. It sustains longer and has a more rounded tone that works better for the blues-rock that I play. The SG may cut slightly more in a mix but just doesn't quite have the fullness of my Les Paul. Either way they're both incredible guitars, and I agree with what Marty said about the SG being a much better value for the money.

  • @symptomoftheuniverse1261
    @symptomoftheuniverse1261 Před 4 lety +5

    SG has the best middle position for me than any other guitar. But les paul has a better attack at the bridge one

  • @trackerrzz_3130
    @trackerrzz_3130 Před 4 lety +20

    I like the sg cause Angus uses it

    • @karinbernard3357
      @karinbernard3357 Před 4 lety

      Angus used to use a gretsch Version of a Les paul at first so technically he used both

    • @LtPuff
      @LtPuff Před 4 lety +3

      Karin Bernard Aren’t you confusing Angus with his brother Malcolm? Because I have seen in many live shows and video clips Angus using an SG and Malcolm using a Gretsch. Also, Angus is one of the most famous SG players to be alive.

    • @wangermcwangface4768
      @wangermcwangface4768 Před 4 lety +2

      Karin Bernard not true he has always played and sg, the Gibson sg was his first proper guitar and he has used one ever since

  • @eric_4723
    @eric_4723 Před 7 lety +75

    An sg just looks more badass

  • @EleenaLavode
    @EleenaLavode Před 7 lety +49

    this is like asking me to choose between two of my children

    • @sopwithcamelus
      @sopwithcamelus Před 3 lety +3

      It's pretty easy really. I only play Gibson, Fender, Gretsch, Rickenbacker, Martin, Guild and Taylor guitars. There are some others I left out...

  • @voiceofexperience
    @voiceofexperience Před 2 lety +3

    SG clean tones have always been superior to Les Paul, which just sounds boring without distortion. But SG rocks harder too.
    Also SG is far more ergonomic. Only some have a bit of neck-dive.
    Les Paul is basically overpriced "show-pony".

  • @useronefiveninesix
    @useronefiveninesix Před 6 lety +15

    I’m an sg man, I love the devil horn look and thinner body

  • @adamzeller1399
    @adamzeller1399 Před 7 lety +16

    gibson fucking SG !!!!!
    (give like for Tonny Iumi and Angus Young please!)

    • @isaacmurillo2371
      @isaacmurillo2371 Před 6 lety

      Gary Clark Jr rocks them too.

    • @doukdouk2550
      @doukdouk2550 Před 6 lety +3

      Adam Zeller love Tony iumi from bliuk sabbuth

    • @roseoneal3196
      @roseoneal3196 Před 6 lety +1

      I would give a thumbs up if it was for Tony Iommi and Angus Young but I've never heard of Tony Iumi.

  • @user-lj3tg4nk3e
    @user-lj3tg4nk3e Před 7 lety +12

    I have both and love both, but I favor my SG because it is more comfortable to play due to the lighter/thinner body. I also replaced the stock pickups with some Gibson Tony Iommi pickups which I really like the sound of.

  • @dmaikibujin
    @dmaikibujin Před 3 lety +2

    The comments seem to favor the SG though the LP is actually the more popular style.
    Makes me wonder if it's because SG fans are more likely to watch a video comparing the two...

  • @mayuquitomayu4743
    @mayuquitomayu4743 Před 2 lety

    Marty I thought the SG is Alder wood. And the LP is Mahogany.
    The maple top is cosmetic with probably very minor acoustic properties.
    The SG has a plastic cover that performs an acoustic duty when the pick ups are elevated towards the strings. That is, they actually ride on the plastic cover entirely. I just disassembled my SG and when I put it together I figured that out.
    For all these reasons the SG is more brash or rather carry a diminishing fundamental note, while the LP being all solid and the pickups mounted directly to the body tends to have less total vibration of the coil under each string.
    I can hear all this in your video.
    I love both your guitars and your playing.
    Someone else here suggested playing the same music on both for a better comparison.
    Thank you for all your videos. Awesome!

  • @crispypigs2902
    @crispypigs2902 Před 7 lety +9

    All hail the mighty sg. This song has created the most best songs. Stair way to heaven, iron man, and back in black.

  • @mortymcdickface3171
    @mortymcdickface3171 Před 7 lety +6

    Marty, I've been playing guitar since 12 years ago, when i was 8 years old... this channel was my favorite to watch tutorials on. Your tutorials and playing is always on point... but most importantly, you haven't changed a bit even though your channel has been growing so much over these past ten years!!! Probs to you💯🤙🏽

  • @NHfiddle
    @NHfiddle Před 4 lety +2

    Since I own an LP and an SG, I prefer both for different applications. Love them both.

  • @charlieleonardo
    @charlieleonardo Před 6 lety +4

    Great playing- to me the Les Paul had great tones & I love the position of the pick up toggle switch

  • @creeepperfan
    @creeepperfan Před 7 lety +12

    Judging by the things you play it seems like you are more into blues rock am i right?

  • @MrAlexhollins
    @MrAlexhollins Před 7 lety +73

    SG's are great until you put a strap on. They are neck heavy.

    • @memorize22
      @memorize22 Před 7 lety +7

      My AfterNoon Meme nah he's right, SGs are much more neck heavy than a Les Paul due to the thinner/lighter body

    • @MrAlexhollins
      @MrAlexhollins Před 7 lety +3

      LP's I've played have balanced fine. SG's are big neck divers. Great for playing sat down.

    • @Jebus000001
      @Jebus000001 Před 7 lety +6

      Alex Hollins they can be neck heavy, I have a standard that isn't though. If you get a wide leather strap that sometimes helps with the ones that are neck heavy

    • @NachoManRandySandwich
      @NachoManRandySandwich Před 7 lety +1

      Alex Hollins I just bought an Epiphone sg g-400 pro and I don't find it neck heavy at all. Maybe it's just that I have a good strap (Minotaur FS851S Guitarstrap for anyone that's interested), even when I try to nudge it a bit to see if the neck will drop it doesn't.

    • @Kur0y4m4
      @Kur0y4m4 Před 7 lety

      Do not care for perimeter bursts, or people that cannot see the difference (which is why Gibson cuts that corner).

  • @jonathanpappas151
    @jonathanpappas151 Před 4 lety +8

    Black SG is awesome!

  • @daro9582
    @daro9582 Před 3 lety +15

    The LP is like the kid that always has its hand raised and knows the answer but the SG just stays in the back of the classroom and never says anything but always knows the answer for the questions in the next exam one month earlier

    • @henthust9784
      @henthust9784 Před 3 lety

      Are you an author of a book or a philosopher? I kinda like your choice of vocab and phrasing...if you were writing a phrase for marks I'd give you ten out of ten 🤣🤣

  • @444team45
    @444team45 Před 7 lety +14

    Marty both are great guitars but i prefer the sg personally. keep up with the videos. ive been watching your stuff for about 5 years. great stuff has taught me alot.

  • @thenumberofthebeast2
    @thenumberofthebeast2 Před 7 lety +16

    Love SGs. I've had my white Epi SG custom shop g400 for ten years now and I love it, put a Duncan '59 in the bridge and it melts steel. You give Iommi a cheaper electric guitar from Sears and he'll make it sing. It's all in the fingers, and technique. That's how you make any guitar worth its salt. Tell me I'm mediocre for owning an Epi, and I'll embarrass you and your $2500 axe.

    • @cherokee4988
      @cherokee4988 Před 7 lety +3

      thenumberofthebeast2 well said. By the end of the day, guitars are just tools and it's up to the hands of the guitarist to make it sing.

    • @kameel68
      @kameel68 Před 6 lety +2

      I've got 2 Gibson Les Paul's, but I'm thinking of getting the Tony Iommi Epiphone SG too.

    • @Spartanm333
      @Spartanm333 Před 6 lety +1

      And you know Oasis's Noel Gallagher recorded their first album Definitely Maybe on an Epi right? Sheraton. Good enough for a multi-million selling album.... Yes I know he borrowed a Gibson LP from Johnny Marr during the period - mainly for publicity work so that he would look more established than he actually was - once again the hype gets in the way.

    • @thenumberofthebeast2
      @thenumberofthebeast2 Před 6 lety +1

      Harald Geersen Can't go wrong with the raw power from an SG brother! The Iommi would be a great choice too.

    • @thenumberofthebeast2
      @thenumberofthebeast2 Před 6 lety

      Spartanm333 It's all about the name on the headstock, for pretentious people that is. But also the ones who haven't picked up both brands and decided for themselves and recognized the hype. It's all about the dough it seems man, this costs more so it's obviously thousands of times better.

  • @susinsus2625
    @susinsus2625 Před 3 lety +1

    Les Paul or Sg ?
    I mean it is a really hard decision, but if I would be forced to choose one of them, I would probably choose telecaster.

  • @davidcudlip6587
    @davidcudlip6587 Před 3 lety +2

    Always liked the SG better. The necks are more playable and there's something about the way the neck pickup distance to the neck joint really gives this guitar a different sound. A lot lighter, too.

  • @lennerteverling
    @lennerteverling Před 7 lety +19

    By the way what's your opinion on PRS guitars? They seem to be a lot cheaper than Gibson of Fender guitars, but a lot of my favorite artists use them...

    • @natepopodi4770
      @natepopodi4770 Před 7 lety +4

      I guess cheaper all depends on which PRS line you're looking at. Their Core line (handmade in Maryland) are about the same price, if not more than a Standard Gibson at $1600-$2000. The PRS Standard series (formerly S2 I think) is right up around American Fender pricing at $1000-$1300 or so, while the cheapest SE (import) line is a bit more than a Mexican Fender, around $500-700. I've never owned any form of PRS guitar, but I've been told that they're fantastic. The scale length sits in-between a Fender and Gibson, so it's a bit of an adjustment if you're used to playing one or the other. SE's are probably the best import line you can buy for the money.

    • @lennerteverling
      @lennerteverling Před 7 lety

      Nate Popodi I really don't know much about guitars, I've been playing for just about a year now on my brothers guitar, which costed around €900 and is from an unknown brand (which is good, because that way you're paying for the quality, not the brand, like you would with a very cheap strat by Fender... I think lol). Right now I'm looking at for a guitar of my own and my eye just fell on PRS, but again I've got no clue which ones are any good... I looked at the Tremonti SE custom model, but I have no idea if it's a good one or just cheap imported crap haha

    • @natepopodi4770
      @natepopodi4770 Před 7 lety +4

      Lennert Everling Thankfully, import doesn't usually mean crap anymore. Most Korean/Indonesian/ Chinese guitars are fantastic, especially for how much they cost. An SE Tremonti would be a fantastic choice.

    • @lennerteverling
      @lennerteverling Před 7 lety +1

      Nate Popodi Well, in the end I'm gonna have to try some out to see which one fits me best, thanks for the advice dude!

    • @Panda-hj2fw
      @Panda-hj2fw Před 7 lety +1

      I have a PRS SE Custom 24 (so made in Korea). It's an amazing guitar. However, I have a soft spot for Les Pauls and I prefer my Gibson Les Paul 60s Tribute to it for a few different reasons.
      Anyway, you won't go wrong with a PRS SE.

  • @coldwar1977
    @coldwar1977 Před 4 lety +7

    gotta have both!

  • @gezi0752
    @gezi0752 Před 2 lety +2

    with the right amp and effects you can make a guitar sound like anything in my opinion, so i’m saying SG just for the looks

  • @JacksonGuitarsPlayer03
    @JacksonGuitarsPlayer03 Před 4 lety +1

    SG is the ultimate classic rock guitar. It’s the Black Sabbath master and the ACDC King... lol that’s what the guitarists for those bands used! Tesla guitarist (don’t remember name) also played a SG. Such a good classic rocker and pretty good for metal too!

  • @guitarman65854
    @guitarman65854 Před 7 lety +7

    Les Paul for me is great
    But for slide it's the sg all day long
    Just ask Derek trucks

  • @micahtcook__8817
    @micahtcook__8817 Před 5 lety +8

    Honestly I'd take both just beautiful guitars!

  • @LoneWolf-ni1zj
    @LoneWolf-ni1zj Před 4 lety +1

    You know, I was never a fan of the Fender Tele or the Gibson SG... just thought they were boring compared to the Strat and Les Paul. Recently, I added a Sunburst Tele and a Cherry Red SG Standard to my collection and I must admit... I was judging a book by it's cover as I thoroughly enjoy both of them. They each have their own distinctive tones that inspire you. I found this video late however, I now agree... you can't have one without the other!

  • @doublequarterpounderwithal1868

    1:21 his face=me when my maths teacher sees I didn’t do the homework

  • @rajdeepganguli2274
    @rajdeepganguli2274 Před 7 lety +5

    Les Paul all the way... for me
    What's your choice Marty?

  • @locke1668
    @locke1668 Před 7 lety +3

    I'm a AC/DC fan so I gotta go with the SG. Nice video Marty I love these Guitar comparisons.

  • @aaronbolinger2468
    @aaronbolinger2468 Před 5 lety

    Was a Paul player 40+ years. Got my first SG 3 years ago, and never looked back. Improved my playing by a good 20%. The neck was so fast I was overshooting target frets till I adapted. Now the speed comes in really handy with certain styles our band is covering. The 59 Slim Taper neck also fits my hand better, so that weighs into the improved feel. Jump up to either a Supreme (mine is an '01 SG Supreme with P-90s) or an HP model, and you get all 24 frets (which comes in handy copying the shredders), the tonal palate of the P-90s, and a maple cap (pretty well matching the Paul all around) as well. No contest. A lot more guitar, for less green stamps -- SG Supreme. Yup.

  • @BITESIZEJONES
    @BITESIZEJONES Před rokem +1

    There's nothing like a light SG that stays in tune

  • @MetalHeadHippie
    @MetalHeadHippie Před 7 lety +3

    I'm a pay as you play picker so a lot of higher end gear is out of my price point. I would love a 1500-3k Gibson. But for my style of play I would want the SG, and now that they have come down in price a little I plan on getting one. SG's at 700-1200-1500 are within my range. But I would spend 1500 for the right LP. Thanks Marty.

  • @brisonmoorhead6028
    @brisonmoorhead6028 Před 7 lety +6

    Love the new project Marty keep it up!

  • @twotone85
    @twotone85 Před 3 lety +2

    Les Paul has always been my favotite guitar beside the tele.

  • @ayoutubechannel1499
    @ayoutubechannel1499 Před 3 lety +2

    he literally played iconic riffs on the guitars that suits it

  • @stevo53
    @stevo53 Před 7 lety +6

    If only this guy had spent his money on guitars instead of women, he'd have a harem of top end guitars to pick up anytime he likes, and still be a wealthy man.
    Les Paul, SG, 335, Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster, Hummingbird, D41, and a handmade to order classical.
    My only problem would be which colours.
    Maybe next lifetime!
    But for your question today...🤔 BOTH 😀

    • @jdavis417
      @jdavis417 Před 7 lety +2

      You said, "My only problem would be which colours." Are you talking about the guitars now? ;)
      The wise man said, "I spent half my life getting drunk and chasing 'women'... and I WASTED the other half"!

    • @stevo53
      @stevo53 Před 7 lety +2

      John Davis
      My weakness is for telecaster blondes, however stratocaster reds are hot and alluring, Black Beauties are stunning, but to be honest I've never had the pleasure of playing one. As far as guitars go, well that's something else.

    • @jdavis417
      @jdavis417 Před 7 lety

      I never have had any money, so I've been largely limited to pre-owned. Some had a tone I liked better but none of it was bad. In fact, even the worst was FANTASTIC!!! ;)

  • @Owen_plays_music1049
    @Owen_plays_music1049 Před 4 lety +33

    Ths SG sounds and looks badass.

  • @DJ-bz4vi
    @DJ-bz4vi Před 3 lety +1

    When comparing guitars the only true and comparable way to do it is to play the exact music from songs on each. I did notice maybe the SG was easier for you to play.

  • @itsallaroundyou7085
    @itsallaroundyou7085 Před 3 lety +1

    Dude you are hands down the best guitar teacher and channel on the internet period. You cover everything.
    Here I am thinking jeez which really nice guitar do I wanna buy and bam! Turns out you review guitars too lol.
    I'm a huge Krieger fan right down to finger picking an electric guitar so I'm probably gonna go sg.
    But I love the look of a hollow body electric.🤔

  • @socialdef3
    @socialdef3 Před 5 lety +5

    I love how he puts on a better tone for the Les Paul on the amp, plays more enthusiastically and everything. Not a fair chance given to the SG.

  • @JonathanSchlackman
    @JonathanSchlackman Před 4 lety +11

    They both look cool and sound identical. But the SG feels more comfortable when you're sitting down.

    • @elmiguel6725
      @elmiguel6725 Před 4 lety +1

      I love the richness of the Les Paul, either way you can't go wrong.

  • @jamespanter6768
    @jamespanter6768 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Just got an epiphone sg pro for $160 at a pawn shop. It was that price because of an eyesore of damage to the front face. Slapped a sticker over it and we are good. Plays well. My first sg. Can now do Sabbath and ac/dc😃

  • @jeffainsley6000
    @jeffainsley6000 Před 3 lety

    No question. SG. More focused mids, brighter. They sit much better in a mix than a Les Paul. Les Pauls have one sound: the bridge pickup. SG neck pickup can usually still cut in a mix. Plus they are lighter, acoustically louder, easier to play. Just a block of tone.