Why I am afraid for the NBA and Basketball

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  • @prlysis
    @prlysis Před 6 měsíci +300

    I'm 27 years old, and I agree with you. Sometimes, it feels like a 3-point shootout. The offense is favored so heavily that the game isn't balanced anymore. Certain fundamentals aren't being taught.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I think the Lakers since 2020 tried to go for the old school way of shooting since they suck at 3s

    • @student99bg
      @student99bg Před 6 měsíci +26

      I am a European guy and when I watch Euroleague each possession the defense is fighting tooth and nail to stop the offense from scoring and offense is trying tooth and nail to score, playing as a team, trying to find the best possible opportunity to score even if it takes 24 seconds. In the NBA I have an impression that they half ass it on both ends of the floor (to be fair NBA rules are also more scewed against defense and in favor of offense), at least in the regular season.

    • @chitownkidd33
      @chitownkidd33 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@student99bgThat’s exactly what it is

    • @ibringthelastwords1358
      @ibringthelastwords1358 Před 6 měsíci

      @@therealjaystone2344 Hahah 😂😂🤣🤣

    • @2genders-tk2ue
      @2genders-tk2ue Před 6 měsíci

      I hope zion can stay healthy because he can help.

  • @tm75_88
    @tm75_88 Před 6 měsíci +165

    As soon as you watch back a game from 90s, you just realize the different vibe .....a regular season game back then was more electrifying than a today's playoff game

    • @tm75_88
      @tm75_88 Před 6 měsíci +14

      @@brianrosen7426 you're right
      it used to have more vibe than a today's Final

    • @ryandavis7762
      @ryandavis7762 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Intensity

    • @gambitacio
      @gambitacio Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-xy2mj2gp1tPeople like you always think you’re moving forward only to hit into a brick wall.

    • @MDHDH-iy7nm
      @MDHDH-iy7nm Před 6 měsíci +12

      90s meatriders are so annoying lmao

    • @joegibbskins
      @joegibbskins Před 6 měsíci +11

      Part of that is being a kid. You’re never going to feel as happy as you did when you were 10

  • @bauc
    @bauc Před 6 měsíci +44

    As a 37 year old, who grew up with basketball +(ex player), especially 90's NBA and early 2000's I agree with every word you said. The NBA game is unrecognizable today, however in Europe, we still play old-school with a modern touch to it, so I think this is the right way forward.

    • @monolithgeometry3221
      @monolithgeometry3221 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Perhaps that why Europeans are dominating the game today

    • @bauc
      @bauc Před 6 měsíci

      @@monolithgeometry3221 I guess so 👊

    • @soyentak5076
      @soyentak5076 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yea fiba worlds was best ball I’ve seen in 15 years

    • @dinoperta3576
      @dinoperta3576 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But the problem with European basketball is that the Euroleague is not an open comeptition.You can be relegated in your own league and still play in the Euroleague while a team could be a championship team in its league and not be invited.That is not a sport but a closed elitist competition.At least in other sports you can qualify on paper even if you are an amateur side and a champion of your country.

    • @sampayne3576
      @sampayne3576 Před 4 měsíci

      NBA basketball is not recognizable because of the soft European influence. Soft European basketball is and never was old school basketball, boy. We invented this shit, not you

  • @user-oq9ly8lr9z
    @user-oq9ly8lr9z Před 6 měsíci +14

    The change in the NBA is why I got into college basketball. It’s still traditional for the most part. Still have a big man that plays down low, mid range shots, passing, defense and most importantly…they give 100%

    • @MrEKOPriest
      @MrEKOPriest Před 6 měsíci +6

      I agree. College and Euro league are way better than most of the NBA right now.

    • @babobenson5203
      @babobenson5203 Před 6 měsíci +1

      College basketball is legit garbage. Like actually go watch the end of a march madness game... Shit is sloppy, and undisciplined basketball. The wizards would wax any team in Europe

    • @GregoryKeller
      @GregoryKeller Před 5 měsíci

      @@babobenson5203 the games are sloppy because they are amateurs and maybe the wizards could beat some of the lesser teams in Europe, but Real Madrid with a 16-year-old Luka came to Oklahoma City in the preseason and beat the thunder a team that had Westbrook who won the MVP later that season

  • @MarcelOutdoors
    @MarcelOutdoors Před 6 měsíci +266

    100% agree. Being a fan of the sport since the 80s and playing it from 7 to 21 years old, I also stopped watching the game for over 15 years because I couldn't stand how players keep asking for a lot of money without even playing a single game first. They started asking for attention and respect without letting their actions speak for themselves. How the game started allowing plays that were so illegal and enforced back then, that made the NBA a whole different level. This took away so much from the elite level that the NBA was known for. Just because you were good at a pick-up game didn't mean you could be an NBA player. It used to take lots of discipline and understanding of the fundamentals and RULES of the game to earn a team position. There was pride in each position back then. 1,2,3,4,5. Oh, you knew who was what how good they were. Only then the comparisons made sense. They basically allow the game to become a pickup game where standard game rules are not enforced. That alone makes you lose respect for the game. Competition, rivalry, team loyalty, defense, big man, midrange, fundamentals, and player maturity are extremely important for sports. We tend to go for trends and what works at the moment and the NBA has gone that route. How are you going to build a dynasty if you are constantly moving players around and not building a team with a strong system that works? I don't even have favorite team now days just favorite players. SMH...

  • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
    @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci +63

    Progressivism is not necessarily synonym of progress, you can apply this to Basketball.

    • @Immigrationsituation
      @Immigrationsituation Před 6 měsíci +9

      I also apply that to politics. 😂

    • @studiobauhaus7740
      @studiobauhaus7740 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Progressivism should be the art of making things better but it's not. Progressivism in today's world is progress for the benefit of the individual so NBA players and teams can make more money and call that progress but it's at the expense of the game. They sold their soul.

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci +3

      todays reference to "progeressive" I look and see REGRESSION

    • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
      @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Lizards_Lounge Period. That's just false advertising 🤣

  • @raphael2407
    @raphael2407 Před 6 měsíci +81

    I'm an oldhead. I watched the 90's Bulls and that was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in sports. There is a reason why we still talk about the 90s ball and why these players are still icons to this day and age. Remember Scottie Pippen dunk hard on Patrick Ewing and tell Spike Lee to "take a seat"? Or when Rodman guarded Shaq in the post, or when Piippen completely erased Magic the entire game? John Stockton diming up the Mailmain, Jason Williams with his unique style? Mutombo "not in my house" monsterblocks, Kobe killing it midrange...
    man so many great moments.
    Yeah, there's reasons we still remember and we still talk about these moments. Good times we had and it was spectecular to watch.
    Modern basketball with this slowmotion "dance around, please don't touch me, halfcourt threes... " is all just boring. Great moments? None.. :(

    • @wmden1
      @wmden1 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You summed it up well. The most excitement I have gotten from watching clips from today's game is counting the number of travels, carries, and etc. per possession. that are not called as violations. Most of those violations are obvious to anybody with a little knowledge of the rules. I guess I shouldn't call it excitement. It's more like amazement at the number not called and some sadness for what the implications are, along with the overuse of the 3 point shot, for the future of the game so many of us love to play and watch.

    • @jpmor7327
      @jpmor7327 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Or watching old bill cartwright shoot freethrows 🤣🤣🤣

    • @nickandres7829
      @nickandres7829 Před 6 měsíci

      I mostly remember the whistle being blown every fifteen seconds for a travel

    • @rhenarda.9292
      @rhenarda.9292 Před 6 měsíci

      Ok boomer 😅😅

    • @keepmoving2023-ku7nb
      @keepmoving2023-ku7nb Před 5 měsíci

      Watching the NBA since the 80s the game is not like it used to be especially the lack of defense

  • @robharrison8139
    @robharrison8139 Před 6 měsíci +30

    Thanks for articulating what I, and may others, are feeling. I was an NBA obsessed teen in the 90s and couldn’t get enough, reading every article, magazine, collecting tapes, and the like. My interest waned a bit in the early 2000s but I still appreciated the game. But nowadays I find the game to be unwatchable (too many threes and no defense) and the league an atrocious shadow of its former self (load management, soap opera like drama, no loyalty). For this feeling I am mocked and decried as a closed minded “old head” who hates change, but like you said evolution is not necessarily better and the product has been downgraded.

    • @MatewanMassacre
      @MatewanMassacre Před 6 měsíci +2

      What I miss is watching teams have to rely on their big men, making "grown man moves ... in the paint" as Mark Jackson used to say.
      Now, it's a bunch of little guys, running up and down the floor, jacking up 3-pointers.

    • @dbreiden83080
      @dbreiden83080 Před 6 měsíci

      The skill level in today’s game is higher than ever before and that cannot be argued by anybody with any common sense. Pretty much everybody on the court can make a three-point basket regardless of height. Watch tape from the 70s 80s and even the 90s you got players all over the place that literally can’t fucking shoot the basketball.

    • @nickandres7829
      @nickandres7829 Před 6 měsíci

      It's just the evolution of the sport. Hockey got rid of The Trap. Baseball had the Dead Ball Era. Football games in the 90's were lower scoring, slower paced games.

  • @big8dog887
    @big8dog887 Před 6 měsíci +82

    That game a few years ago between Golden State and Houston where Houston missed twenty some three pointers in row and just kept hoisting them up is what pretty much killed my interest in the modern NBA.

    • @jaysouthmusic8230
      @jaysouthmusic8230 Před 6 měsíci +9

      I remember that game it was a headache just watching that many bricks in a game

    • @user-vw1vf5cw7d
      @user-vw1vf5cw7d Před 6 měsíci +14

      James Harden left the chat😂

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci +1

      I've HEARD about this game, didnt see it, sounds DISGUSTING !!!

    • @loulou7194
      @loulou7194 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah, the famous 2nd half of the 2018 WCF (a Game 7, WTF), it was terrible...

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Před 6 měsíci +4

      When you missed too many threes, you better stop messing with it

  • @tommychew6544
    @tommychew6544 Před 6 měsíci +70

    I agree with you100%! Basketball was exciting back in the 80's and 90's, people took pride in their defensive skills. It's been around 15 years or so since have been able to make myself watch an entire game. In the 80's & 90's I was glued to watching those games! I can't even turn on the games anymore, it's a different sport now and the entertainment value is LESS than half of what it was.

    • @jordanjenkins1671
      @jordanjenkins1671 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Which is ironic, because the league thought the game would be more entertaining with more offense

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +2

      I felt the same way, but Anthony Edwards has me believing in better days. He is a throwback type of player and the wolves are actually fun to watch

    • @miharudl9849
      @miharudl9849 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I totally agree. Nowadays a lot of players don’t want to play defense. Just look at last game between Hawks and Pacers that ended with 152-157. Nobody was playing defense, just shooting threes.

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci +1

      same, I stopped several years ago, it just makes me cringe over and over..

    • @vlada
      @vlada Před 6 měsíci

      ​so I gather you never heard of the 80s teams like Denver that used to play highscoring games?

  • @robertl8270
    @robertl8270 Před 6 měsíci +22

    I'm 31, and I know exactly what you mean. I'm in Cleveland, and I couldn't get my nephews to go with me to the Cavs/Lakers game tomorrow night. I tried to explain to them about Jordan & LeBron, and what a historic experience it will be to see LeBron before he retires... they just couldn't care less. They're not sports fans, but it still makes me feel like Basketball doesn't have the same magnetism it did when I fell in love with it. It used to be the coolest of the cool, and larger than life. Now... Idk.

    • @user-ye3ci5yb7v
      @user-ye3ci5yb7v Před 6 měsíci +1

      because no more jordan magic bird////////////////dominique drexler/////celtics lakers pistons dr j ..kareem..kobi//////shaq......olajuwon.....todays players have no charisma they boring robots///////////

    • @chad9455
      @chad9455 Před 6 měsíci +1

      There’s also just way more distractions now man….

    • @christopherm6725
      @christopherm6725 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @robertl8270 sounds like they just aren’t sports fans. 🤷‍♂️ there are a ton of distractions now too.

    • @Trancymind
      @Trancymind Před 6 měsíci

      No pun intended but Lebron is one of the reasons why the NBA has gone downhill with his political views of feeling oppressed and much more.

    • @nerychristian
      @nerychristian Před 6 měsíci

      Kids need to constantly be on their phones

  • @Collinjchang
    @Collinjchang Před 6 měsíci +8

    I agree completely. Thank God we've still got players like Nikola Jokic and Luka Doncic who use strategy and ball movement and are both still very much attuned to the lost art of passing. It's not a coincidence that they're also both foreign players. I miss the halcyon days of Bird, Magic and Jordan.

  • @leestamm3187
    @leestamm3187 Před 6 měsíci +128

    I'm an old geezer in my 70's who has been watching basketball since the days of Russell and Chamberlain. Your observations about the game are solid for the era of your experience. In earlier days, ball movement, good defense, finding the open man and post play made the game much more fun to watch. Today there is way too much standing around while the superstar does his thing. The 3-point shot, which began in the old ABA, didn't change things a whole lot until fairly recently, when it began to be a substantial part of the offense. Also, the economics of the NBA means too many players want to make the highlight show, which kills teamwork. The big money also means that the game is more about the players' wallets than the enjoyment of the fans. The best of the NBA is in the finals, where you can still see a few flashes of the game as it really should be played.

    • @MysterianFilmGroup
      @MysterianFilmGroup Před 6 měsíci +4

      Who in your opinion is the greatest? Wilt? He's rarely given modern-day credit...

    • @leestamm3187
      @leestamm3187 Před 6 měsíci +16

      @@MysterianFilmGroup Really tough to pick just one. Every era has had great players. I saw Chamberlain play in person quite a few times and he was as dominant as any single player I ever saw, but there are just too many greats to single out any one player.

    • @billmorrison9068
      @billmorrison9068 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@MysterianFilmGroup The worst free throw shooter ever, a detriment to his team. No real shooting touch. Anything but clutch most seasons. Greatest rebounder ever, however, and the best defensive center I ever saw before Hakeem--until he had a few fouls on him. To get a better perspective on Wilt, check out his playoff stats per 36 minutes. Not so impressive.

    • @simonrass2961
      @simonrass2961 Před 6 měsíci

      Maybe you can try some euroleague BBall the get the setplay an team orientated game

    • @leestamm3187
      @leestamm3187 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@billmorrison9068 Statistics are interesting, but they don't measure how a player can affect the play of others on the court and/or control the flow of a game. There are important aspects of any sport that cannot be measured by even the most sophisticated statistical analysis. This fact can get lost in the modern obsession with numbers. Lots of great players did not rack up fabulous stats, but those who competed with or against them and knowledgeable fans who saw them play recognized their talents.

  • @jordanjenkins1671
    @jordanjenkins1671 Před 6 měsíci +41

    My dad did a good job coaching his youth league team with old school fundamentals. Didn't just let the kids play iso or settle for 3s every possession. They didn't have the most talent, yet were pretty dominant for a few years. My dad was very proud of that.

    • @jordanjenkins1671
      @jordanjenkins1671 Před 6 měsíci

      @@darrel7589 Hmm interesting. Doesn't the superstar still have to trust in a team system in moments? Remember Phil Jackson asked Michael "Do to want to score 60 points or do you want to win?"
      There's a fine balance to find between building a system around the superstar that complements their game, brings out the best in their teammates, vs just letting the superstar go iso the whole time.

  • @devenchristian
    @devenchristian Před 6 měsíci +15

    One cannot deny that shooting has become steadily more efficient over the years. I believe that part of the reason why we are seeing this is that they don't or very rarely call traveling, moving screens, or offensive fouls on the offense side anymore. Couple that with further hamstringing defenders, such as the removal of hand checking, and we have a shoot the three or bull rush your way to the basket type of league. A tweak to the balance would make watching that much more interesting, at least for me.

    • @nicolasmartinez795
      @nicolasmartinez795 Před 6 měsíci +4

      They also never call carrying, pretty much every move a guy makes in today's NBA is a carry. It started with AI and his crossover. He carried the hell out of the ball, NBA didn't care because that was his move and if they wanted him to be a marquee player he had to do his move. Pandora's box opened and now we are seeing the effects of coddling the offensive players

    • @Cashinn_Outt1754
      @Cashinn_Outt1754 Před 6 měsíci +1

      They can fix it by making posterizers worth 4 points lol

  • @tmac5135
    @tmac5135 Před 6 měsíci +28

    To be fair to the Curry impact argument, Michael Jordan (and Kobe later on) had the exact same effect for kids. A lot of young hoopers took incredibly bad mid range shots and thought shooting like crazy was the way to win. It made basketball gross to watch for years. We saw this in the NBA as well, don't forget the years when Iverson took almost 30 shots a game when his teammates struggled to make it to 10. Only difference to today is that we didn't see kids from around the world play horrendous basketball daily because we didn't have social media at the time.

    • @MrSdasf
      @MrSdasf Před 6 měsíci

      Thank you

    • @MrMagnaniman
      @MrMagnaniman Před 6 měsíci +4

      Yeah, this is really an "Old Man Shouts at Clouds!" video. "Back in my day, we would shoot perimeter shots with our heels on the 3-point line so that they only counted for 2 points when we made them 30% of the time."

    • @GabiN64
      @GabiN64 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yup everyone was a slasher

    • @sahulianhooligan7046
      @sahulianhooligan7046 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah Iverson paved way for the no defense heliocentric types like Harden / Westbrook / Irving types

    • @BrandNameLess
      @BrandNameLess Před 6 měsíci +4

      I’d say Kobe & Iverson were part of the initial progression of solo ball. And only got worse and time went on

  • @jacksonorwin2989
    @jacksonorwin2989 Před 6 měsíci +131

    The problems started in 2005 when the NBA decided to take out hand checking. Steph curry didn't change the game he adapted to the rules, and the new rules negate flow in the beautiful game of basketball.

    • @JoeyJoverAgbayani
      @JoeyJoverAgbayani Před 6 měsíci +10

      totally agree. hand checking is very fundamentals of the basketball. now the game is total shooting spree. cuz no one will prevent players from shooting.

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci +14

      It ALL started really changing when Lefraud joined.
      Yes there was that, but then we seen Lebron travelling and getting away with it, NOW he literally SHOVES people out of the way or throws elbows, NOW, we see players like Harden making a living from charging and travelling.
      They had to allow a certain amount so it wasnt too obvious its rigged for "The chosen one".
      ALL the things that make me cringe today started with that 1 clown and the Leagues efforts to elevat him..
      EVEN WHEN YOUNGER he nearly always needed a creen to do the 1 thing he can do, layup or dunk.

    • @Dias_De_Noe
      @Dias_De_Noe Před 6 měsíci +4

      ​​@@Lizards_Loungemy man! I'm ONE HUNDRED PERCENT with you
      LeBum and the media complex hype machine to elevate a mediocre bull-in-china-shop wino into "must see tv" is what destroyed the game
      Though it was kinda fun to watch those same standards turned against LeBaby, when Steph adapted to the rule changes and got LeFraud to become the biggest finals looser this side of Wilt

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci

      @@Dias_De_Noe "Bull in a China shop" haha , Thats EXACTLY what I thought and said when I first seen him, and his entitlement to breaking the rules continues to only get worse.

    • @Lizards_Lounge
      @Lizards_Lounge Před 6 měsíci

      @@Dias_De_Noe btw, its refreshing to meet others who can say what they see instead of pretending hes so special, and the delivery all around was hilarious, thanks man, I needed that, been arguing with these Lefraud fans for last few hours and had almost lost all hope in humanty.

  • @sergioa.9695
    @sergioa.9695 Před 6 měsíci +672

    They call it evolution i call it de-evolution and loss of fundamentals of basketball.

    • @smoothjulio
      @smoothjulio Před 6 měsíci +82

      LeBron highlights are literally just a layup line with guys moving out of the way or else he’s pushing them with the off arm.

    • @troyhines3219
      @troyhines3219 Před 6 měsíci +63

      @@smoothjulio My pet peeve is when no one challenges anything at the rim anymore . It’s called “making a business decision” no it’s calling having no pride in protecting your rim!

    • @cdknowledge
      @cdknowledge Před 6 měsíci +34

      ​@@troyhines3219"making a business decision", is that a term they coined now to excuse themselves from defensive duties!? 😂🤦‍♂️ so fkn cringeworthy...

    • @Kendricktimes2
      @Kendricktimes2 Před 6 měsíci

      These hating ass old heads 😂

    • @acewilliams7917
      @acewilliams7917 Před 6 měsíci +15

      Exaxtly💯 It's rec-ball at the ymca. What do guys do at the ymca? Throw up 3 pointers.

  • @charlessukati4866
    @charlessukati4866 Před 6 měsíci +7

    You're absolutely right my brother. The other day i watched the Jazz playing against the Lakers. Every moment the Jazz broke out in transition they would jack up a three-point shot. In the first quarter i saw them attempt more than ten such shots and making only one! It was so disgusting to watch. That's how they lost that game 😮😮

    • @Knightmessenger
      @Knightmessenger Před 6 měsíci +2

      I loathe moments like that, when players act like the shot clock is only 5 seconds.

  • @mayflower53
    @mayflower53 Před 6 měsíci +3

    A big part of this is the relaxation of travelling rules. Travelling was really enforced back in the day cause it gave a huge advantage to the dribbler. Now there are moves that are are allowed that are basically unguardable and you just have to hope the shooter misses. It really killed the ability of defenses to dictate the game. There’s no good defense to watch any more it’s just hoping the other team misses their shots basically and whoever shoots better wins.

  • @mariomanningfan
    @mariomanningfan Před 6 měsíci +34

    I went to a high school game recently. First time watching the game at that level in probably ten years. I was stunned. I watched an entire game and did not see a single screen. Every last kid was playing iso and the coaches just stood there and watched. I immediately came home and sent a text back to my buddies in Indiana asking if kids were playing that way back home. Sadly it seems like its everywhere.

    • @mysticlegion8088
      @mysticlegion8088 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Iso?? Wow, all game? Hell nah

    • @mariomanningfan
      @mariomanningfan Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@mysticlegion8088 I wish I were kidding. By halftime, I was looking anywhere for someone that might go help. A whole game and it didn't happen once...and even if you could imagine it, you'd at least expect a coach to be yelling on the sideline or in a huddle. Looked like they had no problem with it

    • @tnylum112
      @tnylum112 Před 6 měsíci +2

      facts. everybody plays the same way. just iso ball and shooting. no plays for one another. no ball movement. its sad.

    • @cartiaeketchupreacts
      @cartiaeketchupreacts Před 6 měsíci +1

      Dam u from Indiana I am to out of Gary Indiana

  • @thomash8501
    @thomash8501 Před 6 měsíci +38

    I had this conversation with my nephew last night. We used to be big-time NBA fans. The progression of time does not equal superiority. My nephew equated today's NBA to WWE. It's all about entertainment, dazzling the fans like Sean said with deep shots along with super athletic drives to the hoop. But pretty much everybody carries the ball when they dribble now, sound fundamentals are replaced with sheer athleticism and although today's players are competitive, they don't play with the same heart and pride that players had around the mid-2000's on back.

    • @kens2328
      @kens2328 Před 6 měsíci +2

      “But pretty much everybody carries the ball when they dribble now”. Couldn’t agree more.

    • @osaji922
      @osaji922 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Whoa! What a coincidence. I just equated today's loyal NBA watchers to wrestling fans where they either watch out of habit regardless of its bad quality or they delude themselves into thinking that it's good. They have a lot in common. I'm convinced that the only sports league that hasn't completely tanked is the NHL.

    • @openranks4519
      @openranks4519 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Guys are overpaid which impact desire for the game

    • @TheSands83
      @TheSands83 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But they don’t really even have any ability to finish at the rim anymore though

    • @ridemywheelie
      @ridemywheelie Před měsícem

      Just like the modern NFL which I think totally rigs games. All the modern sports are becoming the WWE.

  • @mspionage1743
    @mspionage1743 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man I loved this video. Someone from my age range, someone with my thoughts putting them out perfectly on a video that I know will get attention. Well done dude.

  • @ericcrane4871
    @ericcrane4871 Před 6 měsíci +1

    As an old head I agree. Remember when there were sharp shooters like Horry, Kerr, Person, Miller? They were rare indeed but were integrated into a TEAM game. Integration of a low post player, a defensive stopper, great rebounder, mid-range assassin, and passing wizard. Look at the 80s great teams and they all had this combination of fundamentally sound players on their rosters. Ainge, DJ, Bird, McHale, Parrish. Magic, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Green, Abdul-Jabbar. Isiah, Microwave, Dumars, Rodman, Lambier, Sally.
    Who has defensive GUARDS like DJ, Cooper, and Dumars? Plus Moncrief, Jordan, Robertson?

  • @ktapreswreckd921v9
    @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 6 měsíci +156

    Very well said! There are no rivalries in today's NBA. The post up game has practically vanished. And the defense is inferior to 80's and 90's NBA

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před 6 měsíci +3

      well tbh u need to be very tall to thrive in the post

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 6 měsíci +13

      @@jmgonzales7701 Not true. Charles Barkley, the late Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan we're all great when it came to scoring in the post.
      Of course none of them were centers.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@ktapreswreckd921v9 all of them are atleast 6'6. WHICH IS TALL ASF. Find a 5'10 play in the post effectively.

    • @ktapreswreckd921v9
      @ktapreswreckd921v9 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@jmgonzales7701 That's a very good point ☝️. But in the eighties and nineties and even the two thousands.Seven foot centers and six ten power forwards were the main players that played in the post.
      Charles,Kobe and Michael we're some of the few exceptions.

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Před 6 měsíci

      The only worthy rivalry in the NBA is Boston-LA but it’s been a hot minute

  • @into_play3226
    @into_play3226 Před 6 měsíci +76

    For me, basketball started to decline when Shaq left the game. I’ve always been a fan of low post, center-oriented basketball. It’s so much more strategic in nature than the hoisting of threes that we have today.

    • @xLeeroycranex
      @xLeeroycranex Před 6 měsíci +10

      I mean Jokic shoots 3s occasionally but he's the closet thing to prime Shaq since forever and he just won a championship

    • @JonSmith-hk1bq
      @JonSmith-hk1bq Před 6 měsíci +31

      What complex strategy is involved in getting the ball to a big guy and watching him back into a smaller guy?

    • @holymsophy
      @holymsophy Před 6 měsíci +12

      Oh no!
      I can't watch Shaq rub his fat behind against someone's groin!!
      😂😂😂😂
      Really, that is hands down, the worst type of basketball to watch. Low post play means the other 4.guys are just watching Shaq push someone under the hoop with his butt. And 2 other guys on the opposing team wondering if they should get into the action or not.
      You call that basketball?

    • @diegochavez6203
      @diegochavez6203 Před 6 měsíci +2

      What are you talking about Kobe always posted

    • @andrewmallary9213
      @andrewmallary9213 Před 6 měsíci

      @@holymsophyu never watch basketball do you 😭 u really think that’s all any team with shaq did ru special ed on purpose or u can’t help it?

  • @FactsNReason
    @FactsNReason Před 6 měsíci

    Love your content, love your perspectives, love your character! Keep rockin this channel!

  • @HiNRGboy
    @HiNRGboy Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm 40...definitely agree with you man...grew up watching Isiah, Jordan, Dominique, Hakeem, Magic, Price, Barkley, Petrovic, Drexler, etc... I'm actually even more of a fan of the 50's and 60's basketball like Elgin Baylor, Wilt, Russell, Cousy, Sam Jones, etc...some of my all time favorites right there

  • @40biggaman
    @40biggaman Před 6 měsíci +29

    Lack of defense, post up, pick and roll, and back screens are missing from today’s game.

    • @jordanjenkins1671
      @jordanjenkins1671 Před 6 měsíci +2

      They pick and roll all the time today.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@jordanjenkins1671 - youre right. thats literally all they do is set illegal screens all game long

    • @johnsondoeboy2772
      @johnsondoeboy2772 Před 6 měsíci +1

      You clearly don’t watch the game.

    • @tigeryumyums9407
      @tigeryumyums9407 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Back Screens and Pick and Rolls are literally 80% of teams offense nowadays. What are you talking about? Lmao

  • @bowmanencore
    @bowmanencore Před 6 měsíci +123

    I stopped watching basketball for probably 15 years and got back into it a few years ago. It's definitely a different game. I'm with you - although I'm still enjoying it to some extent, I'm concerned moving into the future, I just won't care anymore.
    For me, I dislike the frequent foul calls (like T'ing up people over silly stuff) plus the "almost" travels. I know there's some euro step, burro step, hero step, gather step, roman step, walmart shuffle, hamburger crawl, etc. But my god, it looks like they aren't required to dribble. They'll show these "awesome" replays that just look like a dude tucking a football and going for a touchdown. =\

    • @nathanlawson313
      @nathanlawson313 Před 6 měsíci +9

      Yup. Cade Cunningham last nite plowed headfirst into Michael Porter (standing still with hands up) and gets the and 1 call??? I mean, I'll take it. I'm a Detroit fan, but still...

    • @chrisallmaras1463
      @chrisallmaras1463 Před 6 měsíci +15

      The travels kill me. Giannis omg 😂

    • @Hellbender21
      @Hellbender21 Před 6 měsíci +8

      😂your description is spot on. I still like highschool and college. Modern NBA is garbage.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@chrisallmaras1463 - Giannis is such a terribly overrated player

    • @clownedoutonfoenemgrave6071
      @clownedoutonfoenemgrave6071 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Tucking that football 😭

  • @TheRbruin10
    @TheRbruin10 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I feel the same way brother. I grew up watching the NBA in the 90s and 2000s. The game is not what it use to be. That is why I value the game and legends from back in the day so much more. I feel that those players would dominate in today's era where teams dart a bunch 3s and where no one plays real defense. I see you have some 90s basketball wax, right on brother! I am also a 90s basketball card collector myself, especially Jordan cards.

  • @zackt3904
    @zackt3904 Před 6 měsíci +7

    One of the main problems is how much rest the players get now. The moment fatigue starts they get subbed out because everyone plays the same position. It used to be that each position only really had one sub each and that included injury. Now everyone is so fresh all the time and it gives the perception of "more athletic"

    • @HumanOptimization
      @HumanOptimization Před 6 měsíci +2

      very interesting perspective.

    • @MrMagnaniman
      @MrMagnaniman Před 6 měsíci +1

      That's partly true. Coaches are, indeed, smarter about subbing in fresh players. But, also, the players now are more athletic. Jordan won 6 in a row by making his team work harder than every other team. Do you think that no one learned from that?

    • @ryanmahrenholz3944
      @ryanmahrenholz3944 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Brother I ain’t gonna deny it’s changed the game but players being fresher and more available is definitely not a “problem” lmao. What’s ironic tho is they’ve also started practicing much less hard so players aren’t as conditioned and more prone to injury anyway despite the fact that the subbing should help that.

    • @zackt3904
      @zackt3904 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ryanmahrenholz3944 it’s a problem because it makes the sport a lot less competitive. Hardly anyone dives for loose balls anymore.

    • @MatewanMassacre
      @MatewanMassacre Před 6 měsíci

      LOL they do all play the same position. They're all Guards now.

  • @JonahsWail
    @JonahsWail Před 6 měsíci +5

    I just recently watched a youtube post of a bulls/spurs game from Duncan’s rookie year. Wasn’t a playoff game, regular season BATTLE between Jordan Rodman Robinson and Duncan. The intensity was unbelievable. Growing up in the Jordan era, I forgot how the games looked back then.

  • @cresv422
    @cresv422 Před 6 měsíci +18

    I agree with Sean, I’ve been thinking about everything he said for the past 4 years or so. I grew up on 00s basketball and miss centers and power forwards getting there shots down in the low post and point guards dishing the rock and every team not falling in love with 3s

  • @Ronaldalan114
    @Ronaldalan114 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Good vid. As an old head that grew up on showtime lakers in the late 70’s and early 80’s, i agree. I also miss defense, the ability to hand check, and a dominant center. The game has drastically changed. And, I haven’t watched the NBA in years. I only stay up on it through CZcams, watching content creators like yourself and Jimmy. I loved old school basketball.
    All that said, I do acknowledge the object is to score as many points as possible with the objective of scoring more than your opponent on any given day. Position-less basketball is here. Ball movement to the most open shooter with a 35% 3pt average has become the statistical advantage. That’s the only strategy that exists it seems, and, statistically they aren’t wrong. The object is to win the game and math has taken over. They don’t care about me, and what I like, they just want to win. They will do so with or without old heads, they don’t care.
    There is still some hope though. Giannis and Jokic are fun to watch.

  • @DionysusAlS
    @DionysusAlS Před 6 měsíci +4

    One simple solution might be to simply move the 3 point line back a few feet. Then the arithmetic of shooting more 3s even though you shoot at a lower percentage won't be in your favor because you'll be missing a lot more frequently, thus discouraging them. The elite shooters like Steph Curry won't be affected too much, but you won't have centers chucking up 3s like now.

    • @zelenicaljubljanica5410
      @zelenicaljubljanica5410 Před 6 měsíci +1

      just get rid of the three point line and enforce traveling. if people can shoot from that far now, they will still do it, but the higher percentages of getting closer will force that.

  • @Lymbe06
    @Lymbe06 Před 6 měsíci +81

    You hit all the right notes with this one bro. Just wanted to add, almost every team (at least good team) in the league in the 80s-90s had its own unique style. Yes it was centered around the star more often than not but even then that could be a super scorer like Jordan/Kobe/Iverson. A do-it-all forward like Bird/Barkley/Dunkan/Kemp. A shooter like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf/Reggie Miller/Ray Allen. The centers that reigned supreme, Jabbar/Hakeem/Robinson/Ewing. Teams had identities like the Run TMC (Tim Hardaway, Mitch Richmond, Chris Mullin) or the Bad Boys. The Knicks had Pat but were known for their defense and physicality. The Sonics were the original Lob City. Everything had character and soul.
    Now you draft the talent of the decade, a 7.4 feet monster with the fluidity and plasticity of a guy a foot shorter and you have him pulling up 3s under pressure as if he’s Damien Lillard.
    So yeah, rant’s over. Hope it gets better somehow.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +8

      Today they just hype the player while trashing the rest of the team. Like Lebron and the Lakers. Before, it was all about the team even though every team had a star player

    • @Dias_De_Noe
      @Dias_De_Noe Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@nydibsLeBron is hugely responsible for how trash everything is now
      Players like him harden etc attention seeking mommas boys who pout and whine when they don't get what they want

    • @tustari
      @tustari Před 6 měsíci +4

      Unfortunately it’s getting worse. I literally have to force myself to watch a basketball game now. The best point Sean made is that if you have fools like LeBum teaching the “fundamentals” of the game to the youth (which for him is stacking your team with superstars in order to provide the path of least resistance to a championship and yet still somehow manage to fail to win) then the future is bleak. Another reason for the death of the game is Adam Silver who has failed at every turn to correct the course of a sinking ship. The in-season tournament (which I still have no idea the point of) and the play-in has done nothing.

    • @Lymbe06
      @Lymbe06 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@tustari yep. The only way for that in-season tournament to succeed would be to have teams from all professional leagues in the US to compete in elimination games. Maybe have some NCAA teams there too. Winner moves another round, loser goes home. Imagine a G league mid-tier team going all the way because a few role players got hot for a month or two. But that would mean getting some excitement in the sport and we can't have that, better just paint the floors to be sure.

    • @GisherJohn24
      @GisherJohn24 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Also. No devotion to a single team, rookie to retirement, no physical contact anymore, no teams that win by just defense alone. Remove the hand checks and physicality, it’s removed the ability to win a championship by defense alone. Ee got zero memorable personalities, traveling is rampant, zero post game, no rivalries, no flu games, fighting was part of the game and the players who fight got a small fine and played next game. Game went on. Thank my creator we can watch classic games on CZcams.

  • @xosemblanco
    @xosemblanco Před 6 měsíci +58

    Euroleague games are 100 times more interesting than any actual NBA games.

    • @cornbreadmilton5265
      @cornbreadmilton5265 Před 6 měsíci +5

      I watched some of Luka's Real Mandrid highlights a few months back

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +3

      I tried watching some euroleague games recently and theyre trash. Same crap as the NBA. So many travels and touch fouls

    • @n6urprf5
      @n6urprf5 Před 6 měsíci +2

      You should try and catch an Australian league basketball game (NBL). They play under FIBA rules and the games are a lot more physical with actual defence being played.

    • @student99bg
      @student99bg Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@nydibs On that front Euroleague has also gone to shit. Just a couple of years ago, maybe 2016 and it wasn't like that. Still, in Euroelague I get the feeling that every possession matters, both defense and offense try their absolute best every possession while in the NBA it looks like they half ass it even on offense and especially on defense

  • @psychbookman8613
    @psychbookman8613 Před 6 měsíci

    Wonderfully said, so many excellent points. The beauty of team sports is how distinct individuals, with distinct talents, and distinct personalities, can come together to create beauty/excellence. Often times, these people would not have anything in common, but for the fact they are playing together on a team - think Rodman, Pippin, Kerr and Jordan. I too worry that we are losing that aspect...

  • @ronaldrosario7
    @ronaldrosario7 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I completely agree with you. I remember coming to this realization back in 2019. Chucking up 3s the whole game is boring.

  • @mrcha84
    @mrcha84 Před 6 měsíci +29

    I think you got the point, spot on.
    Everything started with GSW, their incredible shooting and small ball lineups that were unguardable using typical 90's lineups.
    Teams were, in some way, forced to do it. The league embraced it. The teams and coaches and their staff saw 3pt as the "holly grail" of basketball.
    The league loved "the bigger the better" philosophy. More points than ever, more pace than ever...
    What do we, basketball connoisseurs ,got from all of this?
    Basketball inflation.
    Insane scoreboards, 3 pt shootouts, little to no defence in the season games...40 pts game today is a 20 points game back in the 90's.
    Just like the inflation of the dollar.
    Now basketball entered the "Unicorn" era. Everyone in the league is searching for extremely tall ,athletic, universal player to build roster around.
    We had Bol Bol, Porzingis, Holmgren, Wenbanyama...
    But there is a guy that broke the modern NBA matrix...at least for some time.
    Nikola Jokic.
    I can only hope that we will see players like him in the future...
    One more thing.
    Most disgusting trend nowdays is forming instant "super teams". Loyalty is out of the NBA, the players act like divas changing teams like socks...It is pathetic to watch.

    • @sergioa.9695
      @sergioa.9695 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It all started with "The Decision" but definitely the Kerr GSW was a tornado that completely changed how the game is played and the league embraced it softening and taking away the beauty of the game more and more. Jokic is a breath of fresh air and one of the few players that i respect nowdays, definitely european talents are the biggest hope fir the future because in the usa young players don't grow up learning fundamentals of the game anymore.

    • @DaShamGodDONFrankBatista347
      @DaShamGodDONFrankBatista347 Před 6 měsíci +1

      "Inflation of Basketball" is a perfect way to describe it.

    • @JoeyJoverAgbayani
      @JoeyJoverAgbayani Před 6 měsíci +1

      Totally agree

    • @InfiniteCoreXD
      @InfiniteCoreXD Před 6 měsíci +1

      Joker is a great player, but to me he’s just a numbers guy, even with a championship. That explains most of these players now, they’re for instagram and numbers, you got 30+ year old men on instagram like kids.

    • @bogusphone8000
      @bogusphone8000 Před 6 měsíci

      I would underpin this with the league deciding to stifle defense. A foul used to be called on the initiator of contact. Now, anyone in the way of the offensive player (used to be called defense) is now given a foul.
      If the league was too simply roll the rules back to normalcy and restore balance, I believe basketball would be awesome once more.

  • @No-dw5zc
    @No-dw5zc Před 6 měsíci +25

    The biggest isssue in todays NBA is the lack of defensive minded teams. It is all about the offense. I used to love clutch blocks and other hustle plays but the teams in the NBA don't care about so we have results like 142-139 which sucks.

    • @user-jv9qz2bu1r
      @user-jv9qz2bu1r Před 6 měsíci +2

      Just like a 12 - 10 baseball game can be boring - too much emphasis on HR in BB - strikeout or hit a HR very boring nothing like. a tight 3 - 2 baseball win with neatly turned double plays. Same affliction.

    • @No-dw5zc
      @No-dw5zc Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-jv9qz2bu1r I agree it is all about spectacle not about better competition

    • @therealjaystone2344
      @therealjaystone2344 Před 6 měsíci

      Clippers are the latest victim to fall into the super team

  • @kobebr8480
    @kobebr8480 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I totally agree with everything you said. I love basketball just like you describe. It’s just a love for the game. I try to watch today and there are some amazing talented players but the foul calls are sickening. Keep up the great work.

  • @gmenelson
    @gmenelson Před 6 měsíci

    You are so spot on with your whole take! I couldn’t agree more. And, Like you, this comes from a place of love for the game and the NBA of my youth

  • @flameout12345
    @flameout12345 Před 6 měsíci +20

    The weird thing is that US still produces the best talents, but it's not tailored for traditional basketball that's played all over the world. Nowadays, it's more tailored to marketability rather than traditionally.

    • @Jerree
      @Jerree Před 6 měsíci +6

      Last 4 MVP's weren't American. When Giannis won his first one, 4 outta 5 award recipients that night weren't American

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 6 měsíci

      no you dont

    • @cornbreadmilton5265
      @cornbreadmilton5265 Před 6 měsíci

      Olympics right around da corner,Noah n then rest of the World better get ready

    • @cdknowledge
      @cdknowledge Před 6 měsíci +5

      As a whole, yes - but the best talents itw rn belong to Europe, and we don't even really care for basketball like that.
      I've supported Real Madrid for over 20 years and didn't even realise they had a basketball team until about a year ago while flicking through the sports channels...

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +4

      The NBA manufactures stars today by giving them a ton of free throws. Giannis, Embiid, Harden, SGA... all mid players without the free throws and if they actually officiated the game by the rules

  • @sosdosautomaticos
    @sosdosautomaticos Před 6 měsíci +12

    Bro i'm from Brazil and great basketball fã as you, 43 years old, unfortunatelly i lost my excitement to watch NBA today cuz every team looks like the same team, and i can say the same thing about the players too, it's just a "rain" of three points and thats it, thank you for the great vídeo!!! All the best brother!

    • @felixcat9455
      @felixcat9455 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes I think that’s part of it. The teams all seem the same. Players bounce from team to team. They are all friends with each other off the court. The teams just don’t have an identity from playing together for years and years. No chemistry, no defense and not much passion. It has gotten boring. Sadly

  • @MDTRAIN
    @MDTRAIN Před 6 měsíci

    You took the words right out of my mouth. Great commentary. 🏀😎

  • @patrickhoisington5111
    @patrickhoisington5111 Před 6 měsíci

    Love this video, I said the same thing(s) the other day on a social media post... I miss teams having different offenses and defenses, the majority is just pick and roll over and again...

  • @meoptica8602
    @meoptica8602 Před 6 měsíci +17

    Totally agreed! I think the lack of defence coaching is the reason it's all happening. Back in my days nobody could just dribble to the hoop and dunk. The defensive players would "slaughter" him before it happens. Now - it's like open door invitation.

    • @chrisallmaras1463
      @chrisallmaras1463 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's the big contracts and all the money on the line...nobody wants to get hurt that's why defense is gone and it won't likely return.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +5

      Thats not the coaching, it's the rules.
      When I played ball my coach said if someone enters the paint, you hit him. And if they enter the paint again after that, it's because you didnt hit him hard enough

    • @WhathehadasSole
      @WhathehadasSole Před 6 měsíci

      That, knock him on his ass when they come to the paint, ended with those Bad Boy Pistons. People didn't want to see that dirty play slowing down or injuring Stars anymore, especially for Jordan. See if MJ was getting knocked down going to the hoop after he 1st ring🤔. We know he was Michael Jackson big after that, couldn't touch him

  • @Bez_Spiny
    @Bez_Spiny Před 6 měsíci +17

    Agreed 100% NBA has been heading in the wrong direction for a dozen years, it's worth adding to what you said about rule changes and refereeing, whistling every minimal contact between players. Give us back the basketball of the 90s!

  • @Illuminatethedark_
    @Illuminatethedark_ Před 6 měsíci

    This is the video that made me subscribe to your channel. I agree with you. The game is changing and I miss the way it used to be.

  • @ap6160
    @ap6160 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great video! I stopped watching the NBA years back. It's sad what the game has devolved into

  • @rocsteadii
    @rocsteadii Před 6 měsíci +23

    It’s not about the beauty of the game anymore. It’s just about putting up high numbers and selling tickets. It all boils down to making money and how much you can get with the occasional highlight. 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @troyhines3219
      @troyhines3219 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I haven’t bought a ticket in 20 years, don’t buy merchandise anymore, definitely not paying a “League Pass” subscription to watch the games live.

    • @pierovittori1076
      @pierovittori1076 Před 6 měsíci

      same here@@troyhines3219

    • @shaunphillips3236
      @shaunphillips3236 Před 6 měsíci +1

      It's called inflated stats

  • @DerethAC
    @DerethAC Před 6 měsíci +10

    I always hear about how there is more athleticism in today's NBA, and I think that the point always lacks context. If there is more athleticism, it's only because the current game is based on finesse and not power like it used to be. The big, physical power forwards like Charles Oakley and Otis Thorpe are gone now, where back in prior eras they were essential. The soft, finesse game that we have today has allowed for more "athleticism" because of the rule changes. It wasn't that you couldn't find just as many athletic players back then.

    • @8ealer
      @8ealer Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yeah, nobody is more athletic these days, they are just lighter and are not required to learn fundaments, so they could just run and jump all game long. They are not learning many different moves or coordination - I'd even suspect it is actually the reason why they are so injury prone.
      And on top of it - you don't see any flashy dunks anymore. Starting with Blake Griffin, everyone just tries to jump over and push away the shot blocker. And on the dunk contests that's all they can do - jump over people and attributes. No crazy 360 windmills or majestic hangtime. Only exceptions like Zion and Ant maybe are still into that kind of stuff.
      Back in a day everyone was trying to show off their physical abilities. Now it is just score and get back on "defense".

  • @localneo-graphic4647
    @localneo-graphic4647 Před 6 měsíci

    Dang, you're always so positive in your vids, almost weird seeing you being critical. I can hear the passion, but to me it's more than just 3pt shooting. If the League actually does something about illegal screens and all the other offense favored officiating, we'd see less 3s. 3s are just a symptom, not the problem.

  • @benmurawski
    @benmurawski Před 6 měsíci +10

    You have valid concerns, Sean. I agree with them all.

  • @josephD32
    @josephD32 Před 6 měsíci +50

    One thing many people don't pay attention to when it comes to guys like Steph Curry is his off-ball movement. Everyone looks at his shooting and tries to emulate that, but they don't look at his movement, running off screens and positioning himself for a nice open shot or a shot where the contest comes just a tad too late. They want to shoot like Curry, but not do the rest of the work Curry does.

    • @JohnJFong
      @JohnJFong Před 6 měsíci +5

      Reggie Miller ran off screen all the time. The original 3pt assassin.

    • @josephD32
      @josephD32 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@JohnJFong Absolutely! Guys like him worked to get those good shots, instead of just chucking the ball up just because they're at the three point line.

    • @GMMANN419
      @GMMANN419 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Reggie Miller, ray Allen, rip Hamilton they all did it better with handchecking

    • @josephD32
      @josephD32 Před 6 měsíci +9

      @@GMMANN419 ok, but the point is, most fans and even a lot of players focus on and try to emulate ONLY Curry's shooting, without emulating the rest of the work he puts in to get those good shots.

    • @GMMANN419
      @GMMANN419 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@josephD32I totally agree with that. Good point. It's like in society in general everyone wants to be rich for example but don't want to put in the work it takes to get there. I see what you mean now. Thank you

  • @idonttext9783
    @idonttext9783 Před 6 měsíci

    Great videos my guy

  • @kray97
    @kray97 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I hear you on the evolution of the game - after awhile threes get boring. I think my biggest issue is with load management. We got all these players in the league who love getting paid more than actually playing basketball.

    • @keepmoving2023-ku7nb
      @keepmoving2023-ku7nb Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly 💯 growing up in the 80s and 90s watching the NBA all of the players played all 82 games

  • @insanusmaximus2857
    @insanusmaximus2857 Před 6 měsíci +52

    I grew up a Larry Bird fan, and stopped watching not too long after the Dream Team. The game seemed more cynical in the 90s, guys were more concerned with their shoe contracts than winning titles. Everybody wanted to be Jordan, but nobody had his fire. I started watching again for Kobe and Duncan, but the superteams turned me off again. I can enjoy the modern game, but it's not "my" game, and I don't think I'll ever regain the love that I once had for it.

    • @DrHDoofenshmirtzphd
      @DrHDoofenshmirtzphd Před 6 měsíci +10

      I have no clue what you are talking about with the 90s not being about winning titles. Were we watching two different sports? Because teams were going hard for a title. Look at Chuck during his run with the Suns, the Jazz with Stockton and Malone, the Rockets getting back to back titles, etc. Those guys were all playing to win.

    • @sergioa.9695
      @sergioa.9695 Před 6 měsíci +7

      I grew up loving basketball during the mid 80's with the great Lakers-Celtics rivalry but i absolutely loved the 90's era, i didn't get the feeling you had at all. To me was a very competitive and tough era, the problem is Jordan had an unique drive and was so much better than everybody else. I think the 90's and the 00's are probably my favorite eras of basketball. Nowdays i absolutely have the feeling that players don't care at all about winning but only about money and personal stats.

    • @nydibs
      @nydibs Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@DrHDoofenshmirtzphd - yeah, it wasnt until the '98 lockout that that NBA started turning into crap. The early 2000s were such a watered down league. You had teams like the AI 76ers and the New Jersey Nets making it to the Finals, what a joke

    • @AlldatJazz-rw9wy
      @AlldatJazz-rw9wy Před 6 měsíci +3

      I read you all's comments, and it's not the game it's the players. The game will always be the game, but with all the rule changes, and so many diva players that is the turn off. The one turn off that's making watching the game so hard is how they keep throwing Lebron is goat in everyone's fact. We all have seen real team ball, but when it becomes about just one person it gets boring. Everyday the media is all about Lebron, and the game hasn't taken it's natural course, or being hindered from taking that course because of Lebron and how long he's still is playing. We respected Kareem for longevity, and his personality, but this boi Lebron comes in calling himself the goat, when none of greats would never do that, not even Mike. I said that to say this, when Lefraud is gone, then hopefully we'll see how the game is developing, because these young players like LaMelo makes the game fun to watch. I feel y'all's agitation, but keep hope alive because one day, he'll be gone and the game will be anew again.

    • @bobbywinstead1
      @bobbywinstead1 Před 6 měsíci +4

      I think it is overlooked that in the early 2000s the new faces of the league, like Grant Hill, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Penny Hardaway, and Yao Ming to name a few, had abbreviated primes because of injury. A couple of those guys, if they continued to improve and had an extra 7-8 years to play at a high level, would have made things a lot more exciting.

  • @Matthew-gz4oh
    @Matthew-gz4oh Před 6 měsíci +7

    Glad you said this as the NBA use to have multiple ways to win, and not just shooting.

  • @MrThepeacefulone
    @MrThepeacefulone Před 6 měsíci

    Spot on my man! Today’s game is also effecting pick up Bball. I think one rule change would change a lot about today’s game. Push back the 3 pointer. Make players learn to shoot mid range again.
    Give bigger players once again incentive to go into the post. I think this would even bring back defense. It’s in my dreams.

  • @djacnotdc
    @djacnotdc Před 6 měsíci +2

    I have to agree with you.
    I was a lifelong fan of basketball. I grew up loving the showtime Lakers . As I grew older, I didn’t become a loyal Laker fan but a fan of the style of play. I despised the rough defense of the bad boy Pistons that became the trend so I gravitated towards the Bulls triangle offense and fell in love with the free flow Princeton offense of the Webber era Kings and the Nash era suns.
    Fast forward to today and we now miss the tough defense and the post game of the 90s and 2000s. Games then were hard fought. Today, the offense skill set crazy and it’s at video game levels. I really don’t know how good this will be in the long run but the game is losing old school fans.
    Time for an NBA rule change. Bring back the hand check. Penalize players for flopping.

  • @Magnificat42
    @Magnificat42 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Football has changed as well. Yeah I miss the old NBA, 80s 90s for me.❤

  • @j.wright8157
    @j.wright8157 Před 6 měsíci +40

    When MJ took his last shot of the 98' season, I'll never forget the words that came out of my mouth..."It's over."😟

  • @sukcesor100
    @sukcesor100 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Couldn’t agree more. I switched to european basketball. Hard defense and tactics are still there. Love for the game.

  • @charlottehellis5509
    @charlottehellis5509 Před 6 měsíci

    Great video. I love your passion and completely agree with your comments.

  • @scotthayes1210
    @scotthayes1210 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Bro that low post move with the reverse lay up. It looked smooth as hell

  • @legimlugero
    @legimlugero Před 6 měsíci +17

    This is why Nikola Jokic is dominating he has the fundamentals that he can shoot outside, pound you in the inside, and still have the mid range game, plus he can read the defense, and pass good as well.

    • @jasonvargas4798
      @jasonvargas4798 Před 6 měsíci +7

      Exactly, he knows how to play the game, and everyone is stunned because he understands fundamentals.

    • @sergioa.9695
      @sergioa.9695 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Jokic is by far the best player right now but make no mistake also him is taking advantage to play in this era. Imagine him having to deal with guys like Duncan, Garnett, Wallace, Robinson, Hakeem, Ewing and Shaq

    • @jajanka10
      @jajanka10 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@sergioa.9695Oh, Jokic and Duncan would bet like watching two sides of the same coin. He has loads of power un his lower body and his playstyle does not need him to explosive. Imagine the unfairness if he plates with someone like or close to Kobe..
      In a era where Penny was feasting because he could go left efficiently.. Not a direct quote, but he has said it homself.

  • @georgiosgrigoriadis6200
    @georgiosgrigoriadis6200 Před 6 měsíci +1

    One of the best videos i have ever watched about this theme. I subscribed to your channel after this one. There is nothing to apologize to the youngsters about, their moden era of basketball is worse than the past ones plain and simple. Whether they like it or not , i do not give a damn, it's the truth. I am from Europe and a big NBA fan for almost 30 years (from 1990). I played basketball myself for 20 years and i respected the physical and hard nosed opponenmts i faced. I loved physicality and they have taken that away. I also liked balanced attacks with back to the basket moves, mid range shots and three pointers, not the 3point circus the NBA has become now. I used to watch almost every game from my beloved teams up until 2015. After that year, i have limited the regular season games to about 20-25 every year, i cannot stand them. I like the playoffs though. I really believe that the Warriors style of play, didn't affect basketball in the right way. And fuinally, the rule changes made it a soft ass league for soft ass fans. Euroleague is the best league right now

  • @kc-nl8zc
    @kc-nl8zc Před 6 měsíci +1

    Agreed. When a team is down by 1 with seconds left and they go for the 3 is sad to watch

  • @SherwinLoyola
    @SherwinLoyola Před 6 měsíci +6

    It seriously might be time to consider going back to playing without a 3 point line again.

  • @michaelairjordan23gaot24
    @michaelairjordan23gaot24 Před 6 měsíci +6

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  • @12grain
    @12grain Před 6 měsíci

    It's crazy how much more drawn to games I am from earlier eras compared to today (I'm 29, grew up watching the NBA a lot in the mid 00s). During COVID I would watch old regular season games like Hakeem dueling David Robinson and those games felt electrifying compared to today. I went to watch an NBA Finals game with a friend at a sports bar this spring and we were some of the only people there. I don't even think we watched the full game to be honest. I hope things change though, I loved growing up around Chicago seeing the passion Derrick Rose's Bulls brought to the game

    • @liverpoolfcx7
      @liverpoolfcx7 Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah I’m sure that since you went to dead bar and couldnt pay attention for a whole game that the NBA is in trouble lol

  • @mwright_boomer
    @mwright_boomer Před měsícem

    You’re speaking the minds of a lot of people, Sean. All progress is change, but not all change is progress and that definitely applies to the state of the NBA

  • @DavidTpitCabrera
    @DavidTpitCabrera Před 6 měsíci +5

    Lets talk about Jokic, thats pure basketball imo 😊

  • @shadyaov7041
    @shadyaov7041 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I think a lot of old Nba fans will watch Euroleague as it closer format to what Nba used to be.
    I got same problem as a new/ish fan of basketball feels like nearly every game is a 3 point contest and when I watched documentaries about MJ,Bird,Magic,AI,Shaq and seen footages of those times I was like "woah! I wished I played basketball instead of soccer in my younger days."
    Basketball to me became like a drug since during lockdown I had lots of spare time and from day 1 fallen in love with the sport.
    Thats why even though my favourite teams are Chicago due to MJ and Lakers because of Shaq/Kobe I always root for players like Giannis/Kawhi which play like old school players did.

  • @fernandomartinez8932
    @fernandomartinez8932 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I can’t think of a more beautiful play than a mid range fadeaway (see Jordan) or back to the basket post move that ends up with a layup (see Olajuwon). Thinking that we will never see those kind of players again, makes me sad.

  • @akalapov
    @akalapov Před 6 měsíci

    Maan... you are 100% right on all points. I am feeling the same and beginning to switch from NBA to EuroLeague basketball for all of the reasons you pointed. In Europe there are still all 5 positions and pure passion for the game.

  • @crashoverride23
    @crashoverride23 Před 6 měsíci +12

    I honestly believe that adding the 3-pointer to the game is what led to today. It's became a game of horse or just a 3 point competition which is very boring. If they remove the 3 pointer today's NBA players would not even know what to do out there they will be completely lost.

    • @chrisallmaras1463
      @chrisallmaras1463 Před 6 měsíci

      So true 😂

    • @cornbreadmilton5265
      @cornbreadmilton5265 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Im Pretty sure they would still score from long range.

    • @schifterrattrap7541
      @schifterrattrap7541 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Although most players today see the 3 pointer as the be all and end all, I dont think its the addition of the 3 pointer that has eroded the game to what it is today. A lot of bad things have happened to the game. Refs allow players to travel, theres no hand checking anymore, players dont respect their coaches like they used to, no one plays defence, Centers and power forwards want to shoot 3's instead of posting up inside and grabbing rebounds, possessions arnt cherished, its so sad to see. The NBA is a complete shit show compared to what it used to be.

    • @cornbreadmilton5265
      @cornbreadmilton5265 Před 6 měsíci

      @@schifterrattrap7541 i wouldnt say complete sh!t show

    • @jacobscholtissek2410
      @jacobscholtissek2410 Před 6 měsíci

      @@cornbreadmilton5265 complete not but compared to what it used to yeah it is

  • @JayMil365
    @JayMil365 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Totally agree Shawn the Splash Syndrome has killed the enjoyment of watching the NBA today, theres no one who can shoot it like Klay and Steph, luckily we have The Joker who plays like a old school hooper, love your vids man, keep on doing what you do.

  • @bigredmachine510
    @bigredmachine510 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Growing up, I was a big kid who loved basketball. I was always heavier than most players, but I modeled my game after Shaq and Ben Wallace. (I’m only 6’4.) I noticed that basketball started shifting when in high school, I couldn’t keep up with the perimeter style of our offense. ( I was the only one who even tried to rebound.) I’ve never been a fan of small ball and to me that’s when the game started dying. Now, there’s no teamwork whatsoever. The reason why teams like the 2000s Spurs were so successful was because everyone could contribute in different ways. No one man highlight reels, just everyone playing together to win and not to just look good individually.

  • @ARi-qp8lc
    @ARi-qp8lc Před 6 měsíci

    Sean, so many comments show you hit something in us. I can`t see the games in tv, because I am from germany. But I see so many clips from current games in the internet and i see the same as you: iso-ball and taking tough shots (hero ball), bad teamplay, players could not moving without the ball, 4 guys behind the 3pt line standing and waiting. When I see clips from the spurs playing team basketball with beautiful passing and moving my joy for the game comes back.

  • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
    @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci +13

    Make the 90's great again.

    • @SuperSikarlo
      @SuperSikarlo Před 6 měsíci

      That makes zero sense

    • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
      @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci

      @@SuperSikarlo Congratulation on your opinion, now comeback with a counter argument.

    • @SuperSikarlo
      @SuperSikarlo Před 6 měsíci

      @@Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer I don't need to. You should be smart enough to know this.

    • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
      @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci

      @@SuperSikarlo Pathetic excuse, can't formulate a simple argument?

    • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
      @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci

      @@SuperSikarlo And yes, you have to, that's how rhetoric actually work. Or you can go back playing with the kids.

  • @Des420
    @Des420 Před 6 měsíci +5

    The NBA we loved died in the US awhile ago… It’s become style over substance. It’s more important to look good and pad stats, than it is to win. There are some bright spots in Europe where they still play that kind of ball, and not coincidentally those players are currently dominating the league.

  • @JM_Hansei
    @JM_Hansei Před 6 měsíci +4

    Dude, you're right, I have the same feelings towards today's NBA way of play as you...
    I'm 50 yold and I grew up and got interested in basketball by watching 80's basketball (the first NBA game I watched, was Lakers, vs Detroit) and it really amazed me the type of basketball those team played back then. And then, Jordan and the Bulls started to shine, conquering the 90's, and then, in the mid 2000's, Lakers dominated and after 2010, the NBA totally got lost because it started to arrive those Lebrons (yuck), Curry's, Donci's, etc, etc (you know what I mean) where as you mentioned, the whole NBA became almost only about 3 point shooting and eliminating some rules for the $ake of making the game of basketball more 'entertaining' by scoring a tons of point, decimating the physicality and interior game in the paint. So yes, NBA today in my opinion is kind of bore because teams use 3 point shooting as a system (I grab the ball, and I shoot from way behind the 3-point arc line, no matter if the shoot clock is is just starting) to elapse rather than as an option and coaches are agreed with that; also you can see that change and 'evolution' in the many of today's players and positions: there are no more center players sizing more than 7'0 (and those few ones, also like to shoot 3 points) and are not so strong or bulkier like Malone, Wallace, Shaq, etc.
    So yeah, NBA today sucks but, unfortunately things will never be the same and we have us, as NBA fans, to live in the present and adapt to what it's today.

  • @roddas26
    @roddas26 Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you for saying what had to be said.
    There are so many of us. ✊

  • @Beautimo1
    @Beautimo1 Před 6 měsíci +3

    I'm a NBA Fan from Germany since early 90s when the first NBA Game comes to the cable TV .
    I loved the game so much but todays 3PT Shooting Contest the most time >>> I watching more Soccer then NBA Games.
    The new architype of NBA Players such Wemby, Chet, Joel long and skinny are good but then they more injured then play what brings it to your franchise>>> nothing.

  • @bjornep2
    @bjornep2 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I totally agree. The last team I really enjoyed watching (from the perspective of being a basketball player of the 80s and 90s) were the Clippers with Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. They could create some inside magic from time to time, although it wasn't that long ago, with the assistance of CP3 and a couple of other guys.

  • @ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot
    @ElizabethAldrich-bb1ot Před 5 měsíci

    I’m with you 100%. I’m 74 and have loved all sports-college and pros-since I was very young. My favorite basketball by far was the 80s. It was about TEAMS rather than stars; playing in the paint rather than jacking threes; ball handling/passing; players staying with a team their entire careers. I could go on, but you get it. It was basketball, not a circus. I miss Bird and Magic, Dr. J, Dominique, rivalries, very physical play(no flagrant foul, but not dirty players vs. today’s floppers). I just don’t feel the same about today’s NBA and it’s not about being a hater. It’s my preference and it was exciting. I don’t feel that today and I make no apologies.

  • @cerberuscombatmma
    @cerberuscombatmma Před 6 měsíci

    I love this channel

  • @martinmariasonneborn4480
    @martinmariasonneborn4480 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Dear Sean,
    in addition to the points mentioned by you, the tendency to eliminate tough defense and Rodmanesque, physical aspects in todays bb hurts me the most. For example resulting in players shying away from blocking dunking attempts to avoid getting posterised or fouls getting called so quickly, that some players made a living of flopping. All this gives todays bb an air of just striving to be a clean-shaven product instead aspiring to be the sweat-dripping and sometimes bad-boy sport I loved like you did.
    Btw: Where did you play in Germany?

    • @kens2328
      @kens2328 Před 6 měsíci

      “…players shying away from blocking dunking attempts to avoid getting posterised…”. That couldn’t be a more perfect example of what’s wrong with the game. The stare-downs, woofing, flopping, all that crap makes me turn the channel every time. Grade school players do all that crap now, and it couldn’t disgust me more.

  • @leedesigner1977
    @leedesigner1977 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I agree hugely, Sean. Also really liked the personal videos edited in, made me extremely nostalgic of my own basketball adventures from the age of 6 to 40. I am from the UK where basketball in the 90s to around 2015 was massive, and now has tailed off considerably. Like you I was consumed by NBA and NCAA basketball, I would be keeping an eye on SLAM and HOOP magazines to know when the next FOX VHS tape was being released... and the only way I could get some of the best games was through PONTEL Europe, which I subscribed to receive a VHS video through the post with several games featured each month (cost lots of $$$), as there was only EUROSPORT and C4 which were showing a small amount of games.
    Now, sadly, I just can't watch it. Any of it. I stick to collecting the highest res versions of 90's NBA. Even games where my favorite teams LOSE, as its better than watching anything from today. This is of course my own journey and my own thoughts, but most of my friends which are American, Creation and Ukrainian feel the same way. So much talent these days, but I just so against how its being coached and managed.
    Sean, love your channel, you do a great job mate.
    Cheers
    Lee

  • @kenyadadenmark6271
    @kenyadadenmark6271 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I fully agree with him, honestly if you watch the games from that era, those guys had a better skill set with team ball the way they would switch on picks boxing out screens the passing in the lane was much more difficult due to the way players crashed the boards like everyone wanted a rebound it was exciting to watch and learn here's a good game to watch the 93 ECF series game 5

  • @carmelotansengco4605
    @carmelotansengco4605 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I couldn't agree more. Back in the day, the emphasis was on high percentage shots. I know because my personal coach told me that. I could shoot the occasional three but I was more into the 15-18 foot range going in. Defense was another part of the game that was emphasized. If your shooting was off, you could affect the game with your defense. You were also told to practice your footwork. Giannis wanted to become a student of Hakeem and all Gilbert Arenas could do was make fun of him. It's so sad what the game has become.

  • @nathanlawson313
    @nathanlawson313 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Chuck more 3s ≠ more skill
    More skill = More skill
    Those skills are being lost because guys only practice shooting from half court. (Footwork? Not important bc there's no travels anymore. That's just one...)

  • @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer
    @Quadruple-Vaxxed-Boomer Před 6 měsíci +8

    I agree 100% with you on this, we are both geared in 90's basketball aka the best era. I like to look at Centers playing in the paint, not shooting from mars.

  • @iking311
    @iking311 Před 6 měsíci

    This is 200% facts! It’s really sad the beauty of basketball starting to diminish now

  • @akumawani
    @akumawani Před 6 měsíci +1

    the game reached its apex in the 90s- and its been sliding ever since. but dont be sad that its over. smile that it happened

  • @sandych33ks1
    @sandych33ks1 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I can't watch the NBA anymore. I haven't for over 12 years now. The 80s and 90s were the best..I only watch a little college ball and that's it. The modern NBA is unwatchable.

    • @Amick44
      @Amick44 Před 6 měsíci

      I last watched regularly as the great Spurs teams won in 17'.