***pinning this since everyone who comments misses the point*** Like I say in the short, obviously the pitch of your switch will influence the sound. but it's on such a micro level in comparison to everything else in a keyboard. The case, keycap profile/material, plate, mods, acoustics all have a significantly bigger influence on sound, as shown in the video. I could put the thockiest switch i own into that bakeneko, and my kbd67lite with the clackiest switch i own would still sound thockier. Personally, I would look for a switch that has the best specs and reviews (smoothness, stem wobble, quality of spring, build quality) instead of searching for the "thocciest switch". lets be real, the thockiest switch is probably Topre. If all you care about is pitch, then buy a fully plastic topre board and call it a day. Lets say the internet told you that gateron Black Inks are the deepest thocciest switch. Well, you buy them, put them in your board, but... they're too heavy of a spring for you and you hate typing on your board, oh and they're also scratchy asf. Does sound really matter if the keyboard doesnt feel good to type on? You're better off searching for a switch you'lll actually like in terms of the feel over the sound. Hope that helps everyone looking for a switch. stem wobble, spring quality (lack of crunch), leaf ping/spring ping, smoothness are all things you should worry about more, in my opinion.
It is NOT a micro level with all switches is it though. I have some Bulbasar for example (PC top/base housing POM stem) that are far far deeper than every other switch I have, like the pitch has been down shifted. This is not subtle it is a HUGE difference. Yes you can adjust the sound by what/how you build the board but a long pole short travel switch will be always be far louder than a more "normal" switch in the same board. I get what you are saying but think you downplay the effect the switch can have, sorry :)
lol yea in a hobby of MICRO differences this is such a bad take. People want to know what the deepest sounding switch is so they can weigh that properly over the other properties of the switch. Not to mention modders. Sure the number one deepest switch might be a bit heavy, but could you do a spring swap and keep some of those sound benefits while getting a better spring? Could you do a better lube job and get rid of some of the rattle? These other factors can be worked on.
There are, this video is just wrong and trying to deflect that switches sound different and DO contribute to the sound of the board. Get a switch with PC top/bottom and that will make even a Milky Yellow Pro feel like a very clacky high pitch switch.
@@fansmx4more like, the denser they are the higher their pitch is, and you can find their density using Google, for example are the plates of boards, the higher they weigh and the denser they are, the more higher they're pitch goes, there's a video regarding this with keyboard, better watch that for more info!
@kediw doesn't matter nearly as much as the stuff the commenter above listed... but if i had to say THOCKIEST, maybe boba LT for linear, and idk bobas for tactile? but i'd argue that the feel is much more important. I personally can't stand how Bobas feel, so i'd recommend getting a switch tester kit from like canonkeys or something to help you decide. seriously, DO NOT pick by sound. if you dont like typing feel, you wont like the board you build.
Ok, but for the people who actually don't need to be educated in logical thinking [and can ignore the other filters from the equation, coming from the other sound-alternating factors in keyboard-world] ... what is the deepest switch in your opinion? Because after all, the question is legit nevertheless! Don't get me wrong, it's a nice and short version of the 'Keybored-Video' anyway! :)
That’s a secret that every keyboard guru wants to keep hidden. They know what the thockiest switch is, but they tell you that ‘thock’ doesn’t even exist and that you have to do more ‘thinking’ instead of ‘thocking’. If you find out let me know. I’ll continue my endless research as well.
If you want the real answer, It's OG Ink Blacks. Overshadowed nowadays by the Oil Kings, and the 1000th JWK recolor, it still holds the title for being the deepest sounding stock switch. Most of the people I know in the hobby swear by the OG Ink Blacks. They're basically the Holy Pandas of linear switches.
@@J7T800 No the actual deepest sounding switch is the boba u4t and can be seen in the brendan b keyboard sound test. czcams.com/video/oKW0DgQKJHA/video.html As for why, no one knows since the housing material is proprietary and people just label it as boba housing.
It’s literally a t shirt modded tofu, also cream sodas are creampaca level deepness. The cream sodas use a Pom stem similar to the one of khail reds while the u4t uses one with a much thicker stem. The boba housing has also been used in multiple of attempts for the worlds deepest keyboard, meaning that it’s reputation is quite large and no matter what you say the u4t is still respected by almost all members of the community as the deepest switch to ever exist. Heck, I could ask Punkshoo himself and he would probably agree with me.
That is a really good point! The KB case profile/size & material. (And whether you mod it: forcebreak, killmat, tape mod, wtvr) The material of the switch plate. Even the keycap profile and material. All those things will have an impact on how the switch sounds, but in different ways. The case act as the resonance box on a guitar. Then the switch plate depending on the material used, will accentuate certain sounds of the switch. Aluminum will tend to be good if you like higher frequency sounds. Whereas something like PC will tend to resonate lower frequency sounds. Keycaps seems to have to do with their size. So Cherry vs SA. This is getting into subjective territory. But I found that the taller the keycap the deeper the sound, it also tends to emphasize popping. One thing is for sure. Unless you are listening to as ound test where the person lists all the materials (or at least a keyboard name you can look up to confirm the parts) it's not necesiarlly going to sound the same on your keyboard. Also whether or not you lube the switch yourself. Depending on the quality of the factory lube. It can also change the sound profile rather significantly in cases where there is on, or bad factory lube. Make sure you check whether you are listening to stock or hand lubed switches.
plastic case = thocky. i think enthusiasts that really want to chase that sound are in luck because the thockiest cases i’ve seen & heard are ALL in the budget range. higher priced keebs w/ all aluminum casing will sound higher pitch no matter what you do
Yes you can modify any keycap switch and board to sound amazing and I’m going to be doing a crazy mod that’s never been done before when I build my box jade keyboard.
Put as much blu tack as I could fit inside the case keycaps and top frame (it has really good sound deepening properties), and modded a jade switch on the esc key to have a tactile bump 4x stronger than stock just for a laugh. But it is satisfying to press.
okay so but what is the thockiest switches? people know that keyboards influence the sound of the switch but there are switches are thockier than others like a c3 tangerine vs aqua kings v3.
switches with a pom housing and a long pole stem will give you a deeper sound, try filming and lubing switches with 205g0 which is ideal for a deep sound
true except for the long pole part. that is not necessarily something that will produce a deeper sounding switch, often times it creates a bigger clack than you'd think.
I agree with the statement that keyboard sound is the combination of multiple variables, but if i asked "what is the thockiest switch that's known to you", then this answer presented in the video is like "I don't know".
because how would i know? when this video came out a few years ago, is the "thockiest" switch i could've said at the time still the deepest switch on the market? probably not. and with no clear decibel/frequency testing across every switch in existence, how can anyone really say which is the deepest? i mean i could sit here and tell you to get boba u4t or bobagums, but you couldve got that answer by googling...
@@coleydotmp4 yeah I googled, and your content popped up, guess google needs to be better than that. Relax, why so worked up. If you don’t know, you don’t know, no biggy ok? Peace.
@@kyle1152Not worked up at all, you're judging my tone via youtube comment and assuming the worst isnt a good idea. if you wound up on a youtube short from googling, and not, say, a recent reddit thread, a theramin goat review, or actual switch reviews, then i think you're in the wrong place.
This didn’t answer my question tho, I’m trying to min max this so I need to know the least clacky switch, to pair with the right membrane and and right case material and foam
so why didnt you give the list of componets each keyboard had to make it sound like that since you did such a good job explaining that deiffrent keebs have diffrent sound signatures regardless of just switch
***pinning this since everyone who comments misses the point*** Like I say in the short, obviously the pitch of your switch will influence the sound. but it's on such a micro level in comparison to everything else in a keyboard. The case, keycap profile/material, plate, mods, acoustics all have a significantly bigger influence on sound, as shown in the video. I could put the thockiest switch i own into that bakeneko, and my kbd67lite with the clackiest switch i own would still sound thockier. Personally, I would look for a switch that has the best specs and reviews (smoothness, stem wobble, quality of spring, build quality) instead of searching for the "thocciest switch". lets be real, the thockiest switch is probably Topre. If all you care about is pitch, then buy a fully plastic topre board and call it a day.
Lets say the internet told you that gateron Black Inks are the deepest thocciest switch. Well, you buy them, put them in your board, but... they're too heavy of a spring for you and you hate typing on your board, oh and they're also scratchy asf. Does sound really matter if the keyboard doesnt feel good to type on? You're better off searching for a switch you'lll actually like in terms of the feel over the sound.
Hope that helps everyone looking for a switch. stem wobble, spring quality (lack of crunch), leaf ping/spring ping, smoothness are all things you should worry about more, in my opinion.
It is NOT a micro level with all switches is it though. I have some Bulbasar for example (PC top/base housing POM stem) that are far far deeper than every other switch I have, like the pitch has been down shifted. This is not subtle it is a HUGE difference.
Yes you can adjust the sound by what/how you build the board but a long pole short travel switch will be always be far louder than a more "normal" switch in the same board.
I get what you are saying but think you downplay the effect the switch can have, sorry :)
hi could you send me the link for that storage box where did you buy it ? regards
lol yea in a hobby of MICRO differences this is such a bad take. People want to know what the deepest sounding switch is so they can weigh that properly over the other properties of the switch. Not to mention modders. Sure the number one deepest switch might be a bit heavy, but could you do a spring swap and keep some of those sound benefits while getting a better spring? Could you do a better lube job and get rid of some of the rattle? These other factors can be worked on.
“What’s the thocciest switch?” *laughs in membrane*
thats just mushy
@@ccqpl how?
@@stringtai do you not know the difference between mushy and thock?
Bro my membrane keyboard thocks, every membrane keyboard is different
@@ccqpl yes but I’m just saying mushy>>
So maybe a better question would be, "What switch will CONTRIBUTE to making the thocciest keyboard?"
eplison switch
Oil kings
foam
u dont need switches u just need foam
This same youtuber lubed Gateron CJs and the sound was incredibly deep.
Great quick answer!
Thank you!
Glad to see you like them! Much love from Elboard ^_^
They are fantastic, review in the next day or so!
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@@dizzydizzydizzydizzy we just fixed it! thank you for your patronage! We were in the middle of a big move, I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
I get that, but as a component, there has to be switches that add a deep thock at the level of switches in the chain.
There are, this video is just wrong and trying to deflect that switches sound different and DO contribute to the sound of the board.
Get a switch with PC top/bottom and that will make even a Milky Yellow Pro feel like a very clacky high pitch switch.
@@WarrenLeggatt the softer the housing material the deeper the sound?
@@fansmx4more like, the denser they are the higher their pitch is, and you can find their density using Google, for example are the plates of boards, the higher they weigh and the denser they are, the more higher they're pitch goes, there's a video regarding this with keyboard, better watch that for more info!
I feel like they'd probably know that if they're asking, it's still helpful to know which switch produces a deep sound though.
I need that organiser/drawer!
Where can I get that switch storage it looks so clean
Just a normal storage boxes, that she used for switches.
Nicely demonstrated!
What is the deepest switch if you put them all in the same keyboard with the same mods?
It’s never a good idea to have music when you’re doing a sound test…
case material, plate material, dampening, hollowness, keycap thickness, keycap material and pcb all make a difference in sound
exactly
@kediw doesn't matter nearly as much as the stuff the commenter above listed... but if i had to say THOCKIEST, maybe boba LT for linear, and idk bobas for tactile? but i'd argue that the feel is much more important. I personally can't stand how Bobas feel, so i'd recommend getting a switch tester kit from like canonkeys or something to help you decide. seriously, DO NOT pick by sound. if you dont like typing feel, you wont like the board you build.
even the desk mat is a factor
I was super surprised by the very distinct difference in sound, most of the time it’s slightly but you can definitely tell in this video
Ok, but for the people who actually don't need to be educated in logical thinking [and can ignore the other filters from the equation, coming from the other sound-alternating factors in keyboard-world] ... what is the deepest switch in your opinion? Because after all, the question is legit nevertheless! Don't get me wrong, it's a nice and short version of the 'Keybored-Video' anyway! :)
That’s a secret that every keyboard guru wants to keep hidden. They know what the thockiest switch is, but they tell you that ‘thock’ doesn’t even exist and that you have to do more ‘thinking’ instead of ‘thocking’. If you find out let me know. I’ll continue my endless research as well.
If you want the real answer, It's OG Ink Blacks. Overshadowed nowadays by the Oil Kings, and the 1000th JWK recolor, it still holds the title for being the deepest sounding stock switch. Most of the people I know in the hobby swear by the OG Ink Blacks. They're basically the Holy Pandas of linear switches.
@@J7T800 No the actual deepest sounding switch is the boba u4t and can be seen in the brendan b keyboard sound test. czcams.com/video/oKW0DgQKJHA/video.html
As for why, no one knows since the housing material is proprietary and people just label it as boba housing.
It’s literally a t shirt modded tofu, also cream sodas are creampaca level deepness. The cream sodas use a Pom stem similar to the one of khail reds while the u4t uses one with a much thicker stem. The boba housing has also been used in multiple of attempts for the worlds deepest keyboard, meaning that it’s reputation is quite large and no matter what you say the u4t is still respected by almost all members of the community as the deepest switch to ever exist. Heck, I could ask Punkshoo himself and he would probably agree with me.
What organizer shelves are those?
This needs to be addressed more lol People don’t understand that there’s so much more that goes into the sound of a keyboard
Gateron north poles are the deepest sounding linears ive seen
That switch storage solution is awesome, may I ask where you got it?
The container store! www.containerstore.com/s/craft-hobby/stackable-craft-organizer-drawers/1d?productId=11008488
Yooo where did you get the storage containers that you have the switches stored in? I need a link please!
Yes, and which one contributes more towards thocky?
You can compare them on the same plate with the same keycaps and all.
Right? Just because there's more parts to a thoccy keyboard doesn't mean there isn't a thocciest switch lol
Nylon, Long Pull, Lube only Stem, No Foam, Alu Plate/Case boom high pitch clack, very hard
Where did you get that switch storage? I love the way you can store all your switches in a shelf like look
nice video!! this reminds of a video where some youtuber interviewed other keeb memebers asking what “thocc” means
for some reason i cant seem to find that video :(
Good job, explaining this. Now not everyone will ask you that!
You say that, but this question will be asked till the end of time
@@coleydotmp4 You right, but aiiii, when u get famous only 5 out of 6 people will be asking
@@coleydotmp4 oh yess .... I'm still gonna search for the thocciest switches, after watching this short....😂😂😂
@@tokyo_it_is focus on making sure u pick the thockiest board first, friend. trust me. been doing this a while.
@@coleydotmp4 okeyy.... I trust you 😉😄
the switchs in the second board sounds like its puring
That is a really good point!
The KB case profile/size & material. (And whether you mod it: forcebreak, killmat, tape mod, wtvr)
The material of the switch plate.
Even the keycap profile and material.
All those things will have an impact on how the switch sounds, but in different ways.
The case act as the resonance box on a guitar.
Then the switch plate depending on the material used, will accentuate certain sounds of the switch. Aluminum will tend to be good if you like higher frequency sounds. Whereas something like PC will tend to resonate lower frequency sounds.
Keycaps seems to have to do with their size. So Cherry vs SA. This is getting into subjective territory. But I found that the taller the keycap the deeper the sound, it also tends to emphasize popping.
One thing is for sure. Unless you are listening to as ound test where the person lists all the materials (or at least a keyboard name you can look up to confirm the parts) it's not necesiarlly going to sound the same on your keyboard.
Also whether or not you lube the switch yourself. Depending on the quality of the factory lube. It can also change the sound profile rather significantly in cases where there is on, or bad factory lube. Make sure you check whether you are listening to stock or hand lubed switches.
plastic case = thocky. i think enthusiasts that really want to chase that sound are in luck because the thockiest cases i’ve seen & heard are ALL in the budget range. higher priced keebs w/ all aluminum casing will sound higher pitch no matter what you do
true, I only realized it when I got both aluminum and plastic case
While it does depend on the switch, I think that it is more influenced on other factors like case, foam and some keycap types.
i like your switch container, do you have a link for that container to share?
Yes you're right but at the same time it also depends on the materials the switch is made out of.
Foam and tape are really good mods
I love the setup.. jealous of your boards..but whered you get those storages for your switches?
The container store! its actually one of the only products from them that i feel is reasonably priced too - i think it was only $20
Great explanation. Could not have said it better!
Hi, may I get the link to where you can find your switches storage cabinet?
Yes you can modify any keycap switch and board to sound amazing and I’m going to be doing a crazy mod that’s never been done before when I build my box jade keyboard.
What mod?
Put as much blu tack as I could fit inside the case keycaps and top frame (it has really good sound deepening properties), and modded a jade switch on the esc key to have a tactile bump 4x stronger than stock just for a laugh. But it is satisfying to press.
those sound more like clack, but you're right on it depends on the keyboard material as well.
okay so but what is the thockiest switches? people know that keyboards influence the sound of the switch but there are switches are thockier than others like a c3 tangerine vs aqua kings v3.
I love milky switches
What are you using to store all your switches? That white box thing? I need one haha
The softer the housing material the deeper, heavier keycaps too
Would you mind linking the switches? They have such a funny name
your switch collection is like my sisters toy collection
Do you have Matcha Lattes in one of those drawers? (Those are my faves)
Excuse me, may I ask where you got your switch storage at? I love it.
container store!
Gateron Green switches are the ultimate choice!! 😊
Imo keycaps matter most for sound
can we get a link for the storage unit you put your switches into?
Wich keycard did you use for your kdb65
switches with a pom housing and a long pole stem will give you a deeper sound, try filming and lubing switches with 205g0 which is ideal for a deep sound
true except for the long pole part. that is not necessarily something that will produce a deeper sounding switch, often times it creates a bigger clack than you'd think.
@@coleydotmp4 oh
Can I buy you’re keyboards they look very cool and sound very good
thank god someone finally someone said this
Capitalize the Lord’s name and don’t take his name in vain
the gateron pro browns are super thocky especially with a foam mod or keyboard mat
The sound on the second keyboard sounds like its purring bro 😭😭
I always have to explain this to my friends that start out in the hobby. Now I can just show them this short :)
imma be honest i kinda came here looking for the answer even tho I knew this lmao
People may ask what the thocckiest switch is, but my question is what is that *super cool* switch storage you have? I'd love to know where to buy it!
Bros got the speed switches 🥱
I agree with the statement that keyboard sound is the combination of multiple variables, but if i asked "what is the thockiest switch that's known to you", then this answer presented in the video is like "I don't know".
because how would i know? when this video came out a few years ago, is the "thockiest" switch i could've said at the time still the deepest switch on the market? probably not. and with no clear decibel/frequency testing across every switch in existence, how can anyone really say which is the deepest? i mean i could sit here and tell you to get boba u4t or bobagums, but you couldve got that answer by googling...
@@coleydotmp4 yeah I googled, and your content popped up, guess google needs to be better than that. Relax, why so worked up. If you don’t know, you don’t know, no biggy ok? Peace.
@@kyle1152Not worked up at all, you're judging my tone via youtube comment and assuming the worst isnt a good idea. if you wound up on a youtube short from googling, and not, say, a recent reddit thread, a theramin goat review, or actual switch reviews, then i think you're in the wrong place.
Caps and mods also play a massive role
Please put a link to the drawers you put your switches in please 🙏 🙏🙏🙏☺️
Were did you buy the thing you store your switches in??
I need one too
Can you give me the where to buy the switch box like you in this video? Thanks!
did you lube the switches yourself?
*laughs in integrated dome and slider*
valid
I’m more curious where you got the drawers you store the switches in I need something like that!
Container store! it was only $20ish which is pretty cheap for them lmao. i have a tiktok about it but i forgot exactly what it's called.
Second one sounds like my cat purrrrrrrrrrrring
god the switches looked huge at first
It’s the holy panda😊
Are the cyan switches loud?, because im looking forward to buy a keyboard with a cyan switch
Can you see what would sound good in a magegee sky 68 plz🙏
Hi there, What are those keycaps on your kbd67? Especially those orange ones?! They look so clean!
the white ones look like geekark BoW, I have those on mine too
kbd67lite seems to have gmk 8008 or gmk8008 clones, hard to tell without seeing the full set
This didn’t answer my question tho, I’m trying to min max this so I need to know the least clacky switch, to pair with the right membrane and and right case material and foam
membrane?
Sounds like an overlubed linear
What I really want to ask you is... where did you get your switch storage container! :)
Mmm the KBD sounds like a cat purring. I could listen to that forever.
What switch is in the bottom right corner ? It’s two toned clear top with purple bottom? ?
so why didnt you give the list of componets each keyboard had to make it sound like that since you did such a good job explaining that deiffrent keebs have diffrent sound signatures regardless of just switch
because this is a youtube short and i don't have time for that lmao. watch my full length vids for more in depth info on keyboards
because the video is created by a woman. They never get to the point.
I need that switch storage box so hard. 🤘🏻
Hey, what are u using to record keyboard typing sound? thanks.
what is the name of this gateron? and the bottom out is heavy? thank you
This video answered a completely different question than it said it would. I just want to know what the thockiest switch is for cryin out loud.
Just put pe foam in a keyboard and it doesn't matter which switch you choose it all sound the same except for clicky switch ofc😂
sounds like a purring cat
Cheap switches for thoky are the akko cs marcha green
"Whats the thockiest switch" laughs in buckling springs.
Sounds like cats purring
where did you buy you switch container?
just press the button
What switches were the blue and purple in the drawer?
damn, actually i need that switch container
"Gateron verbelian burts"
Sorry I'm russian
Different materials and different mounting systems as well
How much u is the switches? And where can you find them?
Where did you get those containers
Sounds like purring
It sounds like a cat purring
what is the highest quality switch, a very stable and very heavy tactile switch
Remove music when doing Sound test lol
God this is such an old video, but I’m still gonna ask, what is and or where can I get that container drawer setup you have for the switches
i think ikea but if its not from there, there is a wall thing on what you can attach boxes like those