How I went from 10 to 130 WPM in 3 months
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- I used an alternate keyboard layout for 3 months and got pretty good. Was it worth learning?
Check out my Patreon if you wanna support my content! / pinguefy
I'm gonna try to focus on creating more CZcams content now.
I'll still be streaming 3 times a week at / pinguefy
Thanks to the people in my Discord that supported me and raced me in typeracer! / discord
also, I will say that if you are interested in learning Workman, you should probably learn Colemak mod DH instead, because it accomplishes a very similar goal with fewer drawbacks.
big thanks to Sephy for being a great motivator to improve: / sephyrate
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:44 QWERTY's origins
1:32 The first alternative to QWERTY
2:33 What layout do I choose?
3:39 How do you get better at typing?
4:55 How I learned a new layout
6:39 Switching between layouts
8:16 A rival appears...
9:33 How I break through my plateaus
10:36 REDEMPTION ARC
12:09 Conclusion: Should you learn an alternate layout?
14:20 The Backwards Brain Bicycle
15:12 Can I still type with QWERTY?
18:34 Can you maintain multiple keyboard layouts?
20:08 shameless self-promotion
SmarterEveryDay's Backwards Brain Bicycle: • The Backwards Brain Bi...
Typists in this video:
Kathy/Florentine
Viper (colemak)
john (dvorak - / @nothisisjohn )
chakk
Sean Wrona
Jashe Poon
Music:
Shiro Sagisu - A-09, Mellow Slow-Jam
Baguettes Ensemble - Staff Notation to Last Forever
Hara Noda - Pyramid
Jonah Aardekker - Waltz for Maybe
Gitaroo Man OST - The Legendary Theme
Magnus Ringblom Quartet - If I'm Not Mistaken
Hara Noda - Lights Ahead
Bladverk Band - Constellations
Deadly Premonition OST - Greenvale
Machikado-Mapoze - 弦楽四重奏曲「にとり」 ニ短調 第3楽章 「哀しみの逆さま河童」
Shiro Sagisu - The Image of Black Me
Jonah Aardekker - Theme for Juno
Ennio Mano - Yours
Tokyo Active NEETs - 極楽は儚き人間の為に
Jonah Aardekker - And Suddenly There Was Love
Jonah Aardekker - North of the Heart
Ennio Mano - Les Pipos
Moonlight Tracks OST - Thank You Fragile Dreams
More Than Just a Kiss - Nocturnal Spirits
Eurystomus - もしも貴女が望むなら - Hry
*I'm thinking about picking up Workman, should I?*
- If you are interested in picking up Workman, I'd recommend you go for Colemak Mod DH instead: it accomplishes the same thing with fewer drawbacks.
*Is there anything else I can do to get faster at typing?*
- The typist in the video, Jashe, has an incredibly detailed writeup on improving typing speed: docs.google.com/document/d/1h-46EqD6_llPoQjv_vmtp_UKypBi4ZIV7S4sM7vWnV4/edit
*How do I get/change to new layouts?*
- Windows has built in support for alternate layouts. Once they are installed, you can cycle between your installed layouts using the hotkey: WinKey + Spacebar. Dvorak simply needs to be enabled in the Language and Input menu. Workman and Colemak have a download that can be installed, and more obscure layouts like Colemak mod DH require the use of a program called the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator. If it says it's been successfully installed but you still cannot switch to it, try restarting your PC.
*Which keyboards did you use in the video?*
- At the start of the video: HHKB Tofu with SA Ice Cap and Turquoise Tealios
- The rest of the video: HHKB Pro 2 with 3 pink keycaps from KBDFans
*What typing sites did you use in this video?*
- I played almost exclusively play.typeracer.com/ to improve.
- www.keybr.com/
- 10fastfingers.com/
- monkey-type.com/
*Do you use Workman on your phone?*
- No, I guess the muscle memory is separate because I never had any issues typing with QWERTY on my phone. I can even type with Swipe typing without looking at the keyboard despite my inability to use it on a normal keyboard.
I'll update this with any FAQs people have, but for now, thanks for the support
Hey @pinguefy (completely unrelated topic) can we expect to see a hyperscape video or stream
@@not.for_her3226 probably not video, but stream eventually
Pinguefy ok good to know
What was ur philosophy and thought process when looking for the layout for u
@@extinctraptor9688 tbh I do regret picking workman, but it's never too late to learn another layout. I found myself slowing down a lot in QWERTY when I had to stretch for the center rows, so I thought it would be a lot more comfortable if most of the movement I had to do was vertical.
Workman has great stats on paper, but its biggest downfall is that it has a lot of common key combos that use the same finger twice in a row, which is horrid for speed. OP/PO is the main one, which makes typing words like "people" very difficult.
"do you use WASD?"
"Nah I just DASH"
I use VUIA
@@mr_magictwofive what layout do you use?
five year old me: I uSe ArrOWs keyx
Since I have big hands I use ZRFE
@@ShmeekyDeeky_ i expect people with big hands would be more into EADG
I can’t stop thinking about this guy as a shounen anime protagonist.
Now I really need a really intense Typing anime. There is already a Ping Pong anime so why not typing?
Obama bin Laden
Rival: “You can’t beat me! I have a higher word per minute rating!”
Protagonist: “I’ve changed since we first met, my WPM is over two hundred!”
lol
Ok but wtf is the diference between shonen and shounen ?
@@obamabinladen9193 I mean there isn't one that I know but I know one where they frequently mention APM
Step 1: Click a button to randomize your layout.
Step 2: Learn your new layout until you get +100 WPM
Step 3: Do Step 1 and Step 2 until you learned every layout possible.
Step 4: You can now call yourself the god of keyboards.
Step 5: Ascend beyond keyboards and learn Steno
Step 6: „Alexa, please take a note…“
Step 7: „Hey google, read my brain“
Sooo true.
Step 8: realize theres more keys than in just the english keyboard
I started learning Dvorak at a time when I couldn't even touch type qwerty. Now I daily drive dvorak and it is awesome! I felt that the biggest advantage to those "better" keyboard layouts are not that they enable me to type faster, but it actually relieves a lot of stress on your wrist. When typing in qwerty, our hands often do not rest in the natural position, but tilted one way, which is really not comfortable over a long time.
Depends on you but I find the QWERTY layout more comfortable, I like moving my fingers more.
Wow! I also learned Dvorak when I couldn't touch type on qwerty. I was always bad at typing so I wanted to do an experiment: if I manage to touch type for the first time with a totally different layout. I'm no programmer, I'm just passionate of different ways to write. I'm not fast but Dvorak is the first and only layout I can do touch typing.
@@ItsSchwifty Same. qwerty is much better if you like "rolling" your fingers since dvorak makes you alternate hands on alot of words. Just not as satisfying imo.
It's all jingle bells until you have to type on a different keyboard
I use qwerty at around a hundred wpm and colemak at around 60 but it's a pain in the ass when you wanna use colemak and have to search for a stupid setup just to use it
At lease dvorak is in windows but even that needs me to go into settings lmao
Also typing club supremacy
Qwerty: Use W A S D to move.
Colemak: WARS
Workman: DASH
Me: haha lol
marek eben that actually makes sense maybe games were made for this one
French be like
Uhhh, i'm gonna fail the exam
Their exam :
ZQSD
Hotel: Trivago
It’s all fun and games until you have to type on someone else’s keyboard.
I can touch type colemak, and I do a variation of 6 finger hunt and peck on qwerty. I can easily use both although colemak is 80-90 wpmish and qwerty at 45 wpm
@Thomas Leroux-Lévis is what really important
7 days in, I can now have speeds of 50wpm in colemak and was able to maintain my 110 wpm in qwerty. You just have to practice doing both everyday :)
Poltergeist muscle memory might be a little disturbed at times.
@@Anon.G Hunt and peck at 45wpn is still awesome.
It would be an interesting project to see large classes of people be taught (perhaps from an early age) an alternate layout like workman and have the process analysed. Perhaps we can move QWERTY to the alternative layout list?
If only I can positionally map the shortcut keys back to where they were. I am willing to give Dvorak a try if I can use it in vim only in insert mode
this is my 2nd time watching the video and this time I'm realizing how something so mechanical as learning a new keyboard layout can turn out to be a emotional and motivational video to me. I hope you read this Pingu.
Today I learned that there's a whole community about typing
Yeah there's also a sneaker/shoe community. Humans are strangr
@@tyhma1563 shoes are actually normal, you are strange
@@Ghosty716 yeah i know shoes are normal, i use shoes everyday, but a SHOE COMMUNITY like a community of shoe enthusiasts
retu cause shoes look nice. These alternate keyboards are weird
@@tyhma1563 there is also a community for armpit, im glad im not there
Next video: how I went from homeless to obama in 4 days.
😂😂 *becomes obama*
@@TheThreatenedSwan nah trump is miles worse
That’s nice, no Trump lol
Who is Obama lol
Alex F. Not sure, probably an anime character
Thank you man ,you're a good story teller ,i enjoyed every bit of the video , thank you.
Thank you for making this video. Very interesting to follow the learning curve. One really has to commit and realize it takes many hours of practice. This is true for many new things. I have recently realized that I have enough interests and won't get into another, because it will take time away from things I already love.
His voice is weirdly relaxing.
tbh it just makes me really sleepy and i dont like that because his content is really hard to come by.
Hell yeah
Yea
And the jazz in the background enhances it
The jazz music really adds on to the relaxation, if it was heavy metal with his voice you wouldn’t really get a relaxed feeling.
Did you win the race?
Ping: Yes
What did it cost?
Ping: Qwerty
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This video is very inspirational, it got me into trying colemak and I can't stop practicing, I am still learning it but this video helped keep me motivated to know that the hard work will be worth it in the end.
How did it go?
@@DIFY Got to about 120wpm on Colemak, and had to switch back to qwerty due to school reasons, because I can't get Colemak on the school computers for 2 reasons.
1. it won't let you download anything
2. because it's not a default layout on windows.
I wish I could continue but I really need to be able to type fast for essays and such. I can still briefly remember how to type on Colemak with a second or two of thought.
Just randomly got this in my recommended about a year after first watching it and this inspired me to learn workman. Just want to thank you for making this video and introducing me to the world of alternate keyboard layouts
I just realized that since I never learned the “right” way of typing, I could easily get the same wpm I usually get on any other format, as I am still in the stage where I need to look at the keyboard to see where the letters were. I’m too powerful.
How sway do u have da answers
I got 70-90wpm depending on text from 2 fingers min and 4 max. I started learning touch typing it was difficult at start since I wasn't used to using fingers I never used before. But after a week I started reaching 50-60 wpm easily.
I'm planning on practicing till I can easily hit 100+ wpm
I can do 70-85wpm with 2 fingers and pinky for shift
lol ik exactly where all the keys are yet i still look a the keyboard-
I use 8-10 fingers i dont even know but i get around 95 wpm
Me who has 8 words a minute with qwerty and 50% accuracy: Hmm interesting
Update over 1 year later : this was when I got my first phone and wasn't familiar with the layout or letters, my family doesn't allow phones till 15 and I have used a computer before this but it was in a different language and different layout, I have gotten much better at typing since then.
Learn muscle memory by typing stuff without looking at your keyboard. Once you get that down, start playing nitrotype. It's a web game, and I got way better at typing when I started.
@@thedemotivationalspeaker3090 well am deciding if I want to switch or not
@@misusaki8980 You might want to switch, but life outside of your own home (typing at libraries, schools, ect.) would be a lot harder. I'd say learn both decently well or stick with Querty.
@@thedemotivationalspeaker3090 then I would just have to memorize the keyboard layout
I have 25 wpm and 92% accuracy on qwerty
excellent and Inspiring video on the obsession of typing and constantly breaking yourself in order to build yourself up. Glad I found it. Very glad you made it.
Sick video brother!
motivation at its maximum splendor! thanks!
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10000 keyboard layouts once, but i fear the man who has practiced one keyboard layout 10000 times"
-Bruce Lee (paraphrased)
Hahaha nice one
BRYAN HAO RAN NG How does photographic memory play any part in this? Sure you can remember where the keys are as a picture in your head, but that doesn’t translate to you being able to execute a combination of keys precisely and accurately.
Well I have done over 15 million keystrokes and as a fourth grader I can type up to 110 wpm and average 90 lol so does tha5 mean I’ve practiced it 10000 times
@@subscheme nobody cares :/
@@subscheme and you've typed "over 15 million keystrokes" and you can't type words properly? oof that's rough man
Long story short, he became a Discord moderator.
He hasn’t practiced meme banning in general
kitten banging
@@balloon3503 the fk is kitten banging, sounds like 20 years in prison.
@@Wtfinc You're technically not wrong
@@Wtfinc not wrong at all!!!!!!!
Thank You for sharing your knowledge and personal experiences. I may never be as fast as you, but you have given me the understanding that I needed. Honestly, I appreciate your thoroughness.😁
This is really well explained!
“20 minutes of focus practice is so much more productive than an hour of aimless practice” awesome quote
Wow... I saw this comment at the same time he's saying this quote 😃
I feel attacked but it’s facts
Active versus passive learning
It's the same with other fields. Focus workout versus an hour of lazy workout. It applies to so much
So accuracy over speed?
Alternatively: How I went from 140 WPM to 1.2 WPM in 7 seconds
I love everything about this comment, the profile picture and the simple but great joke.
F
This was a pretty great video. Really enjoyed watching it
people with multiple consoles with different controller layouts notice that after a while its less difficult to adjust and that after even longer you can notice that you don't even have any turnaround times when picking up different controllers. This should also be able to be replicated onto keyboards so if you switch enough between them after a period of time you may notice that you adapt to the layouts (you already know, switching from another layout) really fast
It'd really help if you have separate keyboards for each layout
"I had to slow down to go faster"
That's honestly the greatest advice I've heard.
This.
This is easily applied everywhere.
That doesn't make any sense tho.
You should read the Bible. Full of vague quotes you can interpret anyway you like.
Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Start cubing, you'll see it there too.
‘I had to slow down to go faster’
This feels inspirational.
Is it?
What part in the video was that?
It is
@@mikafizz1022 the chapter about breaking through plateau. The line is around 9:55
This is common knowledge for musicians.
at 8:18 the track playing was mesmerizing. Shiro Sagisu, hi work is astonishing.
"Why do we use QWERTY keyboard?"
Me: KEYBOARD IS KEYBOARD
Y'know... I kinda like how inefficient QWERTY is. It's really satisfying to just let my hands fly all over the keyboard and not miss a single letter. When I'm having long conversations over the internet it's not uncommon for me to completely forget that I'm typing at all. My wpm isn't super high or anything but I just enjoy the controlled chaos of typing in QWERTY.
You said inefficient but you talked about how efficient is QWERTY
@@Namerco Everything can be "efficient" for you if you learn it. Time efficiency is a different story.
@@netts2315 ohhhhhhh
@@netts2315 this comment now makes sense
This might be the reason behind QWERTY - since typewriter keys are much harder to please in order to register keystroke, layout was randomized as much as possible to let every finger roughly equal workload to avoid injuries as much as possible.
This really motivated me to continue learning Dvorak!
this is such a good video i have rewatched it like 7 times already, great job man
Came for the typing
Stayed for the character development and life lessons
“Where J?”
Proceeds to type every other key that isn’t j
This is exactly like swapping from controller to mouse and keyboard. I feel the grind man
very inspiring thank you
Me : laying in bed watching this.
Also me : gets up at 4am to start practicing typing
when this video was released it was 5am in the Summer. So I watched it, and actually started to fricking type in 5am, so, same!
Same
literally same, the time was impecable
what are the odds?
Me
i can’t imagine switching to another keyboard. i have a hard enough time with QWERTY as it is.
If you are having trouble with QWERTY then I especially recommend alternate layouts. That's what I did, it was much easier to learn, because alternate layouts are easier to learn and also because there was no reference, and I now have no risk of looking at the keys ever again.
You have trouble with QWERTY? Then your should be perfectly able to switch to an alternate layout.
@@nilstrieb how do u switch the layouts on win 10? cuz if u have to type o and p with my pinky one more time ..
@@sadisticgirl_ o with your pinky? I don't know how to do it, just google it
Never did I expect to hear Gitaroo Man music in a video essay about keyboard layouts, but I'm absolutely here for it
Very inspired. I also am a very fast typist (130 wpm) and I also decided to switch layouts. Currently 2 months into colemak around 80wpm average and improving pretty fast maybe 5 wpm a week. 15k races on nitro type and 123 hrs on monkeytype
This guy: *Gets 130 wpm in 3 months with a new layout.*
Me: *Still at 56 wpm with QWERTY.*
😂 haha
you need deliberate practice
@@rafirafchaines8316 Now, I can type like 60-69. But, that is not also still perfect. Thanks for your suggestion.
@@noumuinui4405 I’m in and my highest was 50. Trying to get to 60 or 70
Edit: I hid my age so that’s why this doesn’t make sense
@@wbaba34 You have beaten the average typing speed of almost anyone in this age.
my friend made his own layout and i thought it was really impressive. that was until i found out
he’s been using it for 6 months and gets 20 WPM.
About a year and a half ago, this video inspired me to learn workman. I've been typing in it since then and I stopped practicing after getting to about 130 wpm. It took me a bit longer than in this video but I also don't think I practiced as much. The main issue I've had with it is compatibility across various platforms and at other people's computers. Every time I start a new game I have to rebind everything before even playing the tutorial, or sometimes if the game doesn't allow it I have to play the tutorial without changing my keybinds. Chromebooks do natively support workman so I can use it on those pretty easily, and it's not hard to setup if I have to use someone else's pc for an extended period of time. I would say it's been worth it for me and I have a lot of fun with it. If you're considering switching, I would suggest trying it for a week and seeing if you enjoy the challenge of it, as the practicality isn't really there.
holy shit, nice
Wow, such an amazing CZcamsr ― I didn't was interested by the topic as much but was bored and clicked in my suggestion (an odd out-of-topic suggestion)... now I am subscribed (I do not even know the topic of his channel yet but that video was so calming and he is so charming I feel like a groupie already)...
Everyone gangsta till the Minecraft tutorial says "move with ABCD keys"
hjkl
Todah poop is funny
I wrote this blindly
@@justsomepandawithinternet hmm
@@justsomepandawithinternet I have not located the funny
@@RealValkor
You have wasted your time it's not supposed to be funny
Someone: why do we use this keyboard layout
Gamers: Shut up wasd
😂😂
*wasd*
Lol
*W A S D*
frrr
I love this video so much I have no clue who you are but this is honestly one of my favorite videos
Been using workman for a couple years. Probably not the fastest layout, but it's very ergonomic and useful for typing in other languages that use the Roman Alphabet if it is modified with layers. I recommend, though some might prefer Colemak, Halmak, or the like.
Your vids are very high quality,
But there’s a very low quantity
yup, i'm trying to work on that haha
quality over quantity
Quality, quantity, sane creator.
Pick 2
@@Pinguefy Do you still play Apex?
@@AZALONG1 sparingly.
The redemption part felt like a anime fight where the main character came back to take his revenge on the bad guy after hours of training and clapped him lmao
It's thanks to this video that I got super into speed typing
The first time I watched this my speed was around 80WPM, and now I can get around 110-115
Thanks for making this and getting me into this great hobby
Hey, this video was a banger when I first watched it. Now after a year, I have reached 100wpm average on typeracer on the workman layout. I used to top 60 when I used qwerty. Thank you for motivating me to doing this! Never really thought I could type as fast as I can currently.
damn bro, let's fucking go, it's been almost a year since this video came out and I'm still answering the comments under it lmfao, but also good job, love seeing people get extremely motivated and reach the goal they wanted just makes my heart warm, also pingu is dead (no but yeah, but no, but not active anywhere) so yeah, sorry for this crappy response from pingu from walmart xddddd
“Take a moment and look down to your keyboard”
Mobile users:
*Demonic screeching noices*
You know mobile have a keypad so it's basically the same...
@@TH-my3ps but for them it's easier to switch to anything. we have to physically buy the keyboard
Lol keyboard losers
I use my pee pee 😎
@@sonny3703 one of the most random yet quite and very precise comments. good stuff
Committing is definitely the most important part. When I decided to learn dvorak I thought I could still maintain qwerty, but it ruined me. I decided to commit and change all my keyboards to dvorak, even on my phone. I also rearranged the physical keys on my desktop keyboard. I found the phone keyboard actually made the biggest difference at first because it actually allowed me to see the locations of the keys, which helped me to commit it to memory. The fact that I didn't have a qwerty keyboard to fall back on was what got me through the initial grind. It was horrible at first, especially when I had to take notes during a class, but I learned to use shorter sentences and point form until my typing speed improved. I persisted because I had no choice and it was an amazing feeling when after a year I finally surpassed my old qwerty typing speed. Now it's been over four years since i've even touched a qwerty keyboard and I don't know if I could switch back even if I wanted to. I can't even remember where most of the keys are.
I switched to Dvorak on my main keyboard years ago, and haven't looked back. I also experienced having a lot of difficulty switching back to Qwerty at first, but after a while, using both layouts on different systems, it came back and I can type both layouts effectively. I do have faster typing speed on Dvorak than I've ever approached on Qwerty.
I have dyslexia and a.d.d.
I recently found your videos and they are super mellow and interesting. I don't think I have every truly learned the keyboard. I always have funky letter mix ups and moment where I have to check the keys.
I can go ultra instinct on my keyboard when im losing a game and being toxic.
same haha
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Am pickle
Same haha
Same
I can type out insults while pvping someone
The way he rolls out this story makes it feel like a drama anime
I almost cried...
maybe the true drama is the anime we made along the way
9:08 add some dramatic music and it's oscar winning
Can't wait for the next season
hey pinguefy, this is really inspiring, I've been putting off switching to workman for over three years, but after watching this, I think I'm ready to finally commit.
I did try colemak for some time...it was ok to pick up, but it never captivated me. When I tried workman, it felt more natural, but same as many, I was too addicted to qwerty.
I always knew it was gonna be epic journey, and so now, `sod it' (as we say here in the UK), here I go...thank you
- and thank you also for bringing typeracer to my attention, great fun way to learn/play typing!!
I ended up learning Dvorak over midterms in High School in 2014 or so. It wasn't smart at the time, but I got so much practice I ended up touch typing within two weeks (with tons of errors of course). I peaked about 8 months later, hitting around 70 wpm with minimal errors. Now I do 80 wpm steady, jumping up to 90 when copying text. To put it in perspective, I went from 30 wpm with QWERTY to 80-90 wpm with Dvorak, without really trying too much. The speed came with the efficiency of the layout.
I'm glad more attention is being brought to alternative keyboard layouts. I would note that Dvorak isn't as difficult as it looks. Sure, it looks foreign compared to QWERTY, but it's a very logical layout and will come naturally to you once you get a handle on where everything is. I'd recommend folks give it a shot before settling with another alternative.
I love this video it's so cozy
Me: **wants to press d**
**Looks up to screen**
**presses a**
When he was struggling to get the 120 WPM average and was so excited when he got it, and then got it everytime with no effort in the 1v1s, it was basically like getting Super Saiyan in Dragon Ball
I'm french so my keyboard is an AZERTY and I started using qwerty with my phone but never knew there was other lawouts! Your channel is so interesting ☺️
Thanks for the fantastic video. I just switched from QWERTY average ~135wpm to Colemak, and 3 days later am at 25 wpm. Feeling very demoviated but this video helped out:)
Any update on your progress?
Any update from you, dude?
I really hate how so many people are "We've always done it so why change it."
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it's because it's inconsiderate for those who work hard and memorize the qwerty format. i have a bad memory and i dont remember things easily. i have to memorize the qeety format in months. there are others who are still trying to memorize and may not able to adopt if things change. let's just understand each other's struggle
@@verosestudio it's not like a government is going to institute a forced changed to a new layout, so you will never be forced to learn one. The people saying this are dismissing the validity of new layouts with the argument "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," which would leave us in the stone age.
@@Pinguefy oh i get it. i also don't understand why others are denying new layouts but i do hope that qwerty layout wont be gone. thanks for letting me understand
@@Pinguefy that's not really a valid comparison
This guy is basically jack of all trades, but actually masters everything
A true generalist indeed
Isn’t it jack of all traits?
Joel Kawinski no it’s “Jack of all trades, master of none”
He‘s Asian
fuck my mind i read that as "jack off all trades" and got confused
I literally watched the whole thing, usually I’m a person with a short attention span and can’t watch any video for more than 5 minutes without switching. But this was so interesting to watch and well made.
stop watching TikTok
This kinda maks me think about my own journey with gaming. I was a console controller player for about 25 years and I got REALLY good on controller. About 3 years ago I switched exclusively to PC. It has been really difficult for me. I'm just now getting to a point that I'm happy with my skill and dexterity on the keyboard, but I still have such a long way to go before I'd consider myself to be on the same level I was on the controller. The hardest part is knowing what you want to do and just not having the dexterity or muscle memory in your fingers to execute. Especially when playing competitive games like I do, it has been so discouraging at times. And I've gone back to controller for some games and it's totally doable, but I definitely felt like an old man with it in my hands lol
Anyway I'm rambing, but this video really reminded me of my gaming journey so I'm encouraged by your story to keep pushing through and trying to improve every day! 😁
This was the weirdest video to appear in my recommended at 4 am. It was cool. I think the most admirable thing about this is the fact that you took the time to learn something knew, which seems like a lot of people don't like to do these days. I think I'll stick with QWERTY myself since I can't see myself ever switching, but I'd be interested to apply your enthusiasm into other areas of my life. Cool video, good luck with streaming and Patreon and CZcams itself.
new*
That "I had to slow down to get faster." hits kinda deep
I went through the same process, except I chose to design my own layout (though I agree workman isn't bad) - I switched to a columnar split keyboard at the same time, and made a layout optimised for that, for home row use (like you I don't consider it the home row if you have to twist sideways) and minimising bottom row and pinky use, repeated use of the same finger and allowed common shortcut keys to mostly be on the left hand side (so you can mouse while doing them).
I was never a particularly fast QWERTY typist (probably max 80-90 wpm), but I had a break from work and uni for a month, so decided to use that time to learn the new layout. It took about a month, with a similar process to you (learn locations, learn locations without having to think, get smoother and smoother flow). Played a lot of Epistory in this time, as well as a lot of web games, practice websites etc. I eventually got to about 100 wpm, but (as you very correctly point out) it wasn't worth the trouble for that amount of gain, which I almost certainly would have gained in QWERTY if I'd put the same effort towards it.
The real gain was comfort, smoothness, accuracy etc. - I think optimised layouts are much better for this than QWERTY.
Differently to you though (at least at the time of this video), I can still type in QWERTY quite fluently at near my old speed. I think this was probably more due to using regular keyboards with QWERTY and split columnar keyboards with my own layout - that really helped to separate out the two sets of muscle memory out for me. I've certainly never tried to type with different layouts on the same form factor keyboard, but I could see how it could be possible (but much harder - that Jashe guy is super impressive).
2:40 theres a modification of colemak called colemak-DH which basically moves the D and H keys to where v and k are on the keyboard, halfling the reliance on the two middle columns
There was a kid at school who swore his keyboard at home was different. We called him a lier, he could of had a different layout lol
Im Surprised no one pointed out you spelt liar wrong
@Suburban Burrito grammar police
@@suburbanburrito210 I'm surprised no one pointed out you spelled I'm wrong. :)
Pinguefy: tries to figure out keyboard and dedicated a entire video to keyboard
Jschlatt: throws keyboard
his videos are so cozy :) 🦔❄
i've been using my own personal keyboard layout for the past decade or so. but the switch wasn't for speed, it was to reduce the pain of my arthritis. comfort was the entire motivation and guide during the design process. it makes me happy to see others conclude that we can create our own mechanisms to make our jobs or even our lives just a little bit better
just now out of curiosity, i went to a random online test and got a 97wpm speed, compared against the site's claimed average of 30wpm. this is surprisingly high: while i am a researcher and a programmer, i've never considered typing for speed
BRO I FELT INSPIRED. ITS LIKE AN ANIME SCENE WHERE THE PROTAGONIST OVERCOME THEIR LIMITS
this video was really funny, I suscribe
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I've never been a good typer, I always cheated on the typing tests in school by looking down at my keyboard. But with this video, im going to do myself a service and research myself typing. Whether qwerty or Colemak I'll get better than my 20 wpm. Thanks for being an inspiration
Biggest problem with learning a new layout is anywhere you go you're gonna be stuck with a qwerty layout. So unless you have full control, qwerty will always have a hold on you.
You can change it in software
On all modern operating systems, layout settings are per user, and colemak is commonly available by default.
Hooked On Chronics cringe
Becca no it’s
Cringe :/
Same exams force you to use a computer you have no control, and you cannot run any software or use the internet.
This is kind of like an experience that i’ve had. Since I was nine I have done figure skating. I’m currently in high school and I still do it competitively. Last year I decided to try out hockey, I thought it would be fun since i’m short it would work because i can’t really play games like basketball. I also had just started playing field hockey too which isn’t quite the same but has some shared skills. I figured my skating ability would translate on hockey skates. I was wrong. In case you didn’t know, figure skates and hockey skates have different blades. Figure skates are longer and have toe picks, while hockey skates are shorter, have more curvy edges, and are rounded on the back side. I ended up falling backwards a lot because i wasn’t used to the back side being rounded. Also, the edges are different which is basically the sensitivity of when you lean the boot, how curved you skate. It was hard. I was trying to learn a new sport while also relearning to skate. I felt that I was handicapped because I continued to go back to a figure skating style. Over the course of the season I got better. I was better able to switch between going to figure skating practice and hockey practice. I would stumble the first few seconds but then something in my brain would click and i would be able to skate on either one. I had a tournament at the end of the season. It took place over multiple days and many games. It was basically like immersion rather than switching between styles multiple times a week. During that tournament I got a lot more confident and better with hockey skates. I think my progress was a lot slower because I continued to figure skate but I was able to develop the ability to switch between them. Now, I’m definitely way better at figure skating than hockey. Hockey is a really hard sport that takes years to master and Ive only played it over the course of around 6 months. I haven’t worn hockey skates since march due to corona but I’ve continued to figure skate so I wonder if i can still retain my ability to switch between skates since i’ve been back to my default for so long.
@aeon masueru same idk why, can't control myself
Although I'm 2 years late, I just wanted to mention my experience of learning to type in a different language since this reminded me a bit of it and I think the relation is interesting. A while ago I decided to learn korean, which uses a different writing system and has its own keyboard (I use the one called dubulsik), and my experience with it was pretty similar to yours with workman. I can type at about 120wpm with qwerty, but when I started learning korean I was able to type at about 10wpm if I was lucky, and there was a lot of trying to figure where the hell keys were, and randomly pressing keys until I found the right one, but there were also some differences.
Firstly, I still haven't been able to get as fast as I am at qwerty, I can still only type at 60 to 80wpm. But I think I would mostly attribute this to the fact that I'm less familiar with the words that I'm actually trying to type in the first place, rather than entirely just not being able to type that fast. It takes me a moment to even think how the word is spelled, before I can think about trying to type it. (tbh tho this **might** just be cope bc I haven't practiced enough)
Secondly, obviously I still type english, so I regularly use both layouts, but I notice that I never confuse them even when rapidly switching between them, and I don't think that would occur even if I only used one for a long time. However, that's only when I'm typing english with qwerty, or korean with dubulsik. If I try to do the other way around (eg when typing out "dubulsik"), it becomes impossibly difficult, I have to switch to deadstaring at my keyboard. The main thing I found interesting is just what it might suggest about how the keys that you press and the words you type are mentally connected.
This started off really interesting and then the redemption arc fully completed this video
At first I was like "How could you forget how to type in qwerty???"
But then I think about every time I try an unfamiliar game and get used to it, then I press seemingly random buttons when I go back to my regulars. When you do something for so long, it's second nature. When you learn something new, you have to constantly think about what you're doing until you're used to it. That constant mind-on-keyboard/controller thought process messes with you when you go back to something familiar. You've been so focused on the new controls that it's the first time in a while your brain has had to FIGURE OUT how to do something, and it won't let go.
"Grappling hook! Wait there's no grappling hook in this game. Wait why is there a grenade ricocheting back to me?"
Its like playing GTA your whole life and then getting your hands on Mafia II
@@azulaooo gta has way too many binds (on pc) tbh so switching to mafia 3 would be easier
Me every time I go from playing a lot of Overwatch back to League. I keep trying to move with AWSD. So many wasted W abilities...
You have got to be the most underrated youtube lmao
People like you make me feel like hes rated the way he is for a reason
@@BrilliantGamerRoblox oops, *youtuber
@@duskess6411?
Ok
and the most _cultured_ youtuber as well
my man playing touhou music
everytime i want to give up on colemak, I watch dis vid for inspiration:D
I love how when you talked about plateaus you played a shooter on your wacom tablet and mouse in osu. That can be a fun way to break mindblock and force yourself to go slower.
yeah but imagine playing games without WASD
nah fam i use my ears to move the character.
nah fam i use my hands to move the character.
The game: Use WASD to use
You: DASH
What the hell doesnt everyone use their leg to move the character
Some PC games don't let you redefine keys either. 8 and 16 bit computers allowed this more often, if you didn't like the arrow keys or 'QAOP and SPACE'
6:48 GOLD
Lmao
*”listen here you little shi-*
Congrat for sharing this journey through your muscle memory
I never learn how to type and this video has inspired me to learn
this is like a non-aggressive motivation video. i like it
"take a moment to look down at your keyboard."
*is on mobile*
😳
When you are typing your comment, aren't you looking at your keyboard too?
But I get it.
00:38
Leonardo Di Caprio pointing hysterically exited.pgn
COLEMAK
We had this typing class at school and whenever the text was French instead of German, I would switch to the French layout. The French layout is AZERTY, which is worse than QWERTZ, but I noticed that after some time, I started immediately pressing the correct keys. The huge difference between this and your experiment obviously is that most of the keys don't change. Also, I could connect the language change to the layout change and most importantly, I'm not that fast at typing anyway.
Byus us a brsb.
This is a test.
Oh, this is gonna be a journey to learn.
LOL good luck :D