Game Stores Hate the One Piece TCG
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I had someone tell me I shouldn’t be selling it at all and only give it away at events. I love it when people tell me I shouldn’t sell something that I paid for.
We even did that and then people were upset because we only gave 2 packs per entry. The packs are $10 EACH.
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the product is out there! But somehow it's falling into the hands of these individuals that run these "online stores", but really it's a front for these whatnot/tiktok shops where they overcharge or have auctions/bids...It's crazy Something scummy is happening at the distributor level
I feel like the big fuck up is not having enough supply for game stores yet they still put stock on shelves in big box stores
Big box stores are the only places I can possibility get product for msrp. I know it is a small chance, but a chance is a chance. Every LGS I go to have everything marked up.
Lgs selling it at scalping prices doesn't help either
That’s a fair assessment but they have to make money period. So blaming stores for having higher prices could be because they had to pay retail for them to be able to provide it for their own customers. Now with that being said I had a local LGS/LCS that would always over charge for sealed. If it retails for $30 they’re charging $45. But they’re no longer in business so
I enjoy when they close because they rip you off 15 dollors over is alot I can understand 5 bucks but damn the luffy deck is going for 60 and retails at 35 that's a 25 dollor markup and then they have the balls to charge tax
@@halomoon8408 sadly when stores become desperate at the end this will happen. Do you have access to a different store?
the hype for OP cards is going thru the roof. Just to put it into perspective, someone in Tokyo spent almost $50k just on exclusive OP cards in a single visit and winner of the most recent OP tournament in Japan was offered 30 mil yen for his super exclusive Luffy card. Insane for a game that's only a few yrs old...
To highlight how crazy it is, it’s only 1 year old
@@johnathanc22 yeah... a little over a yr and thank you. JP version was released in July 2022 and ENG in Dec 2022
Welcome to Bandai card games. Theyve always had this problem and they dont give a shit to fix it. Same thing happened with Dragonball back in the day.
Lol "back in the day". They've already borked DBS reboot.
@@matttran7161 oh I haven't been paying attention to that but I can only imagine how bad it is ya.
@Eiji475 it's bad bad. I know the Walmart vendor by name, they've never seen it. My LGS flat out told me they weren't carrying it because the last DB (I assume masters?) sold poorly. The ONLY saving grace is the Sim. If OP can get an official Sim up and add code cards, we'd be cooking.
@@matttran7161 I live in a big state & have like 10-15 LGS working my 30 mi radius, all carry & run DBS events. Products hard to come by & expensive but nowhere near the level of OP. The two LCS down the street from me have both packed games for OP, but multiple players have either quit or taken break due to how expensive it is to get into & keep up with. A bunch of those players have jumped over to DBS bc of how cheap it is to build a good deck & the top 3 deck can run you like $50-$60…Their still on the first set & the second set preorders at LGS & Online can be found for $149 a box. The games fine
What’s happening with OP is exactly what Happened with Digimon, you couldn’t get product bc there wasn’t enough for the demand which brings in scalpers. The prices for packs, boxes, & meta singles were beyond inflated for Digimon first few sets. Bandai eventually caught up with reprinting all those sets & subsequent ones & you can build a deck for nothing now. Bandai doesn’t care about their Western audience when it comes to physical card games, it’s why there’s plenty of JP OP01-06 booster boxes for sale over here at or below Msrp & while the West won’t see its first reprint until July lol They make plenty of money on OP in Asia & clearly have demonstrated the West is an afterthought when it comes to their games. It’s why they still can’t get regional offline events here done right, they’re letting companies run the events on their own with little support & their being forced to have under 500 player cut offs. I mean their website & TCG app is barely put together for western players lol The only hope is an official digital client, bc it’ll be the only way players will be able to play actual events. Until then they’ll just be those jank online twitch tournaments where “top” players are cheating on their $20 camera set up 😂
@@matttran7161Yeah it's "Masters" now, but it used to just be DBSuper Card Game. OP's problems stem from Bandai's longstanding issues.
Bandai strikes again! You'd think they'd have a better handle on print runs by set #6. Do they even want people to play this game?
I think the issue is more the people that buy it up purely to collect it rather than actually play the TCG, the crypto bros
@@khanman9146 It's both. Star Wars is in the same boat AND they're reprinting. SW though is mostly players while OP still has a scalper problem, the game is hella collectable because of the low stock, but as a game it's on a impossible bubble because of Bandai's refusal to run good tournaments *on top of* the stocking issues. This happened with DBS, it happened to Digimon, it's happening *again* with One Piece.
The problem is Bandai printing 5-6 different games when they should pour more resources in OP
@khanman9146 that argument doesn't work when Lorcana is overflowing shelves of every store it's in.
No, they want the product to sell out.
I think these companies forget that stores have bigger games to support or get better sales for the store. As far as the Japanese English that is a massive issue we have with Bushiroad too. Thankfully I've never had to deal with a lottery for entry despite Bushiroad having those. I am a TO for Bushiroad and I feel your pain on the website stuff and no instructions. Thankfully though I don't have to deal with the store being charged for tournament stuff.
Honestly OP is looking like pokemon and its popularity. Speaking outside of supply/demand issue
I had many frustrations like this with the Final Fantasy game when it first launched. How a large gaming company in another country doesn't figure out that they should have an American Division that helps them understand the gaming market here is beyond me. Many game store owners have been doing this for a long time, we have data, information, etc. that would be great to source and pull from. Many of us could be consultants for these businesses and they do not reach out. You are even giving them free information to show the flaws in the system and they probably won't listen to it. I've got 20 years of online sales experience in the CCG/TCG market. I have data that distributors do not have. We should be seen as Data experts for these company's products, not as just retailers. This is why the CCG/Hobby industry is so frustrating.
Bandai and distro definitely playing favorites with streamers I saw a few streamers counting to the thousands of the boxes they were selling at 175 . Also in Dallas tx Bandai has an official store and they sold 3-4 k of booster boxes on release while shops got maybe 100 or less boxes
What’s interesting for us in NJ is we have an official dedicated Bandai-One Piece TCG store, but the hype is hitting an incredible high. You have to show up at least 2 hours early to EVERY RELEASE and EVENT!
Less LCGs are stocking OP, so now everyone goes to this official store and it’s getting insane. You have players from PA, NY, and even CT all gathering to one store in NJ.
I know the place you are talking about they are planning to open more locations in jersey to see if it can help out.
Preach it! It sucks so bad.. we run tournaments weekly in store and players ask me daily for product and we just can't get it.. if it's not pre release or release day, we have 0 product.. only thing we can get from Bandai on the reg is prize support LOL
There's really sus behavior going on with One Piece and its print runs.
what do you expect? they dont own their own printers and they got like 20 games to print lol
I know the pain one of my local stores is trying to get the product in as well as registering to have tournaments I am going to get some old tournament packs but I won’t be able to provide a winners card so have sourced a mat for the winner
I usually put a flat 10$ entry fee, then add a "+ cost of packs for sealed events"
Are you out of the pro sign up cards as well and winners ?? The stores here are out but still old tournament for 4.99 everyone gets the entry promo and and ofc the winner get the winner promo a lot of stores been having success with that here tbh
I heard they are giving reprints out to only lgs. Can you confirm?
It sucks that that stores get so little off the product. The game is really fun and well made.
it says in application, product is not guarenteed.
I appreciate the way CNA has done it thus far - It sucks that distribution makes it hard. I genuinely hope CNA keeps supporting it as much as possible, but I definitely understand the frustration.
Doesn't help that Bandai has too games right now. Digimon, Dragon Ball, One Piece, Battle Spirits and probably more.
Union Arena later this year
It is near impossible to find one piece in the wild at market price,literally have like six stores that I visit on different stock days and even when they get stock it’s usually only like ten packs and will only take two or three to make sure other fans can get some the struggle is real
Come on Bandai, don't fail me now!
Glad I'm not the only one!! 😂😂
It's a shame that the product is so hard to get, my daughter and recently learned to play and we're having a great time. Sadly, it's just us, as there are no organized play stores in my city at all. No stores want to bother with unreliable product and nobody wants to answer phone calls from frustrated OP fans every day. So my kid and I do get to play for fun at least and don't have to try and keep up with the meta.
If no stores, you guys can always try for online webcam tourneys.
Sounds like they probably allocating to someone that pays more. Then just says sorry. We ran out of inventory. Also seems like it's just to generate hype.
Nothing like a Mason D.Luffy rant!
Yeah it doesn't make any sense lol, that's like having a Yu-Gi-Oh or Pokemon tournament and not having any packs to sell.
Mason D Luffy sent me 😂
I would make a chat with just shop owners and collectively get someone or a group to go after Bandai. The fact that they kill these games like Digimon and Dragonball before a real takeoff is insane. The loss these stores are taking is sad to see. Not only that but everyone just sells to each other and not trade in to stores to keep stock. I get its less value, but also a reason to this is a lot of stores dont let people use credit for OP and it makes people mad since its even less affordable.
It's such a shame that you as a store have to struggle with lack of stock and unclear information. I'd have thought that this wouldn't be an issue for Bandai and they could just employ a small team on the ground to liaise with LGS owners
If bandai would just stick to 1 or 2 games we wouldn't have this issue but they have 6 games total including union arena thats coming out this year that no one wants to play.
I agree, Eric!
6 different Bandai games of absolute crap
Don't dog dragon ball 😢 rip akiryo
The game would be awesome if Bamco would just handle the product releases over here better.
well i gave in on op
Farrr just a bit of common sense might help. Like the dates, you can run x events so choose x days you wana run them 😒
Bandai has always been notoriously terrible with distribution and tournaments. Now they've spread too thin with too many games to keep track of.
Straw hat crew forever
I've heard that in Japan that entry into events by (Manual) Lottery is very ubiquitous. I suppose they consider it more fair.
imo, I keep saying this, I don't trust any Bandai game for more than a casual romp. No matter how good their games are, their business structure is to pump out a new game every year and stretch their own player base thin, just so they can always experience the 1st year high of a TCG. It basically guarantees anything they make doesn't have a shelf life.
Of course their tourney software isn't good when that's their methods of business.
Straw hat crew forever!!!
Ya the whole no idea how much events should cost drives me crazy all the time
Im sorry but your reasoning is wrong. You are missing a huge opportunity by not hosting events etc. but do you!
With what product? Players won't show up for store credit events and if I pay out cash I make nothing, so without product to sell there's no point to hosting the events - do you see the loop I'm stuck in?
@@CNA-Games you are severely underestimating what you could do. Store credit is a great idea to get people in the shop and play! Most people are lacking options as Bandai hasn’t been good at offering many. People will show up. Product is nice and given your size you should get some allocated I would think. But good luck!
Yup he is making excuses. In south florida no one has product yet every store gets big turn outs. Not even PPG. Players dont even want sealed product. They prefer store credit so they can buy singles or supplies. Hes making excuses for his failures
@@CNA-Games promote it like crazy my local card shop is booming
Maybe you over pricing I understand you need to make your money back but atleast price it few bucks over retail value not charge 20 dollars over retail value
But did you complain to bandai or link them this video? have you contacted other stores owners to do a group complaint? You need to keep shaming them and telling them that you can t order anymore from their 2 distributors unless they fix their low manufacturing production.
i have a shop im in deep trouble since covid and cant do mistake or i must pay in blood, got some customers for one piece and the fucking distribuitor canceled me the order and forced me to refund a 6m preorder hen i have already eated the profit.
that artificial scarcity of bandai sucks so much, they delayed my digimon order a year, forced me to pay and no im stuck with all my monye in old digimon stock that doesnt sale and the USA price its so low that im losing 30% what i paid per box in 0 profit.
in fact if you can help a little shop from a 3rd world let me know this small shop i tace care of the house and my mom and we are not eating well right now :/
Dude no one says that lmfao 😂😂😂
The stores that get this in they shouldnt be complaining they start off selling cards such as starter decks for double rhe price...they rape card players
It seems like a lot of excuses to not want to take accountability and I might be wrong, but that’s just what it seems like off the complaints that were in the video. The idea of not having instructions there spelled out for you like a toddler just often because all the information on the website you have to go look for it in your busy store like that and yeah valid point but the information is available you have to be able to search on your own. If you don’t carry the product and if if you can’t carry the product and don’t want to foster or at least host events and just offer credit rather than it be done for you makes it appear like you are a little spoiled from the way, other kings run their events and hopefully does get there at some point but until then you’ll have some extra extra work. It doesn’t seem like you want to do on top of things you are already doing. Trying to be fair but look up through google or bookmark the website the info is available in the main Bandai and distributor sites.
The reason it’s selling out is not because it’s in demand per se. It’s because they only print a small amount so it sells out super fast making the game look more popular than it is.
Most recent statistics out of japan have optcg as the 2nd quickest growing tcg in the current market and they are sitting at 4th biggest tcg in Japan with 3rd biggest soon to be over taken.
You can't discount one piece popularity, it is the 2nd best selling comic in the world. Superman is number 1 but it has also been in print longer then op by many years.
Ah, I see you have the issue Vanguard has had for a decade.
#strawhatcrewforever
homie needs a better disto. OP for days out here.
There's only two, so there's not exactly a ton more I can do.
Bandai had screwed me over again, and again, and again. Stop buying bandai tcg's people. You're just gonna get screwed
I can remember attending YuGiOh events in the early 0000s, this is more archaic than the events held then, what the hell...
You'd THINK Bandai would invest just a tiny bit of effort for NA / English speaking venues / hosts ( One Piece IP is GIGANTIC, no excuse for this level of disrespect ). I miss going to events and to see something like this happening in 2024, to a great shop is so fkn disheartening. There is no reason to subject yourself to this, or ANY other TO, something needs changing.
Metazoo 2.0
How is it like metazoo?
@@quentin52 I assume he's referring to how it's hugely popular at the beginning but then because of mishandling by the company they fail to make enough product for people so they lose interest and it eventually collapses.
@@JohnDoe-ld8nr Do they compare in popularity though? OPTCG is easily the most successful new TCG in the last decade, did big box stores even carry metazoo?
@@quentin52 Why are you asking me? I was just telling you what he meant.
@@quentin52 big box did carry metazoo…also I imagine this is how metazoo wouldve looked if it were run but a bigger company…its a shit show