Is the Retaliator Worth Shipping?
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I own the full Retaliator Bomber and I have to say I was rather disappointed with the Gold Pass. There were real problems with the basic design that they just didn't address at all. The bathroom placement makes no sense. There is no way for the crew to eat as there is no food station I could find. This is supposed to be a long range ship with sleeping quarters for the crew but they don't need to eat? There are glaring issues with the basic design that just got left as is in the gold pass. Disappointing... very disappointing.
I agree completely, back in 2017 I remember thinking of this ship and a long range torpedo boat. One that could take the long way around and sneak up on operations/ships/missons. Now it seems like they want everyone buying the Polaris.
I’m scared gold pass on the freelancer line up will be just as bad.
Selling the modules separate is just sad and greedy to me and makes cig actually look bad.
It should start with one of the modules like cargo and then u pay for the other. Not pay a lot for just the ship and then need to pay even more just to use it functionally. They're getting desperate with funding I feel sometimes
Completely agree!
While it would have been nice, they were VERY upfront from the get go that the base 'tali was not coming with any modules whatsoever.
Just wait for the galaxy. I’ve already bought the med bay at $90. Hopefully as the price of the ship increases the modules will stay the same price
@@donnys2965 my CCU chain is ready!
@SCTimbal I get that, but the ship shouldn't be less of a ship because I didn't spend real world money to upgrade it. It should have had a better base model imo
Reading some of these comments I see that people have this ship for the wrong reasons. It is a bomber. That means it takes one pass (maybe a second on the way out) on a big target and then GTF outta dodge to go reload. The gun turrets are meant to be defensive as you are hauling ass out of the AO. This ship is not made to loiter over a target in contested airspace. Doing so in any of the larger, gunships should be fatal. If you want to camp a target and fire heavy guns on it get a fighter screen.
You can't even buy the modules in game so if you buy the base retaliator your screwed. no torpedos and no cargo
the modules are actually a big inconvenience. if you take the retaliator out from your main city you better remember to pick up your modules or install what you want to use or they are left behind to the station inventory.
I'd say comparing eclipse to a retaliator is like comparing sword to a shield.
Dropship retaliator is going to use torps for defensive stance as eclipse comes in for a strike leaves and comes again for a strike. Full torp retaliator can be a heart of patrol. However BOTH are support ships and to be most effective they require wingmen flying beside them.
I would say a better comparison is a Hammer to a scalpel. The Retaliator is a Gunboat that lobs Torps at larger ships... It's a Hammer whereas the Eclipse is more for those surgical strikes with precision and Stealth... A Scalpel.
The retaliator as single player, mid range ship is super interesting. But what vehicles can it load?
I really really like flying it... but at the end of the day, it is absolutely not a solo ship. So now I'm in the process of chaining it up to a Redeemer instead.
Since it has S3 turrets, you need five gunners for it to make full sense as a gunship. And at that stage, I feel someone is likely to have a Hammerhead to pull out that people can hop into instead.
At least the Redeemer has some pilot-controlled guns, and only needs one extra person to man an S5 turret for a lot of extra impact, and it can still take 1 pilot + 4 gunners total.
So yeah, it's not in my fleet any longer, and I'll just buy it with monopoly money later if I want it again.
The Tali sadly is in a terrible state for multiple reasons. Straight up for any job it can do, you can do BETTER with players in smaller ships for the same amount of crew, and be more flexible, do every job better and be superior in literally every metric and regard. The Tali is severely undergunned as well, it's barely getting the turrets upped to size 3 weaps, but that's not enough with their bad placement and view. The pilot should have two very large front mounted guns as well, 2 size 6 or 7 for its intended role of taking on bigger ships would help a ton, and its modules buffed a ton.
The Tali is a dream ship for a lot of people for its looks and "supposed" advertised function, but the reality is, it doesn't perform its stated purposes well at all, and is just completely and vastly inferior to so many other combined options that are more capable, more fun, more durable, etc. Hopefully the Tali gets a complete top down redesign pass to make it what it's supposed to be, what it was advertised for years, but right now like many other Aegis ships, it's just completely behind the power creep and very low D/F tier level performance and not worth it.
then tell me dear sir, where do you buy the modules in game, because the modules are only available on the website ?
so i am all ears where you find the functionality of the retalliator ? since you can buy the ship in game but it does not come with either bombs or storage, you can buy 1 of the 4 modules for about 50 to 60 dollars/euro.
This ship "was" good but now it is just a scam, the only function it has in game is to supply your crew with 4 turrets with s3 guns.... but the pilot can only fly from a to b and crash, no other function in the retalliator yet if you buy it in game
Yes it is purchasable in game, but no torpedos…
I plan to buy this today as a new pledge. Great ship gets better with the modules.
Nope, it's just a CCU piece.
Low cargo, not enough toprs or torp size to be better than the 2 player crew it requires flying individual Eclipses.
You sound like a belter
Wont lie, not a big fan of the cargo module being enclosed with the rest of the ship.
If it had like at least as much cargo capacity as the MAX I'd seriously think about upgrading even as a solo player. As it is a freaking tank, but the cargo amount is laughable. Maybe ingame, maybe never. For IRL pledge? Nooope.
So wait I bought this ship a long time ago and now I don’t have torpedoes?
I’m in the same boat as you and if it’s true and they aren’t going to change it I’m refunding the ship
I ccu'd my tali away coz not practical for solo use.. Dun say blades or NPC crew la..
I CANT SHOOT MY RETATIOR
No thanks. Should have compared it to a Connie Andromeda. When you do, you realize there's no reason to own a Tali - and definitely not for IRL money.