Is the Yamaha R7 BETTER than an Aprilia RS660? (Full Comparison)
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it only took a few laps around cota to totally become an RS660 simp. The chassis is sublime, the looks are gorgeous and the Italian details make it well worth the price. And it's still cheaper than most fully-faired Ducatis.
@@davidabad173 my advice, dont buy an rs660 to get to work everyday. but if you are a weekend warrior or it's a track toy. who cares, its italian.
@@davidabad173 i see the problem. you should get rich, jk
@@davidabad173 You're talking about taking a $12k bike on track b ut you can't afford to fix it if you kill it?
Tune that Yam to the same power and the Aprillia will be more reliable because its still stock.
@@davidabad173 if you want an affordable track toy the R7 is absolutely the way to go. Cheaper parts, almost certainly more reliable, better resale.
Having said that if I was on a budget I'd pick up a track modified SV650 and decide on R7/ RS660 / Street Triple / Daytona etc when you have had time to test ride them and the experience to judge them.
@@davidabad173 So buy a CB500 and get more reliability again. I've never read such a load of nonsense. I get it - you're so far up the R7's can you can see its throttle bodies. Thats not going to make it the better bike whatever daft "reliability" claims you want to make.
I put an order in for an RS660 a month ago, and your R7 video had me doubting and regretting my choice. This video has reassured me that the RS660 was the right choice for me. Can’t wait for it to get here. Awesome video guys! From the production quality, to the dialogue and real world comparison…you guys just keep raising the bar!
Good choice. You can't go wrong with the 660. I picked up mine 3 weeks ago and I am in love lol. The early issues that occurred are no longer an issue. Bike is just a fun comfortable enjoyable machine. Haven't even opened her up yet since I'm still in the break in phase but man is it such a nice bike. Wait til you get on yours. You'll be in awe after your first ride.
@@johnny_cash7588 I’ve actually already ridden one. I rented one from Riders Share for a weekend and ripped around the LA canyons. It’s the perfect amount of bike for me. I was just worried after the R7 review came out that maybe I should have waited until I got to ride one of those. But this review tells me everything I needed to feel secure in choosing the RS
@@oneviperbite Did you rent one from MotoforAll guys?? They are the biggest in LA area and I rented one from them too lol. Congrats on your new RS buddy. It is a sweet sweet bike.
Problems no longer an issue - hahahahahahahahahaha
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032 what do you mean?? Show me an article or post where there's an open recall after June of this year. The engine issue was fixed for those they had problems. Most other small issues were taken care of under warranty. And all bikes built after July are shipped without affected parts. Do you own one? Or just sharing what others have already said
Yammie saying literally anything
Spite: ABSOLUTELY
Thats how he got the gig!
Haha right
My same thoughts!
Put my deposit down on the 60th Anniversary World GP R7 earlier this week. Now my 05 ZX6R 636 will be converted to a track day bike like I originally planned when I bought it. Well when the R7, hopefully, arrives in January.
i fell in love with the 60th anniversary great bike man
I envy you so much as I have a r125 50th anniversary and i plan to get a r7 60th anniversary, maybe one day.
Yesssss! The comparison we’ve all been waiting for!!🥳👍🏻😁
I was a bit scared putting my ass on the R7 but it just took a sec and realised my body is way more suited to the rs660. It's my first bike (yes I've dropped it once, it's fine), and I just love her so freaking much, the sound, the feel.. I'm comparing her to a buell 1125r and the street tripleRS basically bikes I know well, she's def it's own even among lovely oddballs.
The R7 sure is cute though.
How is it as a first bike after some time? Any regrets?
You have come from funny voice over videos about motorcycle stereotypes and are now here. This is real motorcycle journalism. Congrats Yam & Team, you have earned at least 1 Million subs!
What I love about these 2 bikes is because they do sit in different parts of the 'same' market you get to choose based on the way you want to ride.
I just wanted to say that I love your videos so much. Great no nonsense format! Thank you guys!
I've never owned a Yamaha and never owned and Aprilia but for myself I'd go with the Yamaha. I like the looks, and the power (or maybe more accurately "torque") range is a lot better for most street riders, ... and then there's the reputation for reliability.
I've had my RS660 since March and I absolutely love it. The R7's riding position is more aggressive.
I own two yamahas and one aprilia. Aprilia all the way dude, excellent premium bikes nowerdays.
@Kappa not the same though when it comes to riding experience. The Aprilia is just better. But if you can't afford it, then the R7 is ok.
As soon as a person buys he R7 Yamaha will drop the new R9. 😂
For the money wouldn’t the Honda CBR 650 be better than the Yamaha? 20 more horsepower.
@@michaeljohnson2922 CBR650 is a very different bike. It's way heavier way more upright, more of a sport tourer to the R7s supersport. With all that extra weight I don't think it would even be faster to 100.
My 1st Rocket. 1986 FZ 750 5 Valve inline 4. Drove it to High school. A step up from my YZ 80 dirt bike!
RS660 without regrets. For me it was more an emotional choice rather than one of reason. So far we scream and laugh out loud at near full throttle while the electronics keep an eye out. It is still my hop on anytime bike of choice out of my stable👌
If you are not using your emotions in your motorcycle hobby, then you need a different hobby IMHO
Ditto..got a new one Lava red ...Amazing.
Im looking into getting the tuono 660 factory and its exactly the same for me, its an emotional choice. Even if the mt09 has better value for comparison. How is reliabilty? Ive heard some pretty discouraging stories. Especially like the engine dying in 4th/5th gear on highways
This just makes me want Yamaha to make an R9 more. I wanted a bike with the down low torque AND the top end.
The R9 would fit very nicely between the R7 and R1, especially with the R6 being relegated to track only.
Just got a 2021 mt09 sp and love it and would consider trading for a r9
I agree. It would be an awesome bang for the buck competitor to Panigale V2.
An R9 would be amazing. The CP3 is such a great engine.
I’m considering an xsr900 which would basically be a naked r9/mt-09 but that tank size is rather small
Praises to the heavens. The video ALL OF US have been waiting for
We were surprised no one had made it yet with actual bikes IRL!
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Most awaited and anticipated comparison of 2021!
An excellent and very informative comparison review! Great work guys.. Two thumbs up!
High quality comparo. Well done Gents. I think this really highlighted what the bikes can do beyond the spec sheet and what purpose they might fit depending on the type of experience you are after. I really appreciate this cus I am looking to upgrade next year from a CBR500R..
Excellent review !! U guys brought out all the things that need to b considered. Id go w the R7. Your comments that "it comes into its own when its on the side of its tire" is 88% of what i care about 🙂. The other 12% i care about is an engine that is always "right there, ready to assist the carve". 😁😁. R7 👍
Both bikes are a big win for sportriding, generally.
I agree.. Even R7 is down on power it accelerates really well and the RS660 had the top end power .
@@androidgamingtech7685 cbr 650r has more :)
What is insane is no filtering.Great show lads 🤩 I think I would keep the £2000 in my pocket.
Lemme save you 36 minutes. NO it's not.
I’m just watching while I shit
I also feel as if the future mods and tunes for the RS660 will sky rocket compared to any other bike it’s compared too.
The intro music…speaking to my 80s love of the synthesizer. Thank you.
Noticed that too. Just needed a corporate spokesperson with that generic 80s corporate voice..
Thanks Yammie! New subscriber here: Any chance of you making a quick video of the Motovation mods & improvements to the RS 660? Yea, I know you've already made quite a few RS 660 vids, and I really appreciate them all! Keep up the good work.
There are a few r7’s and some rs660’s that have already been racing in twins cup and the r7’s don’t get walked on. Last race I watched one of the rs660’s had problems and couldn’t finish the race which is worth thinking about.
I don’t know what races you’re watching… lol!!! Since the RS came to moto America, it’s been basically an Aprilia sweep EVERY RACE! you need to watch more race pal. Lol!!!!!!
Those R7s have built and tuned engines.
That’s not true. Many more fast riders on Aprilias this past year than the Yamaha. 2nd and 3rd in the championship were Yamahas
Having rode both bikes in Twins Cup. Both are great bikes but very different characteristics. When built to that rules package both are pretty evenly matched
@@haydenschultz7461 Well, straight from the horse's mouth.
I've really enjoy the video not as much as yours on these bikes :D. Great video, keep working!
Would love to see the R7 against the RS660 with few mods. Exhaust , DNA intake and ECU flash. Made a big difference
If I had the opportunity and could only pick one I will say this is quite a challenge in regards of which I would pick. I honestly like the look of the Yamaha a lot more and the sound plus linear is good for me but the 660 I do like different tech options and I feel the ergonomics might be better. If I could get the 660 in that blue I’d probably do that but the price is a bit high for me. I’m gonna pick the Yamaha R7 I also feel safer knowing the reliability is more solid with Yamaha. If it was my money I’d get the Yamaha.
YES! What Spite says at 3:45, i too get that spike in powerband mainly on track when i full gas it. Almost feels like the clutch is getting grabbed for a second.
The difference on the power band is what makes a motorcycle fun.
If you want to go slow, you can, and if you want to go fast, you push it...
Reminds me the SRAD 1996.. after 8000, it transformed into a different motorcycle. :)
I was in the market for a new track bike. I like how Yamaha sells every part you need factory to convert it.
Aprilia sells turn key rs660 track bikes for not much more
I'm enjoying a lot your channel guys, keep it up ;)
Thank you guys, THAT was a great video.
Was looking into both of these bikes , but r7 seemed to aggressive for me as an all rounder bike, and aprilia well.. didn’t want to pay a huge extra premium for it to sit in the dealers garage more then my own. Ended up opting for cbr650r and been super happy with it. Kind of a nice middle ground but with an i4 :) plus r7 was only $100CAD less than the cbr here in Canada so was kind of a no brainer . Rs660 was about 2.5k more
What the hell is that sun, here in Hungary it's raining wet everywhere and a deer nearly hit me today as I've been running in a forest. Nothing to do with the weather or bikes but that was really cool
Cant wait for yammie's track sesh on the r7
We just learnt that if you take the same cubic capacity, and increase the top end horsepower, considerable low end power is given up. And on normal roads this is not a good trade off,
That's such a basic internet expert comparison... You have a gearbox and gears remember...
@@leegarrett5469 that won't make up for it. Unless the high horsepower engine has cvt or an auto. And be prepared to be screaming the engine to get the torque that's now at 10000rpm peak.
the car in front of you at 5:32 gave you a right blinker to let you know that there was a car coming out the right. damn:)
Suspension wise, fully adjustable only real matters if you need to fully adjust it... Sometimes they just work out of the box.
Also RS660 rear suspension is tension/rebound in one dial (not rebound only).
I've owned the Yamaha FZ-07 and now own the Aprilia Tuono 660. Hands down, the Priller handles *Way* better. It feels so connected like I just think what I want to do and the Tuono does it. Power wise, the Tuono feels stronger too, but I do notice that it is geared on the tall side. Your comparison of 3rd for the Aprilia vs 2nd for the Yamaha may not be too far off.
You should do the custom setting on the 660 with the engine management on the least obtrusive setting. Dynamic mode still has one less throttle setting.
yeah im interested in this turning the electronics off see what happens
Proven over time reliability , cost of parts , high number of service shops around the country play a big part as to what bike or car I would buy .
You should consider all these things when making any purchase .
Josh I see your production game going up, I see ya. 👍
10/10 vid boys, good job x
I wish I had one of those. Cool bike! Someday I'll have one. It'll take long but there's no shortcuts
Love the Motovation mods to the 660 (Shout out to Pflugerville!). Does the Rapid Bike autotuner get rid of that flat spot in the rev range that y'all mentioned?
Great video guys 👍👏👏👏
Man that's a nice ride 360 and the neighborhood surrounding pretty good
Good review guys. Love the RS660
I really like the info you are giving, I'm a Yamaha fan but with the comparison you made I would really go for the Aprilla. I'm just too far from the opportunity to be part of your giveaways. huhuhu
Personally my number 1 question for my next bike is if it as cruise control. My daily drive is a 30 minutes highway ride. So cruise control is a great plus.
both of these machines are visually gorgeous.
last time I was this early to a Yammie vid Daytona's didn't have a mortal enemy
Daytona is a supersport. Different worlds.
I’m easily saving the money for the Aprilia out of these two. Yes it’s more, but it’s more bike.
You're going to fall in love immediately.
@@musicjnky1982 Mine had me at hello
Wise I'd say, it's so fab if you want something just over all lovely.
Mind you the rs has a full exhaust while r7 is bone stock.
Would be nice to see cbr in the mix!
In the Phoenix area I think debating which bike to get is a moot point from my experience. In the 4 Yamaha dealerships within 25 miles of me I've never seen a R7 on the floor or showing in stock on Yamaha's website (and very few MT07's or 9's). The Aprilia dealer near me always has a 660 on the floor (for the last couple of months anyway). I don't need a track bike so a MT (7 or 9) would work better for me anyway but don't want a poorly suspended/equipped MT07 and don't need the 9's power so wishing Yamaha would offer a MT07SP (naked R7).
The Handel in the background eventually made me wonder if it was just in my head.
Yooo that highway pull was super interesting!
Your words at 27 minutes and some change were all I needed. I've been kicking this one around for a couple years. I want long term. When you said the rs660 could be your "finisher bike, " that sold it. The next bike I get, I want it to be the "last bike I get..." at least for the next 10 years lol
Never gonna happen 😂
@justathinker8669 at least we all think alike lol I know it won't be the last... but hey, shhhh don't tell my wife lol
Great comparison! I think the rs660 is a real eye catcher. Looks great!
But running down the stats, I'm quite surprised when I compare both with my 2013 daytona 675. The old girl still stands her ground 😂
Because it was a real sportbike made to run on track...rs 660 and r7 are not extreme sportbike...r7 is an mt07 with fairings...but on road an rs660 probably is funnier and easyer to drive than your daytona...
R7 is gonna be my first bike. Stoked!
Still want to see a CBR650R compared with the R7. C
Aprilia all day. It’s way more beautiful compared to the generic Japanese bike looks, and it’s Italian. My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that I own a 2021 Aprilia Tuono V4 1100 Factory….
What those new r bikes are the best looking bikes ever behind the street glide
Yeah man, I’m about to hit 42. I had a RS125 with 33hp that would embarrass a lot of 600’s over a long run.
This really makes me want the mid sized version, guessing the twin will be pretty similar to the old 2 stroke.
@@lupo10 lies
Yeah I prefer my bike to start every morning, I'll stick to Japanese reliability
@Jay M Every vehicle made in Italy literally has a the worst relatability in humankind
I’m looking to get the rs660 or the r7 for my next bike, and this video is a lot of help, thinking I may go for the rs660!
Got give it to the R7 giving away that weight difference and the way it handles plus price and reliability
Really nice videa Guys! PErhaps in terms of quickshifter Yamaha wanted to leave it for modification since originally they wanted to take place in twins cups around the world? I mean any racing team would throw some race spec QS..?
For the price of the RS660 I could buy a triumph street triple R. More HP with a majority of the aprillia’s bells and whistles and even has a short person variety as a 5’6 person.
Spring for the triple RS. Worth the extra cost.
YESSIR!!! Thank you MR. YAMMIE!!! ;)
Extreme Creations is coming out with a turbo kit for the R7. Just saying.
Thank you for this
at that point just buy a faster bike ..if you want a super sport style faster bike by the time you buy a r7 and install turbo its way cheaper to buy a older r1 and have a vastly superior bike in every way
@@ThatGuyRides r7 ..9 grand ..turbo kit ecu flash exhaust etc 6,063 dollars not including any labor costs ...and this will net you roughly 112 to 125hp ...my 02 r1 cost under 5k has 150 hp or a used kawasaki h2 will cost you around 16k (same as a r7and turbo ) and will net youa 197hp supercharged bike...do what you like but in my opinion its a serious waste of money to boost a entry level bike just buy a faster stock machine
@@carolinayamadawg8706 yea I agree to disagree. That's the equivalent of telling someone that wants to boost there car to just buy a faster car cause it's cheaper and already built. Sometimes I think it's more about the journey and people you meet along the way then the money. I mean instead of boosting the busa they (yammie) could of just bought a used h2 like you said and saved money. It all comes down to the experience imo 🤷
@@cocouffs nah i stand by my previous comment lol but to each thier own i mean at the end of the day its your money waste it how you please
The RS660 is a good looking bike and preforms well but at the end of the day I would go with the R7. R7 is cheaper and I have way more places to have it serviced if need be and you can't beat Yamaha dependability. Hope you do the same comparison but with the R7 & CBR650R.
Is the reliability a factor to consider and that distinguishes the two?...
Yes
The yamaha would be undeniably one of the most reliable motorcycles money can buy. The rs660 should be okay…so far they’ve had a couple of recalls that got taken care of relatively easily.
Thanks for the feedback all. I'm looking for a great second bike next spring/summer.
@@A_Wolf I’m sure whichever bike you get, you won’t regret it. Ride safe!
What ever the bike you pick you wont be regretting about it.
Question answered! Monday 12/26/2022 I did a group ride here in so cal. Nice day, decent road conditions, riding through the local mountain roads. I have been waiting for the chance to ride with a R7. All the hype and CZcams comparisons. The R7 has nothing on the Touno 660. I had to brake constantly to not run it over. Until I completely destroyed the R7. If you want a middle weight naked buy the 660 Touno.
I own an r6 and r1. I would a totally consider buying an r7 after watching the 44teeth review
Thank you guys for actually making a comparison video of R7 and RS660. As an CBR650R owner and have ridden RS660, I would much like to see my bike in the mix since it sits somewhere between those two but I know it's kind of hard to find one just to do a comparison because no one is renting it out. CBR is heavier but with more hp at the top end than R7 and has similar power delivery characteristics as RS660 so it would be fun comparison I think. It also priced somewhere between R7 and RS660 in the US. As for the performance numbers....someone from Europe (UK I believe) has website called Motostatz and they do performance tests perform by one dude and fortunately they tested all 3 bikes already. Performance time might be inaccurate since it is heavily depend on rider's weight and skill level but it gives you a sort of basic idea of how those 3 bikes would compare.
From 0-60 mph, R7 takes the lead with 3.27 secs followed by RS660 with 3.29 sec and CBR with 3.33 secs. From 0-80 mph, RS660 is the fastest with 4.75, CBR with 5.03 and R7 with 5.07. From 0-110 mph, RS660 is still the fastest with 8.15, CBR with 9.03 and R7 with 10 flat. Pretty much R7 takes off hard until 70ish mph then RS660 and CBR catches up and slowly move away. However, both R7 and CBR are missing quick-shifter while RS660 has one on stock.
As for cornering, I think RS660 would be the fastest going around the corner since it has weight advantage and better tire but R7 would be right behind and as for CBR...it would be a bit tricky to go fast on corner since it seems like there is a tiny bit of delay when I tried to lean for corner. However, if you can manage to time it right and put same tires as RS660, CBR would have no problem keeping up with RS660 on twisted road as I had no problem keeping up with my buddy's S1000R (Not RR) with stock tires.
As for the Kawasaki bros and sis.....unfortunately Ninja 650 is a bit down in performance than those 3 bikes since 0-60 is 3.53, 0-80 is 5.92 and 0-110 is 12.10 but it was the most comfortable 650 class sport bike I have ridden and I think it looks awesome as well. Also you can still get zx6r, which destroys all 3 bikes in performance, for under $10k at some dealership since this year is the last year for zx6r I think.
Wrong numbers on kawasaki. Take a min to think about 0-60 and 0-80 times.... Too close. 0-60 might be high 3 sec or low 4 sec.
The vídeo also shows the rider weight reeeeally matters.
Best comment on the video...well said my friend...well said
@@filipematos1821 Sorry about that, it was a typo. It is actually 3.53 and I fixed it. Also I already mention the rider weight affecting the performance numbers on my comment as well. Those tests are done by single person so besides the time figures it is pretty accurate comparison.
Great comment, much appreciated as this was the comparison I was also looking for. Fantastic video regardless, especially delving into the RS a bit more, so now I know my true choice is between RS and CBR. I'll be keeping my eyes on the web for further reviews on the RS reliability as I'll want to know that the next iteration has dealt with it's initial issues.
Its almost as if acceleration performance was somehow related to horsepower. Who would have guessed? 🤣
Also could we stop with this whole “Torque” thing on sports motorbikes? Its bullshit and wrong.
The r7 is my choice just because of reliability and price but performance is important too
Looks are subjective, both bikes are amazing and go for the one your heart wants to! That RS is one of IT'S kind but the greater part of i want to ride a motorcycle is ' excitement' and to me that yamaha is a hell of a bike, it checks every boxes.....
People forget the maintenance on Aprilia. I have an aprilia and Suzuki. $400 for a valve adjustment for the Suzuki. $2000 for the Aprilia. So if you going to start on a bike and it’s your first, start with a brand that is cheaper
$2k. Omg that is absolutely disgusting
@@n0time2spare haha yea bro. I didn’t know either after I bought my friends bike
Yeah. People also say "Get a 1000! Get a 1000!" While never talking about the maintenance cost. No wonder many stay in the garage more than on the road.
@Kappa you could be right because it’s half a V4. So I will say over a $1000 minimum. Or I can just call when the shop opens and ask.
@Kappa that makes a lot of sense now. Yea man Bmw’s, Volkswagen, Audi’s, Aprilia, Ducati, and anything that is European is a hell of a lot to maintain in the United States. Honestly it is a rip off.
we are just too close to the 1M
ive been waiting since the turbski reveal 😂
love the content. Just commenting in the vain hope that it'll get you guys a few subs.....I wanna see the BUSA
Great climate for testing bikes enjoy the shows would like to see some of the crazy japanese bikes from 80s and 90s like a 500 gama or rc30 any ninjas or exup 1000 lol
great video
I'd take the Yam, the CP2 is tried and true.
And so boring too 🤣
@@sebastian8294 don’t think I’ve ever seen the cp2 called boring
@@GotPoopWeScoop in compare whit RS660 it is extremely boring 😉
@@sebastian8294 I think the rs660 engine is kinda boring just a normal parallel twin. Cp2 sounds better at least.
@@GotPoopWeScoop just drive both and you won't say something like that! The sound from the CP2 is just bad without an extra exhaust. RS is 1000x better whit Orginal exhaust.
when the rocket 🚀 starts by RS660 by 7000rpm, the CP2 just feels boring.
You fell like the cp2 is standing on the spot 🤣
They are so pretty! I don't know which one looks better though😅
Those roads and that weather, I would be happy on a Monkey Bike, wet and getting cold over the pond... Although got out on a good ride today and it stayed dry
Yammie, what is your helmet/audio setup? Your voice is so clear and wind noise is so low! I have an external mic inside my helmet with a little wind muff but the wind is still very noticeable, how do you get it so low?
Looking at getting a rs 660 this year. And also to note you can find plenty of them for literally the same price as the R7 which is a huge factor if you’re thinking of buying either of these.
Just look at the size and shape of the windscreens, that should tell you a lot about what the ergonomics of the bikes are set up for.
I bought a 2023R7 and just Love it!!!!!
Riding my RS660 home from the dealership tomorrow after 3 years with an MV Brutale (2015, 126hp), will report later 😁
1:31 Heyyyyy, I'm wearing this exact shirt right now!
Uh...Aprilia Claimed 372lbs dry on the concept, never heard of any wet claims.
Same with errors in info on screen, small nitpicks though, great vid!
Where abouts in America are you guys riding around? Looks nice & sunny... watching this from wet & windy England
I will be competing against these with my 2007 Kawasaki 650 this season. Bring em on!
The quickshifter for the Yam is up only, so no downshifts.
I want them to put that front end on an MT-07 and I'll go buy one right now.
LOL @ the Turbo H. .... Anyways Spite, Yam,.... as a Yamaha Owner,... I was actually impressed to see Spite run away from the Aprilia, on the R7. The adage is right..... Faster Sons.
Stay Safe .
Hey, Yammie ! While doing ride test comparisons, I suggest that you carry extra weight on the bike that you are riding, in order to match your weight to Spite's, to get a more accurate comparison of the two motorcycles. 🏍🤷♂️ 🛵
Big ol' weighted rucksack
That conclusion got me real hard lol
It's almost like these manufacturers observe each other's products and design their own to compete in areas the others are lacking.
But they then seem to lack in another area. No bike is ever the best. Often the all rounder wins. And I say it's no good at either task.
They have a gentleman's agreement and no manufacturer make n y thing that absolutely flogs the competition to get all the sales