RISE OF THE AELDARI : KNIFE-EAR SUPREMACY | Beginner to Expert Podcast

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  • Today on the Beginner to Expert Podcast the Lorecrimes team discuss the Rise and Fall of the Aeldari!
    With Colin ( ‪@pancreasnowork9939‬ ) explaining the basics and Hal ( ‪@TheAmberKing‬ ) elucidating the full-depth of the topic; we discover the power the Eldar weilded in the wake of the War in Heaven and the birth of She Who Thirsts: Slaanesh!
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    EDITED BY: Hal ( ‪@TheAmberKing‬ )
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Komentáře • 93

  • @guywholikesmemes4993
    @guywholikesmemes4993 Před rokem +124

    Old ones:"we have given you extremely enhanced senses, reaction time and psychic abilities to help you fight any evil that threatens reality, including the necrons."
    Eldar:"k we'll use it for pleasure."
    Old ones:"doing that however will cause massive reality rewriting by psychically-"
    Eldar:"yeah, we know."
    Old ones:"you will liter-"
    *65 million ish years later*
    Eldar:"....ah....I see why the frog people said not to do this....F U C K."

    • @germakenjuju
      @germakenjuju Před rokem +20

      Can't really blame them with that sweet sweet pre fall Aeldussy just wandering around. It was probably like one of them Japanese adult animations before the birth of Slaanesh , you know the kind, just really sick and twisted stuff going on regularly.

  • @CottonPanzer
    @CottonPanzer Před rokem +129

    Eldar: Murder billions, nothing happens
    Humanity: One guy is murdered, first Daemon is born
    Seems balanced

    • @runcmd1419
      @runcmd1419 Před rokem +21

      Because they had good gods.

    • @Thundrfox
      @Thundrfox Před rokem +3

      Why the fuck is humanity always the focal point for this shit.
      We are so fucking self obsessed

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master Před rokem +1

      But something did happen dummy ,your comment is retarded

    • @dendrien
      @dendrien Před 5 měsíci +3

      It’s a stupid setup and proves how incompetent GW is when it comes to world building and especially when it comes to deities

  • @BoneTrait
    @BoneTrait Před rokem +67

    And then Khaine was holding off Slaanesh and…wait…what’s-
    OH MY GOD, IT’S KHORNE WITH A STEEL CHAIR!

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 Před rokem +89

    “We Aeldari are a proud and noble race. We’re not lewd!”
    “You literally murder-fucked a Chaos God into existence.”
    “We’re working on that!”

    • @PsychoticFruitfly
      @PsychoticFruitfly Před 11 měsíci

      they completed their court ordered therapy and are currently in community service.... it's a process.

    • @ouchpotato2221
      @ouchpotato2221 Před 7 měsíci

      Don't worry it will quite literally not happen again or will cease to continue.

  • @handlinitificould
    @handlinitificould Před rokem +48

    I'll have to show this to my buddy Pancreas, he really likes Elves, so he might get into 40k now

  • @tdab3883
    @tdab3883 Před rokem +63

    Oh boy Pancreas is really going to like this one

  • @chief8012
    @chief8012 Před rokem +47

    necrons: alright we're going to bed for the night y'all don't get too crazy
    The Aeldari, About To Invent New Crimes: ok sure

  • @Lunch_Meat
    @Lunch_Meat Před rokem +53

    I like space elves, but when I introduced my homebrewed craftworld of the Kee'bla-r, who had a chocolate stripped color scheme, my friends all laughed at me. Elf hate is the worst hate

    • @kingleech16
      @kingleech16 Před 8 měsíci +2

      😀😀😀🍪🍪🍪

    • @HenriqueLSilva
      @HenriqueLSilva Před 28 dny

      It's also the most justifiable since, after the necrons, they're the faction who holds the most blame for nearly every problem in the setting, including the tyranids since the events that brought them to the galaxy were because of chaos, and the Eldar have varying levels of blame in the origin of just about every chaos god

  • @Scowleasy
    @Scowleasy Před rokem +19

    The Eldar have a path for EVERYTHING. They have a path of dreaming where they daydream so intensely they need a guide to pull them out so they don’t die of starvation.

  • @thek9408
    @thek9408 Před rokem +10

    Space elf space elf space elf space elf

  • @epicgamer1910
    @epicgamer1910 Před rokem +19

    truly, the eldar deserve such greater appreciation. eternal mystics and psychotic alien pirates will always hold stories worth telling. a tragedy that the tale of those among them who defy death itself was cut short due to an absence of audience willing to lend an ear.. the issue of telling the tales of the eldar isn’t that there aren’t stories of wonder, horror or magnificence to be told, it is the want of the culture-less thronging masses of SWINE that compose the rotten empire of fools who usurp the most glorious race to ever grace the galaxy; to hear only more and more and yet more of their beloved mon’keigh’s degeneracy and barbarism. we must set out on a RIGHTEOUS crusade to enlighten these lesser ape-things to the self-evident supremacy of the illuminated aeldari, miracle workers and noble lords of the galaxy since time immemorial, inheritors of the wisdom of gods themselves. i jest. or..?

  • @eichler721
    @eichler721 Před rokem +11

    Love the Eldar lore and I like the newer version where the Chaos Gods minus Slanesh was initially created during the multiple War in Heaven and then they fully formed during Humanity's time. Also the Necrons and C'tan now being more then just this Galaxy and the War in Heaven literally being the entire Universe and multiple galaxies. It makes far more sense and logic and the Milky Way is where the war ended after multiple galaxies where destroyed and the shattering of C'tan shattered.

    • @jonathanathor117
      @jonathanathor117 Před rokem +2

      so the 40k universe is a dead universe due to the war in heaven and the milky way is only part that's still alive?

    • @eichler721
      @eichler721 Před rokem +2

      @matthewmarajh1659 no as the Tyranids arrived from other Galaxies and its shown that the Rangdan possibly did as well. However multiple Galaxies where destroyed and this helps create the God's of Chaos.

    • @ouchpotato2221
      @ouchpotato2221 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@jonathanathor117 Doubtful as where would the nids be coming from if they are around the Milky Way on all sides

  • @ThexVaultxTech
    @ThexVaultxTech Před rokem +6

    And then Caine drives me across the west coast while giving me cryptic advice after making Drachnyen

  • @solidsentinel1285
    @solidsentinel1285 Před rokem +7

    Yeahhh babyyyy humanity created the first demon that started the downfall of the eldar, that’s humanity 1 space elves 0

  • @Vojevoda13
    @Vojevoda13 Před rokem +5

    I’d say you made a proper emphasis on Craftworlds philosophy. Why exactly they left, and how they live rught now. Same goes for Exodites.
    Also, when describing Fall, most people forget about story in Path of the Seer book. It gives some really interesting perspective on the Fall. And idea, that things may have not no so straight forward as we used to believe.

  • @runcmd1419
    @runcmd1419 Před rokem +9

    Pet theory: Creating the Emperor messed up the balance of warp energies, causing the creation of chaos demons and gods, and corrupting the normal creation process of eldar gods changing slaanesh from a god of reverie to that of consuming obsession. This could have affected Aeldari souls as they cycled through the warp.

    • @playtoyx
      @playtoyx Před rokem

      Didn't the eldar have thousands of emperor level psychers? They could be reborn too. How does 1 guy unbalance that?

    • @runcmd1419
      @runcmd1419 Před rokem +4

      @@playtoyx one entity born of the sacrifice of all the shamans, acting as an avatar of humanity, which had tens of thousands of years to gather power from the warp before slaanesh. Don’t forget the three other gods coincide with human events much earlier in the timeline, and the first human murder creates the first daemon. Human’s have a seemingly special place in the galaxy.
      It gives a reason for the Emperor to be the anathema to the gods. Also a tragic irony that the humanity’s saviour is the root of the big evil in the galaxy.
      The chaos gods seem to be perversions of natural emotions, and grow sort of like a cancer, threatening to kill the host by consuming it. Would be poetic if they existed because of humans messing with natural processes for their own benefit.

  • @rigulur
    @rigulur Před rokem +6

    i'm scared that by the end of this video i may actually want to play eldar

    • @rigulur
      @rigulur Před rokem +2

      oh dear they are pretty cool lorewise. funny as it is to joke about them its not fair to dunk on their successors for the actions of their ancestors

  • @Pat0p
    @Pat0p Před 5 měsíci +3

    43:25 So, the Eldar are the space-faring trust-fund babies of their helicopter-parenting frog daddies.

  • @vontheunknown7982
    @vontheunknown7982 Před rokem +12

    The dawn of war games did really well with the Eldar, What do you guys think?

    • @Vojevoda13
      @Vojevoda13 Před rokem +2

      They did aeldari better justice, then most GW original books.

    • @vontheunknown7982
      @vontheunknown7982 Před rokem +2

      @@Vojevoda13 They really did too.

  • @OljeiKhan
    @OljeiKhan Před rokem +8

    Wouldn't Slaanesh be the LAST demon/god spawned into existence by the Aeldari?
    And i doubt our middle ages spawned the other gods. I'd think it would be the other way around. As mighty Khorne awakens in the warp , some insignificant(in the galactic scale) warlord on an insignificant planet just declares himself Ghengis Khan. One of many billions of "warlords" throughout the sentient races of the galaxy.
    Most definitely including the Aeldari.

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master Před rokem

      Oh just shut the fucc up humanity created the other 3 and the Aeldari created Slaanesh just take it and move on

    • @OljeiKhan
      @OljeiKhan Před rokem +5

      @@Troupe_Master you don't need to be so angry about it.
      Lore-wise humanity CANNOT be the sole reason for a Chaos God's existence in a galaxy full of sentient creatures just like humans. The Aeldari sensed all emotions on a denser level and were innately connected to the warp. It is only natural for someone to assume one insignificant backwater species of around several hundred million people can't create chaos gods out of their asses when the galaxy would have millions of planets inhabited by other/comparable such sentient creatures.

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Před rokem +2

    Got a lot of respect for Exodites they got Dinosaurs and stay isolated rather then do depravity and hedonistic pleasure or even Sergorath the laughing god

  • @thekoalawasbrown
    @thekoalawasbrown Před rokem +2

    is that amber kings voice i hear?

  • @AgentHurley
    @AgentHurley Před rokem +4

    I'd love to hear about the wars for Armageddon

  • @davideddy8557
    @davideddy8557 Před rokem +2

    Did this man really just turn me into an Aeldari fan?

  • @Predator20357
    @Predator20357 Před rokem +3

    On this Episode!: Former or Current Humans proceed to make fun of the Eldar wearing the Karls Franz Armor while that same Eldar goes on damage control.

  • @emdeo
    @emdeo Před rokem +1

    Funny how the highway tunnel squatters ended up arguably in the best spot.

  • @Fehorder
    @Fehorder Před 7 měsíci +1

    The quiet thing to fall was Kreia in KotoR 2 iirc

  • @Lordradost
    @Lordradost Před rokem +1

    _For the Newbies about the Eldar birthing a God:_
    The Eldar experience emotions on a scale so great that it'd overload the mind of any human. On top of that they are all psychically capable if not innately talented, practically immortal and think much faster than we do - all of which feeds into the Warp like no race does.
    So when they went down a path of hedonism and eventual depravity, then stayed the course at top speed; It created a God faster than any race could have. This is why Slaanesh is connected to and lays claim on every Elder in existence.

  • @AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHAA

    Make Biel-tan whole again

  • @kakerlake4468
    @kakerlake4468 Před rokem +3

    I thought the chaos gods being created in the dark ages was non-canon ?

  • @rhivan6921
    @rhivan6921 Před rokem +3

    A fun little tidbit I remember.
    Slaanesh actually helped orchestrate their own birth. Since the chaos gods are timeless and always existed just their influence is lessened. Slaanesh used their ties with the Eldar, to corrupt the Eldar into creating Slaanesh.

  • @blackalgae370
    @blackalgae370 Před rokem +2

    Pancreas sent me

  • @probablythedm1669
    @probablythedm1669 Před rokem +3

    Aeldussy? 😍

  • @jameskilts555
    @jameskilts555 Před rokem +2

    F in chat for Khaine, long live da ORKZ

  • @Ragingkane88
    @Ragingkane88 Před 7 měsíci +1

    You're welcome

  • @bigdaddy_bo6741
    @bigdaddy_bo6741 Před měsícem

    I need an official timeline vid, please and thanks!

  • @philknecht3598
    @philknecht3598 Před rokem +1

    If the emperor starts off as super god man, what is the significance of him going into the warp on moloch and becoming even more super god man?

  • @CottonPanzer
    @CottonPanzer Před rokem +1

    Ahhh, definitely, my beloved Alpha Legion.
    XX

  • @the_inquisitive_inquisitor

    Wouldn't Nurgle have done and been existing way before Humanity gave birth to Khorne??

  • @ThijsSchrijnemakers
    @ThijsSchrijnemakers Před rokem

    Thanks,
    Comment for the Skull Throne

  • @dukedevlan5457
    @dukedevlan5457 Před rokem +1

    So are the chaos gods the human pantheon like how Khaine ,Ausurian,, cheogorac( clown god) are the eldar gods and Gork and Mork are for orks spelling bad

  • @cegesh1459
    @cegesh1459 Před 8 měsíci +1

    First murder = first demon ever is not confirmer, right?

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s Před rokem +1

    Tbf Humanity created 3-4 chaos gods maybe even vastor while the Elves made 1 giant mistake after 60 million years of dominant rule and a couple of good gods

  • @marvelouspatches8577
    @marvelouspatches8577 Před rokem +1

    God i fucking love space elfs

  • @inurokuwarz
    @inurokuwarz Před rokem

    FINALLY some good food

  • @Cthulhunoms
    @Cthulhunoms Před rokem

    Tell me as much as you can about Tzeentch because it feels like nobody knows what his current plans are beyond "he plans to have a plan."

  • @thekoalawasbrown
    @thekoalawasbrown Před rokem

    a topic i always wanted explained is who named the primarchs

  • @lazywargaming6752
    @lazywargaming6752 Před rokem +1

    To be fair. The elves did get god mode because they survived a war were being like the emperor were treated like cod kill streaks

  • @JuanPalomoM
    @JuanPalomoM Před rokem +1

    Eldar lore eldar lore eldar lore eldar lore eldar lore eldar lore eldar lore

  • @darkpheonix3436
    @darkpheonix3436 Před rokem +4

    'Eldar were enslaved for a bit and that's where the term mon'keigh comes from'
    Did the based never relevant monkey people enslave the space elves

  • @MegaDoom101
    @MegaDoom101 Před rokem +1

    As a great idiot probably once said
    “Eldussy”

  • @Streygenmoment
    @Streygenmoment Před rokem

    Is chegorach in Warhammer fantasy/AOS too or nah?

  • @silveriper3X
    @silveriper3X Před rokem +1

    Humans creating 3 gods sounds like some elf propaganda

  • @wesleypatterson6796
    @wesleypatterson6796 Před rokem +2

    What do Aeldari children and Burning Man have in common?
    Burning.
    How do Salamnders prefer their Meat and Eldar?
    Roasted.
    What do Gay Men and Eldar have in common?
    They both love stones.

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master Před rokem +1

      Last time I checked the Salamanders were wiped out in that Istvan event , that if I remember correctly, was caused by legions posing as loyalists. Murdered by your best friends that's a common reccuring thing for humans. Have such a hard on for killing each other. Dumb beasts

  • @scuffandy8723
    @scuffandy8723 Před 11 měsíci

    There were Chaos demons during the war in heaven

  • @lukeamparo6586
    @lukeamparo6586 Před rokem

    Are the Primarchs like Gulliman as Xenophobic against Eldar like the rest of humanity? Or would he and other Primarchs be willing to deal with Slaanesh cooperatively?

  • @mattwilson3516
    @mattwilson3516 Před rokem +1

    Aren’t the dark elder just paying slaanesh off to not their souls and the only reason that humanity fell was because of the elder and them destroying the warp

    • @VancePetrol
      @VancePetrol Před rokem +1

      They're kind of hiding in the a corner of the webway iirc and have a 'deal' of sorts where Slaanesh won't actively go out of her way to hunt them down and consume their soul so long as they empower it with acts of supreme degeneracy and super torture like turning people into living, conscious flesh chairs and stuff.
      Humanity was already fucked after the war with the 'men of iron' and then whatever was left got isolated from one another because warpstorms accompanying Slaanesh's births making interstellar travel impossible. It was the final drop making the bucket spill over.

  • @abcdodd
    @abcdodd Před 9 měsíci

    I've never understood Imperial players complaining about 'the Eldar are responsible for the creation of Slannesh' when the other 3 are attributed directly to the human race.

  • @Fyrwulf
    @Fyrwulf Před 11 měsíci

    Anyone that isn't on the HFY train in 40k is sus, tbh.

  • @sirflapfla97
    @sirflapfla97 Před rokem

    THE MONKE MEN
    THATS ME

    • @Troupe_Master
      @Troupe_Master Před rokem +1

      Indeed you my friend are a dumb stupid hairy maidenless monke man

    • @sirflapfla97
      @sirflapfla97 Před rokem

      @@Troupe_Master yes I am

  • @PsychoticFruitfly
    @PsychoticFruitfly Před 11 měsíci +1

    @28:17....... my ex wife happily cut off her 2 oldest kids for daring to question her (legally) abusive methods. even kicked her oldest out at 15 so she could move a boyfriend in.
    some people ain't meant to be parents.

  • @ghostytigger6383
    @ghostytigger6383 Před 9 měsíci

    It's B.C not bce

  • @Jij29
    @Jij29 Před rokem +1

    Hating eldar is just a basic trope now......

  • @dendrien
    @dendrien Před 5 měsíci +1

    Honestly the time scale where the chaos gods birth I find it to be. Underwhelming and nonsensical consider that all 3 of them were birthed out of humanity within less than 400 years apart consider that it already existed grand scale of wars before the humanity and so did plagues. Honestly I’d find it better if they had always existed and not birthed by humanity. Slaanesh is perhaps the only god that actually made sense

  • @Teddybomb
    @Teddybomb Před rokem +1

    i dont think we need a reminder 2 days ahead of time.