Avengers Directors Reveal Why They Nerfed The Hulk & Upset Fans
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It's not even the fact that hulk is smart. Smart hulk in the comics still has the strength and savagery of normal hulk. Sometimes he even battles with dealing with his rage, which is very interesting
Yea the MCU could utilize smart hulk in an interesting way but they havent had the time yet i mean She-Hulk is the first thing hulk has had a legit role in since endgame
@@baIoney
They neutered him in Infinity war made him scared going against the very basis of his character the madder he gets the stonger he gets. Lou Ferrigno said Ruffalo is horrible Hulk compared to Ed Norton I agree with him. One more thing if they were going make him a weak character then he should have given up his first fight against Wolverine when he was sliceing him up.
We only had Professor Hulk/Smart Hulk in one movie and one episode. There is still a lot they could do with him that's more interesting.
No he doesn't, he used guns and weapons because he was weaker
@@Nzosaba_Matenge It seems like MCU Smart Hulk might actually be stronger than the comic counterpart judging by the first episode. He was able to throw a boulder into space.
Explaining why we’re in a awful situation, does not make it any less an awful one
Well at least it’s been addressed, I really miss the 2008 Hulk!
2008 Hulk was on the same path as the MCU Hulk. The film ended with him outta sight in the jungle, staying away from people on purpose. Not trying to fight or Hulk out of control.
You can tell how much they hate Hulk when they make the gamma radiation from using the Infinity Gauntlet actually hurt Hulk instead of dramatically empowering him.
Not only that they actually had him in an arm sling afterwards when Hulk has one of the best healing factors in the Marvek universe
I mean... Atleast hes healing compared to Tony Stark or Thanos who were permanent?
Hulk just said it was Gamma to make himself feel better
*Marvek*
Ummm at the end of the day Hulk is still a mortal. Gamma is the only reason it didn't kill him outright.
@@AkitoVR thanos still lived he just had a scar lol
His power level is essential to his character. Thor has his hammer Captain America has a shield. Hulk has his strength. You can defend the brothers all you want. They should have kept Hulk off world
^ Films are not comic books. Overpowered characters are boring. Banner needs to be interesting as a character and currently he *is.*
You will never have successful Hulk films because of how much Video Game power level Hulk has. The comic and video game fans don't understand this. And they never will.
@@summertyme5748 but thats the thing.. prof. Hulk ISNT interesting.
@@summertyme5748 so u want weak characters yeah no thanks comics are far better than this garbage hulk
@@nielsfrederiksen6636 professor hulk is cool wtf 😂
@@toyanthaog5109 you just want silly jokes
Its so sad to see the hulk on this path. To not have a savage hulk more often is a disservice to the character
Agreed
Same. Nothing like having a Disneyfied hulk
Nah Mickey I gotta disagree this is cool cuz it gives us a different side of hulk that requires thought. Even the little bit he discussed with Jen in the first episode says a lot. He’s a man with a target on his back for an accident. He has to remain calm and not be brute because he could literally destroy the world
@@Ballardgeonte yeah no
It's not that bad they is always hope Hulk goes back to being Savage or immortal Hulk they just gotta make she hulk More popular than MCU hulk then let her jion the Avengers so that later off they kill Hulk after he turns hulk and do a live action immortal Hulk movie or tv show with directed by Sam raimi
Explaining why we’re in a awful situation, does not make it any less an awful situation.
Not with that attitude
They have to balance the characters in live action. EVERYONE has been nerfed. No one has seriously physically beat anyone in the MCU. Cry and go read comics. They have to be able to tell a story. Hulk punching and ripping everyone apart is not the story they want to tell. Captain Marvel and Thor being OP is not the story they want tot tell. Stop complaining and just accept it.
@@TubeWatcher ya characters have to be nerfed or else these movies would be A LOT shorter lol imagine hulk, captain marvel, and thor were all at full strength all teamed up against thanos at the beginning of infinity war bro it would've been over before the Avengers title card appeared
@@TubeWatcher I think you’re mistaken, I accept how things are just fine, but my wallet does not.
Can always make him stronger through a story ark. Nerfs even in comics are typically momentarily kinda things
Really momentarily? World War Hulk was 5 issues...what has he been doing in the other 500+ comic book issues, surly he hasn't been killing Marvel characters in every one of them.
@@TubeWatcher ... just talking about the power nerf. Not what he's currently doin. That has little to nothing to do with it. He was in control when world War hulk happened events happened out of revenge. But with the years of training the mcu hulk has done to suppress his power can be changed in a future story returning him to full power when and if he decides to stop trying to suppress them. All I'm saying is we can still see an overpowered hulk in the mcu maybe even stronger then any other movie.
So Marvel actually admitted the reason for Hulk's nerfing is lazy and bad screenwriting?
Yeah, I could've told you that back at Endgame.
I want them to
Delve into the multiple personalities and the stuff with his dad and maybe just maybe they’ll let the devil out
That's what I'm talking about
Hopefully he reverts to Savage Hulk by the end of the series
That would be awesome but I'm keeping my hopes on the floor. I don't wanna be hopeful then be disappointed ya know
I think the Sakarran ship will trigger him.
Now someone should explain why they nerfed Clint Barton in Hawkeye show
It never ceases to amaze me how this guy can find a reason. “It’s in the comics it’s ok”
like the comics they take this stuff from isn't bad in the first place there's a reason prof hulk isn't asked for or brought up
He defends a lot of shit. People who were bitching about Thor 4 and he targeted the haters.
No that’s not Excuse You need to respect your Fanbase of that character writ in why is the character weaker Show why you’re not as powerful justified them being weak that’s the least you can do put it in the story make it make sense
IMO the 2008 Hulk would NOT have joined the Avengers. He would have helped in fighting Thanos Army IF he was in the mood and afterwards he'd tell the Avengers to stay out of his way
They messed up the hulk when they recast the character could’ve stuck with Ed Nortons hulk instead of having the hulk looking like the actor.. the hulk isn’t supposed to be like Bruce Banner cause that’s basically what MCU did
Look I didn’t mind Smart Hulk in EndGame. But I don’t want this to be Hulk from now on. Don’t wanna see a smart Hulk vs Wolverine movie.
Obviously that wouldn't happen. I think it's pretty obvious he will Hulk out when necessary and that the writers will often throw things at him and She-Hulk so they aren't always in the smart hulk form.
Hulk vs Wolverine would not be made into a film. A film requires a story.
@@TubeWatcher they already made a thor vs hulk and hulk vs wolverine with a story already
@@retronerds6884 They have 80 years worth of comic stories so why doesn't Superman have a film that goes beyond the origin story? Films are not comic books, world building is necesary. Without a believable script, it's not happening.
@@TubeWatcher doesn't Superman return and Superman 2&3 go beyond the origin story hell bvs goes beyond the origin story wolverine vs hulk can be done weapon x hunting the hulk fucking 💥
To label everyone who dislikes their contrived choice "fan boys" is as weak as the contrived choices...
It's bad writing. The channel guy can say whatever they want, it's still BAD WRITING!
Nortons hulk was The Hulk, even Mark's hulk was pretty decent in the start. Now it's just green Mark Ruffalo that's a little buff.
Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets that’s really why his power fluctuates
What’s bs is how the radiation from the infinity gauntlet was gamma should have powered him instead of depowering him was straight bs !
Yeah, Marvel has been doing that for pretty much all their characters for years now.
Remember when Vision entered the scene in Age of Ultron ? He's powered by an infinity stone, can dematerialize himself, access the entirety of Internet, shut such a powerful entity such as Ultron from accessing it, fly, super force, shoot laserbeams from his head, wield Mjolnir... etc... Everybody felt he instantly became the most cheated character of the entire MCU. What happened when the Russos got to him ? Civil War : Complete bum, unable to resist Wanda's powers even though he's supposed to be able to phase in and out of reality, and his laser beam is somehow slower than Falcon's flight wings, so he can miss his target and shoot allies instead of foes ("I was... distracted..." Like, really ? an Infinity stone powered walkind and talking quantic computer that can process informations infintely faster and deeper than any human brain could ever hope to ?). And let's not even talk about Infinity war, which was really painful to watch, to see him just become a walking (not even flying) Mcguffin.
Dr. Strange : When his first movie came out, I felt like, ok, all the other MCU characters can now go home and eat ice cream, this dude, who just time-looped one of the most powerful beings in all the dimensions is more powerful - and smarter - than any of the other characters we've seen in the MCU.
What happened with Taika and the Russos ? Gag character, then defeated while not using once his greatest weapon (as Thanos himself mentioned) that helped him defeating Dormammu.
Hulk... well, you all know what happened with Hulk.
Starting to think that for all the greatness that Infinity war and Endgame gave us, the Russos are just simply not that good with broken power levels characters, as they are much more the type of "grounded" storytelling directors (as demonstrated in Winter Soldier and Civil War), with heavy storylines with drama, tension, and a certain level of grit and realism, which obviously don't gel well with characters like Vision, Thor, Hulk, and Dr.Strange, whose power level are of cosmic levels. If anything, they are to blame for the overall poor direction that Dr Strange, Vision, Thor and Hulk have been taking on for these past few years.
While I liked Professor Hulk a.k.a Smart Hulk I would have also enjoyed seeing Hulk and Thanos having a rematch of sorts in the finale of Endgame. Nerf or not we were due a rematch of sorts.
Russos aren’t really fans of the hulk. I remember in a old interview they said it but I can’t find it anymore.
The Hulk is the strongest there is! I didn't like the way they weakened him in the Avengers. For true marvel fans it wasn't realistic that the hulk could be beaten so easy. It's sad that they went in that direction.
I love the Hulk one of the best characters I would love to see the hulk to take on Wolverine. One of the best story arcs between the Hulk versus Wolverine.
Why not have worldbreaker, he’s smart but also one of the most powerful beings on earth
^ Superman. (and with no Kryptonite) What an original concept. Gauranteed to make successful films that everyone loves. Ask DC.🤣
@@summertyme5748 mos wasn't bad so you have to be talking about superman returns but even then that movie had it's up
Just because it happens in the comics doesn't mean it's good, because comics can also suck. Look at One More Day for example.
The madder the Hulk gets, the stronger (and faster and more durable) he gets, and there has never been a limit to how angry the hulk can get. In other words, you can nerf the Hulk and still have him struggle to eventually reach the power
Levels he's normally capable of. You just need people who understand the comics to write for him.
And Cap Marvel struggled? Right, that's why Brie Larson was bragging and and the Russos claimed she was the most powerful avenger? Hahahahahaha!
She should have been able to beat Thanos with her pinky....she didn't....AKA they nerfed her too
@@eijentwun5509 they still had her pulling feats that the Hulk hasn't in the movies. I'm pretty sure in the comics Thanos doesn't fear Cap Marvel, but he has expressed some concerns about facing the Hulk
I think the moral of this interview is that writing is hard, and it’s especially hard when you’re writing for OP characters.
No excuse👿 could have tried to slowly turn him into joe fix it grey hulk with Hulk trying to fight it and Bruce de-powering himself some out fear. Try something😤
Good suggestions I think works for a solo film.
This is LITERALLY like if Steven Spielberg explains why he decided to switch JAWS from a Great White shark to an ANGRY Flounder
What a poor example. 2008 Hulk destroyed a bunch of buildings and military equipment, he only fight one guy. You complain but I bet you couldn't tolerate multiple films of the same re-run.
Out of the 500+ comic books written under Hulk, World War Hulk was a 5 issue series because total domination, while cool to read, leaves nothing else to write about.
Because it helps she hulk look even better
The Russos didn't know what to do with Hulk? There is that pesky thing called source material which they could have researched.
just power up the villain. you don't need to nerf anybody. just don't get to superman vs Zod destruction fighting level.
Which was also piss poor writing. Clark's cells had 30 years to absorb the strength of our yellow sun. Zod and crew had 30 minutes of yellow sun nourishment. Clark's speed, strength and invulnerability would have overwhelmingly defeated them without the loss of life and property damage. Superman would never have allowed such destruction.
I hope marvel brings back Savage Hulk at the same time Intelligence as well
Put him in a position where he has to beat someone and let him loose again.
Hulk was my son favorite character but after seeing him get disrespected by Thanos he moved to Miles Morales LOL! Justice 4 HULK
Ah we need back the Hulk for real bro..this Smart Hulk I get totally Get but .The Last time we seen him is When he Told Banner ...NOOOOOOoo...They Said ENDGAME had six hours of footage..love to see the process of How Hulk Became Smart Hulk ..how DID he Do it ??
This is dumb, smart Hulk was a logical evolution for the character. We’ve seen a lot of regular Hulk already & they make it clear Bruce still has the 2 personalities in there, so if they need the Hulk personality they can easily bring him back
I don't understand why people like to tout the MCU hulk as a mature take on the character like like it hasn't been done before. In my opinion it's been done a lot better than 2003 Hulk movie. It's not perfect but it establishes how we got his powers and where his trauma stems, and his struggle to keep the hulk part of him under control. A big part of what makes the hulk interesting is the internal struggle between banner and hulk, now that they made him professor hulk he just isn't that interesting anymore. Maybe eventually they'll give him a standalone movie to establish his origin, I think that'll be nice.
Gentleman hulk needs to be smashed🥊by red hulk and wake up the monster
I didn't even think of the comic Civil War thing! Lol
I enjoy Professor Hulk but i hope by the end of She Hulk: Attorney At Law he goes back to OG and sets up The Incredible Hulk 2, Hope to get that Announcement And She Hulk Season 2 at D23.
I need a better Hulk.
That explanation doesn't make sense. They already showed at the beginning of Infinity War that Thanos can beat Hulk, so there was no need to nerf him after that fight.
If world war hulk does happen we gon finally get old hulk back
They nerfed Thor too. They somewhat redeemed him in Infinity War only to screw him over again the next movie.
It gets boring pretty fast, when you have a character who can't be beat. Plus there is nothing to say that smart Hulk can't reverse to angry Hulk. We saw a little bi of it, as the result of the car crash.
When was this hulk ever unbeatable 😂 he’s lost to everyone and now he’s just a scientist.
I love smart hulk and she hulk explain why hulk doesn’t want be a monsters anymore.
I think he will become *Professor* Hulk by the end of the series, as they dropped the fact that the name 'smart' is kind of silly and he didn't choose it. And I agree - he's an interesting character. MCU needs to not cave in to the kids who basically want a CG- which might as well be King Kong or Godzilla. Quick - name the *actor* who plays Kong or Godzilla??? You can't.....
Marvel has now nerfed Hulk, Vision, Thor, Dr. Strange in quick succession.. it’s just a bit much
Hulk is not nerfed. In She Hulk, he through a boulder into the atmosphere. That's more powerful than anything we've seen Hulk do up to this point. Less uncontrolled aggression does not translate into being weaker necessarily. As for Vision, his power level never changed. He got jumped from behind once in Infinity War in human form. He has been incredibly powerful every other time. Thor also has been incredibly powerful. His power level never changed. Now of course, there is some inconsistency in power leveling. Characters have been depicted as more powerful during crossover events than they are in their own solo outings on occasion. That or they're written out entirely. Hulk couldn't be in Infinity War because he could tip the scales in favor of the Avengers in the battle and Thanos may not have succeeded.
Wanda got killed off in Infinity War because they had to nerf her for Endgame. Captain Marvel got written out of most of Endgame due to her power level. She got that treatment because she wasn't as important as the main leads. That would have happened to one of the main Avengers if they were secondary characters. I think the main takeaway is that Marvel hasn't had any real female powerhouses until Captain Marvel and Wanda who came in so late game that they didn't get to be focuses of the Infinity Saga finale. The main characters fluctuate more in power because they get paired off with so many different types of enemies. Let's not forget how much they nerfed Wanda in WandaVision and Dr Strange though. Wanda in Endgame almost defeated Thanos. Also What If nerfed Captain Marvel when Thor was able to beat her without using Stormbreaker.
Just like the comics, the MCU is going to be super inconsistent with power levels.
@@datguy3581 Bruh the Russo bros just admit that they did nerf the Hulk. You can't dodge this.
@@username-ew1de Perhaps he was powered down a bit but you can't have a fully powered up Hulk in those movies because that would make him too powerful in comparison to the other Avengers.
I would say they will get his powers right by the end of the this series I think skarr will be a big impact on the hulk to go back to ramping hulk
Lol armin talking about "Hulk fighting the sentry and holding his own". Hulk has literally defeated the sentry... Hulk is way stronger.
Also the Russos were clueless with the Hulk and knew nothing about him.
She Hulk had a good start but I'm still kinda worried about next episodes
The goodness might not last but I'm still hoping for the next good episodes
I'm mostly worried what there gonna do with Daredevil and it's scary
I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was. I noticed some feminist tropes, but nothing egregious; except, maybe all the She-Hulk better than Hulk bits. Not sure how I feel about that yet. It played well in the episode, so it's a pass, for now. We'll see if that holds in the future episodes, though.
@@trueLuminus but she's not better . She says he is but he makes it clears that she's just different. It's made clear he's much stronger than her and when they're fighting Hulk isn't really trying to the very end.
Just being able to balance better and be calmer doesn't make her better.
This was an extremely comic accurate first episode
@@travisrose9716 "This was an extremely comic accurate first episode" Uhm, no. She-Hulk is supposed to be a milder version of the Hulk. This is why I said they played with the idea of her being better (or played well). They have Smart Hulk say she's not better, just different. Then the show proceeds to SHOW US that She-Hulk is better. There's that cardinal rule for writing. Show don't tell. It doesn't matter that Smart Hulk threw a boulder into the atmosphere when after that you have a series of shots SHOWING US how much better She-Hulk is. It took 15 years for Banner to get the Hulk down pat. She-Hulk gets it in one day. Banner struggled with the Hulk for 15 years. She-Hulk has 0 struggle with it and can change back and forth at any time. The list goes on and on. These are valid criticisms of the show. But like I said, I enjoyed it. However, it remains to be seen if they can simply entertain us instead of constantly implying "man bad, woman better." Women don't like it when men say they're better. Guess what, men don't like it when it's done to them, either. Strange.
2008 hulk was so much better in looks design and just overall cooler and scarier
It's not that we want to see him smash all the time it's the fact that he had a shitty character arc
All you had to do was unleash “the hulk” in the final battle shit play around with the idea that he’s in a blind rage that he just now attacking everyone shoot play around with the fact that the stones got split up in the battle field so different people on each side are using the stones to their advantage to collect all of them…endgame had so much potential and opportunities they didn’t go for
Didn't they show him throw a boulder into orbit? I just assumed he's holding back because he has the sense to do so now. What was he supposed to do smash his cousin to pieces?
He doesn't want to fight anyone. Same as Bucky.
Rip masculinity it's a wrap on that. They needed him to make captain marvel look like a god.
When you have a character with god-level powers, of course you're going to Nerf them. It's a reason why Thor and Hulk were absent from the events of Civil War.
we have seen enough of smart hulk. it's time for him to turn on his savage mode. it's been a long time since I saw a good and powerful hulk in incredible hulk
This who professor hulk is getting anyone I miss the old hulk
Episode one of She-Hulk provide that the ‘Hulk’ persona is still inside Banner and it doesn’t seem like he’s all that afraid to let him out. They end up in a grudge match and Banner in Smart Hulk form growls and roars like the more primitive and savage Hulk use to. I honestly don’t think we’re getting that Hulk back though. I think the merge of him and Banner is permanent. But that doesn’t mean that Smart Hulk can’t lose control and become more like Savage Hulk.
He could become Maestro
@@connorthegambitgaming that would be a dope arc to delve into for hulk but idk if they would do it
The fact that the Russo Bros didn't want to do much with the Hulk is very lazy and disappointing. There are plenty of great comic book moments from the Hulk that could have been used in both Avengers films but instead they just decided to ignore it and direct something that's totally the opposite of what the character truly is. JUST LAZY.
The Hulk hasn't been the hulk since age of Ultron maybe a little in thor ragnarok
*TOLD YOU, FOOLS!* Every time I said that the Russo's hated the Hulk, I got attacked. Now that they admit it, what'cha say now, huh? *_HUH?!?_*
I miss old hulk man . Thanos made feel like when you have a fight wish you fought harder. We need hulk
Pretty lame excuse from the 2 stooges. It's just called lazy and bad film directing. They could have balanced all of the marvel characters in power, without nerfing anyone. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby have been doing it for years, in a freaking comic book. LOL.
People just need to accept that just because it isn't what they wanted, doesn't mean it's bad. Iron Man 3, the new Hulk, ect.
No comic book character is stronger than the plot ! For the plot is strongest they is and it will Nerf anyone And anything in it for it's sake.
MCU has ruined the Hulk. It's really bad what they've done and are doing.
i think the biggest thing that held hulk back in the MCU is production rights, he really deserved his own trilogy along side the OG 3 and if he had his own movies the story would flow a lot better, they wouldn’t waste the planet hulk storyline and thered be more depth for the character, the most we can do now tho is dream and hope they redeem him somehow
As much as the Russo brothers helped the MCU, they absolutely MURDERED the hulk, he was out of action in Infinity War, And he became horrendous in Endgame, and I can’t ever forgive the Russo brothers for murdering the hulk.
I think he originally was sappose to be in infinity war since there was a Funko pop of the Hulk busting out of the Hulk Buster armor for infinity war that Funko made
This isn't new Armin.
let's not forget Hulk had the second biggest moment in Endgame. The snap that matched Thanos in terms of power.
But the Black Order had a Hulk on their team, Cull Obsidian! Instead they had Bruce in the Hulkbuster fight him... Why didn't they do that battle?.. it reminded me of X-Men 3 when you had Colossus and Juggernaut in the same movie but they didn't fight... He had one fight and that was against Thanos right at the beginning... And everybody was anticipating a big rematch... It's clear they was setting up a battle between Hulk and Cull though. And for some unknown reason they changed it to Bruce in the Hulkbuster... Cull Obsidian is insanely strong and it wouldn't have been easy for Hulk! So there's no reason not to have done it... I mean he could have at least hit somebody at least once or had a fight with someone even if it was a short fight...
Also is not just Hulk. Vision didn't really put up a fight... They took out Captain Marvel which also upset fans, because at the end of Infinity War when Nick Fury signal her, it implied that she was coming help out, be important... The Russo Brother decided against it...
And are people forgetting Fat Thor that also angered fans?
Bottom line is the Russo brothers don't know how to handle powerful characters. Give them street-level characters the world's their oyster.
But you could never give them a Superman or Black Adam movie ..
Should have listened to Norton...
There is more to the hulk than just savagery he has layers you know
He’s a very nuanced and complex person
With feelings
Avengers assemble taught me that
The real Hulk died after 2008. Yes he was good in the first Avengers movies but still not the same…
Guys it's really not that bad I believe the reason we getting she hulk now is because they want She hulk to take Hulk's spot on the Avengers team and turn hulk into the next MCU villain kill him off then have him ressurected for an Immortal Hulk Tv show or movie am most likely wrong but hey this is how I would make hulk incredible again if I was planning the future MCU movie plots .
Hate what they've done to our beloved Hulk 😪
It's the reason I stopped watching Marvel movies and shows. How do you nerf the Hulk? His Power is destruction is what he's known for. Could have made him go savage in Infinity Wars...nope they make him Bruce banner in an Ironman Hulk Buster suit. After that and Endgame with fat Thor. I gave up on Marvel. Almost all of their solo movies and shows sucked. They are highly overrated. They just stopped caring about putting out quality movies and shows. Professor Hulk in the comics wasn't this nerfed. I call the MCU Version of Hulk "The Incredible Simp" especially after seeing that She-Hulk trailer...I'll pass thanks.
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Why not just make thanos stronger....
Mcu hulk is all happy go lucky goofy guy instead of the monster he's supposed to be
Didn’t know what to do with him??
Let him do what he does best!!! Smash!
Didn't know what to do with him? Weak answer. But as we can see in She-Hulk, he is still just as strong.
Because they didn't know what to do with him? Really? Wow! I guess they need to hire some competent writers that know the comic book history of the Hulk. BTW Superman (DC) and the Hulk both share a common weakness - magic. Also there was a meeting of the Hulk and Superman way back when in one of the giant comic books, they need to go back and read that also. The Hulk is my favorite of all Marvel characters and there is not a single Hulk movie or movie Hulk has appeared in that gives him justice. There are some really good comic book episodes that showed the inner goodness and gentleness of the Hulk in how he deals with the weak and the innocent. How about putting that into a Hulk movie. BTW the Banner/Hulk merge I hate, I can't stand Banner, the only depiction of Banner that was palatable was by Bill Bixby on the TV, the only Banner I liked, otherwise I hate Banner and don't want him to have any screen time.
Why Nerf these characters.
I didn't care for the nerfed The Hulk and girl power is fine, but when it seems to say females are stronger than males (which seems to happen all the time in modern cinema) I don't like it much at all.
Aw! Does it hurt your feelings? *mock crying*
@@danparedes1852 Dude? Really
And yet for the entire history of storytelling, we see a message that we're stronger than women. That's not any better, and it's been going on for thousands of years.
@@stevenseufert2520 bc we are
Also the girl power is absolute cringe especially when that’s rlly all phase 4 is
Yeah, this happens all the time in the comics for exactly the reasons that the Russo bros. pointed out. I don’t have any problem with the Smart Hulk. I wish we’d get more of the wit like the character had during Peter David’s run.
Thank you. Peter David spoke about all the same hate that he got when he created Professor Hulk. How the fans say they want stories and change,when many of them really only want repetittion and hate change.
Yeah batman kicked him in the nuts
everyone complaining about hulk being nerfed like loki isn't the most nerfed villain.
hulk, thor, doctor strange are the most nerfed heroes and loki is the most nerfed villain
Well what do you know the answer was bad writing all along
No excuse for weakening the Hulk
Universal owns Hulk not Marvel , as long as Universal owns Hulk , he will be nerfed until he's back with The MCU .
bruh no ne is getting it what armin is evening trying to say
This will never make sense to me idc what their reasoning is, hulk has always been 1 of my favorite marvel characters but come on, i feel like its just the writers/directors or who ever being lazy. I understand hulk has seemingly limitless power n can go toe to toe with any1 but that doesn't mean you nerf him so bad that he literally doesn't want to smash any more. They went comic accurate with so much but not with the strength of one of marvel popular characters smh
I mean he's still really strong in she Hulk he showed it a few times
@@j4ckpsych0_54 hell yea they redeem him a lil bit
S'wol hulk
If you’re mentioning an interview, show the damn interview instead of blandly explaining it
i think its a good i dea unlike superman in the dceu thats why it did made a success