First Time Reaction | Bittersweet Symphony (The Verve & Ren)
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The Verve's 'Bittersweet Symphony' is one of Lead vocalist Richard Ashcroft's finest compositions, along with 'The Drugs Don't Work' 'Lucky Man' and 'Sonnet' he's an immensely talented songwriter, and storyteller from the North of England.
Great reaction, fair play to Ren's version but The Verve's original version is in a different league in my opinion, the anthemic quality raises it, but that maybe a generation thing. I would recommend checking out more Verve/Richard Ashcroft (lead singer of The Verve) songs. The Drugs Dont Work, Lucky Man, Sonnet, History, This Thing Called Life, Check The Meaning. Richard Ashcroft is one of the most underrated singer/songwriters
"Bitter Sweet Symphony" is based on a sample of a 1965 orchestral version of the Rolling Stones song "The Last Time" by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra
Yes you’re correct. Beat me to it
*Correct. THE VERVE added strings, guitar, percussion and vocals. They obtained rights to use the "Last Time" sample from the copyright holder, Decca Records, but were denied permission from THE ROLLING STONES' former manager, Allen Klein. Following a lawsuit, THE VERVE relinquished all royalties and THE ROLLING STONES members Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were added to the songwriting credits. In 2019, ten years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to THE VERVE's songwriter Richard Ashcroft.* 🎵💿🔊
@@NicholasCorvin thanks wikipedia
@@NicholasCorvin Following the legal decision, Ashcroft nailed it: “This is the best song Jagger and Richards have written in 20 years"
I can’t think of a video I wash of yours that you are more beautiful than in this. And please, I do you want to explain, I am not talking about a physical beauty, (which, yes, you are kind beautiful) but more so in the sense of your understanding, your appreciation, and you take-away of your understanding/love of both of these tracks
Very clever idea, to react to the two songs side by side! I'm here for it.
Ren always pays homage to the original material with his retakes, but then goes completely in his own direction.
Please, more double reactions!! 😄❤
the guitar player from the verve like Ren retake so much that he sent him one of his guitar autograph
Indeed, he did.!! The biggest nod you can get.!!👌👍✌️🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
Yes, but, it was the bassist though. The bass guitarist sent him his bass.
@@drum253for further clarification, the Verve bassist, Simon Jones, sent Ren a 6-string electric guitar.
@@ChrisLawton66 Ah, OK, I thought it was a bass he sent.
Yes, there’s a really cool video of him and un-boxing that guitar
The woman who gets out of the car and starts yelling at him is his wife
Looks kind of like Kate but I don’t think it’s her.
The video itself is inspired by Massive Attack's "Unfinished Sympathy", which is most definitely worth a check out.
Oh yeah! I had completely forgotten that. Well remembered.
The Verve’s Northern Soul album is outstanding. Richard Ashcroft the singer has some great solo work too.
Congrats on the 50K Stacey. The Verve album "Urban Hymns", from which this song is taken was originally being recorded as a solo project for Richard Ashcroft (the singer). He got cold feet part way through the making of the album and called the rest of the band in to help him finish it. The rest, as they say, is history. You should check out other songs from this album, as it has a few very good ones. I think perhaps "The Drugs Don't Work", or "Lucky Man" would be to your taste.
Please don’t apologize for your tears your genuine emotions are beautiful
You might recognize this song from the movie Cruel Intentions, with Ryan Phillipe, Reese Witherspoon, Sarah Michelle Gellar, and Selma Blair. This was the song they played during the final scenes. Not sure if you've seen it, but if not, i HIGHLY recommend it!
Lucky Man by The Verve is a good song.
You're wrong, it's a great song ✌️
And the drugs don't work aswell
And Sonnet also for sure 😊
Velvet morning is my favourite.
Oh my, I do love this concept of multiple versions of a song. I'd love to see you do something similar for A-ha's "Take on me" since their MTV unplugged version is so radically different (but hauntingly beautiful) compared to the pop version.
Having said that, The Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony" is a classic in my book. I enjoyed Ren's take on it as well.
The Verve were a very good band, The Lead singer Richard Ashcroft had a very good solo career, well worth a listen
I’m British and the Verve are one of our greatest bands ever . I used to work for Liam Gallagher at Pretty Green and meet Richard a good few times , lovely bloke . This song brings back so many memories 😊🙏 🇬🇧.
The term British and Britain are massively older than anything to do with the English establishment and it's UK creation. .... The very word Britain comes from the old welsh... meaning 'land of painted ones'
@@penderyn8794oh ok mate 😆 thanks for that 👍🏼
@@Finny14754 🤣😂🤣
Movie: Cruel Intentions
The number is from the album "Urban Hymns" which is in the top 100 albums of all time. Very much worth a listen.
This song or the musical part is familiar because it was used in countless different movies and t.v shows. It was originally in the movie soundtrack for the movie called cruel intentions. It's an iconic song that it's been called one of the greatest rock songs ever created by the billboard music charts. Unfortunately the lead singer of the verve passed away not to long after this song was released so he didn't get to see how iconic this song actually became.
Still very much alive buddy
Great selection. Very much like the approach you took here with the two versions. Grew up listening to the Verve original, so I shall always be partial to that one. Would call it a masterpiece. Arguably the song of the 90's, raw, visceral lyrics & all. As an aside, you should see the 1996 movie 'Cruel Intentions' if you have not already. The end of the movie has 'Bittersweet Symphony.' A great use of the song in accordance with the story.
This is why you're the best. Love that you did both reactions together. Keep it up!
Tbh I think this song has aged really well, I was a teen when this came out and relistening to it now and understanding the lyrics now it is what life feels like these days for sure
Ren’s retake is a love letter to Britain and the city. It reminds we of Waterloo Sunset.
I love that Rens retake is in Brighton City ❤
Great idea, Stacey. You should do this with all of Rens retakes.!! I can't believe no one else has even thought about it.!!!
Get on it before the others do.!!
And don't forget getting your sister in on it as well.!!
❤❤🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧👌👍✌️😁😁🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
One of the better songs coming out after grunge. It was produced by Youth of Killing Joke and The Firemen (with Paul McCartney). You could do some darker/gothic songs I think you would like, like The Killing Joke's Love Like Blood, This Corrosion by Sisters of Mercy, The Cure's Lullaby, or anything by the Cocteau Twins (I wonder what you would think of Liz Frazer's voice :)). Depeche Mode (then you will hear where Rammstein got their ideas from) would also be something you could like and get into, especially their Black Celebration album.
But what I recommend you should do next: the whole Animals LP by... clear, Pink Floyd. For a lot of people one of the best albums ever made - like Supertramp's Crime of the Century or The Beatles' Revolver.
True Story
My daughter took her first breath 13 years ago to the Verve bittersweet symphony
The intro was playing
It was a playlist of my wife’s with a bunch of our favorite songs.
I’m a 2 year Ren fan & this was a perfect years later retake of a song that was omnipresent in a perfect moment of my life & Ren done gone & made it relevant in a different way.
Hi Stacey from England! You must listen to the Verve album 'Urban Hymns' which this track is from. So many late 90's anthems on it. You are right. All the band members join Richard Ashcroft at the end (who lives not far from me, although originally from Wigan, in NW England). I love your facial expressions during the reactions. Oh, and your beautiful eyes.......and cats! ❤
7:59 Ren's "RENdition"...😄
Great idea to do an original and a cover in one video! Stroke a genius!
its not even an original by the verve. Bitter sweet symphony was a Rolling Stones instrumental track and the Verve put the lyrics to it many years later. other fact the Verve never made a single penny from that song as every penny went to The Rolling Stones in royalties for using their music.
@@markleitch9932 Andrew Oldham Orchestra
It's great to show both versions 😅
Again I loved your music videos, again I love your reaction, again I love your personalit... 🙂
Richard Ashcroft was given the rights to this song back and is now credited as the sole songwriter,he took an unknown instrumental piece and turned it into a masterpiece,loved and appreciated all over the world.
Cat in the background just Staceyflix and Chilling 😂 great analysis.
You really should hear the full album version from The Verve, it’s got a longer buildup and packs more of a punch. The live rendition from Glastonbury 2008 is also great
The verve. Considered one of the best written songs. Richard Ashcroft
From the absolute classic album Urban Hymns believe me it is a BANGER. The drugs don't work will get you in floods of tears and Velvet Morning will too please check out this album it is one of the Greatest albums ever made full stop.The Verve
The drugs don't work by
the verve is a beautiful song
2 other suggestions: Hurt by nine inch nails covered by Johnny cash. And zombie by the cranberries with a tribute by bad wolves
Really like the formula of the original followed by the retake. The Verve seemed to like his retake as well as their bass player, sent Ren one of his guitars.
Another Ren retake that this would work really well for is 'Back on 74' by Jungle, followed by Rens Back on 74/Message in a bottle retake.
Richard ❤. I’ve seen him perform live over 10 times and he’s amazing. The verve were great but prefer Richard as a solo, singer..He is headlining a local festival this August and I can’t wait to see him perform again. Listening to him for over 30 years now 💕. Although I do like what REN have done with the song Richard has a coolness that can’t be beat….
Love that you have listened to Iron maiden, one of guitarists lives near me and is such a lovely down to earth guy!
Have you listened to Paolo Nutini, One of the best vocalists ever xxx
The whole of The Verve's Urban Hymns album is a must listen, and it's great.
Since I'm not familiar with The Verve I liked you showing both versions.
Thank you 🙏❤ Stacey ❤ for your The Verve & 🐷 Ren - Bittersweet Symphony double reaction! #ren #theverve #bittersweetsymphony #brighton
If you haven't seen The Verve's Original Music Video, you can't get all of the references Ren makes in this video, so well done Stacey!
The violin section has been used in about a thousand ads. So that's probably where you've heard it before.
good thought the original/cover/retake format.
check The Verve - Lucky Man
Bittersweet Symphony is one of my all time Faves! It is so simple musically but so monumental emotionally. In '97, The Verve's leader, main composer & singer Richard Ashcroft took a small sample from an orchestral version of a Rolling Stones' song, "The Last Time", as the foundation of the song. The usage rights were obtained from Decca Records, but were blocked by Allen Klein, who owned the rights to the original song. Klein was a former manager/lawyer for the Stones. Long story short, the songwriting credits & royalties were taken from Ashcroft & given to Mick Jagger & Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones. The song became a big hit & generated millions of dollars for the Rolling Stones camp. In 2019, Jagger, Richards & Klein's son Jody, who had become head of his now-deceased father's company ABKCO, returned the royalties & songwriting credits to Richard Ashcroft. Jagger & Richards never thought they should own the rights to the song, they simply let the lawyers fight it out. They happily gave the song back to Ashcroft, understanding what it's like for someone to take ownership of their songs away from them. Truly a Bittersweet story.
The Verve & Ashcroft solo have fantastic songs & albums. 2 Verve songs I can recommend are "The Drugs Don't Work" & "Lucky Man".
This is the first time I'm hearing Ren. I know alot of people have been raving about him, but I've been putting off listening to him. HIs rendition of Bittersweet Symphony was ok, I suppose.
Oh Stacey, comparison reactions are always interesting, as long as the originals are respected! 😃👍🏻
Thanks for that added information! I was unfamiliar with the Verve. Only aware that Si sent a rare guitar to Ren and some books in appreciation if hus take on the song. He has also taken a bit of mentorship of Ren with supportive phone calls and advice on the journey Ren will face. I really love that coming together of creatives.
@@francesdoll4039 Si?? 🤷🏻♂️
@@deepermind4884 either Simon Tong or Simon Jones from the Verve. Ren just called him Si.
deepermind, Ren has done a few retakes of classic songs and they have their merits but it is his own original music that makes him something special. He covers a wide range of musical genres and is genuinely brilliant. I don't like every song he has done but the number of songs I love is ridiculous. He is one of a kind
Amazing song and the verve one of the best bands ever period !
He's not happy but he doesn't let the bastard's grind him down.❤
The violins are actually a sample of an orchestral version Andrew Oldham Orchestra, former manager of the Rolling Stones, created from a Rolling Stones song. There was quite a heavy controversy about the song writer credits and finally The Verve lost it and the song was credited to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards of the Rolling stones. Alan Kleine, a former Rolling Stones manager claimed it, as he was the rights owner of the Rolling Stones back catalogue. Some years after he passed away his son, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards ceded it to The Verve again. So the biggest hit The Verve ever had did not pay off for them money wise for quite some years.
The story behind this dispute
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Not on the Ren cover though. Ren remade the soundtrack himself.
so now you should do unfinished sympathy by massive attack,the holy trinity of songs with these two
Do Sonnet next. Beautiful song. 😊
This idea for the video comes from the video of Massive Attacks 'Unfinished sympathy', another amazing track. keep these amazing posts coming😀
The Verve version was in the soundtrack for Cruel Intentions movie.
Stacey, Ren is a punk rocker at heart, 💗🔥🎉
If you've ever seen Cruel Intentions then that could very well be why the music sounds so familiar, the ending of the movie makes great use of the song.
I was wondering how nobody mentioned this at all? Its a great movie and a fire soundtrack indeed.
Me too
I searched till I found this comment 😊
I just started this and stopped, I haven’t heard a single word or review yet except that you’re doing the original video review to compare Ren’s take on it. I love this approach, this is very unique and I think you should make this your own thing. Good luck, I’m going to watch the video now. If I like it, I will subscribe.
Another double play that you might really love is "Hey You" by Pink Floyd, and the new cover by Anti-Nowhere League..
You have to do the Ren Chapters. He put out the first one on Thursday and is releasing one everyday leading up to his new song's video. Today, Saturday was Chapeter 3. But he's telling his WHOLE life and what he's went through. It's so eye opening. Alot of us thought we already knew Ren and his story, but we didn't know anything really. And it's so different seeing Ren nervous and vulnerable as he tells the different stories of his life and his battle with his illness for 8 long years.
ALSO if you watch his video for the song "It's Alright" you'll see him walking out of the apartment that he stopped infront of at the end of this video. But that song "It's Alright" is so absolutely beautiful. Both the lyrics and video. Such an amazing message.
Super reaction, Stacey of two great versions of the same song! It's very British and as you say human, it's life. I'm pretty sure that backing track has been sampled many times, hence your familiarisation with it. I love The Verve and Richard Ashcroft's voice, I was at Live 8 at Hyde Park and Richard appeared with Coldplay and they did this song. Ren, as always, pays homage to tracks and artists he loves, always sprinkling a bit of magic over it to make it (or The Big Push's) own.
the composition for this piecwe was an unconscious copy of a Rolling Stones song.
If you haven't done Power, you should.
Loved the back to back take! Well dun! I love Ren too. This one finally made me a subscriber. Ty and slainte ☘️ 😊 🙏
Hello Stacey, beautiful to say the least, ye the verve are from my neck of the woods, here in Manchester/Wigan, UK. Love this tune.
Great reaction, you should also check out Unfinished Sympathy by Massive Attack.
Such an amazing reaction thank you I would love to see you react to REN big push ‘Precious’ it’s different from most songs he does but very meaningful and beautiful
Nice reaction..I bought The Verve album in 1997 and I still love it 🥰❤
Different kind of music to this but the song title reminds me of an album title by an English band called Thunder, The record title was Backstreet Symphony. Thunder were at their biggest in the late 80s and early 90s but still together doing their thing these days, or they will be once their singer, Danny Bowes, recovers from a pretty bad accident he had, well worth checking out, one of my favourite bands of my teenage years.
This is the only way you should walk in London 🎸😃😂
Great job doing these side by side reactions
The Verve - everyone from the North as soon as they reach London 😊
It's actually a good tune and part of the northern beat.
British music has been dominated by London.
In the north, we had and have our own music and style.
Urban Hymns is one of the great albums, this song is track 1
Brilliant combination to react to, both classics! Ren and Molly McKinna " Penitence " is beautiful and touching.
this song was catapulted into the limelight as prominent in the soundtrack to the movie Cruel Intentions, which was the epitome of the teen movie surge of the late 90's.
Check out this cast:
Ryan Philippe (Crash)
Sarah Michelle Geller (Buffy)
Reese Witherspoon (Legally Blonde)
Selma Blaire (Legally Blonde)
Joshua Jackson (Dawson's Creek)
Sean Patrick Thomas (Save the Last Dance)
Tara Reid (American Pie)
Cruel intensions is an Adaptation of the 18th century letter novel Liaisons Dangereux written by Laclos... There are many movies made, the closet to the ancient subject might be with John Malkovich, Glenn Close, Michelle Pfeiffer, Uma Thurman and Keanu Reeves.
Never heard the Ren version, loved it too!
"Bitter Sweet Symphony" is based on a sample from a 1965 version of the Rolling Stones song "The Last Time" by the Andrew Oldham Orchestra. The Verve added strings, guitar, percussion and vocals. They obtained rights to use the "Last Time" sample from the copyright holder, Decca Records, but were denied permission from the Rolling Stones' former manager, Allen Klein. Following a lawsuit, the Verve relinquished all royalties and the Rolling Stones members Mick Jagger and Keith Richards were added to the songwriting credits. In 2019, ten years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter Richard Ashcroft.
Thank you pleased i have found your channel subscribed😊
I like this song and the music video are different from most songs. The music is upbeat but once you pay attention to the lyrics it's dark. Glad the Rolling Stones eventually gave the rights back after he credited them (abet years later after Allen died).
One of my faves from the 80s new wave type stuff, the Verve hit gold with this great song. Nice reaction as always, I'm partial to the original. How about some U2? Achtung Baby was a killer album and was the launching pad for the massive Zoo TV tour, with multiple screens and feeds, a huge, new, more heavy and industrial sound and killer songs. Try End of the World on Zoo TV live, one of the best stadium performances from prime U2, it is still damn good in 2024. Enjoy! 🎵🎸🎤🎹🎸🎶
Have always liked this the sway good tune
Richard's Songs are amazing ..I would like to set Him in one level with John Lenon ..but I can't..but He is a super..I love a British rock'n'rool :)❤
Yuhuuu!..viva la Ashcroft!..Let's brake the night with color!😊
Trying to narrow down Ren recommendations is almost impossible but I’d love to see you react to ‘How to be Me(Live)’ (with Chinchilla), ‘Dominoes’, ‘Suic*de’ and ‘For Joe’, and then (cos you’ll need cheering up) ‘Humble’, the ‘Love Music’ series and maybe a Big Push performance or two… (war pigs my favourite 😜)
Love the side by side reaction, both amazing track, great videos... Great reaction 👏😘👍
I like the dual video reaction. I absolutely loved when you reacted to both Great Gig in the Sky versions in one video.
the verves 1st 2 albums were mindblowing and DEEP their guitarist is a legend in creating fantastic "soundscapes" heavenly vibes!
I know exactly where you might have hear it. The Rolling Stones song, 'The last Time'. :)
As many times, probably hundreds by now, I've heard the Verve version, don't think I've ever seen the video. Had no idea Ren even retook the walk down the high street! I shouldn't be surprised tho, it's Ren 😂
Love this format tho! Please do all his retakes with the original first! My other 2 fave retakes are losing it (fisher) and back on 74 (jungle). I reeeally wanna see u do both pls 😆 x
Yes great idea❤️now I shot the sheriff by bob and Ren 👍👍👏👏 ps audio on music video needed to be louder on verve ❤️
nothing beats the original im old enough to remember when it came out man good times!
I do love the lyrics in this song, pretty much sums up my life.
Just let you know the Lady who came out of the car is his wife in the video.
Cruel Intentions....the movie, they play it at the end .....best part of the movie 🙂🙂🙂
Irrelevant side fact: „Bitter Sweet Symphony“ is written in the Mixolydian Mode, characterized by a flat 7. It has a more mellow tone than the classic Ionian („major“) Sound (using only the white keys on a keyboard when you are in the key of C) but is still brighter than Aeolian („natural minor“) (using the white keys starting with A).
Mixolydian is a major mode so of course it will sound brighter that Aeolian.
4:16 The 'Violin' or better the orchestral parts are completely taken from Samples, the 'Rolling Stones' had once produced for their own purpose. They are completely canned sounds.
The contrast between lyrical disharmony + musical harmony is precisely a "Bitter + Sweet" Symphony.
I didn't think I would like that ren fellas one.. but I did
Proudly from Wigan in the UK!!! See, it’s not just pies and rugby league!
I love how you say Bri...en, gor blimey, fish and chips and tea, you would make a good Londoner (I was born in London, so i know what i am talking about)
The Verve version has been used in movies this is maybe why it might be familiar to you.
Stacey, please react to "Telegraph Road - Alchemy Live" by Dire Straits.
Volleyball! One of my favourite-to-play sports! (Almost up there with 7 rugged years playing full-contact Canadian 3-down injurious football.) ... And, this is a great tune! 🤗
I love your using of a BARD (a storyteller)