Why Family Courts Fail Protective Mothers & Children: 20 Common Mistakes in Evaluations Judges Miss

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  • čas přidán 4. 04. 2022
  • Most people including court professionals are unaware that family courts are getting most domestic violence custody cases wrong. There is now a specialized body and knowledge of research (ACEs & Saunders Study) that can help judges recognize and respond to domestic violence and child abuse. This knowledge was unavailable when courts developed their response to domestic violence.
    Family courts have been unwilling or unable to create needed reforms based on the highly credible scientific research now available. The courts turn to mental health professionals as if they were the experts in domestic violence. Barry and Veronica will discuss 20 common mistakes in evaluations that lead to harmful and tragic outcomes. In discussing evaluators' mistakes, the webinar will explain how the courts get these cases so painfully wrong.
    Presented by Barry Goldstein and Veronica York

Komentáře • 84

  • @alyssadrennon2390
    @alyssadrennon2390 Před 11 měsíci +18

    I could cry, this video just took my experience right out my mind. I’ve been suffering and feeling so lost, confused. It’s really nice hearing what actually happened to me instead of being accused of being dramatic. I was left feeling like I should have never mentioned domestic violence incidents or child abuse. I’m being punished for protecting my baby.

    • @bodybounce_bylisa
      @bodybounce_bylisa Před 7 měsíci +2

      I'm in the same boat.

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes exactly. Been over 10 years since I've seen my Kids. He didn't even help raise them.
      My oldest now has even worse life shortening medical conditions. They already had adrenal glands that were blown out. I'm sick over it. Directly caused by witnessing and growing up in abuse

    • @RobynRossReporting
      @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

      @alyssadrennon2390 the difference between what they’re saying or what they said in this video from two years ago, and I would like to know what their stance still is about educating the judges? because the judges know exactly what they’re doing. It is their intent to the ones being victimized outside of the court. My judge one of the seven (I only met 5) and he was the one who courtnapped my child in 6/2033 awarding custody to our abuser, followed by the next judge who I hadn’t met who issued a fraudulent TRO - followed by our 7th judge who kept that as a TRO up until 1/2024 when he gave my daughter & i a 3 yr sentence of NO-Contact.

  • @sharonmurphy8725
    @sharonmurphy8725 Před rokem +21

    This is a big problem in court and the victim comes off looking like the bad parent while the abuser is laughing at them. My child has a mental health issues due to years of the abuser behaviors towards me and things he has witnessed.

    • @aaishaaa76
      @aaishaaa76 Před 11 měsíci +3

      The worst part this happens on purpose. They know exactly what they are doing and the children suffer the most but they just don't care because the court systems and so called proffessions have loyalty towards the abuser/abusers and protect the abuser regardless of the irreversal damage it causes.

    • @danacheryl
      @danacheryl Před 8 měsíci +1

      Absolutely. I'm right in the middle of my divorce and find that even my own lawyer is evaluating my ability to parent.

    • @danacheryl
      @danacheryl Před 8 měsíci +3

      On some level I stopped caring because I know my worth as a parent but it's really horrible women have to go through this

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Abusers always get custody, if they contest it. If our lawyers were really representing us, they'd advise us properly. But they make more money by dragging it out
      I want to know how many mothers end their lives or simply starve in poverty because of courtroom abuse and heartbreak. Because that should be prosecuted as M*Rd*r with the husband, his lawyers, all the judges, other "experts", the police who failed to help despite repeated calls

    • @RobynRossReporting
      @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

      @danacheryl5538 it won’t be just the attorneys to make it harder to parent children- they also Co-conspire with the other side - And all the money that they’re draining you up could also have gone towards your children. Instead they like to bankrupt you sometimes make you homeless.

  • @sharonmurphy8725
    @sharonmurphy8725 Před rokem +12

    Even when relationships ends it’s never over

  • @christianconservative2227

    it is so hard to prove dv because it is always done in secret and the abuser will always lie

    • @adpchannel-qm2gy
      @adpchannel-qm2gy Před 9 měsíci +2

      Please understand that even when there are criminal convictions for domestic violence, all of that evidence does not matter if there is an agenda already set to reward the abuser and punish the victim. I have evidence that these Professionals lie under oath to pretend they know nothing about criminal indictments and convictions for extreme violence, s*xual assaults, and attempted murder. Again, please understand that Evidence Does Not Matter.

  • @alyssadrennon2390
    @alyssadrennon2390 Před 11 měsíci +9

    How do we fix this, my baby is 6yrs old and cries for me. I feel like I’m dying a slow death. These abusers are still killing his slowly and we are drowning begging for someone to help us.

    • @ClaireHarper-ke8dj
      @ClaireHarper-ke8dj Před 17 dny

      I want to help people, I don’t know where to begin. I have been through similar issues. It makes me sick this is still happening.

  • @adpchannel-qm2gy
    @adpchannel-qm2gy Před 9 měsíci +14

    Could we please do a presentation that addresses how the Evaluators, Judges, and Child Protection Workers do NOT make mistakes in our cases? So many of us have evidence that they know exactly what they are doing as they endanger our children, and some of our evidence includes actual setups where these Professionals abuse their power and they literally set us up and set our children up and lie and scheme to justify trafficking them to our abusers. When can we do a presentation that exposes all of this? I'm concerned that when it's framed as "Getting it Wrong" or "Mistakes They Make", it's just providing these dangerous evil Charlatans with an excuse for their evil actions. The public needs to understand that these Professionals are not "getting it wrong" or "making mistakes". This gives a false sense of security to victims of domestic violence because it makes them believe that "Gee, if only the Professionals were more educated or if they only believed us..." NO! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! THESE EVIL CHARLATANS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY DON'T CARE WHEN OUR CHILDREN DIE AS A RESULT OF THEIR EVIL ACTIONS. 😢😥😢😥

    • @ironbound1984
      @ironbound1984 Před 7 měsíci

      The great object of my fear is the federal judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting, with noiseless foot, and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step, and holding what it gains, is ingulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them.
      -Thomas Jefferson

    • @jupiter.6268
      @jupiter.6268 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Time to put a stop to the ABUSE THEY DO TO A FAMILY BY TAKING CHILDREN AWAY. ITS TRAUMATIC. STRESS BEYOND BELIEF. ALL FOR MONEY!

    • @RobynRossReporting
      @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

      @adpchannel-qm2gy Me included… since I haven’t been able to obtain all of our court transcripts because the court report is are also involved in the fraud- But i do have recordings of the hearings and even tried presenting it to the 7th judge who denied it. As well as the evidentiary codes that allow you to record in a non- 2party state when i was threatened by judge #5 that i could go to jail for recording or worse - incarceration.
      The clerks are also writing falsified, min orders and opposing counsel writing fraudulent FOAH’s and PD writing reports- & withholding evidence. RiCO lawsuits are in order

    • @jupiter.6268
      @jupiter.6268 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Look up SHAWN MCMILLION CIVIL RIGHTS ÀTTORNEY IN CALIFORNIA..HE HAS BEEN SHOWING VIDEOS ON UTUBE HOW HE EXPOSES SOCIAL WORKERS, DRS,Police etc . . Being sued for violating parents rights.he gives me hope.

    • @RobynRossReporting
      @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

      @@jupiter.6268 thank you, i will look him up. Are you also in cali?

  • @WarriorMomma
    @WarriorMomma Před 2 lety +20

    With overwhelming evidence, how can it possibly be, that these courts can continue doing business?? Shouldn't there be a mechanism that can put these courts to a halt and be subjected to a full accounting audit of conduct of the court, under a breach of their fiduciary obligations as trustees of our trusts?

    • @jayanarodriguez8548
      @jayanarodriguez8548 Před rokem +4

      Unfortunately these judges abuse their power of law. They do have power to control and make drastic decisions without properly evaluating cases.

    • @recoveringsoul755
      @recoveringsoul755 Před rokem

      judges are not held responsible for making incorrect rulings. then there are possible bribes, between attorneys or to the judges. The children are the biggest losers in the whole thing, and of course it destroys the life and mental health and finances of the good parent

    • @kingsagenda
      @kingsagenda Před rokem +1

      They are given a lot of discretion and I and millions agree with you that a thorough audit should be conducted in every county on a regular basis.

    • @jenniferc.2514
      @jenniferc.2514 Před rokem +2

      Uncanny, I just watched another webinar (Coercive Control & Children) & commented something similar! 💜✨🙏🏾✨💜

    • @WarriorMomma
      @WarriorMomma Před rokem +1

      @@jenniferc.2514 THIS SITUATION IS OUT OF CONTROL! I do not know about you, but us Mothers, need to stick together, we are the ones that GOD gave the ability to make children. We must not be expected to remain in this servitude to provide children to the world for war fighting that they feel they c an ruin this way. I am determined to change the whole entire system because of their continued ignorance, and luckily , it is in the bible that this goes down this way, and it is in the stars, and that is that. Thank you for the comment, and if you are suffering through the same kind of torture, blessing of strength and light and love, to you and your bab(ies), protection for the love and the truth, protection for you all, and may the army of GOD aid us all in rising to the top of that mountain, where we stand in unity together, having the name of our covenant written on our minds eye; we WILL correct these evils , move forward, so we never have to move back. oHm in.

  • @lab4389
    @lab4389 Před 4 měsíci +3

    My son has a toddler-my granddaughter, whom I got to be part of her life for over a year, and love her so much only to be estranged by my son, whom left the state without even a goodbye, has broken me. 💔 My grief is so heavy some days that I’m not sure I’m going to make it. I don’t know if I have any rights, but I wish I did. 😢

  • @Dowhatsright99
    @Dowhatsright99 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I wouldn’t consider The National Institute of Justice highly credible.

    • @RobynRossReporting
      @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci +1

      I wouldn’t consider any buddy in the judicial system at this point credible- unless they’re a whistleblower speaking up against the corruption

  • @31witches55
    @31witches55 Před rokem +6

    Some people my find the concept of "learned helplessness". To be that someone simply gives up. But in reality, sometimes what happens to someone when they try, becomes more damaging then just enduring the original shock or abuse.
    I did everything you are told. I did leave. I was granted aDV Protection order. But police simply failed to enforce it. In court, all he had to was hint at alienation and no matter what I did or what he did the court assumed I was lying. This was in spite of him having multiple protection order requests from 18 different people in Criminal, family and civil courts. They ignored the fact that the professionally supervising organization spent face to face time with my ex 8 hours a day days a week and were very biased. They punished me by bypassing the law that he could not have primary custody due to his convictions by simply giving him the same time as if he had joint custody even though he had no legal or physical custody. Everything this man says is dead on. The courts ignored the damage he did and allowed him to drag me back to court every year for 15 yrs. I never had a question about my parenting yet they gave him enough time to basically pay penny's in child support. Which had been his goal.

  • @mariahrocks4050
    @mariahrocks4050 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Ty.

  • @valeriasumanmello7278
    @valeriasumanmello7278 Před rokem +2

    Everyone should listen to this

  • @a.l.e.x.a.7.7.7.
    @a.l.e.x.a.7.7.7. Před rokem +12

    They know exactly what they're doing. No one is more demonic than the filth working for this corporation.

  • @TreyHD
    @TreyHD Před rokem +1

    The beginning is the most important part of the work.

  • @frankmatthew8187
    @frankmatthew8187 Před 7 měsíci +2

    My girlfriend of two years is going through a contentious divorce with her abusive narcissist husband of 17 years before we met. Not only was she abused the children had to endure excessive mental abuse so bad the sixteen year old daughter attempted suicide at 13 yo. These children are being further traumatized due to bad litigating on her attorneys part. Massive amounts of evidence overlooked to support the children’s mental state due to their father. Now my girlfriend is between stock and a hard place writing her own order for the court to review because her attorney won’t stand up for her and the children. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    • @domesticshelters
      @domesticshelters  Před 7 měsíci

      www.domesticshelters.org/articles/search?q=child+custody#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=child%20custody&gsc.page=1

  • @jenniferc.2514
    @jenniferc.2514 Před rokem

    ✨🙏🏾✨ Audio was challenging but Thank You! This was good! The Q&A was "great"!💜💙💚

  • @ElizabethCommons-m6x
    @ElizabethCommons-m6x Před 12 dny

    Ky Louisville is notorious for this

  • @winniew7809
    @winniew7809 Před rokem +2

    You are 1000% right. How can I get help.my son 10 years old

  • @RobynRossReporting
    @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

    Until a certain point Ibelieved that they needed to be educated on domestic violence specifically cluster b personality disorders. I stood with Anna when she was trying to get the resolution past back in 2017. Which is now SB 331 Piques law which will never help as many children and mothers as we could if we just help these accountable. It also won’t help the ones still suffering now or have recently been taken from the protective mother who was coerced into reunification therapy and the kind that they made me present to the to go to, and forced back into the hands of our abuser. And all of these mental health professionals know exactly what they are doing, too guess what I recorded all of our sessions and conversations of the clinic with those mental health professionals as well, right of mine was taken away willingly and joyfully because these sick individuals working together love to see people suffer and besides, it’s their livelihood.

  • @weknowcomputertech
    @weknowcomputertech Před 9 měsíci

    How do I get ahold of Barry and Veronica if I want them to evaluate my situation?

    • @domesticshelters
      @domesticshelters  Před 9 měsíci

      You can contact them here: barrygoldstein.net/contact

  • @user-ek9vg8eo1j
    @user-ek9vg8eo1j Před 7 měsíci

    Children with exceptionally high ACE scores have never seen a court room, in many cases

  • @HalleyBylin
    @HalleyBylin Před 2 lety +2

    I'm in King County, WA. The biased GAL sided with the alcoholic husband. The father claimed he couldn't parent because I was controlling. I kept saying he couldn't get out of bed because he drank too much. My son suffered so much and now he is one hot mess. 4 months after the FPP was finalized, the father went to the hospital for alcoholic hepatitis and cirrhosis. Now he is controlling our son with unlimited Xbox, a secret phone, missing school 32 days this school year, and not doing his homework. How can I compete with that? We, as parents, agreed that there would be no Xbox or phone due to his destruction and lack of homework. Then secretly he was letting him play Xbox behind my back and gave him a secret phone. Now my son won't come to my home for the past 9 weeks.

    • @jayanarodriguez8548
      @jayanarodriguez8548 Před rokem +1

      I'm dealing with a similar situation. The father used PS5, boundaries I set in my housedold & a ton of other stuff as leverage against me to parental alienate me out of my sons life. He knew once son turned 13 years old he could use coercive tactics to play son against me. He is also law enforcement. It's a very difficult & delicate situation. I'm sorry you are currently going through this. Its extremely frustrating & painful process. Stay strong and don't give up. You ever need someone to talk to I'm here. Feel free to reach out. I'm currently working on a movement to make change that is way over due in the family court system in all the states. We need more people to come forward in order to make positive change to keep healthy families together. A child needs both parents in his life. As they say it takes a village to raise a child. 🙏

    • @jayanarodriguez8548
      @jayanarodriguez8548 Před rokem +1

      I'm dealing with a similar situation. The father used PS5, boundaries I set in my housedold & a ton of other stuff as leverage against me to parental alienate me out of my sons life. He knew once son turned 13 years old he could use coercive tactics to play son against me. He is also law enforcement. It's a very difficult & delicate situation. I'm sorry you are currently going through this. Its extremely frustrating & painful process. Stay strong and don't give up. You ever need someone to talk to I'm here. Feel free to reach out. I'm currently working on a movement to make change that is way over due in the family court system in all the states. We need more people to come forward in order to make positive change to keep healthy families together. A child needs both parents in his life. As they say it takes a village to raise a child. 🙏

    • @jenniferc.2514
      @jenniferc.2514 Před rokem

      Thurston Cty, WA!!
      The pathogenic terrorist with his corrupt sexual predator representing Atty have manipulated & blame shifted their perjury, deception, & bullying so absurdly that the criminal court & the DA are "criminally-prosecuting" ME! Even had me Arrested & Jailed!
      It's approaching 2 Years since I've interacted with my lil girl!!
      Damn near every Family Court was Ex Parte. Vexatious litigation started in 2014!
      I have a 38 page expert DV Coercive Control with Lethality Assessment putting me, my son, & my daughter at HIGH RISK for Fatality & YET & STILL -- NOBODY MOVES!!??!! WTH! 🤔⌛

  • @corinneconverse6070
    @corinneconverse6070 Před měsícem

    On the topic of unfounded CPS cases, some abusive fathers weaponized CPS just like they do the court. Repeated reports and investigations will be called to try and establish a paper trail and wear down the mother. My abuser called CPS once because I had my son get the free school lunch instead of a Lunchable.

  • @kingsagenda
    @kingsagenda Před rokem

    Grayson's law bill died in the FL Senate March 2022. 😭

  • @geoffg.8091
    @geoffg.8091 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Well this goes bolth ways I'm a father that can't protect his daughter from his ex and there messed up family , while there just piling more hurt on me financially probably rite up untill I take my own life! just remember there's plenty of male victims too and these guys are surely guaranteed to get the shaft.abusers are good at putting all the blame on the ones they abuse

  • @millenials_best
    @millenials_best Před rokem +1

    It is so inappropriate to put all of that on the court system in itself the family court system was not nearly as breeches it is grieges as the department of child safety in the juvenile Justice system that was straight up criminal and it is it is a child's half king ring yeah and the cops have their hands tied too they could get a lawsuit every day of the week just trying to do the right thing the law is no substitute for morality Edward snowden

  • @Dowhatsright99
    @Dowhatsright99 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Why did Barry get disbarred?

    • @domesticshelters
      @domesticshelters  Před 8 měsíci

      barrygoldstein.net/articles/i-lost-my-law-license-others-lost-their-lives-flawed-child-custody-practices-also-hurt-communities

  • @equisetuminc
    @equisetuminc Před měsícem

    Having watched an estate and trust, and tax attorneys plan for a divorce. PreNuptual Agreements, only.

  • @RobynRossReporting
    @RobynRossReporting Před 3 měsíci

    my question for those all in this video do you still believe this? What do you now side with the fact that the family court system is not under educated and is 100% corrupt? 🙏🏼💜

  • @kellyg4112
    @kellyg4112 Před rokem +2

    They should try by running actually background checks! First.

    • @woodspriteful
      @woodspriteful Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, and I am concerned about criminal records being expunged.

  • @millenials_best
    @millenials_best Před rokem +3

    All that money everybody puts into domestic violence shelters will only help women who refuse to do anything about their lives and I'm highly offended being as I've been poor and I've worked hard my whole life I have fallen knees yeah I have a domestic violence it was from my abuser to be honest and I don't say that lightlee I'm not an angel I'm just honest and especially about my kids and I've been taken by the system because I was vulnerable the same way the narcissist was abusing me David Refuse me access to police reports that I need for court that I'm going to I can't find a lawyer to even call me back and he has a lawyer he just got ADY make him false claims I haven't even met my daughter's teacher this year.. With my state health care I'll tell you right now I can't even get any help with my trauma I've only been further traumatized and I mean that by therapist since I was 14 years old. I have successfully completed every program in Mike county in Arizona I'm not a statistic or I'm the very small stitches sick of people who are not just gonna make it through this but could become case log cause I will not gon to give up and I am sick of people not being able to get the help they need because of their criminal record that is not OK I have worked extra hard my whole life and I pay the same taxes as everybody else but I can't get the help that I deserve I'm a single mom I don't Wanna be anything but a single mom and I can't work 2 jobs or then my kids won't have any kind of health insurance or boost your aunt's nothing everybody is stick of poor people. I can't do any more than I do. I don't read poor stuff. I don't think poor things. I am a poster child for "I'm not with them"...... My mom used to tell me when I was younger and I hated it when she said it too but 2 wrongs don't make a right and now that I have kids when I think about their dad I know that my mom was right and saying that because I don't care how much he hurts me I've already made all the mistakes I can make all of them I did that so that now I don't have to make those mistakes but it's been at my children's expense and if we're trying to point fingers here it's time for the system to self destruct because it doesn't work Any system governmentally designed is not going to work you can't get paid to help somebody get better where's the incentive in doing a good job where is the job security. I've rarely seen an adult take personal responsibility in my life even as a child I'm terrified of adults 3rd just overgrown tight children that can't help but to be self serving self revolved and if you have never been poor in destitute desperate dangerous conditions you cannot help people out of that you cannot get into their mind to help them you cannot meet them in their mess you don't even know what it's like the whole system is only meant to harvest pain harvesters of sorrow even the domestic violence shelter is all that through the worst The worst because my case is textbook and there's no excuse I don't stop asking for help people don't get it. I'm responsible for my children, piece of paper regardless. This system is coming down. Divide and conquer. The same dynamic existed in America over 200 years ago. There were orphans everywhere we had war all the time of course but it was much more within our own society then people think people were ripped from each other families were ripped apart there were orphanages everywhere there was child labor and people were committed to mental asylums which were everywhere very large mental asylums not only that all these orphanages shut down Once child labor laws came into effect now I would be willing to put money on it judging by my grandma's memories that the government didn't much care about the broken families lying everywhere. In a society where parents just hand their children over and get strike out on drugs and overdose instead of battling an army of evil I don't know why anybody thinks we have freedom liberty or that they can even define those words correctly. They brought the politics the bipartisan set up to fail no common ground system into our families and thrashes again but now I would have to say they're doing it on purpose cause they should have learned about that you know they used to take people and decide them unworthy retarded due to their genetics here in America World War II. Eugenics. Department of child safety will use genetics to take your kids from you now but they won't do it unless they're going to get a bonus out of it otherwise it's too much trouble especially if it's actually in the child's best interest

  • @millenials_best
    @millenials_best Před rokem

    Domestic violence victims are getting out of a new relationship and realizing that they're with the monster everybody else is an equal participant and I am a CO dependent or whatever you want to call it I don't call myself a victim I can see where I played my part all 11 years and I don't understand why people want to perpetuate weakness. I can't even get help representing myself in my 2nd trial I shouldn't even need help but I have a lot of trauma and executed disorder I also have 9 felonies but I also have 3 years clean and hold out more good stuff than that I'm just saying I believe that the father needs help and I've been trying to help him for a long time I'm not going to turn around and allow a judge to do the same thing but in spite of myself it's inevitable that hes going to get slammed down to the ground If not charged on multiple counts as he and his family are criminals they have been abusing my children Emotionally and sadisticly by involving them in his ploys against me He gets mad at me because I'm not trying to keep an eye on him he has to tell on himself I'm just really annoyed because once you learn about things you can't just learn it because it's right in your face and it's unbelievable how textbook this all is. You knowYou knowSocio demographic issues do not constitute criminal action and why don't they provide you a lawyer when you're a very life essentially your family is on the line and they give you a criminal defense lawyer freely when almost everybody accepts the flea bargain and doesn't even need a lawyer for that at all it's an easy win everybody wins everybody's speeding the profit for pain system and your harvesting children by making this a bipartisan war Man against women or whatever parent against parent it's not parent against parent it's the system against the parents and they need to realize that

  • @johnconrad6065
    @johnconrad6065 Před 2 měsíci +1

    What happens when he is a she?