Modified Taranov Split of Mean Honey Bee Hive
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- čas přidán 4. 03. 2019
- This is the second part of “Dealing with a Mean Hive of Bees.” I decided to try this technique that I have learned of. It is one way of creating an artificial swarm. I modified it from the way it is supposed to be done but it seemed to work fine. Do the bees become more calm during this process? Watch and see.
I am intrigued by the idea of the Taranov Split. Notice that I have entitled this a “Modified” Taranov Split. I did this because I did things a little bit differently but I think the principles utilized are the same.
I do plan on doing a more proper Taranov Split in the future but until then here is a good video showing the process. I had seen this before but someone put the link below in the comments. Thought I would share:
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Thanks for watching. Let me know what you think!
Nothing like a bee march. Simply amazing
If you put a shim or an empty box above the brood box, you can lightly knock frames or even whole boxes of bees into the box below. You squash fewer bees and you don’t get the bees as fired up. In short, slow down and take it a little easier. Thank you for the video 😊
A lot of opinions about requeening/not requeening, but what I took away from it was getting to watch a field expedient way of doing a Taranov split. As a beekeeper, I am always interested in new ideas. Thanks for the Vid.
Been watching several bee keepers this week. So fascinating how you manage thousands of bees!! I eat raw honey nearly everyday, it’s very nutritional! Thanks for your skill in bee keeping. 👍🏻
Unfortunately I don't believe this will fix the mean hive issue. The genetics from the mean Queen will be in the eggs produced by that Queen. Therefore the new queens that hatch will have the same temperament. There definitely was a lot of bees in those boxes though so it was a good thing that you did the split. Thanks for sharing.
Just gonna say I have no idea how i got here on CZcams but i'm glad i'm here. i've only watched this video and the video before this but looking at your channel you seem very experienced and knowledgeable about bees. I've noticed you come back to comments left on older videos and i just want to say i'm sorry at how every single comment seems to think they can do your job better than you. Everyone has different styles of beekeeping and this happens to be your style, like you said you are taking care of a friend's hives and you have to do what he wants to do with the bees. I have never raised bees or been around anyone who raises bees so i don't totally know what you are doing but thank you for explaining things so clearly and not assuming everyone who watches is an experienced beekeeper. thank you for being so patient with some of the incredibly rude and judgmental comments being left.
The best and most practical split method I’ve seen so far, thanks for sharing
I don't understand how this fixes the mean hive problem? Also not a good idea to shake queen cells.
Neat to see this simplified version of taranov....I just did this with a hive that did a test or failed swarm. When they were all in the box I set up the taranov...this is day 3 after this and no more indication of a swarm from the main hive.
Holy cow that box was loaded! I have a similar mean hive I caught from a swarm last year that my more knowledgeable bee buddy helping me wants to re queen this year because they are so tough to work. Have to button all up like that and tape unless you like getting stung. I kind of hate to "off" her since she is so productive . I have a another hive I got from him and and they are super calm, like night and day.
Thanks brucebees for putting yourself out there even including the little misshappenings that happen to all of us in many ways...the "know it all haters" are waaaaay worse than 50.000 stingiest bees. I have only 6 hives but one of them is deadly..they follow my truck up to 1km away and still attack if get out, haha. But they are very productive so I'll keep them around until I can do a split similar to yours in the video.
That hive next to it looks packed too
Nurse bees won't return to the old hive
you are brave putting those frames on top the bees and not knowing where the queen is...thanks for the video..i know its a lot of work when the bees are giving you a run for your money...
Surprising that hive had not already swarmed. Impressive population for sure. Once the bees were in front of the ramp about how long do you think it would take for all of them to march into the new box had you not had to shake them off at the end? I've seen where the queen can be spotted and captured while marching up the ramp and wondered how long the procession might last.
Since the algorithm recommended this to me 2 years after you posted it, I'm wondering how it turned out?
If you had drawn comb available would you add it back to both boxes and how many frames in each box?
Mean hive issues aside, I have to agree with some of the other comments regarding the handling of the bees. Frames with queen cells should never be shaken, especially if you are uncertain as to their age. Without having located the queen, each frame should have been treated as if she were on it. Smashing the brood box on the ground to dislodge bees, not so good of an idea. Otherwise good video. Never be afraid to try something new. Hope the split works well for you and the bees calm down.
Woo, that got'em fired up! Lol Just that made me a subscriber. Lol
In a true Taranov all the frames are supposed to be shaken. The idea is to remove ALL of the bees so that there are no nurse bees in the original stand.