Building My Weird New Drill Press
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2020
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Hey Andy, we use mag-drills a lot in my line of work. Mostly in the field, and often where we need to be aware of the mess that's left behind. Oils are a great lubricant when drilling metals of course, but we have found ourselves using paraffin wax blocks to cool the bit as it is much easier to clean up with the shavings than the mess oils leave. Just a tip and food for thought!
I really love this idea. I’ve wanted a mag drill a handful of times but can’t justify both a drill press and mag drill. But it seems to me it could be optimized better if the mag drill was designed with this functionality in mind. Like design a whole new mag drill and a drill press base to work together seamlessly.
Appreciate the feedback, yes, I can think of some things I'd want to do differently on a MagDrill to optimize it for use on the drill press base, that would be the ultimate.
@@AndrewKleinWW so I Amin the market for a drill press, is anything new in the works? 2700 is a lot for a drill press….
Great! I love the idea of a docking station for portable tools. You could actually have the one drill and two docking stations, one for wood, one for metal.
Thank you for the shout out
Great idea! Simple and brilliant, good combination to solve big problems. Thanks Mr Brainiac, thanks for sharing.
Great video revival of stand!!! Awesome marriage with a mag drill tool. I never thought about making a stand for one of those back in my tool room days! Thanks for sharing!
Hey hey! I'm already familiar with Collin. It's always nice to see these channels crossing paths.
This is a good idea, thanks for posting. I have a mag drill for working on truck bodies and chassis. It would be helpful if I come across a part that is too small for the magnet to attach but, needs to accurate so can't use a cordless/corded drill
The concept is phenomenal!!! Most Woodworkers are Builders by heart and Venture into many other areas of building such as metal work. Dual purpose tools have increased exponentially over the years by having one tool do multiple things is just cost-effective for the consumer.
Even Loved the music which for me maybe a first. 😉
Thanks Kevin, glad you liked the concept and the tunes!
Love your videos, Andrew. Always show your genius in all, Wish you were my neighbor so I could pick your brain once in a while.
Thanks for sharing. Felix!
I never even thought about doing this. Genus!
Genius idea Andy! I think mag switch should take a look at that as an option !
Dang, this will be relatively easy to get more reach also radial arm drill press, too.
What if you put a 5in pipe or so horizontally at the top, it gets clamped to the stand giving you the ability to adjust the reach and angle of the magdrill?
Awesome idea dude...
This is an Awesome Idea!
thNks. i like this portabi!ity for my pen drill press for pe s and pencils. im sold.
Hi Andy, this is fantastic. My Mag Drill gets used however this would make it even more useful mind which is a Dewalt that I bought used barely used if used at all. Off of Craigslist for cheap. This unit includes a regular chuck so I can use non mag drill bits. So, this could make me have a floor drill press with out buying a floor drill press. Thanks you just added a new fantastic project. Perhaps as you move along any ideas for a base that can have a wheel system so the unit can be moved. I move all my stuff around and out of the shop and blow it all out with the shop vac blower. That works great for clean up and keeps the spiders from getting to homey.
Thanks again great build project.
Really appreciate the feedback, thanks!
I've been mulling this same idea over for years (because I'm too cheap to shell out for either a new drill press or a new mag drill, so it's sat in the ideas bin....productive, I know). The issue that came up in my mind that made me reluctant to buy a mag drill to try it was that they don't pull high enough RPM's to get the right SFM at the drill tip for smaller drills and some materials such as Aluminum. Have tried drilling with smaller diam drills and if so, how was the performance?
And whilst it's hard to beat your price of free for a stand, the other decent option for adaptation seemed to me to be a core drilling stand, helps with adjusting the work to drill tip height somewhat more easily.
Great idea ! I would definitely invest in this. The multi purpose diversification aspects are very appealing. Now I can justify the purchase of a mag drill. Take my money.
Genius idea
I think that’s exactly what I want to do I so far as a dedicated metal press.
Thanks for the feedback
seems like this could be really handy to have on a job sight as well the base is the kind of thing you could have on a truck or trailer and almost no one would walk off with it while the mag drill can be stowed
Pretty fantastic work, Andrew! Really nice! 😃
Well, my channel is more about electronics, but I really like woodworking and metalworking... To the point that I already got a welding machine and I'm building my space, which is going to be 2 rooms (one for electronics and my PC and the other for woodworking and metalworking). And, well... I'm not from the US, so things get a bit complicated...
Anyway, I don't think it would make sense to be part of the program, but I'm definitely interested in a lot of their products. I'm going to start looking around to see if I can get some here in Brazil. 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I have a similarly weird project planned - I have a chemistry ring stand that I want to convert into a press for a Dremel. I'm thinking springs will play a part, but will have to look through my junk drawer for inspiration. ;-D
Hi Andrew, Another solution is to make a removeable tabletop for the drill press. My press tabletop has a vertical spigot which goes into a quick release clamp. So when I want to change between wood and metal the wood jig comes off together with its' custom fence and clamps. On goes the metal tabletop complete with flat vise.
Actually have been toying with the idea of making a floor stand for my mag drill so it can be as readily available as my drill press
I haven't priced the portable drills, but I think your use-case scenario is perfect. I would totally consider this over a drill press. It's always about $$$, though. I don't really have a need for the portability but, that doesn't mean it wouldn't.
I added a counter weight for my drill press table simple and makes adjusting up and down simpler.
good call, I probably won't get around to it but that would be nice
What did you use for the weight and how did you route the cables? I have a floor standing model with an auxiliary table and its such a pain to adjust!
@@guitarchitectural I just used a pvc pipe and some sand I had laying around. you can use anything for the weight. What I did is tide a rope (steel wire would be better) to the pvc dropped it down the tube put a pulley wheel on the top www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-1-2-in-Zinc-Plated-Swivel-Single-Pulley-44154/205882606?storeSelection=6987,1978,1984,1977,1967 the tided to the table. my set up is about like in this video czcams.com/video/l9u1pBr8uYE/video.html
Хорошая работа! 👍
As a woodworker/blacksmith I would love a bench stand that could hold the magswitch without active magnets. But with the versitality of the magnets it's easy to jury-rig a stand with more clearance. I can't motivate the extra cost for a magswitch drill from it's magnetic capabilities alone but if I could use it as a drill press to it's a different story. My old drill press is showing signs of giving up the ghost and I have mostly been looking on small milling machines as a possible upgrade path.
You couldn’t have put this video out at a better time. I’ve been looking at drill press ideas and designs a lot then last couple weeks
Glad it caught you at the right time
I am using a magnetic drill and my welding table. the only problem is the table does not have any holes in it so if the work piece is not flat stock, then I need some sacrificial spacer or steel under it if the mag drill can not stick directly to the work piece.
I searched for this exact functionality. I don't have a drill press, and need one for my newly created knife making business. I want a sturdy drill that is accurate and yet, if I have a big lump of steel I need to bore a hole out of like RSJ to make a hydrolic press or a rolling mill, I want to be able to get it on a drill press.
It seemed like these were completely incompatible aims and I would need two drills. This seems the perfect solution, but... can these mag drills handle small bits for finer smaller drill holes? I need to also drill pin holes for knife handles. Is it as accurate as a fixed drill press?
I love that Hultafors tape measure
This is a great idea. Similar to portable band saw, which is mounted on a Swag stand. Nice video. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Yes! Love my SWAG stand!
Andrew, sometimes I think you are a design Engineer, but then you act like an creative artist dabbling in woodworking and metalworking. And then you do something that neither of those people would ever attempt. Heck, I guess it doesn't matter as long as you keep doing great videos like this one. Thanks for sharing your many talents my friend. Stay safe and healthy and I hope your family is well.
Always liked the idea of modular tools for increased flexibility, even if not used that way all the time, but it also opens up a lot of possibilities for jigs and different set ups...
Though, not to leave woodworkers out, have you considered the idea of an metal articulate arm mount that would let the drill be used for jobs where the wood won't fit on the drill press?
Basically, for jobs that presently people have to resort to a hand drill and jigs but will lack power and accuracy of a drill press.
While it could also be help for metal workers dealing with non-ferrous metals that the normal magnetic mount wouldn't work and a normal clamp may not be the best option...
Though, a mount kit to use a regular power hand drill could allow it for those who either need a cheaper option or just don't need that much power when drilling but still want something that can provide better repeat-ability, accuracy, and flexibility without needing different jigs they may never use again...
a really good job.💯👍👏👏👏👏👏👏
Hey, excellent Mag Drill Stand. Only thing missing is a Drilling Depth Gauge ?
Matt Cremona needs one of these. Pretty sure his bandsaw build killed his poor drillpress... 😆😆
yeah he put that little thing through a lot
Totally makes sense.
Thanks for the feedback!
They were sold out when I looked, but this is a great idea.
So you gusset your gussets,interesting. Good build tune!
Nice idea, but I see two possible improvements:
1. Most of the mass is to the front so if you put a big piece of steel on it it might start to tip, you could add some counter weight on the backside.
2. The angled plates holding the top go quite a way down, for very small work it looks like the table can not quite reach, It also looks like their is some space under the drill so you could have the post stick up a bit and add some support on the top to minimize the amount of support needed on the bottom.
kinda more like the stands that people make for their portabands. iv actually made a stand for my portaband from an old pedestal from my old grinder and used a table from an old craftsman 10" bandsaw. and i love it. but this concept is very similar and very awesome. i love it.
tim taylor did you document the build with pictures or videos by any chance? I would love to see your process, this type of modular tooling is just pressing so many buttons for me :)
There is no question that versatility is marketable, as long as the quality of the work isn't degraded by the pursuit of that versatility (e.g. Shopsmith). This seems like an amazing solution. I've often thought about why my circular saw couldn't just dock into something to make it a mitre saw, and this is a similar idea. High five!
Thanks, yes I would agree that going down the path of making a tool that does everything poorly is no good!
Yup, Magswitch needs to come out with that...
just might happen, we will see.
This is a pretty great idea! I guess if you’re not worried about having it quickly turned back into a mag drill you could remove the magnets and work out a way to bolt it down to the mount giving you more usable travel and you wouldn’t have to turn the crank so far to start each hole
Thanks, yeah, you oculd do that, but I think I'll preserve the quick portability
Andrew Klein yeah fair enough! Also I guess you’re probably not going to be drilling through 2” of steel anytime soon anyway 😂
I dont have a mag drill and probably never will. I do have several corded drills laying idle. Now if there was a way to turn them into a spare drill press. I know there is an attachment called a drill guide. That might be a start. I realize this would not be as rugged as your unit. Thanks for the video Andy.
They exist, but they don't provide as high a degree of accuracy as is possible with a drill press and can't make up the power difference or ease of tuning the RPMs, especially the newer high end ones with digital control adjustment...
But can be better than just free handing it or using a guide jig...
While they usually still leave you having to either mount it and use like a drill press or having to hold it in place and don't generally offer ways to clamp it in place as needed, which is a benefit of the mag switches when working on metal as you can bring the drill to the work that may be too heavy or big for a drill press or just to work an odd angle...
So that's one aspect the market hasn't really addressed for the need of woodworkers that they have done for metal workers... Though, it never stopped people from trying and some of the nicest versions are DIY jigs... and some people have just built their own drill press...
I was looking at a mag-drill for wood, which is how I found this. But, this would severely limit me (essentially render my entire use-case null, as it now "Adds" a throat to a platform which previously had no throat).
I guess I"m confused, if you want to use it without a throat, like in the middle of a big piece of plywood, just undo the magnets, take it off the stand, and use it as a portable tool. What is the issue?
@@AndrewKleinWW if using on wood, won't the lack of metal connection to magnet prevent activation?
Well yeah, you would need to rely of he weight of the machine or find a way to clamp it
what is the max depth you can drill with that setup.it looks like you cant get the lower table close to the drill, but nice concept
Depends on the model of drill you put on it, but you can drill the full depth of the drill stroke
Andrew, I have a question about your portaband station in the background if you're willing to field it.
Sure, I have dine a video on it czcams.com/video/Cq3AvoRwidw/video.html
Could buy a decent floor standing drill press for the cost of those mag drills. Great idea if u already own some. But def not cost effective to go and buy a new one and make a stand for it.
Yeah, I wouldn’t advocate someone build their own, unless they really need portability and a stationary drill press immediately.
Andrew Klein Your MagSwitch affiliation aside, mag drills are often coming up at industrial auctions quite affordably and I am super inspired by your video. I am a classic "laptop" person - my ideal workshop has a drill-press with a magdrill, a portaband with a rig that makes it do stationary cuts without supervision, why not an electric hand-planer that clicks upside down into a jig for planing boards? Loving it!
P.S. to the snooty folks: I know that none of these solutions is not going to be as 'perfect' as a dedicated tool. Just like a laptop can't easily be upgraded, etc. So what? 90% of the work is not at the edges of capacity!
Great concept. 👍
Do you think the MagDrill could also be setup as a pipe/tube notcher?
Thanks, you would have to make some kind of secondary figure for notching but I think it could be done
Use a hole saw or broach bit drill bit.
Wire wheel was a little too big IMO... :P
A week before the virus hit us I was doing some shopping at a Lidel store just across the border (Nor/Swe). They had a small portable Parkside drill press with electronic depth gauge on 50% off and with the same idea as here - wood/metal/portability - I couldn't resist buying. Drove home, assembled the unit and nada. No juice, no nothing. The piece of s... was dead out of the box. Angry as a bull I went back later that week, but the store had sold all it's units so I couldn't swap. Instead I bought essential food and drinks (no toilet paper) for the return money, drove home and was hit by the lock down. A possible take home: it's better with a cold one than a drill press in case a virus hits you ....
Drill press or beer, that isn't a fair choice!
Cool
id buy
I’ve drilled thousands of hole in beams using magdrills. I almost did something like this then found a 17 floor model Jet drillpress fit $300.
I would do something like this if I ever found a good deal on a magdrill. New they are too expensive.
I love the homage to Masterpiece Theater. *grabs popcorn for the rest of the video*
Needs a magnet to keep the adjustment pipe in place for easy use. Great build Andy.
haha, I thought about that, would need to be a pretty serious magnet though
This doesn't make any sense for me personally, but I also have never had the need to have a portable drill press... Though I could see this being really helpful for people who work on metal a lot more.
I think it’s a great idea
Thanks, I guess we could even make it to work with that non-yellow one you have ...
This is a great idea. I have a mag drill and most of the time it’s in a case waiting for a specific purpose. This will exponentially increase its use. Now... about that program. FYI. I’m a Mag whore if you weren’t aware. 🤣
👍👏😎✔
Cool but for the average mag drill need a different base,that one is specifically for that pipe mag drill. 99% of the mag drills in the market are flat based.
Why dont you use a gas cup on your welder?
He's using flux core wire, not hard wire. FCAW (flux cored arc welding) not GMAW (gas metal arc welding)
Why not have two drill presses? They aren't that expensives. If not that, why not two tables on one drill press. One for metal and the other for wood. Better yet, a circular table that wraps around the post. One that lets you turn it around that post.
Any close proximity would still have the issue of cross contamination... Getting saw dust into the metal working side and metal shavings and oil on the woodworking side...
Mind, power tools can be very messy and even have some things become airborne and spread pretty far. So a good distance of separation, if not a separate room, works best to minimize that problem...
Though, for doing the same type of work. Like say just woodworking and no metal working, then proximity is less of a issue and it could be beneficial to have multiple tools with different set ups to save time. Like two band saws with different blades to do different types of cutting... Circular table can make sense for more quickly adapting drill to different set ups that basically have a jig built in...
It just doesn't apply to the reason he did this set up...
Metal? Isn't that some kind of music? I don't really know what this material is you speak of.
Yeah,,,
Not only does he need to stop talking so much ! (7:00)
BUT, He needs to get a hair cut too ! ( J. K. ! )
Nice concept dude! And as stable as it appears to be,
it looks like it can still be completely portable and not
take up to much space. Perfect if someone might want to
set it up in the back of a work truck or van!
KEEP YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY SAFE MY FRIEND !
(But seriously dude, you need a hair cut ! Just get your wife
to do it... I did, and it turns out she was right !, I don't need
my left ear as much as I thought I would !
OH BOY...
Hold on a sec, My glasses just slipped off my head again!)
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I hope you don't ever get those gloves caught in a wire wheel like I have.
first
wOw
Stick to wood man. Welding is not your thing.