I was injured in 2000. I was on painkillers till 2015 when I lost my health insurance. I did not even know I was addicted till I could not get them anymore. I ended up doing heroin ( same ingredients as the pain killers) to stop the withdrawals. Ended up a heroin addict in 2016 and dead in 2018. I was resuscitated. I was brought back a new person. Been clean almost 6 years and now own a mattress store in Detroit. 8 Mile Mattress. There is hope for you addict.
I’m a retired pharmacist. I graduated the same year as OxyContin. It literally ruined my career because being ethical was a conflict of interest with profit. If you think you can trust our system regarding Covid, you learned nothing from the collective malfeasance of the opioid crisis.
@@Clovudnew computer science major. Calculus makes me want to kill myself. Any tip going forward considering this is literally the first required math course of many
@@letterkeys4440 Leave your university and go to a polytech where you don’t do stupid theoretical calculus and only focus on practical skills. University is overrated and overvalued nowadays
@@letterkeys4440not a pharmacist, still had to take 3 semesters of Calc. Had a VERY difficult time until I found a tutor that worked at the university I was attending. Once I got through the fear (dropped it twice!) he was able to break it down in a way that made sense to me. It was like a flood gate opened, and it all made sense. Don’t give up on yourself! If I was able to understand it, you as a math/science major will get there!
My wife delivered our first baby March 21 2009. She had a c-section and the physician prescribed her 180 pills of OxyContin. At the time, the doctor said, "it's not addictive, don't worry". Thankfully after 2 pills my wife quit and dealt with the pain, because she didn't like how it made her feel. When our second baby was born May 5th 2011, a different doctor prescribed her the exact same amount of Oxy after her second C-Section. She declined and stuck with a high dose of Tylenol. I'm thankful that she didn't get hooked on this stuff, but it makes me wonder how many doctors did the same thing to millions of patients with the same promise of "it's not addictive". There's no way they didn't "know" by 2011. I'm still bitter about it to this day.
I was prescribed it as well after my C-section. I didn’t take it past one day. Didn’t like how it made me feel and was worried about it getting into my breast milk. Makes me wonder about all these kids now days with autism diagnoses.
At the MOST, 18 Oxy should have been more than enough in those situations. 180 is Absolutely Ridiculous!! I'm glad that both of you did not take that much. I understand the pain can be a LOT, & 10-20 pills TOPS would be more than enough for the vast majority of women to get thru the 1st couple days, & then go off onto Tylenol or Advil. Also the idea of the rising # of kids who are at least partially autistic since they started "Handing Oxy out" in large quantities is something to seriously think about. There needs to be accountability for the Drug companies & Doctors who make WAY too much extra $ from prescribing those meds. - Glad Yous both here were intelligent enough to not "follow" your doctors idea of using 180 pills. 10-18 (enough for 72hrs) should have been what was offered - 180 is more than enough to get hooked on, but then (at the time) they would have likley just prescribed more, & made more $. It's SO messed up that because of THAT, probably millions have died because coming off can be SO hard, & they go on to use heroin, which is now over 90% laced with Fentanyl, which is killing MORE people, FASTER than ever B4!! A sad story 4Sure!! But this comment, & it's 1st reply made me feel good to know that there ARE people who know/knew that 180 pills was/is a BAD IDEA!! Peace!!
My 36 y/o daughter died 11 years ago from an Oxycontin overdose. It was ruled accidental by the medical examiner. She left behind a 2 y/o daughter that will never know what a wonderful loving mother she was. Some people can justify their evil deeds by compartmentalizing.
@ShroomFactory because it's a start. It's something. It's better than just carrying on and continuing to praise the Sackler family. It takes time to take down an empire and this is one of the first steps by destroying their reputation/name. Do you suggest we just don't say anything, continue to put their name on prominent buildings, and just carry on as if nothing happened?
Lost 6 years of my life to being an oxy zombie. It controlled my every waking moment. Getting clean was an absolute personal hell. I've been clean for 8ish years and swore id never put myself through that again and thank god ive stayed true to that
@@GG.510I am not that person but detoxed from opiates using kratom. Use a slow tapering process and kratom for discomfort of the process. If any doctor warns you against it warning “not fda approved”……just remind the doctor of OxyContin. FDA approved that.
My mom was on it for a good 4-5 years, finally someone offered her herion instead one day and it put it into perspective and she quit cold turkey, it was 2 weeks of hell and months of screaming and self deprecation for months but now 10 years later she’s opened her own massage practice and is doing great, I’m proud of what’s she’s accomplished finally and can’t wait to see where it goes, as for the sacklers, man I’d pay for a minute alone.
Can’t imagine going through that.. my brother just went to rehab for opiates earlier this month. He was my roommate and had to move out because he went through 40 grand in 6 months and was falling apart physically. It’s horrible to see how hard it is to get off those. Kudos to your mom for having the strength to do so, and hope you’re good seeing that
Who do you think you are saying that "heroin puts opioid addiction in perpective." That's very profound and she's fortunate to have someone like you by her side, thinking outside the box.
These story’s give me hope … I beat my body up as a kid now I struggle with sever arthritis in my knees ankles and wrists on top of really bad carpal tunnel … my doc started me on Norcos 10 years ago graduated to oxy / fentanyl when I ran out of my Norcos Inow
@@colehowe damn that’s a lot of opiates to go thru in 6 months. Don’t mean to be rude but was it oxy or heroin. i went thru a similar amount before i cleaned my shit up but that was H and crack. hope your brother gets to where he needs to be.
“It’s really hard to go to jail if you’ve got a lot of money.” Great quote. I appreciated how the series presented the reality of a street dealer going to jail but kingpins walking.
"a street kid gets arrested, Gonna do some time, He get out 3 years from now, Just to commit more crime, A business man is caught, With 24 kilos, He's out on bail and out of jail, And that's the way it goes,so don't do it.~grandmaster melle Mel.
Lost a brother to it in 2013. Started taking it about 6 years earlier for gout and then had his prescription pulled. Turned to heroin and died in my families living room, not a day goes by that I don't wish these monsters would pay for their crimes. miss you always bro.
The doctor who prescribed your brother oxy should be in prison. Allopurinol is for gout, I'm on it and it works, it's cheap $7 for three months worth and keeps the attacks down to a dull roar. The constant agony from a bout of gout has brought me close to tears, for days. Thankfully no more.
@@jedprice9122 you’re not wrong about the doctor, but this was back when everyone was still saying it was non-addictive. My brother had treatment resistant gout that wouldn’t respond to allopurinol and only did a little to colchicine. It got bad enough they did and operation to remove a couple toes, clear the crystals off and reattach them. It was rough watching both my brothers go through it. So far I have yet to get it *knock on wood* I watched how painful it was for them, sincerely glad yours is under control.
@@carsonwentz8301 As long as there's a product or service that generates money, the Government will want to regulate it to get a piece of that action. They say it's for our protection, but it's not. Enter lobbies and interest groups to bankroll campaigns. Everyone gets a piece. The American Way, just how it's always worked.
Joe needs to have an incognito RN on his show. I’ve been an RN for 14 years and the stories I could tell about Oxy, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc, would make heads spin. I saw the oxy scam within my first year on the job. I’m certain there are much more experienced RNs out there with even more telling stories too. This documentary they’re referencing is a little too late in the game. Everyone was aware of this over a decade ago yet crickets chirped every time it was brought up. The entire medical system is merely a machine, swimming upstream with bandaid “solutions” that inevitably create much larger problems.
Lost my 32 year old cousin less than a week ago due to an OxyContin addiction turned heroine addiction, she met her end with a fentanyl overdose. It’s wild to read through these comments and bear partial witness to everyone’s stories. Godspeed.
Same bro. My cousin started with oxy and I also got on it but thank God i stopped a few years ago before this new age shit but I ended up getting hooked on subs. The worse 6 months of my life getting off of them. They also told subs weren't addictive
I worked as a medical assistant in a hospital for a while and we had lunch catered every single day by different pharmaceutical reps and they were scheduled YEARS out. That's over 200 different drugs being pitched to one small company in one year. Straight gangsters
Yep and the pharma sales reps just keep pushing the drugs for the added commission just like street level pushers. I hope some have a hard time sleeping at night but I doubt it. Yes some drugs are “good” but the ones you got to push to doctors usually aren’t.
I was 20 in 2007 at the height of the Opiate crisis and was RXd Oxy for a broken leg and several surgeries that came after it. They wanted me taking norco n two Oxy 40s a day. I didn’t even know I was addicted till I ran out one day, thought I had the flu. Spent my 20s on pain pills till I got put on subs n weened off. I was a kid barely outta HS I Had no idea how physically addictive these drugs were or the side effects of you run out , Doctors gave no no guidance or counseling that the drugs were addictive before hand and just kept giving me more and more pills for pain. Everyone was getting a kickback even doctors. And I went to legit family doctors not pill mills or someshit. Absolutely criminal what big pharma did to America during that time span.
Went thorough the same experience with a lower back injury. Didn't realize I was addicted until I tried to not take them and would start dry heaving. Spent 10 years addicted. Subs didn't work so I went cold turkey. Thought I was gonna did the for a couple weeks. Now 10 years clean and sober. Stay strong!
Now it makes sense why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize :) Frauds attract Frauds. In Nobel's defense there are alot of practical uses for dynamite - there are very few for a souless community organizer becoming US President.
An apology from this family would mean shit to me. They knew what they were doing the whole time, I'm sorry doesn't matter. Mine & countless others friends + families destroyed over this. They deserve the absolute worst.
These people deserves just one thing. The ultimate fate. Unfortunately it is not for us to act out. However I would never judge anyone who did. This kind of what I deem criminality even if all judicial entities provided all kind of indemnities is what I consider evil.
Should alcohol companies pay for all the deaths caused by DUIs? At what point should we hold the addict and user accountable? Do you know how many people were prescribed opioids and didn’t abuse their prescription? More people use the drug appropriately than not
@@gophukyurselvs3621 Not even close to the same topic, that's just a downright dumb comparison. To your 2nd part. . So, since there are people who do not get addicted, that means it's fine, Purdue should suffer no consequences, they shouldn't be held responsible? C'mon, you're going to need to do better than this.
@@gophukyurselvs3621 The difference is everyone is and always has been aware of the effects of alcohol. It is informed consent. With oxycontin, pharma actively lied in order to maintain its cashflow, meanwhile leading to the death of thousands, maybe millions.
My friend had hernia surgery once. These doctors prescribed him oxy 80’s. The old snortable ones not the new ones. He had a refillable prescription for a minor surgery that lasted him months and months and he got completely hooked……..he’s never been the same.
I'm a small time actor. Peter Berg gave me my first line in a movie, Battleship. I was a background actor. He saw me keeping it real and put me on. It was drowned out by action but an unforgettable experience. Seriously great guy and sharp think on your feet director.
The Sackler's knew from the beginning that OxyContin was highly addictive, as it was meant for terminal cancer patients. Even when doctors knew in the late 1990's about its addictive nature; they kept on prescribing for minor aches and pains. By the time it became public, millions were addicted. The Sackler's should have been held criminally responsible.
Part of the problem with pain killers is that they fully desensitize you once you have a small tolerance, and then as soon as the feeling of your normal nervous system returns, your body "recognizes it as pain", where the slitest touch or feel is hurtful, so you take more to numb it all away again.
Very True!! It really messes up the way people think. It often gets used for ALL pain, both physically and mentally. Now, more than ever B4, there needs to be more affordable/free mental heath care, & help for those who want to come off such drugs - & the Pharmaceutical companies should be the ones to foot the bill for everyone they've messed up!!
Sadly he was very misinformed in the case of Alfred Nobel. The obituary story was a myth. And if you pause at 11:02, the image literally has a caption at the bottom that says "fake obituary". Alfred Nobel didn't invent explosives. What he did was invent a stable version of nitroglycerin, which was basically blowing people up regularly back then. The man is nowhere near comparable to the Sacklers who have little to no care who suffers from Opioids.
I had a sister-in-law that worked as a Pharma Rep. She told me that a Private Practice Physician can make up to $200k a year by pushing their product, not to mention all the high price dinners and trips that they're given.
@@SWOTHDRANo, that's like anarcho-corporatism or something. The governing body is supposed to keep the playing field clean and even in a free market. Ours is in on the scam. "Free" doesn't mean the richest guy gets to do whatever evil shit he wants and it never has. Sorry, comrade. Thats not "thw free market for y" because we don't have a free market.
The legislature put a stop to that a while back. You’ll hear physicians refer to that as the golden days. Now they are limited in how much they can spend; more chik-fil-a lunches and less Michelin star dinners
My friends wife injured her back at work and became addicted to pain killers and basically threw her life away for couple years he sent her to rehab and she got better . They are no longer together but that addiction ruined their relationship. That’s just one of many cases I know of from friends. So sad
I live in rural Louisiana. I have been to two funerals of old girlfriends that have OD on Fentanyl. Millie's Law in LA was written in honor of one of those girls. The funeral for the second girl was last Saturday, August 26, 2023. Im allergic to opiates so ive never taken them, thankfully. To hear a kid wail and scream for the death of their Mother is something those men will never have to hear. The slow ramping of stronger and stronger opiates, I believe, isnt accidental. In 20 years it went from Hydrocodine?, to Oxycontin, now Fentanyl. Its unbelievable to me that folks I personally know are dropping dead. Thats happening all over this country, even in the smallest towns.
Make the Sacklers take their product for a year and then let them go cold turkey. They should experience the addiction risk they put others through with their drug.
@@mcb0b1what do you mean? The issue at hand can be completely traced mainly to a lack of regulations on the pharmecutical industry (as well as organized criminal enterprises, I’ll get to that) though we’d already known about their overreaches for decades. They acted like pushy used car salesman while peddling a drug chemically similar to morphine, and the government decided to believe their lies about its saftey. Of course a morphine-like drug is addictive, we’ve known that for CENTURIES. Illicit Drugs are smuggled in by the cartels, to speak very generally about the large-scale distribution networks, they control most of the fentanyl production, and use chemical precursors from a few different parts of the world. There’s no grand conspiracy here. Our government is really shitty at protecting its citizens, people are inherently greedy, wired for addiction, and things tend to get pretty bad before any actions are taken. Don’t be all weird about modern medicine. Opiates are a miracle of a discovery, without them and a couple other types of medicines modern surgery wouldn’t look nearly the same, and any illnesses and conditions would be a lot more gruesome to suffer from. Opiates aren’t inherently evil, people are inherently shitty. Also, people who hoard large amounts of wealth as a means of power tend to be morally bankrupt, to the surprise of nobody. To state another obvious fact, poor/working class folks tend to suffer for the atrocities of the wealthy. Lots of people got hooked due to injuries suffered at work, not having paid time off to heal, the need to “push” constantly in our world, etc.
I’ve lost dozens of friends directly from OxyContin. Kyle Matthews was 14 when he overdosed on Thanksgiving 2004. Since then, it’s been about 1 every three months. I’m not exaggerating when I say I’ve lost nearly 100 friends, 80% from drugs. I even had a friend named Tyler die, and his brother went a few weeks after him. Their parents had to bury their only two children. They obviously moved to heroin when oxy got too expensive, and that’s when things really got bad. I’ll never forgive the Sackler family for what they did to my community. Literal devastation on an enormous scale. We’re in the southwest not too far from the border, so we’re first in line to get deliveries from the cartel. RIP to all my friends who went too soon.
It also involves the military and government.The government has a long history in multiple drug wars going back to and way beyond the opium wars in south east asia 1839-1860. And ofc they use it on their own people. Didn't co v id teach you anything? They do what they want when they want and if civiliians die, well thats part of doing business for them. they don't give a shit about us and never have.
Was given oxy to battle the pain of a lower back injury. I have ten years clean and sober. I lost my wife, house and job because of my addiction. Darkest years of my life.
so proud of everyone who has overcome their addiction, lost so many friends due to overdoses like many of you have also . may we continue to spread awareness and help those who need it .
Unfortunately my life was ruined from oxycontin along with many others that I knew. Some of those ppl sadly lost their lives. It makes me sick that the states recieved lots of money from lawsuits, but the ones that suffered directly or indirectly from the drug, got nothing.
Calvinmiguel, I agree, especially for those of who live in Appalachia. Out of the thousands of drugs in the pharmacy (including other opiods or controlled substances), that one changed everything here.
I was on Oxycontin for years spending around $1200 a week on it just to get through the day. I lost everything because of that damn drug (my house, my car, my job, my family, everything) and I’m still trying to dig myself out of that hole to this this day. I consider myself clean now even though I take Kratom for my back injury. Thank god I couldn’t get more Oxycontin when they stopped making it because I would’ve never been able to quit. It ran my life it was so addicting. These people should burn in hell for doing that to people. I would love a few mins alone with them. Even though I’m struggling to have a normal life these days, it doesn’t compare to the hell I went through 15 years ago
Oh please, many people took this and were fine. If you were struggling with abusing it you should have told your doctor and sought out help. Instead you blame a drug for your behavior. Americans are something else. No self accountability.
@@jakeclnicholson The drug was designed to be more addictive than heroin. Doctors getting paid Big Money to push this onto their patients. The makers of the drug KNEW that their drug was twice as addictive and still sold it to the public. Not to mention, The Pharma company even bought out "Curtis Wright" the FDA chair in charge of approval. - You clearly been playing it "safe" your entire life..if you come out saying something like that. You either have ZERO experience or just Ignorant. And, "Many people took this and were fine" is simply NOT TRUE....this isn't tylenol we are talking about. Get Educated before saying something that makes an ass of yourself. Have a GREAT DAY. Stay SAFE!!!!
Spent 80 months in federal prison, went down the same year in the show that they said they would attack the abusers. They attacked me, damn sure did. Destroyed my life. First felony. Never understood why they went after me so hard until I saw this show.
McKinsey and Company, an outrageously well connected management company, advised both the FDA and Purdue pharma for years. They were specifically tasked at some points to help the FDA create parts of their policies about ensuring drug safety, and meanwhile McKinsey used this knowledge to advise Purdue on how to navigate through those regulations. They also advised Purdue on strategies to help increase sales after oxy's were already well known and acknowledged to be addictive.
They did not provide any advice on how to 'navigate through regulations,' but they were hired to help increase sales of OxyContin (as they were for many other prescription drugs)- ultimately, the one that hired them to increase sales should be blamed from my perspective
He exaggerates a lot though. Like how Purdue was wining and dining one guy making “50k a year” to get it approved. Approvals don’t hinge on 1 guys opinion. Maybe say the truth about how they spent alot on a lot of people to help it get approved.
@@84kjkwho gives af that dude should be in jail too. Everyone who was bought. Curtis wright deserves to have his name bashed just as much as the sacklers
This killed my mom too I feel . My mother started getting this stuff prescribed in the late 90s. Years later on a no painkiller list at local emergency rooms. Never got mental health treatment or the opioid treatment. But I remember OxyContin being around a lot before it got bad.
To be fair, Nobel didn't really envision tnt being used just for weapons, he mainly envisioned it as a good peace time tool for construction, mining and similar things. So he didn't make dynamite to make bombs, he had better intentions.
I was addicted to oxy and led to heroin. Broke my back in a car accident. I got clean in 2014. I never blamed anyone for my addiction, just celebrated 9 years clean.
Ya know, this guy basically opened the door to the fentanyl epidemic and the border issues that we’re faced with. I mean he’s the key holder for the door that eventually is opened for soooo many American issues right now.
@@JM-qb2kd you are wrong. Use your head. There weren't cities full of junkies crapping and passing out in the streets. Point out a single place like Kensington Ave before oxy hit. You cant.
Dopesick on Hulu with Michael Keaton and other stars is fantastic as well. After each episode my wife and I would be emotionally wiped out because of how devastating this drug was. Hard to watch the next episode.
Yep. Better and more believable than Painkiller. Less about the flashy lifestyles of the sales reps and the all-too-snarky investigator driving a 30 year old Chevy Citation. Painkiller was much more contrived.
I remember reading about OC in time magazine. As I recall it was 1 molecule away from herion. It was touted as I recall as medicine for terminally ill patients. I was with my wife at the pain management clinic when the doctor said “ the only thing left is Ocxycontin” My heart sank because I expected it would be bad for her. In fact, the drug calms her pain, but she is an absolute monster. Her personality is completely transformed. She is violent and abusive with no remorse. People discuss death and addiction, but no one ever mentions the emotional toll suffered by people associated with an OxyContin user. The states collected their money under the guise of treatment, but there is no conversation of what the drug does to the living who have legal prescriptions and the people around them. My son lives on pins and needles every day for fear of the loose cannon that we love. There is no help for us and the Saclers did it for money. Let them live a day in the life of my son.
Methadone is a old school opioid from the late 60's. Works on the same cerebral receptors as oxycodone etc. There's decades of proof it is highly addictive. To deny it had the same potential was a blatant lie
Please get your son away from her. I grew up in a house just like you described. My dad was an addict that was physically and verbally abusive. My mom kept us in that hell because she loved him. Always wondered why she didn’t love us enough to get us out of that situation. She died at 48 years old from stress of dealing with that shit for so long. I’ll be 50 next week and it still bothers me to this day. Struggled with drugs for years. Have been clean for 12 years now. So please get your son out of that situation. He deserves so much better.
Those two drugs are totally indistinguishable when consumed intravenously. The only give away is when H is cut with trash. Otherwise you can not tell there is a difference.
THE QURAN SAYS : Certainly, all disbelievers, from among the jews and christains or from among polytheists, will be in the fire of Hell. They will abide therein eternally...
Dr in Oregon put me on opioids well before it became a National issue. By time I realized what I was on the scrip was for 240 1000mg Vicodin and 60 80mg OxyContin per month. It was for tennis elbow. I’m lucky I didn’t die but that’s why I can’t sue. Was told that I can’t sue because I’m alive and no damage was done. I beg to differ.
Thats crazy for tennis elbow. Usually it’s heat/cold compress, anti-inflammatories, physical therapy and cortisone injections at least its what I went through.
That's bs. You can absolutely sue so long as you can prove that it caused addiction that further interfered with your health, and or that they refused to explore other treatment options.
In the movie a call went to the White House from a Senator who then called the DOJ to reach a deal with Purdue. This was the first case brought against them. The Sackler family managed to hold on to their personal money assets etc with no criminal charges or anyone going to jail. There has to be a special place in hell not only for the family but all those connected directly or indirectly in this horror show. It is interesting that the drug dealer standing on the corner gets the book thrown at them but the actual producer of the lethal drug gets to walk among us free.
I was contacted by lawyers and added to the class action lawsuit against Purdue. Well it’s been like 4-5 years and it just continues to go on with appeals and everything.
I have a persistent cough... been dealing with it for years. Nurse Practitioner gave me a prescription for codeine at one point. Started taking it, felt great. Slept through the night like a baby. No cough. But even when I wasn't coughing I remember thinking while at work "wow, can't wait to go home and take my codeine." I literally remember having that exact thought and then I got real scared. Went home and dumped the codeine. Never took it again. That was just CODINE. I cannot begin to imagine how addictive something like Oxy/Morphine/Heroin is, something that literally alters your brain chemistry and your body has to have it. The people who make this shit and profited from it... they have much to answer for beyond money. You work every day, stressed out, body filled with cortisol. These sacklers raped the country, destroyed innumerable lives and families.. .sure they lost some of their wealth and their legacy, but they still have generational wealth and don't have to work a day in their lives.
You're allowed to kill in the name of profit under capitalism If you kill your husband to collect insurance money, you go to prison for life. If you kill millions of people to collect (health) insurance money, you become a billionaire
great that you figured out a potential problem early. opioids and stimulants are fucking evil. fortunately, i have never had an issue with either, despite having experimented with both.
@@sahaynam6470 The problem is that Codeine hits people with varying levels of strength. If you're a Codeine "resistant" guy you can sip it all night. The same amount of Codeine in another person might result in 10 times the opioid activity
I have a love/hate relationship with Joe… but this is the reason why I love watching his show. The guy have a platform that’s open to the truth seekers!
You’ve got guys serving 20+ years in prison for serving a demand that was created by this family. Meanwhile they made off in the wind with billions, no consequence
people that sell drugs illegally know that there are consequences. same as for breaking any law. those people that are locked up are not victims, they are trash. no one forced them to break the law for profit.
@@toddinthemiddle you completely missed the point. They are there because they served a demand that was created by the true kingpins that are the sackler family. The entire epidemic exist because of them. They knew they had an addictive product and pushed for it to be sold anyway. Do you get it now? Take attention of the little guy and look at the people who gave them a job in the first place. Not a single one of them has done prison time.
Didn't the regulatory agencies approve this drug aren't they really the ones to blame? This is in no way defending the family but seriously anyone can make a drug but it can't be passed onto the customer legally unless the FDA approves its use and a doctor then prescribes it. The family didn't even invent the drug. Chemists and doctors did. The family were merely shareholders.
Oxycontin took 10 years of my life away from me and completely altered the course of my life forever. I always wonder who I would have become or what I could have achieved, if it hadn't been for that drug. To this today, I'm still taking Subutex everyday and I pray I never get seriously injured, as I'm now "red flagged" in my medical records as being an abuser of opiates. Even when I gave birth to my daughter and was in severe pain, all I was offered was an 800 mg Tylenol.
I got off oxycontin about 13 years ago, hardest thing I have ever done. I live in a small city and can think of atleast a dozen people who passed from it during that time.
Someone needs to hold that man accountable for all the millions of people that drug has killed.ive seen whole family's die off from oxy,litterly the whole family.i got strungout on oxy when I was 15 and just hitting 40 and I feel like I'm lucky to still be here....
Because of the backlash to this, people like me who suffer chronic pain had to suffer. I had to jump thru so many hoops in order to get some relief. They supposedly have a 5 Dr panel that has to give approval on my insurance. What these people did was atrocious, just for $$$. It sickens me.
@@tommyp1494Hell these "pain clinics" were doing the same thing on the table. Where do you think the kid at your school was getting them from? It's amazing to me that they were even allowed to manufacture that many pills much less sell them. This was intentional and there is nothing you can say to make me believe otherwise. It was like you described, EVERYWHERE! Those pills were in every other house across the country. They knew how many they made. Smh
I hate how it's affected dentistry. I had a tooth infection with crippling pain that wouldn't allow me to sleep, wound up having to get it yanked after waiting all weekend, they won't give you anything now. I used to love getting a couple vicodin for the day of a procedure like that and for the next day. Would have especially loved it those sleepless nights. I actually thought I had convinced a dentist to show mercy and he wrote a script for a few Tylenol 3 but by the time I got to the pharmacy he had canceled it and prescribed ibuprofen instead. I didn't even bother, had a bottle at home if I wanted that. But I also know people with chronic conditions, the hoops they have to jump through are nuts, if they weren't just cut off cold turkey to begin with like a lot of people.
The government NOT locking them all up and throwing away the key is their way of giving the thumbs up to their behavior. Sure, they fined them. But they were fined pocket-change. If the punishment is anything less than life in prison for a crime of this magnitude, it is government approved.
@@deanoost9599We all know. This was intentional. I made another comment about how they knew how many pills they were manufacturing and how strong they were. There aren't that many people in that severe of pain. They let this shit get legally passed out like they were fucking tic tacs.
I had a terrible back injury and they kept trying to push Oxy on me, I declined it over and over and I’m so glad I didn’t let them talk me into taking them.
I still can not believe this was even possible to happen. Still Under total shock. After watched “Painkiller”, Reading those comments here is so heartbroking.
I used to snort OC 80’s back in the mid 2000’s … what a time … unfortunately was addicted to them for 8 long years what a nightmare … been sober for 8 years
I needed a dual fasciotomy due to compartment syndrome 3 years ago and OxyCotin got me through some insane pain. I couldn't get out of bed without it for the first 18 months and at one stage was taking it 6 times a day. pain relief
My dad took it as well during his years with cancer. It was the only way to control the pain. Unfortunately it helps some but it does a lot of damage to others. I took it briefly after 3 surgeries and it helped. I never got addicted. Addiction doesn't run in my family, thank God. I feel sorry for those who endured tragedies from its use.
The closest thing to justice would be to take every penny the entire family, their company, and all of the executives & anyone heavily involved with the company have ever earned. The Sacklers should also receive capital punishment, shown publicly.
Best idea... take their money away and put it towards dealing with the opiod crisis happening everywhere. They created the problem now they can fix it.
in 2021 i was barely 21 and i got in a accident and ended up breaking my hip and femur and while in the hospital in seattle they gave me fentanyl while in the hospital and when i got out they gave me so much oxycodone that stuff really messed me up I couldn’t even take the 20 they gave me fast forward i go to my next appointment a month later and was told i needed a refill and when i went i still had 17 and they were so confused on why i wasn’t taking them.I just knew after taking the couple what it was doing to me i couldn’t do it.. They do that to get people addicted to that stuff it’s really messed up
I love you and I also will forever crave this evil evil drug because of what they did. It is still ruining my life to this day currently. Thanks Purdue
I'm so glad this is all coming out into the light and people are starting to talk about it!!! Mental health services are so underfunded and massively overwhelmed.... hundreds of beds in rehab facilities are being closed everyday!!!! I've been an addict for over 20 years in recovery for 8 years and I'm so tired of burying my friends....
Oxy was the start of my downfall , the main reason my life was in shambles for 10 yrs, oxy got to expensive so i moved to tar, thankfully i met my wife and she gave me 3 beautiful kids and stuck by me thru and thru, ff to know i wouldn't change a thing, hitting rock bottom was all it took for me to realize i needed to change b4 i lost everything in life i ever wanted, it was yhe hardest and best thing i have ever done.. if your struggling you to can get over that hump...you just have to be sick and tired of the whole process
Now it makes sense why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize :) Frauds attract Frauds. In Nobel's defense there are alot of practical uses for dynamite - there are very few for a souless community organizer becoming US President.
They prescribed this to my lill sister 20 years ago for her migraines that were bothering her….. what we witnessed thru the years of addiction that followed you would think was a bad horror movie that never ended… it finally did this year as she died…to all that was left behind they are left with the memories of torture she was strung along thru by the doctors and their pharma buddies..so the effects ripple out to more than just the victims…my lill sister had everything going for her and was aware too late what they did… she was trying to get better …
"Pain Management" was the first Andrew Vachss novel I ever read(may he rest in peace) I went back to his older stuff and he was writing about child trafficking in the 80's, as he was working for the FBI back then. He eventually got his law degree, did pro investigations bono for kids, and wrote books based on what he had seen.
I really need everyday to walk with lees pain and I got tumor too but they don't about me and I care about everybody Dr,cop,firefright, good ppl around world god blessed all of y'all
I was extra and Jamie Fox’s stand in(no bs) in the movie “The Kingdom” filmed in Mesa, Az back in 06. Let me tell you, Mr Berg was the NICEST person darn near on the set! He literally asked all our names(I was a extra in the opening scene explosion, there were stuntmen/stuntwoman too) and would graciously thank us! It was my first time on a major movie set and it f’d my mind up how nice he was. The AD’s were d*cks though.
I was injured in 2000. I was on painkillers till 2015 when I lost my health insurance. I did not even know I was addicted till I could not get them anymore. I ended up doing heroin ( same ingredients as the pain killers) to stop the withdrawals. Ended up a heroin addict in 2016 and dead in 2018. I was resuscitated. I was brought back a new person. Been clean almost 6 years and now own a mattress store in Detroit. 8 Mile Mattress. There is hope for you addict.
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Sounds like bullshit.
Fact checked the mattress place bc it sounded like a movie reference but good shit👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Glad you made it out of that. Hell of a turn around. Congratulations. Sobriety is always worth it.
I’m a retired pharmacist. I graduated the same year as OxyContin. It literally ruined my career because being ethical was a conflict of interest with profit. If you think you can trust our system regarding Covid, you learned nothing from the collective malfeasance of the opioid crisis.
EXACTLY
Hi retired Pharmacist! I want to become one too but the school was too expensive and required too much math. So I studied computer science
@@Clovudnew computer science major. Calculus makes me want to kill myself. Any tip going forward considering this is literally the first required math course of many
@@letterkeys4440 Leave your university and go to a polytech where you don’t do stupid theoretical calculus and only focus on practical skills. University is overrated and overvalued nowadays
@@letterkeys4440not a pharmacist, still had to take 3 semesters of Calc. Had a VERY difficult time until I found a tutor that worked at the university I was attending. Once I got through the fear (dropped it twice!) he was able to break it down in a way that made sense to me. It was like a flood gate opened, and it all made sense. Don’t give up on yourself! If I was able to understand it, you as a math/science major will get there!
My wife delivered our first baby March 21 2009. She had a c-section and the physician prescribed her 180 pills of OxyContin. At the time, the doctor said, "it's not addictive, don't worry". Thankfully after 2 pills my wife quit and dealt with the pain, because she didn't like how it made her feel. When our second baby was born May 5th 2011, a different doctor prescribed her the exact same amount of Oxy after her second C-Section. She declined and stuck with a high dose of Tylenol. I'm thankful that she didn't get hooked on this stuff, but it makes me wonder how many doctors did the same thing to millions of patients with the same promise of "it's not addictive". There's no way they didn't "know" by 2011. I'm still bitter about it to this day.
I was prescribed it as well after my C-section. I didn’t take it past one day. Didn’t like how it made me feel and was worried about it getting into my breast milk. Makes me wonder about all these kids now days with autism diagnoses.
At the MOST, 18 Oxy should have been more than enough in those situations. 180 is Absolutely Ridiculous!! I'm glad that both of you did not take that much. I understand the pain can be a LOT, & 10-20 pills TOPS would be more than enough for the vast majority of women to get thru the 1st couple days, & then go off onto Tylenol or Advil. Also the idea of the rising # of kids who are at least partially autistic since they started "Handing Oxy out" in large quantities is something to seriously think about. There needs to be accountability for the Drug companies & Doctors who make WAY too much extra $ from prescribing those meds.
- Glad Yous both here were intelligent enough to not "follow" your doctors idea of using 180 pills. 10-18 (enough for 72hrs) should have been what was offered - 180 is more than enough to get hooked on, but then (at the time) they would have likley just prescribed more, & made more $. It's SO messed up that because of THAT, probably millions have died because coming off can be SO hard, & they go on to use heroin, which is now over 90% laced with Fentanyl, which is killing MORE people, FASTER than ever B4!! A sad story 4Sure!! But this comment, & it's 1st reply made me feel good to know that there ARE people who know/knew that 180 pills was/is a BAD IDEA!! Peace!!
You still have them? A hundred and eighty 80mg's are worth about $14,400 today.
I did the same after delivering and even surgery….the oxy made me so sick I rather deal with the pain. I guess I was a lucky one ❤
My mom was addicted hard 6 months after a c section on one of my siblings, but came out ok.
My 36 y/o daughter died 11 years ago from an Oxycontin overdose. It was ruled accidental by the medical examiner. She left behind a 2 y/o daughter that will never know what a wonderful loving mother she was. Some people can justify their evil deeds by compartmentalizing.
That is awful, I’m sorry.
I am sorry for your loss…your grand daughter is blessed and so are you. Your daughter is with you always with you
No alprazolam? In her system?
@@ericfuller6326Xanax and Oxycontin are two different things.
I am so sorry for your loss!!!
This warms my heart knowing the Sackler name is FINALLY being publicly shit on. This is a great first step in attempting to hold them accountable.
So what? They're still wealthier than all of us.
@ShroomFactory because it's a start. It's something. It's better than just carrying on and continuing to praise the Sackler family. It takes time to take down an empire and this is one of the first steps by destroying their reputation/name.
Do you suggest we just don't say anything, continue to put their name on prominent buildings, and just carry on as if nothing happened?
Lol you wish , this is America bro
@@K_FI_L_Y_P_S_O Yes. That's American tradition.
@ShroomFactory I can't argue that but I'm hoping we break that tradition with this family with the amount of suffering they've peddled in the US.
Lost 6 years of my life to being an oxy zombie. It controlled my every waking moment. Getting clean was an absolute personal hell. I've been clean for 8ish years and swore id never put myself through that again and thank god ive stayed true to that
Welcome back to life, something was already wrong in your life that was the lesson glad you came out the other side shining.
Stay strong bro
Keep it going. Congratulations on 8 years clean. That's one of the hardest habits to break. Your one of very few who make it out.
How’d you do it brother? I need help. I’d do anything to not be on this shit. How did you get off it?
@@GG.510I am not that person but detoxed from opiates using kratom. Use a slow tapering process and kratom for discomfort of the process. If any doctor warns you against it warning “not fda approved”……just remind the doctor of OxyContin. FDA approved that.
My mom was on it for a good 4-5 years, finally someone offered her herion instead one day and it put it into perspective and she quit cold turkey, it was 2 weeks of hell and months of screaming and self deprecation for months but now 10 years later she’s opened her own massage practice and is doing great, I’m proud of what’s she’s accomplished finally and can’t wait to see where it goes, as for the sacklers, man I’d pay for a minute alone.
Can’t imagine going through that.. my brother just went to rehab for opiates earlier this month. He was my roommate and had to move out because he went through 40 grand in 6 months and was falling apart physically.
It’s horrible to see how hard it is to get off those. Kudos to your mom for having the strength to do so, and hope you’re good seeing that
Who do you think you are saying that "heroin puts opioid addiction in perpective." That's very profound and she's fortunate to have someone like you by her side, thinking outside the box.
These story’s give me hope … I beat my body up as a kid now I struggle with sever arthritis in my knees ankles and wrists on top of really bad carpal tunnel … my doc started me on Norcos 10 years ago graduated to oxy / fentanyl when I ran out of my Norcos Inow
I hope they are reading this, and I hope they are looking forward to hell 🔥
@@colehowe damn that’s a lot of opiates to go thru in 6 months. Don’t mean to be rude but was it oxy or heroin. i went thru a similar amount before i cleaned my shit up but that was H and crack. hope your brother gets to where he needs to be.
“It’s really hard to go to jail if you’ve got a lot of money.” Great quote. I appreciated how the series presented the reality of a street dealer going to jail but kingpins walking.
Which series is this? I’ve seen dopesick on Disney but wondering if this one is better
@@lewis809’Pain Killer’ I think
"a street kid gets arrested,
Gonna do some time,
He get out 3 years from now,
Just to commit more crime,
A business man is caught,
With 24 kilos,
He's out on bail and out of jail,
And that's the way it goes,so don't do it.~grandmaster melle Mel.
So true. It very hard to go jail if you have money. The only time when rich people go to jail if you mess with other rich people money. Sad but true.
@@richardaaron4454 thanks
Lost a brother to it in 2013. Started taking it about 6 years earlier for gout and then had his prescription pulled. Turned to heroin and died in my families living room, not a day goes by that I don't wish these monsters would pay for their crimes. miss you always bro.
The doctor who prescribed your brother oxy should be in prison. Allopurinol is for gout, I'm on it and it works, it's cheap $7 for three months worth and keeps the attacks down to a dull roar. The constant agony from a bout of gout has brought me close to tears, for days. Thankfully no more.
So fucked up man. I hope urr doing good.
@@jedprice9122 you’re not wrong about the doctor, but this was back when everyone was still saying it was non-addictive. My brother had treatment resistant gout that wouldn’t respond to allopurinol and only did a little to colchicine. It got bad enough they did and operation to remove a couple toes, clear the crystals off and reattach them. It was rough watching both my brothers go through it. So far I have yet to get it *knock on wood* I watched how painful it was for them, sincerely glad yours is under control.
Why blame them when it was your brother's choice to abuse them
You should take it into your own hands and visit them i their gated neighbourhood if you know what i mean
This no different than Congressmen voting for a lobby then going to work for them after politics. Been happening for 200 years.
Exactly. This will happen as long as we are humans.
Just try to be as skeptical as possible
Same with people who work for the SEC and then go work for Wall Street companies.
& this is why politicians want us divided & sadly it works. Until we come together as a nation this will continue.
@andrewstarr3503 300 million people will never sustainability come together.
The only path forward is decentralization
@@carsonwentz8301 As long as there's a product or service that generates money, the Government will want to regulate it to get a piece of that action. They say it's for our protection, but it's not. Enter lobbies and interest groups to bankroll campaigns. Everyone gets a piece. The American Way, just how it's always worked.
Joe needs to have an incognito RN on his show. I’ve been an RN for 14 years and the stories I could tell about Oxy, pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc, would make heads spin. I saw the oxy scam within my first year on the job. I’m certain there are much more experienced RNs out there with even more telling stories too. This documentary they’re referencing is a little too late in the game. Everyone was aware of this over a decade ago yet crickets chirped every time it was brought up. The entire medical system is merely a machine, swimming upstream with bandaid “solutions” that inevitably create much larger problems.
Exactly about 10 years too late. Actullay about 15 years
Lost my 32 year old cousin less than a week ago due to an OxyContin addiction turned heroine addiction, she met her end with a fentanyl overdose. It’s wild to read through these comments and bear partial witness to everyone’s stories. Godspeed.
Sorry for your loss.
So sorry for your loss.
sorry for your loss
It is wild… I imagine comments like these going down in history as examples of the dark ages of mental health.
Same bro. My cousin started with oxy and I also got on it but thank God i stopped a few years ago before this new age shit but I ended up getting hooked on subs. The worse 6 months of my life getting off of them. They also told subs weren't addictive
It got me addicted, took 0xys in 98, remember 1st withdraw, next 14 years got high moved on to heron, methadon, and quit on my own, now 10 years clean
You are alive???
I worked as a medical assistant in a hospital for a while and we had lunch catered every single day by different pharmaceutical reps and they were scheduled YEARS out. That's over 200 different drugs being pitched to one small company in one year. Straight gangsters
Thats big farma for you,they don't have a conscience
only thinking about $$$
Yet republicans want invade Mexico when we have our own drug problem here it’s sad people fall for the bait
Yep and the pharma sales reps just keep pushing the drugs for the added commission just like street level pushers. I hope some have a hard time sleeping at night but I doubt it. Yes some drugs are “good” but the ones you got to push to doctors usually aren’t.
It's called the FREE MARKET, THE AMERICAN WAY. If you don't like it LEAVE THE USA. The Sacklers are WINNERS in my book. They got the $$$$$. /s
I know about the bounty drug reps spread into medical offices
Possibly the most informative 15minute video I've ever seen. Insane amount of eye-opening information...
Kudos to Berg. Well done.
I was 20 in 2007 at the height of the Opiate crisis and was RXd Oxy for a broken leg and several surgeries that came after it. They wanted me taking norco n two Oxy 40s a day. I didn’t even know I was addicted till I ran out one day, thought I had the flu. Spent my 20s on pain pills till I got put on subs n weened off. I was a kid barely outta HS I Had no idea how physically addictive these drugs were or the side effects of you run out , Doctors gave no no guidance or counseling that the drugs were addictive before hand and just kept giving me more and more pills for pain. Everyone was getting a kickback even doctors. And I went to legit family doctors not pill mills or someshit. Absolutely criminal what big pharma did to America during that time span.
Went thorough the same experience with a lower back injury. Didn't realize I was addicted until I tried to not take them and would start dry heaving. Spent 10 years addicted. Subs didn't work so I went cold turkey. Thought I was gonna did the for a couple weeks. Now 10 years clean and sober. Stay strong!
Gary Ridgway is in jail thinking, I may be the Green River Killer, but at least I'm not a Sackler.
Now it makes sense why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize :) Frauds attract Frauds. In Nobel's defense there are alot of practical uses for dynamite - there are very few for a souless community organizer becoming US President.
An apology from this family would mean shit to me. They knew what they were doing the whole time, I'm sorry doesn't matter. Mine & countless others friends + families destroyed over this. They deserve the absolute worst.
These people deserves just one thing. The ultimate fate. Unfortunately it is not for us to act out. However I would never judge anyone who did. This kind of what I deem criminality even if all judicial entities provided all kind of indemnities is what I consider evil.
Should alcohol companies pay for all the deaths caused by DUIs? At what point should we hold the addict and user accountable? Do you know how many people were prescribed opioids and didn’t abuse their prescription? More people use the drug appropriately than not
@@gophukyurselvs3621 Not even close to the same topic, that's just a downright dumb comparison.
To your 2nd part. . So, since there are people who do not get addicted, that means it's fine, Purdue should suffer no consequences, they shouldn't be held responsible? C'mon, you're going to need to do better than this.
@@gophukyurselvs3621 The difference is everyone is and always has been aware of the effects of alcohol. It is informed consent. With oxycontin, pharma actively lied in order to maintain its cashflow, meanwhile leading to the death of thousands, maybe millions.
@@natantataii8195 We need to do it how the French did.
My friend had hernia surgery once. These doctors prescribed him oxy 80’s. The old snortable ones not the new ones. He had a refillable prescription for a minor surgery that lasted him months and months and he got completely hooked……..he’s never been the same.
It rewires your brain.
This comment section brought me to tears. You are all so strong. We stand with you, together.
“Its hard to go to jail today if u got a lot of money” sad but astronomically true!
Like Orwell said in animal farm. "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others."
I'm a small time actor. Peter Berg gave me my first line in a movie, Battleship. I was a background actor. He saw me keeping it real and put me on. It was drowned out by action but an unforgettable experience. Seriously great guy and sharp think on your feet director.
No he didnt
What a great story and I sincerely hope that you manage to get more roles that give you more dialogue in films.
@@Mrpeely1Is your life so pathetic that such a story couldn't be true.
LoL.
Sad life.
Did you at least blow him as a sign of gratitude?
I was in honey I shrunk the kids….boom.
The Sackler's knew from the beginning that OxyContin was highly addictive, as it was meant for terminal cancer patients. Even when doctors knew in the late 1990's about its addictive nature; they kept on prescribing for minor aches and pains. By the time it became public, millions were addicted. The Sackler's should have been held criminally responsible.
Part of the problem with pain killers is that they fully desensitize you once you have a small tolerance, and then as soon as the feeling of your normal nervous system returns, your body "recognizes it as pain", where the slitest touch or feel is hurtful, so you take more to numb it all away again.
Very True!! It really messes up the way people think. It often gets used for ALL pain, both physically and mentally. Now, more than ever B4, there needs to be more affordable/free mental heath care, & help for those who want to come off such drugs - & the Pharmaceutical companies should be the ones to foot the bill for everyone they've messed up!!
I love Joe when he learns something new. Look out for him telling every single guest for the next 6 months 😅
we got a comedian in the comment section over here!
I'm surprised Joe didn't know that. I thought it was common knowledge. Hell, I learned it from Mad Magazine in the 80s.
Sadly he was very misinformed in the case of Alfred Nobel. The obituary story was a myth. And if you pause at 11:02, the image literally has a caption at the bottom that says "fake obituary".
Alfred Nobel didn't invent explosives. What he did was invent a stable version of nitroglycerin, which was basically blowing people up regularly back then. The man is nowhere near comparable to the Sacklers who have little to no care who suffers from Opioids.
@@sedgelewis8529its commen knowledge actually
Now if he would just shut tf up when the guest has someone obviously interesting to say instead of interrupting him with stem cell BS
I had a sister-in-law that worked as a Pharma Rep. She told me that a Private Practice Physician can make up to $200k a year by pushing their product, not to mention all the high price dinners and trips that they're given.
Thats thw free market for y, happens in all business not just big pharma
@@SWOTHDRANo, that's like anarcho-corporatism or something. The governing body is supposed to keep the playing field clean and even in a free market. Ours is in on the scam. "Free" doesn't mean the richest guy gets to do whatever evil shit he wants and it never has. Sorry, comrade. Thats not "thw free market for y" because we don't have a free market.
They fell for the snare. Money
The legislature put a stop to that a while back. You’ll hear physicians refer to that as the golden days. Now they are limited in how much they can spend; more chik-fil-a lunches and less Michelin star dinners
Yep and with the flu shots those free trips to The Caribbean! The Simpsons even fun of that.
My friends wife injured her back at work and became addicted to pain killers and basically threw her life away for couple years he sent her to rehab and she got better . They are no longer together but that addiction ruined their relationship. That’s just one of many cases I know of from friends. So sad
Thank you for getting this out there .
I live in rural Louisiana. I have been to two funerals of old girlfriends that have OD on Fentanyl. Millie's Law in LA was written in honor of one of those girls. The funeral for the second girl was last Saturday, August 26, 2023. Im allergic to opiates so ive never taken them, thankfully. To hear a kid wail and scream for the death of their Mother is something those men will never have to hear. The slow ramping of stronger and stronger opiates, I believe, isnt accidental. In 20 years it went from Hydrocodine?, to Oxycontin, now Fentanyl. Its unbelievable to me that folks I personally know are dropping dead. Thats happening all over this country, even in the smallest towns.
i am in lafayette LA and it is hella crazy over here
And yet you get called a conspiracy theorist when you question the “science”.
*Hydrocodone.
Make the Sacklers take their product for a year and then let them go cold turkey. They should experience the addiction risk they put others through with their drug.
@@mcb0b1what do you mean? The issue at hand can be completely traced mainly to a lack of regulations on the pharmecutical industry (as well as organized criminal enterprises, I’ll get to that) though we’d already known about their overreaches for decades. They acted like pushy used car salesman while peddling a drug chemically similar to morphine, and the government decided to believe their lies about its saftey. Of course a morphine-like drug is addictive, we’ve known that for CENTURIES.
Illicit Drugs are smuggled in by the cartels, to speak very generally about the large-scale distribution networks, they control most of the fentanyl production, and use chemical precursors from a few different parts of the world.
There’s no grand conspiracy here. Our government is really shitty at protecting its citizens, people are inherently greedy, wired for addiction, and things tend to get pretty bad before any actions are taken. Don’t be all weird about modern medicine. Opiates are a miracle of a discovery, without them and a couple other types of medicines modern surgery wouldn’t look nearly the same, and any illnesses and conditions would be a lot more gruesome to suffer from. Opiates aren’t inherently evil, people are inherently shitty. Also, people who hoard large amounts of wealth as a means of power tend to be morally bankrupt, to the surprise of nobody. To state another obvious fact, poor/working class folks tend to suffer for the atrocities of the wealthy. Lots of people got hooked due to injuries suffered at work, not having paid time off to heal, the need to “push” constantly in our world, etc.
I’ve lost dozens of friends directly from OxyContin. Kyle Matthews was 14 when he overdosed on Thanksgiving 2004. Since then, it’s been about 1 every three months. I’m not exaggerating when I say I’ve lost nearly 100 friends, 80% from drugs. I even had a friend named Tyler die, and his brother went a few weeks after him. Their parents had to bury their only two children.
They obviously moved to heroin when oxy got too expensive, and that’s when things really got bad. I’ll never forgive the Sackler family for what they did to my community. Literal devastation on an enormous scale. We’re in the southwest not too far from the border, so we’re first in line to get deliveries from the cartel.
RIP to all my friends who went too soon.
you used to get this in every walgreens or cvs.
Rip to them bro but where tf do you live that u know that many ppl dying from over doses
Is this in Appalachia somewhere?
It also involves the military and government.The government has a long history in multiple drug wars going back to and way beyond the opium wars in south east asia 1839-1860. And ofc they use it on their own people. Didn't co v id teach you anything? They do what they want when they want and if civiliians die, well thats part of doing business for them. they don't give a shit about us and never have.
"I’ve lost nearly 100 friends, 80% from drugs"
Me - I don't believe you, the math doesn't work out
Was given oxy to battle the pain of a lower back injury. I have ten years clean and sober. I lost my wife, house and job because of my addiction. Darkest years of my life.
so proud of everyone who has overcome their addiction, lost so many friends due to overdoses like many of you have also . may we continue to spread awareness and help those who need it .
Unfortunately my life was ruined from oxycontin along with many others that I knew. Some of those ppl sadly lost their lives. It makes me sick that the states recieved lots of money from lawsuits, but the ones that suffered directly or indirectly from the drug, got nothing.
They already started plotting how to misuse, overspend, and siphon funds to all the wrong places. Shame
They didn't force the pills down your throat you chose to abuse them
@daniell5740 Yeah, they have to have some accountability too.
@@daniell5740ignorant comment
It sickens me to know they getting away with that made huge profits on a highly addictive drug that FDA approved
"Pain Killer" on Netflix was such an eye opening series. Thankful I never got on this stuff!
Dopesick (hulu) and The Pharmacist ( netflix) was great also
Dopesick on Disney was very good too. Depressing though
Dopesick was much better imo.
Calvinmiguel, I agree, especially for those of who live in Appalachia. Out of the thousands of drugs in the pharmacy (including other opiods or controlled substances), that one changed everything here.
I was on Oxycontin for years spending around $1200 a week on it just to get through the day. I lost everything because of that damn drug (my house, my car, my job, my family, everything) and I’m still trying to dig myself out of that hole to this this day. I consider myself clean now even though I take Kratom for my back injury. Thank god I couldn’t get more Oxycontin when they stopped making it because I would’ve never been able to quit. It ran my life it was so addicting. These people should burn in hell for doing that to people. I would love a few mins alone with them. Even though I’m struggling to have a normal life these days, it doesn’t compare to the hell I went through 15 years ago
1200a week what do you do for work
Who told you they stopped making it lmao it's not methaqualone
Oh please, many people took this and were fine. If you were struggling with abusing it you should have told your doctor and sought out help. Instead you blame a drug for your behavior. Americans are something else. No self accountability.
@@jakeclnicholson The drug was designed to be more addictive than heroin. Doctors getting paid Big Money to push this onto their patients. The makers of the drug KNEW that their drug was twice as addictive and still sold it to the public. Not to mention, The Pharma company even bought out "Curtis Wright" the FDA chair in charge of approval.
- You clearly been playing it "safe" your entire life..if you come out saying something like that. You either have ZERO experience or just Ignorant.
And, "Many people took this and were fine" is simply NOT TRUE....this isn't tylenol we are talking about. Get Educated before saying something that makes an ass of yourself.
Have a GREAT DAY. Stay SAFE!!!!
@@jakeclnicholson dangerous drugs should not be marketed as safe
Spent 80 months in federal prison, went down the same year in the show that they said they would attack the abusers. They attacked me, damn sure did. Destroyed my life. First felony. Never understood why they went after me so hard until I saw this show.
McKinsey and Company, an outrageously well connected management company, advised both the FDA and Purdue pharma for years. They were specifically tasked at some points to help the FDA create parts of their policies about ensuring drug safety, and meanwhile McKinsey used this knowledge to advise Purdue on how to navigate through those regulations. They also advised Purdue on strategies to help increase sales after oxy's were already well known and acknowledged to be addictive.
McKinsey is one of those lowkey evil af corpo's that fly under the radar fully because there's always a bigger target for people to get mad at
And guess who also worked for McKinsey and ran for president in 2020?? Effin Mayor Pete that tool
Never knew this. Thank you for sharing. Shame on them.
They did not provide any advice on how to 'navigate through regulations,' but they were hired to help increase sales of OxyContin (as they were for many other prescription drugs)- ultimately, the one that hired them to increase sales should be blamed from my perspective
Love Peter Berg!! That dude is a story teller and his directing shows it
He exaggerates a lot though. Like how Purdue was wining and dining one guy making “50k a year” to get it approved. Approvals don’t hinge on 1 guys opinion. Maybe say the truth about how they spent alot on a lot of people to help it get approved.
And he lied about the deaths of Prince and others. A true story teller, indeed!!
@@84kjkwho gives af that dude should be in jail too. Everyone who was bought. Curtis wright deserves to have his name bashed just as much as the sacklers
This killed my mom too I feel . My mother started getting this stuff prescribed in the late 90s. Years later on a no painkiller list at local emergency rooms. Never got mental health treatment or the opioid treatment. But I remember OxyContin being around a lot before it got bad.
We know the family where the guillotine let's make it happen
To be fair, Nobel didn't really envision tnt being used just for weapons, he mainly envisioned it as a good peace time tool for construction, mining and similar things. So he didn't make dynamite to make bombs, he had better intentions.
Peter Berg is a solid director and was a pretty good actor too
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He was on Lil Nicky with Adam Sandler I think
I've seen em act in other films but that one comes to mind first
@@smartass0124no its not.
Yeah I'll get the uhh, rum raisin there
They need to use those billions to treat all the addicts that are STILL struggling to this day because of that drug!
They are not on pharmaceuticals! You cannot get them! Street drugs,fentanyl! Take your chances😢
I’m a chipper…. I’m so much more productive on it but in moderation if not tolerance levels get way too imbalance in my opinion
@@notveryobviousguy4373ya, how long has that been going on.
@@notveryobviousguy4373yeah. Recreational heroine is a great idea. Enjoy using it daily. I'm sure it will work out great. 😂
No those addicts need to stop getting high, money won't fix them
I come from a small town and when oxytocin became legal all I can remember is old people becoming alot happier, smiles on their faces all the time.
I was addicted to oxy and led to heroin. Broke my back in a car accident. I got clean in 2014. I never blamed anyone for my addiction, just celebrated 9 years clean.
Peter Berg always does quality work. A guy worth listening to
Ya know, this guy basically opened the door to the fentanyl epidemic and the border issues that we’re faced with. I mean he’s the key holder for the door that eventually is opened for soooo many American issues right now.
The government did that when they enacted federal anti-opium laws in 1914, which were based on racism not drug safety.
@JoJoJoker shhhhh, you can't point out obvious things to people on the internet these days, you may offend their delicate sensibilities
That isn’t so.
Opiates and opioids had been around long before this man had even lived.
No, the govt puts the drugs out there ya know like the Sassoon family governs the cocaine distribution along with fda
@@JM-qb2kd you are wrong. Use your head. There weren't cities full of junkies crapping and passing out in the streets. Point out a single place like Kensington Ave before oxy hit. You cant.
It was a fantastic series!
❤THANK YOU PETER BERG❤Also for including Giuliani!!
Just watched Painkiller on Netflix and was WAITING for this one!
Dopesick on Hulu with Michael Keaton and other stars is fantastic as well. After each episode my wife and I would be emotionally wiped out because of how devastating this drug was. Hard to watch the next episode.
Yes, I think it was better then Pain Killer. More raw and real.
Yep. Better and more believable than Painkiller. Less about the flashy lifestyles of the sales reps and the all-too-snarky investigator driving a 30 year old Chevy Citation. Painkiller was much more contrived.
great movie
I remember reading about OC in time magazine. As I recall it was 1 molecule away from herion. It was touted as I recall as medicine for terminally ill patients.
I was with my wife at the pain management clinic when the doctor said “ the only thing left is Ocxycontin”
My heart sank because I expected it would be bad for her.
In fact, the drug calms her pain, but she is an absolute monster. Her personality is completely transformed. She is violent and abusive with no remorse.
People discuss death and addiction, but no one ever mentions the emotional toll suffered by people associated with an OxyContin user. The states collected their money under the guise of treatment, but there is no conversation of what the drug does to the living who have legal prescriptions and the people around them.
My son lives on pins and needles every day for fear of the loose cannon that we love. There is no help for us and the Saclers did it for money. Let them live a day in the life of my son.
Methadone is a old school opioid from the late 60's. Works on the same cerebral receptors as oxycodone etc. There's decades of proof it is highly addictive. To deny it had the same potential was a blatant lie
Please get your son away from her. I grew up in a house just like you described. My dad was an addict that was physically and verbally abusive. My mom kept us in that hell because she loved him. Always wondered why she didn’t love us enough to get us out of that situation. She died at 48 years old from stress of dealing with that shit for so long. I’ll be 50 next week and it still bothers me to this day. Struggled with drugs for years. Have been clean for 12 years now. So please get your son out of that situation. He deserves so much better.
Those two drugs are totally indistinguishable when consumed intravenously. The only give away is when H is cut with trash. Otherwise you can not tell there is a difference.
@@For891they feel completely different IVd. Not true.
It does that to women. I’ve seen it with women specifically. It makes them aggressive.
Dope sick series was outstanding and a real real eye opener. They will make anther one in 20 yrs about covid
Nice to see Peter again...I worked on Shocker doing craft services back in 1989 and he was sooo cool! We'd always talk sports!😅👍🏼
Richard Sackler has never said he is sorry.... because he isn't
Why they are not in prison for a long time is beyond me
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Prison? People are so soft. We have been pacified and are now docile, screaming for our crooked judicial system to solve our problems. Sheesh
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People with money don't go to prison, they are legal criminals
Peter Berg is story-telling excellence personified
I swear I saw him in my city and he denied that it was him
Dopesick is about the Sacklers and OxyContin too. Excellent series. Mustn’t be missed
Dr in Oregon put me on opioids well before it became a National issue. By time I realized what I was on the scrip was for 240 1000mg Vicodin and 60 80mg OxyContin per month. It was for tennis elbow. I’m lucky I didn’t die but that’s why I can’t sue. Was told that I can’t sue because I’m alive and no damage was done. I beg to differ.
Thats crazy for tennis elbow. Usually it’s heat/cold compress, anti-inflammatories, physical therapy and cortisone injections at least its what I went through.
That's bs. You can absolutely sue so long as you can prove that it caused addiction that further interfered with your health, and or that they refused to explore other treatment options.
What nobody is saying is how detrimental these pain medications are on the liver!
Holy shit, for a tennis elbow? Those are some serious amounts of opiates for that shit. How long were did you had that presciption for?
I believe Reagan passed the bill where you can’t sue pharmaceutical companies
In the movie a call went to the White House from a Senator who then called the DOJ to reach a deal with Purdue. This was the first case brought against them. The Sackler family managed to hold on to their personal money assets etc with no criminal charges or anyone going to jail. There has to be a special place in hell not only for the family but all those connected directly or indirectly in this horror show. It is interesting that the drug dealer standing on the corner gets the book thrown at them but the actual producer of the lethal drug gets to walk among us free.
I was contacted by lawyers and added to the class action lawsuit against Purdue. Well it’s been like 4-5 years and it just continues to go on with appeals and everything.
I’m part of that class action too. Lol. I get stuff in the mail every once a while about it. Not a quick process.
@@84kjk yeah I get an email every so often that there’s been another set back. Probably go through all this and get $100 and the lawyers get millions.
It wasn't a senator, it was Rudy Giuliani
What's the movie bro
Great interview!
Glad to hear this on a big platform
I have a persistent cough... been dealing with it for years. Nurse Practitioner gave me a prescription for codeine at one point. Started taking it, felt great. Slept through the night like a baby. No cough. But even when I wasn't coughing I remember thinking while at work "wow, can't wait to go home and take my codeine." I literally remember having that exact thought and then I got real scared. Went home and dumped the codeine. Never took it again. That was just CODINE. I cannot begin to imagine how addictive something like Oxy/Morphine/Heroin is, something that literally alters your brain chemistry and your body has to have it. The people who make this shit and profited from it... they have much to answer for beyond money. You work every day, stressed out, body filled with cortisol. These sacklers raped the country, destroyed innumerable lives and families.. .sure they lost some of their wealth and their legacy, but they still have generational wealth and don't have to work a day in their lives.
You're allowed to kill in the name of profit under capitalism
If you kill your husband to collect insurance money, you go to prison for life. If you kill millions of people to collect (health) insurance money, you become a billionaire
great that you figured out a potential problem early. opioids and stimulants are fucking evil.
fortunately, i have never had an issue with either, despite having experimented with both.
You do know that the body converts codeine into morphine right???
@@BallzMcGavin ackshually
@@sahaynam6470 The problem is that Codeine hits people with varying levels of strength. If you're a Codeine "resistant" guy you can sip it all night. The same amount of Codeine in another person might result in 10 times the opioid activity
He was a fantastic actor in the movie Copland! One of the most underrated movies in my opinion
I watched the Netflix docuseries on this and was blown away.. but not shocked
Dopesick was a great series. Looking forward to seeing this as well.
I have a love/hate relationship with Joe… but this is the reason why I love watching his show. The guy have a platform that’s open to the truth seekers!
He just needs to stop interrupting the guests when they have something interesting to say, it's frustrating af
You’ve got guys serving 20+ years in prison for serving a demand that was created by this family. Meanwhile they made off in the wind with billions, no consequence
Consequences are plenty you just do not see them, trust me the spirit world is alive.
people that sell drugs illegally know that there are consequences. same as for breaking any law. those people that are locked up are not victims, they are trash. no one forced them to break the law for profit.
@@toddinthemiddle todd you are totally correct, however your argument falls short on "profit"
@@toddinthemiddle you completely missed the point. They are there because they served a demand that was created by the true kingpins that are the sackler family. The entire epidemic exist because of them. They knew they had an addictive product and pushed for it to be sold anyway. Do you get it now? Take attention of the little guy and look at the people who gave them a job in the first place. Not a single one of them has done prison time.
Didn't the regulatory agencies approve this drug aren't they really the ones to blame? This is in no way defending the family but seriously anyone can make a drug but it can't be passed onto the customer legally unless the FDA approves its use and a doctor then prescribes it. The family didn't even invent the drug. Chemists and doctors did. The family were merely shareholders.
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Oxycontin took 10 years of my life away from me and completely altered the course of my life forever. I always wonder who I would have become or what I could have achieved, if it hadn't been for that drug. To this today, I'm still taking Subutex everyday and I pray I never get seriously injured, as I'm now "red flagged" in my medical records as being an abuser of opiates. Even when I gave birth to my daughter and was in severe pain, all I was offered was an 800 mg Tylenol.
Only offered Tylenol is ridiculous. All people deserve pain management and relief even with a history of opioid use disorder.
I got off oxycontin about 13 years ago, hardest thing I have ever done. I live in a small city and can think of atleast a dozen people who passed from it during that time.
Love Peter Berg. Friday Night Lights was such a fun show.
Someone needs to hold that man accountable for all the millions of people that drug has killed.ive seen whole family's die off from oxy,litterly the whole family.i got strungout on oxy when I was 15 and just hitting 40 and I feel like I'm lucky to still be here....
Best example of the revolving door is Scott Gottlieb - jumped into pharma quicker than a hiccup after FDA
Good conversation as always
Very timely. I just finished watching Painkiller in Netflix
The Netflix doc-u-series on this is a must watch
Because of the backlash to this, people like me who suffer chronic pain had to suffer. I had to jump thru so many hoops in order to get some relief. They supposedly have a 5 Dr panel that has to give approval on my insurance. What these people did was atrocious, just for $$$. It sickens me.
I agree with what this has done to chronic pain pts that managed their meds well and now live in pain
@@tommyp1494Hell these "pain clinics" were doing the same thing on the table. Where do you think the kid at your school was getting them from? It's amazing to me that they were even allowed to manufacture that many pills much less sell them. This was intentional and there is nothing you can say to make me believe otherwise. It was like you described, EVERYWHERE! Those pills were in every other house across the country. They knew how many they made. Smh
I hate how it's affected dentistry. I had a tooth infection with crippling pain that wouldn't allow me to sleep, wound up having to get it yanked after waiting all weekend, they won't give you anything now. I used to love getting a couple vicodin for the day of a procedure like that and for the next day. Would have especially loved it those sleepless nights. I actually thought I had convinced a dentist to show mercy and he wrote a script for a few Tylenol 3 but by the time I got to the pharmacy he had canceled it and prescribed ibuprofen instead. I didn't even bother, had a bottle at home if I wanted that. But I also know people with chronic conditions, the hoops they have to jump through are nuts, if they weren't just cut off cold turkey to begin with like a lot of people.
@@D-Fens_1632 you should be thankful. of course, you don't see it that way.
I still get it no problem here in Canada. I get more than I need.
The government NOT locking them all up and throwing away the key is their way of giving the thumbs up to their behavior. Sure, they fined them. But they were fined pocket-change. If the punishment is anything less than life in prison for a crime of this magnitude, it is government approved.
Government ENABLED them, they would have to persecute themselves.....read: not happening
Makes you wonder. Whatever ethno-religous protection do these people enjoy? What powerful lobby protects them?
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Well sure the fed approves. This stuff keeps the population dumb, docile, and distracted.
@@deanoost9599We all know. This was intentional. I made another comment about how they knew how many pills they were manufacturing and how strong they were. There aren't that many people in that severe of pain. They let this shit get legally passed out like they were fucking tic tacs.
I had a terrible back injury and they kept trying to push Oxy on me, I declined it over and over and I’m so glad I didn’t let them talk me into taking them.
I still can not believe this was even possible to happen. Still Under total shock. After watched “Painkiller”, Reading those comments here is so heartbroking.
I used to snort OC 80’s back in the mid 2000’s … what a time … unfortunately was addicted to them for 8 long years what a nightmare … been sober for 8 years
Same here but injected them ..80s and ms contin 100s
I needed a dual fasciotomy due to compartment syndrome 3 years ago and OxyCotin got me through some insane pain. I couldn't get out of bed without it for the first 18 months and at one stage was taking it 6 times a day. pain relief
My dad took it as well during his years with cancer. It was the only way to control the pain. Unfortunately it helps some but it does a lot of damage to others. I took it briefly after 3 surgeries and it helped. I never got addicted. Addiction doesn't run in my family, thank God. I feel sorry for those who endured tragedies from its use.
The closest thing to justice would be to take every penny the entire family, their company, and all of the executives & anyone heavily involved with the company have ever earned. The Sacklers should also receive capital punishment, shown publicly.
Best idea... take their money away and put it towards dealing with the opiod crisis happening everywhere. They created the problem now they can fix it.
in 2021 i was barely 21 and i got in a accident and ended up breaking my hip and femur and while in the hospital in seattle they gave me fentanyl while in the hospital and when i got out they gave me so much oxycodone that stuff really messed me up I couldn’t even take the 20 they gave me fast forward i go to my next appointment a month later and was told i needed a refill and when i went i still had 17 and they were so confused on why i wasn’t taking them.I just knew after taking the couple what it was doing to me i couldn’t do it.. They do that to get people addicted to that stuff it’s really messed up
Meanwhile both my parents and brother is dead because of it
Really sorry to hear that you've lost your family due to these criminals... Pray that you have the energy to live everyday out there..❤
I have lost a lot of friends because of pills over the years too
Thoughts and well wishes for anyone effected by this and any other pill and this god awful fentanyl
I love you and I also will forever crave this evil evil drug because of what they did. It is still ruining my life to this day currently. Thanks Purdue
I just found my twin Brother od:d on opioids And benzos….Im so lost without him😢
This dude is awesome. He knows what he likes, he knows what his artistic pathway looks like and he does not apologize for any of it. I love it.
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I'm so glad this is all coming out into the light and people are starting to talk about it!!! Mental health services are so underfunded and massively overwhelmed.... hundreds of beds in rehab facilities are being closed everyday!!!! I've been an addict for over 20 years in recovery for 8 years and I'm so tired of burying my friends....
This guy is a great actor! He seems super cool in real life, nice interview!
Awesome actor since great white hype.. had NO idea he was a better director?
Peter Berg is awesome.
what a series painkiller was one of the best i’ve seen for a while. ferris bueller was sick as sackler
Oxy was the start of my downfall , the main reason my life was in shambles for 10 yrs, oxy got to expensive so i moved to tar, thankfully i met my wife and she gave me 3 beautiful kids and stuck by me thru and thru, ff to know i wouldn't change a thing, hitting rock bottom was all it took for me to realize i needed to change b4 i lost everything in life i ever wanted, it was yhe hardest and best thing i have ever done.. if your struggling you to can get over that hump...you just have to be sick and tired of the whole process
Congratulations. I am happy for you and your family. You could have ended up like the guy in the documentary.
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Now it makes sense why Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize :) Frauds attract Frauds. In Nobel's defense there are alot of practical uses for dynamite - there are very few for a souless community organizer becoming US President.
Good shit good shit Be Safe ✌🏼
This was a really interesting segment
They prescribed this to my lill sister 20 years ago for her migraines that were bothering her….. what we witnessed thru the years of addiction that followed you would think was a bad horror movie that never ended… it finally did this year as she died…to all that was left behind they are left with the memories of torture she was strung along thru by the doctors and their pharma buddies..so the effects ripple out to more than just the victims…my lill sister had everything going for her and was aware too late what they did… she was trying to get better …
"Pain Management" was the first Andrew Vachss novel I ever read(may he rest in peace) I went back to his older stuff and he was writing about child trafficking in the 80's, as he was working for the FBI back then. He eventually got his law degree, did pro investigations bono for kids, and wrote books based on what he had seen.
I read all of those in the late 90s. Some good books.
He knew what was going on. So did his friend Roderick Thorp, who created the character behind Die Hard
Good work Joe
I know this guy from Wes Craven's Shocker. I loved that movie as a kid, but he's come a long way.
I really need everyday to walk with lees pain and I got tumor too but they don't about me and I care about everybody Dr,cop,firefright, good ppl around world god blessed all of y'all
This should be the biggest story in America right now
I was extra and Jamie Fox’s stand in(no bs) in the movie “The Kingdom” filmed in Mesa, Az back in 06. Let me tell you, Mr Berg was the NICEST person darn near on the set! He literally asked all our names(I was a extra in the opening scene explosion, there were stuntmen/stuntwoman too) and would graciously thank us! It was my first time on a major movie set and it f’d my mind up how nice he was. The AD’s were d*cks though.