The Fate of My 1962 Gibson Les Paul... (Ebony Block SG)
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Today, we discuss the Fate of my 1962 Gibson Les Paul (SG) that I purchased from the original family earlier this month. When it came to me, the neck pickup was dead, the nut was cracked, it was missing a saddle, it was dirty and missing the original case! I fixed (most) of these issues in today's installment.
I've decided not to keep this piece. It was sold to me with the understanding that it would be put up for sale to find a forever home. After the initial demo, I was pretty keen on just keeping it myself - but ultimately, I'm going to focus on the Norlin Era through the Henry J era for my museum so I'm going to let this one go for the time being. If I ever start collecting McCarty Eras... I'm sure I'll regret selling this as the Ebony Block SGs are the coolest! I had fun documenting and restoring this one and I hope you enjoyed watching it.
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0:00 - Intro - Check Links in the Description
0:01 - Story Recap
1:40 - The Guitar Without The Pickup
2:10 - What Was Wrong & How It Was Fixed
5:02 - Verifying It's Alive
5:30 - The Arm Is Most Definitely Replaced
6:07 - Pickups Readings
6:39 - About the Nut
7:34 - Clean Tones
9:21 - Dirty Tones
11:20 - Case Replacement
12:53 - The Included Amp
14:40 - What Is Its Fate?
16:50 - Why Didn't I Just Test the Pickups?!
18:16 - Happy Holidays!
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Hey trogly I'd like to buy that amp.message me and we will make a deal..
I still have a GA-40T I bought in high school, very similar to your amp. It’s called the Mariner though. Very warm amp with nice breakup at the edge.
Merry Christmas Trogs and Family!! Awesome video..Wow that guitar is FAB!!
Malcom Young did the same thing with guitars he had by removing the neck pickup. If you're ever unsure if you compare an item you know to be chrome to one you're not sure and vice versa the nickel will look slightly yellowish in most cases in contrast to the chrome. Don't beat yourself up on the nut. Don't know what you used to try and repair the nut but some glues are like water in the aspect of if it can seep out or you another spot it will. Less is more as far as glue goes. Some people use more glue than neccessary and that is one of the problems that occurs. The other is that it doesn't set correctly if theres to much sometimes and you may end up repeating the repair. My Greenburst like many Gibsons you have received had a loose strap button on the tail. I put glue in but misjudged and I ended up with some expanding out around the button. It happens. I'm going to repeat myself here. This guitar is the closest to getting a birth year model as I'm sure I'll ever see. I don't know that you plan to flip it or what but if you ever consider it if I could I'd jump on the chance. Some of the 60s model Fender amps have one or two things that happen. My 65 Deluxe Reverb ) real deal not a reissue) will sometimes have one or the tunes loosen or completely drop out of its socket. Most cases it causes the same issue no sound.
Merry Christmas Austin and your family. Also to those who I have chatted with here and those who I haven't.
I have a 1961 Les Paul, I received it for my 11th birthday (Feb 9) in 1964. I am the original owner. It was on the wall of the music store where I was taking lessons. It's as clean as the '62 you have. That was a big day for me, I got the '61 LP and a tweed deluxe. Later that evening I watched the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, subsequently I became a full time professional musician and still remain a full time player. The guitar has been very well taken care of and includes the original gator skin case. It's all original. I don't play it out much, but I did play it on the 50th anniversary of the Beatles on Ed Sullivan show. It's an amazing sounding PAF monster. It nails the Clapton 'woman tone' effortlessly. I'll be 70 in about 6 weeks. I'm not working as much as in the past and would be open to selling it. I have pics available. Have a Merry Christmas and thanks for posting this video.
Nice👍thanks for sharing!
We have same Bday.(1983). I started playing and got my first guitar on my 10th bday 93’
Where could I see the listing of this guitar?
@@ronswary
I was 11 in 93'
I didn't get interested in guitar till later in the 90s. It was about 96' or 97' when I picked up guitar!🤟
How much?
I'm gonna say it,,, I think this is too nice to sell you have to put this one in your personal collection,, this is pretty much the perfect vibey SG and it's in such great condition, the slightly faded cherry is beautiful, seriously this one should be a definite keeper if I were in your shoes
Yeah, I mean if you have the funds to keep it, it will literally pay your kids college tuition, a great offer on this guitar today, will be a low ball offer in 5 years time
@@ciggy_ What price we talking out of curiosity?
Yeah but it has finish checking so that's a no-go for Trogly 😂
He recorded the history himself and had to put work into it, he’s gonna get too attached to let go lol. Also it’s so beautiful
It’s kind of funny really’ I mean no disrespect to Austin but u can’t always find a guitar of that era especially that is in as mint condition as u like and in Austin’s case the condition is just so hard to come by’ I mean it’s a 62 SG! It’s amazing to find one at all let alone one that is that tidy with PRF’s I would just keep it’ if u are starting museum that is just such a prefect addition to the collection as far as I’m concerned 😉🎸
Well it’s Christmas and to every one out there have the Merriest Christmas possible. And to to the Trogly family thank you for all your hard work this year. Have a merry Christmas.
And to you me ole mate 🤘🏼😀🇦🇺
Lindy Fralin is an awesome, down to earth expert who also makes great pickups! I once called his shop to ask a question about pickups and Lindy himself answered. We went on to talk about how we went to the same high school (about 25 years apart). Such a chill dude and I love that he only charged his normal rewind price!
Thank you for the Doors reference. Robbie Krieger is THE most underrated 60s guitar player. The people he influenced who influenced you don't fully realize what an influence he was on them.
Yes, I just said that that way.
Sounds amazing, glad you got Fralin to redo the neck pickup. I hope going forward you let the big name experts handle repairs on vintage guitars. :)
Thanks Trogly - this was an awesome continuation of the story of the OG Les Paul. For a guitar that’s more than 60 years old you have done it, and the original owners justice. The full demo with the refurbed pick,up sure serves up some sweet tones complete with some tasty crunch. Love the show and as someone who is new to guitar, your wealth of knowledge has been a treat to absorb.
Wishing you and your dear ones a Merry Christmas 🎄and a Happy New Year 🎉from Vancouver Island, British Columbia Canada 🇨🇦
Thanks again for the videos.
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I wish you would review and document more vintage guitars like this. It would really help vintage guitar enthusiasts and those that are buying to know more about what to look for in specs and appointments. It is one thing to read about it in a book, but another to see it in video. Thanks very much for this video. Merry Christmas.
That is exactly what I thought happened, the enamel coating on the wire over a long period of time. will get brittle. and it will chip or crack in the winding of the pickup causing a short. it happens occasionally on much older vintage guitars. and it's a little more common on single coil pickups. you made an excellent choice having Lindy Fralin looks at that pickup. because he and his staff are extremely knowledgeable about most all pickups. especially much older vintage pickups. and he has as close to period correct wire as a person can get. and he has the most period correct wax for wax potting. and the most important thing is his knowledge of the correct spec's for all the pickups. the most important being the amount of winds of the wire. since the amount winds determines the ohm's resistance and the tone of the pickup. back when the pickups were made for that guitar they were hand wound. and now they have a machine specially designed to wind pickups. that has a counter on it so they can tell how many winds of wire are in the spool of the pickup. so he can get it right back within spec..and the also knows what the correct spacing between the pickup and the strings should be. so with Mr Fralin's help you should be able to get that AWESOME guitar back to original spec's. without it being devalued very much.
So...the Gibson guy gets a true vintage Gibson guitar with original PAFs. And decided to sell it, OR trade it for a FENDER!!! Don't you blaspheme in here! Don't you blaspheme in here!!!
I'll be honest... I can understand if that's the guitar for you. But I'd keep the ole SG
Its a crime to separate the amp from this guitar- its a beautiful slice of history. Get it together trogs, that pair together are 1000x cooler than anything youve showcased on this channel. Plus, theyre worth way more together.
Awesomeness!! Send that amp to Uncle Doug Trogs!! He will video the complete overhaul if needed and give us all a great lesson on what this amp actually puts out and how it performs!! Get it done!!
Troy send it to Uncle Doug any thing Fender he is the MAN.
Adding another vote for the Uncle Doug / Trog collaboration!
That is a magnificent instrument. I love the tones and Chloe gave it 2 paws up.
Who the hell is Chloe?
@@wretchedrider2157 his alter ego perhaps haha ✌️
youre already part of the story of that guitar, why not go all in and have the amp checked and repaired if needed? the guitar and amp has a story together and should stay together. i think whoever buys the set from you will appreciate the cool story of the set. merry christmas!!! :)
As if he cares, he is only concerned with profit.
The odds are - I’ll have to ship this to its new home. Shipping amps is not fun
Listed on Reverb for $26,500. Oof.
Get out of flipper mode for just a moment to realize that this one is a keeper
Believe me - I’m in keeper mode hardcore right now since it is the end of the year. This is a great piece but I have to focus on what I’m actually trying to build
Let the dude do what he wants. He’s an expert and has a great business
@@hughschick6847 if he wants a museum with stuff he likes who are you to tell him otherwise. Start your own if you know it all
This thing is the best sounding SG I have not heard in person. Would be hard to part with for sure
Send that amp to Fazzio Electric and let her do a show on checking it out and getting it back to working conditions. She's the best.
@@dumpyd That's because a lot of the techs are not very technical 🤣 I think that amp was purchased with the guitar and that makes it interesting as far as the story. I wouldn't seperate the two...but then again I would never sell either piece.
Merry Christmas, Austin. You took quite a bit of grief over the super glue (me included) that was a little harsh, but, not to try and add any more negativity - I'm pointing it out because it sounds like you're not understanding something and I wouldn't want you to do it again.
When taping something off, you have to make sure that ALL the tape close to the possible invader is smoothed down, pressed down, whatever you would like to call it. You keep saying the glue got under it - it can't do that if the tape is securely attached to the surface. You have to make sure ALL the area of tape surrounding the target spot is smoothed over and attached to the surface completely that it is protecting. Running a credit card over it in your case would have probably done the trick to ensure full adhesion.
I only say this because I am a painter, and we learn that after having to repaint enough times!
Nuts are generally glued on with a dab of wood glue so can be popped off easily to avoid damage ironically : ) I own an original a 62 ebony block. Not as clean as this one but is the best sounding guitar I own. It is naturally a really loud guitar compared to my newer ones.. Great video and thanks for sharing this one! Happy Holidays!
I recently paid a tech to replace my nut and he did such a bad job (the b string was filed way too low and sounded like a sitar) I decided I would just learn how to don't myself. I conxluded its actually quite easy. I was most worried about removing the old nut but after a little scoring around the edges, one tap against a wood block and it came loose. Then its just a matter of filing and sanding until it feels and sounds right.
@@kevinr.3542 It really is like that huh, you get burned by a lazy tech once and then you learn that _one_ thing isn't as hard as it seemed and suddenly you're doing 99% of all setup things yourself
@@metallsnubben exactly. finding a luthier is definitely the way to go. a lot of guitar techs are glorified string changers. ive had more than a few disappointing set ups with bad intonation.
My first amp was a Gibson Minuteman which I regret selling. I gigged it early on 1964 - 66 or so when I replaced it with a Vox AC-30. The Minuteman with it's reverb was a truly flexible and enjoyable amp.
Send your amp to Psionic Amps in Memphis. Lloyd will get the amp better than new.
Wudnt lyle do a better job tho?🤔😁
It's Festivus for the rest of us!
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays to all! If you’re traveling tomorrow please be safe.
Gibson pushed the ebony block stock with both the tusk and teaspoon I believe but imo, getting a nickel teaspoon is a great move especially for resale, tusk arms are always a great parts drawer addition if you ever dive further into “super vintage” too + most of the 60s examples in reach bare chrome hardware/tremolos. Fantastic conclusion to a jaw dropping example! Merry Christmas!!
The show was interesting. At least you documented that thing and it still needs work! I can make a nut for it. Other than that, it's all. I have all kinds of material for a nut too. Bone, tusk, ivoy to Corean (Music Man uses crazy hard plastic). To metals like brass - a lot of work to mold brass but does slowly slow!
my '61 Les Paul Custom came with the same case you found !!
That reminds me of a 65 super reverb I bought at a thrift shop like $80.
Now, the original speakers were gone in place of a generic 15", and the electronics were original, and toast, and it had some ugly brown fabric as a grille cloth. I bought new grille cloth, decided to stay with the 15" speaker (new warehouse) and took it to LA and had all of the electronics (tubes included) replaced. The Tolex was still on good shape. I ended up dumping like $700 into it, and while it was nowhere near original, it sounded beautiful. Problem was, I lived in an upstairs apartment that shook when I turned it higher than 4, and I had no gigs, so no practical use for it. I enjoyed it for a few months and ended up selling it to a young guy who sounded great playing my Tele through it. I was sad to see it go, but I got about as much out of it as I put into it, and now somebody's loving it for sure.
Many thanks! Christmas came early. Long ago I had a '61 that CMI says dated to Nov-Dec of 1960. Heartwarming
I have a vintage Gibson amp and I love it. It’s a G-30 from the 70’s. Solid state combo with spring reverb and tremolo. It’s basically Gibson’s version of a Fender Princeton Reverb. There’s no gain knob on it and I love using it with pedals. Without that gain knob I feel like I have complete control of the tones. Sounds great clean too. It’s actually a really good clean jazz amp. I hate jazz though. It was my brothers first amp when he started playing around 1980. He handed down to me When I started playing in the mid 90’s. I didn’t really appreciate back then. Years ago I discovered it in my moms basement and brought it home. I cleaned it up and just fell in love with the tone.
If you take a little lemon juice on a Q-tip and rub the new solder it will take the shine off and no one would know it was worked on.
Merry Christmas all!!!
$800 for a untested amp ??????
Merry Xmas! Thanks for all the great content in 2022.
Another great video! I really enjoyed the first one on this guitar. And I love this follow up.
Les Pauls are my favorite guitars. And the early Les Paul/SGs are really interesting. I currently own a couple of SGs. Both Epiphones. I operate in a different price tier than you do. One is a 61 Special and the other is the new Worn Cherry with P90s. I intended to sell the 61 Special when I bought the Worn Cherry with P90s, but when I got it, I spent some time with both of them, and they are so different, and both so good.
I’m really trying to do a one in one out strategy right now. Trying to keep my collection to lucky number 13.
But, damn. I’m having a hard time figuring out which guitar I could let go.
First world problem, for sure.
I really enjoy your videos and your passion for guitars.
And, we seem to have similar taste in guitars. Although your budget is definitely different than mine. And congrats for that.
Carry on, Trogly. 👍
Z is for merry Christmas everyone.
Merry Christmas sarge
@@maspesasmasperras5554 merry Christmas and may you be blessed for the coming year.
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Merry Christmas Sgt.
Merry Christmas sgt!
Live and learn for content creators! Rushing a job to get out a quick video is a bad idea. Seducing yourself out of proper restoration steps can be damaging to a historical item, and possibly to your reputation.
Full disclosure here is honourable at least.
It's a Christmas Miracle!!
You go Trogly. What a nice guitar. Thanks for all the specs on those vintage guitars. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas.
And nothing about the glue on the headstock.
@@cataclysmicconverter He only mentioned it happened. Nothing about the damage or repairing it.
@@cataclysmicconverter I was expecting him to discuss a repair or possible repair work on the glue damage but he glossed over it. Understandable, it's embarrassing.
No worries about the glue on the headstock. They likely can razor that off and polish it like new.
Merry Christmas to all and thank you for what you do Austin! I have learned many things here and I am a humble follower!🎅🏼🎄
I second this. Merry Christmas to all
I’m from Richmond Va. I’ve met Lindy Frailen. He’s a good guy, and damn good at what he does.
I’ve just bought a Japanese made Ibanez. Later I noticed there’s glue residue on the fretboard around fret 12-13.
I’d say even professional messed up with glue. In my case it’s worse as their QA didn’t spot the error, neither did I.
So don’t blame yourself too hard :).
PS I can’t just go to the store and return it. I’ve got it from Japan. By the time I notice it, I was already at home.
For those interested Fralin site for pickup repair states $30 for inspection fee, plus return postage, then $100 per coil. Not quite the breakdown here.
Trogly paid $125, not including postage. Sounds pretty close.
For the record even re-sale can still be to good home.
Merry Christmas everyone
How fantastic to see an original 1963 Gibson GA 40T Kalamazoo. Wow
Merry Christmas, Austin, everybody! All I want for Christmas is, a low rider sparkle, double neck, Thanks, Gibson.
The super glue thing would haunt me forever, if I did it. But obviously there are way to remove it, without hurting the finish. Always enjoy your show. Thank you.... Jay
I really enjoyed this follow up about the guitar. I would definitely consider holding onto this guitar, you have a real treasure. I actually have some questions concerning pickups that I would love to ask Lindy Fralin. How would I go about contacting him?
If you did want to have a qualified tech go through either one of these, I can’t recommend psionic audio enough. Very thorough and the results are amazing. He’s based in Memphis. but you can check out his CZcams channel.
I was going to suggest Psionic Audio too! That is the best amp channel on CZcams.
If it's any help, next time you can just "give" it to me and I'll save you all the headache. I mean, an Epiphone Probucker would sound just as good as a PAF and a Graph Tech nut would work just as well..... 😉😂
I really enjoy the info in episodes like this!
Merry Christmas young man!
Baking soda + superglue = superfast drying artificial bone for fixing nuts and acoustic saddles. You only have a few seconds to shape it or get everything in position.
Merry Christmas!!
What a magnificent sounding beast. A fabulous instrument.
Maybe the neck pickup was originally the bridge pickup and was swapped around when it stopped working? That would explain why it’s hotter than the bridge now.
But weren't the solder joints on the pots untouched?
@@justinkase8642 right, Gibson didn’t measure the resistance of them before putting them in the guitars in 1962. It was just random installation. It’s not a surprise to end up with a hotter pickup in the neck position. It’s a coin toss.
Amazing guitar ! Can't wait for tomorrow's episode! Thanks again 😊
The seller learned well from being scammed out of a car. She thought "hmm, scammed out of something eh, that gives me an idea. Where's that old guitar with the bad pickup, poorly done repairs and a case that looks like a granny owned it? Oh there it is, now if I can find somebody who will pay me a large amount for it without even plugging it in first the scam will go perfectly".
That's my guitar right there. Nothing prettier than an SG.
Merry Christmas to everyone celebrating tonight and tomorrow!
Hey Austin. Merry Christmas from down under. We're ahead of you so we're already celebrating. I'll have a cold beer in your honour.
Had a tweed Gibson Falcon amp.
Loved that thing.
They really should reissue them.
Had the same foot switch.
There's something that doesn't appeal to me about SGs. It's odd because they I like Les Pauls and they are an evoloved Les Paul. But nothing about them appeals to me bar the weight.
Merry Christmas All!!!
On the first video, I just saw les paul and 1960's and my brain stopped. Thought you had one of those first 100 1968 les pauls with the crown headstock.
A keeper for sure. To find a pre 70 SG in that condition is rare these days, particularly one that is largely original. Most of the 60's SGs I have seen no longer have their original pickups and tuners. The value of the pickups is almost funny, I remember the first guitar shop I worked in having tin full of "useless old pickups", several of them were original PAFs, no one wanted them. They were typically swapped out for Seymour Duncans or Dimarzios (popular at the time).
Merry Christmas to you and yours Trogly, all the best :)
Where you went wrong was the super glue's consistency.. Looks like you went with the "water thin", super thin type with the way it crept under the tape like that. Oh well, but still a tough way to learn. 😬 You really ought to keep it!
Merry Rockin' Christmas.
Merry Christmas and excellent show... Those humbuckers are perfectly ringing in the New Year!!!
I had a 75 sg.i loved the power of the pickups..🤟👍👍
i use a 65 mustang with only a neck pickup, when my best friend bought it, the guitar had a vintage fender kuknife humbucker in the neck and the original mustang pickup in the bridge. my best friend patched the neck route he had planned on putting another original mustang pickup in the neck. well shortly after he shot himself in the head with a shot gun. he was my best friend in the world we had been band mate for 12 or 13 year and best of friends closer than brothers anyways his family knew this and gave me all his music equipment as they knew he would have wanted me to have it. same as if i would have died. so I finished routing the neck pickup cavity. I put the mustangs bridge pick up in the neck position and a dollar bill cover the bridge route. Washington is peaking out at you. now I dont have to deal with the mustangs terrible switches. the mustang is just a back up to my 63 and 64 jaguars guitrars missing pickups can be pretty cool thing. i did the oppistie of what most do just going with the neck. i wanted to go for a big throaty neck tone
I rather enjoyed this.. merry Christmas Trogly! Enjoy your guitar 🎸🎄💖😊
Cool amps. You should chat with Uncle Doug, he has a youtube channel, he is a retired teacher living in El Paso, TX. He does amazing work and he LOVES old amps.
Merry Christmas everybody and have a great new year 🤘👍👏🎸
I just refurbished a 1965 Gibson Falcon . I am the tube amp whisperer. If I lived near you I would love to fix that amp up.
Trog, what do you use to clean your guit fiddles and necks?
I always replace the nuts with polished brass the ton of gold plating Done forever in compound angles.Teflon pasted
You should have used that Gibson amp for this demo. Whatever amp you were playing through sounded anemic.
Neck sounds dead to be so hot wound... But that middle position... Somehow perfect.
That's my birth yr guitar
My dad had a 60s SG, I want to say early 60s. He had some financial problems and sold it without even asking me :(
I doubt anyone here would have it, it was this same color, finish was very worn and cracked, and there was a huge gash in the neck, around the 12th fret I think. Sounds rough, but she was a beast! I miss that guitar.
I have a 68 SG Std, and your LP sounds just like it. Mine has the T tops. Good luck 👍
Get the amp in working order, and, set it up to demo at the museum. Since it is an actual ( Gibson Les Paul ), Amp. Just my two cents. & Merry Christmas to all of you and your families!! 🎄🎼🎸🎄
I wish Gibson would do some amp reissues now that they own Mesa Boogie
I notice a lot of you guitar guys you talk about the ‘electronics’ but a few pots, capacitors and wires aren’t electronics they’re electrics.
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If I had twenty six grand laying around, I'd buy it NOW! But I don't, so I'll just have to be happy with the guitars I already have. I turly hope that it WILL go to a good home.
I would definitely keep it, it is a one in a lifetime guitar!
MERRY CHRISTMAS TROGLY, AND ALL VIEWERS
I would swap the neck to the bridge and bridge to neck with those readings. Cool guitar!
You should do an episode where you try out a bunch of Fralin pickups: pure PAF, hum-canceling p90 (humbucker size), HC 90 with alnico rods, sunbucker, twangmaster, some of the mini humbucker offerings etc.
5000 dollar pickup, wow, I had no idea that was a thing, of course I've heard of PAF but damn
Hm
Merry Christmas with a Gold Medal Scott
@@sgt.grinch3299 thank you Sgt merry Christmas! 😃
You just won the Mary Christmas wallmart edition you are very amazing 🍪 🍪 🍪
@@rondobondo6600 Thank you! 😃merry Christmas to you
Merry Christmas Austin and family 😁
Merry Christmas!
The SG player riffs are my favorite part of this video
Actually the bridge pickup sounds hotter than the neck pickup which is weird since it has a higher DCR reading than the bridge pickup but then again that would also depends on the height of the pickup itself like the neck pickup to be adjusted higher to match the bridge pickup which may have to be lowered to balance the sound of both combined.
There is a product called "naval jelly' that is used to remove rust from steel, and it will dull/oxidize those shiny solder joints and make them look 60 years old in about 10 seconds.
Thanks dude… I’m going to die alone with no guitars left. Yay me. p.s. If you want to work on the nut, do it. I replaced the nut on one of my old (40+ years) cut and sanded it and it works perfectly!
I REALLY want to know what exactly goes wrong when a pickup goes dead, cause i know there's no moving parts at all, and i only have the rudimentary idea of what goes on in a pickup anyway.
well, glad i got my answer further in the video. makes sense to me lol