The 2023 Porsche 911 Carrera T Manual Is A Perfectly Balanced Purist Sports Car

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  • čas přidán 17. 02. 2023
  • With so many flavors, the #Porsche911 is a near perfect sports car made for enthusiasts. For 2023, #Porsche is expanding the family with the #911CarreraT, with the #CarreraT serving as the cheapest way to get a #911Carrera in the 7-speed manual form. Despite having only the base 379 HP twin-turbo F-6, this #911T offers plenty of thrills for most enthusiasts.
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Komentáře • 141

  • @cigarjefe
    @cigarjefe Před rokem +37

    This has to be the best overall vehicle made today. The balance between raw speed, simplicity, and aggression is absolutely sublime.

  • @KirkKreifels
    @KirkKreifels Před rokem +39

    Rob is still waiting for me to catch up in the Type R 🤣

    • @silver545454
      @silver545454 Před rokem

      Kirk please review the 911 T also! You and Sofyan both are magnificent!!

  • @chrisdennis1348
    @chrisdennis1348 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I don't see the value or benefit for anyone to negatively judge others because they want to and can afford to buy any Porsche.
    Owning a sports car is for fun, and I can support that. We have way too much negativity in our discourse as it is. Let's appreciate that we have the opportunity to explore this hobby now and that great cars are available for all interested buyers.

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg5485 Před rokem +32

    You can get a tune on this engine from a number of shops at this point. I love the simplicity of the T and, yes, it already has plenty of power out of the box. That said, Porsche's pricing is downright criminal. They have no shame when it comes to price gouging.

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 Před rokem +3

      Watching this I just went on their site to configure one for fun (as I can't afford it for real). Around $115k to start, and you can easily get $20k worth of options on a car that should have them standard for 6-digit price tag.
      I understand this is for a different target demographic, but come on...

    • @wayneedwards5515
      @wayneedwards5515 Před rokem +1

      I agree 100%.

    • @jeffreykilpatrick3592
      @jeffreykilpatrick3592 Před rokem +2

      You can buy a corvette if you want to save some money. Or there are lots of used Porsche sports cars. But there are no cars like a Porsche 911.

    • @dlg5485
      @dlg5485 Před rokem

      @@jeffreykilpatrick3592 You won't find any deals on the pre-owned market either. Porsche buyers are too willing to overpay and that isn't going to end anytime soon. I actually would consider a C8 Corvette at some point. It's the performance car bargain of the century.

    • @antiapatic
      @antiapatic Před rokem

      you know why? because CZcams is full of narcissistic idiots that flexes their ego by owning a a Porsche(usually GT3 or Turbo) because those wannabe "purists" do not settle for less. So Porsche is doing what any other company there would do: overcharging :) There are channels that literally review just Porsche cars: "with my Porsche for a coffee" , "with my Porsche for for a trio with my girlfriend"..

  • @craigdurie958
    @craigdurie958 Před rokem +20

    The gold standard in reviews. Thank you for your professionalism and excellent reviews.

  • @security_threat
    @security_threat Před rokem +11

    Btw, you have an European spec. The standard Carrera in Europe does NOT have a rear camera. Only US cars do (hence why it doesn’t come up).

    • @jojosaves
      @jojosaves Před 7 měsíci +1

      Not offering a surround camera system on a $150K car is criminal. I could understand a camera delete option for free for the track enthusiasts.

    • @security_threat
      @security_threat Před 7 měsíci

      @@jojosaves sorround camera is not standard but it’s is offered? Maybe $1k?! Not sure.

  • @evankatz2893
    @evankatz2893 Před rokem +3

    As a viewer since Day 1 Mr Bey always putting out a superior video& production, That color is totally awesome!

  • @TheKingOfInappropriateComments

    It's got the solid-sounding thunk ✅ Horn sounds really good. ✅ Add to cart 💸 🛒

  • @1aspirefit
    @1aspirefit Před rokem +5

    Love the color, reminds me of the Krypton green that GM had for the Camaro.

  • @lloydcollins
    @lloydcollins Před rokem +3

    I say it all the time…love your reviews, Soyfan you are the best in the game! Would like to suggest you ask your camera-dude to stop doing all the quick zoom in/zoom out shots. I feel he is trying to practice his Iron Man or Superman movie camera tricks.

  • @dtna
    @dtna Před rokem +3

    Good review!

  • @TheLadiesman0815
    @TheLadiesman0815 Před rokem +6

    I will own a Porsche one day. Swear I will

  • @edgargonzalez-wx5no
    @edgargonzalez-wx5no Před rokem +5

    Getting my python green T delivered in june...unfortunately the rear wing is unavailable, but still excited 😁

    • @HyeunJun
      @HyeunJun Před rokem +1

      Congrats on your new T! Mine is also Python Green and ETA is early May. I didn’t opt for Aero Kit but Porsche rejected to add Aero Kit who added Aero Kit after 25th of January 2023. I read thread from Rennlist.

  • @Bobby-uf1yu
    @Bobby-uf1yu Před 6 měsíci

    Great quality review, probably the best so far on the T, very complete!

  • @badbeatking80
    @badbeatking80 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Its a 911. Perfect luxurious sports car that can be driven everyday

  • @bradcolby3624
    @bradcolby3624 Před rokem +1

    Good to see Rob back

  • @jeremysantaana859
    @jeremysantaana859 Před rokem +7

    Wow what a beautiful car 😍🔥

  • @robertrubin6813
    @robertrubin6813 Před rokem

    Good video thanks for posting… I have a Carrera S because I wanted a manual transmission I didn’t know when the Carrera T was coming. Just one point of clarification sport chrono and Porsche torque vectoring are already included in a C2S MT, so I don’t believe it will come to $20,000 additional to spec it similarly.

  • @phatgringo2.0
    @phatgringo2.0 Před rokem +3

    Sofyan calling Rob a fatty, hilarious!

  • @jeffreykilpatrick3592
    @jeffreykilpatrick3592 Před rokem +5

    The base engine actually spins up faster than the S which only has larger fan blades. My new T will cost me $149,700 - with all kinds of great options.

    • @alb3096
      @alb3096 Před 9 měsíci

      Why is the similar engine 3.0 on T or on S reving better on a T?

    • @jeffreykilpatrick3592
      @jeffreykilpatrick3592 Před 9 měsíci

      @@alb3096 again - the S has larger diameter turbo blades essentially than the T engine- this does produce around 50 more hp- but the larger blades don’t seem to provide the same immediate burst of speed like the smaller diameter blades on the T.

  • @richgonzalez873
    @richgonzalez873 Před rokem

    Can’t wait for mine to arrive , being told April / may . My freeze date is on the 28th of feb and immmmm excited LOL

  • @oliverlondon5246
    @oliverlondon5246 Před rokem +2

    We need more cars like this! ❤

  • @CompletelyObsorbed
    @CompletelyObsorbed Před rokem

    I noticed the rear turn signal indicator lamp is now amber. Is that new for 2023, or something that is only for model T?

  • @DarkClosetOfTheMind
    @DarkClosetOfTheMind Před rokem

    Is there launch control with the manual? or did you manually do it?

  • @amoilevin
    @amoilevin Před rokem +6

    If you don't need the backseats and want a purist experience it makes much more sense to get the Boxster GTS 4. You will get a fully loaded for less with the amazing NA 4L.

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 Před rokem

      The Boxster is just not as good-looking, though. Like not even close.

    • @ayushmalpeddi2793
      @ayushmalpeddi2793 Před rokem

      @@thomasferrarojr.9772 disagree I think it’s better looking. Aside from the GT3, all the other versions have a gaping front grille and a plastic filled rear diffuser. Looks cheap as f**k. Easily reminds me of some significantly cheaper econoboxes

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 Před rokem +1

      @@ayushmalpeddi2793 OK. 👍🏼

  • @saq4851
    @saq4851 Před rokem +3

    Sofyan… your closing in on a million ! Love your reviews brother … one of the best in the business

  • @hardykornfeld1733
    @hardykornfeld1733 Před rokem +4

    The T makes sense for a 911 daily driver, but I spec’d a Cayman GTS 4.0 for $20K less and that’s what I’d get if I drank the Kool Aid and bought a Porsche.

    • @Jay-xr3sb
      @Jay-xr3sb Před rokem

      What are have you got instead?

    • @glucia2223
      @glucia2223 Před rokem

      10000%. What is the point of the 911T when you can get the 718 GTS for far cheaper, with a mid-engine. Yea. The 718 has a pretty spartan inrerior, but it will drive better and is faster. Correct in that 0-60 in 4.5 is all you really need. But the power boost from the 718 from a cheaper standpoint is nice.

  • @eyesurgeon69
    @eyesurgeon69 Před rokem +4

    Most of the weight difference is the manual trans vs a PDK. The other weight savings is minimal.

    • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
      @user-jf8gd3lv7q Před rokem +1

      With a 911 Carrera T avoiding 18 way electric seats and taking the "basic seats" is also very usable for getting a sports car as light as possible. Also the optional carbon fibre roof would be very useful to avoid mass at the highest point of the vehicle, for even bringing down the center of gravity.

  • @billyhughes9776
    @billyhughes9776 Před rokem +5

    Yes, I have had my eye on a 911, and unfortunately it will remain that way. If I had the means this would be about the perfect spec.

  • @sarge27271
    @sarge27271 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Porsche, all about "Smiles per Mile"............Cheers

  • @philipjohnson8946
    @philipjohnson8946 Před rokem

    This or the targa is my dream car. Good review as always

  • @joe718gt4
    @joe718gt4 Před rokem +2

    The bucket seats are unfortunately not offered on the configurator at this time

  • @reyjustimbaste1058
    @reyjustimbaste1058 Před 7 měsíci

    Love it. Simple sports cars with manual transmission are the best

  • @soymilk_
    @soymilk_ Před rokem +3

    Next review I think you should start about 100 feet away from the car, take your small slow steps towards it, and finally reach the car by the end of the review. 😉

  • @a.c.e.7568
    @a.c.e.7568 Před 6 měsíci

    1:43 you are picking a color "for the attention" the car gets. But I am on a back road enjoying mine with nobody around to see it, not cruising back and forth on a boulevard in town for the "hey, look at me" scenario.

  • @golfbuddy1969
    @golfbuddy1969 Před rokem +2

    That color! I love the 911!
    But the green stitching and belts available inside is not Python green, but Viper green which is more green/yellow tint, and does not match the Viper green exterior.
    Sorry, stitching is lizard green.

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 Před rokem +1

      It's Lizard Green stitching and belts

    • @golfbuddy1969
      @golfbuddy1969 Před rokem

      @@joe718gt4 sorry yes that’s correct - thanks. But still doesn’t match the Viper Green exterior. It’s more more yellow or neon than the exterior.

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 Před rokem

      @golfbuddy1969 yeah you'd have to go CXX if they allow it. I thought of going Python on Lizard, but now I want Rubystar Neo with yellow belts and Rubystar Neo trim. Actually saves a couple of thousand too

  • @stealthhtm23
    @stealthhtm23 Před rokem +2

    please review the 718 Cayman T now!! I’m looking to order one

    • @fadablayne
      @fadablayne Před rokem

      Only Gts and Gt4 are being allocated at the moment. 718 production is almost over

    • @stealthhtm23
      @stealthhtm23 Před rokem

      @@fadablayne source?!

  • @Slim1986
    @Slim1986 Před rokem +4

    Porsche can't do no wrong 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @a.c.e.7568
    @a.c.e.7568 Před 6 měsíci

    If all Carreras were priced the same, I wonder which model "new" first time owners would take? That would be interesting.

  • @runninwildwithmilwaukeebuck

    Porsche is watching this video and feels disrespected that there is a guy with a TypeR jacket in the passenger seat of their car 🤣😂

  • @tonymcflattie2450
    @tonymcflattie2450 Před rokem

    Let’s go southwest crew!

  • @Shiba_Inu_Des
    @Shiba_Inu_Des Před rokem

    Distinctively Porsche! One German car I’d love to own.

  • @Phil-fw2ib
    @Phil-fw2ib Před rokem

    Sweet!!!!

  • @markallen2984
    @markallen2984 Před 9 měsíci

    If Porsche made a manual available in the base Carrera, there would be no need for this variant. Realistically, a 100lb weight savings and a noisier cabin does not morph a GT car into a sports car.

  • @billyrock8305
    @billyrock8305 Před rokem +1

    Topgun. #1. 😎🇩🇪

  • @beri232
    @beri232 Před rokem +1

    Love Porsche but out of my budget and practicality range.

  • @brianheffernan8982
    @brianheffernan8982 Před rokem +3

    Great video, Sofyan. The manual transmission is the only way to go in a Porsche.

  • @aznsumthing
    @aznsumthing Před rokem +1

    This is peak combustion engine car before whole industry move to electric.

  • @gunsmokezz
    @gunsmokezz Před rokem +3

    Car costs 160k here easy after taxes. Goes 4.3 at best seems slow for what your getting now. Needs to be in the 3’s for that kind of money

  • @joejones6890
    @joejones6890 Před 11 měsíci

    It's like a Mustang with better handling and quality but three times the cost. I'll take the Mustang sport package for every day driving unless I'm going on the track or windy roads all the time.

    • @sjp3003
      @sjp3003 Před 8 měsíci

      Both are great cars...I sold a 997 X51 911S a few years ago to get a Shelby GT350, and recently sold a GT500 Shelby that will be replaced by a GT Touring. Handling, MT and interior finish on the P Cars are better. The 5.2V8 sounds better than the flat 6 and has way more oomph.

  • @SuperMookybear
    @SuperMookybear Před rokem

    Out of interest, was it necessary to change into 3rd when doing the 0-60 time?

  • @fzr1000981
    @fzr1000981 Před rokem +3

    If they could get the price down to 75k (what it's actually worth without Porche's crazy profit margins) they would sell alot more of them

  • @jeffreykilpatrick3592

    The accents are titanium color not agate. The fixed wing is called an “aero kit” in flat black or gloss black. Also I have been driving a 2021 Targa4 for over a year and without the front end lift. And I have never scrapped my front end in over 17,000 miles. Why? Because I drive in and out of driveways at an angle and also the same with speed bumps. The sound of the engine improves over the first 6,000 plus miles. More crackles and pops on downshifts.
    Definitely the best car in the lineup. By the way the hp is 389 not 380.

  • @joshharrison1160
    @joshharrison1160 Před rokem +3

    my infiniti q50 red sport was 0-60 in 4.5.

  • @richardnavratil9661
    @richardnavratil9661 Před rokem +1

    Watching this I just went on their site to configure one for fun (as I can't afford it for real). Around $115k to start, and you can easily get $20k worth of options on a car that should have them standard for 6-digit price tag.
    I understand this is for a different target demographic, but come on...

    • @user-jf8gd3lv7q
      @user-jf8gd3lv7q Před rokem +1

      What do you expect...? A Porsche 911 sports car for Kia money?
      What's the problem with so many Americans?
      Porsche is producing the best sports cars out there, and of course these cars don't come cheap, period!
      This is just a fact. Always complaining about these things is so fucking annoying.
      Do you want the "right for getting a brandnew Porsche 911 for only 60.000 Dollars"?
      For example, a shitty built and unreliable Aston Martin Vantage would cost you more than double or threetimes the price of a Porsche 911 model, which of course is way better built and of course faster than an Aston Martin.
      Why are so many Americans complaining about Porsche 911 prices, but not about stupidly high Aston Martin prices??? I don't get it.
      A Porsche 911 is worth every penny of its prize, dude!
      Greetings from Stuttgart, Germany

    • @richardnavratil9661
      @richardnavratil9661 Před rokem +2

      @@user-jf8gd3lv7q Get off your soapbox there Mr. Stuttgart. You're clearly not subjective about this topic at all.
      Furthermore, I'm not an American, but thanks a lot for making the assumption. :)
      Nobody said they should cost $60k. Nor do I expect every feature. But the issue is they START at $115k for a sub-400hp flat 6. Sorry if I expect a few features from this?
      I'm not saying they're comparable or that they're the same thing in terms of prowess, quality, reputation, appearance, etc. And I'm also not a BMW fan boy by any means. But you can get an M4 comp for $80k, loaded for $90-95k with extra 100hp and same amount of cylinders. And for Porsche to ask for extra payment for better headlights after a $115k starting price tag is still ridiculous.
      That's what I don't get.
      Lastly - why bring up Aston Martin? Nobody was talking about that and yea, if Aston had same pricing I'd be complaining just the same. Once you crest a 6-digit price tag, nickeling and diming for features is just sad.

  • @Dave--FkTheDeepstate
    @Dave--FkTheDeepstate Před rokem +1

    Beautiful, love the green, but... $128K 😲

  • @robertlevasseur6843
    @robertlevasseur6843 Před 8 měsíci

    There seems to be nothing basic about the 4-way seats. They look spectacular.

    • @sjp3003
      @sjp3003 Před 8 měsíci +1

      They're great...I only miss having a memory button

  • @nvanpraag
    @nvanpraag Před 10 měsíci

    FYI: 18-way seats add 35 pounds, so if low weight is the goal... pass.

  • @AndersChanTidemann
    @AndersChanTidemann Před 8 měsíci

    Why do you insist on butchering the clutch in the car to “verify” the 0-60 claims when it appears you barely know how to operate a manual box?

  • @darkmatter6714
    @darkmatter6714 Před rokem

    You should have done a 0-60 run without Rob and all the gear

  • @AutomotiveAnatomy
    @AutomotiveAnatomy Před rokem

    Great review like always and PORSCHE is the way!

  • @cb9137
    @cb9137 Před rokem +1

    Porsche looks good any color 😍

  • @nvanpraag
    @nvanpraag Před 10 měsíci +1

    Also, "T" is a designation for the homogenized race version for "Touring Car" racing, not in reference to street touring (i.e. plush driving) you mention. The first T was created to qualify for racing and therefore had lighter weight and smaller displacement.

  • @SSS-mp8th
    @SSS-mp8th Před rokem +2

    Beautiful color and the current 911 is a nice design but wow those prices. I'll stick with a liter bike and out run them for less than 1/5th the cost.

  • @nicholassmith7048
    @nicholassmith7048 Před rokem +1

    3:54 did Porsche finally come to their senses and put proper amber rear indicator lights on their Noth American 911s or is this a European-spec car?

  • @user-pn3ix7ws1v
    @user-pn3ix7ws1v Před rokem +2

  • @JennyJenny-ml2gj
    @JennyJenny-ml2gj Před rokem +1

    Please tell your camera guy to stop zoom in and out so much. It's very distracting and unprofessional. Thank you.

  • @heithwatkins
    @heithwatkins Před rokem +3

    Wow. If only I had the money 🤑🤑🤑

  • @johnbehneman1546
    @johnbehneman1546 Před rokem

    THANK YOU SO MUCH. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%. I LOVE EVERYTHING!!! GREAT VIDEO AND EDUCATION. THANKS FOR SHARING.

  • @Cutlerylover4life1
    @Cutlerylover4life1 Před rokem +1

    At a starting price of $115k it should have a better 0-60 time, or more standard options. A sports car over 100k definitely needs to be in the 3s

    • @jakelangston3756
      @jakelangston3756 Před rokem

      This is a manual. The PDK version is hitting 60 in 3.6 seconds.

  • @unclebob4964
    @unclebob4964 Před rokem

    Taking delivery of my Agate Grey C2 next week.
    I had a 3 year wait for this base ( 385 hp ) car…..which gave me plenty of…..to much….time to option it.
    While I would lose the door decal…..and that Green…..really ?
    Not sure I see a “need” for a T model.
    Except for the transmission, you can easily option the C2 and I really think end up with a bit more comfortable car.
    Not trying to be a wise guy……just not sure I like ….or see a need…for the T.

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 Před rokem +3

    $120,000 actually a pretty good deal he says! Lol

    • @TheHoosiers2008
      @TheHoosiers2008 Před rokem

      Why “lol”?

    • @joe718gt4
      @joe718gt4 Před rokem +2

      @@TheHoosiers2008 he goes on many Porsche videos to say the same thing over and over again. It's probably his third account at this point

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 Před rokem +1

      He always compare Porsche to other super cars, obviously, it’s cheaper than other super cars.

    • @andresmattos7541
      @andresmattos7541 Před rokem

      @@blackwhirlwind1245 A 911t IS NOT A SUPER CAR a GT3RDs or a 911 Turbo maybe.

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 Před rokem

      @@andresmattos7541 well, it’s still expensive for just a sports car.

  • @andrewkolb1560
    @andrewkolb1560 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Will this model hold its value or appreciate over time? I'm thinking of buying one. What's everyone think?

  • @MrDaveaccord
    @MrDaveaccord Před rokem

    There is no substitute.

  • @Dkny1985
    @Dkny1985 Před rokem

    Sofyan, why don't you review Bugatti? It's time to do that

  • @drnoizewater
    @drnoizewater Před rokem +1

    I would gladly pay $3200 for them to not offer this color.

  • @miguelvega7769
    @miguelvega7769 Před rokem +2

    Imagine getting a car you can’t even work on yourself 😂😂😂

  • @paulbugoni2846
    @paulbugoni2846 Před rokem +2

    Damn Almost as fast as a Model 3..🤣😜…seriously a nice car if overpriced.

    • @alexl.102
      @alexl.102 Před rokem

      @Paul Bugoni damn almost as fast as my civic..🤣😜...seriously a nice car if overpriced

  • @RealDataPointGuy
    @RealDataPointGuy Před rokem

    The 911 is the poor man's 928. Just calling balls and strikes.

  • @patricksoon85
    @patricksoon85 Před rokem

    I'd rather go for an LC 500. Acceleration is about the same and way better interior for almost 30k less. Yeah, I get that it's not manual and doesn't have the cachet of "Porsche", but I also didn't expect the 911 Carrera T to be that slow 0-60 for the price.

    • @chrisdennis1348
      @chrisdennis1348 Před 9 měsíci

      You cannot characterize the LC 500 as a sports car.

  • @Jgjginkg244
    @Jgjginkg244 Před rokem

    4 dot headlights are the worst. The most hideous.

  • @jeffreykilpatrick3592

    If you scrapped the front end you don’t know how to drive.

  • @Victor-it6bv
    @Victor-it6bv Před rokem +1

    Nissan Z is quicker rhan than this on straights

  • @slopedawg1
    @slopedawg1 Před rokem

    is this car really 100k+? and only 4.3 seconds? get yourself an audi s5 , only .4 seconds slower and a fraction of the price, literally just paying for some extra suspension and the porsche tag

    • @blackwhirlwind1245
      @blackwhirlwind1245 Před rokem

      Every Porsche is expensive, you buy it for the badge.

    • @haydenspoppa785
      @haydenspoppa785 Před rokem +1

      You’ve completely missed the point of what the T is in the 911 lineup. This is a driver focused sports car that actually corners without exhibiting the Audisteer/Understeering mess that is an Audi when pushed to its limits. For morons who care only about 0-60 times, they can go buy a Tesla (that, like the Audi, also handles like 💩 ). Personally, couldn’t care less about 0-60 times but since it’s the top priority for you, did you not hear him say that 4.3 was the estimate for the manual and 3.8 was the estimate for PDK?

  • @andresmattos7541
    @andresmattos7541 Před rokem +2

    Perfectly overpriced

    • @Tjz30
      @Tjz30 Před rokem +3

      Bro if ur broke just say it

    • @andresmattos7541
      @andresmattos7541 Před rokem

      @@Tjz30 Bro you know my bank account?

  • @benchmark76
    @benchmark76 Před rokem

    Worst driver ever. Give it some revs when trying 0-60 instead of almost killing it and come on, there is seven gears, this is 5 more than you used…

    • @GarthGoldberg
      @GarthGoldberg Před rokem

      Anything more than third will get you busted if you're pushing it.

  • @user-sn1lu5yi6r
    @user-sn1lu5yi6r Před 8 dny

    If there is one presenter that shouldn't be operating a manual transmission .....It's this guy. He needs an automatic.

  • @francisgomes9976
    @francisgomes9976 Před rokem +2

    $128k for base 911, you get 4.5 0-60. M4 all day and save $45k you could buy another toy car like mx-5 or daily driver CUV if you need cargo room

    • @fadablayne
      @fadablayne Před rokem +1

      Yea, but what if you already owned the m3/m4 and want to try something different? You're also more likely to get a "better" model the next time around. There's levels to this car ish, like it or not unfortunately.

    • @francisgomes9976
      @francisgomes9976 Před rokem +1

      @@fadablayne yes base 911 is not $135k special. With $130k-$140k in used car sports market you could find super low milage mint condition McLaren 570s, R8, Acura NSX, BENZ AMG GTR, McLaren 12c, 991 Turbo there are others im forgetting.
      Maybe if base 911 with all the options was around $100k then it was justifiable.. then again it's people with money who doesn't want flashy sports car buy these.