Porsche 992 Carrera review. Is the base 911 Carrera a better buy than the Carrera S?
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- The new 992 version of the 911 is the most technologically advanced yet but is the regular 385bhp Porsche Carrera actually a better buy than the 450bhp Carrera S? You save £11,500 by going for the regular 911 Carrera over the Carrera S and in this video, I look into which version is the best one to buy.
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At last someone does a review on a base 911 Carrera and it's Harry. Couldn't be any better.
+1. .. Harry's perspectives are food for thought. .. The man knows these machines! .. Thank you, Harry.
I also reviewed it myself, but I still don’t have Harry’s charm on camera 😅
@@DriftingSquirrel i watched yours btw..good job man!
@@ahmedshinko5142 thank you mate!!
@@michaelschneider- he's not a paid reviewer like the others
I just love the look of meatier tires at smaller rims
Me too
Small wheels matter!
Times Up for twenties!
Agreed. Always preferred the more basic looking 911's - I really like the '80's impact bumper model with narrow body and no rear wing.
To me 17” are perfect for most cars. I hate 20”-22” because with most low profile tires you get no suspension action from the tire.
I have debated this with myself (and others) for years now. I genuinely believe that the best looking Carrera is the simplest base model. No wings, slots, scoops, splitters, nothing.........just let the design speak for itself. Having said that, I think the best looking Carrera of recent years is the 911R from a few years ago - but that was the simplest of 911 design shapes too.
Three sentences, three uses of "I." Ugh.
Made yourself look a right bellend there John good one
@@johnsmith1474 two sentences, made the mistake too.
@@johnsmith1474 Why did you feel a need to be so pedantic ?
True..The scoops, vents, splitters etc just look daft. I don't think Porsche have made a truly beautiful car since the 993...maybe the 997 4S. This thing to me is another pig of a thing, I cannot stand that rear light.
“Not a long video” *checks video length: 17mins* sigh of relief
I did the exact same thing! 😂
James Harding
Me too 😂
me
Harry is the only person I see that can drive around in Porsches and Lamborghinis and not sound superior. Hard to carry that off and remain so popular. Its what's called class I think.
Facts
He is a nice classy man
Dearest Harry and family, Thank you so very much for all the time you’ve spent this year (When you have other things to worry about) sending your fabulous videos 😊🙏😊🙏Merry Christmas 🎄
@Tim Edwards. .. Ditto that. .. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
Always a pleasure to see a new upload from Harry.
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Really appreciate how you start the videos off with a decibel meter test. Often overlooked because these are "sports cars". After driving 5 hours yesterday in our 2006 Boxster S my ears are still ringing this morning. Feels like I flew in a plane for 18 hours....
absolutely agree!
Looks lovely in white too, Not many cars carry white well but this is one.
I agree. White is normally a colour I only associate with vans, not nice cars.
That's facts
When Harry first mentioned "he's back in the 80s" after setting off, my first thought was he was referring to the decade.
It took me three views and your comment to get it.
I thought he had suddenly found himself going rather quickly
No one reviews base cars and I am glad you do! Keep up the vids Harry 👍
The base 911 isn't so "base" Lol
I love the 5pm Sunday slot for a new HG video. Developing the same feeling of anticipation I used to have for 8pm top gear. Please keep up the good work and all the best for 2021.
Thanks, I used to aim for a 5:30pm launch but seeing how dark it is at this time of year, I moved it back slightly to 5pm. Maybe I'll have to review timings again when we hit summertime and the clocks go back an hour!
Bravo for not ignoring the base model and a great, open, honest review as always. Keep the videos coming 👍
Just what I needed for a Sunday evening - another one of Harry's videos. Great content as always. Thank you so much.
Fawning comments aren't necessary. Press the like button if you like someone's content.
@@mortyme4593 was no way intended to be a fawning comment, but wanted to let Harry know that I really appreciate the time and trouble he goes to to provide the content that he does. Compared to the majority of car reviewers on you tube his delivery of his reviews is very calm and logical which makes them very enjoyable to watch.
@@mortyme4593 Derogatory comments are unpleasant, and your opinion is overbearing.
@@DABroke My mistake.
@@unclewilbur8976 Toughen up.
A recent convert, fantastic depth of knowledge and real world driving. Thank you Harry
People can’t afford the car: I want manual
People who buy the car: PDK please
@@dr.lyleevans6915 I believe anyone using their bank account as an argument for authority should shut the f ck up. Especially when that bank account is filled with drug money.
Manual = I am a bore.....
@@jochem1986 its legal out there pal ..
Only 3 pedal 911s for me. No interest in PDK whatsoever.
@@dr.lyleevans6915 I grossed almost 4 figures
Merry Christmas Harry and to all the Metcalfe family because we know he has you helping out with the camera work and everything else from time to time... thank you so much for keeping us all entertained around the world, the highlights for me personally in the MCOTY 2020 was the Espada, what a beautiful story and your personal knowledge combined with the Legend of Ian is outstanding on Lamborghini. The most authentic channel on You Tube... period.
"I hope you've enjoyed this video" Harry, I always enjoy your videos. Thank you so much :)
Thank you for all of the great videos throughout the year. I think you've kept some of us sane with your amazing content. Best wishes of the season to you and yours, see you next year.
Great vid. My wife had a 991.2 base manual and it was all the car you needed in the UK real world. Just a shame no manual option on the base 992
Fabulous it's all I'd ever need! Thanks Harry & Merry Christmas
Harry you are really an excellent, very good car reviewer, you explain things so well and the things that matter. Very much appreciated thank you. 👍
I had to relive the launch control moment a few times! Fantastic review as honest as it can be 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great review! The points you brought up about not being able to get a manual in the base car and the road noise are what made me decide to put a deposit on a Cayman GTS 4.0 instead.
Greetings from the USA Harry. Enjoyed your video and wanted to say that I went through a similar deliberation process before ordering my 2017 Carrera. Having driven both the base and S model, I ultimately decided to go with the base model, and spend the extra money on options like a full red and black leather interior, which goes well with the white car. Not being a track guy I felt that the base had adequate power for my needs.
Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and an end to this bloody virus.
The “virus” was bullshit.
I’m sure you all know that now… You were lied to.
How’s that feel?
Great video thanks for posting. A while back I test drove a 997 turbo and loved it. It had the wider tires but didn't notice excessive loud tire roar/road noise. Since I liked the wide body but not the price I went with the 997 4s. Great car and really enjoyed it except for one thing: it was very loud in the cabin :) The tire roar was the problem with apparently less sound deadening inside (vs the turbo model).Years later I am now thinking about getting a 997 (my favorite series 911) in the turbo spec...
How refreshing is it to listen to Harry and his calming voice over the youtube car bloggers (you know who I'm talking about) screaming about their new car, their new wrap, exhausts etc etc.
Thanks Harry for your videos on this and the Farm channel. Happy Christmas to you all.
Harry, Porsche has an option for 911, it's called Lightweight and Noise Insulated Glass.
I suspect they introduced this option for a reason. I would get it in a base 911.
Nice review as always.
Does anyone have feedback about this option? My understanding is it may not change all that much.
Amazing video. I am getting much more into the "base" spec models than these silly specials and nonsense price options. Great Video Harry. As always 😍
Harry’s videos are the highlight on my Sunday!
Hi Harry. Thank you for all your videos this year. I really enjoyed them. Happy Christmas and best wishes for 2021. I'm looking forward to more videos.
Always appreciated the base Carrera, glad to see it getting an airing.
I really appreciate the down to earth and practical nature of Harry's reviews. As a long time 911 owner and daily driver with ear problems, the noise level would really give me pause on this model. On a GT3, I could understand those levels, but for an ordinary 911 the usability should be higher.
Love to see a 911T review, both 991 and 992. Great review as always
Five you tube notifications...always watch Harry's last because it's like a good red, it should be savoured. Thanks Harry.
The 911 really has evolved beautifully, a stunning beauty.
I love the idea of a base model sports car! Getting back to basics.
Harry is the classiest car guy out there! Just love his reviews.
Merry Christmas to you and yours. Thank you for your output this year. Hoping for better things next year.
Rather hard sell for this when a Cayman GTS 4.0 is a bit less and way more special overall.
Easier sell to your wife with the back seats though.
I have not tried a GTS 4.0 or a 992 but I always have preferred driving a 911 over a boxster purely due to the drivetrain layout. In my opinion the rear engined 911 experience is just more fun and engaging than mid engined cars.
911 cabin space it way more practical day in day out.
Also this applies only taller people but if you plan to go on track make sure you can fit inside a Cayman with a helmet on. A helmet adds many inches to your torso height. If you can't fit in a Cayman you might need to get a 911. I can easlly roadtrip in my friends C6 corvette. But doing 3 laps on track with my head tilted at an angle against the roof felt down right claustrophobic.
@@memememine1 Watched Jay Emm On Cars this morning, he reviewed a GT3 RS. He mentioned the car feeling more mid engine versus the traditional feel of the motor way out back. Maybe not as large of a distinction anymore?
Exhaust reminds me of 997 turbo.. I think I prefer these to the sport tips!!
They look way better.
I always look forward, to a new video from Harry's garage.
As always a great review Harry, you are a legend. A very Happy New Year to you and your family.
Love it when you upload a video!!
I always want to know what Harry thinks of a car 🚗. Honest opinions
Happy Christmas Harry! - Thanks for all your videos, and looking forward to watching you in 2021.
Harry, nice to see a base model car being tested, rather than the range topping , keep the videos coming as there’s nobody who does it better Have a safe Christmas , David from Highland Scotland 🏴.
Strange that they don’t offer it with a manual.
i suspect so the tuners can't make cheap 911 R out of it
They must have a few PDKs to shift, manually.
Perhaps they’re saving that combo to differentiate a 911T down the line.
Yet you can get the Carrera S with a manual. Strange move I agree.
@@mateogalguera9089 Yeah, I think so too
The reason there is so much road noise as there is in the 718 also, is because the inner wheel arches are plastic where as those in the Macan etc are felt. This makes a huge difference
10:55 - love the way it takes off into the mist, what a gorgeous car!
Great review harry!
Thanks Harry - great video as always 🇬🇧. Happy Christmas 🎄
I want one. I think there is something very cool about having the base/standard '911' of our times without all the various spec options and machinations that pollute the rest of the range.
I like this guy. He’s like a nice version of my dad.
Tell us about your dad.
@@blondiebxl He's old, bald and has a beard. Knows a lot about cars (was a mechanic before becoming an engineer) but we don't really get along. wbu?
Harry, you are so enthusiastic. "A kid in a candy shop". Merry Christmas and a safe New Year. Please keep the content coming for 2021!
Paul
That's a beautiful car ! But bit expensive maybe although perfectly balanced . Astonishing the evolution of the 911 series throughout the years . Keep doing videos Harry! Thanks
Thanks for the review Harry. I’m pretty certain though that you don’t get Launch Control without Sports Chrono Pack. Because Sports Chrono gives you ‘Sport Plus’ mode where you can engage Launch Control. In this Carrera you were testing you only have Wet, Normal and Sport Mode. When you tried it that just seemed like a foot on the brake with acceleration when lifting off. Not quite Launch Control where it holds the revs until you disengage the brake pedal. 👍🏼
Could it be reduced sound deadening at the rear? Unlocks some engine noise at cost of cabin refinement. I vaguely recall a story many years ago of engineers desperately chasing noise out of a car, then realised that carpeting the boot made a huge difference. Anyway, great point about the mounts/bushes too, that'll also do it. Interesting video content as usual, cheers.
Love that you bring up sound deadening at the rear. Very likely culprit. I’d also be curious to see, like Harry mentioned, different tires on the car. I’m assuming that Porsche offers these test cars with winter tires at this time of year. That could be part of the issue as well.
Excellent video. No hyperbole, just cuts to the important information. Quality.
Thanks, Harry. Nice to see a review of the base Carrera. I have the twin of this car in a 991. Agree about the quality and will never need the power of the higher variants. One thing is a must is the sports exhaust. I swapped mine for a Fabspeed which is off the charts.
"There's normally a cup holder here, I've thrown it in the back somewhere" LOL classic Harry! :)
We need more project 7 content !!!
I agree! We had big plans in 2020 but CV restrictions meant it couldn't happen, here's hoping 2021 might be kinder to the idea of EU travel but hard to plan anything right now..
Watch this for the cahs but also love to hear Harry talk about them. Love the the words to describe bad ass. Such as “It’s propah noisy”. and “ it has a howl”. Love it! Thanks Harry for post. Cheers from the other side of the pond.
Great video once again Harry. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Curious to see what your thoughts are on the base 718 Cayman, love reviews on the more basic cars like this
It’s one of those rare occasions when the base model looks amazing!😍
Great review and luv the way he handles motors
I love these base model videos, thanks Harry
Good on you Harry for highlighting the road noise, I find it very tiring on long journeys and its detrimental to your hearing too. My Dad used to work at MIRA many moons ago and it was one of his bugbears. He said that its all to do with weight saving and fuel economy, thus not sufficiently insulting the car. You could always Dynamat it yourself!
Thank you, Harry! Was always wondering about the base. You hit it on the head. It's a very capable *GT*, these days, but the interior noise problem plus the mandatory autobox makes it an unresolved product. And, happy new year!
Really enjoy your reviews Harry
Well done and most detailed look on base 911 which I‘ ve found in contrary to an „inflation“ off Carrera S tests.
Hi Harry, about the cabin noise in both of the 992's you tried, I noticed that they have an option on their configurator called "Lightweight Noise Insulated Glass". You should see if Porsche can give you a car with this option installed, to see if it makes a difference.
Looks like they’re reserving the manual in the base model for the future Carrera T. If you’re tracking it then you’re better off with the Carrera S, which has the larger brakes and Porsche Torque Vectoring (not available on the Carrera) which makes a difference.
Lovely car great video Merry Christmas Harry and thank you for the great videos!
Sunday evening and another great video cheers Harry.
Happy Christmas to all you and all your family 👍🚗🌲
Good video thanks Harry. I presume the ride is still firm? I recently changed from an F Type S to a new 992 Carrera S having driven a C2S at Porsche Silverstone track then test drove one on the road but in the rain. Having owned it for a couple of months, two things that stand out (as you mentioned) are the poor ride over even slightly bad surfaces and loud road noise - more than my F Type which I didn't expect. The soundtrack is pretty dull too and not particularly nice when revved hard - again I'm comparing this to an F Type which wasn't loud unless you gunned it. I guess it's the 'Porsche' sound which I wasn't used to and, surprisingly, as you point out the car doesn't feel every day usable. Other than that it's good car and seriously quick, somewhat better built than the F Type which turned out to be one of the worst cars I've ever owned from a build quality and reliability point of view (without exaggeration it had more than 15 different problems in the 4 years I owned it).
Great video Harry. I like your thinking with the base 911, seems more pure. PS I have the registration 911 YUM..
PS who cares?
I think you might ?
Great vid, as ever.
The size of GT with the cabin noise of a trackday-focused sports car - does not compute.
Very well reviewed Harry. Glad the engine howl is still there. Thank you. 👍
Great video, Mate! I have to agree, the road noise in most newer 911s is just too much. I own a 991.2 GTS, 7 speed manual. The car is amazing however, my only complaint is tire noise. I replaced the original spec Pirellis with Michelin PS4s shortly after taking delivery, hoping to reduce tire noise but the improvement was barely noticeable. In their long list of options, Porsche should offer the choice to add additional sound insulation to reduce the annoying tire noise. I would have ticked that box for sure!
Regarding the 911’s performance focused engine mounts and suspension joints; I don't believe they contribute to road noise, or if they do, it’s insignificant. Those components would lead to firmer road manners and/or ride quality though Porsche now offers dynamic engine mounts to partially address that. I’m pretty sure most of the noise comes from a combination of wide tires and lack of sound deadening. Cheers from Oregon, USA!
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The conclusion, everywhere, is that the atmospheric engines, even when less powerful, give more driving joy. Even with a gas particulates filter
and THIS, is one of the many reasons we love you Harry!
Great review Harry. Would be great to see you test a 991.2 GT3 or the Macan Turbo
I always make a brew before watching a Harry's Garage video, very therapeutic
Imagine a ClubSport version of this, with a manual gearbox and 100kg less weight!!
hope will be the 992 carrera T. Would like to know how they'll manage the Radio Delete option!
Sadly they won't make that mistake again :(
Wow that car looks so beautiful in that basic spec. Much more appealing to me than the red S variant you previously recorded.
Lovely video again.
And yes, the Cayman 718 gts 4.0 manual any day of the week and twice on sunday’s for me.
I’m 61 now and having owned a string of 911s , the last one being a 991.1 GTS , I totally agree with you ...the cabin noise is very intrusive and you notice it more as the years mature. I have changed from Porsche now and have bought a Maserati Granturismo 4.7 sport , another of your past cars, and I have to say ...” what a car “ the exhaust note, the presence and then there is the way it looks .....I was always Porsche but I’m now firmly in the Maserati camp....every drive is an occasion.
Brilliant review as always Harry ...cheers.
Harry,
Please review a Lexus LC500. Love to know what you think of the Japanese take on fast GT cars.
Thank you.
My (limited) experience with Japanese sports cars (1991 Supra twin turbo) is that they're simply not up to European standards, particularly in terms of ride and 'feel' on the road. I just felt isolated from the action and despite the ability to travel quickly, was left feeling that it was just a machine to get from A to B rather than an organic experience enabling me to feel at one with machine and road. Clearly built with the American market in mind since manufacturing began.
I’m amazed at that noise level. My Army-surplus HumVee is at 82db inside the cabin at speed! And I thought that was loud!
Thank you Harry, very nice video and review, best regards from BC Canada.....
If you needed some extra power tuning is always a option.... The turbos are probably the same so there is a lot of performance on tap for this car. Great video as always
What a fantastic way to end a brilliant day a glass of wine and Harry‘s garage
Great video as always, Harry!
Been waiting for another porsche vid. Thanks Harry.
I think the fact that the base Carrera isn't available with a manual transmission is down to emission regulations. Car manufactures have to pay more money to the EU if their fleet is above a specific CO2 limit. A manual car is less fuel efficient than a PDK car and thus they would have to pay more money to the EU. A base Carrera would probably be quite popular as a manual and therefore this would significantly impact their fleet CO2 emissions.
That is my guess too. 👍
They just wanna sell the T when it comes out…
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I’d take a base 911 any day..
With all of these cars if just get the base version. It's the best bang for buck.
Not without a manual unfortunately
Id take a carrera s any day
@@xj_220 it's too expensive, you can easily get the same horsepower out of this one if you really wanted to.
@@dragospahontu nah modified fars dont last anything
I had the pleasure of driving a 2020 911 C4S over a weekend a few weeks back. I was hoping it would replace my 2012 911 C2. On the highway my wife and I struggled to have a conversation over the overbearing sound inside the cabin. It got to the point it was giving me a headache. I think I’ll stick to my 8 year old base 911. It’s still a lot of fun to drive and while it doesn’t have some of the modern amenities (like Apple CarPlay) at least I don’t need to wear earplugs. Thanks for another informative video Harry.
Hi Harry, hope you are keeping well. For me the 911 has always been the most beautiful car. And i can't see past the base model every time. In white it's a real work of art. Cabin noise? More sound insulation. As you've tested it here, this is my perfect car. Unfortunately me and my friend Arthritis probably couldn't get in or out of this beauty these days, so thanks for sharing. Stay safe and keep up the good work. 👍🖖😎🦼