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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2024
- What are the top 10 video game consoles of all time? We discuss and debate a compilation list.
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Top 5 consoles all time 1. NES 2. PS2. 3. SNES 4. Nintendo Switch 5. PS4
I would if it wasn’t for paid subscribers only. What the hell.
I would just change the N64 with the Dreamcast.
It is very important cause both Dreamcast and PS2 managed to bring Arcade quality games in our homes since.
@@MikeSimGaming lol, the nes is trash
+Pat the NES Punk
I'd consider it definitive if the *Amico Intellivision* were in the #1 spot. Otherwise, it's a list of paper tigers.
How was the original Gameboy not on the list? It established Nintendo as the dominant player in the handheld video game market, they've never really had competition in the area of dedicated handheld hardware, the Gameboy was where that started and it's also where Pokemon which is the highest grossing video game franchise.
So true, just found a bunch of old Gameboy games cleaning out my garage. Loved my Gameboy color back in the day
IDK if they were considering full handhelds, but yes it deserves a spot. It's the best example of taking the practical, cheapo budget console route and doing it right It had tons of good ports and original games, first party or not.
The list was based on home consoles. And Pokemon didn't do anything innovative, there were games like it before. It just came along at the right time for Millennials to get in on it.
@@neoasura the main innovative thing about pokemon was simply the trading and battling pokemon aspect and it being one of the first monster collector/collectathon games. The designer of it specifically made it to encourage kids to get together over it and back then they were all hooking their gameboys at lunch or recess.
Other than that it was just a standard procedure RPG.
I think a big part of what make N64 important enough to make the top 10 is its multiplayer focus, both in its games and having 4 controller ports, which became a standard for all systems after that (other than PS2, haha). The analog joystick was also hugely important, along with rumble (pre-dating the PS1 dual-shock release)
Don't think N64 is in the top ten
I’d say it’s top 10 material, not top 5 because of the multiplayer experience.
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The N64 is weird because it pushed forward a lot of innovations, but it's also arguably the console that did the most damage to Nintendo's brand. I can still see it in the top 10, mostly because of what it contributed that became standard, despite its flaws.
"Best" and "most important" are two different (albeit overlapping) topics.
The Magnavox Odyssey is no one's idea of the best anything, but its introduction literally created the home video game industry.
The Fairchild VES/Channel F was quickly overshadowed by the Atari VCS/2600, but it was the first video game console with a microprocessor and ROM cartridges.
The Game & Watch line and the original Game Boy offered experiences that were crude even by contemporaneous standards, but they popularized the familiar handheld form factor and initiated Nintendo's uninterrupted dominance in the portable segment.
I would enjoy hearing Pat and Ian discuss their own opinions/rankings of the most historically significant video game consoles in a future installment of the podcast.
The Magnavox Odyssey was the best one when it released. ;)
yeah, as far as importance for the gaming industry I would go 1. Magnavox Odyssey 2. NES 3. SNES (pseudo 3D gaming, perfected 2D gaming)4. N64 (invented 3D polygon based gaming as we know it)5. PC Engine (pioneered disc tech, cutscenes) 6. Switch (look at the Nvidia K1, Valve Steam Deck, Evercade, this is being normalized) 7. XBox 360 (online gaming being integral to consoles) 8. Game Boy 9. Wii 10. Xbox One (game pass and upscaled BC, changing console gaming)
Agreed and I was thinking the same, 'best' and 'most important' aren't always the same with these consoles. The PS4 was a fine console that did 'most' things well, and could fit into a 'best console' category for what it does and for what it is. 'Most important'? Not so sure in the annuls of game history it will go down as overly 'important'. It was an iterative upgrade and bridge between the PS3 and the PS5.
@@gp63 PS4 is among my favorites, but I will admit did nothing where it should be in the top 10 for "most important consoles of all time", unless you are a Sony stockholder. It just had a lot of great exclusives and a vast library, as far as changing history of gaming, not so much.
Some damn good gameboy games
Amico is gonna be the best system ever I ordered 50 of them.
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I ordered 51
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Hi Tommy
I understand the ps2 it came with a dvd player so you could watch movies on it (even in your own room) it was also backward compatible with the ps1 which made the library insane compared to xbox, dreamcast and gamecube. the fact that I could go shopping for a dvd movie, a ps2 game and a ps1 at the same time for my ps2 was insane back then (with mommys money back then ofc)
The backwards compatibility was also great because you could use the PS1 controllers for PS2 games (sans the D-pad only ones for some games) and get higher quality component output from it for PS1 games. N64 games are stuck on the original hardware with horrendous No-RGB video output.
The other three Sixth gen controllers or just kind of weird and not as practical IMO. The basic dualshock layout though is still in use to this day.
It was the best DVD player you could buy……
Also the cheapest
@@lordrayden3045 "The best" 😂 I can tell you have never used a PS2 as a DVD player. It often had problems reading DVD movies and the menus were horrible. But for its time it was of course a nice thing to have, but it was never the best.
Ian's comment about Sony PS1 and PS2 being the most dominate ~10 year run we've seen (1995 to 2005) from a company is key to why it's so impressive, but it is also why I think DS and Wii were so impressive (2004 to 2012), Where Nintendo sold 260M+ gaming devices over an 8 year span, and completely dominated pop culture's current gaming trends. Gamers literally had to combined the PS3 and 360 when talking online just to ignore the Wii's success, in most cases people called them PS360 or the HD Twins. We talk about how the PS2 sold 155M+ units, but DS sold 154M+ units. It's very impressive to see that trend from one company and then directly into another, and now we've seen both PS4 and Switch dominate the market together, Switch is passing Wii and PS1 numbers next month and is only slowing down because of the chip shortage, as Nintendo can't keep them in stock.
the wii's library was shit and the only reason switch is doing as well as it is.is due to covid
@@Dan7900xtx Wii had a pretty good library and had really good exclusives at the time. It had its casual shovelware, but the 1st party Nintendo stuff was mostly really good.
Switch sold 21M+ in the FY before the pandemic, that is a million more than PS4 ever sold. Don't make excuses about why Switch is doing well, just makes you look salty
The switch is the first system since the Ps2 that I am interested in. Ps2 will always have a number one spot if you don't count pc's around the 1995-2000 era
The DS I think deserved to sell well because its main gimmick (I even hesitate to call it that) was actually fun, unique and fairly practical, that lots of games could take advantage of or not.
The wii is *among* the worst, and probably the most undeservedly successful console of all time IMO. it put ALL its eggs in one basket of this motion control gimmick which people ate it right up but almost everyone hated it immediately afterwards. And then they got tired of wii sports after a month and never played it again. and then the censor bar fell off the TV. They did basically the same thing with the Wii U only the gimmick was not as immediately flashy and it tanked.
It just embodies all the negatives of Nintendo, shitty horsepower, a weak gimmick, tons of shovelware shit and tie-ins for kids and first party titles just carrying the whole library. Except when they don't. It even had the "annoying add-on/ugpgrade that should have been in it from the start instead of complicating things" with the motion plus and the jacket, it's like irritating Nintendo practices bingo.
I would say the Wii’s legacy is that it ushered in a new generation of causal gamers. It really helped boom video games from being a popular medium to the insanely popular medium that everyone has had some exposure with now.
Phones I would say
@@skimmaster5000 The wii predates modern smartphones, or at least predates when they became massively available. I'm talking like the iphone/android Angry Birds era where phones brought in even more casual gamers. I remember a friend having an iphone in 2009 was a huge luxury and not many people had them. So i agree phones brought in even more gamers, but id say Wii predates that era
It's motion controls were innovative, but the bulk of the library is just shovelware minigames. It's almost like a modern day 2600.
10) GameCube: the reason is because it helped improve solid franchises from previous generations and even some from the GBA as well which was the same generation, but what's especially important is the GameCube controller. It is still used nowadays on the Nintendo switch three generations later and that is mighty impressive.
9) Sega Genesis: the reason is because it was important for there to be legit competition going against nintendo. Nintendo finally had real competition with the Sega Genesis going against them and it finally allowed Sega to have some success as their predecessor the Master system got whooped by the NES, but although the Super Nintendo did beat the Sega Genesis by nearly 12 million units at the end, it still was the closest battle for first place ever. It also brought in some pretty solid new franchises that are still around today obviously most particularly Sonic the hedgehog.
8) Xbox: the reason I put the original Xbox on here is that basically this solidified the three crown competition we have now. Ever since then it's always been Nintendo versus Sony versus Microsoft. Another reason I'd like to point out is as far as I know the original Xbox is the first home console to actually have its own internal hard drive instead of having to deal with memory cards as immediately in the very next generation the Wii and the PS3 and of course the 360 as well all have internal hard drives and that is how it remains since. The original Xbox you can kind of say is the first home console to actually be like having a home computer sort of because of that internal hard drive and how powerful system it was. No mouse and keyboard sure, but nevertheless a big step forward in gaming I think.
7) Atari 2600: well the reason for this is because it made home console video gaming mainstream to begin with. It made popular the use of interchangeable cartridges.
6) PlayStation: this was the first console that Sony ever made and it sold so well and it really pushed us forward by being the first successful cd-based console. There were others before it but they didn't have the games or the financial backing to be successful, but Sony did and for the first time Nintendo actually was not first place in a console war bringing them down to earth and forcing them to have to try harder in later generations. When competition is legit it can lead to better quality products.
5) NES: the NES saved the home console market and I think that's enough to put it on the list honestly. But there's more to it than that. The graphics are obviously primitive by today's standards, but they must have looked really good back then considering that people had Atari before then and the graphics were just total garbage and comparison. On the NES you can actually tell what every object on the screen is because it actually looks like something. Kind of like how Pat said it's like a cartoon.
4) Gameboy: there have been portable consoles tried before this and to be honest the game gear which was its competitor by Sega should have been the better console with the fact that it was in color not to mention the Atari lynx was in color, but Nintendo's game boy was much more affordable and would last longer on its battery life and although in a lot of cases the games were downgrades on there, there were some really solid games that just actually were shockingly really good for being on this primitive handheld. Obviously Pokemon comes to mind, but Link's Awakening was a damn good title and while Super Mario Land one I'd say is not the most well aged game, Super Mario Land 2 actually looks kind of like a portal 8-bit version of Super Mario World which is impressive for 1992 and it's a damn good game and Wario which isn't actually a reason to put this on the list, but nevertheless Wario is worth mentioning because he came into existence on this handheld. Nintendo has dominated the handheld market ever since this console except for the virtual boy of course.
3) SNES: the Super Nintendo allowed Nintendo to in fact beat the Sega Genesis but it was the closest console war for first place ever. There were so many good games that will forever stand the test of time such as Super Mario World Legend of Zelda A Link to the past, super metroid, and a lot of people still think Kirby Superstar is the greatest Kirby game ever made. I think ever since Kirby triple deluxe came out for 3DS that game took over as the best Kirby game, but nevertheless Kirby Superstar was incredible and there are so many other great games on this. Super Metroid is what I think the greatest game on the Super Nintendo and it's one of the greatest games ever made. Obviously Super Mario kart started on Super Nintendo as well and is a massive franchise now. But one very important thing I have to point out is the controller. The SNES controller is perfection and it has stood the test of time. The button layout on the PlayStation controller is identical to the layout on an SNES controller and the later we Classic controller and the Pro controller for the Wii U and Pro controller for the switch are also very much inspired by the original design of this perfect SNES controller. The controller for the SNES is the best type of controller you could ever make because both Microsoft and Sony as well as Nintendo themselves have made controllers that have similar layouts which is maybe some changes here and there like joysticks for example and additional shoulder buttons.
2) Switch: the Nintendo switch has revolutionized gaming and made popular the idea of actually having a console that can both work as a handheld or instead display on the big screen. It is the most powerful handheld console in existence with really good HD graphics on a handheld which has never been seen before except maybe on your smartphone or tablet or something which isn't designed specifically for gaming to begin with, but the fact that you can still dock it and put it up on the big screen and have it in 1080p HD graphics is pretty damn awesome.
1) PlayStation 2: I have to agree on this one. I'd hate to say this but I'm one of those very few people in existence who never owned a PS2 back in the day even though I grew up in the 90s and was a teenager in the early 2000s to becoming an adult in the mid to late 2000s, but yeah my family had a GameCube and later my older brother got an original Xbox. I didn't actually have a PS2 until I bought a PS2 slim on eBay a few years ago. Anyways the PS2 I do agree seems to be the system that has popularized video gaming to the masses and it's not just because of being able to play DVDs which proves that video game consoles can be used for more than just video games as all consoles nowadays have streaming sites on them like how the switch has Hulu and CZcams and the PS4 and Xbox One I'd imagine would have Hulu and CZcams and Netflix and probably even Disney Plus and Amazon prime as well as others meaning that the PS2 in some way started the trend of making a video game console be a multimedia player which I still think is a pretty big deal since a lot of time with current video game consoles you're actually often using them to watch TV on said streaming sites like Hulu and Netflix. But the fact is the PS2 was definitely a system for everyone. There were games that were geared towards kids that while adults can still enjoy and there are games geared towards adults that you can possibly enjoy as a teenager and maybe if you're mature enough you can enjoy as a kid as well. Sure previous generations had games like that even on the N64 for example, but the PS2 really pushed the envelope on that.
If this was made 5 years from now the Amico would be top 5 for sure
64 had more of a party vibe than all the other consoles and I think people have fond memories of playing more with their friends than directly comparing the games themselves. I think that was the genius of the 64, which is why the world gravitated towards online games. People want to play games with other people and the tech really doesn't matter when the fundamentals of a game are on point.
*Dreamcast*
Saturn as well.
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They always crap on the N64, but that's one of my favorite consoles of all time. Not the best, but one of my favorites.
I think the original poll idea was "most important" consoles, N64 should be up there, they seemed to jump between best selling, their favorites, while forgetting how N64 pretty much invented gaming as we know it today.
A little presumptuous releasing this list before the Intellevision Amico comes out.
i doubt it's going to even make it near top 10, no way it's going to be THAT good.
How did they gloss over the N64 importance without mentioning the popularization of analog control, rumble feedback, and memory card/expansion pak🙄
Also laid the blueprint on 3D polygon based gaming. "Camera controls" were not really much of a thing until N64 had the yellow c buttons controlling it in Mario 64. Zelda OOT had Z-targeting which became the norm to this day in 3D action, adventure, open world games in combat. Most of what is made and played today all took inspiration from what the N64 pioneered.
I think the n64 is just a very overlooked console simply because it’s catalog isn’t that good and hasn’t aged well
@@verbage432 catalog isn't that good? As compared to what? Two Zelda games, Mario 64, countless good racing games, only had two good RPG's (Ogre Battle 64 and Paper Mario), some good FPS's. I mean If I made a top 20 of best games of the 90's, probably half would be N64 games.
@Michael Palmer my personal favorite PS1 games were SotN, MGS, FF7, Xenogears, as I am not counting arcade ports that also appeared on Saturn as much that often had terrible load times. Many other notable games like RE, Gran Turismo, Twisted Metal, Tomb Raider, Wipeout. PS1 had a way bigger lineup with more genres well represented. But the best of the best of that console cycle, only SotN would make my top 10, the other 9 games would all be N64 games, feel free to disagree, but the peak of the N64 was way better than PS1. And putting gaming tastes aside bc that is subjective, objectively, N64 revolutionized polygon based gaming to what we see today.
@Michael Palmer PS1 had many great sprite based games including all their arcade fighters Saturn usually got slightly better versions of. SotN was IMO, the best PS1 game and was the best version at the time, it was about as good as the Metroidvania game could get and none have surpassed it since IMO. But it didn't invent that style of game, it simply perfected it. Its a toss up between Super Metroid and SotN as best game ever in that genre. As far as "most important cosnoles" though, PS1 was important more as a sales winner, not on its impact on gaming genres IMO. It had a lot of really good JRPG's, but they were invented a decade earlier, maybe it just brought that genre more to the masses could be its legacy? But as far a genre defining and inventiveness, N64 was way more "important" and influential.
I agree with the list for the most part. I would have changed a few things around. I totally agree with the PS2 being number 1. So many great games and memories! Great video as always gentlemen!!
hey pat, I saw ya yesterday at RWE.. i was the dude who froze up your phone and then talked f13 with ya! we have a good group of friends on switch if you ever want to try some actual matches sometime! Liking the book so far, so far I have both, I will keep an eye out for the N64 one!
10). Atari 2600
9.) Nintendo Switch
8.) Sega Genesis
7.) PlayStation 4
6.) Nintendo 64
5.) Xbox 360
4.) Sony PlayStation
3.) Nintendo Entertainment System
2.) Super Nintendo
1.) PlayStation 2
1. PS2 - Because beyond just gaming it also cemented the DVD format.
2. Atari 2600 - Arcades at home. Neat.
3. NES - For saving the industry in it's darkest hour.
wasn't aware the DVD format was all that relevant today?
@@hepwo91222 Maybe less relevant today, but when the new format of home video was being introduced it got a huge boost from PS2. Historical importance doesn't vanish with modernity.
@@dariusq8894 PS3 while nowhere near as popular or successful as the PS2 had the Blue Ray format. PS1 like many disc based consoles before it played audio CD's. Not sure that is a feature that made those consoles "most important in history", but they were all good multimedia consoles in their day
@@hepwo91222 PS3 is a better media center than PS4. 😆
I love Pat but his knowledge level on consoles outside of the NES is kinda poor.
thumbnail is misleading too, "best" consoles or most impactful or most important are all different topics. As far as best, that is mostly opinion and tastes in gaming, most impactful can be a mix of sales, influence on the industry as a whole, but important may be more like consoles that were trailblazers in tech, ideas, inventiveness, and pioneering ways to play games.
Yes. I enjoy their podcast, it's a must listen every week. Pat and Ian are great. But I have to agree. Pat's knows his NES stuff and early PC stuff. Then it pretty much stops. He really doesn't add much to other consoles.
Yup as a brit we had a mega drive but we mostly played pc games until ps1. The ps2 though was the real deal. Still my favourite console ever
PS2 was the bomb for sure, it cant be topped imo, Switch is really good so that would be my #2, especially when i can take mine into the bathroom while i GO #2. lol
yeah, over here the nes and snes weren't that popular really, the megadrive was more popular for some reason. I remember playing a snes when I was about 10 and thinking "why haven't I seen this before, this is great". The PS1 absolutely exploded over here though, really set things off for gaming in general... we had quite a few N64's as well from what I can remember. I only ever saw a Saturn like once maybe and about 20 ps1's. poor saturn :(
Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time were so influential alone so I get that, adding camera control, analogue stick, rumble etc.
Yeah, N64 would easily be in my top 5 maybe top 3 in "most important consoles of all time", it was the blueprint for most modern games to this day.
@Michael Palmer look back on the PS1 and then look at the N64, who was really more influential on modern gaming? I mean its not even close, its the N64.
It cannot be overstated how important the GTA series was to the success of the PS2. They were exclusive to the PS2 for a few years before being ported to the Xbox.
I think GTA3 had a year of exclusivity, many of the other titles I am not sure they ever made it to the OG Xbox?
Ian makes so many good points in this video. Great observations.
I feel like Dreamcast needed to be on the top 10, Not only for having one of the best "good to bad ratio" libraries, The First console to connect to the internet and support netplay out of the box (it introduced me to the internet), The first console with analogue triggers, The first console with voice recognition and basically perfect arcade ports. It could almost be considered the first hybrid console with it's VMU memory cards. It was Segas (and Arcades) Swan Song, and was Way ahead of it's time. The Dreamcast would easily be in my top 5, if not the top 3.
My top five would be:
Neo Geo, Playstation, Genesis, NES, and Dreamcast.
For me consoles ended after the Dreamcast. I went full PC post Dreamcast (That damn internet).
The N64 could have had RPG's on the system, that wasn't restricted due to the media and they did have a couple like Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, Quest, etc. The NES and SNES had plenty of RPGs too, great ones, with great music that were on cartridge they just weren't gonna get 3D ones with all the voices, sound, video clips etc. I do remember a lot of debate at that time too on CD vs Cart. Cd's were new, verrry slow, less reliable, and while cheaper to make the barrier of entry was higher if you didn't already have the tech. Sony had an "in" because they already were producing in their sound, tech departments etc so it was an easy pivot for them, not so much for Nintendo at the time, that's why they tried to partner with Sony on the Nintendo Playstation. Nintendo was still looking at the Floppy disk tech they had already invested in with the Famicom.
ps1 = my favorite!
My top 10 favorites SNES, Switch, PC Engine/TG-16, N64, Gamecube, Xbox 360, Genesis, NES, Playstation 1, Playstation 4. Top 10 "most important" as in changed something significantly about gaming forever, Odyssey, NES, N64, SNES, PC Engine, Genesis, Game Boy, Xbox 360, Switch, Xbox One
PS3 fat is the greatest video game console of all time.
It plays Ps1, Ps2 and PS3 out the box and had dvd and blue ray
And considering how ps2 emulation is a absolute nightmare til this day, this feature alone still makes it the greatest value you can get for a console without mods
ps2 emu isn't really a nightmare imo, but I understand your pain. its not ideal. having to manually dial in the settings for each fucking game in pcsx2 is an absolute ballache and the accuracy isn't what the original system had, don't let anybody try tell you otherwise. there's graphical effects and filters missing/audio problems in a lot of games. plus it also depends on hardware. why invest in a gaming rig that's optimal when you can just buy a ps2 for way cheaper? hopefully ps2 emulation gets better over time. its servicable at least for now though I think
@Wiegraf same here. I'm just saying that its not as accurate as the original is all. upscaling using the hardware render plugin isn't the same as the software plugin
Nintendo put gaming back on the map for generation's nd Fans that love's playing videogames narrative storyline landscape of that game map size
Based on the criteria of the ranking, the Gameboy should've been in the Top 10. It was the first mainstream portable console and as others have said, it established Nintendo as top dog of the portable market and no one else has been able to take that title from them in the 30 plus years since the Gameboy's launch.
Also, again based on the criteria of the ranking, the PS4 and, as much as I love it, the Switch should not be included as it's too soon to know their true impact on the market. The Wii should be there instead as the motion controls live on today at Nintendo (Switch Joy Cons) and even the competition dabbled in motion controls (playstation move, xbox kinect) and didn't have nearly the same amount of success as Nintendo did.
Finally, I think the N64 had more of an impact than Pat and Ian say it does. While it wasn't the first console to use these, It made four controller ports as well the analog stick mainstream (Sony didn't have analog sticks on the Playstation until a year or two after the 64's launch), and it arguably was the first to truly bring first person shooters to the home console.
The argument for N64 importance is that it was the first to do 3D gaming great. Mario and Ocarina were the blueprints for all 3D games that followed. And Goldeneye showed FPS was possible on consoles and kicked off the massive popularity of that genre.
Check out 3D Monster Maze (1981)
pretty much polygon based gaming as we know it now, which is most games today, how they play is mostly based on the blueprints from the N64. So as far as "most important" consoles, it should easily be up there with the most important consoles of all time.
That’s a very reductionist view of gaming history and 3d development lol
@@PutYourQuarterUpGaming not really. Most concepts of how we interact with polygon based 3D style games which are still the most common today were really pioneered by the N64.
@@hepwo91222 could you give some examples?
If I had to do my own list (home consoles only, no handhelds), numbers 1, 2, and 3 would be PS1, PS2, and SNES respectively. After that, it would be tougher for me to give a solid ranking to the rest. I know that my list would definitely include Genesis, Saturn, PCEngine, 2600, NES, GameCube, and I guess PS4.
I'm glad the Wii didn't make this list. Yeah, it sold a lot, but there really aren't that many games that are must plays. Not a fan of N64, but I can see how it could be justified for the top 10. There may be only a couple dozen games worth playing, but those games are all really good and widely loved by the gaming community.
One thing I'll always remember about the PS2 (and PS3 to some extent) that was significant for the time was that the controller didn't change. Before then, every console had to reinvent the wheel and make a whole new controller with each new generation. Of course, part of that was that controllers were improving so each company wanted to be the model future improvements were based on, but I'd say PlayStation fully won that debate with their consistent design across each console generation.
Plus their shape buttons have fully ingrained in my brain more than any other controller layout. You ask me to press "Y" and I have to look, I don't know by heart where Y is on Xbox or Nintendo, but ask me to press "Square" and I immediately know.
15:57 Ian: "The stoners were playing Final Fantasy VII". Me: "I feel attacked".
I'm just glad the PS1 and PS2 are that high up. Love 'em!
good consoles, but "most important", not sure either should really be in the top 10 when it comes to historical significance in doing anything completely new or innovative?
Here is my top ten game consoles
1.SNES
2. Sega Genesis
3. Sony Play Station
4.PS3
5.PS2
6. Sega Saturn
7. PS4
8. 3DS
9.NES
10. Gameboy
In glad switch isn't on this list not inventive for the time
In no particular order.
Mega Drive
Dreamcast
Nes
GameCube
PS1
PS2
PS3
PS4
Xbox
Xbox 360
Definitely need separate lists when discussing best game consoles. One for the best in absolute terms and another for the best in terms of influence/importance.
Agreed
@Wiegraf You can't select your favorite drink without knowing the entire history of all drinks?
@Wiegraf I can't tell if you're deliberately misconstruing what's being said here.
@Wiegraf I understand what subjectivity is, man. I was speaking loosely and figured context would give enough clarity. Apparently, it was super confusing, so my b.
@Wiegraf I don't even see it as a mistake, given the context of obvious subjectivity. I could have instead used the term "subjective" and that would have prevented this conversation at least. You could choose which aspects you want to consider when making whatever list. Either way it'll be subjective in some sense, as the parameters you choose to value are technically subjective. This is why getting stuck in the philosophical weeds is a waste of time here. We know what's being said, and splitting hairs is a waste of time here.
I agree with PS2 being #1, but you forgot one thing that was a main reason for me..... backwards compatibility with ps1 games... i went from atari 2600 to nes, to genesis, to ps1 & n64, to ps2, to xbox360, to wii, to switch.
I'm not fan of the N64 but I'd slap it in the top 10. It was the first machine to do 3D gaming well. Mario 64 and OOT drew the blueprint on how 3D games should control. I'd probably drop it to 10 or 9 because, like you said, outside of a few core very important games the rest of the library is janky garbage lol
As for Sony, they came along at the exact right time. Right when folks who grew up on NES/sega were transitioning to teenagers and possibly out of gaming because it was "kids stuff". They specifically marketed to them and made sure there was plenty of games that appealed to them. They made it cool to continue playing games past the age of 12. Sony was smart enough to grow up with gamers and provide them with content to appeal to them.
I don't think the PS2 is really that great a system. I know it was popular at the time, but I thought it was only OK. Let's not forget the reason there were so high a number of PS2s sold is they broke a lot. And a lot of people used it as a DVD player. I'd probably have the NES number one just based on the significance of it.
PS2 sold at record numbers but is my least favorite Sony home console and other than high sales, I am hard pressed to think of how it was important or influential in gaming history? It was the McDonalds of videogames, it appealed to everyone, but was not that great. I mean its most important genre defining game GTA3 was also a XBox game, maybe I cna give PS2 credit for having it as a timed exclusive? Thats about it.
The N64 is the nostalgia console for people in their 30s to with disposable cash to be able to collect for it. It's also the last "good" cartridge based system. People love to collect cartridges. That's why it's currently so popular. We're also seeing the same thing with the Gamecube. People buying this stuff are usually in their 30s.
every portable NIntendo console stuck to cartridges including the current hybrid Switch.
@@hepwo91222 switch is more like SD cards
@@StabStabStabStabby every Nintendo portable had cartridges and the hybrid Switch has carts. Only Nintendo consoles that didn't use cartridges were the Wii, Wii U, and Gamecube, all their other consoles were cartridge based.
I only got a Nintendo 64 because it's 2021 and emulation of N64 is still terrible and has chuggy slowdown and graphics glitches. I did the smart thing and got a everdrive 64 because all the prices at my local retro game store are wayyy to high.
I was never a nintendo fan per se, but certainly enjoyed the N64 I got for xmas as a kid. I always thought it was another standard /good/ nintendo system, but retrospection from others' viewpoints demonstrates to me pretty well that it wasn't too great. I do remember the unimpressive gamecube, so I've taken my childhood impression and replaced it to be that the N64 and the GCN were similarly 'whatever.' Decent software, but the N64 itself didn't shake ground that generation.
Thanks for the conversation, Ian, Pat. Keep well~
They are downplaying how influential the N64 remains to this day. 3D polygon based gaming, N64 pioneered how we would interact with games like that which while they weren't invented there, N64 showed how those games should control and how to interact. N64 paved the way everyone to this day still follows, its like the Bible, Citizen Kane, or the Ford Motor T, when it comes to polygon based gaming.
I don't think the Wii should've been pushed off the list. It isn't just popularity; the system did have a major impact on both the market and the industry. Bumping it off the list simply cuz "all it had going for it was it was popular" is really short-sighted.
I thought for sure #2 was going to be the Atari 7800, and #1 was going to be the upcoming, and *highly-anticipated,* Amico Intellivision.
Ain't even out. Still number one.
@@danielwilliams7161 Agreed! This list was total garbage. 😒
I would have a completely different top 10. Not most influential but my "best".
1. Gameboy (inc. GBC)
2. Sega Genesis
3. Super Nintendo
4. Nintendo 3DS
5. Playstation 3 (OG model)
6. Nintendo Entertainment System
7. Switch (could get higher in time)
8. XBOX 360 (for backward compatibility)
9. ColecoVision (better than it's rivals)
10. Dreamcast
The 360 was a difficult one. Love fact it plays OG XBOX games (would swap with PS3 if list of favourite consoles), just that newer models do the same. If listing gaming in general I would put... 3. MSDOS, 7. ZX Spectrum and 8. C64.
I feel like a lot of people underestimate the developer learning that happened during the Wii because even though there where many games that did motion controls wrong, we would not have transitioned so smoothly into VR if developers had not learned what works and doesn't regarding motion controls starting with the Wii.
I’m slightly over 40…😂😂😂
Here is my list:
Super Nintendo
NES
PS1
Genesis
Xbox 360
PS4
Switch
Saturn
Dreamcast
Xbox
I feel like ya’ll brushed over the Wii and frankly dont think thats fair. The Wii introduced people to gaming that may have never tried it otherwise. Grandparents, etc. Even if it was just Wii Sports (bowling) thats still impressive to me. I think we forget just how EXCITED people got over the Wii at the time of its release (and for 2-3 years after the fact). I will admit that its unfortunate how many Wiis became paperweights, and the amount of shovelware was silly (then again, the Switch has more shovelware on the eShop at this point than the Wii ever did).
The wii is a great system. I still use mine for gamecube via component, Mario Kart Wii and it had a great eshop for retro games. I like that the controller comes in 2 pieces for comfort and the motion controls can be used well such as turbo boosts on mario kart jumps
The N64 is like the opposite of the PS2. It had only 10-20 solid games but they also happen to be the most iconic games in history. The PS2 had 100-200 solid games but only a handful of iconic ones.
The PS2 is definitely number 1 on my list. So many great games and memories.
The Super Nintendo will always be #1 in my book
Edit- not surprised with who the winner was, not my favorite but undeniable what a huge impact that system had. I got a GameCube during that Gen, then ragequit consoles out of dissapointment and played PC
Not to spoil anything, but backwards compatibility also plays a big part to “you know what”.
My list: (Chronological order, not ranked)
NES
Genesis/Mega Drive
Game Boy
SNES
PSX
PS2
DS
XBox 360
Wii
Switch
And I'm a Sega fanboy. It kills me to not put Dreamcast on there. Atari 2600 might deserve to be on there, but I hate it.
Switch is #1 for me...it has a phenomenal library, and the hybrid aspect is the definition of console innovation. Here’s to hoping the next Switch will be backwards compatible w/the carts. (Not digital only)
If we want physical media to live on then we must support it as much as possible, show them we still want it, and not just shrug our shoulders and give in. I refuse to support digital.
You are right about the PS2 bridging gaming into the mainstream acceptance. In the early 00s console gaming was still considered by many to be a kids activity.
It would be "wax poetic about Wegmans."
Can't disagree too much with the top 10, maybe move the order for a couple, but that's about it. I'd probably have put the PS3 in there over the N64 for the reasons Pat said, even though N64 was a great console. I think the next 10, in no particular order should be:
PS3,
Dreamcast,
Xbox,
GameCube,
Xbox One X,
Master System,
Sega CD,
Intellivision,
Wii U,
Atari 7800
Don’t forget that the ps2 was backwards compatible with no additional purchases necessary, which undoubtedly help propel it forward.
My ranking would be:
1.NES
2. PS2
3.Neo Geo AES
4. SNES
5. Playstation
6. Sega Genesis
7.Atari 2600
8. Nintendo Switch
9. Xbox 360
10. Turbografx 16
1. HyperSpin PC 2. Launch PS3 3. PS5 4. PS2 5. PS4 6. XB1 7. 360 8. WiiU+Wii 9. SNES 10. PS1 11. Genesis 12. NES 13. XBOX 14. GCN 15. DC 16. Saturn 17. Switch 18. DS 19. PSP 20. GB 21. GG 22. MS 23. Oops forgot N64 put that in 14th before GCN. 24. 3DO 25. 32X 26. Jaguar 27. TG16 28. Neo Geo 29. Well I guess TG16 and Neo Geo should go before Master System in 23rd.
If it wasn't for Mario 64, Zelda OOT, & Goldeneye, no one would care about the N64. Those were genre defining games.
thats 3 more exclusive games than PS2 in defining genres yet PS2 is number 1 on this list? "Most important" and "best" or "favorite" consoles are different things.
N64 top 10 for sure. 90s defining games are enough to justify the ranking.
I'm surprised Pat thinks the 360 controller is ass. A lot of people still use that controller even with the newer generations out. It's one of the reasons people actually played multiplat games on xbox instead of the playstation back in the day.
360 controller was good except for one huge flaw, its D-Pad was ass. Its good for anytihng else other than games where I use a D-Pad such as many fighting games.
ps2 man them wrestling games
PlayStation 2 is my favorite, backwards compatibility has been pretty much abandoned. And it’s also hardy, unlike the modern consoles that are just janky PCS it can survive decades.
if i was making a Top 10 Consoles the PS2 is really my #1 choice, it was so GOOD and games were being made for it for YEARS, only finally stopping after 10 years of existing, because i believe it came out in 2000? it had a HUGE Library and that was made even bigger because of the backwards compatibility, if i was only allowed to pick one console for the rest of my days, it would hands down be the PS2 model 1.
I would of though the dream cast would be in the top 10 as it was so ahead of it's time.
“amico amico amico amico amico amico amico amico is that ten? i don’t do basic math like most of u losers, i spent all my life shredding hot guitar riffs and driving sexy exotic sports cars” -tommy taintareeko
GameCube is my favorite of the Sixth Generation. PS2 has a massive library, sure but truly iconic games? I think the GameCube can match it. Plus third party games ran worse on the GameCube
Sega Genesis IMO should be top 5, both for the overall quality of its library AND its importance. That system kept Nintendo honest and forced them to compete compared to the NES days, when they virtually monopolized the home console market and strong-armed third parties.
I agree. NES got me into gaming; the Sega Genesis got me to stay. The quality and level of refinement made it feel like an adult console. Aside from the music quality; just look at the design of the console itself! It looked like premium audio equipment. To this day; there hasn't been a console that looks as good.
luv the Genesis and did offer competition to Nintendo, but "most important" consoles for gaming, not sure I would put it in the top 10. As far as my personal favorites, easily top 10.
@@hepwo91222 fair enough, the whole 'important' angle is entirely subjective of course. I dont see how it's less important than something like the PS4 based on my own criteria.
@@gp63 don't think any of the Playstation consoles were that important as far as pushing innovations in gaming, all were really good consoles with good vast libraries. But as far as all time importance? I mean Magnovox Odyssey, NES, SNES, N64, would top the list for me, as far as the topic of importance in gaming history.
It may be cheating, but I do count newer consoles supporting games for older consoles. Meaning, I think 3DS is better than DS because you can play BOTH 3ds and ds games on it. Same with PS1 and PS2, PS4 and PS5 and GBA/GBC/GB.
Is Ian alright? He's shaking a lot in this video. He's always animated but he looks like he's got caffeine jitters to the max.
In my opinion the best gaming console is the PSP it natively supports the entire PSX library on top of its own, unlock it with home-brew and it becomes a multimedia emulation beast and unlike the switch its real handheld portable device...1
PSP also had a web browser in a mobile device before it became the norm in smartphones.
The SNES got the rare big 3 right: Great first party support, great 3rd party support, and was graphically/audibly superior to its competition. It deserves to be where it's at. Nintendo hasn't been able to nab the big 3 ever again since.
I was an Xbox fan over ps2 because of the superior graphics and video quality. I think many people had all 3 systems (gamecube) since they all had their own perks
was the original XBox the first gaming console to have a hard drive? Also I think it might have had the first controller to use sticks as press down buttons too? Not sure PS2 did anything we still see in gaming today that started with it?
I think it was. Not needing a memory card was great. I loved uploading my CDs and creating my own game soundtracks, it looked amazing via component 480p, the extra buttons were helpful, and I feel the controller is better for shooters. I bought all my fighting games on PS2 however because of the superior dualshock d-pad
oh wow... what a tough subject to make a Top 10 of, that's rough for me... hmmm....
This list lost its credibility when it put the Playstation 4 over the Genesis in terms of importance. Really? The Genesis was a massive game-changer in the 90s and forced Nintendo to actually compete in a market where they didn't need to, and the resulting competition upped the quality of both the Genesis and (later) the SNES. It also provided (for those looking for it) an edgier, more "mature" alternative to Nintendo's family-friendly offering (see - the original Mortal Kombat). What was the PS4's influence? The death of physical games complete on disk?
The N64 being anywhere on a "top 10 important consoles" also has me scratching my head. The only lasting power the system had in terms of making an influence on the industry was Mario 64 showing how 3D platformers should be done, and Goldeneye laying the groundwork for console shooters. Everything else - the squid controller, the cartridges, etc. was scrapped. Combined with its small library (even smaller when you factor the games anyone cares about), lack of JRPGs, and I don't see how this console was massively influencial. Mario 64 was very important, but it's not enough to carry the system.
16:36 I'd agree with Ian here, certainly in my circles.
Loads of my mates picked up a PS2, and some even the PS1, but had never grown up playing Master System, NES, or even the Megadrive and SNES. Seemed everyone had a PS2 though
"most important" console shouldn't be based on sales. I can't think of much the PS1 and PS2 did to push the gaming industry forward from how we play games, to spawning new genres, or to even doing something innovative in its hardware? It was important in Sony was a market leader for a decade straight and had good libraries, but thats about it.
@@hepwo91222 yeah. I'm not saying it should be based on sales.
Just a comment on what Ian had touched on, as I noticed that in my circles and he'd expressed that he wondered.
People who were never into games, or even had Speccy or C64 which most gaming kids had, would then around the PS1/PS2 era would decide to get involved. I do think it was the sports games which drove this a lot.
Most my mates got it for FIFA or whatever football game was current.
And also the Gran Tourismo series.
But still, I couldn't get half of them to join me in a fight on Tekken.
To me, it did seem the PlayStation brought in a lot of my, traditionally non gamer friends, into the world of consoles
I know a lot of people got into the ps2 just because it was a dvd player. It really caused more people at least in my circle to try videos and look at them when prior they were not interested. It was simply I want a cheap devices to get cheaper movies aka DVDs and at the time it was the cheapest DVD player. Even places not known for carrying game systems sold ir as a DVD player Mostly. I think that is hugely important
@@hepwo91222 crash bandicoot pioneered dynamic memory page pooling and spyro pioneered LOD. gran turismo also served as a less arcade-like racing sim as compared to other systems at the time I guess. hardware wise the ps1 was just all round a good architecture for developers to come to, moreso than the others. that and it had a great fmv codec chip, the saturn's wasn't as good, I can't remember if the n64 had one. as for the ps2 its pretty much just better graphics and backwards compat... as for genres I think things were probably wrapped up by mario 64. I guess maybe metroidvania with symphony on the ps1??? that's a debate in and of itself though...
@@nebulosa553 Crash was a good game, but Mario 64 was thee 3D platformer to set the standard for that generation and going forward. Gran Turismo is influential, you are right, the racing sim was never quite nailed down like that until GT, but that genre these days are really two series, GT and Forza, so its influential for a very small group of games. SotN is one of the best Metroidvanias of all time, but I think Super Metroid really set the standard 3-4 years earlier on SNES. I guess JRPG's became really popular on PS1. Overall though, I am not sure any Playstation console ever pioneered or pushed the gaming medium forward, great consoles, with some great libraries, but inventiveness and "importance" were often form their more risk taking competitors.
Gamecube should have been in the top ten
If the Nintendo 64 was CD-based rather than cartridge-based, we'd be living in an alternate timeline of gaming right now.
N64 is still way more influential to this day on how we interact with 3D based polygon games than its disc based competitors ever were.
I know this sounds absurd; but for me; the Switch is the greatest console of all time. I have never played not bought as many games for any console (even Steam); than the Switch. They way I have been able to play my games during commutes, down time at work, in between commercial breaks and with friends at gatherings; is a complete game changer in every sense of the word. The variety of games that I enjoy and can enjoy with others; does it for me. However; it kills me that some of Nintendo decions have stopped it from being even greater (not selling their retro back catalog, not at least overclocking the CPU and GPU in docked mode; ect).
If it is about games the 3ds wii ds are better
Surely the DS or Gameboy deserved a top 10 spot. I would replace the N64 with either one of those 2 handhelds.
NES
SNES
PSX
PS2
PS4
MEGADRIVE
GAMECUBE
DREAMCAST
GAMEBOY
NINTENDO 64
What?! The Amico should be at number 1!!! Where else can you play pre-existing phone games with decade old tech!
SNES, Xbox 360, PS1, PS2, PS4, Genesis, Dreamcast, NES, Gamecube, GBA (yes I know that's kinda cheating to put GBA on there but I couldn't come up with 10)
The Wii should be in there
At 10th or 9th place
The title of this video is a little misleading.
yeah, favorite videogame consoles of all time is not the same as most important. Odyssey is the most important as the first, but as far as one's favorite, that is completely subjective.
As for the N64, nope..the only thing it did innovative was the analog stick. But I think it actually set Nintendo back quite a bit. It had abysmal 3rd party support, and only a handful of 1st party games that are always talked about.
N64 is the most influential console for modern games as we know them now.
No love for the Neo Geo AES???
how many people you know owned an AES? Yeah prob why its not on the list.
@@robmoye7373 I thought the criteria didnt include how many consoles sold, but rather their importance and impact on home gaming. Neo Geo AES was the first console to bring the actual arcade experience home.
@@ConqueringWeightLoss It didn't bring anything home for most people. Just to be clear Neo Geo games are awesome. Just don't see how it had much of an impact when they werent even in most stores.
My favorites..
1. NES
2. PS4
3. Nintendo Switch
4. PS2
5. XBOX Series X
6. XBOX 360
7. PS5
8. N64
9. SNES
10. Sega Genesis
I guess PS5, Nintendo Switch and XBOX Series X play PS4, NES and 360 games so that kinda muddies the water for me with regards to rankings.
Nintendo switch isn't that high end for the time
@@joshentertainment2 Not at all, but I love the games and portability.
@@joshentertainment2 Not at all, but I love the games and portability.
PS2 had GTA3, one of the first games to appeal to everyone. Agreed 100% with Ian on that.
But X360 having a bad gamepad? In my opinion it defined what controllers would look like from that point on, even Sony went with a bulkier design for the PS5 controller. as for the D-Pad - I don't know why people say it's bad. I could easily play fighting games on a 360's D-Pad from Tekken to DOA, but I can't do that on the purely cross-shaped ones of today - had to buy a fight-stick to be able to continue playing these games.
That d pad on the 360 is God awful and basically unusable
GTA 3 did not appeal to everyone. My mum absolutely hated me playing it :)
@@SquinkyThreepwood What I meant is every potential gamer out there. Before GTA3 there weren't really games with that amount of appeal that I remember. The combination of freedom, story, action, adult themes and simple mechanics created a game that appealed to nerds and jocks, casuals and hardcore gamers, older and younger. I've seen people who normally played only Fifa or only racing games get into GTA3. In my opinion this was the first wide-appeal game - a genre that has many examples nowadays from Uncharted to Assassin's Creed.
@@ThatDjinn Yeah, I knew what you were driving at. I was just being silly.
GTA3 was pretty much the first 3D based polygon game to nail the open world genre, but it wasn't exclusive to PS2, it was also on Xbox.
Best backwards compatible console ever?
1. PS3
2. Wii
3. Ds lite
XBox Series X? 4 generations of console games.
PS2 was great and all, but how many are out there still functioning? Its a dead end console that has a huge library of games with no continued backwards compatibility.
SNES can still be had and are still solid functioning consoles to this day. Companies are still making and releasing new games for the SNES.
SNES still getting love in 2021 while the PS2 ages away.
#1 spot goes to The Super Nintendo.
Dude are you serious? You can EASILY find a functioning PS2 these days. Much more so than a SNES considering the PS2 sold millions more.
@@cloudtx I get that, but the disc drives were very prone to failure. Apparently the slim model scratched your game disc.
I bought one off of eBay and sure enough fail.
@@joyasmusicales603 I would argue and honestly but Genesis as #2 over PlayStation in my book.
I still have a fully functioning PS Slim but my SNES still works, just not the controller ports, so its kind of useless without fixing the controller ports.
Ps2 was really the era where so many genres emerged and companies were willingly trying new things out, new IPs etc. Everything just seems so copy and paste now, it’s really to bad
only new genre I can think of that spawned from that era was the 3D open world game, not a very innovative era, but had 4 good consoles, PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox, and Gamecube. It really refined and improved what was laid out by the N64 mostly.
@@hepwo91222 yea I guess that is true, IPs is what I miss the most, so many different entries across all the companies. Capcom was such a powerhouse back then. It’s criminal to see so many games begging remakes or new entries into the story
@@RetroReflux Konami i miss the most
The thing with the PS2, it was the first time from a technology standpoint that it ould play anything without sacrifice. Even thought the graphics have gotten better since, from a fun factor and gaming experience the PS2 is the pinnacle. It was also the first console for true open world games.
NES had Legend of Zelda which was the first open world game in 1987 (1986 in Japan). I guess PS2 had the first real 3D polygon based open world game in GTA3, but wasn't exclusive as Xbox also had it.
Interesting ps2 is no1 the console i had the longest is a very good console nes great too still have it
wii has no place in the top 20. an abject failure as a GAMES CONSOLE. it doesn't matter how many million of systems they sold to non gamers on a pointless gimmick.
as most important console it has to be atari 2600 or NES.
my fave will always be PSX, this is when games grew up and made you feel things other than just the joy of overcoming the challenge of the game. but this applies to the whole generation rather than just the playstation.
Wii had IMO the best 3D platformer of all time in SMG, my favorite on rails shooter ever in Sin and Punishment Star Successor, had other bangers like Metroid Prime 3 Corruption, two Zelda games, Wii Sports, Fire Emblem, SMG2, Punch Out, Xenoblade Chronicles, I mean it had a really good library if you just ignored the party shovelware games and stuck to mostly Nintendo's offerings.
If the 3DS is not there I'm gonna vandalize the whole channel.
Now its personel... kid!
Sounds like it was in the 11-20 range, judging by the “just missed it” intro Pat gives.