Demonstration: The Right & Wrong Way To Talk To Women
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Hey Alex,
Would you like a productive picnic with me?
😄😄😄😄
I'll bring the sandwiches.
Hey Alex, I really appreciate this video. This helps me a lot because my biggest struggle right now is the "first phase" of approaching women. Lately your focus was more centered on relationships instead of "flirting" or pick up. I would really appreciate if you continue to do content like this that helps creating new relationships.
Cheers!
If you ever find yourself having to do 90% of the talking it's because the girl is not interested in you. If she was interested it will be like a normal 50/50 conversation.
And if she does l the talking abd doesn't ask you any questions, it's because she just likes the attention, not you.
Wrong. Women should do the majority of talking in every interaction with a man. The balance should be about 70%-30% in favour of the woman. Speaking is a woman's realm. If she feels assured enough to speak her mind and heart away in your presence, she is 100% interested in you. That is how women express solid interest in a person, not just romantically. But, of course, romantic interest is clearly visible by the content of said conversations along with things such as the obvious body language cues (hair-touching, body turned in the man's direction etc.) as well as other variables such as a higher-pitched voice.
It is pretty simple to understand when a woman is interested in you when you understand female nature. It is even easier to know whether she is using you for attention and validation which is what the majority of women do for men.
If she is not enthusiastically-engaged with you through her entire body's expression, she is not interested and it is time to move on. You do not negotiate desire at any time. It's either a hell-yes or a hell-no.
@@jkfd97 yea I agree, that's why all those videos about "how to tell if a girl likes you" are kind of pointless. Unless your very socially inept it's very obvious if a girl likes you
the problem is that they never have anything to actually talk about. men don't care about gossip or beauty advice or celebrities
@@jkfd97 look at my previous comment, they never have anything to say that interests men. men always have to pretend and keep listening to their drivel
I'm pretty sure even Chad would crash and burn if he approached 4 girls having a picnic in the park. Even if all 4 girls were interested, just because they were together, they would feel awkward in front of the other girls...and try to shame the guy.
By Chad, you meant the cameraman. Take him away and you get their uninhibited, natural responses. Saving face is all a woman cares about when she's on camera for the world to see, and even then, in the right environment (clubs, bars, or just TikTok in general), she will speak her mind completely. Female shame has disappeared from the West. At least the silver-lining is the women not worth approaching with all of the red flags in the world are more visible than a neon sign in a pitch black night sky.
Social media has done a better job of vetting women for relationship material than any dating coach ever has. They tell on themselves all the time now. All you have to do is be awake to the truth of female nature.
@@jkfd97
If you're seeing this from a Christian perspective, everyone's a sinner, technically
Chad who?
Seems that you never approached a girl in your life.
I agree with @@ApexAL. I know a handsome (good) player and 9/10 the group accepts him no matter how big it is
honestly you could respond to the boyfriend thing with a compliment as well by saying lucky guy he found a faithful one. Its a good way of leaving the situation positively. Accepting you were rejected but not being bitter and insulting her over it and also not accepting her rejection as diminishment of your own value by acknowledging if she wasn't taken you still think she would value you if she knew you. It's a win win in a technical loss situation.
Boyfriends are like trains. There'll always be another one along in a minute.
Never truly single, rarely truly in a relationship. You can eject that way, you could also respond with "hes not invited", "I have one too, let's not tell them", "if you were my girlfriend, you wouldnt talking to me, youd be with your boyfriend, so you would be talking to me", et cetera. "I have a boyfriend" could be genuinely true, it can be a rejection, and it can be a test. If you have thick skin, you have the social freedom to find out. A reinforcement from her is your opportunity to shrug your shoulders and say "meh, cant win em all, nice meeting you"
Women love to be approached by random bald dad bod guys as long as they are socially calibrated.
😂
Lol
And use tactical soap. And maintain frame
Yeah. Alexander is positivity-hustling in this video, sadly.
Roflcopter
The woman laughing has nothing to do with anything he said. He didn't "make her laugh." In fact, women laughing with a man is simply a sign that they're interested/attracted, regardless of what's been said. Woman: "Oh, you think my dress is ugly? Hahaha, I have to agree!" See? Woman who are attracted to a man will laugh and smile regardless. Men who try to be funny in order to get a woman to open up and be more invitational are likely to reveal attraction, not create it.
I think she was just nervous, I doubt she was attracted to him
I also laugh when I’m nervous and uncomfortable and don’t know what to do, and I’m a girl so you are actually not right…
nope, if women don't know you they raraly laugh because of attraction or because they find something you said funny. Women use laughing as an ice breaker, mostly to defuse a somewhat awakward situation.
cope
@@XGoldenPhoenixX it's usually pretty easy to tell the difference between a nervous laugh and a flirtatious one. One will have a lot of smiling and eye contact, and the other will not
Appreciate the insight doc, but men shouldn't have to be PhDs in social psychology to communicate with modern women.
Bring the asteroid.
Thank you 🤣🤣🤣🤣. This video is so cringe by alex
depending on your age range, communication is going to be extremely difficult. Women under 30 who have grown up with smartphones and social media tend to be more socially awkward in face to face encounters.
Totally. Way too much work.
thankfully, you dont need to have a PhD. Doing it a few dozen times and practicing and seeing what works, is fine enough^^
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Saying nothing and walking right past is the best interaction.
Not really an interaction but I know what you mean xd
Best way to dodge a bullet - or more.
@@MightyElemental rethoric 🤣
It's also the best way to not meet anyone.
@@Youttubeuser20932 meeting randos in big W.E.I.R.D cities you have no real connections to is FKIN LAME!
Well, I think by far the biggest difference between the two interactions is talking to 1 female vs group of females. Period.
Thank you. That's the difference. Alex's is take Is ridiculous. Guys who look too deep at what was said are so low iq tbh. Truth is most interactions go well depending on the girls mood and how attractive you are.
@@loverofhumanity Agreed. The difference between approaching a single female vs a group of females is gigantic - the size of Mount Everest (the first metaphor that came to my mind)!
Yes, the man in the video does say a few things wrong, the worst one being the assumption "you girls look like you know about the flea market", but the truth is he was facing an uphill struggle the second he approached the group.
Anyone who has been out there "in the field" even for a day, or has even basic knowledge of male/female psychological differences, is well aware that a female alone often acts in a manner completely opposite vs being in a pack.
Can't say I've ever had a bad experience with a group of women. But I never approached them to get something from it, other than fun interaction. And when it's fun, things often turn out great. Because a group of women has got not one... Not two, but like... A whole group of those things. So it can set a great stage for getting into contact with a potentially interesting lady.
Well, to be fair, the first girl had a Boyfriend, which makes women to be friendlier and more reactive or engage more in the conversation as a preventive measure for the later rejection, when she brings up that she has a Boyfriend. It happened to me countless times and I can tell the difference, usually has little to do on how do I approach or if I let her speak etc, she is just anticipating the rejection and de-escalating any possible bad reaction from the guy.
When they have a boyfriend they're the friendliest most outgoing people in the world, aren't they? Because they have a "safety net" in the interaction.
Two most common default answers used
by a women to turn a man down: #1 - "I'm Busy" #2 "I have a boyfriend"
@@alexbrisbane3050 translation: "I'm full of s***"
20seconds in, my best guess (while being pretty bad at social situations myself) is that in the scenario in which the girls are sitting down he is both: tall & imposing (due to standing) and interrupting a planned out social outing vs someone walking somewhere.
Bingo. Seems I'm learning, Thanks Alex.
@@ApexAL Playfulness is so essential in all romantic/sexual interactions between men and women. Good job for reminding us of that.
to interrupt a planned social gathering and have it go smoothly you have to be a bit manipulative actually beforehand otherwise it can only be an in the moment accidental thing that you make the most of. Say have a friend you play frisbee with or ball catch with and just have your friend do a bad throw giving you a reason to interrupt them as you walk past and grab the ball and say excuse me ladies. Or it could be anything else, essentially you need to find a reason to be in their damn area that is not about imposing on them in order to impose on them while in the area of doing your own thing if they seem receptive once you do your greeting in passing. Maybe remark like jeeze he needs more practice huh?
Reasons never to approach women who are in groups.
1- They are in the space where they are interacting with their friends in a female space so may not welcome you joining them uninvited and they have to adjust to you as a man- this is mentally jarring
2- Women are very conscious of what their peers think, if the other women do not approve of you, she needs to know that before she can give you signals of approval, she will not do this in a group and risk being thought of negatively by her peers
3- If are lucky enough to have two of the group attracted to you, one of them is going to pick up the queue very quickly which one you are focussing on and wish to date and will sabotage the interaction- the classic C**K Blocking we all know.
I was born in 1980, and my generation considers this mentally ill behaviour.
Chad is well received because of how he looks.
Everyone is treated like a creep.
It’s nothing to do with what is said.
That’s the reality.
What a defeatist mentality
Yes if she likes your look then of course she's gonna be happy and willing to interact 😂💔
@@Takashii85 Would you rather be happy or would you rather be right?
@@jkfd97 I'd rather be HAPPY! All about the mindset. It can make you do powerful things
@@Takashii85 Fine. But don't complain when truth comes calling and takes what it wants from you, regardless of whether it makes you happy or not. As long as you are prepared and satisfied with that, I can have no issue. That would make you a huge minority in that class of people however.
Many women will say they have a boyfriend as a polite way of saying "I'm not interested". Especially if she does feel uneasy or threatened, so as not to potentially anger him and end up in an escalating scenario of "Oh so you're too good for me huh" etc.
What's a good response, then? "You're not just saying that to get rid of me, are you?"
@@trucid2 No that's just as bad, it screams of insecure and possessive. It's likely going to make her very uncomfortable. If you play it right, cool and charming, you can still get some taken girls if you just want a fun time with her lol, but tread lightly and slowly because if she really does have a bf and is loyal you'll probably just agitate her. A lot of guys won't care about that because they only want one thing from her anyway. All depends on who you are and who she is.
@@trucid2 The correct response is to be a man that women would enthusiastically cheat on their boyfriend/break their rules for. Simple as that.
@@KenshinPhoenix Every Western woman will cheat on her boyfriend/husband if he is not her hypergamous best.
And every woman has a "boyfriend" until you're attractive enough to her.
I want to see short guys do pick up.
I don't care about seeing tall guys do pick up again.
there's a dwarf you should see
Yeah you're right want to see an average guy
@@teammj2855 I would like to see below average to be honest.
@@teammj2855 no, I want to see a less than average guy do it. If these techniques have been "proven" to work, then shouldn't they work even for guys who need to overcome the huddle of their undesirable appearance?
@@obviouslyasockpuppet 👌
Men, do not hesitate for one moment to put a restraining order against your female partner if you feel your safety and health is in jeopardy. Placing a permanent restraining order on my female partner was absolutely the wisest protective move of my adult lifetime. My only regret is not doing it years earlier. Men, be safe!
Bro you keep posting the same comment over and over again. We get it man
That could be a good opinion opener. Do you think it's ok for a guy with multiple restraining orders to date underage women or is it better to wait for the orders to expire?
i think you are in denial since you are posting this comment over and over.
@@dwdwone wat
*It takes so much research, learning, studying, training, mind-reading and expertise to talk to women well. So much work. I've basically gone to college on youtube just to learn how to talk to girls without getting rejected.*
I stopped paying attention to women a good while ago. I'd rather spend my time doing something that brings me joy.
If you think that first interaction is good pickup, it’s just further evidence to me that pickup never feels socially natural and is cringe and likely doesn’t work
The best relationships begin from organic interactions in public between men and women that _already_ confirm physical attractiveness in each other, not through cold approach or online dating apps.
Example A: man sitting on a bench, waiting for his friend to arrive in town to go and hang out. Woman man finds attractive comes and sits on the same bench, they share some short eye-contact and a smile (revealing both find each other attractive) before she sits down. Woman pulls out a book. Man notices after a few seconds: "Lord of the Rings".
Man's brain: "Wow, she's gorgeous _and_ likes my favourite book?!"
Man: Wow, you have great taste in reading material.
Woman: Oh, thanks! (nice smile).
Man and woman proceed to have a great conversation and exchange contact info.
Example B: Woman working at Starbucks on a quiet day, man is the only person in line waiting behind the current customer, both share eye contact and a little smile (again, mutual attraction) as she puts through the customer's payment. Man approaches the counter where woman eagerly greets him.
Man: "Hey, how's your day going?"
Woman: "It's going great, thanks. What can I get you today?"
Man: "Hmm... how about you decide for me? I want the richest, most flavoursome coffee on the menu. I'm sure your opinion isn't the worst to ask for."
Man and woman laugh playfully and share some more flirtatious exchanges and exchange contact info.
Without the previous clear-and-obvious choosing signals/signs of attractiveness (the eye contact and smiles) between the two in both scenarios, the foundation of the interaction changes completely. Establishing an interaction with the _certainty_ that both participants like what they see in the other does half the work, the other half is just making the interaction fun, playful and flirtatious enough that sealing the contact info is all but a guarantee.
@@jkfd97 Nobody is gonna read all that. What are you, a scientist? 😂 Spend less time studying the science of engineering "natural" connections with potential partners and more time just living your life and taking the opportunities that arise.
random approaches almost never work.
@@icewallowkum1566 its a bit harder than when you got your first 3 boyfriends bud
@@Blox117this your attempt at banter?
Alexander, you are correct! If someone that I just met would be like "woah, you're so rude, you interrupted me!" when I was simply eager to share something and didn't realize he had more to say, I'd start feeling uncomfortable around him. I'd continue the interaction for as long as is polite, but then try to remove myself from it, and choose to not continue the acquaintance.
I can totally relate to the sentiment that people who interrupt all the time and have no consideration for what you have to say are incredibly annoying. But every once in a while, we all end up accidentally talking over someone without realizing they had more to say. If a man acts offended when something like this happens and is unable to recognize when it's accidental rather than a pattern, that creates a negative tension which isn't going to improve the relationship, or the process of getting to know each other.
I swear, stranger danger is blown away out of proportion these days. I blame the media for sensationalizing those rare occurrences where a woman is actually attacked by a random guy. Also, I feel like women just use it as a convenient excuse to ignore anyone they don't want to talk to. Imagine if men did that or had the power to just ignore people
Why should they speak to people they don't want to talk to?
@@icewallowkum1566 probably so society doesn't degrade into anti social behavior and so that a generation of men don't grow up hating ♀
Yup you're correct and Alex is super annoying in this video trying to actually act as if it's some legitimate thing. It happens but I'd so rare. The reality is women use it as a cover as you said to reject unattractive men and keep them from talking to them. As smart as Alex is he sometimes has unusually low iq takes such as this one.
The media has an agenda and making our society friendlier and more cohesive isnt part of it. They prefer people isolated and fearful for some reason.
@@icewallowkum1566 because it's polite? If a stranger comes up to you in public and asks a question do you just ignore them?
YES, SO MUCH YES. the truest form of humility and wisdom, is to let someone be right for a change in a conversation, even if you know they are wrong OR, to acknowledge the feeling of stopping yourself from being overbearing, and letting the flow of the conversation form on its own. let someone else have the day once in awhile. sometimes people have a different perspective and view on things, and sometimes just stopping and hearing the story can actually be awesome, and is one of the true forms of flattery.
Wut? Nah bruv. Facts matter.
She wants the day, she can have it. But grounded in reality.
Being overbearing can be bad, yes. But being passionate and unwavering is generally seen as good, even if many don't like it.
The right way to approach women: Be attractive.
The wrong way to approach women: Be unattractive.
Underrated comment 😆
Attractive as in good looking, rich and socially calibrated, not just about looks
@@TheSchemer1 Looks are your resume, money and personality/social skills are the job. If you don't have good looks the other 2 won't matter.
@@EdmontonRails stealing this comment, good analogy
True to a degree, fine. Constantly commenting and thinking this will not help you, though. Majority of normal women care more about your personality. So, if you're ugly, yes, you have to actually work hard to make yourself likeable. Big boo hoo. Get out of that victim mindset.
I like that this guy isn't a "Pickup artist" he is genuinely breaking down the psychology to actually help men long term.
He actually failed on the psychology, "you look like you know where the flea market is" sounds like "nice clothes, where did you get them, the trash can?" Which was just ignored entirely by the guy giving fake advice on dating. His help could hinder your chances, people are different, be yourself, keep calm and go in with the frame of reference of the feeling when an ugly(by your personal standards) chick was trying to seduce you, try not to be her, fluency in social interactions(being able to read the room) and knowing how your words sound("you are cute" or pretty can sound as an insult if the other person is in that "mean girls"(the movie) mood) is advisable, men and women want the same thing, a happy life with someone to do the dishes and cook, with some fun on the side, that is why men prefer a trad wife, and women, wealthy (and fateful) people who can afford a maid. Be the others missing piece and everyone gets happy, expect to receive as much as you give or be disappointed when you want much more, flee when recieving much less.
🤣 I love Andrew. Been watching this dude for years and is hilarious!
Edit: I also like to add that the second interaction was with a group of females and they tend to act completely different (mean girl attitude) while in a group which is probably why he was shut down.
Yes, never approach a group of females unless you are gigachad, and NEVER drool over the queen bee of the group, if posible ignore.
The guy was lame. He even said to the women he wanted to be elsewhere. Lol He wanted directions to a flea market so it wasn't as if he made any impression he wanted to be around the women.
And a flea market? Just bizarre random nonsense. He could have said "I'm looking for the NASA rocket launch site. I heard it's nearby."
That would have been just as dumb as a flea market. 😄 It's so incongruous.
@@bobsmithy9024 if you watch the whole video on his channel intact it was a vlog to the flee market
This is much better for the community. Thanks Alexander!! Looking forward for more videos like this
I know Im late to the party, but in the first interaction, it also helped that he started out with "I was on my way to meeting a friend." As it demonstrates to her that he also has places to go, so this is just going to be real quick.
Wait, did he just approach her from behind while angling off to the side. I call BS. That was staged. One thing I learned early on is that you can approach women in public from the front. But from behind, you're instantly going to make them nervous and uncomfortable.
These days a lot of uploads are staged...uploaders are career yootoobers and there are a lot of them competing for audience and $$$.
@Salt Meister even them....
Check out social animal channel, he has authentic interactions, very cool channel
I don't intend any disrespect but you don't sound like you have a lot of experience approaching. The variability of outcome between interactions is much higher than the variability between optimising individual aspects of an interaction like the direction of approach. Which is to say that, yes, making yourself visible before you start talking to the girl is preferable, but that's not possible in all situations and if you don't manage it it's not necessarily the end of the world. The chances of her speeding up and running away are increased, sure, but it's nothing like 100%. Not approaching because you couldn't get a good angle on the other hand, that's a much bigger mistake.
@@shugyosha7924 The thing is, how you approach, if you get her think it is in her interest like if she lost things or hshe feels that you just want make a complement but you go directly on distance to give her room, than iyour irght. If you come very close after you approached her from behind, than you make her urn away for sure...so its all about how you play it.
I mean second one wasn't that bad. He know how to roll with the punches.
yeah I agree, I’ve seen way worse than this
Because the second approach involved a group of ladies. Female mate choice copying have multiplied the awkwardness.
The woman having the picnic are arranged like wagons, and he is an Indian approaching the perimeter.
Girl 1: if she likes you, she won’t have a boyfriend
Girl(s) 2: approaching a group of 3 or more women just to hit on them, guaranteed fail….I mean, which one are you hitting on?? And even if you zero in on one, it will be awkward - and even if that one girl likes you, her friends WILL block you
Just go full ray-ray/Tyrone mode.
The right way to talk to women is not to talk to them at all and just avoid all the drama and headaches
I feel that 😔
Hate to say it but, I’d have to agree. Women are starting to catch on to this and are actually coming up to guys. (Happened to me a few times)
@@P9rkour90 but that is a passive way that leaves you no choice what woman you will be interacting with
I’ve always done that and now I’m a 33 years old virgin…
Great comment wise man.
If he looked like Ian somerhalder or Brad Pitt, both interactions would have gone much much better
I had this friend in college who was goofy af, but he ALWAYS approached women and talked to them... like everywhere he went. For some reason he had this gift for talking to women, and 90% of the time they were into him. My shy introverted ass was the exact opposite, I never approached them lol
You should have become his understudy. Probably the only useful thing you would have learned in college, nowadays.
"productive picnic" yikes, sounds like an attempted guilt trip for them just relaxing, maybe say nice picnic. Also a group setup like that would probably be a level 10 impossible rating, for me anyway. 😄
Groups are way harder to approach, for sure.
He should've stuffed one of their sandwiches in his mouth.
"I have a boyfriend" is what most women say when a man is hitting on them and they aren't interest in him.
They do this because men are more likely to back off and less likely to get aggressive when they think a woman has a boyfriend, compared with when she just says she isn't interested.
So it doesn't mean they actually do have a boyfriend. She may... but her saying so means literally nothing.
And I'm pretty surprised as well as somewhat disappointed that you assumed she actually has a boyfriend just because she said she did...
It means you should leave her alone, she is either taken or not interested, move on!
Maybe I'm too blackpilled but this guy only has height going for him. He's not in Shape and he's bald, you can fix the in shape thing so do it my man, you might have better luck with both sets. First girl, doesn't matter if she has a boyfriend if the guy is a Chad. They don't usually say that if they like you, they adopt a wait and see strategy 9/10 for the right guy. Because they test him to see if he's a better option than her 'boyfriend.' If he is then she will give him a shot.
Any man that thinks loyalty is a quality that any woman possesses in the West is in for a rude awakening sooner or later (usually the former).
Agree on the height. I would like to see a 5"6 guy like me doing the same thing
believe it or not, there's a difference between "bald" and "shaved head". Women (at least a significant portion of them) love guys with shaved heads. But if you're bald-ing and have the whole receding hairline thing going, it's a different story.
@@shaunsteele8244 True that. Im shaved myself actually :)
I may not know what I'm talking about but really its not what you say but how you feel about what you say. Had he been uncaringly confident about himself and the joke wasn't delivered with a judgy, critical tone, it wouldn't have been a problem. Him being bold was not the issue, its that he became nervous after sensing it didn't land well. Now they realized that he was being bold for effect and that he's confidence wasn't real. As it says in the 48 laws, any mistakes committed through audacity is easily corrected with more audacity. Your hesitation and nervousness is what infects people with nervousness and makes them defensive.
Fantastic comment. Every standard interaction with a woman is naturally going to be feelings-based, it's up to you to be able to navigate those feelings with her and create an environment where her words _feel_ validated and justified in being said to you.
Keep in mind, this is _not_ an approach you take with Western women. This is an approach you reserve for women of genuine relationship quality, in a culture that allows monogamy to exist. Do not disgrace such natural fantastic harmony between the sexes by wasting time on trying it with less woman and more man-with-tits.
Only truly feminine and pure women should have the luxury of feeling truly listened to and themselves valued enough by a man to have their emotions validated and navigated with care and attention with him. Do not hand out this special, exclusive behaviour for free, because it is priceless.
The only real solution to approaching is to do it. Practice approaching women with no goal. Just be friendly. Learn to read social cues accurately and understand female nature. That's it. It's not hard. The only hard part is rejection, if you want to even call it that. Once you get over yourself, it pretty much solves itself.
Don't fret too much fellas. Don't think too much about it. Cold approaching is just another crawl, walk, run skill if you want to master socializing with women for the specific goal of mating.
Another thing. 1% of the world might like you. Maybe less. Don't take it personal. Take care of the ones that do.
Very well thought analysis Alex. Although it would be interesting if you reenacted the park cold approach video and do things your way. I know it's not the focus of your channel but if you're going to critique you should follow up with the goods.
Don't ever approach a woman who's with her friends. Even if she's interested in you, she'll be too self-conscious about that THEY think of you to ever give you her number.
Great points In This video mate might make a similar video on this topic as a lot of men are misguided in this realm of cold approach
“Yo girl you look like you have fleas and know where I can cop some.” Has actually worked for me in the past.
Wtf is this guy talking about? The group of girls were smiling and were overwhelmingly quite nice to the guy. He didn't even get "rejected" because he didn't hit on them in the first place.
There's also nothing wrong with talking to groups of people vs talking to one chick, but when it comes to hitting on women, obviously 1v1 is much easier
Great video. Kudos to this guy for trying and helping us learn from his mistakes.
The issue with the picnic opener is he’s tall and standing over them, not the opener itself. Four women often don’t want to be interrupted at all (one might like you, even two, but you need all 4 to like you). His best chance was to kneel down on the approach. He could have said anything in any manner standing over them and it likely would have failed. Most “pickup” breakdowns like this one focus on the words, which are the least important part.
Yeah, women now a days put dating last, friends are usually first, sometimes family is first but those two are close.
@@sethaldrich6902 women have always put friends and family first. Why wouldn’t they?
You don't interrupt somebody's picnic, I'd have thought common sense would have told you that. Shook my head as soon as I saw the thumbnail
@@Englishsea24 Nah, pickup is pickup. You take your shot and move on if needed. But a group of 4 is tough, but doable.
What Alexander didn't show was the entire HR dept chasing the guy down the street after.
Those break-downs of videos are great. Please more of it!
He basically insulted them twice in less than a minute. And good on the woman who set the boundary she has a BF.
Ignoring them is always right and the way to go.
She wasn't into him; if he looked like Chad this would have been a different ending.
Classic AG! Missed this kind of content a bit.
You never want to open with a looks based remark. Only compliment womens looks if you’re not interested or if mutual attraction has been made clear. Absolute rule. I can’t believe guys do cold approach. It’s just annoying to women. genuinely friendly situational small talk that isn’t transparently running game is so much better.
You sound like such a hero...so much that it's sickening. The cold approach doesn't always fail.
approaching women lying down on the grass while you are standing not good
Even if three out of the four were friendly you still have a hard time
Exactly. Already approaching a woman in a 1 vs 1 is tough as F. But 4-5 of them. You will in 99.99% of the case be the fool they will laugh about. And what's worst is that you are an annoyance to their eyes and they are waiting only for you to gtfo. Like you could tell they were stopping what they were doing and resuming it when he left ... I think these pickup artists pour vitriol on this by showing videos on CZcams how they nail it ...
4 women on the grass having a pick nick, it was never going to end well,MASSIVE ask!
Mistake 1, approaching a girl. Mistake 2, not being extremely good-looking.
approaching a group of 4 is a no win situation .. plus those girls didnt look like the type that get much attention usually so they probably find it very awkward and especially unwanted if the guy isnt up to the standard they think they deserve.. (they are average 6-7 out of tens expecting 8 out of ten guy) (by the same token the guy is a 5 out of ten trying to get 7 out of 10 girls) everyones standards are out of wack
Your comment is very accurate. The only thing going through the minds of those women on an instinctual level is "this guy is nowhere near attractive enough for me". It's a subconscious process that dictates the entire future of a relationship or whether one even occurs in the first place. Briffault's Law. If the women doesn't benefit, no association takes place, and women only benefit when a man is superior to them, which nowadays means physically/alpha-fucks side of sexual strategy because they are their own providers/beta-bucks side of sexual strategy.
How do you know another man is a 5 outta 10 in sexual attractiveness bro?
@@icewallowkum1566 Because he is secure in his masculinity and can evaluate a man rationally and objectively without feeling like a closet homosexual. If that makes you feel uncomfortable, that's far more telling of you than it is about other men. Face your demon.
@@icewallowkum1566 maybe he watches Wheat Waffles.
If they are 6 or 7/10 then chances are they get a lot of attention from men. A girl doesn't need to look like a super model to be physically attractive.
If you approach group of girls, you get fool yourself anyway 😹
The first girl made a little step closer to him when she said she has a boyfriend. He quickly did a good job of making her feel safe with him. Its different from her saying, "I have a boyfriend, keep away". She didn't step back when she said it.
You're reading too much into the 2nd interaction. It was so short, it's meaningless.
I really don't think either of them are great. For most part, random women in public don't like being approached by random men, and will often say they have a boyfriend to get the man to stop talking to them. Also, the fact that woman acts friendly when the a random man approaches her doesn't necessarily mean she' not uncomfortable. The thing is, men often aren't particularly nice to women who they aren't attracted to, so men so a lot of us men assume that a woman couldn't possibly be friendly towards a guy she isn't interested in
In general if someone is attracted to you (goes for females talking to a guy too), you’ll have a lot more leeway of what you’re talking about. Sometimes the cliche “be yourself” works In that case. Otherwise they’ll try to cut the conversation off if not just ignore you. Sad but true, just the way our society works. It’s a numbers game, the more tries the more likely you’ll find someone attracted to you unless your approach is weird.
There’s no better way way of talking to women.. it’s all about how you look to them.. any approach works with women if they find u attractive. There no magic word or better approach..it’s all about looks
Staged, both interactions... watch carefully and you will get it.
if you dont talk to them, you cant go wrong
When she sees something in you and/or she can check some of her „boxes“ you make her laugh no matter what you do and she will appreciate your initiative. If not you are in for a slap in your face…
Alexander, you're turning simple addition into algebra in the second scenario.
1) The man is conventionally average, he is not considered higher than a 5 to the majority of women you would find out in public.
2) The cameraman is right in their face. The girls know they are being filmed and this automatically puts them in self-preservation mode. "I can't do anything too outrageous or else the world will make a judgement call on me." If the cameraman was hidden, as he should have been, the rejection by the girls would have been far more abrupt and direct. The response shown is an act, the natural response would have been seen if the cameraman had done his job right. You can even see the Asian girl look up at the camera awkwardly at the end. They know what is going on and face-saving mode activates immediately.
The first interaction was decent...and absolutely right about the second. I'd first ask about where the flea market is which is disarming. Let them talk, then maybe ask them if theyve been there before and if it's any good. If not are there any other places. You can lead from there if you life one.
Aahhh. So I messaged this girl. I told liked her sense of humor (honest) and asked her to get on my preferred social media platform. I wasn't interested in dating her. She rejected me. I said I wasn't interested. She said 'I wasn't born yesterday'. I was shocked. How naive of me.
The part you said i wasnt interested got you prob. To me that feels like some form of anger, or trying to be masculine. Or whatever, not tryna to attack you
You can't say you aren't interested in dating her, its trying to openly grab too much control when women demand the control over that.
Staged. No way a woman responds like this. She would keep walking and speed up, say something like “have a nice day”.
@Brandon Letzco Small dog - or even a small child!
Nope. I've done many approaches myself and this one looked very real. You can see she was fully in the moment. When you are honest and say what you are about, girls will pretty much always stop and talk to you. Out of the maybe 300 approaches (roughly) that I have done, I can only remember 2 girls that did not stop and/or ignored me
Maybe there's something you're doing wrong bro because it's definitely possible to get a warm convo. And just like dude above me said, a lot of these warm convos don't really go anywhere but it was a very plesant and stimulating chat
@@simontmn Evan a ferrett.
Nah, there are women who are polite and will stop and respond.
In regards to the second approach, saying "I hate to interrupt what looks like a productive picnic." It comes off as pretty rude to me. Not everything you do in life has to be "productive" or work related. There's nothing wrong with spending your free time with friends and family. The "flea market" comment was also unnecessary. Is he trying to imply that the girls would know where a flea market is because he thinks they look poor and can only afford second-hand clothes? Maybe this comment was an attempt at "negging".
Agree completley. Neither joke was funny and came off as sarcastic and judgemental. The whole interaction was cringy and awkward.
It kind of gives off an impression of a guy who is done with investing in the act and is focused on subtly venting his frustrations and indifference out during it instead. Wouldn't be surprised if he stopped doing these in the near-future, and I've never even watched him before.
It's like watching David Attenborough in a nature show.
Approaching 4 is a whole different dynamic
Good for her for being a stand up woman and being nice and kind but also shutting it down because she was in a relationship.
Actually carrying a bag helps building impression of random situation lol
The guy is bald, old, fat and not a Chad. These things are what's wrong about his approach😳
but he's tall... and he's got a camera guy following him around. At least a few women's interest would be piqued
Continuing to talk to her like that, AFTER she said she has a boyfriend, was not the best thing to do
el segundo encuentro no lo encuentro como un error o lo que sea, creo que los grupos de por si con complicados, por mas que le caigas bien a la mayoria desde un principio (bastante dificil) una sola puede arruinarte todo, otra cuestion capaz el chiste es un poco de mas, pero tampoco es algo como para tenerlo en mente, puede que haya sido lo que se le ocurrio en el momento, pero vuelvo a lo mismo no se puede ver como algo bueno o malo, es simplemente una interaccion y tratar de caerle bien a todo el mundo: Eso SI es un error, con la gente en general algunos te caen bien otros te caen mal, preguntarse sobre ello simplemente no tiene sentido. En esto estoy bastante en desacuerdo con Alexander, fluir como el agua, si te responde bien, y si no tambien, pero nunca dejar de relacionarse y tener cuidado de por si es el primer paso para dejar de relacionarse.
Alex, you’re usually pretty good but you completely misread most of this, esp. why he was saying the “I hope I’m not interrupting this productive ___”
He’s playfully disarming an objection before it arises. It wasn’t meant to be a joke. I’ve watched his products and he says this to remove a frame groups of women have before you approach them when those women respond to your intro with - “Oh, sorry, we’re actually just busy hanging/shopping/talking with each other”.
Most of the time, these women aren’t really doing anything important or life-changing with their friends, they’re bored or they’re just shopping. You are usually a welcome distraction to whatever they are doing - so it removes this silly comeback women’s friends will give you, especially when they realise you are interested in their friend and they’re jealous of her.
The problem here is that he should have doubled down after and continued to be bold by pausing, allowing them to respond and then said he had noticed their friend and wanted to come over to talk to her.
Rather than being reactive: backpedalling and asking for directions (to buy himself time to recover) and then panicing after that - it was weak and not exciting or seductive at all.
You should also NEVER be apologetic when approaching women - that’s what beggars, charity people and people trying to sell you something do.
Always approach women you’re interested in with your full confidence and masculinity - women like confident & masculine men that are interested in them and can move things forward skilllfully.
I agree but I still don't know how you would escalate after the opener, or even what would be a good opener because I still don't think his was optimal. Four girls sitting down having a picnic in a closed position, that's difficult to work with.
@@soulextinguisher You didn’t read my whole comment above, it’s an easy transition. Most attractive women are out with the friends, so approaching them while with friends is necessary generally.
How is a girl “unsafe” literally in an open park in broad daylight?
Exactly. I think a lot of this "safe" talk is nonsense.
The worst thing he could have done is to walk up onto a group of women already engaged in one another...and expect they will somehow embrace you (unless you are gorgeous and famous). He's also looming over them; not very inviting.
chad say hi, is very effective.
Talking to a group requires a group with 1 less person to have the girls a little more invested in not being the 1 left out.
In the second interaction he clearly wasn’t hitting on the group. They were walking to find attractive chicks and asking on the way
Very helpful. Thanks!
7:29 Hope I never tell you a bad joke Alexander...🤣🤣🤣
You me both
You look very good Alexander Grace
very detailed analysis in behaviour and social interaction. I liked these hints on what's happening in the minds of the participants. 👍
approach them in the same way you are trying to tame a wild cat.
Vadim is a first class Pua guru. His yt channel is called honest signals and has several pua courses. He knows his stuff.
you should do more of these analyses, they're very entertaining
10:47 "You guys not have phones?"
Yes 2 is bad. In my view he approached a group... not a good idea for a lot of reasons But . if he said. " Sorry to interrupt but I am kinda lost.. I'm looking for the whatever.. " but Standing when they are sitting... particularly when he is tall... bad idea ...maybe if he stood back a few feet and kneeled... if he had some papers with him and he "accidentally" dropped them .. that would have helped. Women like tall guys but a tall guy has to be careful about his size when first meeting women.
Right: Chad
Wrong: The Rest
he should have walked by and make a turn back and the interupt...and then interupt again befor her response....way better
I'm not sure Alex would be the best person to follow for tips on how to pick up a girl in the park.
Why not?
WHY NOT?
Asked a co-worker for her number before she quit and was very nervous. Got the number but she ghosted me. Sigh
2 He sounds like he is aby to ask them all to pipe down. Those tones I recall hearing as a kid playing in my neighborhood and someone come out of the house asking us to keep it down