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Hearthstone: Trump Basic Teachings - 01 - Board Control (Mage)
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- čas přidán 15. 11. 2014
- Board control refers to the situation where a player has dominance over the game board. Generally, this refers to situations where one player has one or more minions on the board, whereas their opponent has none. Maintaining board control is extremely important, as it allows players to dictate minion combat and thus get favorable trades.
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Just get a boar, you will have boar control in no time.
Noo - my past mistakes are revealed! Does it not show the actual thumbnail to you? (i.ytimg.com/vi/DVNvpeQGir4/maxresdefault.jpg)
Just pretend you never saw the boar one *whistle*
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Why wait? Stonetusk boar = Instant boar control
you disgust me
(Feels ashamed) Sorry Teacher...
no get a murloc raider and you will have murloc raider control in no time
These beginner friendly videos are great but I would like to see an 'Advanced Class', showing more difficult situations (maybe even analysing submitted match videos?) i.e. when to stop board controlling when you know your opponent has you 'on a clock' etc but I suppose those rely too much on situational decision making and can't ever really be taught as fundamentals due to how much information you need to process to reach the most correct conclusion. It would be nice to be proven wrong about that, though.
You have to learn to walk before you can run. Give it time Trump will get there.
i aggree. me being a player since beta i know how to play the game and i have a fair amount of cards. there are just some tricky situations that people like trump could get out of but i dont know how. also i make a lot of missplays while playing.
It's more about whether there's ever a 'right move' in situations like that. Like, I'm playing Priest I've 12 health left, Mage opponent has 2 cards left. Only the opponent's Loot Hoarder is on board. With my 10 mana, I Cabal his Loot Hoarder and play an Injured Blade master and Circle of Healing. Now, say the Mage hasn't played any fireballs: he might have lethal in his hand but should I really heal for 2 rather than develop the board? But most importantly, would it be possible to make a video that could really teach you a 'right move' in situations like that, with every little piece of information required accounted for and if so, would it be too specific to relate to other problems that you might face in other games? I think it's an interesting question.
I'm sure he'll go over that. Hell, blizzard should be paying him to make these tutorial videos.
While I like the idea of an "advanced class" I feel like he already does that with his road to legend videos. What better teaching medium than watching the teacher himself learn the best plays in the current meta. You get to see his deck choice process, his predictions to what cards are held, and when and how to make those tough game deciding calls that so often come up in these games where everything rides on a single mistake
I once had a draft where I got 7 fireballs. I usually board controlled with them, but against this one Hunter I shamelessly fire balled him 5 times in a row.
Was a good day.
That's why people hate mages. Also why people love arena. I'm glad you picked all those fireballs; have a cookie.
Mini Goat I thought people hate mages because Flamestrike is a common and usually unavoidable in arena.
Morgan Wood And that too, thanks for pointing that out.
Morgan Wood
People hate Mages because all their best cards are common.
Zakuzelo Isn't it the same for a lot of the other classes as well? Truesilver and Hammers, Firey War Axe/Death's Bite, Hex...Swipes.
It's nice that you started theese series. And the IDraft. What can I say? Good job and keep it up. Quite unlucky for me that I had to learn from you how to play without theese vids. But that was a long time ago. And now I am a pro. Thanks to you. And that's why you are my favourite HS player. Value be with you!
Well said, sir.
"And now I am pro..." XDD
You make money off of hearthstone? That's what a pro does.
stev019 Maybe he do... Streaming for those six people who watches him in the weekend.
stev019 I think he said that he's a pro in the figurative sense.
Thank you so much for these "guides", they really helped me a lot. Today I've been unable to get out of rank 18, I was dancing back and foward between 20 and 18, I almost become hollow. I took some time to watch your videos, focused and got to 15 in no-time.
add me m8 Arlostopolis #1450
I'm ready to learn. Also, I'm a free 1/1, value.
So is wisp. .-.
LoLmanX wisp isn't free, it costs a card slot in your deck.
Jacob Gosper I know that, but I'm referring to the mana cost. (Not that I like wisp)
LoLmanX I'm fond of the wisp, it's like my Kuriboh, it makes cute noises and all. I know it's a terrible card though.
Gonzalo Ayala Ibarre Although I remember Wisps being able to explode...
I hope trump will do an advanced video series where he teaches concepts like avoiding overcommitting to the board, reading your opponents hand, bluffing, estimating probabilities and keeping track of your opponents removal and proportioning your threats appropriately.
These videos are great. I love seeing the logic behind the different styles of decks. Board control is my preferred style of choice(Because I watch so much Trump), so I am glad to see this was the first one to be released.
A lot of your opponents cards keep coming over onto your side and attacking your peeps. You should build a giant wall to keep them out.
lmfao dat unnoticed joke deserves top comment xD
It was most assuredly noticed. Everyone understood it I'm sure.
I see what you did there.
it's called "boarder control"
brevelmonkey lol
This was very helpful. I just started Hearthstone today and I admit I lost my first game making this noob mistake. I will watch the rest of this series. Keep up the good work!
thank you trump for making these series, Ive had huge issues playing with no longer winning a single game. sometimes you need to sit back and refresh myself.
I just started playing this game and was losing a lot. But when I watched this video and started thinking in terms of board control I began winning. Genius advice.
Probably the best Hearthstone tutorial ever made, preventing beginners to be overwhelmed by the huge variety of cards and strategies. I applaude you Sir!
trump's stream and channel is only gonna get bigger if he keeps up these value lesson for the newbies. I know I started watching him because hes videos are educational
This guide has helped me a lot, before I couldn't beat my friends in Hearthstone, but now when I play the first two people surrendered and the next two I beat. Thanks man.
I thank you, Trump. For making this series, I could finally not be worried of making a failing deck because it requires Legendaries and Epics. Make this series ASAP
Can't believe how much this helped me. Thanks man
I like how Trump's stick at the end is just 3 markers stuck together. That's pretty cute
I really appreciate these teaching videos you put out for HS. You're very good at explaining these concepts. i have learned things that never really occurred to me to think about while playing but now i can play with these lessons in mind. I'm pretty new to card games so i feel more confident in my gameplay now. Thank you Trump!
I just want to thank you so much. Yesterday was my second day playing ranked, I played about 15 games, lost 12, and two people quit before I was clearly winning. I was so tilted I typed "I fucking suck at heathstone" into google, and got lead to "Trump" through reddit. You helped me so much, controlling their cards is so key. I reset my deck to be like the default mage, threw in some of my favorites, and won 5 out 6 games, and won some really hard. Thanks much again, I was about to quit this game out of rage. This video alone genuinely changed my skill signifacntly. (I got so many "well played" and "amazing" today, I didn't even know people could say that haha).
I like this video series a lot. It functions as a very good teaching resource for new players. This is the kind of stuff you could show to a friend who asks you about getting started in Hearthstone and showing these videos to them would set him/her up quite effectively.
This series is good for beginners who have no clue about the concept in hearthstone so I am happy u created th is trump
Great idea for a video. I spend quite some time looking for someone who teaches hearthstone strategy, but only found lets play videos. Good job!!
You're the best HS streamer out there, keep it up.
We love your hard work !
For the next three three games in a row, after I watched this video, my opponents conceded. This could be a coincidence, but I've never had a player concede a game before. Thanks.
I could watch this for ages...
Strategy candy to my mind.
Just started playing HS. thank you so much for these tutorials. They are invaluable to the noob.
Thank you Trump. Your teachings have greatly improved my game play! You have made this game soooo much more fun!
Even two years later.. still helpful! Thanks Trump!
Thank you Trump for showing us this deck I was struggling with Naxxramas but with this deck I managed to beat the whole thing, thank you.
I agree with Chris Wilson. I learned mostly how to play by watching you, Amaz, Kolento, and Kripp, but when I found these I showed them to my friends who are new to HS and these videos have helped them a lot. It would be really cool if you wouldn't mind doing some advanced player guides for people who want to take the game even farther.
YES! Let's get these series going! Thanks Trump!
Started hearthstone today and i played my first ranked match after watching this video. I been focusing to much on hiting the face. I played the match and had full bord controll the whole game. My enemy gave up at 4hp vs 27hp. Thx and awesome video. I will watch the rest in this series to. Thanks
Wish there was a video series like this when I first started playing. So much avoidable frustration. Keep up the good work Trump.
I only watch until mana efficiency and manage to raise my win by 80%. I will continue my padawan lesson until the end. Thanks trump! Love your guide.
Thanks soon much!!! I only started this game about a week ago and I was hooked right away. I could not win a match though, I though people had better decks than me. But after watching this video I've went to losing ever one to winning!! So thanks and your so right, board control is everything in this game not health. So simple but effective. Thanks aging!
Very nice videos!
I can tell that this is not only for beginners. Its a good reminder for those who have played the game for a while to.
Wow, Hearthstone and Trump both have evolved soo much and I feel as if I have gone back in time watching this video ;3
Great Video Trump! Thanks for making an in-depth series on how to get better in Hearthstone. I know it will help a lot of players rise through ranks quicker!
I remember this in the stream, trump faced a complete zoo deck and lost, I see he decided to cut that one out XDD
Probably because he failed the intro 6 times xD the match against the zoo dude was actually quite close even though his deck was vastly superior
I dont see why, the zoo deck does nothing but emphasize his point even more, zoo decks = board control.
Cloud Strife lol… you troll.
Cloud Strife Implying zoo doesn't give a fuck about board control and just spams minions and hit face
MrFreakman0 LOL if you do that as zoo you're going to lose pretty hard.
Nice and friendly guide for those who are starting to play the game. Goob job Professor Trump.
Just started playing and after a two day lose streak I looked up your video.
Holy shit, just from what I've learned here I'm doing WAYYYYY better. Thanks!
This is amazing. I'm a new player (ranked 20) and after viewing this video my game has improved 10 times.
Dat flawless editing. Hiding the razorfen damage counter when the opponent plays a card and game shows the enlarge.
Thanks, this is the first time I read/watch a guide. I have no legendaries and epics. And I thought I would never break Rank 20 because the people there start to have nothing else but legendaries and epics. And after watching this guide my Mage can break into Rank 16 now.
Finally found someone who can properly explain this game. I've been playing for a while but picking up some important tips now ! Btw found the video because I was playing 'trump f2p decks' hehe.
this is probably the best deck in the trump teaching series! I was stuck at rank 21 and now im at 19 with 2 stars. This deck is amazing!
+Misha Sekatchev But... isn't 19 better than 20? Unless you are using sarcasm... which is pretty hard to detect in that message. Maybe you want to add in words like so (this deck is SO amazing)... if you are being sarcastic
Celine Yang oh oops i made a typo im really sorry i meant i was stuck at rank 21 and now im at 19 with 2 stars. Ill change that oops.
Best guide I've seen so far
Very good series. Been playing a couple of months but love to see you giving tips to players. Good stuff bro!
Wow dude...you've changed the way I look at this game! Great guide! Looking forward to your other content. Subbed.
This was really interesting and explains why I've been losing. Thanks! You got another subscriber!
Really good and informative video, Trump. Keep it up, I've been playing Hearthstone for a while and I've learned a lot about how to play by watching you. What can I say? I learn from the best =P
2:55 Wondering why you didn't explain why you played your Raptor, instead of pinging the 0/1 (like some might be tempted to do)? It has a lot to do with the topic, "board control", but you didn't really mention why having another minion out, is more important than clearing the 0/1.
Might seem like a basic tip, but I assumed that's what this series was for. Either way, this is a great idea, for newer or more experienced players. Appreciate your work, Trumpo!
I think this would be addressed in his next video, as it's called "mana efficiency"
Dissentient Actually both moves are mana efficient. But it depends on the situation whether to clear it or not. If the opponent is playing a zoo deck he might have an abusive sergeant to force a trade with your acidic swamp ooze.
James Tan
Using your hero power is not mana efficient.
Dissentient I think you're confused on what "mana efficient" means. Either play is mana efficient, since it is using all of the mana he has. The issue is, playing the raptor gives him more, "board control", which is why I was confused that he didn't explain any of this.
I feel many newer players might have pinged there just to remove the 0/1,
***** ....
Board control would include placing more minions out to thus, "control the board", with them. He mentioned that in the video further after, which is great. But he didn't really include anything on that specific play, which I feel newer and even more experienced players struggle to decide what to do in.
Pinging a minion does not give you more board control over actually playing another minion to work with on the board.
This is what I was trying to get at, what you've said isn't true at all. Pinging = less board control. And sure you could say playing more minions = tempo, but the video is called, "Board Control" and I just figured that move deserved a more in depth explanation.
CANNOT thank you enough. I started playing about a month ago and hadn't won a single game. Watched this video and went from 50 to 33 in one night, only lost 1 game out of what, 20? Hahaha thank you!!
My only loss was to a druid using only taunts and armour/claw attacks. Might have been able to play better to win but oh well
Even after playing Hearthstone for many hours, this was extremely helpful.
an important thing to note (though im a new player too) is that because you had board control, that huge minion he played at the very end (assuming you didnt have leathal) could have easily been taken out by cards whose value you had already gotten return on in triplicate, or by clearing spells that might cost some mana, but that your board presence gives you the freedom to play
I'm a mage player, and this helped me have a better strategy, and control over my games. I still lose a few from bad hands, to being over powered, but i win a lot more now! and even reached a rank I haven't yet reached before! Thanks for this vid, and look forward to the others you will be making c:
Such a good deck, I've just started playing and been running round like a headless chicken losing most games. This tutorial and deck really helped me out, I can finally enjoy the game.
I kid you not. I found the build for this deck online and have played over half a dozen games with it online. Didnt win a single game. I watched this video and thought about board control...immediately won...used my slaves to bring the op down to 12 and fire balled him twice. You are amazing.
As a newbie i thank you for the great upload.
ive only watched this one video and my winrate has increased exponentially
Thanks trump
ah so I was completely going the opposite direction
same
Trump, please continue to do tutorial videos like this. I have waited for so long for them =P
Great video Trump! This will really help new player learn how to play the game well.
That was brilliant. And answered the question I was looking for and then some. Many, many some.
Thank you for this series, I am looking forward to more.
After this vid I`ve won like 7 games in a row with a warlock. the concept of board control is pure gold
Love the series concept. I consider myself pretty decent, having ranked highly in constructed (before giving it up almost entirely because I can't be assed with grinding the final few ranks) and getting my fair share of 12-x wins in arena, but even so, I consider Trump a very good value-oriented player, and it's always nice to hear him clearly state his thoughts on certain lines and board states.
Was also interesting to see just how much damage a mistake can ultimately cause. I mean, you know mistakes can be backbreaking, and Trump almost certainly would have won even without the mistake, but to actually see it cause 10 damage was amazing.
Gurubashi berserker takes a fireball from the mage to buff. Awesome tip!! Thanks for your hard work :-)
Your videos are amazing. I really learned a lot and now i love hearthstone even more. Please keep doing this kind of videos.....if you don't then my magic will tear you apart!!
Thank you for the board control tips, I've tried to use em and just won 3 in a row using normal unranked play. Cheers.
I feel like applying this will make me a huge amount better at the game.
Thank you so much for this video. Usually I am very very bad at collectible card games but still wanted to try out Hearthstone because it looked good. Thanks to you I am starting to get a basic understanding of the strategy and was even able to win a few matches against real opponents. Haha, makes me feel pretty good. ^___^
if you still care look up "extra play hearthstone". there not like other hearthstone videos and will teach you alot, even if you've never played the game or don't know any cards.
I love the markers stuck together
hey dude, i just found your channel and i love it. keep it up!
I don't know if it will be included into the Mana Efficiency video, but the concept of Tempo I find quite irritating and I'd love a detailed explanation on that with some examples : )
Probably in the rogue video I'd assume.
tempo is a thing warlock is really good at, and druid, cards like soulfire and doomguard and innervate, giving up cards to gain more power quickly
Tempo is mostly to do with taking board control back at all costs, regardless of any inefficient trades playing the cards might make.
For instance a Leper Gnome on turn 1 vs a mage would be considered a tempo play because the mage can easily kill that card at the expense of not developing their own board presence.
If the mage does spend their turn 2 fireblasting the leper gnome, they give up the "initiative" in exchange for card advantage.
Having the initiative means you dictate the board, you command the next minion to send into the fight and your opponent is forced to either have a good answer or risk losing tempo.
Having stronger board presence enables you to take the initiative in future for things like better minion trading.
Thus you have the tempo advantage.
Doomguard is another good example, (apart from the dream scenario of playing the doomguard with no cards in hand) you're usually sacrificing card advantage for board control.
A 5/7 with charge on turn 5 is really really strong but the card loss means it's usually not going to gain you card advantage in the short term but it will set up a good position to continue the offensive.
The idea is that having the strong board presence will make up for the short term card disadvantage by either setting up better trades in future or killing your opponent quicker.
Naturally you'd want to get card and tempo advantage at the same time but in Hearthstone there's often branching decision trees on whether you want to play for card advantage or tempo, rarely both.
A lot of which you should play for comes down to individual plays and how your deck is constructed and what your deck wants to do in order to win.
Good explanations, and I know roughly what it is, but specifically in Arena there are often choices like playing Gnomish Adventurer or Yeti turn 4 on an empty board. Trump would usually play the Adventurer, though due to it's stats it's significant lower in tempo expended for a possible card advantage. That play for example falls weak to an opponents yeti or tiger, dependent on the turn, as well as many removals, which easily flip the tempo and initiative.
Or just situations when having the option of playing one higher mana or more lower mana cards.
That's where my game seems too fall apart and I think Trump could've done a superior play, yet obviously he's the one who wins more often...
FoldAPieceOfWater That specific decision would be made based on his draft and what he thinks of his opponent's draft. If you have a very strong late game draft and you feel your opponent's deck will have a weaker late game, it is beneficial to draw cards and play your weaker minions to try and bait out some of your opponents answers first.
Just used this deck twice and won both times. With BOARD CONTROL! Ty ;)
Thanks this was really effective and i instantly saw far greater plays
I got here searching for Donald Trump.
Lol
Who needs a wall when you have board control?
+Christ vargas Ahaha xD
Border control**
Super useful! My brother recommended this video to me and he said he learnt a lot from you. Now I understand why my bro was sighing when I saved up my fireballs to nuke an opponent from 12 health xD
Now after this video I managed to board control and win or tie more games even though they have legendary cards and I don't xD
Nice vid, thanks
Pretty cool of you to take time out your day to help people out.
I have watched your progression as a player since you first started streaming on twitch. you have come such a long way man, congratz. have you ever considered an apprentice, a young trump persay?
anyways, keep it up man.
People can say a lot about you Trump. But you do put a lot of work in what you are doing and you make great content ;)
I love these guide videos, even though i ve been playing hearthstone since early March. good job Trump
Well done Jens, nice animations!
It's fun coming back to watch these again (I was just talking about how these are the 'bare minimum' skill level for playing Hearthstone, so thought I'd refresh myself) - and wowee was that opponent bad. I honestly thing the innkeeper would've been better. I know this is rank 22 at a time when lots of players had little experience and skill - and the mistakes made for good teaching points - but wow, besides the ones that were mentioned, who would ever think that using Wild Growth on 8 mana is a good idea? Quite literally the only time it's worth it is if you're very likely going to make a 10 mana play on the turn after (ie. Wild Growth on 8 because you need to Deathwing on 10 in order to survive). Doing it on 8 for any other reason is just about burning the card; you're literally spending 2 extra mana to get an Innervate on your next turn (and losing the option to cycle the card), so I hope that Innervate was damn worth it!
These are some seriously counter intuitive moves. In hindsight though they logically make a lot of sense. Thx
Hearthstone should hire this guy for his tutorials!!!
Trump Keep up the great work! Showing new players how play and whats good to play with. I would say it would keep new players playing!!!
Props for the Ronald Jenkees outtro music.
dude, you have my biggest thanks
I litteraly lost every game with ai and getting frustated until i see your vid and won in an instant
seriously thnks dude and keep it up
p.s. : I won 3 times in a row
Legit this is helping me out so much!!! I am not a new new player and I have some better cards and a better deck but was playing badly. I had a really good deck I just wasn't utilizing it or executing my moves properly. Thanks Trump!!
Thanks for your insights! Your videos really helped me in the Hearthstone ranked games. Keep those Mage decks coming please! :)
so is there a way to regain board control if you lost it? Maybe my oponent watched your videos too :D
+ZhirniToni That's why Flamestrike is in the deck. There are other board-clearing spells and effects, as well as various forms of hard removal to deal with tough minions. Basically, you just try to continue making efficient trades and eventually you might catch up or overtake your opponent. If you don't have a good answer in-hand, you might try to draw into it using whatever card draw effects you have available.
The more advanced side to board control is knowing what plays your opponent likely has available to him, which comes with knowledge of the classes, cards, and meta-game -- what cards/decks are popular... in addition to paying attention to what cards your opponent has played, how many cards he has in his hand, and how long he has held specific cards (which can let you get a read on what the cards might be). Knowing what plays your opponent likely has available lets you deny him more efficient trades, and play cards that will give you maximum value.
Quinstol Thx, that's good to know :)
I'm a noob but I figured that a good thing to do is to atleast learn the most common trap cards and best class specific spells since it's much easier than trying to learn every card in the game.
An easy example is to always anticipate Freeze/Fire trap in Hunter, That minion block trap in paladin, the Counter Spell, Mirror entity in mage or Iceblock in Freeze mage. Aswell as common spells like Polymorph, Animal Companion, Rock Biter Weapon etc. etc.
agreed
thats such a perfect teaching show! cant wait for the other parts, thank you trump :)
the way he said "ah I got the one mana and I wanna do it" just cracks me up
olloololololol XD
thank you for this guide im a begginer from hearthstone i dont know what cards to use etc but i saw this video for beginners like me and it helped so much!
It's been two years. Time to update these guides.
Great job Trump! I'm going to link these to my gf who is now starting out in HS. I think you're a great teacher. I should let her get all chars to lvl 10 first though.