The result of PSR and trying to use one damn engine to move an already overloaded train! The train’s weight was actually dragging him backwards, even though the engine was trying to go forward. Over-tonnaged and too little horsepower.
Many years ago, I used to work for CN Telecommunications and in the mid 70s, frequently rode freights in Northern Ontario. IIRC, they typically had 4 units on those trains.
Executives think it saves them money to use less locomotives, when in fact, the amount of energy and fuel used is the same, and there is less wear if locomotives are not overstrained.
Don't get the logic of making a train so heavy that the available power is having to work at its absolute limit just to try to move it, nevermind haul it. Railroad management is generally pretty stupid, and the bigger the company, the worse the decisions seem to get... Cool action to watch, though. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome catch! That is endlessly fascinating to me to see that much power in action. I love watching the wheels at the rails with the sand and the small slips. Amazing sounds too. Now we just need to get a goat out there to eat the weeds. 😆
You can see the strain in the wheels as the thing catches traction. That is nuts to think of the forces being generated at the track surface. The physics behind moving that much weight on so little.....and people wonder why track crossings are no joke even with slow moving trains.......
@@V0latyleUSMC No I haven't... I was a chef my whole career, and I still don't understand why they wouldn't provide the appropriate amount of power, it would seem to me that that would be more efficient than having a locomotive that can't gain traction because it's underpowered to pull the weight of the train and then they lose time for have to bring out additional power because they didn't do it right the first time.
@sanddabz5635 Railroads cut cost EVERYWHERE they can. PSR is even worse at this, they will put the least amount power possible as long as the "math" says it will work.
@@seymoarsalvage Paper pushers and numbers counters..... They get what they deserve then, a stalled underpowered train. I would only hope that the individual who made that call knows that.
Of course, they could have doubled the train to next siding, but then maybe the computers aren’t programmed for that. Maybe too simple a move or next siding too far away?
Because he was actually throttling to move FORWARD, thus engaging the front sanders. The weight of the train was actually pulling him backwards, hence why the wheels appeared to lock up and start sliding backwards a few times.
The result of PSR and trying to use one damn engine to move an already overloaded train! The train’s weight was actually dragging him backwards, even though the engine was trying to go forward. Over-tonnaged and too little horsepower.
Many years ago, I used to work for CN Telecommunications and in the mid 70s, frequently rode freights in Northern Ontario. IIRC, they typically had 4 units on those trains.
Executives think it saves them money to use less locomotives, when in fact, the amount of energy and fuel used is the same, and there is less wear if locomotives are not overstrained.
I take it none of you have work in T&E service?
Don't get the logic of making a train so heavy that the available power is having to work at its absolute limit just to try to move it, nevermind haul it. Railroad management is generally pretty stupid, and the bigger the company, the worse the decisions seem to get...
Cool action to watch, though. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome catch! That is endlessly fascinating to me to see that much power in action. I love watching the wheels at the rails with the sand and the small slips. Amazing sounds too. Now we just need to get a goat out there to eat the weeds. 😆
That's some great precision railroading right there...
You can see the strain in the wheels as the thing catches traction. That is nuts to think of the forces being generated at the track surface. The physics behind moving that much weight on so little.....and people wonder why track crossings are no joke even with slow moving trains.......
These are the same SD-70m's that run on the B&LE, from Conneaut, Oh to Bessemer, Pa. right next to our house. Awsome machines!
M's or ACe's?
@@kleetus92This is an SD70M-2.
May be it needs the UP 844 steam power to come up behind it and give it a push
He need some pushers on the end to push him forward
Just to show how powerful these engines can be
Wheels are powered by electric motors, the motor is the one producing the torque not the diesel engine
Clean sound, perfect video.
Not actually that much wheel slip going on here , just a locomotive with a heavy load trying to get moving on a gradient
Another amazing video! Hope you and your family had a fantastic Thanksgiving! I must say, your content always pays off! Keep up your awesome work :)
Thanks and I hope your holiday weekend was great as well
No problem and thanks, it was :)
Your video was so engaging! Would it be alright if I include a snippet on my channel? I promise to credit you prominently.
@Sergey322 Absolutely! Feel free to use some footage! Sorry for the delayed response.
thanks!@@railfan5254
Content farm
Gee, why are these crews emptying the sand reserviour on every run?
Slack slinky😂
Is 8819 a DPU or is he supposed to be the sole prime mover? Is a good way to trash a unit.
Ridiculous.
I don't understand why they wouldn't utilize the appropriate amount of power to begin with, meaning more than one locomotive.
I see you've never worked for a railroad
@@V0latyleUSMC
No I haven't... I was a chef my whole career, and I still don't understand why they wouldn't provide the appropriate amount of power, it would seem to me that that would be more efficient than having a locomotive that can't gain traction because it's underpowered to pull the weight of the train and then they lose time for have to bring out additional power because they didn't do it right the first time.
@sanddabz5635 Railroads cut cost EVERYWHERE they can. PSR is even worse at this, they will put the least amount power possible as long as the "math" says it will work.
@@seymoarsalvage
Paper pushers and numbers counters..... They get what they deserve then, a stalled underpowered train. I would only hope that the individual who made that call knows that.
4300 dc power wasn’t enough
Muito peso , alem da capacidade de tração da Locomotiva
Add another M-2
They need to grease the rails.
*Jedna to za mało taki zestaw to 4 lokomotywy minimum* 😎😁
Bit of independent would stop it shedding the load like that
Take another look, the brake pistons are out, but some long travel on L2.
Looks like the engineer was trying that. And I agree , that L2 brake piston was sticking way out.
Super. 💙 T.E.N.
Of course, they could have doubled the train to next siding, but then maybe the computers aren’t programmed for that. Maybe too simple a move or next siding too far away?
WTH. Why wasting sand behind the wheel? It should be pourred ahead of the wheel.
Because he was actually throttling to move FORWARD, thus engaging the front sanders. The weight of the train was actually pulling him backwards, hence why the wheels appeared to lock up and start sliding backwards a few times.
I hope your skill with camera steadiness and smooth zooming has improved over the last year.