Samsung Plasma Vs QLED | How Does It Compare In 2023
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- Samsung Plasma Vs QLED | How Does It Compare In 2023
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Samsung PN50C450B1D VS Samsung Q60C QLED
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What's your thoughts about newer TVs VS older models?
The older models were better made.
That thing was a tank
I cant relate to any of your Sammy Plasma model on my Panasonic Viera. No banding, and fluent motion on that one. And they are 1080p
It was a goofy video, I bought it for $60 bucks and gave it to my cousin for his garage. But now I know there’s some hard core plasma lovers out there and no way I would start buying them to make more videos. Lol
How can the plasma be so good
I have two large plasmas (LGs) - and yeah, they are built to last - and the picture quality still looks great and I can guarantee you they'll outlast the junk being manufactured today. Bit heavy, maybe not nearly as thin - but I like the years I've gotten out of these AND they're still going strong - one after abut 8 years. Paid $100 each USED. Money VERY well spent! Good review!
I just bought a 50inch plasma for $75. original retail was $1300. LG.
Extremely heavy. I injured myself moving it.
I bought mine - the exact model in the video brand new in 2010 for just under 1000. Watching it right now. I'm shocked how well it compares to the new tvs
Funny, they used to say that about plasma tvs when they came out, that CRTs will outlast them and that plasma tvs are junk...
what are u thtought son OLED
@@randomrazr OLED is only good for high frame rate content. The only real strong point of OLEDs are the perfect black levels.
I still have a Fugitsu plasma vision W 50in that works perfectly it’s just gorgeous. I believe it was one of the first plasma TV’s ever made. TV cost something like $10k when it was new. I got a Q80B 85in a few months ago and it is just a gorgeous powerhouse of a TV I love watching it it’s good at everything and gets beautifull bright. I’ve had 3 Samsung LEDs over the years and have had just great luck with them. I still have a 55in Samsung led from 2010 one of the first models ever made it’s not even a smart tv. Still using it almost daily 13 years later kids play games and watch movies on it and it still looks great and gets really bright. The plasma days were such an exciting time for TV’s I’ve had a few plasma’s come and go but the fugitsu is a straight relic a real gem
I had a mid-range (or lower?) Panasonic S60 plasma that I adored. It had some unfortunate rainbow artifacting when I turned my head or blinked rapidly, but I mostly got used to it. The motion clarity was great though, and was as close to a CRT as I’ve seen. Unfortunately I don’t have it anymore. I’m sure it gets killed by OLED with contrast but I haven’t seen a TV get as good motion, especially with scrolling images/content.
I've basically come to a point that I don't care about new tech. The stuff from 5-10 years ago has become so cheap, high quality and abbundant, that you are a fool to spend premium on the new stuff.
For example I got a 50" plasma with no burn-in for 75 bucks, a 2009 MacMini for 25 bucks, and a top of the line Onkyo AV receiver 7x200W for 100 bucks. Blu Rays at goodwill are like 1-2 bucks. A 2015 MacBook Pro is 250 bucks. Every item functions perfectly fine today, and combined they give a really nice experience. The dude I bought the plasma from was really impressed by the plasma he was selling: he used it 10 year without proper setup and looked at a dull image all those years. I tweaked the contrast, enabled full colour gamut, and popped in Lego Batman, and he was seriously stunned. Same with clothes. I get everything at thrift stores nowadays. There is enough used stuff for everybody and Red sea terror should deliver 0 harm to world economy. We live in abbundance of everything. Now lets put us what we already have to good use, and stop making more new crap quality junk.
Old tech is gold tech.. You are right sir. I got an old Panasonic LCD TV for 50 Euros.. And it can do passive 3d.. 😀
@@TheRealJohnHooper The kid bought a relative new iPhone. They way I see him struggle with the camera app.... My Lumia 950 from 2015 just works. Manual control, very well implemented. On iOS not so much, you have to go down the rabbit hole of the App Store, and spend on douchy In-app purchases, yet nothing works as smooth as the Lumia Camera app from 9 years ago.
I want to see a 4K plasma with hdmi 2.1 and a modern processor with modern software, it would be interesting to see how it performs vs QLED and even OLED.
We can all dream
4k Plasma was simply not comercially viable and nothings changed in that regard.
The pixels could only be made so small which is why I don't think there was ever a 32" 1080p Plasma (though I could be wrong about that).
If that wasn't possible then neither would a 65" 4k set, it's a fundamental issue with the technology no amount of innovation can overcome.
Add on to that the proliferation of HDR and it's a wrap for Plasma due to it's limited peak brightness.
It's no coincidence the last Plasmas were made just before the first HDR tv's.
Even if Plasmas kicks ass with SDR content that's not really gonna matter for much longer, heck it's only really CZcams were SDR is stil the norm.
Plasma had it's advantages but it also had it's issues.
The advantages of Plasma can be added to other technologies (the emissive nature of OLED and the motion clarity of PWM LCD).
But Plasmas issues can never be overcome so it went the way of CRT, which had it's own advantages over even Plasma and could be made 4k.
So if anything CRT would be a more compatible option for modern content.
@@MsMarco6That isn't true. The companies weren't willing to invest in mass production of latest tech of new factories because the competitors were pumping out crappy LCD TVs, it didn't make business sense to them investing in losing profits due to vast numbers of inferior TV's being sold for huge profits. Panasonic and Samsung agreed to stop making Plasma TV's and Pioneer followed.
Retailers simply pushed inferior tech that was less reliable because that is what returns them repeat customers on a regular basis. Everytime I went into a shop and looked at a Plasma TV 99% of the time staff would try to drag me away and buy an LCD just as expensive or more so that has huge chunks of pixels floating all over the place when all I wanted was a demo on the high quality Plasma TV's. And this was a repeated theme all over the world!
Pioneer and even Samsung division of Plasma TV's were losing profits to the sheer quantity of inferior numbers of LCD TV sales so they eventually decided to stop making Plasma TV's altogether because of the lack of demand and consumer ignorance, inferior products sold very easily and that was why Plasma TVs stopped being made. Retailers preferred selling cheap junk in huge quantities than high quality Plasma TVs that lasted more years and didn't need replacement as often. We still have a 2006 Plasma TV that runs just as well as when brand new.
People are ignorant and preferred to buy cheap and nasty Sony LCD TVs than Plasma TV's for a few hundred more. If Plasma TV's had as much investment then it would be cheaper and is still superior tech that was first developed in the 1960's but neglected by investors with most manufacturers fixing investments and research into LCD screens. There was a 100 inch Plasma developed which weighs half a ton. I still prefer Plasma TV's over all modern flagship models. Modern TV's lack the qualities Plasma has. Now all we get is disposable junk. Retailers love planned obsolescence.
It would catch fire 🥵
is it worht buying a use dplasma?@@MsMarco6
Awesome video boss! Crazy to see how much has changed! The plasma still looks good tho
I agree 👍🏽
I have this tv since 2010 and its still working lit ❤
Well lets be fair here. This plasma was likely heavily used which causes a reduced brightness (that's prob why the bright highlights arent quite what you were wanting). The motion looks more juttery not because its worse, but because plasma tv's are an impluse technology therefore they strobe very fast to produce less unwatned motion blur (ghosting) for use cases like gaming. The reason the QLED LCD tv looks to have smoother motion is simply due to the sample and hold tech thats used in modern displays that produces unwanted motion blur (because of image persistance in the eye). And the banding problem is a non issue because almost all SDR content is 8 bit anyway not 10 bit, so the 10 bit panel on the QLED will only really help in cases where the content was designed with 10 bit color (such as HDR). So the only real wins for the QLED are HDR support, and higher brightness (when viewed from a content perspective at least because they are more effecient in power consumption and are much lighter). Also the plasma is going to look worse in a well lit room due to the grey glass with no polarzier, therefore the light from the room can wash out the blacks. And both tv's were not calibrated in this comparison as you can tell because the white points are completely different. This can change a lot of the image and isnt due to the Plasma producing worse colors, but is due to the settings on the tv not being set the same way as the QLED lcd.
This video wasn’t ment to be serious or a real review. I wanted to see the difference in a unit. Plasma is old Tech and I use to sell the Sony, Pioneer Elite as well as Panasonic at place called The Good Guys that went out of business in 2006 or something like that.
Overall, the QLED looks better to me but there were parts where I preferred the plasma. I still have my 2007 model year 42 inch Panasonic 1080p plasma in the spare room and continue to be impressed with how well it has held up. It cost just as much as my current 75" Samsung LED TV that I have in the living room!
I just replaced my 2010 50" Panasonic Plasma for a 65" S95C.
@@TerryManitoba Sounds like you had a great run with the Panasonic, enjoy the upgrade!
@@markh351 with the addition sound bar to the s95 - watching a movie has gone from simply viewing to more of an immersive experience - (if I'm allowed to be slightly dramatic-:)
@@TerryManitoba Most definitely a sound bar is a big step up from TV speakers!
Plasma tvs were expensive, I remember my uncle bought an LG Plasma 50 inch cost him 4,000 dollars.
I have a 2013 48" Samsung 1080p Plasma in my bedroom with a Roku Ultra connected, love it!
Excellent
My Panasonic Virea plasma still looks better than anything I've seen for sale in the United States. Zero motion blurr, is a must for me.
I also have 2 Panasonic plasma, but my Panasonic oled blows it out of the water.
@@pietroscarpa2384 I'm jealous, I have wanted a Panasonic OLED for years. But when they left the US market I was out of luck. But it looks like I may... be able to order through Walmart's website. Going to look into it a little further.
Probably my Panasonic OLED 48LZ500 is defective, because in HD my wonderful Plasma Panasonic TH-37PV500 bought in 2005 is slightly better. Obviously it cannot have the definition of a 4K broadcast.
I still watch a (15 y.o.) 65" Panasonic Plasma TV. It is 240 Hz, so there is no banding and fast movement is fluid. The picture is still great. ARC no longer provides audio, but Toslink is acceptable. I will hold off on buying a new tv for as long as possible.
It's real refresh rate is actually 60Hz, but because of the sub-field drive panning shots look like 240fps@240Hz.
@@Stoddardian references?
Great Review. ☺️
This is cool, like the retro review
Me too, I need to do more in the future
Need one suggestion..
Samsung Q60C or LG nanocell 77 which is better?
Nice comparison 😄
My 2008 Vizio 42" plasma is still going strong. I normally watch it in a darkened room and looks really good.
I've been using a Samsung PN42B430 for a TV hooked up to my computer. It's not my main screen but it works for watching stuff, or the odd game. One thing it fails miserably at is upscaling or down scaling to non native resolutions. It just ruins the image and motion quality to a point that I only ever run it in it's native 768p resolution at 75hz which it runs fantastic in. It's surprisingly good at non competitive video games, things like shadow of war/Mordor Or GTA. It may not look as nice as my 1440p monitor but if I use AMD's or the in game super resolution setting then It cleans it up rather nicely and you don't really notice very often that it's only 768p. The feature I love most about this TV is it's rugged center swivel stand it is a far better design then what modern Tv's are using as stands. I want to eventually get a 4k 120hz one that has good scaling so I can pick and choose my resolution more. But for now I have yet to find a TV that would fit in it's current space better then the Samsung PN42B430 Plasma TV has been doing.
Our 8 year old plasma, the last in production from LG had already been retired to the bedroom after upgrading to OLED in the lounge. Roll on 1.5 years, the picture is just way too dark despite the nice colouring, couple that with energy price hikes it is time to put it into permanent retirement. We can barely watch dark scenes in tv shows and films. I would say that HDR is the game changer more than screen resolution even. Despite its inky blacks and natural colouring, plasmas lack of HDR ability, its ageing and fading display and high energy consumption doesn't work for us in 2023, we have just ordered a QLED for the bedroom.
That’s my thought, the G3 MLA is much brighter
Have had 51” Samsung Plasma 1080p TV for over 10 years and it had no banding like that. Working great until now when it just won’t turn on. Guess I have to say goodbye to plasma. Not happy. LCD always looks flat and fake.
I like the Q tv better but nothing wrong w the plasmas if you still have one which I do Love your videos
nice I have a good Panasonic TXP42G15B 42" inch 1080p Full HD NeoPDP panel Plasma TV which is still really bright.
I have NEVER seen a comparison between Plasma and modern LCD panels before....this is something I was always curious about. I am not sure about the banding on the Samsung plasma, I don't see it on my Panasonic plasma from 2009. My Panasonic plasma is my living room TV and the picture is still incredible, as long as it is nighttime...LOL. While the plasma definitely has its strong points, I was pretty sure that modern LCD panels could compete. One thing that I appreciate about the plasma is its screen uniformity. I notice uniformity problems on every LCD I have looked at, and I don't like it at all. In addition, plasma does a great job with colors and motion. I'm still a plasma fan.
If it's upscaling 1080p to 4k, I imagine there will be some delay, it's doing more than transmitting the signal. It's a much bigger difference than from 720 to 1080.
Plasma cannot be beat by any led TV IMO. My 12 year old LG 60" plasma has worked perfectly since new....zero problems. I just bought a new 50"led uhd 4k for another room, and the plasma has a much better picture
The picture quality of Pioneer and Panasonic plasma TVs was excellent, I wish 4k plasmas were available
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My Panasonic 58 inch v10 plasma kicks some serious ass. Games look glorious on it
Awesome
I have the 42" plasma in my bed room bought 2009, still love the picture compared to my 85" qn85a in my living room. The brightness of new TV makes it better than plasma.
i have an LG 51 inch plasma that i worked out i bought in 2011 and its still going strong. Colours are so much more vibrant that LCD's not looking forward to having to replace it.
Remember what you paid for it probably expensive. You may be disappointed unless you get a hi-end 120Hz panel on your new purchase
I have a panasonic 43 inch plasma tv purchased in March 2012. It's still working almost perfectly except for a colour band that has developed some months ago on the lower side of the display (not visible on sd channels). Compared to my TCLflagship c825 mini-led tv it has a faster refresh rate, far better contrast and pitch perfect blacks. However, where the 2021 tcl scores is in the colour reproduction ( I remember you mentioning tone mapping in newer tvs).
Thank you for your interesting review.
I have that same Samsung Plasma in my garage now. Was my main TV for 10 years until I got my LG B8 OLED tv 3 years ago. I left that plasma on almost all day everyday and something was always playing it. Never died out or nothing compared to other tv in my house that aren’t my OLED. Built to last it does.
I still own a 65" Panasonic plasma, and I am currently looking for a replacement. The TV still has a great picture, and it's a struggle to find something comparable, and worth me spending money on.
Don't change your plasma.modern TV suck in motion.Plasma has the best motion very natural.modern TV struggle in cinematic motion that's s why they add soap opera effect that suck too
And now, we have OLEDs which claim to be the successor to the plasma, but they are actually not. Back in the day, you’re able to purchase a plasma TV for £399 (which is around $299) while the OLED with the same size costs around £1200, which is making people cry. Who wants a PDP comeback?
Is there a new TV tech after OLED? Should we get a OLED ? Are there OLED alternative?
Still using my Pioneer Plasma TV
I have an LG Plasma 50" that I bought in 2011. Lately, I had problems with it. So, I've decided to go Oled (Samsung 55"). Big mistake! Even though the colors are more vivid and richer on the Oled, the image itself looks unnatural. It’s as if the TV artificially painted the colors on the image (sorry, I don't have the right words to describe it). In short, it's hideously ugly. It doesn't have the warmth and the organic feel of the plasma. I sent back the Oled two days after receving it and called a repair shop for the plasma in hope they're gonna be able to fix it. BTW, good video. Thanks!
Yes I had the same experience with my OLED LG c2. Still rocking the ST60 plasma
exact ! I also prefer the natural cinema rendering of my Panasonic 55st50e and Panasonic 65VT60 plasma TVs? I also have a Panasonic TX55JZ1500 OLED TV that I use for video games (PS5 4K) and the plasma for films.
tengo un plasma samsung 43 pulgadas 3D full hd se ve muy hermoso con colores vivos y fluidez en sus movimientos es increíble para una tecnología de hace 12 años
As i understand the Samsung plasma TV is a budget model from 2010. A comparison with a more high end Plasma from same period will be much more interesting.
I got a plasma tv last year from a neighbor for $50. So it works for me. Another advantage of plasma is that the viewing angle is much wider for group viewing.
I brought a Panasonic plasma last year I noticed that the viewing angle was way better than lcd tv
I wonder how it compares to the ZT Panasonic plasma
51" Samsung 720 plasma ... always used FireTV sticks ... recent intermittent flickering, and occasional black screen with sound ... assume ~10yo power circuit is faulty.
Probably choosing Hisense U6K 55" $398 Walmart, eh?
This is exactly what I just experienced.
I just bought an S95C which replaced my 15 yo Panasonic 50" Plasma
I think it would come down to the type of content you like to watch.. Sports would look better on the plasma... 4k HDR movies will of course look better on the QLED.. Also I think older 1080p/720p might look better on the Plasma.. It really depends on the specific QLED tho many modern QLED still struggle to up convert a low res signal to 4k..... In the plasma case it either won't have to upconvert at all or not nearly as much as the 4k..
❤ Nice content, this really brings back memories....as a new salesman i will say.
Plasma are better in terms of:
Built materials
Ruggedness
Better Tolerance when it comes to power
Original manufacturing company
The new Q series outperformed the Plasma in majority of other features.
I guess it's time to say goodbye to plasma
I would love to see PLASMA, LCD, LED & QLED simultaneously
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@@TechSteve or probably this Plasma VS LCD
is this qled q60b?
I have two 2012 Panasonic plasmas I compare them against any OLED or OLED I'm a die hard Panasonic plasma guy if we could get Panasonic OLEDs here in the US id buy one
Panasonic 46 inch plasma 3dtv 2012 up and running. But iam move this year to a new house and saving money to bay a tcl 98 144hz.
Buy a Panasonic oled.
Still rocking my panasonic tx plasma 🤘 but man the Sony the Sony 😂
Wow 🤩
Plasma is more natural in colors
Current TV is too colourful and doesn't look real
Plasma wins hands down.
I'm lucky we have both and Plasma can't be replaced
Agree colors look like cartoonists
Prob would've been better if you compared to panasonic st60 vs qled
It was a random ad selling this tv I didn’t go looking for a plasma it was cheap so i made a video
Well find an ST60 then! 😊❤
What the difference between Q60B/C the HDR mapping feature? 📺🕵️
Never test those kinds of details, most people don’t ask about these kinds of things on videos, but they have the same process if that helps.
Plasma has stronger greens. On scene with the yellow car, green lead lights are the most noticeable part.
put oled up against the mighty pioneer kuro n the kuro still holds up very well m better in some aspects.
At some point lcd will surpass oled
I still have my plasma tv ( Panasonic) and stills doing Very well some times better than my Samsung Q60a tv
Same man I have a 60 inch Panasonic plasma and it leaves my 50 inch 4k vizo in the dust... The blacks are literally gray on the Vizio
Panasonic plasmas we’re fantastic, so were the pioneer Elite.
Plasma is great if you want a good tv but cheap.
Hey where you get that tv from lol. Ha ha ha
Offer up then gave it to a family member who loves plasma, lol
Viera Panasonic is besta plasma tv
Get a F8500 or ST60
My 60 inch LG was going great still but the picture is slowly fading unfortunately
That is unfortunate
I am a Plasma Fan, but I am honest, the Plasma does not look good compared to the Samsung. I have a 42inch Panasonic Plasma and a 42inch Panasonic LCD..
Both are great but with bright scenes the Plasma really struggles.. It shines with dark scenes. The biggest advantage of Plasma TVs: You can get them really cheap and have fun with them until they die..
The strongest point of a plasma is the motion clarity.
I prefer OLED but plasma was better than most LCD back in the day and can still be pretty good.
Plasma beats any new led lcd tv Today except for oled
@@DefKiller90 Plasma still has better motion clarity than OLED. Even color reproduction looks better in my opinion.
The color appears just as vibrant. The black is not as deep.
Do this test again but with a plasma panasonic zt60, it will crush the qled
Do it with the ST60. Better peak brightness, same blacks.
@@swardmusiczt has much better blacks than the Qled
The entire 60-lineup is great!l My “new” reset and calibrated KRP-500M will give them a run for their money though, much darker blacks than my VT60
Im prefer plasma tv because im dont have money to buy a new oled
led poop tech vs mighty plasma
Find a 2013 plasma. Amazing. Lcds suck
O LCD e muito melhor que essa porcaria de plasma escuro
@@AndersonNatal_ english?
@@swardmusic Translation: ”LCD is much better than this dark plasma crap”
@@NR20244 just bought a sony x90l. V cool. Plasma still has a magic that lcd doesnt have though.
@@swardmusic plasma displays have more vibrant colours than lcd I’d say. Not owned a plasma tv for over 7 years
Plasma TV were built to last 20 years or more
Any new lcd have surpassed plasma in brightness and contrast
in brightness yes but that was always the case due to the backlighting technology of LCD TVs, on the other hand in terms of contrast, it is false! Panasonic plasma TVs without forgetting of course the Pioneer Kuro plasmas have a much better contrast than the LCD and QLED TVs of the moment! I have two Panasonic 55st and 65vt60 plasma TVs as well as a Panasonic 55jz1500 OLED TV, having put the plasma side by side against the OLED, personally I prefer the general rendering of the plasma for films and the OLED for games 4k videos.
@@johnpatrickmason7067 have you seen mini led
The motion clarity of a plasma is still vastly superior. Most plasmas have a persistence of 4ms. QLEDs with 60fps@60Hz have a persistence of 16ms. Even TVs with 120fps@120Hz Still have a persistence of 8ms. In other words, you would need TVs with 240fps@240Hz to get to the motion clarity of a plasma. We're not there yet. And it gets even worse. In order to get that motion clarity you need 240fps content, which is only available for the most powerful gaming computers. You can forget about 240fps movies or TV shows. That's never going to happen. This is the fundamental flaw of sample-and-hold displays like QLEDs or OLEDs. Plasmas however were like CRTs. They were impulse displays, which means they didn't need high frame rate content to generate clear motion. On a plasma a 24fps movie or a 30fps video game looked like 240fps when panning the camera. That's the beauty of impulse displays.
Thats why the TV Makers implemented Motion Interpolation to match the frame rate. Some TV Brands like Sony are very good at this.
@@sonyx4500 It doesn't really work all that well. There are always artifacts.
@@Stoddardian Don't see any artifacts on my Sony. I use the clear mode which combines bfi with Motion Interpolation. Also no Soap Opera Effect.
@@sonyx4500 Press (X) to doubt.
@@Stoddardian Even if there are. I don't notice it. So it works well
you got the wrong plasma try this test with samsung pnf8500 and you will see the difference.
It was a cheap offer up model for $50, throw away video at this point
@@TechSteve Nah it was a good video. Not many youtubers are willing to make a comparison like this and it really shows the strengths of plasma compared to low to even mid-range lcd. I would say look for Pioneer elite 8th gen or ST, VT, or ZT series Panasonic for a more interesting comparison.
The colors and brightness qled wins
It's time to retire the plasma tv .
Lol, it’s time alright brother
I still use my 2010 Panasonic 54" G25 every day. I love it.
@@johnsineni I also have a plasma Panasonic 42inch but seeing mini led have better brightness and color.
@@mrlopez7173 but the Mini LED also has some blooming that is visible it very very dark rooms. I have a Mini LED, LG QNED85 as well. But a Mini LED is probably better than anything else out there for bright rooms, at least from my eyes. And it is funny I got a crazy deal on the LG QNED85AQA 65", $936 BJs on Cyber Monday, which was way cheaper than the $1,325 I paid in 2010 for the 54" Plasma.
glad I skipped that short lived generation of television
Plasma is old but cheap in 2023 i dont think is good in 2023 no HDR NO 4K NO 120 HZ
Go to a movie theater. Usually no wide gamut, no HDR, 24fps, and often with 1080p content. Nobody complains about that.
@@2kBofFun People don’t go movies 🍿 like before is always empty too much streams..You can’t compare movie theaters with home systems..Movies theaters is big and sound better the price is different ..Tv look better but the experience in movie theaters 🍿 is different is more immersive
@@carlosdinero6692 Of the 100 last movies I've seen, maby 5-10 are available online as stream (if you don't count torrents, those have 100% available). I watched like 80 on Blu Ray, 20 in the theatre. Of the BR's, only 5 were available as 4K disc.
Cant believe how awful the blacks are on the plasma! Even ips is better!
Cause is not Panasonic remember samsung are lcd tv
The blacks are good, but the screen coating is very reflective and the panel has a greyish appearance in a lit room. I can tell you that in a somewhat darkened room, the plasma contrast vastly exceeds IPS. But if the sun falls on the panel, you have serious problems. An LCD will work better as the brightness is higher, and the matte black coating takes away most glare.
I'm still using my 16 year old Panasonic Plasma. The picture is still beautiful. I do think I will be upgrading to a new Sony before long though.
Panasonic left the US I wish that updated the TVs at the time and keep going. They lost their popularity when they didn’t pivot
@@TechSteve I wish they were here too. They still make great TV's, including OLED. They are available in Canada and the rest of the world, but they don't sell them in the US anymore. That is very strange to abandon such a large market.
The money dried up and they cut the losses
Modern TV suck in motion