Shogun Episode 9 Ending & Why It Was Perfect!
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- čas přidán 11. 06. 2024
- We need to talk about Shogun Episode 9. I don’t think I’ve felt this amount of tension since I’ve watched Succession’s final episode and I already knew what was going to happen to Mariko. This should tell you a lot about the greatness of this TV show. They’re doing an amazing job. Praises aside, let’s do a breakdown of the penultimate episode of Shogun, where Mariko experienced the death of her dreams and died as a martyr.
00:00 Intro
01:17 Toranaga's Plans
02:51 The Next Steps
04:34 The Final Betrayal
05:36 Consequences
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That’s how you write Strong Female character and not some Marry Sue bs
You should watch "BLUE EYE SAMURAI". I promise you wont be disappointment.
@@Lrn2Bebop the fact that you think that I have not watched it or Friren yet, is already offensive 😃😃
@chillvanna thats next level funny
True. Mariko is a badass woman character in this modern age of wokiness. Shogun is a masterpiece.
@@rigilkent8681 How is she bad assery when she stands in front of the door to die. What exactly does this achieve?
This was a very emotional episode. Mariko genuinely loved Blackthorne but, her duty to her lord came before love. I was elated when her supposed demise was postponed due to Ishido permitting her permit to leave. Her own sacrifice to save others came as a very big shock. It was not a plan that Toronaga foresaw but, it gives his plans ultimate leverage in achieving his goals. I hope that Anna Sawa receives an award for her role as Mariko. An absolute entrhalling adaptation and depiction of feudal Japan. 10 + stars.
It wasn't just about Mariko's duty to her lord.....it was her revenge on her fathers enemies who killed her entire family
Well she wanted to die and got it but it wasn't necessary. Whatever Toranaga is planning to do he can achieve it without the death of Mariko or his loyal general. He is simply going to attack the castle anyways and presumably his brother is in on it and will turn around and help him. Really he just needs to kill Ishido not engage everyone in war.
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Mariko is based on Hosokawa Gracia, who it is believed that died in explosion.
Mariko's dying scene seems to be a historical tribute
Broken hearted about Mariko. Speechless that Blackthorne being willing to stand in. Nothing but disdain for Yaboshigo. I hope Ishido dies a painful death by Toronago's hand and Fuji and Blackthorne live a long happy life.
It shows that John Blackthorne has embraced and is immersed in Japanese culture. That's his character arc that he is no longer the Englishman and has become Japanese. It's similar to the movie Last Samurai where he shuns going home and stays in Japan. Would have like to see John and Mariko have a happy ending but that's not how the book goes.
@@jonfreeman9682 Looks to me like he did it out of respect to her. Accepting he could not talk her out of it, he accepted what was going to happen and considered the best thing he could do for her, even if he doesn't understand or agree with it.
The scene earlier he was still trying to talk her out of it, saying life has more value than death. He didn't agree with her decision. But when it was time, he respected her decision and would rather do it himself and second her than have her suffer. He set aside his own view on the matter to support her in her final moments.
Nothing indicates he agreed with her decision, but he did respect it.
按針さんの息子迄いつか描いて欲しいです。娘もいました。
"Flowers are only flowers because they fall"
Was a line written by Hosokawa Gracia, the historical basis for Akechi Mariko
I love how short and direct your explanations are. You don’t tell us what happened you tell us what to expect based on actions that happened
I don't like doing recaps lol 😂
What an emotional roller-coaster.
This series is awesome and I feel so much more familiar with the history and feudal state of old Japan.
Soo fucking good. This might beat out Vikings and the last kingdom. I love these kinda series. History or not. It really sucks you into the culture and the times
It's okay but lots of jabbering and not much action so far. Just blah blah blah. Where's that Crimson Sky they promised. When the title of your episode is called Crimson Sky you kinda expect Crimson Sky storming the castle 🏰 with cannons and a thousand samurai clashing swords ⚔️ and arrows flying and fire smoke and brimstone. But no we just get 3 stroke samurai unceremoniously killed by an arrow out of nowhere and Mariko doing spear ballet then tripping and falling. But the Shinobi seige on the gang was a nice twist.
@@jonfreeman9682 Sounds like tiktok videos and marvel movies are more your speed.
yabushige is definitely going to perform seppuku %100 next episode.
I already knew about that from the book, da book. "
I mean he has to after what he did!!!!
I think Ishido will execute him. For sure he'll find someone responsible for the death of Mariko. Damn both Ishido and Toronaga ang genius generals.
Well you can only play both sides for so long. But he's such a great character he deserves redemption. In the end he's going to help Toranaga defeat Ishido.
i enjoy you giving your thoughts on the eps every week so far , so for the finale if you did even longer id love it
Thank you! I'll try and do a little longer one for the finale
Just give Shogun all the Emmys
I AGREE!
Even though I knew what would happened, I was in tears . When Mariko, fought the samuri and of course when they blow the door. Mariko was so brave.
I’ve loved that actor since Mongol! A great film and a great performance. He was awesome here too!
I have to watch his other performances for sure!
“MARIKO GET OUTTA THE FUCKING WAY!!!” -me screaming at the TV right before Mariko died
I love Yaboshigo because lets be honest, we would all be him. Hes the only guy not bound by blind loyalty, despite trying to be loyal, he values his life above all, and thats what makes him so relatable. 99% of us would question our loyalty if we were sure it would lead to our death, and thats why he is at the end of the day faultless. Torunaga never lets him in on his plans, despite his insistence, so he is only ever given more reasons to betray him to save his head. Love his character, its the most believable among all the crazy blind loyalty
Yes! But we love heroes because they are heroes not because they are traitors like you....!
Nope, I don't relate at all. I don't boil people, had not ever considered it. I don't kill people just to see what their final moments are. Yes we are all duplicitous in some ways but its usually for a reason, not a personality trait. The character is funny.
Yabushige didn't want to kill Mariko, you can see the ninjas are trying to snatch her away
By the book....they tried to kill her....!
@@florinmanta1 How? She was carry away, can't you see????
The Shinobi weren’t trying to kill the women who tried to leave. They ignored them except Mariko, who they wanted to kidnap.
Hmmmm, I thought they wanted to kill everyone who wants to get out of the castle, but kidnapping makes much more sense!
They wanted to Kill Mariko, she Liteeally says it!
Yes the ninjas were there to capture Mariko and the ladies and force them to stay at the castle…probably under constant supervision so that Mariko couldn’t commit seppuku either. That’s why Yabushige was trying to guide them to the gate - so they all could be captured. He didn’t realize John would use his gun and they’d all run into the room with the metal door. Remember, Mariko’s death would have spelled trouble for Ishido so he did not want to be the cause of her death. Mariko knew this and took control of the situation by sacrificing herself.
@@thenextseason They cant kill Mariko, if she dies Ishido loses all support. Thats why she martyr'd herself. The mission was a decisive failure.
No they were there to kill her not re-kidnap her 😂
The acting in this series has been superb.
i liked how she looked at blackthrone and knew she was protecting him too
Yabushige's betrayal and Mariko's martyrdom, all part of Lord Toranaga's plan.
Not at all. But it worked out in his favour, anyway.
This is why this show is fucking great. Toranaga is smart as fuck, so bunch of shit is happening to him and to the situation and in the end you always ask yourself: was this in his plan aswell?
Yep. The Lord works in mysterious ways :P
Him betraying torunaga really sold it.
So Toranaga sending Mariko to Ishido and hopefully ignite some kind of rebellion was the new "Crimson Sky" plan? Or why was this episode called "Crimson Sky"?
Wasn't Crimson Sky about launching one concentrated big attack on Osaka and killing the Reagents + Ishido?
I think the chapter is called crimson sky. There’s 2 for each chapter . Next and final episode will be war and you will see it.
what was Yabushige's thing in the end? he let the assassins in and also later trapped in the warehouse with everyone? im confused
any historian here specializing in japanese culture at the time? I just noticed that when mariko was about to perform seppuku she aimed the knife towards her chest instead of her belly. so was she going to cut her heart out instead of the guts? are the seppuku rituals different for men and women at the time?
I was curious about that too and I checked! It is said that the female samurai either went for the throat or the heart. Mariko was aiming at her heart :(
It's likely they didn't expect women to have the physical strength required to rip a blade across the abdomen.
Their official podcast covers this. At the time only samurai committed seppuku. Any woman doing this wouldn’t technically be performing seppuku instead their attempt at killing themselves would be symbolic and the second would actually be the way they’d day. Also historically it was more common for them to hold the knife up and fall into it rather than how seppuku was done which is to stab then cut through.
This film deserves a place to yhe walk of fame
Huge crush on Mariko 💔
FR!!!!!
I thought Yaboshigo was playing both sides from Toranagas benefit
I don’t think Yabashige thinks deeply. He’s been shown to only use both sides to ensure his immediate survival - a short winged hawk. But I think Big T expects his betrayal to force Ishido’s downfall.
@@Melodicroger According to history, Yabashige lives like 15-20 more years. So hopefully they dont change his story. I've grown fond of him.
In regards to Yabushige I’m right there with you I feel like I should dislike him but I don’t think I do.
Offering to cut off her head to save her from eternal damnation... now that's peak rizz right there!
17th century rizz >>>>>>
EPISODE 9 is the longest episode yet but also the quickest to finish.. damn, Mariko is so tenacious she controlled the decisions of men... I bow down in reverence for Mariko
I know exactly what you mean. I want him to be the ultimate roose, so he's just a part of the plan, but he did open the door to the Shinobu.
Yobushige was a known traitor. That's why Toranaga had a spy in his village.
He will no doubt pay for his treason. And with the viewer knowing how he contributed to Mariko's death, a beloved character, the viewer will support his execution.
@@MustardSkaven Nah, he rules. He's the best character so far. I never really liked Mariko. She pretends to be so above it all but she's clearly mentally weak and overly emotional. Her theatrics are also so obvious to the point of comedy but that might be the actress. She's honestly the worst character and I'm happy she's dead.
I never was as broken about a character's death as much as I was by Ned Stark until Mariko! 😭😭😭 She is a magnificent character in the story, and Anna Sawai deserves an Oscar for her role!
Apt comparison. Both characters who live by honor, both who do not engage in willful deception, both who are duty bound and both who accept death realizing that their deaths, though unwelcomed, will ignite an unstoppable force that will ultimately end an unjust rule.
Winter is coming
The lords will mostly rally against Ishido. As they did in real life.
Damn! it's Fuji's turn to die in the next episode.
Nooo :(
It's a good series. Obviously, production values have gone up since the Richard Chamberlin series. However, I think that one's content was much closer to the James Clavell novel. Which, by the way, if you love this story, you'll love the book! The Mario/Anjin love story was epic in the book. "Hearing" Toranaga's thought process in the book was sublime. Time to reread for me!
Will definitely read after the show's end!
Start off in this order-King Rat, Tai-Pan, and Shogun. In his 4th book “Noble House,” he has descendants of characters from all three novels in it.))
3:51 suicide a sin in her faith, she hasn't converted yet in the flashback scene
Oh that's correct
Seppuku for everybody !
One shot for three birdies
Amazing episode, the only thing is….only a fool would have thought ishdo wasn’t going to try and kill everyone. Toronaga should have told Mariko to expect an assassination attempt. That was his only error
No, Mariko went to Osaka, knowing full well her task and the risks of death.
To Yabushiges defense, he is in a hard place no matter what he does. And he did not know Torenagas larger plan.
It's like he says. He escapes one death only to fall into another. The guy can't get a break.
With the title "Crimson Sky" I was waiting for a big fight, but I was disappointed. I hope the final episode will see some action.
if I started a war, id be naming that war from the ignition start to the ending
instead of being disappointed, i think its a better idea on realizing that with Mariko's death, Crimson Sky begins, its simple thinking, things aren't always what it seems
@@davidbayking3221 zip it, nerd.
Yea, I honestly don’t think Ishido sent the assassins that was Torenaga to make it LooK like Ishido was having Mariko killed, all apart of Crimson Sky, Mariko was gonna die no matter what! The “Betrayer” did his job😳
Actually that is genius! I wondered why they didn't show Yabushige & Ishido's deal. That's probably because Ishido has no idea 😂
Toronaga KNEW yabu would do this because he knows him well. Just like he knew blackthorn would go to ask to sail for Yabu. He didn't tell them to, he knew it was their nature to do so in their own. That's the genius.
I feel Toronaga wants to use yabushiga's nephew to control his army
He did realize how smart Omi is so that's quite possible
It would be great if Mariko were still alive, but the historical facts are as follows.
Mitsunari Ishida (Ishido in SHOGUN), who was an enemy of Ieyasu(Toranaga in SHOGUN), tried to take Garasha Hosokawa (Mariko Toda in SHOGUN) hostage at Tamatsukuri's Hosokawa mansion in Osaka, but Garasha refused. The next day, Mitsunari went out to use his force and had his soldiers surround the mansion. When the vassals told Garasha everything, Garasha prayed a little, then gathered all the maids and ladies in the mansion and said, ``As my husband has commanded, I alone want to die,'' and led them outside. . Later, as suicide is prohibited in Christianity, the chief retainer, Hidekiyo Ogasawara (Shosai), intervened with Garasha and committed suicide by setting explosives in the mansion and setting it on fire so that no body would be left behind. Her death haiku was, ``Only when you know when it is time to scatter can flowers in this world become flowers and people become people.''
A few hours after her death, Father Niecchi Sordi Organtino visited the burnt remains of the Hosokawa mansion, picked up Garasha's bones, and buried them in the Christian cemetery in Sakai.
Why are you using a Chinese music to a Japanese topic?
Yabushige is kind of doing what Toronaga did before he was as powerful as he is in the show. Toronaga basically purposefully arrived to late to aid his ally/liege and then came to an agreement with the Taiko.
Said agreement allowed him to not commit as fully as others to the Korean invasion (which was ultimately a debacle) thus cementing his position as the strongest of the regents once the Taiko died.
This is not a tale about a virtuous rightful leader. This is a story about the one who was a bit better at playing the game (and who was smiled upon by fate at the right occasions).
This whole notion that Lady Ochiba should have picked his side is laughable. She is bang on the money what the fate of her son will be, when Toronaga wins.
War is coming
Thumbnails that spoil it for those who haven't watched the episode yet.
Good video aside from the constant bad pronunciation of seppuku…..the series mentions it several times teaching us the proper way to say it
Buddy just trying to surivive lol
I LOVE HIM ❤️
Nah....what happened is that she finally realized that there is nothing "glamorous" or "honorable" or "romantic" about death until sh11t got real.
That's also possible
I don't understand why one can say that she is so romanticized death that she doesn't care for her son. One must understand culture before saying things that seem insulting. This is the culture back in 1600 Japan, death as the ultimate sacrifice. As punishment her own husband refused to let her do it and prolonged her shame about her father. To not fulfill her duty is the ultimate shame.
Yeah uhhh... a person standing next to a door and the whole wall explodes isn't saving anyone. I thought that was extremely stupid.
Yeah I know but it still diminishes the impact of the explosion, right?
@@thenextseason It's still offing herself as she willingly went into the path of it knowingly so according to her silly beliefs she'll burn for eternity.
😎👍❕️
Would you'l take suggestions of possible spinoff mini-serirs you might like to watch such as...
Shogun: The Bushido Code
Shogun: The Willow World of Edo ('nuff said)
Shogun: Battles of the Faiths (Catholics vs Protestants vs Buddhists)
Shogun: Tales of Wajiro's Stone Garden
Shogun: Sepuku of a Warrior, The Permanent Solution To A Temporary Problemshog
Shogun: Yabu-Shigi's Book of Death
#KatanasAndKimonosRock
女性には「切腹」ではなく「自害」では?
BGM is Chinese.
Mariko’s sacrifice was as multi-faceted as her character was. She knew that the Shinobi attack was aimed at her so when she, Blackthorne, and others (including Torunaga’s newborn) were trapped in the storage house and the door was being rigged to blow, she sacrificed herself to save Blackthorne (the man she love and the man who saw her as a person rather than as a possession), Torunaga’s child (the child of her lord, thus fulfilling her duties to Torunaga to the very end), the others (saving others from dying for her), and herself (by sacrificing herself to save others, out of duty, love, or compassion, she restores honor to her name which ironically led later Christians to consider her a saint). Anna Sawaii definitely deserves an award for her deep, beautiful acting. They would have to be nuts, blind, deaf, or dumb AF to not recognize her performance of understated elegance.
It was her power move to bring disgrace to the Houses that labeled her father a traitor and smeared her family name. Mariko was exercising perhaps her own avenue of power, and by accepting death, she was not surrendering but visiting dishonor upon all the Houses who permitted such a vile act of cowardice to occur while she was a "guest" in Osaka!
You knew Yobu was like a used car salesman who would do whatever he could to save his skin. He always seems to do what is best for himself. Eventually that kind of thinking catches up to everyone. You notice that even in his betrayal he couldn't fully commit to even that. What was great about Mariko's polearm scene is it showed her getting tired being wore down by the number of enemies she wasn't some girl boss taking down 12 men by herself although she fought valiantly. One of my favorite movies is the "Duelist" where it shows the energy and exhaustion from long confrontations not Hollywood superhero BS. Notice how John was willing to be her 2nd and end her rather than see her suffer if that isn't loyalty I don't know what is. I think Ishido has already alienated the others on his counsel by wiping out one family already who tried to leave. The others will have seen that and wondered if that would be their fate as well. I think John will get the hostages out somehow in the next episode back to Toranaga. I think John will eventually be in a relationship with Usami and build Toranagna a fleet of ships and finally come to realize that his future lies in Japan.
Toronaga is one of the most confused lords I don’t blame him having traitors he sacrifices everyone and has no clear plan
I think his plan is clear but only he knows it so everyone else is confused about it :)
yeah perfect, another one who got money hahahahahah
THE ENDING SUCKS!!! DUDE COMMON!!!
That was Toranaga’s men who ambushed them. Not Ishido’s. I think he wants to put all the blame to Ishido.
Another commenter also pointed this out and I think it makes more sense
hated this episode i disagree with everything you said
THIS EPISODE IS STUPID!!! IT MAKES NO SENSE AND THE WRITERS DID NOT RESEARCH!! FLAWS:
1) Mariko was tasked to A) rescue Toranaga's Wife, Consort and New Son, and escort them from the castle. B) if refused to leave, that proves all the "royals" are prisoners. Her "Suicide" was to Embarrass Ishido and the Court.
2) Since Ishido relented to release Mariko and the others, HER DUTY WAS TO GET THEM TO Toranaga, letting herself be killed was BREAKING THE PLEDGE to Toranaga!! MAKE NO SENSE, ESPECIALLY since she just found Love with Blackthorne!!
3) THERE IS NO HISTORY OF WOMEN OF ROYALITY COMMITING SEPPUKU! Mariko was a "Lady", ie Royalty, and NOT A SAMURAI! QUOTE: The custom known as "seppuku," which specifically refers to ritual suicide by disembowelment, was reserved for men of the samurai class in feudal Japan. Samurai women had different methods, which traditionally involved either slashing their own throat or stabbing themselves in the heart.Apr 16, 2024" AGAIN, MARIKO WAS NOT A SAMURAI, She Was Royality, "Lady"!!! The Character that Markio is BASED ON, NEVER HAD CONTACT WITH BLACKTHORNE, DID NOT COMMIT SUICIDE OF ANY KIND, was actually killed by her servant as she about to be captured.!! PS, the ACTUAL "Translator" that Toranaga assigned in the REAL story was a JAPANESE MAN, NOT A WOMAN!! The Writing in the Hulu Fantasy Shogun is Bullshit and Full or Flaws and Historical Inaccuracies! Blackthorne's REAL Character "Adams" Actually MARRIED his Japanese Consort assigned by Toranaga and they had two children.
Good episode but not great. The episode is called Crimson Sky so we should get Crimson Sky with John Blackthorne sailing the Erasmus blasting his cannons and storming the castle walls with a thousand samurai clashing swords and arrows flying and fire brimstone and smoke. We expect an epic battle and all we got is 3 stroke samurai killed without honor by an arrow and Mariko swinging a spear and falling on the ground. This is false advertising.
What you want and describe is for low IQ people. This version of Crimson Sky shows how to win with cunning mind, not with slashing swords mindlessly.
@@Tarq666😂😂😂😂👍
I think they tried to subvert our expectations by showing us a one-woman army instead of a big battle. I loved it but it's a matter of preference :)
Dude....run your posts by an adult before hitting the reply button!
Dreadful adaptation of the book. Had so much potential and I was really looking forward to the remake but have been really disappointed 😢
I am watching the original miniseries which although dated outlines the story so much better and frames the Mariko/Blackthorn storyline far better than this so called remake !
Glad they're changing it up. There's no joy in knowing what's gonna happen.
Well, as I remember the original show and I agree: this remake is sadly not at the same level.
Oh my god - todays version is SO MUCH better. I know the story and it doesn’t even matter I think about these characters long after an episode is over
Uh….no offense, but I feel like you have little comprehension of what you are watching. 😂
Thanks :/
DID her head get blown off?
Probably:(