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We're responding to your comments from last month's superhero design series! You guys left some great comments about the advantages of tights, the iconic look of trunks, and the aerodynamics of capes! Plus, we put all your votes together to try and decide who is the best designed comic book superhero! Also, there are a few corrections from our video about why superheroes have white eyes.
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This is the most criminally underrated channel on CZcams.
You are so right.
+Plaguesque then do so..... bitch.
+Raul Mejia Mr Sunday Movies?
MovieFueds is far more underrated. Fewer subscribes but genius content
Plaguesque I'm glad to see another fan. They are quite rare sadly.
as an artist, and as an artist that often draws superheros, i can tell you that drawing tights is NOT easier than loose fitting clothes. especially since with clothes, you just draw wrinkles. whereas tights, not only do you (sometimes) have to draw wrinkles, but also the musculature of the hero, and you also have to get the anatomy to at least LOOK correct. some artists are very stylized, i prefer realism, so while this may be different for other artists, ive never met another artist that thought drawing tights was easier than loose fitting clothes.
I don't think its easier either, BUT it can be more dynamic and expressive! Ya know, you can really see the person :D
Yeah. WHY NOT JUST FLY SLOWER?!?
+Mr Sunday Movies yes obviously
Mr Sunday Movies!!!!!!!!!!
So mr SM is watching NC!
Because supergirl sucks!
Because supergirl sucks!
It really depends on the character, their personality, skill set, and powers. For characters who do a lot of acrobatics (spider-man, nightwing, and daredevil) it makes sense to go capeless as it would get in the way and restrict them. For characters who are known to have a strong regal stature (superman, batman, and thor) the cape gives them a strong upper class look.
Characters known for their Physical prowess (spiderman, superman, captain america, and flash) it makes sense to wear tights that don't restrict movement and show off their muscles. Characters who are known for other abilities like tech and magic (iron man, dr. strange, or rorschach) it makes no sense to wear tight clothing.
Some genuine objectiveness on the art stuff:
Bodysuits: If you're drawing humans to a professional standard, you always draw them buck-naked and _then_ clothe them. Not detailed buck-naked, mind, and we all know not every comic artist is a spectacular anatomist coughLiefeldcough - but naked all the same. The body is the primary action, and the hair and garments are secondary reaction - they specifically follow through on the movement of the first. One common method of simplifying designs in a cartoon is making clothing that either is indistinguishable from the base model in construction or just doesn't move (see Simpsons - 3D construction, but the clothing is cylinders at the loosest), and in the more realistic art style employed for superhero comics both of these would be jarring if they weren't explained away as being spandex, which has similar properties in real-life.
Eyes: Distance means smaller scaling on a physical medium, which means that a detail misplaced by a tiny amount on the page can be greatly offset on the character model itself. This is why anime often becomes the most off-model in wide shots, and why the Steven Universe staff designed much more simplified character models for this purpose. Pupils are one of the easiest things to screw up since if you don't perfectly align them it makes the character appear to have strabismus or lazy eye, and this is genuinely harder the smaller the detail gets.
Dee Cross eh, I like drawing clothes first. I feel like it helps the movement better
Hi foof
Moon Knight - No trunks, cape, white eyes.
Depends on the version we're talking about.
Michael Platson iron man with a cape
Also Black Panther.
:D
Nope! He doesn't have a cape. I suggest... New 52 Batman.
I think everyone's forgetting about the golden age Green Lantern Alan Scott. white eyes, no trunks, cape and in most depictions his clothes look baggy. Not tight at all.
The Capes can also be used for intimidation and combat. A good example of this is Batman, he uses his cape to shield himself from certain types of attacks, stun enemies and glide also he just wouldn't be as scary without the cape flowing from his back.
Shellshock Gaming I'm pretty sure that's mostly Batman. (And other batfam people) Batman is probably one of the few that actually ARMORED his cape and tried to be menacing.
IDK. Don't hate this.
Batman is the main one but other lesser known characters like The Spectre and Spawn also use their capes for similar purposes. But really the purpose of the cape depends on the person its attached to.
Could use the cape for a net like a gladiator, but i have never seen him use it as a weapon in a fist fight, or against anyone with a weapon to block the weapon other than one time fire in a movie. Movie had to have reason for cape to be there as was not intended for just children. He used it one time in one story like a matador against a bull in one comic.
Capes suck!! How can you do Martial arts or back flips???
John smith because he's batman
In an early issue of Superman or Action Comics, before he learned to fly, Clark was falling towards a crowd and in an effort not to crush them on his massive pecs, he was able to grab the hemming of his cape and use it as a glider.
After talking to an actual physics professor, the Drag of a cape is actually useful in suddenly slowing down for a turn. Why not fly slower? Easy answer: Your enemy isn't going to slow down and you HAVE to catch them.
+Akiva Daphydd Interesting! Very interesting. Cheers :) - Nali
Dude the channel responded whooooohhhh
+Akiva Daphydd sorry bud, i just don't believe that yo casually just talked to a physicist recently for the convenience of this comment
Maximus Keeble
Considering that physicist is my brother... But that's okay. You don't have to believe me.
Drag is always there. The drag of the cape decreases the amount of energy the flying superhero needs to expend in order to slow down as well as decreasing the distance required for the slow down. Now at the power levels we're discussing, it's probably still negligible, but they're comics. In the end, best not to think about it too hard (as my brother put it to get out of the conversation).
Superman's trunks give the belt more of a reason to be there. The belt looks *EVEN MORE* pointless without the trunks.
Mysterious Enigma exactly! They colored the belt red btw, that sucks
Yeah, superman without trunks, it just feels wrong.
also I never noticed before how much the bare neck and trapezius was necessary for his look.
I could see the belt still being present to break up all the blue a bit
Wait. 71% didn't like tights and 65% didn't like trunks? So 6% of people want superheroes to wear jeans and their underwear on the outside? A lot of Quail Man fans out there.
Probably different people being surveyed.
not how that works but I still laughed
Oh wow that's so random I literally just watched an episode of Doug about Quail Man last night
Golden Age green lantern. Cape Yes, Tights, no, Briefs No, basicly that is who your fans voted for.
and white eyes yes!
Well done, Alan Scott!
Grandpappy green for the win
Super heroes have white eyes because they are spooked that Maz Kanata may find out their identity
+TheTrueBlueSonicFan "I've seen your eyes before Tony, Billionaires with no parents who become super heroes. You're afraid of losing anyone else, so put on a suit with expensive gadgets to try to protect everyone."
I tried.
+MetalCheese DeathAttack and for that we thank you
lair345
MetalCheese DeathAttack Isn't that Batman? :P Plus Tony's identity is known to the public XD
TheTrueBlueSonicFan Still, she can't see his eyes when his mask is on. And the joke was that she had seen Bruce's eyes before Tony's.
Words from Edna Mode "No Capes".
would batman beyond count? he doesn't wear tights technically, and he kind of has a cape, but the white eyes and no trumks are a yes
+Daniel Allen He has "wings" between his arms and ribs, but pretty sure he doesn't have a cape ... and sorry, but even though it's lined with electronics, he's still wearing tights.
+Daniel Allen He doesn't wear tights but his costume is skintight, and he doesn't wear cape, he just has wings as a kind of webbing under the arms.
+Daniel Allen The term "tights" doesn't refer to Spandex or Nylon or any type of material, it refers to the fashion. So a skin-tight pair of leggings or unitard or just a leotard are still "tights".
+Benjamin Abruzzo I mean, tights are an actual specific article of clothing, but I agree that the intent of the "no tights" thing is to avoid skin-tight clothing in general. He is correct, though, that Terry technically doesn't wear tights.
In either case, the wings are not a cape, for sure, and they are actually one of the few things that I would buy the aerodynamics argument on.
+Daniel Allen Jane Foster Lady Thor
capes aren't aerodynamic, they are iconic.
not everything has to be utilitarian
I think The Question has one of the best designs in all of comic books. Whether The Question is female or male, The Question has loose fitting clothes, no trunks, his trench coat acts as his cape, and his blank face goes that one step further with regard to the white eyes. He or She is really a brilliant example of a normal person waking amongst the giants.
Rorshach has a better design IMO. I know he is base ins on the question but he looks way cooler. His mask is way too cool, but I agree that the question has a good design.
+Conrad Korbol This. Even ignoring Rorschach's excellent characterization, his character design is one of my favourite comic book character looks of all time
I dunno, I do really like Rorschach and his steez, but at the same time, his design is a bit busy. I like The Question's character a tiny bit better and he's the perfect balance of iconic simplicity. They both seek truth, but I feel The Question is a better symbol of the people, his blank visage holding the infinite masses who desire justice and truth in a world that has wronged them.
+TheRealVastile well Rorsach is almost a parody of The Question. His design is almost the same but if we are flaking about iconic Rosach's mask is one of the most iconic images in comic book history. Don't get me wrong I like The Question, but Rorsach looks alittle but cooler, but I can understand preferring the simpler design
+TheRealVastile
Gotta say, those trenchcoats do a fantastic job at projecting the air of mystery without the imposing raw power that capes project. Maybe I watch too many detective films or something, but it seems like a trenchcoat makes a hero seem automatically 20% cooler.
Funny how round about 75% say "Not tights" but the majority of heroes actually wear tights. Exspecially the very famous ones. (Flash, Green Lantern, Classic Superman, Classic Batman, Spiderman, Captain America, the X-Men)
Heroes like the Phantom, the Shadow, and the Blue Beetle are pulp era heroes.
***** For the day and age, I actually like those three more then I did Batman, way more interesting. Modern day Batman is way more interesting, but I have no idea how his earlier version outlasted any of those other characters (Blue Beetle was a knock off of Batman).
daredevil bitch
Devil of Hell's Kitchen Daredevil is from the 60s, all the heroes we are talking about are from the 30s?
***** Even has a very similar back story.
+Dorian Lang (RangerXML)
Incorrect. Daredevil was created by Jack Binder and first appeared in Silver Streak Nº6 in September of 1940 and it was revamped by Editor Jack Cole. By July 1941 Lev Gleason publications launched Daredevil's main series with art by Jack Biro which would last for little over 15 years until September 1956.
In the early days of Marvel Comics which as you might presume was a time where Marvel was creating characters at an insane pace to bring as much of a broader audience as possible. At one point Stan Lee had a bet with one of his colleagues about making a superhero that was physically impaired in some way.
They rambled on for a little while and Stan said the most detrimental disadvantage he could come up with was sight, to which his friend replied it would never sell. Stan immediately remembered Daredevil, a superhero he remembered fondly and enjoyed reading.
So he called Biro whom was a close friend of Stan and asked him for permission to use the character's name to which Biro happily agreed. However it was basically a new superhero since the original Daredevil, Bart Hill fought with a Boomerang instead of a Baton and was a mute instead of a blind man.
+NerdSync The Capes could help with flight patterns depending on how its used. An example of this would be if Supergirl gripped the cape while adjusting her flight pattern left or right slightly. This would have the cape act as sort of a parachute catching wind and pulling her body in that direction (allowing her to maintain near maximum speed while making a sharper turn without much effort).
Additional explanation: With parachutes this technique is known as "slipping". It is usually used to slow a jumper by pulling one side of the chute in the direction they are currently going or against the strongest winds. This slows the jumper enough to create softer landing.
Why was there no Edna joke? Like the lady from The Incredibles
There's no reasonable explanation. - Nali
Thanks for replying!
We had already made one in the video specifically about capes, I believe. - Scott
Hunterstorm185 There was refference to her in the cape video I believe
Weighing in on costumes way late but something I've been thinking about over the past few years and watching the dimming slash "more realistic" of costumes in movies and TV, is the "purposes" of costumes.So here are some of my reasons for costume elements.1. Capes like Batman's useful for hiding your shape [camouflage] and making it harder for folks to shoot you when you aren't bullet-proof. And you can use it to whip at foes' eyes, distracting and potentially blinding them for a bit. It's also why a number of early costumed crimefighters used colored smoke when fighting crooks.2. Other colorful capes like Captain Marvel and Superman is designed to attract the eye. This also helps to draw the criminals' eyes away from potential hostages when fights break out. Snappy patter like Ted Cord's Blue Beetle and Spiderman also help in keeping the criminals' eyes on them and not the regular folks around them.3. Cowls: part of the reason for cowls like Batman, Hawkman and Daredevil [besides looking cool] is it helps break up the human head outline, thereby another form of camouflage. Very good for fighting in dim areas like Bats and DD usually do.4. Dark costumes to help blend into the dim and dark areas for sneaking around if your preferred area of crime fighting is night time.5. Colorful costumes to help attract all eyes to you if your preferred fighting time is in bright light or daytime.6. Identification. Everyone knows what a policeman or a fireman looks like due to the uniforms that they wear. A colorful costume basically says "HEY! I'm a person who can help you out when you are in need." Which is one of the reasons I do not like the dimming of costumes nowadays, it is a dimming of the hero as someone you can spot to help you out of a jam.Netflix's Defenders really brought this home to me. Only Daredevil had a costume. Luke Cage isn't any more distinguishable than any other bald black guy wearing a hoodie around Harlem. Great if he is going incognito, not so great if he is trying to let the folks around him know that he is there to help if they need him and to warn crooks from trying to break the law [like why most cops wear police uniforms, because that is the message they are trying to send].So to me, the dimming or realistic costume is saying that we can no longer look to these people for help or to even trust them. One of the reasons I like Superman's trunks, they help break up the blue of his outfit and make him more distinguishable from others. Right now, Superman looks like Cyclops to me, if Cyclops added a red cape and changed his X with an S.
Ghost Rider from Magazine Enterprise comics fits the bill and you can argue that Moon Knight fits the bill as well.
+RamsTheNameCom moon knight wears tights
+TheMrchachalaka he doesn't in the new run. he wears a white suit. although he always has had both rights and a rather pronounced cape, traditionally.
+RamsTheNameCom Moon Knight's clothing isn't considered tights?
Toomus Manley
Ah, I see. Never read any Moon Knight stories so I was curious. Still pretty form fitting for metal though. I guess it's like Gladiator Armour that mimics muscles and that cloth is just reeeeeally tight I guess. lol
Again, never read the comics so I'm just speculating.
+Toomus Manley i though that only his weapons are made of adamantium,and his exo-skeleton armor is made of carbonatium.
how can you guys like comics yet over 70% disagree with the tights??
Team DC because everyone has different visual taste. and like it or nit, we live in era where most people want more realism in their fantasy, and tights do not make since to every character out there. Also, public opinion changes, so one day more people may prefer tights again.
Team DC because who the fuck would fight crime in a customs consisting of a thin material which can easily be torn open (of course excluding any characters with near-impenetrable skin or a superior healing factor)
Das Klown why would you want realism in fantasy? I know the character development, yeah, but why do you want more realism in fantasy?
I was speaking from a general standpoint it seems that a lot of people do. I do as well, I love non realistic fantasy too! I was just speaking more from a standpoint of general audiences from what I have seen. I guess because we have seen recent pieces of media question and point less realistic aspects and traits in superhero stories and even in sci fi. And I know that this approach is for everyone or that it should be. It isn't, and it shouldn't....but that's just the current state of the medium, and that's fine. Plus we still have less realistic pieces of fantasy being made. That won't go away, nor will realistic fantasy. They ebb and flow. Realism may be popular today, more fantastic unrealistic could be bigger tomorrow. It really doesn't matter, Just enjoy what you enjoy and let others enjoy what they enjoy.
I guess so, but i still don't understand why people want to do this. What's next? Martian Manhunter ranting in a "Trump Is Not My President" rally?
The Grey Ghost fits, his eyes are more blue though ;)
white eyes, cape, no tights, no trunks...? Beta Ray Bill....
darcraven01 or Black Panther
Tights
Infinity Charge He also wears tights
@@lebronjim1582 Infamous Ironman
@@mr.infinity123 Black Panther also wears tights. All Superheroes in comics wear tights.
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+rambo G but he has normal eyes
Yellow pijamas with capes doesn't count.
+Aquin true XD
Saitama has been depicted with white eyes, albeit rarely.
Karl Urban is Dredd!! Man he nailed that role and can't wait for him to come back. Come on Netflix and make it happen!
you should talk about japanese superheroes like kamen rider, ultraman and super sentai, and do research as to why they look a lot different than american superheroes
No, keep that thing to the million other CZcams channels dedicated to pretentious pricks.
you mean anime channel's, kamen rider, ultraman and super sentai are live-action, there are not a lot of channels dedicated to those
+Brian Muicey you are right. You rarely see channels or videos about those.
why so salty brah, have a thing against other types of media
+Brian Muicey I don't know Kamen Rider, but Ultraman looks like a silver Spider Man or sleek Iron Man, and most Sentai groups are very reminiscent of various super heroes from golden age and silver age comics.
Don't forget about V for Vendetta. You never see Hugo Weaving's face, but he gives a stand out performance.
Spawn and Jane Foster as Thor kind of have all four.
+Sexy Putin 69 Jane's Thor's design was amazing well-crafted.
+GoodOldPolly Agreed.
+Sexy Putin 69 spawn has tights, or at least a skin-tight costume. jane foster as thor, however, is exactly what he's looking for
+Sexy Putin 69 Jane Foster doesn't have eyes
+Sexy Putin 69 spawn has green eyes and wears tights and im pretty sure chick thor eyes are black
Batman has the best reason for wearing a cape - intimidation.
i think the white-eyes things being bad for cinema has already been debunked with the spider-man films, no need for deadpool to do anything
say what you will about them spider-man was more than able to show emotion in all 5 films and with both directors, creative teams and actors
Spider-Man doesn't have white eyes. They are part of the mask.
Aquin yes, the eyes of the mask
+Iron/Pacifist Yeah, but they are not his actual eyes. They are over them.
Aquin yeah same with the rest of super-hero masks, they have white lenses over their eyes they don't actually have white eyes
+Iron/Pacifist That deppends on the character, but either way, they are mean to look as if the character has actual white eyes. Spider-Man doesn't do it with that intention.
What about Raven
Yeah her costume is so cool!
Female Thor is someone who fits all the requirements.
+RocketDuck why not normal thor?
+Herbert Schmitt He wears tights
+Herbert Schmitt no white eyes
+Herbert Schmitt Normal Thor's helmet doesn't cover his face, Female Thor has nose guard and as a result white eyes.
+RocketDuck How does she not wear tights?
Okay, I do a bit of drawing as an Industrial Designer and have drawn lots of people my entire life, being a comic book fan and what not. I'm not a great artist by any stretch, but I can tell you this, based on the way comic characters are drawn, tights, trunks and white eyes are easier to draw. Based on the process most artists follow. You start with a stick figure like skeleton, you mark out the size of the joints with circles at the elbows, shoulders, hips and knees, and circles for the hands. Then you draw a sort of tube figure by drawing lines between the outside points of the circles. Which sort of give you outline of the character's body. This may even include the lines around the hip area that sort of corresponds to the bottom of the trunks. If you have a character in loose fitting clothes, you then sort of draw the clothes around these very basic lines. Then you erase them.
If the character is in tights, especially in the early days, you could kind of just directly use these outline lines without much modifications because the drawings were less detailed. This meant less erasing and redrawing of lines, instead you just filled in interior details and you could quickly churn out a bunch of panels. Having the trunks in place, also meant you didn't need to erase the lines separating the groin from the legs, which are reference lines you put on the tube figures, for your own benefit as a artist, but usually get rid of in the final drawing.
Then the white eyes also save you a fair amount of work, because when you draw the eyes in, you need to make sure they line up and are looking in the same direction, otherwise they'll look odd to people. It's a small detail, but one that people definitely easily pick up on. Doing it, even when you're practiced at it, could take a few tries requiring a fair amount of erasing, and when working on paper, that might end up ruining a drawing you've spent a long time on. With the advent of photoshop and illustrator this isn't as big a deal anymore, because the drawing can be created digitally and modified as many times as the artist would like.
However, tights, trunks and white eyes definitely would save artists time, especially in the early days of comics, as it would allow them to use lines from early stages of the drawing process in the final drawing without much modification. These days, as leg and arm muscles are precisely detailed when characters are in tights, this doesn't work so much, as those lines need to be redrawn whether a character is in clothing or tights.
You are the best designed super hero scoot 😉
Scoot, the watchful guardian of the nerdsync empire.
+denzel turtur Because he's Scottman..
any first year art student will tell you the Romans directly copied Greek art so close that some statues are can't be distinguished
Stupid question of the day: how does superman USE the bathroom when he's wearing the tights and regular clothes... Or does he just take EVERYTHING off then on again? It just sounds tedious...
Kryptonian don't need to use the bathroom.
I think daredevil has a great design. I love the white eyes, but i love the red eyes for his character even more. I love how they symbolize his blindness.
What about Spawn or Black Panther? Black Panther doesn't have a cape(most of the time) but Spawn actually has a reason for his cape(it gives him his power). Also Spawn probably has one of the best capes in comic books.
+Radspakr Wolfbane lol
+Radspakr Wolfbane But is Spawn's uniform really tights? It's not clothes, it's a goo that wraps his body so would that count?
+Radspakr Wolfbane spawn has green eyes anyway
Radspakr Wolfbane even if it's not made of a real fabric both the symbiote and spawn wear skin tight suits so they are still like batman flash or black panther's suits
Thomas Pierce
Green or white, it's more the menacing concept of the pupiless eyes that matter than the color. And yes, the matter that envelops Spawn is still debatable on whether or not it counts. I'm giving the color a pass because it has the same affect as white. The tights thing is a matter of whether wearing tights is an outdated concept because it references strong men from the 1930s which is something irrelevant for modern times. Having a sort of living goo on your body is outside the datedness of the tights so... does it count?
The Phantom Stranger fit the description when his trenchcoat was replaced by a cape early in the series, and in the same issue they started whiting his eyes, although it didn't remain that way with any consistency.
Issue #4
How about She-Thor? Her eyes are white, right?
White, right. White, right. White, right. White, right. White, right. White, right. Sigh. Nevermind.
lmao you troll
+The Super Nerd Domain Thor, Goddess of Thunder... has black eyes.
So close, though. Honestly, I think she should count. It's more about not drawing their actual eyes than what specific color is used to fill them.
doesnt matter, she still wears tights
Leggings, arguably, but she's mostly wearing what appears to be metal, leather, and loose cloth.
+The Super Nerd Domain She-Thor? Who?
Heroes have capes because it helps convey movement on panels. Without a cape, any panel where they're moving through the air would need to have 'whoosh' lines or else they'd just look like they're floating in space.
The Vision meets all those requirements. Those aren't tights he's wearing.
this channel not only makes great videos but is a testament to the legacy of Idea Channel
of course most people would choose no tights when they have to choose between Adam west batman and Christopher Nolan's batman
I choose Adam West
Finn's body language at the beginning of Star Wars VII is distinctive acting that carries his emotions.
Wearing loose clothes is impractical for fighting. Something could get caught on a spike or something.
I am a physicist so one possible explanation for the cape would be that it works similarly to the flights on the end of a dart or arrow. The drag on the end works to give stability for flying straight. I doubt that a cape would really work much in that capacity but there you go.
The Supergirl comment about Aerodynamics is non-sense IMO. She's already very agile and fast. In my own headcanon, the reason for capes (aside from a cultural aesthetic thing) is that the cape provides a greater surface area for her to absorb more Sunlight, because it's a Kryptonian material that lets her body absorb energy like her skin. Also that it can be used to shield people (it's been done a few times in the comics). Think of Superman out in space, absorbing Solar radiation with his cape floating around him, acting as a solar sail so he can recharge more quickly. The impracticalities of a cape are largely negated by Krytonian powers.
+Luis Alarcon Ramos That's... Actually a really good idea, and something I'd never thought about. Yeah, kryptonian fabric would have to be conductive to solar energy, or superman would fight in a g-string instead of his suit. Plus the idea of solar sails is good too, because you see that in both spacecraft and in biology, so the idea certainly has precedent.
+Luis Alarcon Ramos
Even if the cape does absorb solar energy, how is this being transferred to Superman or Supergirl?
Very interesting concept and idea, but sadly it's the cells in Superman's own body that are absorbing the solar energy, the cape plays little part in recharging. Still very good idea though!
+Christopher Chang I know that its his body, but think about it, if his suit can't conduct solar energy, wearing it in combat would be a hazard, as he wouldn't recharge.
+Bennie “Bee836” C They have the same source of power, so what works for one...
I also don't understand the whole aerodynamics cape thing (maybe it helps the air molecules fill in the empty space behind or helps push the air aside) but in the supergirl tv show, both supergirl and superman have bulletproof capes that they use to shield other people from explosions.
+NerdSync
I forget which CZcamsr I learned this from, I even for got the guy they got it from who made it up.
But in reference to the cape... it service no purpose. Besides aesthetic pleasure. Bio-Electric Aura is the official term for how Superman and his cousin power's work.
"Supermans impressive invulnerability is in large part due to his bio electric aura and allows him to survive a supernova unscathed and even more unbelievable with his suit unscathed as well."
So the cape are just for looks if you understand how their powers work... if they understand how they work.
also to distract and or blind the enemy for a short while like batman
+Immanuel M. Eames The Super Aura is supposed to extend a few millimeters over the skin which explains why the capes get pretty destroyed (most of the time) but the suits can still take a beating.... unless we're talking about "Kryptonian Cloth" stuff which is supposed to be more resistant.
+Immanuel M. Eames please look at my comment
+Immanuel M. Eames Just to clarify my comment on the video not your post.
Batman uses his cape for stunning, intimidation, defense, gliding, and many other purposes.
The best costume I always admired was Superman's costume at Action comics new 52. In this first issue, we see Superman in his early years, his costume shows a Superman shirt, jeans, boots (I believe its farm boots or maybe just ordinary tank boots), and red flowing cape. This costume really intrigues me of how it's playful looking and fun to see Superman with civilian clothing with a cape on. It has this old school pulp comic theme, I don't know, maybe its just me, also shows that make believe Superhero we all imagined as a child. It makes me think of my childhood years playing superhero in my living room. Even though Superman doesn't have those masks that covers his eyes with motionless white glares. Without the white eye domino mask makes Superman more friendlier and non-mysterious to the citizens of Metropolis. First Action comics New 52 Superman costume is still cool in my opinion, even with or without the white eyes domino mask.
The Crimson Avenger I think?
The white eyes, are actually an objective thing we can argue in relation to drawing. It's exactly the opposite of what you said. It makes it way easier to have a readable face with simple white eyes in a small drawing than a close up. It's like a good logo design, the mask and face should be easily readable in very small situations, especially seeing that all comics were drawn with a pen in the beginning. It's not as easy to control the ink in detail, being closer to painting than modern ball pen.
Expression of the character is easier to read when you make the shape of the eyes really readable, creating also contrast between the main characters to follow on the page, and the rest.
Trying to draw inside the eye, would just lead to smudging and loss of focus.
Besides the artistic points, you create a clear distinction between the hero persona and his normal everyday life. It's like showing you he/she's in "prey" mode of you will, reminiscent of animals that hunt in the night lurking in the shadows, a clear concept of vigilance transmitted to the reader.
I say
Yes tights
No underwear
No capes (unless you're a flyer)
Yes to white eyes
Capes would go over their head if they were flying.
That is a great description of Spider-Man
S.C.A.B Scab that’s what I thought too lol
Damian when he uses his cape as a fighting tool then
What about Batman tho
One thing about the white eyes, most artists who draw them also draw them with expression. When the character is angry or grinning the shape of the white eyes changes. Batman is the most obvious example of that. Check out a story where he is cross or threatening and the white eyes will be narrowed to slits to help covey the emotion. If they are just part of the mask they shouldn't be able to change.
I think this is why movies have chosen to use the eye makeup to get as close as possible to the comics effect so that the eyes' shape can change but you don't see the skin around them. (Although I always get a chuckle when a hero takes off his mask to reveal a clean face! LOL)
Alex Ross solution is pretty much the same as the movies. Firstly the cowl comes with frown lines built in and those lines are subtly altered depending on the situation. Although he shows normal eyes, there is no skin colour around them. You can't tell where the cowl and mask ends and the skin begins. It flows seamlessly right up to the eyes themselves. (Page 11 of Justice 2 for example)
Best designed character easily spiderman
+So Sophisticated "easily". how is it easily the best designed one? :-D
nudl3Zz In my opinion that is. There was nothing else like it when it came out and so many other costumes inspired by it
+nudl3Zz because they rarely change the design.
Johnreel Good point sure they tweek but they never have to change majorly like batman superman green lantern flash ironman and so on
even the movies use the same design except for the spidey logo So Sophisticated
The capes thing, I think it's like the argument for Superman's undies-on-the-outside, or Batman's chest emblem (the old one with the yellow oval); it's a 'flag' or symbol. It gains enemy attention. Pulls their focus from civilians.
Superman and Supergirl, for instance, are, in MMO terms, tanks. They want the enemy to focus on them while civilians get away. Batman's emblem was explained as, chest armor is the thickest, hardest piece of armor he can wear. The eye is naturally drawn to a bright yellow emblem on the chest, when the rest of his outfit is black/grey, drawing their attention, and as such, their attacks.
Capes could also just be a fashion thing; Thor's cape is a sign of his princely position in Asgard. Storm's funky 90's 'cape' was designed to catch the wind, which allowed her to fly. It gave her stability.
Magneto's cape, I presume would be due to his sense of superiority; generally considered to be a 'royal' piece of attire in elder times, which seems to go with the way he thinks. Some, like Vision, i have no clue. Scarlet Witch; well, women aren't drawn with the most practical of outfits, perhaps her cape, like Emma Frost, were designed to keep her warm on chilly days. :P
Azrael meets all the criteria
I think the trunks are not a bad choice from a design point, because it puts emphasis on the hips and guts that are basically showing the direction the character is going. It the center of gravity of the body and making it more visable may help with readability.
Lots of superheroes or anime characters from stories with action content have some kind colour contrast in the mid area of the body instead of just wearing a monocoloured 'onesie' either with belts or just colour accents or different coloured pants.
It's like giving a character contrast-coloured gloves when you want the reader to look at the character's hands even when the panel is pretty small.
Doesn't Steel fit all those parameters at the end?
One reason there are superheroes who wear tights is the cloth catching objects as they pass by, in particular heroes who move fast and often travel through narrow gaps. I can't tell you how many times I've been stopped by a door handle catching my pocket or T-shirt arm, now imagine Spider-man traveling at 30MPH and a random nail catches the edge of his shirt as he goes by a building.
guys I'm a super hero i need to make a superhero suit
Limiting an actors capacity to represent things with full range is a good way to see how good an actor really is. Adversity is the mother of all invention and in this context, creativity.
It's Thor: aka: Jane Foster!
I absolutely love the New 52 Shazam suit, and Black Adam too
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the whole eyes and acting thing: major props to charlie cox to pulling it off for daredevil- not just when in costume but also when not- even when not in costume he has to wear those glasses.
I know his eyes aren't white, but black, but Vader is a comic book character....
And a protagonist in his own comic book.
+Cave SpiderTen Cape.
Vader has a cape.
Doesn't he wear kind of armoured trunks, or would it be more of a large cup?
I wouldn't really consider him a comic book character as he debuted in a movie not a comic book
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No tights or trunks? You're all philistines.
In some old Iron Man comics, he actually did wear his chest armor underneath his clothes
Am a physics tutor, Capes *DO HELP* with flying in the same way a badminton shuttlecock works, as for cornering, it would directly affect the 'moment' of rotation (the change in momentum from linear to angular, see conservation of energy).
Providing that:
- the forward force is forwards of the torso (why heroes extend their hands up to go up and forward to go forwards.. also thrusting a second hand to go faster)
- the drag force is now further to the rear, near the feet as the largest ruffles of the cape catch the air
This provides the hero an axis to pivot when flying.. the [exaggerated] difference of cape vs no cape, is akin to the batmobile trying to take a corner at speed like a regular car.. OR shooting out a grappling hook to grab something to go around the corner ..
EDIT, the cape would work ALSO as a spoiler ... on the caveat that the hero's chest, pelvis and thighs were smoother than the cape in flight... in other words, they're wearing tights, they don't have large breasts like power girl and the cape is flappy ...
- the disturbed air above the hero would form vertices of turbulent air, the air below would not.. creating a pressure difference, rolling the body to either side, would move the pressure in a banking turn with the hero, allowing for use of the cape as a spoiler in flight. lower air pressure to the hero's back and higher air-pressure to his front... allowing difference to push the hero up in level flight like a regular wing.. or around a corner in a banking turn...
.. if the hero's physique or costume doesn't meet the criteria... there would be no spoiler effect.. only the 'shuttlecock' drag effect
Regarding the throw-away line from Supergirl, she wears a cape because it's what cousin Kal does. I've always figured he keeps it handy to wrap people in for their protection. (Classic image is of him pulling a kid out of a fire, swaddled in his cape.)
On Tights: Superheroes are drawn in tights for a myriad of reasons, actually. For one, it allows exposure of their contours to seem "more powerful and well-built" than ordinary people. Second, while drawing it allows the artist to depict the character in the most dynamic and action-oriented pose possible, and the forms can allow for the most expressive gestures that no-tights alternatives may not have.
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Sandman(Wesley Dodds) costume has got to be one of my favorites. I creepy gas mask, a fedora, a dark brown suit jacket. Seriously underrated.
About the white eyes, we've seen in Deadpool that it doesn't limit the actor's performance... they made the mask very expressive, so he does act with his eye area too. In drawing, it doesn't matter because you can make it expressive too.
I think that's why they would always have Spider-Man's mask ripped up by the end of the older Spider-Man movies. It allowed the actor to emote more without being covered up by the mask since there was really no real world explanation to his eyes being able to move like the comics. What I like about the AI suit in Homecoming is that it gives the suit a logical reason for having the moving eyes.
As an artist myself, I can safely say that tights would be WAY easier and -perhaps more importantly for the artists- faster to draw than loose fitting clothes.
When you draw loose clothes you always have to start with the body underneath and add on to it, something you don't have to worry about with tights.
(Plus there's the whole not having to draw detailed feet or bulky shoes. Which is always a plus. xP)
A cape may give the hero a better form factor. Yes, there's more skin friction due to the increased area, but a better form factor would give the hero less overall drag, and it's the overall drag that's important. For instance, the hero with a cape more approximates an aircraft with a delta-wing, a configuration particularly suited for supersonic flight.
Having a good form factor is important for supersonic heroes because the less energy the heroes put into flight, the less damage their sonic booms do. (The energy of the sonic boom comes from the energy the hero uses to maintain speed - the less energy they spend doing that, the better.)
Spawn has a Cape doesn't really wear tights has white eyes and doesn't always have trunks boom nailed it
flyingcolors28 except his eyes are green
Conrad Veidt does an amazing job acting with just his eyes in the 1928 film "The Man Who Laughs."
I feel like the only reason people would wear capes wouldn't be a science reason, it'd be a feedback reason.. like the human body isn't very good at being able to ascertain which direction it's going at higher speeds but it also probably would be really disorienting to be facing the wrong way.. with the cape, even if they get hit or they change direction suddenly they can always at least get instant feedback about their current directional momentum, which I imagine would be helpful for catching yourself midair in the precise way that all flying heroes do so effortlessly.. or at least that's how I've always viewed it, like you focus your mind on flying away from wherever the fabric is tugging in order to help practice and maintain your orientation
I think the white eyes, particularly throughout the Golden, Silver, and Bronze Ages, when the printing and paper were less refined, made a character's eyes easier to see, in wide shots. It gave their expressions a more open look, whereas a pupil, when the eye is surrounded by a dark mask, could blot out the whites of the eyes almost entirely in action panels. Even when the coloring WASN'T misaligned.
And the fx they're using now, for characters like Deadpool and MCU Spidey, have been able to negate the "expression-limiting" downside to white eyes on big screen heroes.
Minor nitpick from a different nerd-sphere: Spoilers on cars don't create downforce (or at least, not on purpose). Spoilers reduce turbulence in the air behind the car, which reduces drag. In most cars this is done by the trunk, taking the downward-moving air from the back window and directing it straight back - but if your car has a fastback or hatchback the spoiler is there to do that job.
By reducing drag, a spoiler can make a car go faster - but most spoilers on the cars you see driving around reduce drag in order to improve highway fuel economy.
To create downforce, you need a _wing_, which (a) sits higher to collect more air, (b) has an airfoil shape, and (c) has an angle of attack that generates downforce.
As for the physics, I wouldn't bother since Supergirl flies via unexplained not-magic-we-promise anyway.
I think the difference in between eyes being covered or not and how it affects the actor, is that it depends on how the character is going to be filmed/imaged. Mostly close in? Stunts? Simple physical presence on stage? Some actors are better at showing the full emotional range on their face alone. Some are better verbally.. and some are better physically. Hell, Darth Vader had an actor for EACH of those aspects! David Prowse (Basically height and stage presence), Bob Anderson (stunts), James Earl Jones (Voice).
That is part of the reason why Darth Vader is so iconic! 3 Masterful performers in their own rights, the best of each all to show one character that makes him far more memorable than most of the rest of the star wars universe, in total.
Fins on the back of the boots should solve the turning problem(if there is one). Capes would not only create drag but serve as a vacuum if the hero is going fast enough. The capes do create a sense of present whether it be glory (superman), fear (batman), symbolize royalty (thor), or have another function (enhancing powers, concealment etc.).
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Supes' red trunks are camouflage for his junk. Red cape creates a large red field behind him, the blue suit areas are highlighted by their contrast, and even more highlighted is his chest with the huge symbol on it. But the red trunks blend right into the red of the cape creating near invisibility for his no-no zone. Basically, Supes doesn't care if you sniper him in the chest, arms or legs, even head but he is gonna try and make it difficult for you to shoot him in the balls. They may be invulnerable, but that'd still sting like a mofo!
I read somewhere that capes were used to help the reader know which direction the character was flying the panels.
The capes are used in the art to depict motion in a static image. With a character like Thor, he would just be a horizontal figure in the air while a character like Spidey doesn't need a cape because of the way his body contorts while swinging.
the phrase "Greco Roman" fits quite good in to this Greek/Roman thing, considering the styles overall are quite similar on the early history before a more "pure" Roman influence took hold.
My thought on white eyes is it's like cartoon characters wearing white gloves. They're the best contrast against what is usually a dark form/costume.
.....and As for your (No tights, no trunks, white eyes, and a cape.......Well, You won't be familiar with this character yet because I haven't finished doing the comic, but I created a character who has ALL of this criteria down and you're gonna love him.
Mister E (another member of The Twelve) has the same costume, basically, as the Phantom Reporter, so he qualifies, too.
I was going to say Spiderman Noir, but he has no cape. NO CAPES.
The OG design of Crimson Avenger. :) Then they re-designed him, took away the cape and gave him tights... kept the white eyes though!
in which I thought are
batman from the new 52 with the armor looking suit
and the bat armor from batman the dark knight returns(batman v superman)
she-thor(jane foster)
spawn