Datto's Thoughts on the Final Shape Showcase and Reveal
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The finale is upon us. Today, Bungie revealed more about The Final Shape expansion along with some hints at what is coming beyond that. Let's go over all the new things we learned and what I think about them.
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@@johnsmithson4479 he forgot to pin this
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Question, can you still unlock the exotic 'Tessellation' if you dont pre-order?
Right guys???????????????????????????
Somewhere in Australia, Jez is thrilled to hear that your levels are now his and he can play this game even less between vids
This was the comment I was looking for and also the first thing that came up my mind when I heard about the power level adjust hahaha
jez is now offcicially only playing d2 when with datto
Plot twist: Datto will take it easy and not level up nearly as much
dudes literally only going to play destiny now when hes called for, for a video
The Taken King in D1 was a great example of defeating the "final boss" in the campaign, while still providing a BIG BOSS experience in the raid. I hope its something similar in TFS.
This is speculation and theorycrafting, but imagine if the reason we fight him in the raid is because we defeat him in the campaign, but fail to stop his plan, and the raid is more of a vengeance from our part for whatever it's plan ends up doing.
@@voltus20isn’t this whole campaign already literally this lol, we failed in Lightfall.
@@voltus20they straight up said the Witness is the raid boss
They confirmed witness will not be a “final boss” similar to oryx, they are defeated in the raid
@WendlerTV Oryx is also defeated in the raid though. For all we know, we'll beat the witness in the campaign and then he'll power up with the veil or something.
My assumption is that cayde is recreated by the traveller because he was such a prominent part of many of our lives, since the pale heart is creating or being transformed into stuff from our past(i know this is a reach cuz terrain and an exo are very different things)
I'll take that a step further to say "Cayde" is an avatar of the will of The Traveler. He'll look, act, sound like Cayde, but I'm guessing he's going to provide insight as to the 'why?' questions we have about The Traveler and all that happened. Or not...
I've been thinking the same thing. And, no, I wouldn't call it a stretch. Just because they said The Traveler is recreating areas we've seen, that doesn't mean it can't recreate the people from our past as well.
@@nathanw2775that or all dead Guardians go into the Traveler spiritually, which the implications of that is much crazier
@@jaredtherock5692 having a avengers moment where all the cool dead characters from the lore show up to assault the spire would be the best thing they have done in the franchise
@Daxel134 let me see that Dregen Yor come back from the dead to be a problem
My guess would be that the campaign ends with players trapping or weakening the Witness somehow, so that we still know that he's been prevented from doing whatever villainous stuff he wanted to do -- and then the raid will be more like "finishing him off."
Weird analogy: like in _Modern Warfare 3,_ where the second-to-last mission is you rescuing the Russian President and stopping Makarov's faction from controlling Russia so that you can stop the ongoing war -- and then the last mission is you hunting down Makarov after the war has been stopped, and he's still trying to escape.
That’s very much how The Taken King worked as well.
That's probably how they're going to handle it - stop the Witness from executing its plan first, then track them down and make sure they can't do it again.
I personally wouldn't hate a scenario in which the witness is dead, but the whole world is still in ruins. So over the seasons you still have plenty of threats, but the world is slowly recovering
Another thought is that we kill the physical form of the Witness preventing him from wtinessing, and then the raid is killing off any remnant of him that exists. Kinda like killing the Siva generator and then the siva monster Aksis in Rise of Iron.
@@rockardist well let’s not forget the world of Destiny has always been the ruins of the Witness’s pursuit. Our guardian has never known a universe that wasn’t almost completely devoid of life because of the campaigns of the Black Fleet.
"We don't need a beach episode! The witness is literally out here witnessing things" killed me. thanks for the info datto loved your work since d1!
And then he Witnessed all over the place
I’m actually really excited about a campaign without “gimmicks.” I think the best stories in destiny never tried to forcefully incorporate new gameplay elements.
Note: The new Warlock Super is called “Song of Flame”, a reference to an old D1 Solar Perk of the same name, where casting Radiance gave your allies increased damage.
yes, but pretty sure song of flame reduced ally ability cooldowns not damage
@@tankingkinga.ka.re5megamon909 yeah op is dumb
So no Phoenix rez😩
I’m not surprised if that’s the case, but that’s the only part of radiance I liked
@rgnszeb123 dude self rez would break any semblance of what this game is. It's been out since the beginning of d2 and literally every encounter,area,raid,strike,pvp are all made with the assumption that people can't self rez anywhere and everywhere. Do you remember how much shit self rez broke in d1? I don't want 2 months of lfgs just being "self rez only kwtd"
@@catfoodtesterSimply create a warlock 💀.
Nah, but fr. I'd be fine with doing self rez radiant all the time lol, but I get that'd get super old, especially when all the other raid/dungeon lfgs will want warlock only pretty much
Their description of Cayde being your “Virgil” for the campaign, makes me think that Cayde is going to end up disappearing at the end, and him being present was effectively the traveler’s last way of helping us win…
the new light class supers look awesome, but i would love to see stasis and maybe even strand get some similar love, some more supers for the darkness subclasses as well!
It’s really sad that it’s just 3 supers in total, where none of the other light subclasses for each of the classes gets another super…feel like that should’ve been addressed first before darkness subclass supers but eh, Bungie
maybe in the next year's expansion, a bigger focus on darkness stuff, story and gameplay wise, new subclass etc
I heard someone say that the new light subclasses are a filler for the specific element that is missing a third variant when Light 3.0 was released. Noticed that Titans are missing a third void, warlock for solar and hunter for arc. I thought that was understandable. Maybe we will get darkness subclass later in the episodes. I know it’s a bummer cause I was hoping for new darkness subclass. But oh well I guess lol@@AnEclecticMind
@@3IRDDYthat doesn't make sense.
Arc warlock only has 2 supers, same for solar and arc titan.
The only class that would have 3 supers on all light subclasses is hunter.
would've rather a new stasis super than literally radiance again
Yeah, it seems Cayde is gonna be a memory same as the landscape, which makes me think he'll be unable to leave the traveler. Probably gonna be the destination vendor
What they did show of The Final Shape looked pretty great. But it was just not enough to get me fully excited..
Exactly nothing really bad but nothing good. It’s just there. As a warlock I’m a little extra jaded by getting nothing new but other then that nothing new is there. I’ll just wait for reviews
No new enemy species was a huge miss
@@thenedsmmachannel8970subjugators??? Yes rhulk was one, but until now weve only interacted with one of them
@@thenedsmmachannel8970why were you expecting that?
@rexthewolf3149 finally facing the witness and big finale of light and dark saga... we haven't gotten a new enemy race in 8 years and the community has been asking for a new one for years. Pretty obvious tbh why it's expected
honestly speaking im skeptical of how bungie will handle the new location, if the pale heart is to be made up of familiar areas i hope they do more with it visually then just nostalgia bait and visual recycling, it does seem to be that what with the statue motif’s around the pale heart, i hope its to the level beyond the dreaming city was when forsaken came out
From how Bungie made it seem the pale heart will start with that nostalgia bait but as you progress through the campaign you enter more and more of the witnesses area
They won’t. The only reason the destination looks like this is to solely reuse assets. Wouldn’t want to ‘overdeliver’ or anything like that lmao.
@@Vin_Venture896 Can you cynical assholes just stop talking? Lol. If you hate this shit so much why do you watch everything and make the same NPC comments everywhere?
@@Vin_Venture896Riiiiight. Do you enjoy being this much of a bitter person?
Oh literally saw the location in the showcase
thank you datto for releasing my feelings on the showcase
thank you zenn for leaving an original comment
@@huh3202thank you huh3202 for releasing my feelings on this comment
As usual the Destiny community can't think for themselves so they get *-insert pedo youtuber here-* to make their mind up for them
@@Kill3r55_Thank you for thanking the comment that thanked the comment that the original comment thanked datto for releasing his feelings on the showcase
@@Red-wh1oqthank you for releasing my feelings on the health benefits of repetition and consistency.
People saying no new subclass didnt get the connection with the Episodes color code...... Red is EPISODE 1 being instantly after Final Shape , Blue (Stasis) EPISODE 2 , and EPISODE 3 is GREEN FOR STRAND.
So if no 3rd final subclass in the Final Shape the supers would legit be incomplete so i expect it to come afterwards, either in Episodes releases or D3...?
This is the first time I have thought about it but what if we don’t win or at least not fully? The Witness being able to at least partially reshape things would really open the door to epilogue and brand new stores.
Destiny ends after the last dlc. Dev will probably work on making old last gen content available but the story will end.
@@phifan-mia1503the light & dark saga will end.. then after a break filled with those new episode model they will prob continue and do a new saga
Personally I think a really sick continuation into the story post-final shape would be to go out of Sol and start undoing the damage the Witness wrought to other worlds, kind of like what the Traveler was doing before it got cornered. Restoring Riis and Torabatl, visiting the lost ruins of ancient civilizations- I think that would be pretty damn cool considering how awesome their alien worldbuilding is already and how well it would fit into the concept of rebounding and rebuilding from the verge of tragedy.
And also I really want to see more alien cities. Who can blame me? They're cool!
Except...there won't be any post TFS stuff.
Well, Caital did initially want to induct the Guardians for a campaign to reclaim Torobatl.
@@cehaem2 They said that it's the end of the first saga of Destiny, which implies to me that there's more going on
lol what thats directly counter to what bungie has said@@cehaem2
@@ruthlesslistener if they had plans to continue with D2 then these would have been revealed. A few years ago B said another game set in the Destiny universe was possible.
Reminder that every expansion we got Light based supers like The Taken King and Forsaken were bangers, Bungie might be cooking with The Final Shape.
They mentioned in the post show stream that red death might be solar now as well
Cayde will undoubtedly be the Vendor for this year. I also suspect the 'linear' destination will be bubbles representing a recycled / remixed area from Destiny past. These will be unlocked with campaign progression, or ... god forbid, with a weekly lockout. and yeah the final bubble will likely finish the loop so we can eventually experience it as a normal destination.
I'm honestly delighted about the seasons shifting to 4 months and would have even liked them to be 6 months. Controversial but ... I'd also like the Seasons to drop four months into release rather than when the main expansion drops. I always thought it was messy to have a season story drop with the main expansion and completely muddle the storytelling.
As a linear story, I do agree that seasonal stuff dropping with expansions can be jarring. But from an overall narrative perspective, it gives the feeling of a more dynamic world. One set of characters focuses on the expansion story while another set focuses on a different but still aligned goal.
Well normally the season ties into the expansion it launches with. Lightfall season revolved around rescuing pows after the witness invades sol
I mean people already complain about the game being stale in the last month of a season do doubling the size of a season would just lead to even more complaints tbh so I think the episodes system is a good compromise between longer seasons and the system we have now, I’m super curious to see how they play out though
I actually genuinely despise both the thought of and the implementation of Season's dropping on Day One of an Expansion's release.
A) It's double-dipping, which is greedy as fuck.
B) Just to reiterate, it's double-dipping, which is greedy as fuck.
No, but serious reasons that aren't just related to money...
You cant really launch a gimmicked season like "Season of Mardi Gras" on the same day as a _serious_ expansion, so, you end up with "Season of the Season", the most _Destiny_ of Destiny Seasons.
One simply detracts from the other, no matter which way in your head you have it.
One overlaps with the other. What is expansion and what is season? Was this thing I did for Mara Sov part of the seasonal story or the expansion?
One outvalues the other. Well, I mean... I got my new subclass for £40... but all the good weapons and activities are in the £10 season.
Every single new expansion release, do you FEEL (important to note this is down to FEELINGS rather than actually sitting down and counting) that you get MORE out of the first season of an expansion, or do you FEEL like they've put 50% into the expansion and 50% into the season to come up with 100%?
So... TLDR...
Give OP what he wants! Drop Seasons 4 months into the release of an expansion.
@@J-manli that would be the case IF we weren't involved with both parties. Like, on one hand we (in lightfall) had osiris throwing at us the epic "i dont have time to explain why i dont have time to explain" on the other hand we are chilling on earth rescuing civilians. Like... sorry but if we fuck this up there will be no civilians to save at all, I think there is a very visible priority here.
It'd be great/funny if Cayde and Uldren end up really hitting it off and develop a good cop/bad cop duo, I want this so badly
They would probably flip a coin to see who takes what role each time.
I hope final shape is delivered well for all its fans and for you Mr Datto. You’ve been making enjoyable content for us for a long time and a nice send off for the game that you’ve helped us out on with your videos, is what you deserve. Much thanks Datto ❤
Lmao it's not a send off though
Lol I should have said for this chapter in Destiny
@@jeffw3905it's likely a sendoff expansion as Bungie starts to focus all in on marathon and the new IP ( resources wise )
Destiny will still get content but I think expansions are gone and it's gonna be episodes from here on out
Destiny makes a lot of money and is used to fund new projects, and it will continue to get support for many years cause it's still very important
😂🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
I would love to see them reassess the content striken from the game to present it in a way for everyone to be able to go back and play. :)
These are my exact thoughts Datto, thanks for sharing them online :)
I'm so excited for dragons breathe! I've been wanting it in D2 for so long!
I just hope the nostalgia ain't just some dangling keys and "oh remember that you loved that so you should love this expansion!" And is handled real well
Also this new season better not kill Xivu Arath off I will be more than angry if that happens.
They did it with quoria and no idea why we need to have xivu held for final shape. They've already made it clear form last seasons and years that people like conclusions to events that aren't just delegated to raid only.
Xivu might be the next expansion after Episode Heresy.
@@JustadadonthetokQuria is a fucking Vex mind she's nowhere near the level of a hive god who have been for the longest time the most interesting characters in this game
Quira was cool I liked Quira but to compared Xivu to her is complete BS the more comparable option is Xol but even he got an expansion.
what why? She should be killed this season lmao. What are you waiting for?
@@lilbu223maybe, but we don't know I would hope she lives on but the constant talk about her death is worrying.
Incredibly happy the Witness is the raid boss
I mean it had to be right?
Cayde will probably not return permanently as a vanguard, but instead he will be the vendor of the Pale Heart. A vendor on a destination must be someone who can stay there and whom we can feel some connection too while being sort of a guide for the story. Cayde is probably not fully alive, but does exist inside the traveler through his connection to the light. Besides, who else could be the vendor of the location? a random ghost/guardian? A manifistation of the Pale heart? No, Cayde wouldn't be back just to be cutscene material nor will he be permanently back, so this role fits him perfectly.
I’m in a hotel and normally watch vids with sponsorblock on but I’m so glad I saw Datto’s Manscaped ad 😂
I enjoyed what I saw, only thing that I’m curious about is the story, I have no idea how hard they are gonna lean on nostalgia for the dlc so it may or may not be a problem.
I know this is contrary to what the leaks say, and might be unpopular, but I really hope at some point in the future we get a expansion or episode that focuses on all the non-city aligned human factions, maybe with a non violent or violent conflict with Lysander and the Concordat
Oh man that manscaped ad was glorious haha 😂 well done.
7:04 excellent.
Tbh, I was hoping that the traveler pulled a Valhalla type situation, where it anticipated what the witness was gonna do, and that all past guardians that had died were inside the traveler, ready to fight off any intruders.
Hope that void titan super is good, it'd be nice to use that class in a raid setting again
I honestly doubt it would beat Divinity/Ghally and precision heavy/rocket spam.
@@frostmourne1986the super is a one off super, why bring up weapons? They were talking about super viability among other supers.
@@voltus20using supers that don't do alot of damage worsens your overall damage output compared to if you just continued to spam rockets/gjally with tractor.
...since when did people stop playing bubble titan in raids? granted idrk about the raids new to D2 cause i genuinely can't care about them or be bothered to do them, but any time i've ran VoG or king's fall in d2 there's been at least 1 bubble titan
@@swaggymungdaal Well of Radiance gives a higher damage boost than weapons of light, the higher buff takes precedence so bubble gets cancelled out.
Can't wait to see all that new Eververse content
That Manscaped ad was surprisingly entertaining, I didn’t even thought about skipping. Well done sir, well done.
Once world’s first Witness raid clear is done I imagine they’ll just launch a cutscene to explain it to all of the non-raider’s…🤷♂️
a little sad theres no real no stasis subclass stuff.
light subclass updates are cool but i wish we had some new stasis supers
just a shout out about the support guns, if im interpreting the designs of them correctly, theyre going to have the little hearts on them with the red and white colour scheme, like the AR does which is why i think the shotgun the hunter is holding in the same clip may also be a support weapon, just a hunch though
The inside of the traveller reminds me of some of the annihilation movie style
Also! The remaster of the ending cutscene for forsaken was pure magic. Loved it!
I'm curious about the episodes, but I am very happy with what we saw. o
On Paper, the episodes seem very good anyway.
Also, Joe mentioned in the Post show that Radiance does NOT bring back Self res.
I was searching for this because I figured it was mentioned. I want Phoenix rez so bad but I knew they wouldn’t bring it back😩
I'm happy that it ain't coming back. Trials is fucked enough@@rgnszeb123
I saw the new subclass leak but it totally left my mind while watching the showcase
I think Cayde is a reflection of a collective memory from Ikora, Zavala, and our own guardians and a touch of paracausal Traveller magics.
It reminds me a lot of the feel they went for during the red war which had that “we gotta go” drive to it
I love the light, but I’d really like it if we got new darkness supers. There’s been one stasis super per subclass since it launched, and I was kinda disappointed that strand only had one per as well.
Some sort of ruby red darkness would be fire
5:24
I spit my drink out😂
Is someone gonna make a compilation of all the funny noises they make while talking about our powers? They always do it in the reveals and its funny as fuck 😂
I swear at some point I'm going to be dreaming and datto is going to spontaneously appear with a sponsor segment in my dream
The destination has my hopes pretty high because it looks phenomenal, but I will say im slightly concerned that we aren't getting a new subclass OR a new enemy faction. Real missed oppurtunity there.
It wouldn't track with the timeline of subclass releases that bungie does for destiny. It would be a ton of work making a new subclass just as they released strand in the previous expansion. I wasn't expecting a new subclass as it just seemed unrealistic. However, I look forward to using the new supers.
@@bigfella6719when you consider that strand was probably meant to release with witch queen (straight after beyond light) as seen with the strand symbols on the destination armour and ‘green’ being a big theme, it wasn’t too far fetched to hope for a new one.
@@bigfella6719and? This is the final expansion of the light and darkness saga- one would assume we’d complete the set of darkness subclasses to match the light ones.
@willhardy9731 if bungie introduced a new subclass two expansions in a row, I'd imagine that we'd get another lightfall. I would rather get some cool new aspects and supers with the campaign being good than a bad campaign with a new subclass.
This is the final part of the light and darkness saga. I hope they prioritize the story and gameplay over new powers.
might happen. We dont know a lot about post TFS campaign, maybe new subclass is hidden there?
So cool that they are giving the age of triumph crota armour
13:08 Twilight Arsenal making enemies volatile is probably coming from the Controlled Demolition aspect
I guess we could call this video
The final opinion
(Though we all damn well know this won't be the final opinion video we all love these)
I really hope that hunter aspect does more than just amplify you
Exactly what i was hoping
There better be a episode resolving the dreaming city's curse
3:54 FINALLYYY
Like Lightfall, I will hold out and wait to see. Every fibre of my being wants Destiny to be amazing, but after their talk where they literally said they don't prioritize quality, I just can't invest any more money in this universe. For a game that has such expensive monetization, customers should be getting quality AND regular updates.
The showcase was good. Its not good enough for me to buy into TFS, Joe and team need to do something they said they wont, Overdeliver. The only way to see that is post launch reviews and community feedback.
The manscape ad got me dying at work 🤣🤣
I have a feeling they're gonna do a thing where you don't kill the witness in the raid, but rather mortally wound it, and it boots you from its monolith, then at the next weekly reset there's a new 6 (or 12) man matchmade activity that's just a huge final boss fight with the witness where we as a community finally put it down for good
The content after final shape is kinda trickey. If they introduce an other really big bad it's gonna be like: "I know you just saved reality itself in the most elic way ever, but this is even sorse" but if it's smaller stakes you're just gonna sit in the eliksni quarters, wondering how it came to all this
I feel we will get that red subclass still, maybe after we defeat the witness in the raid or campaign, defeating him and then unleashing the darkness
No shot. If they had a new subclass they would 100% show it. Subclasses are half the gameplay besides guns
@@geraltrivia9565except they don’t they didn’t show the new supers from taken king coming to d2 and they never showed the dreaming city off either for forsaken
yeah crota coming back is cool, need those old school datto challenge runs though
3:03 depending on how spamable that is, it could be CRAZY good
Honestly, my biggest concern with the "Episodes"? Their infographic implies they're gonna be selling a seperate "battle pass" for each 6-week act (every one of them shows the icons for "Pass Rank" and "Pass Rewards", if you look closely), and if they aren't changing pricing that'll mean double the purchases required to play all the content (4 now vs maybe 9 soon). Now, if they *actually* deliver on the promise of "more content" - great!... Just not sure if their recent statements inspire full confidence in that idea, not to mention we'll have to see if this still keeps the time-limited nature of current seasons (as in "oops, new expansion is out, time to flush all this stuff down the toilet!")
No there is one battle pass per episode. It has 100 tiers in Act 1, then 50 more added each in 2 and 3.
Maybe listen to what they explained about them before spreading misinformation.
All 3 acts are part of one "season", sold just like they are now, they just unlock aditional ranks and rewards (50 extra ranks on act 2 and 3 after act 1's 100 ranks) every act, to a total of 200 ranks, which also allows them to put more stuff in the rewards.
In terms of supers i think warlocks is kinda eh compared to the others i personally found radience boring but the changes to it seems cool from the little bit that was shown
I'm thinking that Cayde is gonna be an echo recreated by The Traveler, much like how it recreated old destinations, so if he does stay forever, it'd be like a permanent fixture inside the pale heart.
To be honest. Not going to preorder most likely snag up a copy after release. I seen the presentation but did not get exited to make a purchase right now.
My theory is that we’re still getting that Red subclass but that’ll come after the raid. Maybe in place of an exotic weapon, we get the red subclass from the Witness
That would be cool but is probably an overdelivery.
Absolutely no way they’d lock a brand new subclass behind a raid. Not a chance.
Anyone who thinks a new subclass is coming is coping; it's a core value proposition to market so it would be silly to keep it hidden (unless bungie is trying to create a facade where they look like they are overdelivering in the last exp.)
@@Djitterbug they locked strand behind the worst campaign ever so it’s possible
@@606films9 campaigns are accessible to everyone. It’s not the quality of the content it’s the type.
Honestly, no 3rd darkness subclass is ok. But only 3 new supers, and for light of all things is what rubs me the wrong way. We should've at least gotten 1 new stasis and maybe even strand super as well. Forsaken had 9 new supers for each light subclass, bungie could've at least done that with 2 new dark supers and 1 light per class. The new weapon archtypes look cool too, but otherwise the final shape doesn't really seem to be bringing much new to the table aside from concluding the story.
3 new supers is literally the same as a new subclass
Possibly, and this is just what I hope for. There's a chance the season before FS, we could get some darkness aspects and supers. Just a little Stasis and Strand love before FS.
Hey man you know their motto now
@@KRIATIBROnah it's different, with a new subclass, they have to create new grenades, melees, class abilities, aspects, fragments, subclass key words and functions
These are literally just new supers tied to the everything that already exists and a new aspect
And another comment mentioned that in forsaken there was 3 new supers per class for a total of 9
@@KRIATIBROexcept no? Lol. A new subclass brings new aspects, new fragments, new buffs debuffs, new element. If you think the only thing that makes a subclass is a super you need to revaluate some stuff
Among all the things they showcased I'm so hyped to see Radiance coming back for Final Shape
I absolutely love sunsinger coming back
Thank god, I was worried they were going to over-deliver for a second there and give us 9 new supers just like forsaken.
I have been out of the D2 gameplay loop since just after the osiris update or whatever, and recently I’ve been getting back into it, just at the end of season 21. I’m hesitantly very excited for the future of this game, and Bungie’s promises seem interesting and Datto’s thoughts have supported my thoughts
this is exactly what happened in lightfall, I have no hope anymore not even from this trailer.
Don't worry, your hopes will be crushed soon enough, they always are.
I always appreciate your view point
i like the number go up grind sometimes
I'm excited to have more things to do with my friends. It's that easy for me, I know not for everyone though. Kinda in an infinity war / endgame mood where I'm just ready to see how it ends so I can move on. Been playing it this long, might as well finish.
Although I’m not surprised I am disappointed that we didn’t get anything beyond 1 new enemy. Even lightfall and witch queen at least had re-skinned cabal and hive, from the looks of it we are just facing more taken/hive + subjugators. I hope that maybe future content can finally introduce a new faction
What "new race" could we possibly encounter here? Nothing makes sense.
@@AstridTheBeeWell, the witness is literally reshaping and remaking things in a "wrong" way, so that's the perfect setup for an altered enemy group like orxy taken where.
@@phoenix9531 an interesting thought, but would be difficult to pull off well
@@AstridTheBee One is expanding upon the tormentor/subjugator enemy type. I'm not sure if they are from the same species or anything but there could have been a few other units to expand upon. On the other hand it would be cool to have some sort of corrupted light-based enemies. The Traveler has some sort of involuntary defensive construct that the Witness has corrupted and turned against the guardian. Again I didn't really expect them to do anything like that but nontheless it would have been a nice change of pace after almost 10 years of no major additions besides maybe the taken and scorn.
@@phoenix9531I would prefer a new faction that is entire new race. All the new factions in destiny have never been entirely new. The taken were enemies from other factions brought into the taken and the scorn are bassicly zombie fallen.
That was the best manscaped commercial!!
Hilarious
Cayde could definitely just be the planetary vendor for the new space
This video got me so excited that, against all odds, I have already formed an opinion.
Not sure about the 3 act episodes tbh, can imagine bungie charging insane money for them.
They're 1500 silver each.
@@user-dd4fv6qj8gyep, so about the same price as current seasons. RN it's 12 each for 4 so 48, then it's $15 for 3 so 45
EACH??
@@nullandvoid7524 Albeit Echoes, the first one, comes bundled with the Final Shape (and it still costs the same amount to buy enough silver to buy either a season pass or one of these Episodes, the 300 silver increase actually doesnt mean anything)
@@nullandvoid7524less than we're paying for the same amount of content now. Three episodes is forty-five bucks, four seasons is fourty-eight.
Calus voice: "At last, my opinion... *has arrived."*
7:03 Jez, he's talking about Jez
It's hard for me to get excited for anything since we're not getting the final darkness element. That's the thing I needed the most to let go of Destiny after the Final Shape. It's been 10 years and I've always wondered what the darkness elements would be. That question has been with me since 2014. I just want to let go. 😮💨
It’s taken goop.
It all looks like what I wanted going into d2.
Shame it took so long to get here, but like, yeah, cool.
Started with taken king but I have not really played since shadowkeep. I might come back for the last hurrah.
The vibe im getting from the look of the pale heart area is KIND OF like revelations from BO3 zombies, an amalgamation of past places/event
I'm excited to have Crota come back as that was my favorite D1 raid.
I used to play swtor. They implemented a feature where you would solo a "raid" with all the NPCs helping out.
Wondering if there is going to be a "raid" final battle where solo players get all the big NPCs to come help
Why stop at solo. Let the final shape raid be 6 people + all the important main cast of guardians participating in a final assault against the Witness. Bungie could even use them for extra mechanics. Things like:
Zavala using a banner shield to help you go across a place that is under constant enemy fire and you have to kill certain enemies/things to stop them from supressing him out of his shield.
Saint creating bubbles to survive certain wipe mechanics.
Feeding light to Ana Bray to overcharge her golden gun to shoot and break an enemy's inmune shields.
Protecting Ikora while she charges a souped up nova bomb/chaos reach to erase a chunk of health from a boss.
Opening a door mechanism to let Saladin, Caiatl and their cabal through to assist with extremely beefy adds, distracting them so the team can focus on the boss.
Powering up Mithraaxx's splicer gauntlet so he can open a huge portal to bring forth a repaired and improved insurrection prime, piloted by Osiris to break down the main gate to the Witness' Monolith, while we protect it by repairing it's weak spots and destroying enemies targeting them.
Helping Cayde and Sloane defeat a huge onslaught of enemies to protect Hawthorne, Devrim, and other militia while they transport special explosives or set up positions to use special weapons in order to permanently kill a boss that keeps reviving.
An encounter where, with the help of Elsie, Crow and Drifter, we fill up a contraption made by the latter to disable the resonance darkness abilities of the zone.
A penultimate encounter where, with the help of Mara and Eris, we debilitate the Witness, preventing him from using his insta-kill abilities from the lightfall cinematics.
And finally, an ultimate face off, mano a mano, against the Witness, in a race to kill him before he recovers his powers (the wipe mechanic) (add mechanics to delay the recovery and mechanics to deal significantly increased damage, ala damage stacks with Savathun's boss fight).
I think it would be cool if the did future episodes around telling the story of things like dredgen yor and stuff like that. Could be cool.
Hard to deny, Warlocks got shafted HARD on that “new” super
As a warlock man I'm very curious to see how the new solar / old solar super holds up in the new sandbox but I'm super happy for Titans thank God they give you a one and done and its cool and unique
P.s they did say with the new/old radiant's super you can spam long-range melee attacks that can scorch stuff and most likely spam healing grenades to without needing a kill once again very curious to see how this holds up
wasn’t really enough for me to justify purchasing, i’ll likely just be waiting for reviews or early impressions to come out for this one
my guy it is still half a year away
@@dovahfruit9503 i mean i understand that but after lightfall plus an entire year of seasons that never brought me back to the game, i don’t think as of right now TFS will. the story seems to be cool don’t get me wrong, but i don’t think the whole package is currently worth the price rn. this is just me deciding what i think my money will be best spent on and rn i don’t think TFS is it for me
@@dovahfruit9503 what does this even mean? This showcase was their big ad campaign for existing players, the release being a few months away makes no difference
@@risk8827 what does this even mean 😭 6 months is a bit more than a few months, and they always share more information as the release gets closer. i dont know what makes you think a teaser showcase should be ones deciding factor in a product that aint even finished yet
@@dovahfruit9503 what would make me think that 😭 maybe the fact that the preorder goes live the moment the showcase finishes? you think Bungie opened the preorder option the same time the showcase ends for fun? what a dumb thing to say
The witness do be witnessing things.
Imagine being in the warlock super and 6 people snapping a raid boss to death with infinite ignitions
Would have loved to see a flaming tornado warlock super
I do feel the final shape Info was almost too vague, but they did say they wanted it to be as much of a new experience as possible.
Hyped For Joe B mentioning crota will be hard and a test to ensure TFS Raid will be difficult!