PM Harold Wilson's advice to the Queen - The Crown S03 E03

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  • The Crown S03 E03
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Komentáře • 728

  • @stevenfoon2194
    @stevenfoon2194 Před rokem +2803

    The actor who portrayed Harold Wilson never seemed to have gotten the credit he deserved. Each scene that he has been in is a great performance.

    • @tomwang3510
      @tomwang3510 Před rokem +26

      I don't think so. This is not Harold Wilson I knew! Harold Wilson was a don at Oxford. I doubt he would behave as timid as that

    • @markwoldin162
      @markwoldin162 Před rokem +35

      I was thinking the same thing. Natural yet idiosyncratic. Brilliant.

    • @sadienbm
      @sadienbm Před rokem +19

      Ya id always look forward for their audience. Their relationship is so interesting and real. ❤

    • @marywenzel3199
      @marywenzel3199 Před rokem +95

      Jason Watkins was the highlight of the season along with Josh O’Connor. At the end of the season when the Queen tells him she’s coming to dinner, his wonder at being selected for the same honor as Churchill is so touching.

    • @pauljackson2473
      @pauljackson2473 Před rokem +48

      Jason Watkins is a very well respected actor. I think he got his due.

  • @leivergara6657
    @leivergara6657 Před rokem +1558

    “We can’t be everything to everyone and still be true to ourselves.”
    Hits different.

    • @ninab.4540
      @ninab.4540 Před 7 měsíci +12

      A lot of vloggers and streamers need to remember that

    • @blaisepotvien2785
      @blaisepotvien2785 Před 3 měsíci +3

      All of Humanity needs to remember that!

    • @pauljordan4452
      @pauljordan4452 Před 3 měsíci +3

      You cannot be everything to everyone otherwise you will be nothing to no-one.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +1

      I was in politics here in the United States for over 20 years. What Wilson said is true. All of the people can never be pleased or appeased. One makes decisions on what would be best for most or would do the greatest good for the area that you represent as a whole.

  • @waveali5620
    @waveali5620 Před rokem +1285

    "Our job is to calm more crises than we create" It's a pity that more politicians don't understand this.

    • @thunberbolttwo3953
      @thunberbolttwo3953 Před rokem +11

      Agreed.

    • @regalecusglesne3022
      @regalecusglesne3022 Před 11 měsíci

      oh no they do understand it perfectly well. the point is that there are so many variables to consider and so many things can go wrong. and besides, those who are incapable of ruling usually are not there thanks to their skills, they're puppets for the real politicians, moving threads from out back.

    • @Ftalmeida73
      @Ftalmeida73 Před 11 měsíci +26

      Those who don't understand this are the common variety of politicians. Those who understand are what we call statesmen.

    • @rolandhawken6628
      @rolandhawken6628 Před 10 měsíci +10

      A greater pity is the population do not understand it

    • @Guy_LastName
      @Guy_LastName Před 9 měsíci

      it's deliberate. if there was no crisis going on (fabricated or natural), people would have too much time to think for themselves.

  • @xcalabur18
    @xcalabur18 Před rokem +1532

    One of the best scenes in the entire series. The actor who played Wilson was phenomenal and criminally underpraised.

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 Před rokem +12

      Indeed.

    • @bambina3148
      @bambina3148 Před rokem +24

      @@johnschuh8616 The brilliant Jason Watkins.

    • @StonyRC
      @StonyRC Před rokem +10

      Ironically, far better known for his exquisite comedy roles!

    • @svartmetall
      @svartmetall Před rokem +4

      He'll always be Herrick from 'Being Human' to me :)

    • @kaederukawa1123
      @kaederukawa1123 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Indeed, an astonishing performance.

  • @iainsan
    @iainsan Před 6 měsíci +195

    His 'Wilson voice' is spot on, even down to the way the PM pronounced certain letters in words. Must have taken a lot of hard work to get it so right.

  • @jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj178
    @jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj178 Před 7 měsíci +189

    Assuring someone that they are not nearly as weird or awful as they have always thought they were, is about as kind a thing that one can do.

    • @evm6177
      @evm6177 Před 5 měsíci

      Yes and also helps to keep your head and your job intact I suppose. Who cares if it's all a lie anyway, there is NO NEED FOR HUMANITY AT ALL AS THE MAN SAID! 🙄 All we have are droids 👑 🤖 👑 doing droid things without any care in the world for humanity now.

  • @novemberalpha6023
    @novemberalpha6023 Před rokem +652

    The actor as PM actually did a great job in portraying an experienced, cool headed, learned yet openhearted diplomat . He took time to choose his words carefully to not contradict with the queen. When the queen is actually sharing her shortcomings, agreeing with her or even staying silent in response would invite queen's wrath. Especially when she is angry with her own self.

    • @novemberalpha6023
      @novemberalpha6023 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@facta-non-verbathank you

    • @kevinallen9414
      @kevinallen9414 Před 10 měsíci +21

      The Queen and Harold Wilson got on very well.

    • @ninab.4540
      @ninab.4540 Před 7 měsíci +11

      ​@@kevinallen9414He was her favourite

    • @g-forcemapping8454
      @g-forcemapping8454 Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@ninab.4540 Churchill was her favourite

    • @jakem3043
      @jakem3043 Před měsícem +3

      Agreed. It’s as if the director told him to act as if his neck is on the line. It’s much more subtle of course. Obviously this queen would and could never do that but I imagine in the Victorian era and prior, servants of the monarch had to be careful with their language as to not offend the frustrated monarch any further. What’s interesting here is the queen is having a rather human moment despite herself not feeling human and the PM is both telling there is nothing wrong with her and that her lack of emotion is exactly what is needed when being queen. Despite his criticism towards the monarchy, he understands the importance in having a head of state that is not frustrated with trivial matters like these.

  • @leewee198363
    @leewee198363 Před rokem +1002

    I love this scene so much. What Harold said about leaders is so profound. Doesn’t matter if these conversations never took place.

    • @patsimpson7834
      @patsimpson7834 Před rokem +3

      Ha ha ha ha

    • @michaelhayden725
      @michaelhayden725 Před rokem

      At one stage in his first term as PM Wilson's whole cabinet appear to be leaking against him. He coined two phrases - a week is a long time in politics. He also stated that the only conversation he knew would never be leaked was the one he had each week with the Queen.

    • @mother3crazy
      @mother3crazy Před rokem +13

      Which they most certainly did not 😅

    • @OnLifeandLove
      @OnLifeandLove Před rokem +7

      Well then, the screenwriters did a good job

    • @TheForkhandles
      @TheForkhandles Před rokem

      Why doesn't it matter?

  • @michaelwear2252
    @michaelwear2252 Před rokem +498

    As I understand it, Wilson was the only Prime Minister she actually liked. They socialised outside of their professional relationship

    • @patsimpson7834
      @patsimpson7834 Před rokem +1

      Ha ha ha ha

    • @utkarshsatish6100
      @utkarshsatish6100 Před rokem +22

      Also John major

    • @saeedseedat9344
      @saeedseedat9344 Před rokem +142

      She adored Churchill, She liked Wilson, was fond of Callaghan and fought and respected Thatcher. She was close to Major and found him loyal to her.

    • @johnmh1000
      @johnmh1000 Před rokem +10

      @@patsimpson7834 ha ha ha what?

    • @patsimpson7834
      @patsimpson7834 Před rokem +12

      @@johnmh1000 I don't always produce words when I laugh but if you insist I had a mental picture of them down the pub.

  • @etiennelabeille
    @etiennelabeille Před rokem +268

    Love the sound engineering. That ticking clock is sublime.

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před měsícem

      We had a brass-faced 8 day clock
      in our front hall,
      and it's tick-tock
      was so restful and constant.
      /

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +2

      @@zen4men We have one over the fireplace in the living room. It chimes and everything. It's been there so long that I don't even notice it anymore. However, it's been known to make people who have been in the house for various reasons jump when it chimes! 😂

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před měsícem +1

      @@retroguy9494
      Nothing like a chime!
      Old clocks are human,
      human-scale.
      New clocks are mass-output factories -
      humanless.
      /

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +2

      @@zen4men I agree with you! 👍

    • @zen4men
      @zen4men Před měsícem +1

      @@retroguy9494
      We face a growing tyranny.
      One that most
      do not know how to face.
      And systems
      going all-out to destroy our way of life,
      and deliver us into bondage.
      /

  • @tipsy9947
    @tipsy9947 Před 8 měsíci +190

    This was really Olivia Colman's greatest scene in this series, and I'm sorry she did not get the Emmy for this episode (though she did the next season). Her visible suffering both when she opens up to Wilson about her inadequacies and then when he gives her advice is so real.

    • @karenlauricella4976
      @karenlauricella4976 Před 8 měsíci

      She’s overrated and not pleasing on the eye

    • @inigobantok1579
      @inigobantok1579 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ironically, the best moments of his tenure as queen in the show are in season 3 where the fans are so divided in the change in cast.

    • @balabanasireti
      @balabanasireti Před 5 měsíci +2

      Award shows aren't important and there were better actors at that year

  • @berka6539
    @berka6539 Před rokem +141

    'They got nothing. I dabbed a bone-dry eye and, by some miracle, no one noticed'. 😅😅😅

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem

      They were probably too wrapped up in themselves to notice the Queen bone dry eyes!

  • @ryancaughill5662
    @ryancaughill5662 Před rokem +282

    This was by far her most important PM. They learned so much together.

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 Před 7 měsíci +24

      We will never know because the monarch's views are never publicly reported merely speculated. Although I do believe the speculation that the Queen and Thatcher didn't get along

    • @daydreamcomedianne
      @daydreamcomedianne Před 6 měsíci +60

      In the series this is the first PM who spoke to her as an equal. He was blunt but took care to choose his words when the situation called for it, he didn't put on any airs, he didn't patronize her. I think she appreciated it. Despite them being polar opposites politically.
      I think she developed compassion through him as well--her growing frustrations with Margaret Thatcher's whole "pull themselves up by the bootstraps" Social Darwinist attitude towards the disadvantaged, working class public, really got to her.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Před 6 měsíci +4

      Wilson was a complete disaster.

    • @user-bu8lw8kd3d
      @user-bu8lw8kd3d Před 6 měsíci

      harold wilson and winston churchill were the queens favorite prime ministers. that’s a fact

    • @LesPaul2006
      @LesPaul2006 Před 4 měsíci +3

      This dude destryed Britain...

  • @tostare
    @tostare Před rokem +196

    They are both so great. This whole series is like a masterclass of acting but I think the scenes with the Queen and Wilson might be the best.

    • @gailhancocks5207
      @gailhancocks5207 Před 10 měsíci

      Both liers though, typical politician and royal

    • @FredrikSkievan
      @FredrikSkievan Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@gailhancocks5207 These are only actors mate, Hence why he's complimenting the acting.

  • @branflakes12341
    @branflakes12341 Před rokem +687

    I've been waiting for ages for this conversation to be uploaded.
    Someone famously said "I can't figure Harold Wilson out" and the other guy said to him "that's because there isn't anything to figure out, what you see is who he is nothing more nothing less"

    • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
      @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven Před rokem +15

      Why your words sounded soo british to me

    • @branflakes12341
      @branflakes12341 Před rokem +20

      @@scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven because I am soo british lol

    • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
      @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven Před rokem +2

      @@branflakes12341 🤣🤣🤣

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem

      In US, we say - there is no there, there.
      She had such patience and was such a phenomenal source of institutional wisdom. To advise, caution, admonish and inquire.
      You are my PM, but I have had 179 starting at the top of the deck, Churchill.
      What do you plan, how will it help?
      Have you seen when X,Y,Z did it and their results?
      You should speak to B, he can help you.

    • @timothydavidcurp
      @timothydavidcurp Před rokem +13

      @@michaelplunkett8059 The problem is, this kind of authenticity is the exact opposite of "there's no there there." The latter is the sign of someone who simply is carried away by the tide of events, their own feelings, or desires. The remark about Wilson - "what you see is who he is " - is about someone who possesses bone-deep integrity that doesn't pose for his own purposes. Even when Wilson is describing how he tries to fit in - he's doing that as part of the burden of leadership, not b/c he wants to lie, but b/c he is trying not to offend. Giving up your own preferences the better to serve - to have the opportunity to serve - is a million miles away from manipulation.

  • @Maclabhruinn
    @Maclabhruinn Před 8 měsíci +55

    Jason Watkins played Wilson perfectly; he brougt so much character and presence to the role. And a pretty accurate portrayal as well.

  • @deelynn8611
    @deelynn8611 Před měsícem +2

    I saw her eyes "well up" just after her sister died, and a worker/resident at a group home asked her how she was doing. it caught her off guard, and must have been hard to take when a strangers genuine care for her at such a time hit home.

  • @timirish2563
    @timirish2563 Před 4 měsíci +20

    This is one of my favorite moments from The Crown. The Wilson character, with blunt eloquence, reminds QE II of just who she is and what her position requires. I sensed a quiet respect, almost a slight affection, between the two characters in the writing and in the actor's exceptional performances. All history should be this humane and compelling.

  • @billchristie2120
    @billchristie2120 Před rokem +104

    When my Father died. I sorted all the proceedings, the house, car, goods selling, etc. 6 months later once it was all done. I left his house, to an unwelcome callout at work, and cried all the way. Theres a time and place for emotion.

    • @michaelplunkett8059
      @michaelplunkett8059 Před rokem +13

      She guarded her emotions after seeing her loony Uncle run amuck.
      She was trained by her granny - Queen Mary.
      Eileen Atkins gave great inside into that role. Fiancé died, husband dead, buried her children, endured a World War and the global depression.
      Mary knew how varied and hard the Queen would face and trained her well. To be resolute and enduring for the nation and still cope with the changing demands of history.

    • @wickedwitchoftheeast88
      @wickedwitchoftheeast88 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@michaelplunkett8059 I agree and Queen Mary was one tough lady just imagine what she lived through in her life time, she was around for Queen Victoria's reign, then Edward VII, her husband George V then her son and granddaughter, WWI & II, the depression, losing her children, husband and finance as you said, she also saw three old monarchies deposed and managed to help prevent the same in Britain her and George V worked hard to win the people and visited everyone and anyone. I bet she was a minefield of wisdom when Elizabeth II ascended the throne and like you pointed out she did her bit to prepare her Queen Mary was all about duty

    • @jthomasmack
      @jthomasmack Před měsícem +1

      Very true but "time and place" is relative to the individual.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +2

      I wonder. I've lost pretty much my entire family including the 2 people I loved most in the world and who were the only two people who ever loved me unconditionally. I couldn't cry then, or for any of them. And it's been 25 years or more. However, I still grieve for them daily. It's as if a big piece of me went with them. I heard it said that tears are a way of melting a heart that is frozen in grief. Perhaps it is that my grief is just too much.

    • @alisoncooper1421
      @alisoncooper1421 Před měsícem

      ​@@retroguy9494My beloved father died in 1999, I have never grieved for him dying, I grieved for nearly two years watching and waiting for him to die,and it was such a relief to see him pain free.
      He is always in my thoughts and I can have a chat with him when times are tough.
      He has three daughters, two of us laugh and talk about him frequently and the third can barely mention his name without crying.
      After 55 years of nursing I advise never to judge how people react to death, the people you think/expect to be strong can crumble and the fragile stand tall.
      Death is inevitable but until the moment arrives no one knows how they will react.

  • @chunder27
    @chunder27 Před rokem +236

    She truly is a magnificent actor, just facial expressions to make a scene, at that she is almost peerless

    • @tomwang3510
      @tomwang3510 Před rokem +1

      no. this is not Harold Wilson I knew!

    • @TheFlowerofSpades
      @TheFlowerofSpades Před rokem +3

      @@tomwang3510 "she" refers to Olivia Colman

    • @tomwang3510
      @tomwang3510 Před rokem +1

      @@TheFlowerofSpades I know, she is also not the Queen I knew.

    • @TheFlowerofSpades
      @TheFlowerofSpades Před rokem +5

      @@tomwang3510 Oh my apology, I don’t know you knew Her Majesty personally

    • @Sir_Typesalot
      @Sir_Typesalot Před rokem +1

      She was told not to? She’s the sovereign.
      “I must? Your must or my must? I tell! I’m not told. I’m the Verb, not the Subject!” - George III

  • @thedukeofswellington1827
    @thedukeofswellington1827 Před rokem +30

    He got Harold Wilsons voice dead on

    • @johnschuh8616
      @johnschuh8616 Před rokem

      In a slightly different key, but yes. Regarding the pipe-cigar incident, John Kennedy liked cigars but he was, to be best of my knowledge never photographed smoking one. Did not fit the image. Remember the portrait with Kennedy posed with a cigar in his mouth, looking all the world like someone from Boston Irish politics. It projected all the qualities that made him successful. But the look was too close to that of his maternal grandfather. Too much like an Irish Catholic with all his vices and virtues. Jackie was pushing the patrician look. One thing I liked about Bobby. He was a mug and he looked it.

  • @OceanHedgehog
    @OceanHedgehog Před rokem +195

    My favorite part about this scene is how Wilson wanted to confirm that that the meetings are confidential, which he had not done in any other serious meeting with the Queen.

    • @ajvanmarle
      @ajvanmarle Před rokem +32

      Setting aside the political consequences if his remarks got leaked, he is also exposing something very private here. Things he has likely never shared before and never will again.

    • @galadinwow
      @galadinwow Před rokem +56

      I think the question was rhetorical. He's not seeking confirmation of the confidentiality, but rather signalling to the Queen that what he is about to say is personal, private, and sincere.

    • @jdsthird
      @jdsthird Před rokem +26

      @@galadinwow And he also reiterated to her that what she shared with him was confidential and would never leave the room. Comforting her in her moment of vulnerability.

    • @BookofGates
      @BookofGates Před 6 měsíci

      🎉❤❤​@@ajvanmarle😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem

      I guess it was more important for him to know that the people would never find out that he liked the finer things in life whilst championing for the common man.

  • @sirql8
    @sirql8 Před 2 měsíci +14

    To 'calm more crisis than we create'....blunting the Queen's self-implosion here, for example. Brilliant acting and that clock ticking in the background makes for a wonderful tension. Best Series ever.

  • @rickardnyberg4899
    @rickardnyberg4899 Před rokem +23

    It is an open secret that she grew to like Wilson, her first labour pm, and they to an extent became friends on a private level. She found out that he was loyal to her, despite many people wanting him not to be - and he learned her a lot about the everyday-life for people outside of the upper class circles..

  • @PaulRoneClarke
    @PaulRoneClarke Před 6 měsíci +12

    Bloody hell!! Now that is acting. It's the silences as much as the dialog. Time to take in the facial expressions and for the viewer to consider the words.
    Lovely to watch.

  • @danielw5850
    @danielw5850 Před rokem +32

    This episode, featuring the Aberfan disaster, was my favourite: Jason Watkins (who'd lost a young daughter himself) clearly played-out the grief that engulfed the nation.

    • @doody244
      @doody244 Před rokem +3

      Thanks for sharing that about Jason. My family knows that loss too. My brother passed away at 34 a little over a year ago. He was healthy and it happened just like that.

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 Před rokem +165

    I really like this scene. He makes great points.

  • @antmagor
    @antmagor Před rokem +66

    I’ve always gotten the impression that there was a uniqueness to each relationship she had with each Prime Minister. With Churchhill it was a father figure. With Mrs. Thatcher it was Something of an adversary. With Mr. Major It was a friend who provided consistency at an inconsistent time.But with Mr. Winslow I think it’s something particularly extraordinary. With him I think it was a A confidant. Somebody who was able to empathize with her burdens in a way the others hadn’t, and I think that’s probably why they’re working relationship was so harmonious. He had a unique insight as to what it was like to separate duty from feeling and how lonely it could be at times. It was probably nice do I have a Head of government with whom she could be so candid in that regard.

    • @joaquinescotoaleman4320
      @joaquinescotoaleman4320 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The predecessor of Willson, who was merely mention in The Crown was actually a friend of the Royal Family before he became a PM. Regarding Thatcher I think their relationship was like the one she has with her sister Margaret, both were females (so no chilvary here unlike the rest of PM) and had the same age, so they eventually will collide when they disagree, but somehow they deeply respect each other.

    • @irkhanbasc
      @irkhanbasc Před 9 měsíci +9

      There is a later episode of the series in which Prince Charles is having a conversation with Tony Blair around the time that Blair became Prime Minister in the 1990s. The Prince described the relationship between the Queen and successive PMs as follows. Winston Churchill was like a grandfather to her. Anthony Eden and Harold Macmilllan were like father figures. Harold Wilson and Edward Heath were like brothers. Margaret Thatcher could have been her twin sister. And finally, Tony Blair would be like a son to her. Indeed, part of the reason that Prince Charles and Tony Blair had such a good rapport with each other is that they were of the same generation.

  • @marikaelborn
    @marikaelborn Před 3 měsíci +14

    It is great that the crown gives Harold wilson the credit he deserves

    • @davidwhite9625
      @davidwhite9625 Před měsícem

      Only a liberal writer would give a liberal PM faux credit. He almost destroyed the country.

  • @paulines581
    @paulines581 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Scene perfection. A head who knew her population well, both at home and abroad. Calm more crises than, we create. Brilliant.

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 Před rokem +23

    No dramatic music just two great actors in this powerful scene.
    The Crown is a great show.

  • @jeff_n1535
    @jeff_n1535 Před 7 měsíci +9

    This scene, is pure class..

    • @jeff_n1535
      @jeff_n1535 Před 5 měsíci

      PS. While other actresses played the late ER II with aplomb, Clair Foye's return to kerp the role, I feel, has somehow improved the show.

  • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven

    At most occasions the Crown makes you feel that you are a single person peaking into reality not as an observer but a part of the play

  • @deeg8849
    @deeg8849 Před 2 měsíci +4

    When we meet people like this in our lives, those who we may not agree with entirely, but appreciate for their honest, unbiased opinion - you must respect them. I can see why the Queen liked PM Wilson so much

  • @meiray
    @meiray Před rokem +88

    I was hoping Peter Morgan would delve into just how much these two liked one another. He invented some wonderful little things they bonded over in his play, "The Audience," like his little OCD tendencies which she could relate to.

  • @jolietkate
    @jolietkate Před rokem +75

    This scene is by far and away the best in The Crown and I'd argue one of the best scenes in any Netfix original show.

  • @johnblackington2210
    @johnblackington2210 Před rokem +9

    the power of reflection and pausing in conversations is powerful.

  • @DJSean00
    @DJSean00 Před rokem +171

    This scene alone is better than the entirety of Season 5

  • @peterfcoyle9127
    @peterfcoyle9127 Před rokem +19

    Both actors were phenomenal. Bravo!

  • @ivanahavitoff7308
    @ivanahavitoff7308 Před rokem +30

    There were teary eyes during GSTQ at the Jubilee. her last appearance near enough in public. I saw that as a thank you I can go now.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem

      Personally, I think she lost the will to go on when old Phil died. She REALLY went downhill after that. This is not uncommon with people who were married as long as they were and counted on each other for support most of their lives.

  • @michaelmuldowney8
    @michaelmuldowney8 Před rokem +21

    A joy to watch these actors are work.

  • @kimwears5050
    @kimwears5050 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Jason Watkins is a phenomenal actor, alongside our brilliant Olivia Coleman they made brilliant TV

  • @daniadejonghe4980
    @daniadejonghe4980 Před rokem +8

    She is one formidable actor.

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Great scene, even if I simply cannot imagine Elizabeth holding a frank conversation about her lack of emotional responses with any PM, especially Wilson.

  • @zacmumblethunder7466
    @zacmumblethunder7466 Před rokem +192

    The Queen wanted to go to Aberfan straight away. She was asked to stay away as her visit would attract sightseers and even more journalists and photographers. It took quite a while to retrieve all the bodies and the rescuers didn't need crowds of gawkers.
    The Duke of Edinburgh was on an official visit in the area and wanted to join in the digging, but was asked not to for the same reason. This was the basis of a scene in the drama "To Play the King", sequel to the original British "House of Cards".
    Anyone who saw coverage of the 50th anniversary of the disaster will know of the close bond between the people of Aberfan and the Queen.

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man Před rokem +29

      She visited Aberfan several times very very quietly and the media only found out when she was there

    • @ClaudeS39
      @ClaudeS39 Před rokem +12

      She actually didn’t want to go. She was told to go.

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man Před rokem +26

      @@ClaudeS39 WRONG! She wanted to go but was advised not to, was persuaded that if she went she would be the centre of attention and her presence would hinder the recovery operation.

    • @OnLifeandLove
      @OnLifeandLove Před rokem +7

      so the show twisted the facts again🤣

    • @Volcano-Man
      @Volcano-Man Před rokem +5

      @@OnLifeandLove Well in its own words '... It is not a documentary, but based upon known facts and hypothetical discussions ...'. Draw your own conclusions.

  • @petersyme7083
    @petersyme7083 Před rokem +14

    Harold Wilson was a good Prime Minister. His greatest action was to continually refuse to send troops to Vietnam. President Johnson pleaded over and over again to Wilson for troops even offering to cancel the payments the UK were sending to pay off debts from WII.

    • @hachwarwickshire292
      @hachwarwickshire292 Před 11 měsíci

      We were fighting two or three other wars at the time. Oman, Indonesia ect. Most were successful.

    • @zeinmets3550
      @zeinmets3550 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@hachwarwickshire292 Andrew Gilchrist's name was used to facilitate the deaths of over 3 million people. That's what most of the people here do not know

  • @vdoggydogg3922
    @vdoggydogg3922 Před 7 měsíci +9

    The actor playing wilson does an amazing job in this series.

  • @SceneArtisan
    @SceneArtisan Před 2 měsíci +2

    I actually met and chatted to Harold Wilson outside his house in the early 1980s. He was a nice, well-spoken and sensitive man.

  • @PM.68
    @PM.68 Před rokem +10

    You can have sentiments or feelibgs without being overwhelmed by emotions.

  • @NorthAmericanDemocracy
    @NorthAmericanDemocracy Před 2 měsíci +3

    Brilliant perfirmance by both!!👏👏👏

  • @Rob-Benny-Hill
    @Rob-Benny-Hill Před 11 měsíci +13

    Our queen, god rest her soul, met and talked with many PMs. I have no doubt at all that this is what may have taken place. Loved watching the crown. Gave me an insight into a world I will never experience. It made me feel like I was a witness to history. Two great actors here, bravo Crown.

  • @stevouk
    @stevouk Před rokem +19

    Once you get beyond the fact that this is pure fantasy, and is pretty much a parallel universe version of events where people simply discuss historical narratives, it really gets quite entertaining.

  • @seantitus2769
    @seantitus2769 Před rokem +7

    Definitely an important scene. And it must be said, it's a reality about the requirements of the monarchy that Diana didn't quite grasp (as much as the whole world loved her). A ceremonial head of state (whether a constitutional monarch like in the UK or Denmark... or a ceremonial president like in Ireland or Germany) is not there to show human emotional connection, but to be a staid symbol of the nation. In a monarchy, the rest of the royal family is there purely to support the Crown, not to be their own voice bleating about their emotional responses to the world and to life (something Harry and Meghan don't quite grasp).

    • @vangroover1903
      @vangroover1903 Před rokem

      A lot of better people despised Princess Die-ana for her self-indulgence and mawkish simpiness, which was exactly the attraction for the worshipful failure classes. A lack of self-discipline and foresight is remarkably uniform amongst the lower orders throughout the animal kingdom.

  • @BobG-pi8bb
    @BobG-pi8bb Před měsícem +1

    I’m not sure this conversation ever happened but these conversations show the growth in the relationship between Wilson and the Queen. They grew to genuinely like one another. A little tear formed when he invited her and philip to dinner with his wife at the end of his premiership. They became friends.

  • @zinussan50
    @zinussan50 Před rokem +37

    One of rare moment, the Queen didn't use the "goodbye bell" when the meeting is over.

    • @2e1r3s2
      @2e1r3s2 Před rokem +6

      Wasn't an official audience so no bell , just the Queen asking advice from her P.M.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +1

      There is a bell she rang when she wanted a meeting to be over?

    • @zinussan50
      @zinussan50 Před měsícem

      @@retroguy9494 yes.

    • @retroguy9494
      @retroguy9494 Před měsícem +1

      @@zinussan50 Wow I just learned something! Thanks!

    • @zinussan50
      @zinussan50 Před měsícem

      @@retroguy9494 if you follow the series, from season 1 until 5, most every single meeting, the queen rang the bell when it's ended.

  • @larrycopeland2413
    @larrycopeland2413 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I've watched just this scene probably 5 or 6 times now, if for no other reason, because of the superb acting of both actors. Bravo.

  • @ModestNeophyte
    @ModestNeophyte Před 7 měsíci +3

    this is such a touching exchange

  • @jtidema
    @jtidema Před rokem +7

    Olivia Coleman. Wonderful as always.

  • @curtyeomans8446
    @curtyeomans8446 Před 4 měsíci +3

    I’ll bet this was one of those scenes where they were broadcasting shipping forecasts into Olivia Coleman’s ear so she’d appear serious in the scene (she did say that was a thing they’d do so rather than listening to the other actors, she was paying attention to the shipping forecasts because she otherwise had trouble keeping a serious face)

  • @alimsylla5367
    @alimsylla5367 Před 9 měsíci +3

    No one needs hysteria from a Head of State.

  • @gadfageyar
    @gadfageyar Před 10 měsíci +5

    Not everyone is a crier. Doesn't mean we don't feel. Some of us like to stay in control.

  • @minimaxi802
    @minimaxi802 Před rokem +11

    Jason Watkins is the actor who plays Harold Wilson and was born on October 28, 1966 that was a week after the Aberfan disaster.

  • @knightridernz72
    @knightridernz72 Před měsícem +1

    Great well-crafted scene. The writing, editing, acting and directing.

  • @ThisIsNotAhnJieRen
    @ThisIsNotAhnJieRen Před rokem +5

    I took me a two weeks before I cried when my mother died. I went to full on crisis mode. When she died in the hospital and I had to arrange everything for her wake. Everything just became a checklist until the funeral. It didn't hit me that I lost my mother until days later.

  • @kenoliver8913
    @kenoliver8913 Před rokem +46

    A superb piece of acting made possible by a superb script. In this series the script was always superb, but this scene is a little out of the ordinary because of the guy playing Wilson.

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 Před rokem +12

    I've read several books about Winston Churchill lately and was surprised to learn that Churchill was famous for his crying at the drop of a hat- especially in public. Even music could trigger it. Some people just cry easier than others- it doesn't mean anything at all. And The Crown is a great show- especially the first 2-4 seasons.

    • @donaldcake1
      @donaldcake1 Před 10 měsíci

      dependng on where his military service was, and when that happened could be ptsd

    • @kindnessfirst9670
      @kindnessfirst9670 Před 10 měsíci

      @@donaldcake1 Possibly, but I doubt it. He seemed to have been happiest when doing one of two things: painting and being in physical danger. The only thing that kept him from participating in the D Day invasion was an order from the King. He was just a person who would become emotional very easily and it often would bring him to tears. It happened to help him politically. Different time and place.

  • @addarsulawal
    @addarsulawal Před 3 měsíci +2

    "we barely need humanity", he said. what was left unspoken and hung in the air was, "of which you show no more than needed". it sounds like an indictment. but E2R did have humanity, the whole series shows us exactly that, her humanity beating there under the concrete outer lawyer of protocol, weighed down by the crown, yet still alive.

  • @scott6828
    @scott6828 Před 7 měsíci +2

    He's absolutely spot on. Everything he said was true. Great advice

  • @ianross806
    @ianross806 Před rokem +4

    "Our job is to calm more crises than we create."

  • @shubhuful
    @shubhuful Před rokem +7

    Brits are really Great Artists... When I saw him as PM, I was like OMG it's Cabbage Patterson from Candleford! He did such a Fantastic Job as PM Wilson.. I loved all the scenes involving Queen n PM ❤

  • @barbarjinks8170
    @barbarjinks8170 Před rokem +11

    He basically told the queen to give ‘em the ole razzle dazzle, razzle dazzle em.

  • @robnyer8427
    @robnyer8427 Před 4 měsíci +2

    PM Wilson is often referred to as the queens second favorite PM behind only Churchill. They had by all accounts a very stable, respectful, honest, and thoroughly understanding relationship. This scene shows how good government can work when leaders can be respect of each other. It also shows the truth as to why Wilson was among her favorite PM. Colman is a legend without question and Watkins is impeccable.

  • @isabellemyzer1807
    @isabellemyzer1807 Před rokem +257

    Theres no way the queen was actually that emotionless. It makes her look like a sociopath or something...but I would agree that there was a major lack of bonding between her and Charles and it created some psychological problems and kind of had this domino effect.

    • @lordalessan
      @lordalessan Před rokem +52

      Yeah, I hated it when people blame the fact that she had to balance being queen and being a mother, which makes her feelings towards Charles justified. Duty never stopped her own father for being loving towards them. At least she acknowledged her shortcomings with Charles though.

    • @raybinas953
      @raybinas953 Před rokem +13

      Agree, she's a great queen no doubt about that but as a caring mother to charles in particular, i feel like she has not done a good job

    • @lordwalker71
      @lordwalker71 Před rokem +18

      She basically missed the first couple years of Charles life because she went on tour after he was born.

    • @benlowe1701
      @benlowe1701 Před rokem

      I mean... have you *seen* the royal family? Most of them are nutcases - or worse. I shouldn't be surprised at all if some of them were sociopaths.

    • @shimanopetermann9068
      @shimanopetermann9068 Před rokem +50

      @Lord Walker But that's not because she was emotionless. That's because she's been taught that it was normal. Generations of English upper class children have been raised primarily by their nannies. Some only saw their parents like once or twice a week. If you and everyone you know have been raised like that, you'll think that's how it's normally done, and you'll repeat it with your own children.

  • @vintagecherries
    @vintagecherries Před 3 měsíci +2

    I love the clock ticking in the background

  • @batzkalol
    @batzkalol Před rokem +68

    Harold Wilson looks so scared of her all the time. Even when he hasn't done anything.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 Před rokem +8

      The real Harold could outsmart anyone

    • @alcuinofyork6845
      @alcuinofyork6845 Před rokem +6

      @@stephenchappell7512 Completely agree... This 'drama' here is ahistoric and a fabrication of the the truth. For starters Wilson had informed the Queen of his intention to quit as leader of the Labour party and PM when he was 60 upon entering office for a second stint in 1974 - he did so in March 1976, which presumably is what this scene is about (I haven't watched any of this these) - so all the complaining by the Queen about Eden giving her time etc is all guff. Wilson knew he was going as he had dementia and was tired, beating Heath and getting back into No 10 was enough. All of Wilson's special advisors have published their memoirs and so this is a matter of record, although no doubt there will be some of a conspiratorial nature who will seek to use this to platform to discredit these established facts. Wilson was a past master at what we call now 'public relations'. Undoubtedly, not a successful PM but that conclusion belies his skill and dexterity. I'm not complaining at the scene here as it's merely entertainment, but it's widely known that Wilson was something of a favourite of the Queen's - she would NEVER have spoken to him or any democratically elected leader as she did here as that would have been beneath her. It's widely known, for example, that she disagreed vigorously with Mrs Thatcher's policy towards the Commonwealth but never openly spoke of it as that would have been in contravention of her duties. Paradoxically, she got on better with Labour PMs than Tory ones. Don't read too much into this, as reality is much further from the stage performance here.

    • @stephenchappell7512
      @stephenchappell7512 Před rokem

      @@alcuinofyork6845
      Being only a young child at the time of
      these events (born 68) this is all slightly
      before my time but looking at him in
      archive interviews (and even Morecambe
      & Wise sketches) shows that he was a
      man who possessed a very high intellect

    • @garethjones7677
      @garethjones7677 Před rokem +1

      @@alcuinofyork6845 This scene is post Aberfan, 1966.

    • @themottoist5659
      @themottoist5659 Před rokem

      @@garethjones7677 thanks for the reminder of the date. So the comments about his intention to resign puzzled me, as that happened much later than this scene.

  • @edsr164
    @edsr164 Před rokem +6

    They cast superb actresses for Queen!

  • @zaidaziz2019
    @zaidaziz2019 Před rokem +3

    my favorite scene of the whole series so much insight into leadership.

  • @raykaelin
    @raykaelin Před rokem +37

    That was absolutely and profoundly wonderful and wonderfully done!

  • @Kythlo
    @Kythlo Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is one of my favourite Harold Wilson scenes

  • @huascar66
    @huascar66 Před 11 měsíci +8

    This is one of my most favorite scenes from The Crown. Brilliantly acted.

  • @aravinz_hd
    @aravinz_hd Před 10 měsíci +2

    The absence of background noice enhances this scene so much

  • @crlewis
    @crlewis Před rokem +5

    She was the rock the nation needed in the changing times of the 20th century

  • @robertofranciscor.beltran5588

    Best scene in The Crown IMO.

  • @mohammedomar4652
    @mohammedomar4652 Před 10 měsíci +2

    oivia coleman is just superb... what a treasure

  • @joshuakampamba9061
    @joshuakampamba9061 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Olivia the great. That's what I call her. ❤❤❤I love the way she acts with so much humor

  • @dotnb
    @dotnb Před 5 měsíci +2

    That was epic! I think i am going to watch the whole series now.

  • @Ericbryanmr
    @Ericbryanmr Před rokem +26

    "Noone needs hysteria from a head of state"
    Cuts to king charles losing it over a pen.

    • @shannonmichuda5177
      @shannonmichuda5177 Před 8 měsíci +2

      No one needs hysteria till they lose the head of state and then become the head of state

  • @beverlyhills7883
    @beverlyhills7883 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Fine acting

  • @jlizamavera
    @jlizamavera Před rokem +5

    Superb performances and great television indeed.😊❤ First 4 seasons are all good in my view, no matter if is a lot of fiction and writers' imagination in those dialogues.

  • @cavaliermama56
    @cavaliermama56 Před rokem +2

    These two were extraordinary.

  • @brianocallaghan7172
    @brianocallaghan7172 Před 6 měsíci +1

    apparently even with reservations the queen became very fond of this premier for his fortright and direct approach to matters of state chateaubriaund notwithstanding

  • @squestel8404
    @squestel8404 Před 5 měsíci +1

    She was my favorite as the queen. Like her alot.

  • @TheGreenManFJ
    @TheGreenManFJ Před 6 měsíci +3

    A most unlikely conversation

  • @lancechinnian4043
    @lancechinnian4043 Před rokem +6

    Love this scene!

  • @CorvoFG
    @CorvoFG Před 6 měsíci +1

    Sometimes, you can be taught to be so stoic that you find it hard to be anything else.

  • @NPA1001
    @NPA1001 Před 11 měsíci +1

    In all her long Life Queen Elizabeth only attended 2 farewell dinners for two of her leaving Prime Ministers… Winstone Churchill and Harold Wilson.. that shows how much she respected Wilson.

  • @user-en6bq5fo4w
    @user-en6bq5fo4w Před 3 měsíci +1

    ooh I miss our queen

  • @Ratboy2004
    @Ratboy2004 Před rokem +1

    They form a bond on this day.

  • @Ed9870
    @Ed9870 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You can see why The Queen and Mr. Wilson came to be so close after a rocky start.

  • @actaemazantor9558
    @actaemazantor9558 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This was exactly why she was a great leader, because she lacked the emotions that characterize women more than men, she was a singularity who made virtue of her deficiency.